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Did you see that [ __ ] I did. Wow. What? Whose side you on on that one? Um well, I'm a small business owner and she's a Goliath, so I mean, take a guess. So, Kelly Clarkson walked into some [ __ ] called Art Art of Play or something. I don't know. They sell like little animatronics and puzzles and magic and [ __ ] Um she went in there and wanted to buy something and I they didn't sell it to her. I wasn't there. I don't know the story, but she comes to Twitter with her eight million followers and says, "Like this store treated me like Pretty Woman
in the scene where they won't sell me the dress." Yeah. Um and I didn't get the thing I wanted and you should never shop here. And then the small business said, um "That shit's not for sale. It's like a permanent fixture in the store, uh but we told her like we could find her something comparable." So, she has like come back to that and said, "Like okay, fine. Whatever. You're a [ __ ] liar. I literally said, 'Is it for sale?' because there was a price tag on it and it's like $15,000 and they said, 'It's $15,000, but we can find you something comparable.'" And she's
claiming that they like looked her up and down like she was a poor person. Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. So, I wasn't there. I didn't see it.
Exactly. Welcome to our live. We're talking a little bit about Kel- Kelly Clarkson here. We have a rare opportunity, all three of us here tonight. Let's jump into some of these comments. [laughter] Are you ready? First up, PersonHuman6235. Hey guys, just wondering if you guys have any favorite great guests so far or folks you hope will return. Love all of you. Heart emoji.
Um Peppermint is probably my favorite guest so far. I would love to have her back. Anybody as a guest This our favorite so far. We like that. That's not true. [laughter]
That's not true. All right. Um Kim Williamson, 9571 rap influencers fear legal action. Oh, rap. Republican influencers fear legal action after saying Talerico was let out of mental institution. Nope, he was at a concert. Now they're deleting all posts. Yeah, have you seen this? This is happening right now basically.
Mom just asked. She said Tagliere is missing. [laughter] I said, "Who the [ __ ] is Tagliere?" Tagliere? Talerico. And he was at Kacey Musgraves concert.
Yeah, so everybody was was saying that all these Republican MAGA influencers like, "He was in a mental institution." No, no, no, no. Guess what? He was. He was because someone called and asked and they have it on a recorded line that he was dismissed on this particular night. So, we need to let a couple face go to see more about this. Who's lying? Who's telling the truth? Was he in the mental hospital? Was he not?
All right. He was not. Let me I'll put it in he was, we wish him well. He needs help it sounds like. Okay.
I'm going to put this in our list for next week already. This is going to be for episode 179. Tagliere. Yeah, did Tagliere really go to a mental mental institution?
Tagliere. I can't believe What Where did that name come from? Tagliere? I just It came in my brain. I have already taken my melatonin and it's a problem. Tagliere.
Okay. All right. Talerico. Jolie Abreu, thank you very much. Um two ICs and one palm. Hot take. Trump's increasingly crazy antics like now wanting to change more ocean names. You saw that, right? He wants to change the Pacific Ocean to the Trump Ocean. Is because the midterms are rigged and he knows it's a done deal.
Mhm. Midterms rigged? Yes no? No. Oh my god. We're already almost at capacity for comments. Um that was fast. Was Um Mickey here.
Malouski, I think it's cuz you're here, Mom. Mary Lou, do you have a hard time believing social media is trying to trick you now because they were right that corporate media was biased?
Um I'll let's hope that, I guess. I I think social media is a hard little path to weave in and out of and know it's true. Yes.
Okay. Jack Zilkin Mary Lou is right on let them nuke LA. Trump was sarcastically mocking an anti-war stance. Show Mary Lou how to resist manufactured outrage e.g. the Converse ad.
We We did see that. Didn't we, Haley? The KKK shoe ad. Yeah, I did see that. But I appreciate that, Jack. c y l k i n Mary Lou is right on let them nuke LA. I've had several people tell me that. Yes, I have.
Okay. I hope every Democratic candidate gets to say the same thing and you have the same reaction. Okay. About Oklahoma City. Okay. All right. Beth's Chad Jack Osborne's pod trying not to die from 3 weeks ago with medium Tyler Henry. He talks in detail about an NDE he had recently in brain surgery. Haley, still waiting for your skin care. Praise hands emoji.
