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... m Canada. That name seems French. Maybe from Quebec. Um, creative creatives hearts or creative sarts or creative shorts. I don't know how to say it. Please have a former MAGA on the show. Okay, we'll try to get that done. >> Yes. >> The G5512. Thank you very much. Um, Mark Tessendor, I'm starting to wonder how necessary Bob is in the necessar ...

... I do get some of the stuff he believes. He believes a little bit of what we believe, too. >> Okay. Um, why are we allowing this? Says, "Serious question. As someone with MAGA in-laws, how can I trust them with my baby? If they make excuses for Trump and Epstein, their moral compass is skewed." >> I mean, I wish Haley was on here to talk about ...

... or another. Trust you with her babies. Um, I don't know. I mean, it's like >> that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. >> That's ridiculous question. >> Just because we're MAGA, we don't love our grandb babies 100%. >> My question basically implies that because you're MAGA, you are supporting a pedophile. Multiple at this point any pedophile. N ...

... That's ridiculous. >> That's ridiculous question. >> Just because we're MAGA, we don't love our grandb babies 100%. >> My question basically implies that because you're MAGA, you are supporting a pedophile. Multiple at this point any pedophile. Never will, never have. >> Okay. But MAGA, your political movement is protecting pedophiles like o ...

... 0%. >> My question basically implies that because you're MAGA, you are supporting a pedophile. Multiple at this point any pedophile. Never will, never have. >> Okay. But MAGA, your political movement is protecting pedophiles like out in the open. clearly doing it. >> No, they're not, Chad. They want those people that have done this to go to j ...

... ecting pedophiles like out in the open. clearly doing it. >> No, they're not, Chad. They want those people that have done this to go to jail. >> No, Pam Bondi, the whole MAGA movement within the White House is withholding three million of the Epstein files. They are never going to release them. They are hiding >> horrible acts that these pedo ...

... t they're insinuating that they wouldn't let their in-laws be with their grandbabies. That's ridiculous. >> If you are, >> if you feel that way, then don't. >> If you're MAGA, >> so is Pam Bondi. She's part of the MAGA movement. She's part of his Okay. Huh? >> Not I'm not her. >> You're not her. But I'm saying that's what MAGA is doing right ...

... their in-laws be with their grandbabies. That's ridiculous. >> If you are, >> if you feel that way, then don't. >> If you're MAGA, >> so is Pam Bondi. She's part of the MAGA movement. She's part of his Okay. Huh? >> Not I'm not her. >> You're not her. But I'm saying that's what MAGA is doing right now. They are protecting pedophiles. That's ...

... t. >> If you're MAGA, >> so is Pam Bondi. She's part of the MAGA movement. She's part of his Okay. Huh? >> Not I'm not her. >> You're not her. But I'm saying that's what MAGA is doing right now. They are protecting pedophiles. That's part of their political strategy. >> If you support MAGA, >> if you're MAGA, you are. That's what you're suppo ...

... ot her. >> You're not her. But I'm saying that's what MAGA is doing right now. They are protecting pedophiles. That's part of their political strategy. >> If you support MAGA, >> if you're MAGA, you are. That's what you're supporting. >> I don't support everything they do. And that is one thing I don't. They need to all go. >> Maybe if you sa ...

... ot her. But I'm saying that's what MAGA is doing right now. They are protecting pedophiles. That's part of their political strategy. >> If you support MAGA, >> if you're MAGA, you are. That's what you're supporting. >> I don't support everything they do. And that is one thing I don't. They need to all go. >> Maybe if you say you don't support ...

... hat's what you're supporting. >> I don't support everything they do. And that is one thing I don't. They need to all go. >> Maybe if you say you don't support everything MAGA does, >> it might be possible that you're not MAGA. >> I am MAGA. Well, I'm Mega. >> Okay, we'll see. >> Okay. >> Um, Mark Tessor, now I know you're a Demir player. I pi ...

... erything they do. And that is one thing I don't. They need to all go. >> Maybe if you say you don't support everything MAGA does, >> it might be possible that you're not MAGA. >> I am MAGA. Well, I'm Mega. >> Okay, we'll see. >> Okay. >> Um, Mark Tessor, now I know you're a Demir player. I picked up a troll or sorry, a talks reel because who ...

... do. And that is one thing I don't. They need to all go. >> Maybe if you say you don't support everything MAGA does, >> it might be possible that you're not MAGA. >> I am MAGA. Well, I'm Mega. >> Okay, we'll see. >> Okay. >> Um, Mark Tessor, now I know you're a Demir player. I picked up a troll or sorry, a talks reel because who needs friends ...

... here are plenty of old men who talk and they don't say the [ __ ] dad says. >> But that idea of like this hardcore violent rhetoric which is ubiquitous I think in modern MAGA. You've got even just like take something like P Pet Path changing the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War, >> right? >> That is a hostile aggress ...

... eah. >> All right. Um, this is from JPL 60664. Mary Lou, how do you reconcile the fact that the majority of free world see that our democracy is in jeopardy, but you and MAGA refuse to see it? >> Again, I don't see it that way. I don't I just don't see it that way. But when you when you see things like this where you know like today we had a ...

... fferent than you do. >> Uh, no. I think you're actually extremely trustworthy because I know exactly how you think about everything because it's only through the lens of MAGA. I can predict what you will say virtually about any question asked. Same with dad. I can predict what your behaviors will be in response to uh events that may occur in ...

... me down the way you lead me down, too. >> I'm not trying to lead you down anything. I'm I'm trying to get you to I think you already are kind of like having a break with MAGA and a break with Trump. you just are unwilling to let go of the identity piece of it that you are MAGA. And by saying I don't support Trump anymore or I'm not MAGA, that ...

... et you to I think you already are kind of like having a break with MAGA and a break with Trump. you just are unwilling to let go of the identity piece of it that you are MAGA. And by saying I don't support Trump anymore or I'm not MAGA, that has basically become your identity for the past 10 years or whatever, you and dad. But you're like you ...

... with MAGA and a break with Trump. you just are unwilling to let go of the identity piece of it that you are MAGA. And by saying I don't support Trump anymore or I'm not MAGA, that has basically become your identity for the past 10 years or whatever, you and dad. But you're like you're you're basically saying like I don't believe in MAGA, but ...

... not MAGA, that has basically become your identity for the past 10 years or whatever, you and dad. But you're like you're you're basically saying like I don't believe in MAGA, but I am MAGA. And I'm just trying to get you to see that like it's okay to not be MAGA. You can still be hardcore Republican. you can still vote, you know, all Republi ...

... has basically become your identity for the past 10 years or whatever, you and dad. But you're like you're you're basically saying like I don't believe in MAGA, but I am MAGA. And I'm just trying to get you to see that like it's okay to not be MAGA. You can still be hardcore Republican. you can still vote, you know, all Republicans up and dow ...

... and dad. But you're like you're you're basically saying like I don't believe in MAGA, but I am MAGA. And I'm just trying to get you to see that like it's okay to not be MAGA. You can still be hardcore Republican. you can still vote, you know, all Republicans up and down the ticket and stuff, but you're increasingly disagreeing with a lot of ...

... singly disagreeing with a lot of what Trump is saying and doing. And I and I think you just need like a little bit of help understanding like it's totally cool to not be MAGA and you can still be again super red state Republican and just not MAGA which I think you kind of already are and you're just you're not quite at the point where you can ...

... nd I think you just need like a little bit of help understanding like it's totally cool to not be MAGA and you can still be again super red state Republican and just not MAGA which I think you kind of already are and you're just you're not quite at the point where you can um you know like shrug off the mantle. >> Time will tell. >> Time will ...

... at grandma who did get sentenced after January 6th and saying she refused the pardon. That moment was like impactful, I think, because it shows somebody who is like, I'm MAGA through and through, but this is wrong. It shows that that person had a line where it's like, we shouldn't be pardoned. What we did was wrong. And I think similarly to y ...

... pardoned. What we did was wrong. And I think similarly to you, you know, we have some kind of an audience on this show and I think showing examples of people leaving the MAGA cult and like how they finally got there. I think that's massively important for what it's worth. >> Okay. >> All right. Desiree Mcome Mary Lou, you bring up Joe Biden a ...

... he's on the show, though. He pisses me off. He reminds me of my grandpa. Uh, I don't know. You know, I go back and forth on this. I think he is in many ways lost to the MAGA identity, but I will say this, just in my own experiences, we already were kind of talking about some spirituality [ __ ] here. I do think it is possible for any person ...

... in. And Epstein is the least of my reasons. Marylu love you and Bob too. Pretty sure we're cut from the same cloth. There you go. So there's somebody who came out of the MAGA cult. It's okay. >> But he's saying that Epstein is the least of >> Exactly. He's not voting for Trump for all of the other [ __ ] that has >> piled up. >> Wonder where ...

... oma. Maybe I'll reach out to her. I know exactly who she is now. >> I know who she is. >> Okay. >> I don't care for her. >> No [ __ ] Britney Carrillas Parker used to be MAGA. Oh, really? I didn't [ __ ] know that. I'm not sure if that was ever brought up. He flipped after January 6th. I had no idea. Wait, Dean Wither's like that, too. I thin ...

... ] know that. I'm not sure if that was ever brought up. He flipped after January 6th. I had no idea. Wait, Dean Wither's like that, too. I think they both might be former MAGA. >> Wow. I didn't know that either. He sure didn't act like it. >> Yeah. Sit Alex T. It is kind of endearing how much Bob and Mary Lou has despite being on completely op ...

... ends of the spectrum politically. I agree. It's pretty funny. Ben Par. He was kind to us. >> Yeah, I know. AC and Mary Lou Chad, earlier today I had an argument with my MAGA family. They are hardcore cult MAGA. I find it very difficult to have a mature conversation with them. Any tips from the pro. Thanks once again. Start that podcast. I th ...

... agree. It's pretty funny. Ben Par. He was kind to us. >> Yeah, I know. AC and Mary Lou Chad, earlier today I had an argument with my MAGA family. They are hardcore cult MAGA. I find it very difficult to have a mature conversation with them. Any tips from the pro. Thanks once again. Start that podcast. I think and I'm not saying like you shou ...

... tch that Lakers playoff game as soon as we get done here. They better win. They're going to go 4-0. Get that sweep. Thunder. Um they're not playing the Thunder. JPL6064, MAGA says those who despise Trump have Trump Derangement Syndrome. You're Mary Lou, Bob, and the disgusting MAGA regime have Trump Devotion Syndrome. Nice one. Stop being a b ...

... sweep. Thunder. Um they're not playing the Thunder. JPL6064, MAGA says those who despise Trump have Trump Derangement Syndrome. You're Mary Lou, Bob, and the disgusting MAGA regime have Trump Devotion Syndrome. Nice one. Stop being a bull-headed boomer. Hm. TDS. The Let A Moo, Mary Lou, if Chad told you he just grabs women sexually because h ...

... to war with them. Yes. I didn't want to go to war with them anyway. Anytime. Okay. Greg Kinnear speaks in third person. What's with Mary Lou's sudden backpedal? I'm not MAGA, I'm a Repub. Fool, we have the receipts. >> [laughter] >> I've always been a Republican. And it's not That MAGA thing is the label that you guys have given me. You wear ...

... person. What's with Mary Lou's sudden backpedal? I'm not MAGA, I'm a Repub. Fool, we have the receipts. >> [laughter] >> I've always been a Republican. And it's not That MAGA thing is the label that you guys have given me. You wear the hat of Trump. You wear [ __ ] that says that's MAGA. Yeah, if you blindly devote yourself to Donald Trump, y ...

... ter] >> I've always been a Republican. And it's not That MAGA thing is the label that you guys have given me. You wear the hat of Trump. You wear [ __ ] that says that's MAGA. Yeah, if you blindly devote yourself to Donald Trump, you're MAGA. So, are you saying right now that you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not ...

... is the label that you guys have given me. You wear the hat of Trump. You wear [ __ ] that says that's MAGA. Yeah, if you blindly devote yourself to Donald Trump, you're MAGA. So, are you saying right now that you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that ...

... at says that's MAGA. Yeah, if you blindly devote yourself to Donald Trump, you're MAGA. So, are you saying right now that you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA ...

... Yeah, if you blindly devote yourself to Donald Trump, you're MAGA. So, are you saying right now that you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You' ...

... yourself to Donald Trump, you're MAGA. So, are you saying right now that you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But ...

... at you do not, like you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAG ...

... ke you're No, we're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I ...

... e're not. Denounce MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like th ...

... MAGA. If you're not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never ...

... e not MAGA, denounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. ...

... enounce it. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. You guys are ...

... t. Denounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. You guys are the ones ...

... ounce MAGA. I believe I'm a Republican that loves our president. >> Denounce MAGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. You guys are the ones that ...

... AGA. >> is that MAGA? Then I'm MAGA. And it's not MAGA. You are MAGA. You're MAGA. >> MAGA. MAGA. But also, might I point out, it is okay to change your mind. You can be MAGA and then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. You guys are the ones that labeled me. I'm a strong Republican that loves our president, whatever that is ...

... nd then, no, I'm not. Like that's okay. I never thought I was. You guys are the ones that labeled me. I'm a strong Republican that loves our president, whatever that is. MAGA. You just need to not love the president cuz he's a heinous piece of [ __ ] >> And you don't love the president. That That part of this whole show >> parts of him I do l ...

... nes that have been uh put in the queue here. But we can receive no more. Thank you very much. Next up, Steven Armstrong, 1013. Hey, cultured family. Showing my love from MAGA City, Amarillo. Mhm. >> still live in Amarillo? We love Amarillo. Amarillo by morning up from San Antone. Da da da da da da da da Lord, it's just what I got on. That's t ...

... are being grifted. That it is possible to come out of it and you're starting to see more and more of that. There are more like influencers and stuff coming out who were MAGA and now they're not. And they're talking to people about it and all that kind of [ __ ] It's a movement. Getting out of MAGA, leaving the MAGA cult is a movement. You ca ...

... ke influencers and stuff coming out who were MAGA and now they're not. And they're talking to people about it and all that kind of [ __ ] It's a movement. Getting out of MAGA, leaving the MAGA cult is a movement. You can be a part of it. I I did look at our silver plaque again. I did have tears. >> [laughter] >> And you know what? I am I'm go ...

... stuff coming out who were MAGA and now they're not. And they're talking to people about it and all that kind of [ __ ] It's a movement. Getting out of MAGA, leaving the MAGA cult is a movement. You can be a part of it. I I did look at our silver plaque again. I did have tears. >> [laughter] >> And you know what? I am I'm going to frame it. O ...

... she gave it to him. Remember? She got it, he didn't and she goes, "Here, you can have it." Cuz he was being a baby about it. Okay. Susanna Costello 8106 Watching all the MAGA men bar Stephen Miller ditch their wives during the evacuation. Very traditional values. Miller probably just knows this is his only option cuz no one else wants him. Ye ...

... hile Biden was in office? We have asked that same question multiple times on this podcast through various episodes. Never has a good answer. Boondock Shiner, Mary Lou is MAGA and Bob is the devil. >> [laughter] >> The photo is uh Michelle Obama hugging Dad. That's a nice one, yeah, I like that. Miss Olivia Page, Hi Culture Family, I love your ...

... r questions. Lies. Did other people just like throw these in quickly in these last few seconds? Maybe, I don't know. D Mooney California 324, Mary Lou, you call yourself MAGA all the time, you have said so in previous pods. I can find it. You're right. You're right. Yeah, she's very MAGA and now she's trying to do this thing where it's like, ...

... w. D Mooney California 324, Mary Lou, you call yourself MAGA all the time, you have said so in previous pods. I can find it. You're right. You're right. Yeah, she's very MAGA and now she's trying to do this thing where it's like, I'm not MAGA, but that's fine. Like that's what we want. We want her to start backstepping away from this and that ...

... time, you have said so in previous pods. I can find it. You're right. You're right. Yeah, she's very MAGA and now she's trying to do this thing where it's like, I'm not MAGA, but that's fine. Like that's what we want. We want her to start backstepping away from this and that's fine. I think we should give her that space, not be like, [ __ ] ...

... that's what we want. We want her to start backstepping away from this and that's fine. I think we should give her that space, not be like, [ __ ] you, you said you were MAGA. Okay, you're just Republican now, that's cool. Take off the Trump hat. Go get that Trump tattoo lasered off. Karen the Ginger, thank you very much. Day is love. Haley, ...

... s, like as much as we're saying, you know, there's toxicity and stuff in our childhood and and dad was mean and all of this. True, all of that true. I do think in in the MAGA years, those people do not They are not our parents. >> Mhm. >> They're not even like exacerbated versions of them. They literally have become different people. The brai ...

... f if I have to fight or flight, I'm going to fight. >> Damn. All right. Well, good luck in your fight. Let me ask you this about Comey. Do you think that um do you think MAGA voters want to see Comey go to jail by any means necessary? >> Yes. Yes, they're like you know that mom and dad, maybe just dad now, probably mom on this on this issue, ...

... hat mom and dad, maybe just dad now, probably mom on this on this issue, but they think that Trump was wronged somehow and that all these people need to pay for it. 100% MAGA wants them all in prison. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> And they'd rather see that than like we go after the [ __ ] obscene files, which is insane. >> You don't think there's some el ...

... er charge in my opinion. A Instagram post of seashells? Like how snowflakey does it have to get, you know? >> Yeah, that's true. I don't know. >> I think the the average MAGA voter might be looking at what's happening with this Comey indictment and being like, come on, turn the [ __ ] page. >> Well, at that point they're not MAGA anymore. At ...

... the average MAGA voter might be looking at what's happening with this Comey indictment and being like, come on, turn the [ __ ] page. >> Well, at that point they're not MAGA anymore. At that point you're leaving the cult. >> Right. Well, that's that was going to be my next question. Do you think this second indictment of James Comey is hurti ...

... e. At that point you're leaving the cult. >> Right. Well, that's that was going to be my next question. Do you think this second indictment of James Comey is hurting the MAGA base? Is peeling people off? >> I honestly think it's so insignificant. Like with everything else going on, I don't even know if people give a [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> I don't ...

... James Comey thing to me I I agree with you substantively, I don't care either. But the the thing that I think is interesting about it is it does seem to be like there is MAGA fatigue. We see that happening all over. >> It's happening with Mom. >> We're seeing it yeah, with our own mom. Uh but certainly you see news pieces about this constantl ...

... ening all over. >> It's happening with Mom. >> We're seeing it yeah, with our own mom. Uh but certainly you see news pieces about this constantly now. People are leaving MAGA. There's that whole leaving the MAGA cult thing that had the billboards all over the United States, etc. etc. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot of that sentiment happening, and ...

... h Mom. >> We're seeing it yeah, with our own mom. Uh but certainly you see news pieces about this constantly now. People are leaving MAGA. There's that whole leaving the MAGA cult thing that had the billboards all over the United States, etc. etc. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot of that sentiment happening, and I feel like this James Comey thing is ...

... os. Look over here, look over here, look over here. Now it's like we're going back to James Comey and the seashells? >> Mhm. Yeah. >> I feel like it's it's weakening the MAGA base. Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah, I think so. >> And speaking of going back to the same playbook, our second topic is Trump coming for Jimmy Kimmel again. Trump and Melania ...

... like this whole voucher system with our schooling here. I literally think they're just uneducated and don't realize like what you're voting for. I think that's a lot of MAGA. >> Mhm. >> Um and all of the MAGA that are trickling down to just being Republicans, I think they don't understand what they're voting for. And it's not until it starts ...

... h our schooling here. I literally think they're just uneducated and don't realize like what you're voting for. I think that's a lot of MAGA. >> Mhm. >> Um and all of the MAGA that are trickling down to just being Republicans, I think they don't understand what they're voting for. And it's not until it starts to be implemented that you realize ...

... think so. Yeah. You're either going to double down as a racist bigot or you're going to come to your senses. And I think there are a lot of Republicans who just are not MAGA. >> But the I think for a lot of MAGA, I wish mom and dad were here to either corroborate this or deny this, but I think for a lot of MAGA, there's like if you can separ ...

... o double down as a racist bigot or you're going to come to your senses. And I think there are a lot of Republicans who just are not MAGA. >> But the I think for a lot of MAGA, I wish mom and dad were here to either corroborate this or deny this, but I think for a lot of MAGA, there's like if you can separate the blatant racism >> Yeah. >> by ...

... f Republicans who just are not MAGA. >> But the I think for a lot of MAGA, I wish mom and dad were here to either corroborate this or deny this, but I think for a lot of MAGA, there's like if you can separate the blatant racism >> Yeah. >> by one step, by hiding it in some kind of like supposed political reasoning, >> Mhm. >> then they are li ...

... t their vote will be basically thrown in the trash can. >> Null and void, yeah. >> Um >> Yeah. >> So it's like there's that step in the middle that allows the the racist MAGA person >> Mhm. >> to essentially say, this isn't about race, even though it 100% is literally about race. >> Yeah, I don't know. I would like to think that the majority ...

... back into Christianity, prosperity gospel where it's like give me all your money, racism, blah blah blah. And they just they roll with it. But to your point of like most MAGA or level-headed people that have just been like hoodwinked or whatever, there's this guy on he goes on CNN a lot. His name is Scott Jennings. He's there like MAGA guy. S ...

... e most MAGA or level-headed people that have just been like hoodwinked or whatever, there's this guy on he goes on CNN a lot. His name is Scott Jennings. He's there like MAGA guy. So they'll always have like little debates between whoever they bring people on. That dude is usually pretty measured. Of late, he has been popping off and cussing ...

... e is usually pretty measured. Of late, he has been popping off and cussing at people and like he's going a little crazy. And I think I don't know if that's like the real MAGA is coming out or if he feels the back is against the wall cuz MAGA's crumbling. I'm not sure what, but he generally speaking is presented as kind of like the level-heade ...

... s coming out or if he feels the back is against the wall cuz MAGA's crumbling. I'm not sure what, but he generally speaking is presented as kind of like the level-headed MAGA who's just here to have political discourse. And now he's like getting in it. He's going wild. >> I've seen it. Well, I'm and that's that's the predicament they're in ri ...

... like a press conference. Did you see that? >> Yes. So stupid. But I think that the overall we are dealing with maybe the most Machiavellian group of political people in MAGA that that we've ever seen in America. They are highly organized. Project 2025 is evidence of that. >> Yeah. >> They are doing very sinister things in the open. And so fo ...

... s not a big jump to think like they are putting two and two together. They know that Donald Trump cannot die in his sleep of some medical malady. That will be the end of MAGA. He must be made a martyr. >> A martyr. Yeah. >> Must be. I think the Republican Party or whatever, whoever's pulling the strings, we're talking about Peter Thiel, Palan ...

... me those [ __ ] aren't trying to kill Donald Trump? >> Right. >> Of course they are. Because they realize he needs to die in a public way to become a martyr so that the MAGA movement and their control in the current Republican Party can be maintained. Because if he goes away and the Trump boys go away and they don't get their billion-dollar ...

... to like I don't know if this this most recent guy was liberal or whatever, but it's like the liberal people are like, "Yeah, bro, I'm not doing assassinations." But the MAGA people are like, "I'll do it." >> [laughter] >> Anyways, that's my two cents on it. >> interesting. >> Um I just can't like I I my brain kind of looks at systems and eve ...

... already done. I don't think they're ever going to hire anybody with actual qualifications. >> Yeah. >> So, does it matter? >> I don't know. Do you think the majority of MAGA thinks Hegseth did a good job in these hearings? >> Like actual MAGA? Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "Absolutely." >> Don't answer no questions about the war you started. >> ...

... actual qualifications. >> Yeah. >> So, does it matter? >> I don't know. Do you think the majority of MAGA thinks Hegseth did a good job in these hearings? >> Like actual MAGA? Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "Absolutely." >> Don't answer no questions about the war you started. >> Exactly. Well, where is your patriotism? >> Yeah. The I read an artic ...

... ere's one from Brendan Galios 1961. Will your dad be signing up for the Venezuelan front? He seems pretty, [laughter] you know, I think there's I don't know if it's like MAGA specifically. It seems like it is to me the kind of like war fantasy that that MAGA people have, you know, of like a like my dad's always talking about how he's going to ...

... ront? He seems pretty, [laughter] you know, I think there's I don't know if it's like MAGA specifically. It seems like it is to me the kind of like war fantasy that that MAGA people have, you know, of like a like my dad's always talking about how he's going to shoot people out in the street and [ __ ] like this. It's like my dad literally can ...

... t and I like got to dig deep with my parents about what their thoughts actually are on a lot of these different topics, I was just kind of under the assumption like, oh, MAGA, they just like Donald Trump and they're all kind of [ __ ] But, um, to really like get into the the kind of granular nature of what they think to me is is like valuable ...

... to really like get into the the kind of granular nature of what they think to me is is like valuable. I wish that like videos like that existed where you get to see real MAGA attitudes about um a variety of things honestly. Um here. Oh my god. Ancestor Harriet says, "Get your dad an autograph photo [laughter] of Obama." Do I dare? Do I dare? ...

... everything. This is from uh Jrus 69 or JT Iris 69. IU69, sorry. Uh, my partner and I only fight about politics. Do you think my families do you think families that have MAGA members will ever apologize when they wake up? Yeah. You know, I've started to see a [clears throat] little bit of those videos. They're they're few and far between, but ...

... I think I I think my mom would be like a different person as as would we all, I guess. You know, if she wasn't around my dad constantly kind of forcing her to be in the MAGA news world. [gasps] Um okay, okay, okay. Here's one from Michael Zampino D2K. Hey Chad, quick question. Do your parents ever admit that they're wrong when you show them ...

... know that that's like some of the [ __ ] that really blows my mind in this. Like I was saying earlier, you know, my sister and I obviously both knew that our parents are MAGA. We knew that they voted for Trump every time. All that [ __ ] But like when they come to this type of crap where where it's like Christy Gnome clearly lied about deport ...

... tion, etc., etc. And I think if I could tap into that a little bit, it might go a long way in getting him to just kind of relinquish some of the strangle hold this weird MAGA identity has on him. That's my goal with it. Um, if I can ever get through to him, I've tried a couple of times on this podcast. I remember telling him once that I saw h ...

... 're they're my dead enemy. It's like what what does that [ __ ] mean? Um but yeah, he's he's intense to say the least. Um this is from Mera C1. Tell Mary Lou you found a MAGA listener. I would love her reaction to the Michael Jackson trailer heart emoji and her favorite Michael Jackson songs. Happy Dude's Evening. Oh, wow. Happy dudes evening ...

... me Hills or as close as you could get and she [ __ ] cried at it. I was like, "What the hell?" So bizarre. She loves Michael Jackson. Um this is from Bamarola 24. Before MAGA was Bob always conservative. Yeah, I guess. But like not like this. He wasn't wishing people dead and [ __ ] Trump or, you know, really it was Obama. I think I think it ...

... just like that was it. The the switch was thrown. Now he wants everybody dead. A million ways to win says white nationalism is dying. Which is why Trump important to the MAGA movement. Once we're over this hump, people who think like Bob will be the minority. I think people who think like Bob are the minority. I think MAGA is the minority. Bu ...

... mp important to the MAGA movement. Once we're over this hump, people who think like Bob will be the minority. I think people who think like Bob are the minority. I think MAGA is the minority. But our system, the way this [ __ ] [ __ ] works is you don't have to win the popular vote. You just have to win the electoral college. And as you're se ...

... ation first surfaced. And uh my mom just like, "Yeah, whatever. It's not real." No. 47122 says, "Thanks for a great podcast. When did you first realize your parents were MAGA? I heard before they weren't previously as politically loud." Um, I remember, we've talked about this on the show, there was a moment where I was home visiting my parent ...

... bout making one and just being like, "Here, enjoy." I don't know. I don't know. I know that it's necessary. I'll I'll figure this out. Um RG Winters says, "Any advice on MAGA parents ignoring administration issues because they're too privileged to experience the consequences? Would love some help here." Lol. My parents are the same way. It's ...

... nd that. That's part of like trying to explore that in this podcast, you know, when I'm talking about any given situation where somebody's just getting [ __ ] wrecked by MAGA, you know, families getting torn apart, deportations, whatever. Trying to get my parents to understand that like these are human beings just like you, and this horrible ...

... inst the UK. It can only be war. I hope we don't go to war. Uh Emosster, I have no idea how to say this one. I'm so sorry. Do your parents have any idea why there aren't MAGA people watching? Surely they're they're starting to catch on that they are the shock value being consumed. Yeah. I mean I think my I don't know. It's weird. I I think ab ...

... , so it is like irrelevant to them. This is from 74 Driver. Have your parents always been that religious? My parents were always Christians, but in the last few years as MAGA, they have gotten super religious and religion racist. Uh, this is something my sister and I talk about on and off the show. No, they have not always been this religious ...

... just like stopped going to church. It was never a part of our lives after that. I don't know why they're religious now. I think it's because it's part of the ideology of MAGA that they believe they have to every piece of the um identity that comes with with being MAGA. I think they have they're like, "We have to absorb it. This has to be who ...

... hy they're religious now. I think it's because it's part of the ideology of MAGA that they believe they have to every piece of the um identity that comes with with being MAGA. I think they have they're like, "We have to absorb it. This has to be who we are." And therefore, they promote that they're Christian. But like you saw with my dad toda ...

... She calls it hamburger or um washagg is washrag. I don't know. I I my mom endlessly entertains me. I think she's hilarious. Um this is from M13. Do you think Maryl is as MAGA as she thinks she is or do you think it's more so an environment thing to use her own words about you being in California? Yeah. of the two parent. Like I think my dad's ...

... s more so an environment thing to use her own words about you being in California? Yeah. of the two parent. Like I think my dad's like I don't even know if my dad's like MAGA exactly. My dad's just like mean and MAGA is mean so he aligns with that. I don't think my mom I don't know it it's hard cuz she says some wild [ __ ] sometimes that I'm ...

... own words about you being in California? Yeah. of the two parent. Like I think my dad's like I don't even know if my dad's like MAGA exactly. My dad's just like mean and MAGA is mean so he aligns with that. I don't think my mom I don't know it it's hard cuz she says some wild [ __ ] sometimes that I'm like whoa what the [ __ ] I I see like th ...

... o mad when anybody says anything contrary to the whatever he's promoting, whatever idea uh he's talking about. Um, this is Lee Walker101172 says, "Before there was Q and Maga, what were your parents like? What were they into?" [clears throat] My dad was very into Kansas State football. I guess Kansas all Kansas State sports. My entire family ...

... hildren, uh yes. Okay. Now, you I don't know if this was yesterday or the day before. We were driving in the car, coming back from Dad, and you told me that you were not MAGA. Do you remember this? I have never thought I was MAGA. You guys labeled me with this. We labeled you. >> You labeled me. I've always thought I was a Republican. >> You ...

... s yesterday or the day before. We were driving in the car, coming back from Dad, and you told me that you were not MAGA. Do you remember this? I have never thought I was MAGA. You guys labeled me with this. We labeled you. >> You labeled me. I've always thought I was a Republican. >> You have a [ __ ] hat that says "MAGA". But that's >> You g ...

... e never thought I was MAGA. You guys labeled me with this. We labeled you. >> You labeled me. I've always thought I was a Republican. >> You have a [ __ ] hat that says "MAGA". But that's >> You got all the products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, ...

... ought I was a Republican. >> You have a [ __ ] hat that says "MAGA". But that's >> You got all the products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. ...

... n. >> You have a [ __ ] hat that says "MAGA". But that's >> You got all the products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, th ...

... at says "MAGA". But that's >> You got all the products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm sti ...

... "MAGA". But that's >> You got all the products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, ...

... he products. that Republicans can uh you can be a Republican and not be a MAGA, and you can be a MAGA and be a Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, then. Right, because you're suppor ...

... Republican. No. MAGA is MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, then. Right, because you're supporting Donald Trump. If you support Donald Trump, you're MAGA. You do support him. Yes. That's MAGA. >> do. Okay ...

... MAGA, period. It's its own entity. MAGA is the Republican Party at this point. Okay. So, I'm a Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, then. Right, because you're supporting Donald Trump. If you support Donald Trump, you're MAGA. You do support him. Yes. That's MAGA. >> do. Okay. To be a Republican and ...

... Republican. Right. That at this point, that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, then. Right, because you're supporting Donald Trump. If you support Donald Trump, you're MAGA. You do support him. Yes. That's MAGA. >> do. Okay. To be a Republican and not be MAGA, it would mean saying, "I hate Donald Trump." Or the really so I would never vote ...

... , that means MAGA. I guess I'm still MAGA, then. Right, because you're supporting Donald Trump. If you support Donald Trump, you're MAGA. You do support him. Yes. That's MAGA. >> do. Okay. To be a Republican and not be MAGA, it would mean saying, "I hate Donald Trump." Or the really so I would never vote for him. I think his policies are bad, ...

... Right, because you're supporting Donald Trump. If you support Donald Trump, you're MAGA. You do support him. Yes. That's MAGA. >> do. Okay. To be a Republican and not be MAGA, it would mean saying, "I hate Donald Trump." Or the really so I would never vote for him. I think his policies are bad, but I'm still for fiscal responsibility, conserv ...

... issing that. That's not Yeah, there's a lot of things that my eyes are being opened to that I don't like. But, I am still a Republican. I guess you're calling me still a MAGA. Yeah. And Trump is my president. >> You have to renounce like your love of Donald Trump. You can still be conservative and a Republican. You just have to say "Fuck Dona ...

... an. You just have to say "Fuck Donald Trump. I see all this terrible [ __ ] happening, but I'm still conservative and I'm still a Republican." Well, not yet. Okay, still MAGA. Speaking of things that are turning your head, changing your mind, let's get into today's topics. First up, we got Trump in China. This week Trump took a two-day trip t ...

... Just like the weapons of mass destruction were not [ __ ] real. It's all like a cash grab. >> I do believe he cares about America. Okay, you believe that. But when other MAGA see him say this three times, I don't care about Americans financial situation again and again and again. Do you think other MAGA are starting to get turned off by this? ...

... Okay, you believe that. But when other MAGA see him say this three times, I don't care about Americans financial situation again and again and again. Do you think other MAGA are starting to get turned off by this? No. My MAGA No. My MAGA friends are more turned off about kissing the golden statues, that kind of stuff. The bringing the religi ...

... say this three times, I don't care about Americans financial situation again and again and again. Do you think other MAGA are starting to get turned off by this? No. My MAGA No. My MAGA friends are more turned off about kissing the golden statues, that kind of stuff. The bringing the religious freak lady in. That We're concerned about that. ...

... ree times, I don't care about Americans financial situation again and again and again. Do you think other MAGA are starting to get turned off by this? No. My MAGA No. My MAGA friends are more turned off about kissing the golden statues, that kind of stuff. The bringing the religious freak lady in. That We're concerned about that. >> But do yo ...

... o, they >> Right. that country's turned a little bit different, too. Uh-huh. Okay. Um we we just got some news today about Ebola. It's starting to break out globally. My MAGA friend sent me that. Yeah. Do you feel like we are in a good position as Americans to protect ourselves against this? Probably not. And why do you think that is? >> true ...

... has people around him though that are going to help. Biden didn't? Vance. I'm talking about Vance. Okay. Harley Road Productions, oops, says um I've seen videos where a MAGA is interviewed and asked if Donald Trump did something bad in front of the Dems >> the Dems or in front of them maybe, like M R D uh I don't know any of this. They would ...

... ver. Um so I haven't noticed the tick. Mina Lou, I think that's right. Mary Lou, you're very sweet. My best friend cut me off for trying to talk politics with her. She's MAGA like you. Do you think she was right to do so? 30-year friendship. No. No. Politics should never do that to friendships um or family. All right. There you go. Spearhead ...

... ne sip of a regular margarita, I'm your friend for life and for night, and I just laugh [laughter] all night long. All night long. All right. One sip, and you can ask my MAGA friend, Jules. All right. >> Matt Jackson WNC, interruption count for this week as follows: Bob 37, Mary Lou 10, Chad 10, Haley zero. >> Oh. Oh, Haley zero, because she ...

... appening, he's down for it always. >> him. >> to ask him tomorrow, does he really, really mean it? I don't think he does. Stephen English 198, Mary Lou, why are die-hard MAGA the only ones who can understand Trump's erratic behavior? Does a secret decoder ring come with the red hat? Now, what does that mean? Like, when we show his crazy tweet ...

... he usually dismisses me by talking to you in whispered tones. >> [laughter] >> Ben Carmichael O, if Alex Pretty shouldn't protest with a gun, neither should of Michigan MAGA that had assault rifles at Capitol buildings protesting COVID. True. Ronda PDX, Mary Lou, I escaped the influence of a cult earlier in life. I know how hard it was to ac ...

... . True. Ronda PDX, Mary Lou, I escaped the influence of a cult earlier in life. I know how hard it was to accept reality, but I know you have the strength to move beyond MAGA. You can do this. It's nice and supportive. >> what kind of cult she was in. Sorry. BRBR0313, Mary Lou, do you care about people who have overstayed visas even though it ...

... know. I miss him. But I'm This is just to say that all these people you like, that you still like and and look at their social media and stuff, are turning on Trump. The MAGA thought leaders are turning on Trump. Not all of them, I don't believe, but the podcasters podcasters. A lot of podcasters. >> we talked about this. Joe Rogan, all of th ...

... ] >> I love this. Marcy. Marcy. Clouds. I like you. What did you have for breakfast that day? Um Wednesday. Um eggs and bacon. All right. Jen Tegrity 333, Mary Lou is ex-MAGA. You're being lied to. You dismiss proof against Trump while accepting similar allegations with less evidence of others. That's confirmation bias. You don't deserve to b ...

... d. You have a good heart. Listen to your kids. Okay. That's somebody who got out of the cult. Okay. >> telling you you're in one. Okay. What do you think when you see ex-MAGA people saying you're in a cult, I was in it, too? Does that have any effect on you? Little. Okay. Panicked page, hi Mary Lou, do you notice that when your husband is tal ...

... other stuff. New season of Dorohedoro just came out. That was very much on my radar. Um 3517, hi from Scotland here. Do you know about Reform UK? They're our version of MAGA. Their leader Farage has also copied Trump on immigration ideas. I don't know much about it, um other than if I remember right, wasn't there another dude there that was ...

... Tucker, Candace, Megan, MTG are showing you, Mary Lou, how to disagree with Trump and still be Republican and the troops. Also, you said recently you are Republican, not MAGA, but you don't object at being at beginning of episodes where Chad says you're MAGA. Yeah, I don't like that. He always says that. I don't I really don't think I am. You ...

... d still be Republican and the troops. Also, you said recently you are Republican, not MAGA, but you don't object at being at beginning of episodes where Chad says you're MAGA. Yeah, I don't like that. He always says that. I don't I really don't think I am. You don't think what? You're MAGA? Yeah. You don't think you're MAGA? No. Mom, you have ...

... being at beginning of episodes where Chad says you're MAGA. Yeah, I don't like that. He always says that. I don't I really don't think I am. You don't think what? You're MAGA? Yeah. You don't think you're MAGA? No. Mom, you have Trump hats, cologne, Trumpy Bear. >> That doesn't matter. Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my pres ...

... e Chad says you're MAGA. Yeah, I don't like that. He always says that. I don't I really don't think I am. You don't think what? You're MAGA? Yeah. You don't think you're MAGA? No. Mom, you have Trump hats, cologne, Trumpy Bear. >> That doesn't matter. Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my president, I support him no matter what ...

... , you have Trump hats, cologne, Trumpy Bear. >> That doesn't matter. Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my president, I support him no matter what. That's MAGA. It's not MAGA. MAGA is Make America Great Again. Yeah, you're MAGA. Emily Reach, I definitely saw the wheels turning with Mary Lou tonight. Two men scenario and brought ...

... p hats, cologne, Trumpy Bear. >> That doesn't matter. Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my president, I support him no matter what. That's MAGA. It's not MAGA. MAGA is Make America Great Again. Yeah, you're MAGA. Emily Reach, I definitely saw the wheels turning with Mary Lou tonight. Two men scenario and brought up many points ...

... , cologne, Trumpy Bear. >> That doesn't matter. Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my president, I support him no matter what. That's MAGA. It's not MAGA. MAGA is Make America Great Again. Yeah, you're MAGA. Emily Reach, I definitely saw the wheels turning with Mary Lou tonight. Two men scenario and brought up many points where ...

... Yeah, it very much does. And you keep saying he's my president, I support him no matter what. That's MAGA. It's not MAGA. MAGA is Make America Great Again. Yeah, you're MAGA. Emily Reach, I definitely saw the wheels turning with Mary Lou tonight. Two men scenario and brought up many points where you were thinking deep about all thoughts. Wha ...

... e past, it's a a shitty video game on the Super Nintendo called Super Populous, look it up. Holly Lane, Mary Lou, what would you say to Bob if you were to step away from MAGA / liking DJT, and what would you say to Chad and Haley? Chad, what would you say to your mom? Imagine if you did stop supporting Trump, what would you say to Dad? I was ...

... ll find it. Harley Rhodes Productions. To my previous question, the person interviewed said that they would support Trump even if he did something very bad. I think most MAGA would. I agree 100%. Uh Jan Monkey 81. Mary Lou before Trump, name another living person that you worshipped like him where you blindly defended and made excuse for anyt ...

... self is almost like a dividing line. Like what you think of the idea of woke, if you think it's good, you're a liberal snowflake, whatever. If you think it's bad, you're MAGA. Um, and I was trying to get her to see that. and even just like what the meaning of the word itself actually is. Commander Scotty in7 by the way thanks for singing Sele ...

... 33, have you seen the Ashley Stlair stuff? Some of it. I think she can change Mary Lou. Truly, it would give Mary Lou a perspective into how exactly she's being duped by MAGA. Um, for those who don't know, Ashley Sinclair was a MAGA influencer who I believe had one of Elon Musk's children and she recently has been making the round. She was on ...

... hink she can change Mary Lou. Truly, it would give Mary Lou a perspective into how exactly she's being duped by MAGA. Um, for those who don't know, Ashley Sinclair was a MAGA influencer who I believe had one of Elon Musk's children and she recently has been making the round. She was on Hassan [ __ ] show reading or letting Hassan [ __ ] read ...

... s that um Elon Musk sent her that were about like space lasers and all this weird [ __ ] And I think she also has some from Steven Miller maybe. But yeah, she's a former MAGA influencer who has turned to the light side as they say and she's now making the rounds. She's interesting. Um, ancestor Harriet, it kills me that Marylu assumes positiv ...

... tonnage of things she's disagreeing with him about, it is stacking up. I I think we're very close with my mom to like a full outright proclamation that she is no longer MAGA, does not support Trump, will not be voting for him in his third uh term. I think we're almost there. I'm looking forward to it. Mogb 4147, thank you very much. Chicka C ...

... off. Appropriate. All right. Fair. Um, Elise Morgan Marylu is almost there, but you're pushing her away by being confrontational when she disagrees. Rich Lois at leaving MAGA has great tips. Said with love. Thank you very much. I'll uh I'll try to remember that. Yeah, I think we've we're very close with her. The culling 497. Has there been an ...

... e. Thank you very much. I'll uh I'll try to remember that. Yeah, I think we've we're very close with her. The culling 497. Has there been any rift between Marylu and her MAGA friends over the persecution of Assan? No. I mean, my mom doesn't really have a lot of friends. She's got her horse buddies, but I don't No, there has been no rift that ...

... do your parents think he cares about anyone other than him? I don't [ __ ] know. I mean, this is the best I can do with that question. I think there is something in the MAGA base that is like when you decide, okay, [ __ ] it. I'm in this now. I'm gonna vote for Trump. I'm gonna support Trump. I'm gonna publicly talk about that. Um maybe buy ...

... and he really does care about America. Even though that the opposite is very clearly true, Elite Scopes 100. Not only would your mom have an identity crisis from leaving MAGA, but she'd also lose all the friends in her MAGA circle and most likely her husband. Um, the thing is she can't lose her husband cuz he can't go nowhere. Um, but her fri ...

... h that the opposite is very clearly true, Elite Scopes 100. Not only would your mom have an identity crisis from leaving MAGA, but she'd also lose all the friends in her MAGA circle and most likely her husband. Um, the thing is she can't lose her husband cuz he can't go nowhere. Um, but her friends I also don't think her friends are like I do ...

... mali? We did speak about her when all of that stuff was going on. When that um God, well, I now forget that guy's name. Nick something. whoever that little guy was, that MAGA guy that was going into like knocking on the doors and being like, "They're not here. This is fraud." When all that was popping off, I definitely did a segment about Amy ...

... nk you're talking about how confused my mom was about the Hunter Biden thing. I'm not exactly sure, but glad to entertain. Diane Witter, please have Rich Lois of leaving MAGA as a guest and have mom follow his page. He's former MAGA and interviews people coming out of MAGA. Yeah, I'm aware of that guy. Let me let me look into that. Put some m ...

... Hunter Biden thing. I'm not exactly sure, but glad to entertain. Diane Witter, please have Rich Lois of leaving MAGA as a guest and have mom follow his page. He's former MAGA and interviews people coming out of MAGA. Yeah, I'm aware of that guy. Let me let me look into that. Put some more notes on my hand here. Um, BA skeptic or BA skeptic 11 ...

... but glad to entertain. Diane Witter, please have Rich Lois of leaving MAGA as a guest and have mom follow his page. He's former MAGA and interviews people coming out of MAGA. Yeah, I'm aware of that guy. Let me let me look into that. Put some more notes on my hand here. Um, BA skeptic or BA skeptic 1161. Thank you very much. Trump is convict ...

... for the offer. Um but I agree with you. Talking to people I think is primarily how she's going to come out of this hole. Um Natalie Peterson 4181. Hey Chad, I used to be MAGA in 2016. Maryl is close. Don't lose hope. It takes years to unlearn the toxic rhetoric. I needed many one-to-one conversations. Thank you very much for saying this. I co ...

... the message to say that like it can be done. I appreciate that. And welcome to the other side. Better than 98. Next Wednesday episode about how world sees us or how many MAGA peeps are pedophiles, criminals at Reichwing Watch have posts you can share with her. These topics may hit. Thank you very much for the suggestion. I'll check that out. ...

... hat stuff. The only plants she grows in her backyard are specifically ones that butterflies eat. Um, Ashie Ashton 9412. How do you think Bob will react to Marylu leaving MAGA assuming that happens? Also, Chad curious your thoughts on Bashar Daryl Anka. Love the pod. I don't know. Bashar Daryl Anka. Sorry about that. And uh yeah, I discussed t ...

... ryl Anka. Love the pod. I don't know. Bashar Daryl Anka. Sorry about that. And uh yeah, I discussed this earlier about my dad. What will his reaction be if my mom leaves MAGA? I literally don't know. Could be World War II in the culture household or he may not give a [ __ ] I have no idea. Mr. the Red Fox 911 POD and diamond listener again. I ...

... ice Tanley or Alice Tan Lee 1496. Hi Chad, love the pod. If it was confirmed that the 24 election was rigged for Trump, do you think Mary Lou would believe it and reject MAGA? If 20 was stolen, why not 24? No. We've had that exact conversation on this show before. Just like Trump, my parents only believe that it's rigged if he loses. If he wi ...

... ut the pod. Why you worried, Brooke? The pod will be fine. We'll be here every Wednesday and Sunday. Jesse Fink 4425, Mary Lou needs reminded. Wednesday eps are bursting MAGA bubble, not happy hang out with mom. I know, I kind of changed the name of the the bursting the MAGA bubble, but maybe I'll bring that back so it's it's foremost in her ...

... Jesse Fink 4425, Mary Lou needs reminded. Wednesday eps are bursting MAGA bubble, not happy hang out with mom. I know, I kind of changed the name of the the bursting the MAGA bubble, but maybe I'll bring that back so it's it's foremost in her mind. >> [laughter] >> Uh Tory Gordon, I'm curious about Bob's adoption story, especially considering ...

... white, winner and loser, adversarial context. And that is what has made him like hyper-competitive his whole life, hyper hyper-competitive. And in his older age, as now MAGA has kind of set in on top of that, it's just become a million times worse. Um I hope that answered your question, but I would tell you to go back and watch the first epi ...

... k I see what you're saying here but that is not the case. My apologies. TJ Gamer 9713 Hey Chad, I just want to say I agree with Haley. We can't move on from Trump or the MAGA era until we have another Nuremberg. Yeah, look that may be the case and and I'm down for it if that's what the next um administration wants to do, you know, hold all th ...

... wo cents. Matthew Danielson 6415 Bob would perform under the name MAGAnifique. That's his drag name. >> [laughter] >> That's pretty good one. Miss Simon or M. Simon 1984 MAGA says liberals don't know what a woman is yet consider Michelle Obama a man even though she bore two children. Can you speak on that hypocrisy? That That's all MAGA. It i ...

... 1984 MAGA says liberals don't know what a woman is yet consider Michelle Obama a man even though she bore two children. Can you speak on that hypocrisy? That That's all MAGA. It is just hypocrisy. It it's like the um the thing that's going on with Kimmel right now where they're like oh, he should be fired. He's saying all this [ __ ] and it' ...

... going to [ __ ] wipe out a civilization? People need to get the [ __ ] kicked out of them. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. And so the hypocrisy is always like front and center with MAGA. They can do whatever the [ __ ] they want, say all this nasty [ __ ] do all this nasty [ __ ] Anytime somebody cracks a joke at in their direction, [ __ ] you, you're g ...

... this nasty [ __ ] do all this nasty [ __ ] Anytime somebody cracks a joke at in their direction, [ __ ] you, you're going to jail. It's incredibly hypocritical. That is MAGA. Cold Viper 18 Is Bob okay or is it concerning? He's seen better days. There ain't no two ways about that, but it seems like he's getting better. >> [snorts] >> We will ...

... ll behaved, but God, I just sincerely can't thank Peppermint enough for doing it. I know that it's like it's a lot to ask to be like can you come talk to my [ __ ] crazy MAGA mom? Something that Peppermint obviously does not have to do in any capacity. Something she wanted to do and I thought that it like it it moved the needle for my mom for ...

... which is stronger in her, but I think they both play a massive role in her not being able to say that or not even being open to the idea that she could be wrong, that uh MAGA might be a big grift. I don't know. I don't know which one is worse. Time will tell, I suppose. I feel like she's getting closer. I feel like we're we're closer than we' ...

... ad, thanks to you and Haley for what you do. You're welcome very much. Have you ever considered Lev Parnas as a guest? He seems like a great person to pierce the veil of MAGA. Lev Parnas, is that Aaron Parnas? Is he related to him? I watched that guy. I don't know this guy, Lev Parnas. Soviet-born American businessman and former associate of ...

... hink you're talking about the Scott Jennings clip with Adam Mockler where he's like get your [ __ ] finger out of my face. That clip to me is like so indicative of where Maga is at right now cuz Scott Jennings they they bring him on is he on CNN? Where do they bring him on or is it MSNBC? He's on one of the liberal ones. Yeah, he they he's a ...

... im on is he on CNN? Where do they bring him on or is it MSNBC? He's on one of the liberal ones. Yeah, he they he's a talking head on CNN. >> [snorts] >> Um and he's he's Maga. He's Republican. And so he plays like the opposition character basically in their little talking head shows and they had Adam Mockler was sitting next to him. I forget ...

... a coherent point and Scott Jennings is like get your [ __ ] finger out of my face. That like his inability to keep his [ __ ] in check I think is because he can feel it. Maga is crumbling. That is what it feels like to me as well and I think uh the the more feisty Scott Jennings gets on CNN the more it is revealing I think that that Maga is c ...

... it. Maga is crumbling. That is what it feels like to me as well and I think uh the the more feisty Scott Jennings gets on CNN the more it is revealing I think that that Maga is crumbling. In my opinion. Um Selma Villarreal 2783 coming from a family that quote did it the right way immigrating to this country it's hurtful to hear when Mary Lou ...

... believe he tried along with others to take Biden down. He'd be interesting to have on. All right. I'll I'll maybe reach out to them. Um Adeline South, have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? Have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? I'm not quite sure I understand what this means, Adeline South. Have your parents MAGA or lib house orde ...

... Biden down. He'd be interesting to have on. All right. I'll I'll maybe reach out to them. Um Adeline South, have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? Have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? I'm not quite sure I understand what this means, Adeline South. Have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? I'm so sorry. I I don't understand this ...

... have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? Have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? I'm not quite sure I understand what this means, Adeline South. Have your parents MAGA or lib house orders? I'm so sorry. I I don't understand this one. Catherine Perry H4Y, Lev Parnas was involved in creating the false Biden-Ukraine conspiracy theory, whi ...

... enerally. He insults my sister and I on a very consistent basis um with really nasty [ __ ] over the course of this podcast. Um for me, I just don't like I feel like the MAGA cult has taken my parents. I don't feel like the people that I'm talking to on this podcast are my parents exactly. And I just do my best to always kind of remember that ...

... 'll have to look back, but um yeah. >> [snorts] >> Captains Smales, Captains Males, Captains Malus. Sorry, I don't know how to say it. Thank you very much. Um Bamarol 24 Maga is an abusive relationship with DJT. They don't want to leave him. Correct. Two ICs One Palm, Chad and Haley, what policy should Democrats focus on to win the next elect ...

... everybody's got to figure out their own [ __ ] and do what's right for you, for sure. I'm not like condemning anybody who doesn't want to have the conversation with with MAGA people or whatever, obviously. But for me, I'm going to keep doing it. And the reason that we, you know, put it on YouTube, part of that is so that people who don't want ...

... ing to change my mom's mind. That is a a personal goal for me, but the show itself, the document we're creating, is not only a way to kind of expose these attitudes that MAGA people have to an audience of people who I I think don't see these attitudes and don't really know how MAGA people think about this [ __ ] I think that's important, but ...

... ing, is not only a way to kind of expose these attitudes that MAGA people have to an audience of people who I I think don't see these attitudes and don't really know how MAGA people think about this [ __ ] I think that's important, but also to kind of just document the conversation itself, which I don't think is happening in a lot of places, ...

... bility like he has. So once he's dead and we have fair elections like it will be over. Then we swipe a democratic candidate and everything else happens. >> who have gone MAGA are also now like keen to kind of return back to normal Republicanism. Yeah, it's like being it's like uh you know, all of a sudden everybody's zombies and then zap the ...

... the right-wing conspiracy theory guy. I'm in contact with them now. So that'll probably be the next guest and then after that we'll go hopefully we can you know, liberal MAGA, liberal MAGA. I'd like to do it that way. Una Pizarra Um Mary Lou's doubling down because she knows Trump is a PDF Oh, pedophile. Did a doctor make Blob draw a clock? W ...

... conspiracy theory guy. I'm in contact with them now. So that'll probably be the next guest and then after that we'll go hopefully we can you know, liberal MAGA, liberal MAGA. I'd like to do it that way. Una Pizarra Um Mary Lou's doubling down because she knows Trump is a PDF Oh, pedophile. Did a doctor make Blob draw a clock? We made him dra ...

... e boring. I say you will let everyone that has blue balls finally feel better. >> [laughter] >> We're research edging you. Nautical, I truly believe that the root of the MAGA delusion is the lack of understanding what a credible source is. If they think it's CNN versus Newsmax, in reality neither are credible. I wish they could understand. I ...

... doubles down instead of breaking out. Every week I remain hopeful. Keep it up, Chad. I agree. I I think there's a And And this goes for like everybody, really, not just MAGA, but MAGA is like where it's very concentrated. The idea that your identity has become something based on one ideological position. Uh I would say people who are like su ...

... own instead of breaking out. Every week I remain hopeful. Keep it up, Chad. I agree. I I think there's a And And this goes for like everybody, really, not just MAGA, but MAGA is like where it's very concentrated. The idea that your identity has become something based on one ideological position. Uh I would say people who are like super into t ...

... s. >> After retirement, I think he's kind of given up on everything. >> Uh-huh. Howlin Hank Hawkins theory, Mary Lou wears the red American flag hat when news related to MAGA Trump is indefensible, she wears the Trump hats when she thinks she's right. Mhm. We'll take a look at that. That is interesting. That could be real. K Vin Weagle 777, g ...

... eah, probably. Yeah. There's a direct correlation between like, you know, discontinuing learning and like being open-minded and that's why they're this way. It's why all MAGA are this way in my opinion. Like you just stopped. You said I don't need to learn anything else. And that's why you're able to be grifted. That's why I mean it's it's th ...

... need to learn anything else. And that's why you're able to be grifted. That's why I mean it's it's there's a direct correlation between like intelligence and, you know, MAGA. Yeah. >> MAGA. Jules G370, you both deserve better. Thank you very much. The GOC, thoughts on uh Michael Martin and Dump's meeting? In Ireland? Yeah, I guess so. I know ...

... anything else. And that's why you're able to be grifted. That's why I mean it's it's there's a direct correlation between like intelligence and, you know, MAGA. Yeah. >> MAGA. Jules G370, you both deserve better. Thank you very much. The GOC, thoughts on uh Michael Martin and Dump's meeting? In Ireland? Yeah, I guess so. I know nothing about ...

... I think most people agree with them there. Yeah. Mercy one, I'm surprised nobody has tried to convince you to go no contact with the ghost of your grandmother. Nanny is MAGA, Chad. Don't trust [laughter] her. I don't know what her her politics were, do you? >> They They never talked politics, but >> Yeah. >> [sighs] >> It was Kansas, and lik ...

... lunch yesterday. I I just don't rem- I don't remember. I don't remember anything political. I don't remember, so I don't I can't say, I guess. >> know. I hope she's not MAGA. I'll ask her tonight. Two Icys one palm, Chad, my earlier question about what Democrats should run on are all the things Trump's ran on in 2024. Right, but now he can't ...

... ushed. Uh yeah, she's pro-Trump. She's She has multiple posts that's pro-Trump. Um Colton Fink 8154, you know what though? Child abuse is child abuse. I don't know. Even MAGA ain't down with that. It may be hard for her to ever come back in any meaningful way. My dream candidates in 2028, AOC and Sanders. What's HB? HB, y'all. Happy birthday. ...

... at Look at the thumb print. Chad, can you see it? The >> Yeah, that's me going. >> Yeah. Stephen H198. Maryl, define Rhino. And can someone be a Republican without being MAGA? If not, do you believe MAGA should become a separate party from non-Trump Republicans? Three questions in there. First, define Rhino. >> Rhino is like you were a Republ ...

... had, can you see it? The >> Yeah, that's me going. >> Yeah. Stephen H198. Maryl, define Rhino. And can someone be a Republican without being MAGA? If not, do you believe MAGA should become a separate party from non-Trump Republicans? Three questions in there. First, define Rhino. >> Rhino is like you were a Republican or you are a Republican, ...

... ican or you are a Republican, but you're more Democrat as a Republican. So, you're a fake Republican is what a rhino is, >> right? >> Can you be Republican without being MAGA? >> Yes. You have labeled Dad and I MAGA. But I believe I'm a Republican. >> No, you're not. >> No. If you are wearing Trump hats, you're [ __ ] MAGA. >> Yeah, it's a cu ...

... more Democrat as a Republican. So, you're a fake Republican is what a rhino is, >> right? >> Can you be Republican without being MAGA? >> Yes. You have labeled Dad and I MAGA. But I believe I'm a Republican. >> No, you're not. >> No. If you are wearing Trump hats, you're [ __ ] MAGA. >> Yeah, it's a cult. My jaw is a cult. Republicans are sep ...

... lican without being MAGA? >> Yes. You have labeled Dad and I MAGA. But I believe I'm a Republican. >> No, you're not. >> No. If you are wearing Trump hats, you're [ __ ] MAGA. >> Yeah, it's a cult. My jaw is a cult. Republicans are separate from that. >> No. >> Yes. >> Michael Frey 2316. Maryl, your skin is glowing, but wearing a Trump hat on ...

... r forget it. God damn, I wish it was the 80s again. Greg Caner speaks in third person. Says, "Does Marylu know she's about to break away? >> Do you feel it coming?" from MAGA. >> I feel it coming in the end. No. >> Can you imagine a version of yourself that is not MAGA? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I'm not. You guys think I'm MAGA? Republican. >> If y ...

... oes Marylu know she's about to break away? >> Do you feel it coming?" from MAGA. >> I feel it coming in the end. No. >> Can you imagine a version of yourself that is not MAGA? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I'm not. You guys think I'm MAGA? Republican. >> If you were on TikTok and you made the switch and you were not my ja, you would be beloved. >> Yeah ...

... eel it coming?" from MAGA. >> I feel it coming in the end. No. >> Can you imagine a version of yourself that is not MAGA? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I'm not. You guys think I'm MAGA? Republican. >> If you were on TikTok and you made the switch and you were not my ja, you would be beloved. >> Yeah. >> People are like rooting for you. >> Okay. >> It's ...

... I think you guys will come along for you will dad won't but I think once it becomes like socially acceptable in in what you perceive to be the world to say I'm no longer MAGA I think you'll come along for that ride as well H Jordan one 13th of March heath said that Iran had no army, no navy, no leaders. So how are they blocking the straight o ...

... tates citizens. >> So he's not just pissing off Iran, he's pissing off every [ __ ] Muslim in America. >> Yeah. >> All right. Myl, do you consider your husband a typical MAGA supporter? He advocates for genocide. If he's an average MAGA, what does that say about MAGA in general? Do you think dad is average MAGA? >> No, I think he's over the t ...

... sing off every [ __ ] Muslim in America. >> Yeah. >> All right. Myl, do you consider your husband a typical MAGA supporter? He advocates for genocide. If he's an average MAGA, what does that say about MAGA in general? Do you think dad is average MAGA? >> No, I think he's over the top. >> He's extreme MAGA. >> Yeah, I think he's like XXX extre ...

... America. >> Yeah. >> All right. Myl, do you consider your husband a typical MAGA supporter? He advocates for genocide. If he's an average MAGA, what does that say about MAGA in general? Do you think dad is average MAGA? >> No, I think he's over the top. >> He's extreme MAGA. >> Yeah, I think he's like XXX extreme. >> Okay. [ __ ] Who knew? C ...

... consider your husband a typical MAGA supporter? He advocates for genocide. If he's an average MAGA, what does that say about MAGA in general? Do you think dad is average MAGA? >> No, I think he's over the top. >> He's extreme MAGA. >> Yeah, I think he's like XXX extreme. >> Okay. [ __ ] Who knew? Chad, your new nickname. Microphone Nazi. No m ...

... ates for genocide. If he's an average MAGA, what does that say about MAGA in general? Do you think dad is average MAGA? >> No, I think he's over the top. >> He's extreme MAGA. >> Yeah, I think he's like XXX extreme. >> Okay. [ __ ] Who knew? Chad, your new nickname. Microphone Nazi. No microphone for you. I said no touchy. >> You always say t ...

... don't know him, but Nick Fuentes is like >> crazy. I know. I've seen his clips and stuff for sure. I mean, I don't think it's the future of the Republican party. I think MAGA collapses. I think the Republican party returns to a more >> kind of reg, you know, if you want to call it regular Republican party. Like, do you remember how bad we all ...

... lania is on Prime. Have you seen it yet, Mom? >> Not yet. >> So, you and dad never watched her [ __ ] movie? >> Fake fans. >> Fake fans. >> Yeah. >> No, I was You're not MAGA. You don't support the president. >> Fake. >> Okay. >> Meatwed wife of a Houston Army staff sergeant was taken by ICE. She was brought here as a toddler and her husband ...

... es. I get bad messages. >> Yeah. >> I'd like to keep it private for now. >> Okay. Brody A says, "Chad, do you feel like it was good for Maryl to see a slightly more mild MAGA person? Jules didn't feel as extreme." [laughter] >> Okay. >> Yeah, maybe. >> Don't pick on Jules. Don't pick on Jules. I told her three times. >> That was a comment abo ...

... it and it just kind of dissipates into nothing, that's a scop. So maybe this is that. I don't know. We'll find out in time. >> El Fanny says, "My mom and siblings are as MAGA as your parents. Me, hubby, kids are as liberal as you, though I was registered Republican for 38 years. Any advice for how we can bridge through what is dividing my fam ...

... a week before or after sorry the election after he won and now I feel like we probably do need a new one. Um, King Bradley, will you be turning in your parents when the MAGA trials begin or will you hide them? They are at fault as much as these other monsters. IMO, uh, King Bradley, I disagree with this. I don't think my parents are as crimi ...

... r and her party. Who's my party? >> Ma. >> They're not nice to themselves. >> Not nice themselves. Not nice to anyone else. >> You want us to be nice to you, but you and Maga are not nice to anyone. I I truly feel the left side is more evil than the right. I really do. >> How many people has the left side shot in the face? >> Uh, a lot. They' ...

... Mary Lou, doesn't it bother you how truly hateful Bob is?" >> Yeah, some days he's nicer, some days he's not. >> All right. Sad chicken noises. Mary Lou, Donald J. Trump/Maga has brought textbook fascism upon our country. This is tyranny. If you don't see it that way, you need to consume different news media. >> I'm trying. >> What? >> Let me ...

... brag about sexually assaulting women? that thing mentally for you to get over that, to get beyond that, to look past it, whatever, >> is a significant part of what makes MAGA MAGA. So, I was curious about it. >> I just thought it was a hard question to throw at her right from the get-go. >> Sorry, >> that's the show. Um, Madison B, I 10,000% ...

... about sexually assaulting women? that thing mentally for you to get over that, to get beyond that, to look past it, whatever, >> is a significant part of what makes MAGA MAGA. So, I was curious about it. >> I just thought it was a hard question to throw at her right from the get-go. >> Sorry, >> that's the show. Um, Madison B, I 10,000% don't ...

... s? What is the goal?" Mom, >> wow. You answer that one. >> I hope it doesn't. I mean, I don't want to see uh I don't want to be alive 15 years if like Trump's regime and MAGA and conservativism take over America. I want the exact opposite to happen. I want it to collapse and have full liberalism everywhere. >> We dad and I won't be alive then ...

... tart and then she didn't know how to keep coming back and and she's very nice. She'd never say anything like >> But that Access Hollywood tape is like it's the origin of MAGA. >> I know, but it that threw her for a loop. I I I fault >> I was surprised that you hit her with that first question. I really was. >> I wasn't expecting to. When she ...

... ean Withers on the podcast? He's great and very knowledgeable." Sure. Set it up. Let me know when to expect him. Uh Hi Waffles says, "Do you guys think don't tread on me MAGA people are now comply or die?" Yes, I appreciate that you both are so dedicated to the pod. Thank you. Yes, that is one of the the most bizarre turnings that I've ever s ...

... If you don't comply, they're just going to kick the [ __ ] out of you. And that's how it goes. What happened? What happened, Mom? >> What do you mean? >> The attitude of MAGA. And I mean, originally this was from the Tea Party, but the Tea Party kind of grew into the MAGA movement. Don't tread on me. That's the Tea Party slogan, part of MAGA' ...

... t happened? What happened, Mom? >> What do you mean? >> The attitude of MAGA. And I mean, originally this was from the Tea Party, but the Tea Party kind of grew into the MAGA movement. Don't tread on me. That's the Tea Party slogan, part of MAGA's ideology. Don't tread on me. Now it's comply or die. Do what ICE tells you. Tread all over me, p ...

... erent. The podcast is different. It's It's not really who our family is other than we're on one side, they're on the other. >> Yeah. Chay987, do you think bringing an ex MAGA on would be beneficial? And could we get followups on unanswered questions from the previous episode? Like when Mary Lou says, "I have to look into it." Thanks. Yeah, a ...

... on this show. Um, Jay Zilikin Jillicanin Jillicanin, I don't know how to say this. I'm sorry. Are there any single issues that might cause you to change your support for MAGA? For example, if Republicans and Democrats swap positions on abortion, would you re-evaluate uh your vote for Republicans? Mom, >> I don't believe in abortion. >> Right. ...

... undocumented person is a civil, not criminal offense, and you should do one of these with Dean Withers, a 21-year-old liberal debate master who came from a conservative MAGA family." I love Dean Withers. I It's not I mean, I wish it was that easy to just like DM him and be like, "Hey, come on our show." >> Um I I don't know how to get him on ...

... t from a Trump themed restaurant. When will this grift end have one in Arizona? I totally agree. That's one of the craziest things about this to me is that none of these MAGA supporters see the grift that he's just like getting money from anyone and everyone he can, including the $500 million in an offshore account in Qar. Marty McFly says, " ...

... e Jubilee. They make some interesting content. For those who don't know, it's like they'll put uh somebody in the center who's liberal and then have like 20 conservative MAGA followers sitting around them in a circle and they'll do this kind of like hot button, you know, first one come, first serve um debate type thing. It's pretty interestin ...

... er your daily life and such." I'd subscribe to that for sure. If only I had the time. Um, Soul Aperture says, "Chad, has your dad always been like this? Do you think the MAGA boomers are the victims of lead poisoning?" My dad has always been mean and adversarial. The the kind of like political infusion only really came about during Obama. Thi ...

... gave her some of my thoughts. I was like, you should change it to like political derangement syndrome. You might have a better shot at it. because she was obviously very MAGA. Trump derangement syndrome for those who don't know is this idea that uh you know people who think Trump is as bad as he is are deranged and that it is like a real psyc ...

... an the right? Love to everybody. Because I think the I think my parents' views and how they express them, I do believe that they are like I don't know if they're average MAGA, but I think that they are those ideas are common in the MAGA voting base. I think there are some people in MAGA that are, you know, tricked or they voted on um, you kno ...

... y parents' views and how they express them, I do believe that they are like I don't know if they're average MAGA, but I think that they are those ideas are common in the MAGA voting base. I think there are some people in MAGA that are, you know, tricked or they voted on um, you know, wanting to make things cheaper. There were like financial w ...

... lieve that they are like I don't know if they're average MAGA, but I think that they are those ideas are common in the MAGA voting base. I think there are some people in MAGA that are, you know, tricked or they voted on um, you know, wanting to make things cheaper. There were like financial whatever. I think there are some MAGA that are like ...

... some people in MAGA that are, you know, tricked or they voted on um, you know, wanting to make things cheaper. There were like financial whatever. I think there are some MAGA that are like not like my parents, but I think there are a lot that are. And I think a lot of people on the left don't know that or have never seen these views or heard ...

... that a lot of people on the left. Um, and that's part of what this podcast is for me, too. It's kind of like documenting that, saying like, "Hey, I know like we all say MAGA and no contact, but here's actually why we do need to to have some contact is so that you know this is what they're really actually thinking. And so I think for some of ...

... t probably with your dad. I think that's a typo. Would she try to keep it from him? How would he treat her? How the [ __ ] could she keep it from him if she becomes anti-Maga or gets out of the MAGA cult? I mean, she can't keep that from him. How the [ __ ] could she keep it from him? Um, I'm not sure what would happen, honestly. And I don't ...

... . I think that's a typo. Would she try to keep it from him? How would he treat her? How the [ __ ] could she keep it from him if she becomes anti-Maga or gets out of the MAGA cult? I mean, she can't keep that from him. How the [ __ ] could she keep it from him? Um, I'm not sure what would happen, honestly. And I don't think she will unless he ...

... om and then we'll see how my dad deals with it if he is still with us. Um, this is from Miracy 1. Everyone says Bob is the star of the show. Agree. I think Mirc might be MAGA. Um, I mean who's the in quote star of the show? I think we're a family and at any given time one person is, you know, saying something that make may make more sense or ...

... haracter? To me, it's my mom because that's the journey, or at least for me, it's my mom, I should say. That's the journey I'm most interested in. Can she get out of the MAGA cult? That's like what the the the kind of narrative arc of this show, at least in my head, is what it would be. Um, Mega Majes says, "Everybody tell Chad Van Lean for g ...

... e recently reposted one of our uh Instagram rails. It was a for me a great moment in life. Here is one from Matt's music sucks. Okay. I see a lot of similarities between MAGA followers and narcissists. Drawn to Trump's personality and fan base. Have you checked out narcissistic personalities or how to navigate it in your talks? I'm aware of i ...

... er? My apologies. Hi from Germany. I don't really see much of magger US politics outside the pod. So I've been asking myself how Bob and Mary Lou compared to the average MAGA person. Love the pod. That's kind of what I was talking about earlier. Yanick. Uh I think they are kind of right in the middle. I think there are people who are like cra ...

... another one. Um, Dakota Williams 491. My grandfather is currently going through dementia. Sorry to hear that. He legit relives Trump inauguration once a week. He's super MAGA, so he loves it. Well, at least he's loving it, I suppose. Yeah, that's tough though. Sorry you're going through that. Um, is that it? Is that all we have? Here's one mo ...

... h the rest of these and we already have the queue is full. So, please no more super chats. Thank you. Um, this is lore keeper red. Thank you both for what you do. My own MAGA parents cut contact with me and my sister saying that us trying to have POVs that counter Newsmax is elder abuse. Jesus hugs you both. That is [ __ ] brutal. >> Yeah. >> ...

... climb. Please, we appreciate it, but please halt your super chats. We're already beyond capacity for the amount of questions we can answer in this time. Sarah Davies PGH MAGA won't acknowledge the files are real because then they'd have to admit that they don't really care and voted for him anyways. Thoughts? I don't quite agree with this. I ...

... acknowledge the files are real because then they'd have to admit that they don't really care and voted for him anyways. Thoughts? I don't quite agree with this. I think MAGA can say we didn't know about this. I think there are some MAGA that are getting turned by this for sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> There's some news about that. >> Yeah, I've se ...

... it that they don't really care and voted for him anyways. Thoughts? I don't quite agree with this. I think MAGA can say we didn't know about this. I think there are some MAGA that are getting turned by this for sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> There's some news about that. >> Yeah, I've seen videos and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Bunkerton's up next. Hello fro ...

... m going to make her say them. Um, Kurts says, "Aloha from Hawaii. Aloha." That's also a part of Bachelor Nation. Aloha. My parents are Native Hawaiian and Asian yet mega maga. It's a >> man. Yeah, that's tough. >> Brutal. At least um You get to live in Hawaii. >> That's true. [ __ ] Hawaii. Have you been to Hawaii? >> Me? >> Yeah. >> Who? Me? ...

... n what? Imagine this. When back when we started this [ __ ] show three years ago, >> if I would have been like eventually Hassan [ __ ] is going to send dad a giant foam MAGA hat, cowboy hat and he's gonna wear it in our podcast. And the wildest part is like I don't think they quite grasp like >> Hassan [ __ ] >> They just think he's some dud ...

... psychic to see if she could get to the bottom of it. I can't wait. Uh, Jana doll. Jana. Oh, Dana. Sounds like Dana. >> Jana. >> I feel so bad for you guys. My mother is MAGA and I had to cut her off. Have you considered going no contact? Especially Haley because Chad thinks everything is fake. Anyway, [laughter] >> we did we were no contact ...

... Yeah, I'll be emo. I don't give a [ __ ] >> I can do it. I'll try. Correslone 69. Uh, your show will always hold value for me and others who don't see the very fringe of MAGA. It lets me see that not every Trump voter is an automatic writeoff. Keep pushing on. Thank you very much. We will do that. Rage nitter, thank you, Haley, for holding yo ...

... uys, I'm an only child with two mega parents. We're not American. It's impossible as a child to get through. Outside pressure is the only way. more kids should air their MAGA exchanges, texts, texts, etc. I agree. >> Yeah. I I mean part of the point of the show is exposure of MAGA beliefs cuz I think I know I have a bunch of friends that are ...

... . Outside pressure is the only way. more kids should air their MAGA exchanges, texts, texts, etc. I agree. >> Yeah. I I mean part of the point of the show is exposure of MAGA beliefs cuz I think I know I have a bunch of friends that are like you know their parents are rational leftleaning if not like you know very progressive or whatever and ...

... ou have it. That's your answer. Fuzzy. Oh, we're getting some more super chats. Please no more. Fozzy Aussie, I think your podcast has one of the best representations of MAGA thinking. I work a service position job in MAGA country and this is how they think. >> I agree. I totally agree. I think like you can say our dad is like mentally not al ...

... getting some more super chats. Please no more. Fozzy Aussie, I think your podcast has one of the best representations of MAGA thinking. I work a service position job in MAGA country and this is how they think. >> I agree. I totally agree. I think like you can say our dad is like mentally not all there or like aggressive or angry or whatever. ...

... hink. >> I agree. I totally agree. I think like you can say our dad is like mentally not all there or like aggressive or angry or whatever. I think he's like the norm in MAGA. >> Mhm. Just crazy. >> Matthew, Rob, Chad, why so little Big Brother love? Only live. >> It's the only live reality show. >> The feeds are underrated. I So little Big B ...

... sa Ray, but I'm not sure. No. Anyways, um Okay. Oh my god, there's too many super chats. I shouldn't have said anything. Please stop these super chats, please. Um, okay. MAGA in this country. Chad, big brother love. Where are we? Okay, we're right here. Anley Williams, love the pod. I'm soon to be a college grad, film major, and I'd totally e ...

... of [ __ ] to me. Yeah, right. Is it wrong to hell? I don't know. Who has another opinion? Um Northern Northern Spike 7434. Mary Lou is more evil than she realizes being MAGA. Mhm. We're trying to curb that. We're trying to get her out of it. And this is something like for what it's worth. I really view our parents and most people that are in ...

... Mhm. We're trying to curb that. We're trying to get her out of it. And this is something like for what it's worth. I really view our parents and most people that are in MAGA, maybe dad not quite as much as like victims to a system that is was designed to pray on certain uh psychological kind of temperaments, you know, that that a certain per ...

... it's gone far beyond that. And I think that it's like, you know, whatever kind of minor inclinations mom might have had or anybody else for that matter before they were MAGA, that [ __ ] is just like through the roof now and I don't really see it necessarily as like their fault. I'm not exonerating them from their opinions and their actions ...

... every turn. Um it's grotesque. But she is on the edge of seeing it, I agree. Jim and Eddie, has anyone else noticed it's been a long time since Mary Lou wore a Trump or MAGA hat? All USA or other ones. Keep going. Mhm. I haven't noticed that. She's been wearing the red hat with the American flag on it. Interesting. No MAGA. Interesting. I wo ...

... ou wore a Trump or MAGA hat? All USA or other ones. Keep going. Mhm. I haven't noticed that. She's been wearing the red hat with the American flag on it. Interesting. No MAGA. Interesting. I wonder if that's That's interesting. We'll have to check it next time we do an episode with her. I don't know if she's going to be on Wednesday or if it' ...

... ally understandable, she's dealing with a lot of [ __ ] right now. Yeah. Um And and also it's like, I don't think the overtly combative strategy is ever going to work on Maga. It's got to be like, you got to let them come to it in their time. And all we're doing is the the primary point of the show is to continue contact so that we have to ha ...

... re household. Egg Roll One, did your parents encourage imagination? Mine were very anti-fiction {slash} creative stuff and I always thought that was a that was common in MAGA homes. Not in our home. Yeah. I I felt like we were encouraged to do pretty much whatever There were like some at least for me, you you had a little bit more of a an eas ...

... but that's interesting >> [snorts] >> um that they're capable of doing that. Uh Matt Mad Senby or Mads Enby, how much of a role do you think it plays for your mom to be MAGA in order to fit in with her community? Hmm. I mean, I'm pretty sure like the people she hangs out with are all MAGA. People she hangs out with? Just driving around Oklah ...

... ch of a role do you think it plays for your mom to be MAGA in order to fit in with her community? Hmm. I mean, I'm pretty sure like the people she hangs out with are all MAGA. People she hangs out with? Just driving around Oklahoma, there's a [ __ ] like yard sign, billboard, poster with Donald Trump's [ __ ] head on it. Yeah. It's like every ...

... a-Rede Bridge, Bushmills whiskey, Giant's Causeway, tour of Derry. [clears throat] We have um I think several of those on our itinerary. Nice. Mr. Metroid 9, my mom went MAGA. MAGA to anti-Trump. I I think them sitting with the uncomfortable feelings is necessary. Also, Chad got close to astral projection the other night. Nice. Congratulation ...

... Bridge, Bushmills whiskey, Giant's Causeway, tour of Derry. [clears throat] We have um I think several of those on our itinerary. Nice. Mr. Metroid 9, my mom went MAGA. MAGA to anti-Trump. I I think them sitting with the uncomfortable feelings is necessary. Also, Chad got close to astral projection the other night. Nice. Congratulations. Kee ...

... S WE ARE JOLLY COOK. >> [screaming] >> WOWEE. I KNOW. HARLEY Roads Productions, we have quite a few Canadians here >> [cough] >> that [clears throat] I've T called maple Maga. My colleague is one and loves T. Thanks he's the greatest. Wait, what now? We have quite a few Canadians here that I've T Oh, that love Trump. I see now. Missing both t ...

... ve Trump. I see now. Missing both the O and the E on love. How am I supposed to get love out of LV, but the L also looks like a [ __ ] capital I. That ain't on me. Maple Maga. All right, cool. Thank you. Avabrar 2000 Chad, please stop doing the Trump voice when giving an insane [ __ ] he says. It makes your mom laugh at the voice and just ign ...

... se clips right now so that we have we all have a a baseline of what we're talking about. This is what Jimmy Kimmel said. You ready? >> New lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points fro ...

... giving a [ __ ] that Charlie Kirk died. >> He's like, "How you holding up? Doing great. Here's my >> the beginning of what he said. He said that the 22-year-old kid was MAGA." >> No, he didn't. >> What's What's >> No, he did not. No, he did not. What you just said right there is a lie. >> Exactly what he said. >> Okay, read it. The joke he's ...

... . >> Okay, read it. The joke he's making, the comment he's making is about Republicans trying to use Charlie Kirk's death to navigate away from the idea that that kid is MAGA. >> Here's Kimmel's exact quote because I knew you guys would try to push off. >> We literally just watched it. I played the clip. all said that the MAGA gang is despera ...

... hat that kid is MAGA. >> Here's Kimmel's exact quote because I knew you guys would try to push off. >> We literally just watched it. I played the clip. all said that the MAGA gang is desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Cook is anything other than one of them >> and doing everything they can to score political poin ...

... hing they can to score political points from it. >> Yes. >> Only in between the finger pointing there was grieving. >> That's what he stated. Number one, the kid was not MAGA. We know this. >> He didn't say he was >> say that. He didn't say he was. He said the Republicans, the MAGA gang are trying. No, listen, Mom. You're making a statement t ...

... ieving. >> That's what he stated. Number one, the kid was not MAGA. We know this. >> He didn't say he was >> say that. He didn't say he was. He said the Republicans, the MAGA gang are trying. No, listen, Mom. You're making a statement that is not accurate. >> You're saying he said that kid is MAGA. He didn't say that. >> He said the MAGA Repu ...

... dn't say he was. He said the Republicans, the MAGA gang are trying. No, listen, Mom. You're making a statement that is not accurate. >> You're saying he said that kid is MAGA. He didn't say that. >> He said the MAGA Republicans are trying to get political points and spin it so that he is not MAGA. >> Well, I don't think he should have said an ...

... the MAGA gang are trying. No, listen, Mom. You're making a statement that is not accurate. >> You're saying he said that kid is MAGA. He didn't say that. >> He said the MAGA Republicans are trying to get political points and spin it so that he is not MAGA. >> Well, I don't think he should have said anything at all. Whether you're taking it o ...

... accurate. >> You're saying he said that kid is MAGA. He didn't say that. >> He said the MAGA Republicans are trying to get political points and spin it so that he is not MAGA. >> Well, I don't think he should have said anything at all. Whether you're taking it one way, I'm taking it another. He's not a comic. He's really a sad person and he n ...

... , I should be arrested. Um, the mayor needs to shut me down and run me out of town. They emailed my landlord trying to get my lease null and void. Uh, an entire group of MAGA in my town is actively trying to get me shut down. Uh, I didn't even I didn't even post anything. >> No, not legally. I didn't even post anything on my [ __ ] Hive page. ...

... e fact that he was vile, >> right? And so >> I totally disagree, but go on. >> We know you disagree. So this all happens. JD Vance comes out and tells all the right-wing MAGA followers, turn in your fellow neighbors if they have said anything against our beautiful martyr, Charlie Kirk. That's now happening to Haley, your daughter. >> Dad, how ...

... l read my little thing here. >> Haley, have your sales gone down or have they gone up? >> No, I So, my my fan base, the people that patronize my business have never been MAGA. Never. Not a single day since we've been open for seven years. It's always been >> Well, then it shouldn't bother you. like a like-minded community, you know, and they ...

... d came and then came back an hour later with no one aboard but someone got in it and left. At first they said these texts, you know, they're trying to say, "Well, he was MAGA." Then they're trying to say, "No, he's left." Then they say, "Who cares?" Then they said, "He did it out of love." Have you seen Montel Williams stating, "Oh, these tex ...

... e're going to We will get there. I promise you. Sarah Davies PGH. Have you ever asked Mary Lou what Biden did to open the border after he inherited it from Donald Trump? Maga can't ever seem to pinpoint that. #willbepnu. I Have we asked her that? We must have. Um, back probably There's going to be an episode or two. I don't know if we were on ...

... ut they are my parents. That's the nature of family. Um it's me 122. What do you think it'll actually take for Mary Lou to go against Trump and officially get out of the MAGA cult at this point? Seems like she is so close. It's going to be Ghislaine Maxwell, I'm telling you. He's going to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell in the next week or two. And ...

... at artist as well. Don't worry. Hunt and Farm, do you think your mother is an intelligent person? Yeah, I mean, like this is the the question that you have to ask of any MAGA really. Are people that are like real true blue MAGA the ones who are like believe in Trump are they smart people? And I think it is a spectrum like anything else. I don ...

... think your mother is an intelligent person? Yeah, I mean, like this is the the question that you have to ask of any MAGA really. Are people that are like real true blue MAGA the ones who are like believe in Trump are they smart people? And I think it is a spectrum like anything else. I don't think being like brainwashed means that you're a s ...

... I wouldn't like Trump. We'll see. Maybe he'll talk to me." Could be. Lake the Tattoer, have you read or heard of The Body Keeps the Score? I think your parents and most MAGA have complex PTSD. I have I've read that, but I'm sure. I'm I mean, if you watch those couple episodes where we had a therapist on, my dad basically is is saying that ou ...

... essman. We had a guy who um Our first guest was the dude who ran the Florida Republican Party for a minute. We had my parents' friend on, Jules, who is both under 30 and MAGA. But yeah, of course, I I would have political candidates on. Oop. I see we've hit our super chat limit. I'm going to turn them off. Thank you very much for everybody wh ...

... lise 1954, do you think we'll ever see the real Epstein files? I do. Well, look, here's here's the deal. Here's the real question you're asking, in my opinion. Is Trump, MAGA, ultimate corruption at the highest level in American politics here to stay forever? Is it over now? Is democracy done or not? If we still have democratic elections, and ...

... rican politics here to stay forever? Is it over now? Is democracy done or not? If we still have democratic elections, and if Trump is out, if the Republicans are out, if MAGA is out in the next election, the whoever the Democrat is that wins, yeah, they'll release them all, I think, unless that person is also in them, and and that could be to ...

... e than Trump. Trump is like trying to enact those views in the world. I I think like I don't think my dad is This is something that I struggle with. Is my dad an average MAGA or is he a crazy MAGA? I don't know. At this point I don't know. Anybody who's still MAGA after all the [ __ ] we're seeing has to be like my dad. They've got to be down ...

... like trying to enact those views in the world. I I think like I don't think my dad is This is something that I struggle with. Is my dad an average MAGA or is he a crazy MAGA? I don't know. At this point I don't know. Anybody who's still MAGA after all the [ __ ] we're seeing has to be like my dad. They've got to be down with him saying he's ...

... 't think my dad is This is something that I struggle with. Is my dad an average MAGA or is he a crazy MAGA? I don't know. At this point I don't know. Anybody who's still MAGA after all the [ __ ] we're seeing has to be like my dad. They've got to be down with him saying he's going to commit a genocide in Iran. That's MAGA now. So, it's like i ...

... Anybody who's still MAGA after all the [ __ ] we're seeing has to be like my dad. They've got to be down with him saying he's going to commit a genocide in Iran. That's MAGA now. So, it's like is are his views more extreme than Trump? I don't think so. I think they're right in line. Thor underscore underscore 2177 I've noticed similarities b ...

... No. No. >> Just big iguana? They look like Godzilla. Extra large Godzilla iguana? All right. Galapagos. >> WinzyB257, Mary Lou, will you and Bob eat crow when Trump and Maga die? Probably. >> called marine iguanas. Marine iguanas, they look like a goddamn [ __ ] They look like Godzilla. Gary Kaiser, thank you very much. Chad's blue camo fit, ...

... deter me from wanting to listen to their music, watch their movies, etc. Chris Pratt, [ __ ] you. I don't want to watch any of his movies. Why? Why? He's like alt-right Maga. Is he really? Yeah, so they talked like mad [ __ ] about his kid with a disability. I thought he bargained with Jesus to save the kid and then said, "If you save my son ...

... aid, "If you save my son, I'll be Christian forever." And so the son lived, and this is my understanding of it. And so now he's super Christian. He's super Christian and Maga. What's what >> He's like married to [ __ ] Schwarzenegger's Schwarzenegger's daughter. >> Right. But he was married to Anna Faris. Anna Faris, yeah. Um my answer is dep ...

... er task you complete for the day? Oh, [ __ ] I wish she was here for that. That's a good question. Dominique Galicia, I'm so proud of the No Kings protest. Same. I had a MAGA mom follow me into the bakery on Tuesday morning when I literally opened the door to go inside and um she startled the [ __ ] out of me and said, "Excuse me, are you on ...

... or to go inside and um she startled the [ __ ] out of me and said, "Excuse me, are you on that podcast?" And I said, "Yeah." >> And she goes, "Well, I am" she didn't say MAGA, I don't know what she said, and she goes, "My 16-year-old is a huge fan of your podcast. I'm MAGA, he's not, and it has opened up dialogue for us and we now talk about ...

... ast?" And I said, "Yeah." >> And she goes, "Well, I am" she didn't say MAGA, I don't know what she said, and she goes, "My 16-year-old is a huge fan of your podcast. I'm MAGA, he's not, and it has opened up dialogue for us and we now talk about things that we never did before and she said it makes me rethink how I see the world." That's [ __ ...

... Trump? To hurt animals, please. Look at overseas media for another opinion. What's MX? Michelle Love, Michelle Love kiss hug. The Drifting Druid back at it again. PSA to MAGA, we were not paid to attend No Kings. I'm an introvert. The last thing I want to do on a Saturday is hang out in a crowd. I've been employed and paid all my bills since ...

... this. I I I think the some of the progress I think that is being made with my mom is her kind of like coming to accept or be a little more comfortable with the idea that MAGA doesn't like without that as part of her personality, it's okay Yeah. to let that fall by the wayside. Jim Minetti, April Fools right around the corner. Please, Bob inne ...

... ted money for vets. He names things for himself, but uses our money. 100% correct. Angelina Fontanez, "It's sad Mary Lou thinks her kids will steer her wrong. She trusts MAGA more than the kids she raised. Why is that? I promise your kids care more than Trump." That's something that I we've tried to come at that line of reasoning, too. It's l ...

... at just to kind of like demonize anybody who is not on paper American. But it's like on paper Americans [ __ ] kill they do all kinds of horrible [ __ ] Well, that's the MAGA MO. They're doing it now with trans people, like trans women in the Olympics. There's like five athletes total in the last 50 years of the Olympics that were trans women ...

... t is." And then it's like, "Oh my god, we need to kill them, get rid of them." Whatever the the thing may be. And that's like one of the kind of most effective ways that MAGA governs their kind of rabid fanbase is by always having that target, that enemy that you need to be attacking, fearing trying to eliminate from existence. Of course. All ...

... e >> James. luscious locks. James. I love James. Me, too. Yeah, that show's great. Lenny Lace, wishing Mary Lou and Bob could be libs one app and Chad and Haley could be MAGA like the Enemies Project tried to say last week, but failed. Nah. Yeah, I don't want to do that. Hentai Shinshi 666 The reason I don't want to do that is because it's li ...

... h, but there are for her. Shannon DeKane 9256 Mary Lou mentioned Jesse on fire and he might be a great opportunity for a breakthrough intel. He's more America first than Maga and criticizes Trump regarding money to Israel and foreign wars. And knowing of the Epstein files and Maga tribalism. Okay, yeah, I you know, I'm down to put people like ...

... rtunity for a breakthrough intel. He's more America first than Maga and criticizes Trump regarding money to Israel and foreign wars. And knowing of the Epstein files and Maga tribalism. Okay, yeah, I you know, I'm down to put people like Maga people on the show if that will make my parents feel better. We've had a couple. They they have they ...

... and criticizes Trump regarding money to Israel and foreign wars. And knowing of the Epstein files and Maga tribalism. Okay, yeah, I you know, I'm down to put people like Maga people on the show if that will make my parents feel better. We've had a couple. They they have they like miss the membership though. You know, all we ever have is liber ...

... shington, Mary Lou knows the truth about Trump. I think it's more about how it how it would affect relationship with Bob if she switched. Please get someone from Leaving Maga on the pod. Let me write that one down. >> [snorts] >> Leaving Maga. As long as they're over 30. Dukie Ryan, what Magic Gathering format do you play? I'm getting into Le ...

... out how it how it would affect relationship with Bob if she switched. Please get someone from Leaving Maga on the pod. Let me write that one down. >> [snorts] >> Leaving Maga. As long as they're over 30. Dukie Ryan, what Magic Gathering format do you play? I'm getting into Legacy. Commander is primarily what I play, but I am starting to look ...

... finitely thought about that guy. There's a bunch of people I'd love to have on, but at this point it's this kind of delicate dance of like oh, well now we have to have a MAGA person on because my parents are pissed about that and it's also kind of like difficult to book. I'm I'm going to have some more people on though. I think we're in a goo ...

... hirt is. Catherine Perry H4Y, please tell your mom Catholics believe in caring for the poor. The Good Samaritan, Trump's religion is wealth and power and her religion is MAGA. Christian charity extends to all people, not just the US Americans. We have had this conversation with her many times, my sister and I. It it does not stick. >> [snorts ...

... s so [ __ ] good. Irene Smith 19921, please please consider benching Bob. Not only her his opinion is abhorrent, but he derails all conversations. Let Mary Lou find a co-MAGA to be her partner. We replace my dad with just some random co-MAGA? I mean, the whole point of the show is that these conversations are difficult. Um not just because we ...

... g Bob. Not only her his opinion is abhorrent, but he derails all conversations. Let Mary Lou find a co-MAGA to be her partner. We replace my dad with just some random co-MAGA? I mean, the whole point of the show is that these conversations are difficult. Um not just because we're ideologically opposed, but because the manner in which my fathe ...

... in it. I think all these things are elements of it, but I think the biggest thing is like owning the libs. I think that's their bread and butter. That's like why they're MAGA. Is because they don't like anything that's woke. Um and so they have to be MAGA. Tess Irish 1201 Also, his behavior is likely pride that was violently instilled in his ...

... is like owning the libs. I think that's their bread and butter. That's like why they're MAGA. Is because they don't like anything that's woke. Um and so they have to be MAGA. Tess Irish 1201 Also, his behavior is likely pride that was violently instilled in his childhood. And with more pushback, he just digs in deeper. Um yeah, maybe. Maybe. ...

... 265, "Chow, how how do you main in Overwatch?" I think you mean who who do I main? Junkrat for life. Um Okay. What is this one? Bow doesn't mind. Chad, did you know that Maga is literally the name of the highest degree in the Church of Satan? >> [laughter] >> True. No. I did not know that. Oh my [ __ ] god. Um Oh, here's here's something. Spe ...

... g him. >> Too scared to debate a younger person voting age, mind you. Exactly. >> No experience. No, we weren't scared. >> He has ye literal years of experience debating MAGA people. >> That's his job. Literally. >> And he literally knew nothing about the Vietnam War either. So >> he told you all about the Vietnam War? No, he didn't know who ...

... w old's Jules? >> 35. >> That's wrong. >> 25. >> She said Yeah. She said she was 25 or 26. I remember. So, you guys had somebody under 30 come on, but we can't. >> Minor MAGA. >> Now, we're getting to the the point here. If I had an older MAGA, I would bring them on. >> Okay. But what the bottom line is this. Dad said nobody under 30. You guy ...

... aid she was 25 or 26. I remember. So, you guys had somebody under 30 come on, but we can't. >> Minor MAGA. >> Now, we're getting to the the point here. If I had an older MAGA, I would bring them on. >> Okay. But what the bottom line is this. Dad said nobody under 30. You guys already broke that rule. >> These are dad's rules. No, dad made tha ...

... n don't pay for it anymore. Use that money for something else. >> Melanie Howard, how's Jules? Why was it okay for her her to be on? We just addressed that because she's MAGA. >> Cuz she's my best. That is the double. >> No limits. >> She's my best friend. No limits on my best friend. >> No limits, just dreams. >> Alex is Abbott. So when they ...

... t like what he said. That is the truth. >> Mike Mercier, thank you very much. Uh, hate stairs. Wasn't Maryl's friend also in her 20s? Yes, double standard much. Exactly. MAGA is the the king of double standard. >> I have friends. I only have two or three friends. So, she will be on the show if she wants to come back. >> No, I refuse. I quit t ...

... osed to represent. When these don't align, where do you stand going with the institution leads to fascism? Mom, >> the institution or the people? >> Basically saying, is MAGA more important to you than the human beings that MAGA is affecting? >> No. >> Okay. David Mafy. Bob can't handle the truth. Can't handle the debate. Sorry. Bob can't han ...

... u stand going with the institution leads to fascism? Mom, >> the institution or the people? >> Basically saying, is MAGA more important to you than the human beings that MAGA is affecting? >> No. >> Okay. David Mafy. Bob can't handle the truth. Can't handle the debate. Sorry. Bob can't handle true debate. Jesus. Respect is earned. Maryl, I ag ...

... half to four months to learn it. >> LCPL Gans, I thought liberals were supposed to be the snowflakes. Bob and Mary Lou seemed to be a little whiners today. Yes, indeed. MAGA is the biggest snowflakes on [ __ ] planet Earth. >> Yeah. >> Hey, Kazuko. Mary Lou, if there was credible evidence that Trump hurt children and Bob still supported him, ...

... of having Dean Withers on the show? Zero. Cuz he's under 30. >> No, we have to get him on. >> You can't talk to him. You guys >> No, the whole Dean Withers also debates MAGA people. The whole point of having him on be to debate >> I want Hassan [ __ ] >> You know what? Actually, I think Dean Withers is 30 years old. >> Oh, look at that. Look ...

... >> That blows my mind that people all over are watching us. I don't know why. I just >> like to play >> like to play >> people in Oklahoma watching Texas. >> Wasn't the MAGA friend that Mary Lou had on a few weeks ago in her 20s? Yes, >> we have covered that. >> No. 31. >> Um, this is from the Terresa Dopplinger 5995. Hey >> y'all just wante ...

... elines? People look at things eg good and >> uh pretty murder vids and see two completely different realities. Thoughts. I mean, parallel timelines. You're thinking like MAGA and non-MAGA are living in the same space-time environment but somehow in two different maybe psychological timelines. Possible [ __ ] I don't know. Anything's possible. ...

... e look at things eg good and >> uh pretty murder vids and see two completely different realities. Thoughts. I mean, parallel timelines. You're thinking like MAGA and non-MAGA are living in the same space-time environment but somehow in two different maybe psychological timelines. Possible [ __ ] I don't know. Anything's possible. >> There's a ...

... th me is my sister. We are both liberals. Horrible lefty pile of [ __ ] liberals. And with us today is our parents, Bob and Mary Lou. You can tell by my mom's hat. She's MAGA. And so is my dad. Before we began, Dad, last week your behavior was incredibly unruly. You were very mean, interrupting everybody constantly. I received more DMs about ...

... ly within a 30 mile radius of Marylu and Bob. Um I guess my question is just uh I guess I can flip it both ways, but um do y'all have friends or partners that have these MAGA beliefs? If and also if your parents weren't your parents, would you associate yourself with them? Because I have many MAGA family members. I just don't talk to them. I ...

... 'all have friends or partners that have these MAGA beliefs? If and also if your parents weren't your parents, would you associate yourself with them? Because I have many MAGA family members. I just don't talk to them. I don't see them. Uh they only bring negative energy and I just can't be around that. And I don't have MAGA friends. I my part ...

... ecause I have many MAGA family members. I just don't talk to them. I don't see them. Uh they only bring negative energy and I just can't be around that. And I don't have MAGA friends. I my partner is not MAGA. I try not to associate with MAGA. Um so I guess yeah, the question is and I guess on the flip side, Mary Lou and Bob, do you have frie ...

... bers. I just don't talk to them. I don't see them. Uh they only bring negative energy and I just can't be around that. And I don't have MAGA friends. I my partner is not MAGA. I try not to associate with MAGA. Um so I guess yeah, the question is and I guess on the flip side, Mary Lou and Bob, do you have friends that are Democrats? Do you do ...

... don't see them. Uh they only bring negative energy and I just can't be around that. And I don't have MAGA friends. I my partner is not MAGA. I try not to associate with MAGA. Um so I guess yeah, the question is and I guess on the flip side, Mary Lou and Bob, do you have friends that are Democrats? Do you do you associate yourself with Democr ...

... anybody in your life other than me and Haley Democrat? >> Um, >> yeah. >> Or liberal? >> I'm sure of it. >> No, everybody I hang out with uh everybody I hang out with is MAGA. >> Yeah. >> From age 20. I have 25 year old friends. Um, all MAGA. >> But mom, you have you have a family member that is definitely liberalleaning. >> But she started o ...

... ah. >> Or liberal? >> I'm sure of it. >> No, everybody I hang out with uh everybody I hang out with is MAGA. >> Yeah. >> From age 20. I have 25 year old friends. Um, all MAGA. >> But mom, you have you have a family member that is definitely liberalleaning. >> But she started out MAGA. Now she's liberal. >> And I still love her. That's fine. > ...

... > Yeah. >> From age 20. I have 25 year old friends. Um, all MAGA. >> But mom, you have you have a family member that is definitely liberalleaning. >> But she started out MAGA. Now she's liberal. >> And I still love her. That's fine. >> Like you're you're quite close with her. >> Yeah. And we talk we talk politics. It doesn't bug me when she s ...

... ite close with her. >> Yeah. And we talk we talk politics. It doesn't bug me when she says something that I don't believe. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh Haley, do you have any MAGA friends? >> I do. Um, we don't well we don't talk about politics. It's >> so when all of the when Donald Trump became president the first time around um >> I guess we di ...

... uaintances and there are some like extended family of people that are in my life in my closer circle um but everybody my good friends my girlfriend >> no one is remotely MAGA no one everybody voted for Kla Harris everybody hates Donald Trump >> um >> oh my gosh see I couldn't hang with you uh >> you're doing it right now I hope that answered ...

... nd of innately curious about reality. I think if you if you are approaching this existence with curiosity and a desire to like learn things about stuff, you cannot >> be MAGA. You cannot fall prey to those things because you're innately skeptical of anything anyone tells you. And if you can see through the thing as [ __ ] then it is not going ...

... sh this relationship with our parents, which we've already kind of talked about is happening, >> but also to document what I firmly believe is like the average view of a MAGA voter. I I think there are a lot of liberal people who do not know what goes on in the minds of MAGA. And when you have parents who are uh MAGA, you know, it's like we d ...

... also to document what I firmly believe is like the average view of a MAGA voter. I I think there are a lot of liberal people who do not know what goes on in the minds of MAGA. And when you have parents who are uh MAGA, you know, it's like we do know. We we talk to them. And I think it's important for people who don't get like this is how they ...

... ike the average view of a MAGA voter. I I think there are a lot of liberal people who do not know what goes on in the minds of MAGA. And when you have parents who are uh MAGA, you know, it's like we do know. We we talk to them. And I think it's important for people who don't get like this is how they think. >> You know, our dad is talking abo ...

... the [ __ ] that they've done. Uh, so I think on a state level, like people need to be prosecuted because some of this [ __ ] is criminal. >> Mhm. >> So I don't know. Uh, MAGA supporters, I think it ends when Donald Trump ends. I think they just kind of like fizzle out and dissipate and like I'm I'm a Republican. >> I'll vote Republican on a t ...

... Donald Trump ends. I think they just kind of like fizzle out and dissipate and like I'm I'm a Republican. >> I'll vote Republican on a ticket. But I think like the whole MAGA persona like it dies when he dies. >> I totally agree. I like I don't think JD Vance is going to be able to sell millions of dollars worth of sneakers and cologne. >> Oh ...

... ver she touches because that fan base is like if it's Taylor Swift, I love it. It doesn't matter. >> How do they feel or how do you feel about Travis Kelce's uh supposed MAGA connections? >> I don't I hate Patrick Mahomes. >> Like his wife has come out and said like some racist [ __ ] >> and he's [ __ ] black. I was like are >> Jesus Christ. ...

... and said like some racist [ __ ] >> and he's [ __ ] black. I was like are >> Jesus Christ. like his wife is racist and they have children together. >> Um, and like she's MAGA and all this [ __ ] So like yeah, gross. [ __ ] disgusting. Travis Kelsey and like the kicker, >> that [ __ ] kicker talking about like you belong in the kitchen pregnan ...

... know. Sometimes you got to like clean cut, let people go. But I don't think he can because he's on a team with him. But she can't either because half of her fan base is MAGA. >> Are they? >> You don't think there's MAGA people that buy her [ __ ] >> I don't know because she has during the when the election was going on because she endorsed K ...

... t people go. But I don't think he can because he's on a team with him. But she can't either because half of her fan base is MAGA. >> Are they? >> You don't think there's MAGA people that buy her [ __ ] >> I don't know because she has during the when the election was going on because she endorsed Kla Harris. I felt like she lost that whole gro ...

... se of it. Like hate >> That's right. You're right. She lost dad. Dad was a >> Swift and mom was like, I don't know. So, I feel like she completely [ __ ] just diminished MAGA. They don't they don't like Taylor Swift. >> And I've been to her concert and it is not >> it doesn't feel conservative at all. Like it's the girls and the gays period. ...

... d the gays period. Little kids and like their dads and [ __ ] Like there aren't any, >> you know, Trump paraphernalia at a Taylor Swift concert. >> Oh, maybe she's not a MAGA. Um, well, that is going to conclude this episode. Thank you for doing this with me. I hope that next week we're going to have mom and dad back on hopefully and potentia ...

... . This is Miray. >> Uh one today you said every once in a while DJT pops off and does something good. We know you are a bachelor strategist. Is this a play to infiltrate MAGA? [laughter] >> I never seen one. There are things every once in a while. I remember his first term, didn't he do something with he let a lot of people out of jail >> tha ...

... ht. GMA's Beauty 3439 says, "Mary Lou, can you explain why Trump is not guilty like Clinton? Besides, I believe so. Much love, Chad and Haley. I use these combos with my MAGA mom and dad." >> We talked about that earlier. Yeah. I don't know. I in my brain, I just think Clinton has done a lot worse than Donald Trump has. [clears throat] >> Cli ...

... rine Perry says, "MA believes the ends justify the means. It might feel satisfying, but human rights are trampled in the process." Hello. >> What? I don't even get that. MAGA believes. >> I see that number going up. Please, I once again, I appreciate all the donations. Please stop sending them. [laughter] We're trying to get through all these ...

... [laughter] We're trying to get through all these. I see the numbers going up. Just please stop. >> It's because I'm here. We're making a little money for my alpha alpha. MAGA believes the ends justify the means. Yes, it [snorts] does. It might feel satisfying, but human rights are trampled in the process. >> If you do not have citizenship, yo ...

... >> Okay. >> Caleb, >> thought it was >> Kamik 4096. Thank you very much. Uh, Michael Pace 6427. Maryl, is there anything Don J. Trump could do that would make you leave MAGA? Also, why do you keep watching Newsmax Fox after they lost their misinformation lawsuit? Um, we've talked about is there anything that Donald Trump could do that would ...

... you keep watching Newsmax Fox after they lost their misinformation lawsuit? Um, we've talked about is there anything that Donald Trump could do that would make me leave MAGA? Um, I don't know if it would make me leave MAGA, but I it would make me hate him if he was a sexual predator and did things to children. Yes. >> Okay. Um, little Josh M ...

... eir misinformation lawsuit? Um, we've talked about is there anything that Donald Trump could do that would make me leave MAGA? Um, I don't know if it would make me leave MAGA, but I it would make me hate him if he was a sexual predator and did things to children. Yes. >> Okay. Um, little Josh Minecraft says, "Hello, culture family. I wanted t ...

... ountry. It does not mean to stand by the president." Theodore Roosevelt said that. I would argue that liberals who hate Trump can love their country as much or more than MAGA. Mom, you disagree with that? We we talked about that a few episodes ago. >> Yeah, we talked about that. Um, Magazma says, "Question from Mary Lou. What major cities and ...

... few episodes ago. >> Yeah, we talked about that. Um, Magazma says, "Question from Mary Lou. What major cities and countries are safe to visit in 2025? PS. My name is not MAGA related. I made this account in 2005." [laughter] [gasps] >> Well, >> what cities do you think are safe, Mom? >> What? [snorts] Within the United States? Anything that's ...

... Honestly, >> not honestly. Probably. [laughter] >> All right, giant movie nerd. Thank you very much. Uh M13 Haley, I've already asked Chad, but do you think Marylu is as MAGA as she thinks she is, or do you think it's more so an environmental influence thing, like what she likes of uh like what she likes of California on Chad? Thanks. >> We w ...

... my sister Haley Pope we are Lefty she's the one who's got her cell phone lighting there lighting her like a ghoul and my parents are also with us they are uh right-wing Maga Q andon deep in the hole we are trying to repair our family's Relationships by forcing conversation about the biggest political issues let me thr one little C in your de ...

... g to repair our family's Relationships by forcing conversation about the biggest political issues let me thr one little C in your description of us we are no longer just Maga we are full-blown revolutionists full-blown revolutionists what do that take it means we're going to take over the country and get rid of Democrats okay let Chad speak g ...

... d say that these are kind of more traditional kind of politician career politician type people right who weren't going to do it it's the ones who got him ousted were the Maga Republicans so and they won right but there are a lot of people okay so there are a lot of people now there8 okay so there's a lot well I don't know if that's true but u ...

... so there's a lot well I don't know if that's true but uh oh I do there's a lot of people now the Republican Party who see this they didn't want him oued and they see the Maga Republicans as flies in the ointment that it's these [ __ ] are [ __ ] up the whole Republican agenda with their dumb [ __ ] is that gonna carry over McCarthy Had No Age ...

... months when all this [ __ ] comes to fruition nobody's gonna vote for a Democrat I don't think that's right I think it's already been it's already been established like Maga is Maga no one else is joining the C it is what it is like numbers are not going to continue to grow because the lunacy is just getting out of hand the lunac is all on y ...

... when all this [ __ ] comes to fruition nobody's gonna vote for a Democrat I don't think that's right I think it's already been it's already been established like Maga is Maga no one else is joining the C it is what it is like numbers are not going to continue to grow because the lunacy is just getting out of hand the lunac is all on your side ...

... joining the C it is what it is like numbers are not going to continue to grow because the lunacy is just getting out of hand the lunac is all on your side of the [ __ ] Maga is set the numbers will not grow what exists now is what will exist tomorrow and the day after how come they are growing they're not haly's Trump no she's not the the ok ...

... at I think is going to happen in this presidential election I think stuff like this it paints a picture of these the minority of the Republican parties is these Hardline Maga Republicans are taking taking the whole party hostage now and I think the general Republican electorate is not that it's not Maga I think a lot of people voted for Trump ...

... he Republican parties is these Hardline Maga Republicans are taking taking the whole party hostage now and I think the general Republican electorate is not that it's not Maga I think a lot of people voted for Trump that were just generally Republican because it wasn't the Democrat we've seen four years of that and we're seeing now how it's af ...

... ess I need what's happening to me what is happening to me I don't understand what he's even talking what's happening to Chad mag has grown million oh mag has last months Maga in the last six months has grown by 20 minut how does that affect me why is that something happening to me he said it's happening under your nose and you don't even see ...

... o have been created and maintained by Jeffrey Epste, this week, the FBI and the DOJ announced there is in fact no Epstein list. The news sent shock waves through Trump's MAGA base who felt like they were betrayed by Trump and his loyalists. Deputy director of the FBI, conspiracy theorist podcaster Dan Bonino is rumored to be considering resig ...

... t. And two of Trump's most important enforcers, AG Pam Bondi and FBI director Cash Patel have lost all credibility with right-wing influencers and thought leaders in the MAGA movement. In February, Bondi said in a Fox News interview that the Epstein list was sitting on her desk awaiting review. This week, she said it does not exist. Before be ...

... countries, you know, to use against them to get information for us. What about that theory? >> Yeah, maybe. But the bottom line is everybody the whole a big push in the MAGA movement was this idea that Trump was going to come in there and be completely transparent about all of these different government conspiracy theories. Epstein is one of ...

... es out. Um let me ask this question. We will start again with Representative Cneros. Whether this client list is real or not, what do you think is the damage done to the MAGA movement? Steve Bannon just came out a couple days ago and said he thinks this is going to bleed off 10% of the MAGA voters. >> Well, you know, it's a loss in credibilit ...

... or not, what do you think is the damage done to the MAGA movement? Steve Bannon just came out a couple days ago and said he thinks this is going to bleed off 10% of the MAGA voters. >> Well, you know, it's a loss in credibility, right? It's you say you're going to do this and Donald Trump said he was going to release the list. It was going t ...

... t to I don't know. >> But uh there are definitely strange circumstances surrounding that file specifically. Mom though, let me ask you this. Bannon again says 10% of the MAGA base is going to hemorrhage off because of this. Are you part of that? Will you still vote for Trump? How important is this issue to you as a MAGA voter? >> Does it make ...

... again says 10% of the MAGA base is going to hemorrhage off because of this. Are you part of that? Will you still vote for Trump? How important is this issue to you as a MAGA voter? >> Does it make you question other [ __ ] >> It makes me It makes me question Yes, it does. >> It makes you question other [ __ ] that they maybe have been lying ...

... him in some kind of uh bad liability situation or the truth is it never existed in the first place. Either way, >> there is, I think, irreparable damage now done to the MAGA base because of a conspiracy theory. That is wild to me that this is the thing that might finally crack through. You mom even said yourself, you're now questioning Trump ...

... be a central issue of why they even voted for Trump in the first place. And it may do real damage to, >> you know, I I hesitate to say the Republican party, but like the MAGA movement within the Republican party. >> I want to see the Kennedy files, too, and understand all of that. Well, we live >> we live in a culture where people feed on lik ...

... o this. They they stamp the word Trump on the hamburger buns. Yes. And it's not always Trump. He uh during the election before he was elected, he had Trump Vance. He had MAGA wins. And then when the day we were there, it was Trump. Different proTrump phrases. Here's a an image of my dad with little Mike there. The most kind man, the restauran ...

... iot. Here is a picture of all of you together. Yep. Little Mike Bers. OKC. We love him and his food. Mom, you printed on that image. That's our friend Jules. And she's a MAGA, too. Huge MAGA. And she's young. She's like 25. Was the good? What? Was the food good? Excellent. Tell them what you had. There's mom enjoying her. But what prank was i ...

... icture of all of you together. Yep. Little Mike Bers. OKC. We love him and his food. Mom, you printed on that image. That's our friend Jules. And she's a MAGA, too. Huge MAGA. And she's young. She's like 25. Was the good? What? Was the food good? Excellent. Tell them what you had. There's mom enjoying her. But what prank was it? Trump burger. ...

... We supposedly have hearsay evidence and you got to let's move on. Make a decision what you believe. Well, let me ask you this. Why Why are you so afraid to claim him as MAGA? Don't you think what he did was a heroic act? Well, people just No, it just shows. Dad does. Dad likes that. No, I love it. Oh my god. So then why not claim him as MAGA ...

... MAGA? Don't you think what he did was a heroic act? Well, people just No, it just shows. Dad does. Dad likes that. No, I love it. Oh my god. So then why not claim him as MAGA? I would, but he's not. Wow. Can't claim him to be something he's not. And mom, you don't think he is either? No, I think he's a Democrat. Why would he have shot Why wou ...

... he had sided, what I read, she had voted with some Republicans on a certain thing that they didn't want her to vote on. Okay. So, poppity pop. He was terrible. Christian MAGA and [ __ ] insane. What? He was a right-wing conservative Christian maja and [ __ ] insane. There's videos of him giving sermons at these big Christian rallies, but he a ...

... you care if you give a [ __ ] that I've done my job. I don't give a sh I don't give a rat's ass [ __ ] about anybody that lives in California. Even Trump voters, fellow MAGA. Well, if they vote if they vote against me, they're just as bad as the rest of them. They don't. They're voting with you. These are MAGA voters is what I'm saying. Ther ...

... rnia. Even Trump voters, fellow MAGA. Well, if they vote if they vote against me, they're just as bad as the rest of them. They don't. They're voting with you. These are MAGA voters is what I'm saying. There are MAGA that live in California. Yeah. Not very many, though. That's what I was going to ask. I don't want I don't want Trump to give C ...

... , if they vote if they vote against me, they're just as bad as the rest of them. They don't. They're voting with you. These are MAGA voters is what I'm saying. There are MAGA that live in California. Yeah. Not very many, though. That's what I was going to ask. I don't want I don't want Trump to give California a [ __ ] red scent. Okay. Regard ...

... force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. Today is a very special episode. Not only are my mom and dad deep in the QAnon Maga hole with us, not only is my sister, fellow lefty, with us, we have a very special guest. Parker Get a Job is here to debate my parents. >> [laughter] >> But Thanks for ...

... laughter] >> But Thanks for joining us, Parker. Good to see y'all. Good to see y'all. Okay. >> He's a loser. Okay. >> Wait, why am I a loser? What? Cuz you're you're not Maga. That makes you a loser. Okay. >> Okay. What Why do you Why do you think that we have to be Maga? Well, because if you're not Maga, the odds that you live in your mom's ...

... 's a loser. Okay. >> Wait, why am I a loser? What? Cuz you're you're not Maga. That makes you a loser. Okay. >> Okay. What Why do you Why do you think that we have to be Maga? Well, because if you're not Maga, the odds that you live in your mom's basement and you're 25 years old is pretty good. Well, I live in my own apartment that I pay for ...

... I a loser? What? Cuz you're you're not Maga. That makes you a loser. Okay. >> Okay. What Why do you Why do you think that we have to be Maga? Well, because if you're not Maga, the odds that you live in your mom's basement and you're 25 years old is pretty good. Well, I live in my own apartment that I pay for myself. Yeah, there's one of us. > ...

... rs in Oklahoma City. He's on Facebook. He's also online. You can get his um his merch online. Okay. Uh do I need to give his phone >> Yeah, and everybody in his store is MAGA. Yeah. Which is more than 20%. What's my buddy's name? Who? You know, cowboy hat. We should get It's on Paxtons. Cowboy hat >> [laughter] >> Paxton. Yeah, that's my dad ...

... hat's my buddy's name? Who? You know, cowboy hat. We should get It's on Paxtons. Cowboy hat >> [laughter] >> Paxton. Yeah, that's my dad my dad has this uh big styrofoam MAGA cowboy hat that Hasan [ __ ] sent to him. So Yeah, there he's going to wear it now. Okay. >> Oh my gosh, Hasan sent it to him? I didn't even I thought that was a just a ...

... he's going to wear it now. Okay. >> Oh my gosh, Hasan sent it to him? I didn't even I thought that was a just a separate one. No, he sent it to him. So you're like ultra MAGA. You're like Yeah. >> big cowboy hat. Have you Have you worn that in public yet? Yes. What? No. When does Dad even go in public? He's worn it worn it twice. We went to W ...

... net. >> [laughter] >> Okay. This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter Eligibility Act. >> you are all going to be happy the minute your mother stood up for Maga in about 10 years. Okay. Let Chad talk. >> This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter >> your [ __ ] down there. This week the House passed >> long enough t ...

... if he's got dementia, if he's got whatever he's got going on, he has a bunch of other health problems, too. All of that contributes to who he is as a person, which is a MAGA voter. And that's what our show is about is is to some degree giving like uh what I believe is an accurate representation of the average mind of the MAGA voter in our pa ...

... son, which is a MAGA voter. And that's what our show is about is is to some degree giving like uh what I believe is an accurate representation of the average mind of the MAGA voter in our parents. Denny P3016 says, "You guys watch football? If yes, what team are you guys supporting?" I don't watch. I haven't watched anything this season. Um, ...

... r parents that had been fractured because of American political views. >> Yeah. But generally speaking on a broader scale I think the conversation between people who are MAGA and not MAGA must happen or the country remains fractured. So for me like ignoring the other side uh you know deplatforming them whatever all of that I get it. And some ...

... t had been fractured because of American political views. >> Yeah. But generally speaking on a broader scale I think the conversation between people who are MAGA and not MAGA must happen or the country remains fractured. So for me like ignoring the other side uh you know deplatforming them whatever all of that I get it. And some people that's ...

... e's the deal. Here's the deal. And I think this doesn't just apply to our mom. This applies to a lot of people. >> Mhm. >> There is they build an identity around the the MAGA thing, the Trump support. And that identity is based on being correct because he's doing horrible [ __ ] people getting shot in the face whether you think it was justifi ...

... for Minnesota, he'd be flying the stars and bars instead of old glory. That is true. Um but history is meaningless to our father. He never reads. Bridget Hilton any non-MAGA >> immigrant minorities >> immigrant Maryl and Bob respect admire is there not that I know of [snorts] I don't think so >> I don't think so >> silly BBO I tagged Hive Ba ...

... is stupidly slow and it drives me up a wall that Americans don't understand it. >> Well, >> not all Americans. >> Not Yeah, >> some Americans do understand >> 100%. It's MAGA that doesn't care or understand it or whatever. >> And and it, you know, it's part it's a wide variety of things that contribute to that attitude. Mainly a kind of stupi ...

... et here and stay here if they hated America? Yeah, that's a good question. We'll ask that next time perhaps. Angela says, "What do you think Bob would do if Marylu disav MAGA?" We talked about this earlier. I'm not sure. Um I'm not sure how that would go. I mean, it's going to be a very tense environment, more so than even it than than it is ...

... right now. And um you know, we got to do what we can do ultimately. At least I feel that way because I I do think there's going to be a time post Trump when all of these MAGA people are going to have to return to their friends and their families. And it's kind of up to us to be there to receive that and not uh rub it in their face and you kno ...

... m especially, it's going to um be the case. I don't know about my dad. Like, I I don't know. I I have very mixed feelings about why my dad is the way he is with all this MAGA [ __ ] I I there's some piece of me that's like he's not really MAGA. Maybe that's my own delusion that it's it's kind of like this identity that has consumed him, but t ...

... . Like, I I don't know. I I have very mixed feelings about why my dad is the way he is with all this MAGA [ __ ] I I there's some piece of me that's like he's not really MAGA. Maybe that's my own delusion that it's it's kind of like this identity that has consumed him, but that these aren't his real views. I guess maybe that's the only way I ...

... I just in the long span of history, politicians come and go, political movements come and go, political situations come and go. Once Trump is out of there, I don't think MAGA is going to have any juice. I really think he's the glue that kind of holds the whole thing together. And I'm I'm still hopeful that he will be gone in three years or pe ...

... ind of talking about the issues of the week or the day or whatever. But it also for me anyway is about like documenting what I believe are pretty down-the-middle average MAGA attitudes about all this [ __ ] So it's like, you know, every time you see my dad say something crazy, he's not the only person who thinks that [ __ ] There's a big chun ...

... s about all this [ __ ] So it's like, you know, every time you see my dad say something crazy, he's not the only person who thinks that [ __ ] There's a big chunk of the MAGA universe that thinks it too. And so when he says this kind of like wild [ __ ] at least for me, who's making this show, and I consider it, like all things that I do, to ...

... of Fox News that turned into Newsmax and he doesn't know what propaganda is. Neither does my mom. They just get fed this [ __ ] and it it's designed to turn people into MAGA supporters and they're baby boomers, you know? They don't [ __ ] know any better. So they're victims of this to some degree, too. Not obviously excusing their attitudes ...

... no other politician could be doing. They would be immediately impeached. They would be immediately kicked out. I just don't think like JD Vance, he's going to carry the MAGA movement. I just don't think there's anybody who can do it. And so my parents will remain Republicans, but they're not going to be like JD Vance isn't going to be able t ...

... ow in week two of >> 12 years. >> We are now in week two of a scandal that only seems to be picking up steam. This week saw >> I can't >> This week saw Trump lash out at MAGA supporters calling them stupid and weaklings. >> Okay. >> Calling them stupid and weaklings for continuing to believe what he said uh was a conspiracy. Disappointed MAGA ...

... MAGA supporters calling them stupid and weaklings. >> Okay. >> Calling them stupid and weaklings for continuing to believe what he said uh was a conspiracy. Disappointed MAGA supporters started burning their MAGA hats in protest on social media. Then on Thursday this week, the Wall Street Journal published a bombshell. Trump allegedly wrote a ...

... d weaklings. >> Okay. >> Calling them stupid and weaklings for continuing to believe what he said uh was a conspiracy. Disappointed MAGA supporters started burning their MAGA hats in protest on social media. Then on Thursday this week, the Wall Street Journal published a bombshell. Trump allegedly wrote a 2003 birthday letter to Epstein, a pa ...

... president. >> The bond he must >> There's nothing against him. Why would he have done the lawsuit for that? Why would he be calling you a stupid weakling and telling all MAGA? Yes, he did. He said there are some MAGA people that are stupid and he called them weaklings and he said you should move on. >> Some MAGA people, not us, >> right? Not ...

... nothing against him. Why would he have done the lawsuit for that? Why would he be calling you a stupid weakling and telling all MAGA? Yes, he did. He said there are some MAGA people that are stupid and he called them weaklings and he said you should move on. >> Some MAGA people, not us, >> right? Not you. Of course. Of course, not you. He wou ...

... tupid weakling and telling all MAGA? Yes, he did. He said there are some MAGA people that are stupid and he called them weaklings and he said you should move on. >> Some MAGA people, not us, >> right? Not you. Of course. Of course, not you. He would never turn against you. But um my my question with regard to that is what's the finger pointin ...

... ng to my hat. Oh, >> we did not burn our Trump hat. >> We very clearly he is making a hard push on his social media to get people to move off of this topic. He's telling MAGA to move on. You're stupid. You're weak if you are falling prey to this fake news. Why do you think he is so uh interested in telling his base to stop looking at this >> ...

... tter if it exists? >> Because it's the death of free speech. >> Exactly. He's taking away any kind of voices of disscent or voices that don't align with his 2025 kind of MAGA ideology. And you see no problem with that? >> I don't. >> He's suing them all. That's what would you think? >> I know. Dad has not stopped watching news. >> What would ...

... hear Chad and I. That's right. Let's try next time, like we did one time long ago. I'll do two topics, you do two topics. Or don't keep bringing on lefties. Get us some MAGA people on here. Or let me do two MAGA topics, you do two liberal topics. >> have had At this point, we have had I believe two liberal guests. >> No. And two MAGA. You br ...

... try next time, like we did one time long ago. I'll do two topics, you do two topics. Or don't keep bringing on lefties. Get us some MAGA people on here. Or let me do two MAGA topics, you do two liberal topics. >> have had At this point, we have had I believe two liberal guests. >> No. And two MAGA. You brought on your friend, Jewels, who was ...

... us some MAGA people on here. Or let me do two MAGA topics, you do two liberal topics. >> have had At this point, we have had I believe two liberal guests. >> No. And two MAGA. You brought on your friend, Jewels, who was MAGA. And the first guest we ever had was the head of the Republican uh Florida Republican Party. He was MAGA. So, let's get ...

... topics, you do two liberal topics. >> have had At this point, we have had I believe two liberal guests. >> No. And two MAGA. You brought on your friend, Jewels, who was MAGA. And the first guest we ever had was the head of the Republican uh Florida Republican Party. He was MAGA. So, let's get another MAGA. So, we're even on that. You said ze ...

... >> No. And two MAGA. You brought on your friend, Jewels, who was MAGA. And the first guest we ever had was the head of the Republican uh Florida Republican Party. He was MAGA. So, let's get another MAGA. So, we're even on that. You said zero, Dad. You're completely wrong. No. Yes. >> Jules was on. Our first guest was the head of the Florida R ...

... ught on your friend, Jewels, who was MAGA. And the first guest we ever had was the head of the Republican uh Florida Republican Party. He was MAGA. So, let's get another MAGA. So, we're even on that. You said zero, Dad. You're completely wrong. No. Yes. >> Jules was on. Our first guest was the head of the Florida Republican Party. Our second ...

... t were from the northeast. He's talking about the beer question. Move on. Let's go. I got to go. He's talking about If you guys have somebody if you guys have somebody a MAGA person you want to come on here get them on here or send me an email contact information, whatever. I'll handle it. We can have whoever you want, but I want them to be I ...

... And then he starts a certain point he tells her he's into stoicism and all this [ __ ] Um I don't know. Stoicism to me has a certain connotation with it now. >> 100%. >> MAGA basically. It's manosphere type [ __ ] Yes. >> Um you know, to each their own. Read what you like. You know, certainly it's like uh what what's the foundational text? Ma ...

... way after Friday. But I'm over it now. Okay. >> I'm good. I'm good. All right. Well, glad to hear that at least. Colbert's right ear. Money for a find Bob a hobby fund. Maga is so spineless doing a 180s on everything. War good, free speech bad, corruption pedos, affordability who cares? Mary Lou, I believe in you. Also, your skin is glowing. ...

... mic, you guys rock. Keep doing what you do. Thank you very much. I mean, pull the plug. Are you insinuating she should kill her father? I don't think she'll do that. Um, Maga Immune Mama 6374, I love your show. Props to your patience with Bob and Mary Lou. Haley, are you concerned about your children and their relationship with Bob and Mary L ...

... ack to. I'll try and nail her down on that maybe on Wednesday. And I'll >> their name is Mary Lou's Ark. Yeah. Yeah. That's >> Cuz mom. Yeah. Her arc is going to be from MAGA to [ __ ] sanity. That's the arc. No. The Mary Lou's Noah's Ark. Oh, is that what it is? I That's what I interpret it as, Mary Lou's Noah's Ark. I don't know. We'll have ...

... veryone's spouse gets influenced in something they do like sports teams, etc. 100% agree. I think without my dad's influence, she would not even be Republican, let alone MAGA. Yeah. >> Who let me, Mom? I love you guys. Could you flood it ask your dad if he supports PDF? Oh, pedophile? And if not, why is he not more invested in making sure tha ...

... his point are just sending whatever to it, so send it there. I see it. Um David Cabanas 9121, to Mary Lou FTR What's that mean? For the record. For the record, wearing a MAGA Trump hat uh and waving an American flag doesn't make you look like a dignified patriot. It makes you look like a snob. Yeah, it's weird how the American flag is a symbo ...

... lot of people. I would recommend it almost to everyone, honestly, unless you know, like beyond the shadow of a doubt, this ain't for you to to keep in contact with your MAGA family members or whatever, and that's totally fine. Obviously, everybody needs to figure out how they got to deal with this [ __ ] For me, though, >> there's >> Sorry, ...

... itty and like she believes in afterlife and maybe reincarnation, but like they're not Christian. >> Yeah, I know. >> They're not. >> I know. I know. But it's part of the MAGA identity. >> Yeah. They're not. >> So, they have to adopt it. >> Yeah. >> Well, Lemonello, thank you very much. Hey, Bunkers. Do y'all think the hate comments Marylu get ...

... ein victims." Exactly. >> Right. Yeah. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Rebecca Jones, I think your parents would benefit from watching the Baron Coleman podcast. He's a rep, not MAGA. Republican, not MAGA. Could be a good off-ramp. Check it out. I I bet we will never get my dad to watch anything other than Newsmax, but no, >> perhaps >> mom might. Ye ...

... >> Right. Yeah. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Rebecca Jones, I think your parents would benefit from watching the Baron Coleman podcast. He's a rep, not MAGA. Republican, not MAGA. Could be a good off-ramp. Check it out. I I bet we will never get my dad to watch anything other than Newsmax, but no, >> perhaps >> mom might. Yeah. Phil Meyer, do you ...

... t of this whole podcast is for me about like establishing this relationship. So when that system does crumble and the kind of magic spell that is being woven over all of MAGA, our parents included, dissipates, what are we left with? And if you don't have a relationship with those people, it's going to be much harder to now form one where do t ...

... l. Like that's scary. >> And he's got it. He's getting it. Um, awesome. Pawsome. Thank you very much. Not nautical. Oh, nautical. Now I see. It's mindboggling to me that MAGA wanted to murder Venezuelans on the boats a week ago. Now they're like, "Liberate the Venezuelans. Save them." They don't say it's not about Venezuelans. >> No, I think ...

... pissed. >> I got pissed. Kevin MCL80 show members only Palm Beach. It's like the Real Housewives of Mara Lago. I love Marylu's reaction as well. You really see how these MAGA rich live? >> What is members only Palm Beach? Do you know what that is? >> I have no idea. >> I don't know what that is either. Interesting though. From Doo123. Does Bo ...

... ho I am. >> I don't know. >> Well, to Josh Minecraft, Haley Chad, what are your thoughts on immigration? I'm the son of a hardworking migrant and I've been scared due to MAGA wanting them gone. >> I think anyone should be able to go anywhere they want. >> Me, too. I I disagree with the concept of countries as a whole and borders specifically ...

... n being on planet Earth has to decide their own kind of boundaries and relationship rules for whoever's in your life, parents, friends, any kind of loved ones who may be MAGA or maybe left or or whatever the divide is in your political or ideological views. You decide what is good for you. For me, uh if you think anyone's a lost cause, that's ...

... cal care. >> Yeah, it ain't great. Um, >> cheers. >> One a Jean, thank you. Uh, Scorpio 292U. My dad was my hero before Trump, but has fallen so deep in the rabbit hole. MAGA, your dad and my dad lack the empathy, compassion they raised us to have. Keep the conversations going, hoping one day they will see the light. Thank you very much. >> U ...

... orting parents aren't as insane as ours. I tend to think, [laughter] yeah, I know that there are like, you know, varying degrees of engagement of a Trump supporter, of a MAGA person or a person who is self-p profofessed MAGA, >> but I tend to think that our parents are probably somewhere in the average. I like I've definitely met crazier MAGA ...

... think, [laughter] yeah, I know that there are like, you know, varying degrees of engagement of a Trump supporter, of a MAGA person or a person who is self-p profofessed MAGA, >> but I tend to think that our parents are probably somewhere in the average. I like I've definitely met crazier MAGA than our parents. >> Yeah. And like >> people who ...

... MAGA person or a person who is self-p profofessed MAGA, >> but I tend to think that our parents are probably somewhere in the average. I like I've definitely met crazier MAGA than our parents. >> Yeah. And like >> people who are like deep on >> Yeah. And also like religious like going to the mega churches and all that [ __ ] And our parents a ...

... re I don't think they're really religious. They're not. They're not. >> I agree with you 100%. I don't know if it's like fear of impending death or it's just part of the MAGA ideology that they have to say they are. I don't I don't know. I don't know what the answer is exactly, but I agree with you. I don't think they're actually religious. > ...

... ew. >> Yeah. >> Um cuz this [ __ ] ain't working. Hopefully that's what they'll do. We'll see. from Katherine Perry, H4Y. Please talk about the cognitive dissonance, the MAGA create calling everyone communist when Trump is best buddies with the ultimate communist. Yes, correct. And it's like, you know, our dad has said multiple times that he ...

... sation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culchin. With me today is my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty, and both of our parents, Boba and Mary Lou, who are MAGA. Been an interesting week for MAGA. We'll see if you're still MAGA after what we talk about today. We are going to be talking about the Epstein coverup. We are going to ...

... nversation. I'm Chad Culchin. With me today is my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty, and both of our parents, Boba and Mary Lou, who are MAGA. Been an interesting week for MAGA. We'll see if you're still MAGA after what we talk about today. We are going to be talking about the Epstein coverup. We are going to be talking about that Vanity Fair a ...

... th me today is my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty, and both of our parents, Boba and Mary Lou, who are MAGA. Been an interesting week for MAGA. We'll see if you're still MAGA after what we talk about today. We are going to be talking about the Epstein coverup. We are going to be talking about that Vanity Fair article. We're going to be talkin ...

... Michelle Obama in the most horrific terms. So, you you were able to disassociate hating the person and and your country, still loving your country. Why does it seem like MAGA and perhaps even yourselves have an automatic assumption that everyone on the left, everyone who has liberal views hates their country as soon as they hate Donald Trump? ...

... ded Wilds in her claims that her statements were used out of context. Wilds also described JD Vance as a conspiracy theorist for a decade and suggested his conversion to MAGA movement was sort of political in quotes rather [snorts] >> you okay? >> Yeah, I'm fine. rather that uh that his conversion to MAGA was political rather than um principl ...

... ecade and suggested his conversion to MAGA movement was sort of political in quotes rather [snorts] >> you okay? >> Yeah, I'm fine. rather that uh that his conversion to MAGA was political rather than um principled. She called Elon Musk odd. She said he is a complete solo actor and an avowed ketamine user. She also suggested that some of his ...

... [ __ ] war? I don't know. >> I don't know either. But I what you said earlier about, you know, Pam Bondi and a bunch of these people in the kind of upper echelons of the MAGA >> Yeah. >> apparatus. >> When this is over, and it will be over, nothing lasts forever. Not even Donald Trump. I hate to break it to you. >> Yeah. >> I think there are ...

... ommunism thing kind of gets to it. I want mom right now, >> both you and dad. We're gonna start with dad. I'm gonna ask you one question. Dad, what is your definition of MAGA? >> What you talking about? What the MAGA that we're a part of? >> Yeah. >> Yes, that one. They are they are Republican trying to bring back the republic and get rid of ...

... mom right now, >> both you and dad. We're gonna start with dad. I'm gonna ask you one question. Dad, what is your definition of MAGA? >> What you talking about? What the MAGA that we're a part of? >> Yeah. >> Yes, that one. They are they are Republican trying to bring back the republic and get rid of democracy and they are here to defend the ...

... ing to bring back the republic and get rid of democracy and they are here to defend the United States of America against communism. >> But what does it mean to you to be MAGA? >> That I hate communists >> to make America the best we can make it again. >> And if they take over the country and get their democracy that they want permanently, we' ...

... rs fought for our freedom. >> Fascists. >> Yeah, you guys are This is like a brainwashing. I don't know if you're ever going to come out of this, but the reality is that MAGA is nothing but racist. >> Okay. >> White supremacist, [ __ ] Christian nationalist pieces of [ __ ] You identify as Mha. You are a piece of [ __ ] One of you, one of you ...

... necessary conversation book club, would you guys actually read books? >> Yes. >> No. >> Okay. >> I'd have to listen to him. >> That's what I thought. That's really what MAGA is. >> Would you read a book? No. >> I ain't learning nothing. >> Gosh, that's mean. Well, it's true. >> He said HE WOULDN'T READ A GODDAMN BOOK. >> That's true. >> I wi ...

... that back or I can be mad at you. >> All right. I take it back. >> Thank you, Haley. >> I Haley, >> you're you're asking me to deny reality. >> That's right. Get on the MAGA train. We're MAGA now. We have to deny our childhoods. >> We never beat you and you know that. I that's just simply not true. You're You are literally going to sit there ...

... n be mad at you. >> All right. I take it back. >> Thank you, Haley. >> I Haley, >> you're you're asking me to deny reality. >> That's right. Get on the MAGA train. We're MAGA now. We have to deny our childhoods. >> We never beat you and you know that. I that's just simply not true. You're You are literally going to sit there and say that dad ...

... point someone else will be in office. There will be an entirely new administration, a new DOJ. This cannot stand. >> I don't know. I think it might. I Do you think that MAGA generally they're seeing this? Do you think anyone believes this is justified? Even his most uh fervent supporters, do you think they're looking at this and it's like, " ...

... te. He doesn't have to pay taxes, but I do. He doesn't get audited, but I will if I don't pay my taxes. >> This is really like king [ __ ] >> Yes, but I think like ultra maga are like the dumbest of the dumb. Like you're so you're so stupid at this point if you're still following this [ __ ] Like you have to be so dumb. And there are still so ...

... n cheat to win and you can cheat so brazenly that you can change the nature of the game so that you're the only person who can win. And he's done that. And the the whole MAGA rightwing has done that. Steven Miller, Project 2025, it worked. >> They won. It's over now. I don't know how democracy comes back from this. You literally have a king s ...

... ng to [ __ ] stop. They're not going to stop, >> right? Yes. >> That >> I I totally agree. And now we're also at a point where it's like the the kind of stupidity of the MAGA movement and project 2025 and maybe to your point here um is that when you keep carving away rights, freedoms from Americans, they become more desperate when you have no ...

... t least in Maga's eyes, even more revered because he survived all these assassination attempts. But those don't work. >> No, >> it changes nothing. If anything, it gives Maga more power. >> I don't know. I'm going to maintain. I I want to see it all burn. I want to see it burn to the [ __ ] ground. >> Mhm. >> All of it. Everyone. It's all cor ...

... acks to warm up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, maybe I I maybe I just don't see it cuz even as bad as it gets. Like I mean, we're talking about these primaries. These [ __ ] MAGA Republicans swept them. What? Everybody who's voting for them in those various counties is feeling the same stresses and stuff you're talking about. And they voted for h ...

... out them. By the way, nobody's talking about them. This is a 480-word tweet all about them. >> I know. >> Nobody's talking about them and their views are the opposite of MAGA, or I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide. Maga agrees with me and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of all caps ending quotes Trump. Not handi ...

... weet all about them. >> I know. >> Nobody's talking about them and their views are the opposite of MAGA, or I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide. Maga agrees with me and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of all caps ending quotes Trump. Not handing flailing fools like Tucker Carlson who couldn't even finish college. ...

... e failing New York Times and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not Maga, they're losers just trying to latch on to Maga. As president, I could get them on my side anytime I want to. But when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm ...

... al left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not Maga, they're losers just trying to latch on to Maga. As president, I could get them on my side anytime I want to. But when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs. Not that ...

... n't know. >> I don't know what Brown. >> joke he's trying to do that's not working. But I no longer care about that stuff. I only care about doing right for our country. Maga is about winning and strength in not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons. Maga is about making America great again and these people have no idea how to do that, but I ...

... g. But I no longer care about that stuff. I only care about doing right for our country. Maga is about winning and strength in not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons. Maga is about making America great again and these people have no idea how to do that, but I do because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world. Pr ...

... me is my sister, Haley Pope. We are both lefties, dirty communists, as our father would say, but he's not here today. With us is only my mom, a Trumpup supporting QAnon MAGA patriot, you would say. Why isn't dad here? >> I have to hold my ground today by myself. This is correct. You know, I gave you both a text. Well, why your father isn't h ...

... even take the bait or know what was happening. >> Okay, cool. So, I'm glad you guys are into tricking me and now you're demanding an apology for a joke. It's uh standard MAGA behavior. Um Mom, do you have any diddies or was this your diddy? >> Standard liberal behavior. Uh yeah, this could be my diddy. The only other one is that the six that ...

... ows users to see the country or region an account is based in. Almost immediately after the roll out, users and investigators discovered that many prominent proTrump and MAGA accounts that claimed to be US-based were in fact based in foreign countries including Nigeria, India, and Eastern Europe, uh, Thailand, other Asian or non- US regions a ...

... that these are not people who are big fans of Trump. These are political interests. These these are governments essentially who have some vested interest in keeping you MAGA the Trump supporters locked in this cycle of watching their media. It it is propaganda designed to entrap you >> created by other governments and it is working. And then ...

... hat has nothing to do with this. >> Okay, >> we need to focus on this. Don't get distracted. >> [laughter] >> The information that this is bringing to light is that many MAGA accounts on Twitter are not from America. They are from other countries and they are using these accounts to brainwash you. >> Are you sure these accounts are not like T ...

... . >> Thank you everyone for joining us. Thank both of you for joining me. Dad is just being a little baby, but thank you mom. keep this up single. So, I'll bring another MAGA friend on. >> What do you mean you can't keep it up single? >> If dad doesn't come back, I need someone else to help me. >> Why? >> I see. >> Cuz it's two against one. > ...

... day okay so I have to give her ice chips because um her trachea is getting really bad all right ice chips seem to help her all right let's move on our first topic is the Maga Civil War is off thank you I appreciate that the first topic is the Maga Civil War Maga is turning on itself as this week saw a rift form in the Republican party uh over ...

... g really bad all right ice chips seem to help her all right let's move on our first topic is the Maga Civil War is off thank you I appreciate that the first topic is the Maga Civil War Maga is turning on itself as this week saw a rift form in the Republican party uh over high-skilled immigration policies particularly concerning the H1B Visa p ...

... l right ice chips seem to help her all right let's move on our first topic is the Maga Civil War is off thank you I appreciate that the first topic is the Maga Civil War Maga is turning on itself as this week saw a rift form in the Republican party uh over high-skilled immigration policies particularly concerning the H1B Visa program which al ...

... ong you're going to get your ass thumped on the back of the head or you're gonna get Luigi mangion Yeah Yeah by who though who's gonna thump you on the head Marines yeah Maga just random Maga people yeah we'll just we'll get tired we'll get sick and tired of your [ __ ] start knocking you on the head but you that get your [ __ ] attention has ...

... to get your ass thumped on the back of the head or you're gonna get Luigi mangion Yeah Yeah by who though who's gonna thump you on the head Marines yeah Maga just random Maga people yeah we'll just we'll get tired we'll get sick and tired of your [ __ ] start knocking you on the head but you that get your [ __ ] attention hasn't it got your [ ...

... g you on the head but you that get your [ __ ] attention hasn't it got your [ __ ] attention already yes you have this idea that the left won't fight back that it's only Maga you know why you're nothing but [ __ ] Luigi man yeah Luigi mangion in broad daylight gunned down a CEO of United Healthcare yeah you don't think that is going against y ...

... g that. Seahawks crushed. >> So, they don't get to go to the Super Bowl now. >> Noah Salmon. Chad, do you think you or your parents uh spend more time watching Trump? My MAGA family barely watch him, and I think that's by design for the media. I think our parents definitely spend more time. I watch the highlights. Very rarely will I watch a f ...

... se no more. Thank you. >> LW9517 says, "Left USA two years ago, Haley, you need to open a high bakery in Edinburgh." Oh, >> yes. I love Edinburgh. Been there. >> Call my MAGA mom today. They both claim AP had a gun. I'm tired and sad. AP did have a gun, but then it was taken by an ICE officer and then they put 10 bullets into his unarmed body ...

... there were 10,000. I heard it was all just FBI agents. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Punchy Dollyia. Why are Mary Lou and Bob critical of folks pushing [snorts] back against MAGA policies but presumably don't have a problem with patriots who sometimes violently stood against British tyranny during Revolutionary War? Well, >> I don't know. >> It's ...

... ad, you're awesome. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Because she believes in authority and that you have to [ __ ] kneel to it. >> Mhm. >> Sunny to Mary Lou, if you leave the MAGA cult, people will get it 100%. >> Yeah. >> And I think there's there's a piece of me that's like, is that our new strategy? Do we try to appeal to her sense of uh >> it' ...

... . Um, so illegal alien is like it it's not even a real thing in my opinion. Uh, Lillian Soaper. Do you guys think your parents' marriage would survive Marylu leaving the MAGA cult? Thanks for the show. You guys rule. Sorry your parents are Nazis. >> Yeah, because she's his [ __ ] caregiver. Okay. >> He he ain't got any choice in this matter. ...

... for that. >> So, there's nothing that can be pared back through Newsmax or Fox News to be like, well, this is why he's doing it. They're not offering an explanation. So, MAGA can't just be like, well, this is what they Caroline Love it said. You know, >> um >> I think that that's >> kind of a key feature of why this one specific thing is work ...

... e looked back on as insane. >> Yeah. >> Barbaric even, you know, and I I don't know like what the ultimate fallout will be. I have extreme confidence that like Trump and MAGA will end. And I I don't know why I'm feeling this right now, but I'm like I think it's around the corner. this all this HGSH [ __ ] the Epstein files, there are like mul ...

... nd I also like her. >> She's just like no [ __ ] is like I really like her. Do you think let's say that the uh 2028 is AOC versus I just don't think it's going to be any MAGA person. Um but you know JD Vance I guess is probably logically the person they would run >> I guess. >> AOC versus JD Vance. You think like I just don't think JD Vance h ...

... ot at all. even in if there's like horribly gerrymandered states and stuff like that. I I just don't think he can do it. >> I think it at this point he only gets the the MAGA vote. Like he's not getting Republican vote. >> And I don't even think he gets the MAGA vote. Like not not even a big percentage cuz he's not Trump, >> right? >> I just ...

... I just don't think he can do it. >> I think it at this point he only gets the the MAGA vote. Like he's not getting Republican vote. >> And I don't even think he gets the MAGA vote. Like not not even a big percentage cuz he's not Trump, >> right? >> I just I don't I could be completely wrong in this. I just don't think >> Trump is like a ciphe ...

... conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culture. Today, we got the full family for another Sunday episode. my fellow lefty sister Haley and my two MAGA parents Bob and Mary Lou. What a week it has been in the news. Mom, do you want to start off the show with your diddies? >> Yeah, they're kind of shout shout outs. I'm c ...

... double down on him? >> I highly see what she says. >> Any Republican that's left that's not Mha. I mean, um, they don't perceive him that way to begin with. So, if it's MAGA, they all follow Trump's lead. Whatever this [ __ ] tells them to do, they're going to do. So, I I guess not. I mean, I don't think there's going to be heat on him anymo ...

... ca. >> Okay, Mom and Dad, you loved her. We've had many episodes of this podcast where you sung her praises and you thought she was one of the the kind of most prominent MAGA champions. >> She can't take the heat, so she's getting out of the kitchen. >> So, I no longer love her. She's been attacking him for a while. >> She thinks that her her ...

... circle eventually. And we've seen all Republicans, but one in Congress, >> vote against him on these Epstein files. Do you think this is starting to be a fracture in the MAGA party that that will take it down? What? That that what is a fracture? >> All these Republicans turning against him now. >> All All of them. >> You can count them on one ...

... that line at the very end. I'll see you all very soon. >> Yeah. She's going to use this anti-Trump turn to be like, I'm a good Republican. And I I really think the whole MAGA thing is I I dare I say this, but I think it's about to crumble. I think these Epstein files are going to be terrible. People not being able to afford to eat anymore. Te ...

... erson to coverage of these events from the other side, which we're not getting because we're in our little bubble. That's why we call this uh midweek episode busting the MAGA bubble. Now, on last Sunday's episode, we had a discussion about an ICE uh raid or assault, whatever you want to call it, where ICE was yanking a child out of the arms o ...

... > Okay. >> Out of all this out of all of our um social media accounts that we have and the people that do follow us now, what percentage do you think are like Republican MAGA? What percentage do you think are liberals? Yeah, that's my question. Like how many followers? >> I think it's like 80% liberals and 20 MAGA. >> I think it's maybe not e ...

... ou think are like Republican MAGA? What percentage do you think are liberals? Yeah, that's my question. Like how many followers? >> I think it's like 80% liberals and 20 MAGA. >> I think it's maybe not even 20 MAGA. I think it's mostly left liberal people. >> Okay. Then and how many Antifa >> like like the Antifa Antifa down >> 100% Antifa. > ...

... percentage do you think are liberals? Yeah, that's my question. Like how many followers? >> I think it's like 80% liberals and 20 MAGA. >> I think it's maybe not even 20 MAGA. I think it's mostly left liberal people. >> Okay. Then and how many Antifa >> like like the Antifa Antifa down >> 100% Antifa. >> I don't think there are any fascists f ...

... n issue as as well as all the Epstein [ __ ] I think that the Epstein [ __ ] and the ice [ __ ] for you are kind of like the two big ones that might get you to leave the MAGA cult. And that's why I'm showing you all these videos. You're saying you need to see it with your own eyes. You're never going to because you go from your house to the b ...

... e I'm going to I'm going to lay this out here. This is going to be one of the hardest things for you to accept. I don't think dad ever will. Uh because I think dad is is MAGA for different reasons than you are. But you must at some point accept the fact that you have been and are being lied to about most of this stuff. And the reason they're ...

... t specifically by these big tech companies who are using lies and propaganda to keep you stuck in that perpetual cycle by certainly by these politicians by Trump and and MAGA because they know you're going to buy the hats and the cologne and the watch. All he cares about is making money and giant deals and he's lying to you to make as much of ...

... No, we don't serve you." And I think the social pressure could be enough to to compensate for the $50,000 signing bonus. >> So, if somebody comes into your bakery with a MAGA hat or a Trump hat on and asks for Trump cookies, you won't you won't serve them. Now >> I have. They're not ICE agents. They're just Trump supporters. There's a huge di ...

... he US will allow Qatar to build a military base at Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho, where the US military will train Qatari pilots to fly the F15 fighter jet. Many MAGA dieards like Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer have turned against Trump on this decision, marking a rare crack in the loyalty of the MAGA base. The move is a blatant reward ...

... s to fly the F15 fighter jet. Many MAGA dieards like Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer have turned against Trump on this decision, marking a rare crack in the loyalty of the MAGA base. The move is a blatant reward to Qatar for the $400 million Boeing 747 luxury jet they gifted Trump earlier this year. Qatar is a Muslim country that operates under ...

... my parents, Bob and Mary Lou Colchin. My mom is wearing her red USA hat. That should give you some indication of her political leanings. They are both, of course, in the MAGA cult. Today, we're going to discuss the top six political actions and incidents that occurred this week. But before we get to that, Mom, you like to interrupt? >> Oh. Ok ...

... we're going to discuss the top six political actions and incidents that occurred this week. But before we get to that, Mom, you like to interrupt? >> Oh. Okay. >> Why is MAGA called a cult and your lefty crap is not called a cult? >> Because you are led by a cult leader who is leading a cult of personality. Uh >> no. Ask me how much Joe Biden ...

... e wasn't famous before this. Obviously, she was a giant famous musician. But there's something about this relationship and tying it to I mean, a lot of people think he's MAGA. I don't know if he is or not, but like The NFL certainly is, you know, they both are going to be. >> So, she's plugged directly into that MAGA fan base in a way that I ...

... lot of people think he's MAGA. I don't know if he is or not, but like The NFL certainly is, you know, they both are going to be. >> So, she's plugged directly into that MAGA fan base in a way that I don't think she was before, which has obviously exploded her popularity because she's playing both sides of that fence now. Um, I just think tha ...

... week that you talk to your family. I sincerely appreciate that. >> Hello. >> He just turned it on to be >> an [ __ ] as I said earlier. >> Yeah, >> that's his brand, the MAGA [ __ ] Um, thanks everybody for joining us. We will be back next week and uh please send in your questions again in 1 minute or shorter video to the necessary conversati ...

... onversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culton with me is my left y sister my lib of tick tock sister Haley Pope will be getting into that and my deep Maga till death parents Bob and Mary Lou now this week was a big week it was Trump's first full week in office and he initiated a whirlwind of executive orders and all kinds ...

... you saw them ey roll kind of shake their heads a little bit and then immediately following he uh demanded an apology and you know called her names like he does like all Maga does uh it was all kind of like uneducated [ __ ] banter um but I thought like wow this uh she's a [ __ ] icon like a legend a living legend so I said we're putting her ...

... a living legend so I said we're putting her on a cookie we're going to run this [ __ ] let's see what happens um immediately following there was a backlash not only from Maga in my town but you know that people follow us like worldwide so there was just like the initial backlash of us posting those cookies um from that I made a post saying le ...

... please don't get strapped if it was that if it's that important they will come to you Dad would you be proud of Haley if she killed somebody in self-defense but it was a Maga person what do you mean like if she's delivering cookies let's say somebody comes into her store with a gun and is like I'm going to [ __ ] kill all of you and Haley dom ...

... ng cookies let's say somebody comes into her store with a gun and is like I'm going to [ __ ] kill all of you and Haley domes him would you be proud of her or sad that a Maga died no it's fine that she shot him okay just checking um well thank you everybody for joining us this week we will be back next week with another show it's senseless th ...

... we've got it in the bag." Oh, I see what Dad's saying. He's saying their vote won't be needed again. Do you understand that? He's talking about Christians, not the whole MAGA movement. Okay. You guys so [ __ ] delirious. You're blind through both eyes, and you and you and you don't even understand that if you get your way, both of you will pr ...

... re you trying to say? What? She's told half the country that that they don't matter. She's told half the country they don't matter. In what way? She is pro um She's anti-MAGA. She's anti-MAGA for sure. But And she's Wait a minute. You don't think Donald Trump is anti-Harris or anti-Democrat? He's openly insulting everyone constantly on the De ...

... say? What? She's told half the country that that they don't matter. She's told half the country they don't matter. In what way? She is pro um She's anti-MAGA. She's anti-MAGA for sure. But And she's Wait a minute. You don't think Donald Trump is anti-Harris or anti-Democrat? He's openly insulting everyone constantly on the Democratic side. Ri ...

... tarian leaders use. It is to make some portion of the electorate fear everything, including in quotes the other side. And it's to brand you with an identity. You are now MAGA until you die. Even if Trump dies tomorrow, if Trump loses this election and fades into political obscurity, you guys are MAGA forever, right? You'll probably still have ...

... to brand you with an identity. You are now MAGA until you die. Even if Trump dies tomorrow, if Trump loses this election and fades into political obscurity, you guys are MAGA forever, right? You'll probably still have that Trump sign in your your lawn for the next 10 20 years. Guess what? We're not the only one. Exactly. But do you see Can yo ...

... not live in my parents' basement. I own my own house. Um, I'm really trying to beat the commie claims here. So, uh, obviously there's been a lot of infighting within the MAGA universe, uh, recently. You have Trump downing people like Alex Jones, Marjorie Taylor Green, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. I think the list goes on. >> Um, my question ...

... . Uh, what would happen if Trump made a post uh, disowning you guys? uh if he took a clip of Mary Lou and said, "Uh, here's everything that she disagrees on. This is not MAGA." What would your guys' opinion be? Um, thanks so much. Also, happy belated Haley repping you here from Ohio. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Okay, Dad, you were talking over the g ...

... him on this. I don't like what he's doing in Iran. I don't like that he's in the Epstein files." And he issued some kind of public rebuttal to you saying that you're not MAGA and he doesn't like you. What would your reaction be to that? >> I if he doesn't like me, then I would not like him. >> Dad, >> that simple. >> I I'm gonna like him no m ...

... he goes also >> she goes to three three masses a week. She watch online. >> She doesn't like the pope at this time. >> She ma. >> She would be a Republican. >> She's not MAGA. >> She'd be a Republican in my words. >> Let me ask you this. >> Christian. >> You know what Christian stands for? Christ. >> She's not a Christian. >> Let me ask you t ...

... No, you do. >> Be nice. >> Okay. You do. >> No, you do. >> Put your hand [clears throat] nice. >> Here's here This is like a This is a prime example of like how cultish MAGA is. I went to >> the primary here in, you know, the town that I live in. Um, and there's tons of [ __ ] on the ballot, you know? It's not just >> Telerico and Jasmine Cr ...

... ur ballot. Do what you want." >> They don't give a [ __ ] My true answer to this is is I believe there is a version of America that is possible that sees the collapse of MAGA after Trump's death. Um hopefully soon. >> And in the wake of that event, I think the Republican party is going to have to search for its identity. That may take a minut ...

... he would quit. So, I'm lining up some guests. They're all over 30. You're going to be okay. But why are you always lining up uh liberals and left-sided and we need a >> MAGA? You had your friend from the barn. You had Jewels on this podcast. >> What? >> What are you talking about? >> I've had one friend, one >> who was both MAGA and under 30 ...

... we need a >> MAGA? You had your friend from the barn. You had Jewels on this podcast. >> What? >> What are you talking about? >> I've had one friend, one >> who was both MAGA and under 30. >> So that was before he did the rule. >> That's right. >> Okay. Anytime you guys want to have guests on, you can line them up. I literally people are reac ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It is me Chad Colchin and my MAGA mom Mary Lou. Today we are going to be looking at some clips from Pam Bondie's disastrous performance in the 5-hour House Judiciary Committee meeting, her hearing, where ...

... sly, >> there are just so many lies going around now. There's so many people that lie all the time. It's >> But one party here in America, the Republicans, Donald Trump, MAGA, are protecting people in the Epstein files. That is the party doing that. You see that, right? >> Not really. How how do you miss that? Pam Bondi, who is appointed by M ...

... A, are protecting people in the Epstein files. That is the party doing that. You see that, right? >> Not really. How how do you miss that? Pam Bondi, who is appointed by MAGA, is appointed by Trump, will not even answer a question about why she hasn't indicted anybody from the Epstein files, will not even look the victims in the [ __ ] eyes. ...

... ppointed by Trump, will not even answer a question about why she hasn't indicted anybody from the Epstein files, will not even look the victims in the [ __ ] eyes. She's MAGA. >> Why do you think it's all Republicans? What about Democrats that are in there? >> Democrats are not protecting the Democrats. They're in fact saying, "Yeah, bring th ...

... e to the necessary conversation. We have a very special show today. I am, of course, Chad Culture. Sister Haley is gallivanting. She's not here. So, it's me versus three MAGA. My mom, my dad, and a very special guest, Jules, my mom's friend. Hi, Jules. Welcome to the show. >> Hi. Thanks for having me on. >> Thanks for being on. I see you're w ...

... got these at the Little Mike's uh Trump burger place. >> Oh, yes. We we did an episode that discussed that. So, how long have you known my mom and how long have you been MAGA? >> Um, so I've known Mary Lou and Bob for about five years now. Yeah, we met through horses then just became pretty good friends and then I still go ride their horse sh ...

... I still go ride their horse shiny about once a week or so and uh yeah, we have fun riding shiny and they've just been really good friends past five years. Um, I've been MAGA probably since 2016. Um, I voted for Trump twice. I wasn't old enough to vote in 2016, but I voted for him in 2020 and in 2024. So, yeah, my family are all Republican, s ...

... kay. So, it's not over 100 years. >> It's close. >> Okay. >> 60 and 25 is 85. >> Okay. So, you don't see any similarities. I mean, the question was >> similarity between MAGA and the Nazis. >> Thank you for my husband. >> Thank you for my husband taking my question. Let me answer your question. >> Yes. I feel the same way. I don't see any cor ...

... smax and they did it real briefly and I kind of paid attention, but I didn't. >> So then I pulled it up online and I read it. Then I got on my phone and texted one of my MAGA friends. I said, "Was that real or was that fake news?" >> And she said, "No, I think that's real." So then after I thought about it for what it's been up there now a da ...

... ost anything like this about Rob Reiner? He deserved it. He didn't like Trump. No. >> Okay. Trump is tweeting that >> sad. That's not what it is. >> He said he w had the MAGA. Do we need to read it again? Here we go. >> This is the part of it that I think is important. >> Okay. >> It says uh >> due reportedly due to anger he caused others thr ...

... dent of the United States sending [ __ ] out like this the average person the average Trump supporter is like great now I'll say the same [ __ ] It it's not >> I'm I'm a MAGA. I don't like it. I would not say that about anyone. >> And this is what I'm saying. This moment right now is kind of an interesting moment because it is turning a lot o ...

... d you. Then I Googled it. I said, "Oh my." And then I called or texted my friend and she goes, "Yeah, I think he did say that and it's not good." And she was she's a big MAGA, too. >> Yes. Because there's a piece of all of you or at least you and dad that claim to be Christian and have all these Christian beliefs. >> I believe in God. >> I un ...

... ople who don't see eye to eye with you on stuff. >> Mhm. >> I I want to talk to like her, but I didn't. I hang out with a friend who is 25, >> but also Maja >> and she's MAGA all the way. >> But you guys are horse buddies, right? >> Yes. But we hang out >> other than horse buddies. So your friendships and stuff and your associations in life c ...

... me. >> He doesn't like to read. >> Oh my god. >> I don't need that. >> Shocker. >> Yeah. And do you think that this is revealing of some kind of underlying problem with MAGA? >> No. >> That was your text to me that was really >> I hated I hated reading when I was [ __ ] four. >> Yeah. I didn't read very well either when I was in second grade ...

... e people were arrested during the no kings thing, but there was no property damage. No one was hurt. And even the people who arrested, I looked that up. Some of them are MAGA that were there to start [ __ ] There was a MAGA woman driving down the street waving a [ __ ] gun out the window at protesters. She was one of the arrests. >> Okay. Was ...

... but there was no property damage. No one was hurt. And even the people who arrested, I looked that up. Some of them are MAGA that were there to start [ __ ] There was a MAGA woman driving down the street waving a [ __ ] gun out the window at protesters. She was one of the arrests. >> Okay. Was this real? a picture of all these teachers in Ch ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. I'm calling these little midweek things busting the MAGA bubble because mom, I'm trying to bust your MAGA bubble. >> Never going to work, but good luck. >> We've already started. You've you've disagreed with Donald Trump multi ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. I'm calling these little midweek things busting the MAGA bubble because mom, I'm trying to bust your MAGA bubble. >> Never going to work, but good luck. >> We've already started. You've you've disagreed with Donald Trump multiple times on this show now. I think you're coming ...

... e book? >> He just told you right-wing people are threatening him and his family because Trump has said Antifa is a terrorist organization. And so now all the right-wing MAGA maniacs, especially on his campus, he talked about Turning Point USA pressuring him. They're like, "Fuck this guy. He's Antifa." Which now, at least in the mind of MAGA, ...

... MAGA maniacs, especially on his campus, he talked about Turning Point USA pressuring him. They're like, "Fuck this guy. He's Antifa." Which now, at least in the mind of MAGA, certainly in your mind, equates to terrorism, which it is not. It's again, it's anti-fascist. Are you pro-fascist? >> Oh boy. >> No, don't me. Are you pro-fascist? >> N ...

... th uh liberal left leaning citizens of these United States have an hourlong conversation with our parents Bob and Mary Lou Who are Beyond right wing I would say they are Maga Maja they are Maga qanon they are all of it and we talk about the four biggest political issues bringing the blood bath oh god oh well we're gonna get to the blood bath ...

... leaning citizens of these United States have an hourlong conversation with our parents Bob and Mary Lou Who are Beyond right wing I would say they are Maga Maja they are Maga qanon they are all of it and we talk about the four biggest political issues bringing the blood bath oh god oh well we're gonna get to the blood bath that is one of one ...

... t but he is by the fact that he's saying you know we've got to do something or we're going to have a blood bath in the Auto industry he is I think he is actually telling Maga that it's okay to kill yes take it by force okay and you believe we will kill and you think that is you bet your [ __ ] boots we will kill okay so that's illegal preside ...

... violence he said it's going to be a blood blast on the Auto industry he has no control hey first of all you two are totally stupid if you think Donald Trump Now controls Maga he no longer does we are we are [ __ ] fed up and it doesn't matter whether Trump tells us Lay Your Arms down and be nice We're not gonna be all right let's say Trump di ...

... r and I and our parents. Uh we are all politically opposed to one another. Not all. My sister and I are pretty closely leaning together. My mom and my dad are deep QAnon maga. We talk about political issues uh every week. Haley, I don't suppose you have a light in that room you're in. So we can see anything that's going on. Thank you very muc ...

... people. And if you don't abide by our rules and our norms, you have to go. And I mean to a dirt nap. Okay, don't yell. So, yes, my my opinion is if you do not agree with MAGA and America first, you have no place in my life. Okay, don't yell. Do you think Donald Trump is looking into AI at all? Yes. For what? Whatever country has people are 10 ...

... g anyway. I think, as a rhino because all the [ __ ] that she's said about Trump. She Yeah, she's more of a Democrat now than she is Republican. She is a She 100% in the MAGA vote. If she If she If she really believed And that's all that matters in the Republican uh I agree. I I think the the Republican Party kind of Hooker. Right. The Republ ...

... happens. Do you think that they might try to slot somebody else in even if Trump is winning all these primaries? No. No. No, not going to happen. Okay. I think though um MAGA runs the RNC now. Yeah, we don't even want to get into the Biden thing, but he's not going to be running running in the end. think he is either at this point. your gover ...

... ting because you're going to lose you're going to lose half your communism but well let me ask you this though you were talking about like uh Republicans getting sick of Maga Vote or getting sick of rhinos uh or Mega voters sorry getting sick of rhinos who do you think and and you said all Maga people are going to vote for Trump I agree with ...

... alking about like uh Republicans getting sick of Maga Vote or getting sick of rhinos uh or Mega voters sorry getting sick of rhinos who do you think and and you said all Maga people are going to vote for Trump I agree with that who do you think Trump can actually get to vote for him that hasn't already made the decision they're going to can h ...

... iberals and there are some they're all rhinos most Republicans half the Republicans that have been listening to that [ __ ] have had enough of it you're going to see the Maga movement double but to double it that means you've got to start getting some Democrats in there and independents you will but you're going to see you're going to see som ...

... hopefully we will see but uh at the very least there might be some YouTube videos or something so if you're not going we're all going out and spend a little time with my Maga horse shiny okay uh he hates communism okay great if you're not following YouTube he told me so if you're not following us on YouTube you should follow us on YouTube it' ...

... re. >> I see that you're here not wearing a Trump hat once again. >> We've discussed this again. I can go get it. It's no big deal. This is USA. Here I am. I can wear my MAGA if you want me to. I'm still >> you to wear whatever you want to wear, but it just I'm just saying, just bringing it to your attention that for maybe the past month you ...

... t a big state fair. You go and you eat your corn on the cob and ride the Ferris wheel and see the musical acts and that's it. Trump is turning this into this weird hyper MAGA political thing that the 250th uh celebration or 250th anniversary of the United States of America, he's turning it into a massive MAGA Republican thing. The UFC is a pa ...

... urning this into this weird hyper MAGA political thing that the 250th uh celebration or 250th anniversary of the United States of America, he's turning it into a massive MAGA Republican thing. The UFC is a part of it. >> Well, this should be and I'm I'm going to read something. It's one of my friends and your friends. I'm not going to say the ...

... gence officials are saying we have no evidence that they have nuclear capabilities. He's using that as a way to convince [clears throat] people like you, the rest of the MAGA base, uh using it basically as a party line to justify this war, which he's using to manipulate the stock market so him and his buddies can make billions of dollars. >> ...

... on't know, it was late last night or day before. So I did see him say that and I was like, what? Yeah. Everybody's saying that. And I think he's turning off a lot of the MAGA base. He's turning off a lot of Republican voters by having this attitude and just expressing it openly. That is how he feels. You're saying like he misstated it, he sho ...

... it shouldn't have taken me to be in this position to know this, but it did. Okay. And that's fine. And I think that that's a I think that's a very common thing with most MAGA people. It's It's hard for you to look outside your immediate life to find empathy for anybody in a situation that you yourself are not personally in. Right. You are in ...

... ve the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coachran. With me today is my sister, Haley fellow lefty, and only my mom, representing my MAGA appearance. My dad is experiencing some health issues, so he's sleeping now. Sleeping it off. He'll be fine. >> [laughter] >> That's what you're calling it, yeah? Yeah, ...

... structure. He is now trying to circumnavigate that by saying, "Look, people are trying to kill me when I go anywhere but my ballroom. I need my ballroom." And the whole MAGA sphere is parroting that. They're all saying it. I It's possible that he staged this to get his bunker. 100% possible. And all of the things that you're talking about, h ...

... money. So, they're going to say to you whatever will get you to keep watching that screen with their logo on it. And they know for you and Dad and everybody in the whole MAGA community, the way to do that is to make you afraid and angry so you say Iran was 2 weeks away from a nuclear weapon. [ __ ] I'm afraid. Now, they're not coming to the t ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It's me, Chad, and my mom. I'm not MAGA. Mom, you're very MAGA. >> Yes, I am. >> Now, we've got a lot going on with the war in Iran. The ceasefire, which looks like it has been broken almost immediately by Isr ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It's me, Chad, and my mom. I'm not MAGA. Mom, you're very MAGA. >> Yes, I am. >> Now, we've got a lot going on with the war in Iran. The ceasefire, which looks like it has been broken almost immediately by Israel. Uh the Straight of ...

... What about Hunter Biden? What about Nancy Pelosi?" You really don't want to force me to do research, you guys, because you're not going to like the outcome. This is what MAGA is upset about regarding Hunter Biden's laptop. It's about $3.5 million from Berisma Holdings and $1.3 million in Soho Art Sales. Mind you, this was done when Joe Biden ...

... force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. Today, joining me, I have my sister, Haley Pope, fellow lefty. I have my QAnon MAGA conspiracy theorist cult member parents Bob and Mary Lou with us and we have a very special guest. She defeated Republican incumbent Amanda Batton to win a seat in the V ...

... >> I got married. Yes. 81 babies. Yes. Um, so I got married pretty young, age 20. Had my first daughter at 22. Um, but yeah, my stepdad um is is pretty far right on the MAGA sphere. And unfortunately, we don't have a lot of conversations anymore these days. My mom, however, while is still Republican, voted for Trump all three times, uh we ar ...

... ed, people that were getting divorced, people that children no longer spoke to some. And so my initial content before I got truly political was actually highlighting how MAGA as a movement and QAnon to some degree had eroded families because you know obviously this has got you know this I I would love to talk to y'all again in a different lik ...

... have any rights without feminist protesters, Mom?" That's fine. I've I've never been against uh feminists protesting protesting. All right. I've been against Danny Slag MAGA talk about how ICE is going after bad guys, murderers, pedos, then why is the only one they can name Laken Riley's killer from years ago, Mom? I have several. I have abo ...

... hree weeks I'll take a gummy to try to go to bed. Do a melatonin. Yeah, maybe. Maybe both. >> but I was not high. Chris W. Suarez, Chad, you are in the in aliens the the MAGA cult but with aliens in there. Never seek opposing views on that one topic. Basement Office Doc series debunks A-Tip and New York Times 2017 article. I mean, we can all ...

... the stuff >> salsa. I said burrito, he likes them. All right. Sunny Taw, 1990 Chad, please check out Ryan Getty. He's a YouTuber with fantastic political analysis about MAGA and the Democrats and will be a fantastic guest. If I have the time, I'll get to that. Wizard of Brew, Chad, what are your thoughts on Bill Maher? I'd love to see you on ...

... e is my sister Haley squinting. And my mom and my dad. Of course, this podcast is a conversation between two adult children, me and my sister, who are very left, and two MAGA adult parents who are deep in the cult. Mom, do you have ditties to begin the show? >> Well, it's kind of a ditty because you didn't have this down as a topic, so I woul ...

... begin the show? >> Well, it's kind of a ditty because you didn't have this down as a topic, so I would just like to thank our President Trump Uh. because the big days of MAGA, and I've got to read it, so don't get on me >> what do you think I don't have in there? Because there are some things that I didn't put in the document that I do want t ...

... of the show is that this is what I think our family represents America, the modern America. It is one half or or however many people who voted for Trump who are still in MAGA like you guys believe in these kind of fascist ideals and you think anything outside of that is un-American. I believe what you are is American. You represent a certain ...

... going on over there? >> I just picking stuff off my pants. >> Happy New Year. Welcome to this midweek edition of the Necessary Conversation. We call this one busting the MAGA bubble because these Wednesday episodes traditionally have just been me and mom or Haley sometimes comes in. This is the first one with just me and you, Dad. But we play ...

... followers that it's actually a restaurant. So, I got a bunch of messages about that. And then I got this comment on Instagram, which is a bad faith question. This guy is MAGA, and there has been a huge MAGA push to think about Somali people as fraudsters. Usually what they're referencing is the Feeding Our Future case. And yes, a lot of Somal ...

... estaurant. So, I got a bunch of messages about that. And then I got this comment on Instagram, which is a bad faith question. This guy is MAGA, and there has been a huge MAGA push to think about Somali people as fraudsters. Usually what they're referencing is the Feeding Our Future case. And yes, a lot of Somali people were implicated in that ...

... it is important that you don't laugh when a president [ __ ] mocks a woman in public like that is because it perpetuates this [ __ ] problem. >> Oh, it's >> how many uh MAGA >> letting [ __ ] happen to him right there in the Oval Office. That doesn't per perpetuate things. >> Yeah, we're not in support of Bill Clinton and what he did either, ...

... d to play, Mom, from this same appearance on Bob the Drag Queen's show. Here we go. Listen, Mary Lou, I believe at some point you are going to you are going to leave the MAGA cult. >> I hope so. >> And honestly, do you know the best way I think you can actually get her to do it? >> In my opinion, I think if she actually starts going to church ...

... nk if she actually starts going to church for real. >> Okay. So, that was the other clip you wanted me to play. >> Number one, Bob the Drag Queen. I will never leave the MAGA side. I'm not in a cult, by the way. I'm Mag. Make America great. Again, >> I am not in a cult, but >> that's what you believe, you believe. [clears throat] >> That Bob ...

... rsation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colulchin. With me is my sister, fellow lefty, and my mom and my dad. As you can see from my mom's hat, they are MAGA. Hello. Is anyone with me? Thank you. Hi. Hello. Hi there. Jesus. >> All right. >> Uh, Mom, do you have any diddies? >> No. >> No diddies. >> Well, I guess that this cou ...

... media and a lot of left politicians >> made by God >> that incited the anger in people >> made by God. >> Don uh by people saying Donald Trump is Hitler by people saying MAGA people are Nazi followers. By uh Biden saying the exact same thing. What happened is some of these left-wing people take this to heart. >> Okay. >> And then they go afte ...

... t. They murdered a >> and the left the left doesn't say stuff like Donald Trump's a Nazi take him down. Nancy Pelosi saying it all the time. Biden saying it. Saying that MAGA people are Nazis. >> Biden saying it. Do you remember when Donald Trump >> the dumb stupid liberal left to do something? >> It might. Yes. But do you also remember when ...

... e necessary conversation I'm Chad culton with me is my sister Haley Pope we are fellow left leaning liberals and our parents Bob and Mary Lou Who are deep in the Q andon Maga insane conspiracy World definitely going to be voting for Trump every week we have an hourlong conversation about the top four political stories of the week but first I ...

... hink probably like 50% of the Republican female vote that is not MAA yes I think any woman who [ __ ] sees this and is not MAA like you're [ __ ] done why do you call it Maga you don't know it's Mega make America great again and it's pronounced Mega I always pronounce it m yeah you are all mangas it's and he will make America great again okay ...

... alid political strategy yeah I I I I just think nothing is gonna work like mom is gonna V hear what they're saying bom no matter what you know and there's and and all of Maga is g to do that you cannot change their minds they don't listen to facts or Reason there isn't changing anyone's mind so the again the people who are going to vote for h ...

... now about it didn't hear about it I have no idea I don't know I think McCarthy will do it if he thinks that what Mom and I think the mag is going to take over because if Maga takes over McCarthy's house right well you know when you say Maga taking over you just mean taking over the Senate house and presidency no no everything's Senate that's ...

... ink McCarthy will do it if he thinks that what Mom and I think the mag is going to take over because if Maga takes over McCarthy's house right well you know when you say Maga taking over you just mean taking over the Senate house and presidency no no everything's Senate that's what I'm saying you're just talking about politically Mega will ne ...

... ough and they vote to uphold the impeachments do you think that will make Trump look worse Haley I mean it he always looks worse to me uh but I keep saying the far right Maga people like Mom and Dad they have literally said on this show countless times he could [ __ ] murder somebody it doesn't matter whatever vote he has right now he's going ...

... er who are progressives. One lives in LA and like one lives in Austin. Okay. Something like that. And she runs a bakery. This sister and a mom and dad and they are ultra MAGA. And I think they were like in, you know, Missouri somewhere. And I mean like don't take their caps off. Trump literally can do no wrong. He's playing 4D chess on the Ep ...

... wed. >> No, but he like he's watching what we're doing and and part of the you didn't show the rest of the clip, but he goes into how >> Donald Trump and like this whole MAGA regime is is tearing families apart. And so he acknowledges that this is in fact a necessary conversation and like watching the country kind of divide over this [ __ ] i ...

... o be Look, I can see it happening. >> It's shocking. Whether whether you are at the point where you can admit this or not, I can see that you are starting to come out of MAGA. I can see it happening in you. No. This week's been hard. Mentally, I'm not all here, and you know that. So >> Of course. >> give me a little slack. No, I'm giving you ...

... Uh and that is, you know, certainly to help you deal with with everything that's going on with Dad and stuff. But it is also to be here when you're ready to come out of MAGA. You're laughing, but that's going to happen. I can see it happening. No. Yes. Mom, you just disagreed with every point that I brought up today. You're already there. Yo ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It is me, Chad Kultgen, with my mom, Mary Lou. She's very MAGA, I'm very not MAGA. Um usually on these midweek episodes we show each other videos from across the divide in this country, across the divide of the political ideologies ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It is me, Chad Kultgen, with my mom, Mary Lou. She's very MAGA, I'm very not MAGA. Um usually on these midweek episodes we show each other videos from across the divide in this country, across the divide of the political ideologies in the United State ...

... tion, and fear processing. Basically, they operate on fear, not logic." I didn't know that. That's an interesting study though, that there's like physiological change in MAGA. >> I thought that meant my brain was bigger for a minute. >> I mean, technically, I guess it means that part of your brain is. Meep 5080, "Mary Lou seems to like Hassan ...

... d 2. All right, maybe we'll check it out. >> I assume this is a computer game, which is going to be a no-go for my parents. >> Gosh. >> Mukuro666, I know you are doing a MAGA guest next, but then I think Destiny would be great. I do not think he did what people accuse him of. #half half mustache rights. Listen, I've looked up some Destiny stu ...

... ngs, they lose more money on movies. >> What you're saying is irrelevant. Mo, let me ask you this. >> You suck. eight million dollars. It made opening weekend. Where was MAGA? Why was this not a massive hit? Why did not every MAGA person come out to see it? >> It's still going. Like Dad said, let's have the number go up as we go out. I could ...

... ng is irrelevant. Mo, let me ask you this. >> You suck. eight million dollars. It made opening weekend. Where was MAGA? Why was this not a massive hit? Why did not every MAGA person come out to see it? >> It's still going. Like Dad said, let's have the number go up as we go out. I could not understand. That's not how movies work. >> It's like ...

... ps from the other side. Clips of news items and commentary that we don't see because we are each in our own bubble. I of course am on the far left. Mom, you are hardcore MAGA queuing on as red as it gets, right? >> Yes, I am. Okay. >> I would consider myself MAGA. Yes. >> Yeah. Me too. Um, as we are recording this, it is Thursday, January 15t ...

... re each in our own bubble. I of course am on the far left. Mom, you are hardcore MAGA queuing on as red as it gets, right? >> Yes, I am. Okay. >> I would consider myself MAGA. Yes. >> Yeah. Me too. Um, as we are recording this, it is Thursday, January 15th. There has been another shooting in Minnesota. ICE agent shot another person in the leg ...

... Ben Shapiro. >> The biggest podcast that you listen to >> or that you watch clips of? >> I like Megan Kelly. I like Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. >> Um, >> and then that new MAGA girl I love that you guys laughed at her clip last week. I like her a lot. >> Okay. All right. Well, there you have your answer. If you have any questions for us, once a ...

... ke relevant comments from one side or whatever. >> Okay, let me ask you this, Haley. Do you think the fact that this got leaked anyway is a blueprint for the future when MAGA loyalists are trying to silence us? >> [snorts] >> I I mean I guess yeah I don't know. I wholeheartedly believe I've even seen it like in my algorithms right now on Tik ...

... ecessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. My name is Chad Culchin. With me today are just my mom and dad, Bob and Mary Lou. They are deep queueing on MAGA in the cult. They love their orange god. I do not. That is the premise of this show. My sister is usually here as well. She also does not love the orange god, but she is ...

... or any other questions that you might have. Please join me at 6 PM PST uh right here on our YouTube channel. >> How do they do that? I don't understand because I need my MAGA friends to dial in and give you some Nancy Pelosi Um, how do they do it, Chad? I don't get it. How do they do what? >> How do they dial in to ask a question? >> Dial in. ...

... each other in a box. >> I agree. >> And that's where it kind of stays. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> Yeah. >> All that said, this episode is going to be um a busting the MAGA bubble. In these episodes, basically, my mom and I play clips for each other from around the internet to try and open the other one's eyes to at least a different way th ...

... edom of speech should not be granted. That there should be drastic consequence for exposing whatever your beliefs are about anything if they don't align exactly with the MAGA party. Is that accurate? >> No, that is not what I'm saying. I love how you put words in my mouth. >> You said we're too lax is for everyone. But then the actions that a ...

... n ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culin. me is my fellow lefty sister Haley Pope and my MAGA parents Bob and Mary Lou in a new room today where the internet is hopefully a little bit better. Um before we begin this right now as we're recording this there is news ...

... o YouTube. Those are uh, you know, half an hour little things where me and my mom will watch like a CNN clip of some news coverage and we see if we can crack through the MAGA bubble to get my mom some information. I love you for doing those with me. and Haley, I love you as well, >> uh, for being our our champion in Flower Mound against the w ...

... t this idea that there is a vast terrorist network of left-wing maniacs. That does not exist. And what he is doing here is trying to put in your head, in the head of all MAGA, that now they can take anybody they want. It's not just brown people. It's not illegal immigrants. Now it's anybody who says anything they don't agree with. You're part ...

... there that there are left-wing terrorist organizations that need to be cleansed from the land. That idea is going to be used to round up citizens who just disagree with MAGA. That's going to start happening very soon. >> I don't agree. We just have to get rid of evil. There's evil and good. Which side you going to pick, Chad? Which side are ...

... e wasn't famous before this. Obviously, she was a giant famous musician. But there's something about this relationship and tying it to I mean, a lot of people think he's MAGA. I don't know if he is or not, but like the NFL certainly is, you know, they both are going to be. >> So, she's plugged directly into that MAGA fan base in a way that I ...

... lot of people think he's MAGA. I don't know if he is or not, but like the NFL certainly is, you know, they both are going to be. >> So, she's plugged directly into that MAGA fan base in a way that I don't think she was before, which has obviously exploded her popularity because she's playing both sides of that fence now. Um, I just think tha ...

... problem with >> I think it's both ways. I think it's both ways, but I think the left is very very ugly right now. >> Okay. That's weird because I get death threats from MAGA. Literally, >> I get death threats from MAGA and from left. I get death threats from both. >> I get from the left. I get from the left. And in fact, I don't look I'm not ...

... ink it's both ways, but I think the left is very very ugly right now. >> Okay. That's weird because I get death threats from MAGA. Literally, >> I get death threats from MAGA and from left. I get death threats from both. >> I get from the left. I get from the left. And in fact, I don't look I'm not going to look anymore. And I have a friend t ...

... versation. I'm Chad Colulchin. with me is my sister Haley Pope a fellow lefty living in the great state of Texas and my parents. What are you guys? Not Republicans, just MAGA, right? We love our country and we love Donald Trump, whatever that is. MAGA Mha. Um, we will be talking about some huge political issues that have happened this week. O ...

... living in the great state of Texas and my parents. What are you guys? Not Republicans, just MAGA, right? We love our country and we love Donald Trump, whatever that is. MAGA Mha. Um, we will be talking about some huge political issues that have happened this week. Of course, it seems like this week everything is going on all at once. Before ...

... ou know there's an error in the code somewhere he didn't even understand how the code works in the system that he now has full access to and he's letting his 19-year-old Maga Buddies go through it and Purge people that are you said we needed new blood there you go there was also within that USA 10 million was spent on let's see how y'all like ...

... ng about are important the whole point of this podcast yes is that there are I believe families all over this country that are just like ours where the parents are super Maga and just blind to reality and the kids are not some variety of that you know I think we might be uh slightly different because you've got two Gen X kids that are like [ ...

... Pope we are fellow lefties we believe in personal freedoms for all humanity and my mom and dad who believe in personal freedoms for only themselves they are deep in the Maga qanon conspiracy pit they worship the orange ones they drink from the fountain uh we are going to be discussing the top five if we can get to them political issues of th ...

... that nobody buy go to Harvard pay $250,000 for an education you can't do [ __ ] with you can become a lawyer Mama dad let me ask you this um you guys are are deep in the Maga tank you're swimming around in the juices you don't care if your prices go up or you blame it on bird flu or you blame it elsewhere never is it Trump's fault do you thin ...

... dictator I don't know he was he was there four years and he didn't do it right yeah well I don't know what I hear what iar is you you denied in the beginning that you're Maga but I do believe that you are Maja because you are you are really you are really quick to I don't believe that he didn't do that you sound just like my parents so I'm ki ...

... are really you are really quick to I don't believe that he didn't do that you sound just like my parents so I'm kind of thinking that you're my anybody sounds like us is Maga all right we have the truth of the matter is we're we're discussing we're disc there's two people running for president yeah my guess is if if I were to ask you and you ...

... hey hope and my parents Bob and Mary Lou culton that's my dad back in the distance there in that chair this is a show in which my sister and I who are both very much not Maga discuss the politics of the week with our parents who very much are Maga a lot of interesting stuff went down this week mom do you have any rants or dad do you have any ...

... distance there in that chair this is a show in which my sister and I who are both very much not Maga discuss the politics of the week with our parents who very much are Maga a lot of interesting stuff went down this week mom do you have any rants or dad do you have any rants dad does not you huh where is Dad he's right here he's what hi hell ...

... u culton just for those who may be new to this show me and my sister are far left leaning I would almost consider myself an anarchist and my parents are both deep in the Maga cult they believe Donald Trump is a God our only possibility of uh being saved from the evils of the satanic jobit So Yesterday Donald Trump almost got killed now I want ...

... he the uh the fact that there is now this rhetoric being spun around that it's Biden who's actually inciting political violence it will take hold in the rightwing in the Maga mind and so now the the moral High Ground of the left is gone it it just holds no water that was kind of like the last piece of the puzzle that I think the right needed ...

... ime to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culton with me are my parents Bob and Mary Lou Who or staunch right-wing uh Q andon Maga Trump supporters and my sister who is a fellow we're proud Americans which you guys which is something you guys are not let him talk uh that's correct but my sister and ...

... ters and my sister who is a fellow we're proud Americans which you guys which is something you guys are not let him talk uh that's correct but my sister and I are not uh Maga we are not Republicans and we have conversations with in our family uh for an hour each week about the four big political topics that have happened in the prior week but ...

... podcast in which my sister and I engage in political discourse with our parents my sister and I are left leaning to say the least and our parents are deep in the Q andon Maga conspiracy hole never to be released from the throws of his mind control now we are going to talk about some pretty big topics today we've got four of them Trump Trump g ...

... with this guy yes yes I'm exhilarated Jesus Christ [ __ ] exhilarated yeah do you think there is any chance that this guy will be ousted when he does something that the Maga Republicans don't think is right-wing enough like McCarthy was not a chance in hell why because he's already pulled us together the guys that were against him and not go ...

... e very politically aligned maybe my sister is a little more uh Democratic than I am maybe I'm a little more Anarchist than she is but both of our parents are deep Q Anon Maga supporters and we have conversations with them for one hour a week forced conversations you might say about the top political uh events of the week dad I want to recall ...

... e to fight for abortion bans across the country and these kind of draconian uh impositions on women do you think it's a losing issue in this next election I mean but now Maga is Shifting because Mega pronounce now so you know like their vote their vote will always carry over to Trump no matter what so I mean he's gonna be the front runner he' ...

... nded kitty cat and kitty cat the dog licking my dad's head vigorously uh of course my sister and I are left leading in our political views and my parents are deep in the Maga pit staunch Trump supporters okay okay well I already started giving him money but day and I'm glad and the metal is hitting the meat okay speaking of the girl hitting t ...

... eah it certainly didn't hurt him and now I'm ready to contribute bullets let me tell you what happened so the minute um we get emails from his campaign from the official Maga campaign so the next morning I looked for it all that day um you know the mug shot came out late in the afternoon or that evening the next day I get my email here it is ...

... there has never been a more important time to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad colchen with me as always are my right wing Maga Q Anon parents Baba Mary Lou and my left wing tatted from chin to toes sister Haley and she better not go any further up you remember what I told you about that I made m ...

... I don't think it's going to be a good time for them I think they'll be okay I think they'll get in with some white supremacists and and be protected like something right Maga [ __ ] yeah like legit Neo-Nazi like I think bad prison [ __ ] if the sentencing goes through they'll go to prison and tell Donald Trump becomes president and then they ...

... ink they want to assassinate Trump eventually. If they want to maintain control in politics, he cannot die in his bed at night. He must die a martyr so that they can use MAGA as their they can like take it over basically. >> Let's go. >> Well, I know that one thing is gonna Oh, go ahead, Mom. >> The Jimmy Kimmel joke. Did you all think that w ...

... p hat and my sister Haley. My sister and I are both of course lefties. Dirty dirty communist lefties per my father's claims. And my mom and dad who are deep in the QAnon MAGA cult. Whatever happened to QAnon? >> I think it's still it's still there. >> Okay. Today we have a wide variety of topics. We are going to be talking about Pam Bondi get ...

... do. Okay. And I think she hates America just like her friend. Okay. I I don't know what else to say other than this is like a big part of the kind of racist push within MAGA. It's to get anybody who's not white and say, "You hate America. You're from another country. You're a terrorist. Blah, blah, blah." Like >> to do with the color of thei ...

... tics in it. And it really kind of like, at least for me, you know, it kind of like re-anchors in my mind that like my parents are people. They're not just, uh, you know, MAGA maniacs. Oh my gosh. [snorts] But, I am. Okay, sorry. Didn't mean to insult you by calling you a human being. >> [laughter] >> And the first time, I guess I can It is Th ...

... is the entire family, my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty, fellow anti-Trumper, and my mom and dad, my mom in her best American flag hat. They are, of course, deep in the MAGA pit. They buy everything he sells. They believe everything he says is true, even when he's caught in lies and contradictions. Hello. Anyone? Hi. Can you hear me? Is this ...

... beyond just one or two people. >> And you know what's weird? like four or five years ago, even right before even Trump was in there and running for president and all my MAGA underground, the ones that are like really far out there, the Kunan, they they said there is a sex predator ring and like they would take children underground with train ...

... m, I think that you've been brainwashed. I think you're part of a cult. And I think that if you did not have access to the media that you consume, I don't think you'd be MAGA. I don't even think you'd be Republican. Um, Dad gone. >> He's gone. He's done. Dad's core values are I 100% agree with you. I think dad's core values are >> evil to som ...

... he half a mustache one a lot, >> but we'll talk about that later. >> Okay, let's move on to our first topic. The blue wave. In a unanimous rebuke of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, Democrats swept every high-profile election that took place earlier this week, and they won by huge margins. In Virginia, Democrat Abigail Spanberger won the g ...

... nst these people and in some cases against US citizens? >> Yeah, I don't like it. No. >> Okay. >> Disagreeing with Trump. >> Fantastic. And that's okay. You can still be MAGA. You can still wear the hats and the cologne and the tennis shoes and read his Bibles and eat his steaks and go to his defunct uh colleges. But you you have admitted tha ...

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. This is our busting the MAGA bubble midweek show. We are going to play some clips for each other largely about Trump saying that he's going to run through for a third term. Is that even possible? Et ...

... se, this is a conversation between my sister and I and our parents. As you can see from my mom there, she's taken to wearing Trump hats every week on this show. They are MAGA. My sister and I are not. Welcome. Mom, you usually start off the show with some diddies. Do you have some for us today? Yes, I do. All right. First, happy birthday, Ame ...

... to me. Yeah, that's the bigger piece of this. There was a a poll that came out um I think last week or maybe the week before that was talking about do Republicans or or MAGA voting Republicans really care about the Constitution if Donald Trump breaks it, if he becomes a dictator. It was like 60% don't give a [ __ ] They don't give a [ __ ] I ...

... Biden clones, doubles, and robotic engineered soulless mindless entities are what you see. # Democrats don't know the difference. Hash steel, but it's stel # US steel # MAGA # maha, which is make America healthy again. Um, mom, do you believe Joe Biden is a robot clone? No. Dad, do you believe Joe Biden's a robot clone? No. So, you both disa ...

... sary conversation. I'm Chad Colchin and with me is my sister who just admitted she ate something bad last night and my parents Bob and Mary Lou who are deep in the QAnon MAGA conspiracy pit. We open the show with a diddy from mom. Do you have a diddy? Oh goodness. Yes. Caught me off guard. You usually don't call on me that quick. Calling uh t ...

... it. It's great. Looks great. Looking good. Welcome to Necessary Conversation. I'm Chad Colchin. With me is my sister, fellow lefty, and my two parents, both deep in the MAGA QAnon conspiracy pit of their own. This is how they live their lives. We are going to have conversations about politics today, but we are also going to have conversation ...

... joining us. Dad needs to take his nap or whatever. Um I I don't know what to say at the end of this. I can't believe you guys don't see that he is turning his back on a MAGA loyalist and you don't see a problem. No, I don't see it like that at all. I mean, I know that they were friends. I know she supported him. She worked for him as she lie ...

... . Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. And my mom, my mom and dad are also here. Bob and Mary Lou. My parents are of course deep MAGA supporters drinking from Trump's cup. My sister and I, not so much. And we try to repair the division in our family by talking about politics. Will it work? Has it worke ...

... in. With me is my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty. You were out protesting this week. I saw. Yes, we'll get to that. Also joining me are my mom and dad deep in the QAnon MAGA conspiracy pit. You worship Donald Trump as a god. And we are going to talk about hopefully today the six top political issues of the week. If we can get to all of them, ...

... er all right welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culin with me is as always my Lefty sister Haley Pope and my parents Bob and Mary L culon who are deep in the Maga pit if you're joining us for the first time in this podcast we talk about the four maybe this week hopefully the six big political issues of last week and how everybody ...

... ics are there any topics you guys want to talk about this is by the way the necessary conversation thrown together last minute with me are my parents uh very much in the Maga cult Bob and Mary L and my sister my silent sister silently watching silently sitting here judging us she has said no words as of yet she simply sent some text messages ...

... rities in the US population next I do want to thank you thank you for sharing your health issues with us and thank you all for humanizing people I really take issue with Maga but I have come to love all of you even though I strongly disagree especially with Bob about many of the things that he says but I think it's awesome that you're sharing ...

... 't want us here they don't want to see us here there's uh a fear behind I mean I I started receiving phone calls at 10:00 a.m. when we opened the day after election from Maga in my community harassing me I had to call the police um and it ensued all week long you [ __ ] won and you're still harassing so winners yeah and and you know I had peo ...

... htweights we do have a plumber that came into the house we had a toilet needing fixed oh my gosh I should have recorded a conversation and didn't you think Dad and I are Maga you magnify it a thousand times this guy is ready loaded and ready to go he's 63 he's ready he's in for some disappointment come election day I think Mom do you want to ...

... a YouTube channel where two adult children myself and my sister ha have open and honest conversations with our parents about politics in America they are deep red State Maga Trump loving God-fearing American citizens and my sister and I are not what was that move mom what Haley did all right well we have only a few weeks until the election i ...

... out the big political topics of the week and of course my parents are deep in as you can see there my mom is showing off her Trump Vance 2024 button they are deep in the Maga hit and my sister and I are not uh which we believe is a a family makeup that probably exists far and wide throughout this country now before we begin we like to start e ...

... e'll never spend a day in jail it will cause a revolution immediately and I'm talking say Revolution what do you mean by that guns and bullets and who's doing that again Maga will come after the Democrats they'll be dropping like flies but until they release until they release him and let him do what he wants to do war is on So when you say M ...

... here is going to be some kind of [ __ ] movement because they will start stripping everyone of their [ __ ] rights yeah and so you you think it's all one-sided that that Maga is going to just annihilate people but I think you're wrong I think there are enough people that are going to be angry if Donald Trump is elected because [ __ ] will [ _ ...

... week in politics for those who may be joining us for the first time this is a show where two liberal adult children have uh conversations with their parents who are both Maga Q andon what else are you guys Pro Trump Pro 2024 that was magga um Pro Americans Pro Americans my dad is strangely silent and we have conversations with our parents abo ...

... ecessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culin with me is my sister Haley Pope a fellow Lefty and my parent Bob and Mary Lou Who are hardcore Maga Republicans who would die for Trump if he asked them to is that appropriate to say yes Dad yes my dad's a little sleepy today so he may be in and out of the show we'll s ...

... e him off the ballot we're gonna shoot them all everybody color we're gonna shoot them all what does that look like to you what it what it looks like to me we we are the Maga and what's gonna happen is we're gonna come out in droves and we're g to start putting bullets in these [ __ ] Democrats heads that that judge in Colorado looks like a [ ...

... ing the entire party hostage and therefore the entire house and therefore our entire United States political system we cannot pass bills because there are these militant Maga Republicans holding everyone hostage that's not functional either you guys are shaking your heads in agreement but that's not functional our government doesn't function ...

... ssary conversation I am Chad Colton you are with me and my family Haley Pope and Mary Lou and Bob Colton my sister Haley is a fellow Lefty and my parents are deep Q Anon Maga supporters we have a conversation every week about the topic political news of the week my dad for those just listening was flipping off the camera you can also watch th ...

... me to the necessary conversation my name is Chad colchen I am a I don't know what I am if I'm left-leaning or not but I'm certainly not right leaning I'm certainly not a Maga Republican like my parents Mary Lou and Bob who are here with me today you're a communist oh Lord there we go And So It Begins my sister is not here today she is unfortu ...

... e is my sister Haley Pope both of us are left leaning liberal Communists as our father likes to put it and with us as always is my mom Mary Lou my dad Bob who are Q Anon Maga to the core uh die hard I don't even know if you call it Republican do you guys consider yourselves Republican yes no American okay that's all right so I thought it was ...

... 'm Chad culture with me as always as my sister or Haley Pope and my parents Bob and Mary Lou cultured my sister and I are left leaning liberals my mom and dad are Q Anon Maga Republicans and every week we talk about the four biggest issues in politics and the world and try to settle our differences and it never works but we keep coming back w ...

... Kultgen, Haley Pope now. She's not with us here today. She has some important business, but we are left-leaning. Our parents, Bob and Mary Lou, are right-leaning, QAnon, MAGA supporters, and we force ourselves to have a 1-hour conversation about politics every week so that we don't lapse back into a situation where we are not talking to each ...

... sister Haley Pope we are left leaning liberals and we are having conversations for one hour every week with my mom and dad Bob and Mary Lou Who are deep Q Anon Red State Maga Trump supporters mark uh we were gone for two weeks my sister was on vacation I had a live show for another podcast I do called doozy but we are back today to cover the ...

... onversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culture and with me is my sister Haley Pope and my parents Bob and Mary Lou culture my parents are deep Q Anon Maga Trump supporters my sister and I are not and uh conversations between our family have been strained for the past oh six to ten years but now we're forcing ourselves to h ...

... necessary conversation I'm Chad Colton with me this week is my sister Haley we are both lefties and we are having conversations with our parents who are both deep Q Anon Maga Trump supporters and uh we talk about political issues we are family that's correct talking about political issues across the Divide now last week we didn't have an epis ...