What is an Oh, near death experience? off the super chats. We already have way too many. I'm so sorry. Turning off the super chats now. Thank you for everybody who has put them in the queue. We will get through all of them, no matter how long it takes. Um near death experience is an NDE. I'm fascinated with these. Dad had one. He literally died and came back and claims to have
I ain't seen [ __ ] Yeah, he's talked a little bit about it. Yeah, I don't believe it. Do you ask him about it?
Well, he asked me not to, but he said women were over the top of him or something. There was women over the top, which the CPR woman was the one that saved his life, so maybe. Haley, what's your skin care?
I don't know. I just wash my face, drink water, and I'm vegan. Do you soap? goo on. You must have goo. Yeah, she puts
I wash my face. Just like [ __ ] that you buy at like CVS. I use an exfoliating sponge. I get out and dry my face off. I use a rose water toner. After that, I apply two different eye creams right here, and then a serum to my entire face.
Okay. And then a light lotion, and then a retinol lotion, and then sunscreen. That's not just I wash my face. A little more than washing your face and drinking water.
It It takes me like 3 minutes. Okay, well, that's good. It's beautiful. The Theler Tiza, sorry about that. Hello from Pakistan. You're big inspiration, Haley.
Thank you. Thank you. Hope you're doing well. Here's another Haley in 2Z. Mary Lou, why Donald Trump only leader being {slash} scared of being blackmailed {slash} threatened over Epstein files?
Why is Donald Trump the only leader being scared of? I don't think he's the only one being scared. There's all kinds of people that are in there.
But why is he scared? I don't think he is. to hide. He's always said, "Let him come out. Let him be released." All right. Um Kel is the king. Chad, I just turned 29 for the first time. Congrats. Can each of you think of a good memory from around that age? I probably sold my first book or movie or TV show right around that age, I think. Um I remember that time being pretty fun.
First getting into the Writers Guild, first getting some getting in some meetings with some interesting people and [ __ ] What do you guys got?
I had babies in the 20s and I loved every second of it. I could go I could go back in a heartbeat. I would.
I actually think I got my black belt in taekwondo at 29 and then [ __ ] up my ACL doing a running jump kick to break that board during that test. So, I [ __ ] demolished my ACL at 29 um and had to [ __ ] slow roll after that. So.
Yeah. While raising three kids. I'd have to put those [ __ ] I'm on crutches with a brace. I got to get these [ __ ] dressed, give them breakfast, get them to school. We lived in in Colorado at the time. It was snowy and [ __ ] I don't know. It was a nightmare. ACL bust.
Um there you go. Thinly sliced ham 09, when is the TNC diamond going to start? Uh I don't think ever. The diamond thing was a thing that I did on 10-minute podcast with Will and Tommy where we wound the show down by trying to carve off the audience as much as we could and then we would give the show like the YouTube feed and the the [snorts] um RSS feed and all that to one listener.
We gave it to someone. Um I don't think we will do that with this feed. But thank you for the question. More More on ic
Moronic. Moronic. Moronic moronic moronic. Tagliere. [laughter] You said tagliere. Tagliere. Tagliere. When Mary Lou says I know in my heart, can you ask how when Trump is a stranger to her? Yeah, you said in this last week, I know in my heart Trump doesn't want to bomb an American city. How do you know that?
I guess when I say that I mean I kind of I feel it in my heart. That's what I feel. I should say feel it.
[snorts] Not that it's in my heart, but I feel. You guys watching this show on Netflix called Below? Uh-uh. No. With Josh Hartnett?
No. No. Okay. What's it about? Tagliatelle. Um monsters in the water in a in like a fishing town in Newfoundland. I'll check it out. I like monsters in the water. X O M N A O X X. Mary Lou, you say loving the US means supporting the president or the president and US equal. What's the difference between the United States and the president? Does not liking the president mean you hate the US?
[snorts] Wow, that's a good that's several good questions mixed in there. Um yeah, I do think I get a bit confused with that.
Okay. You know, whether I I love our America, but I don't love some of the things that Trump is doing. Um yeah, those are all good questions and I don't know how to answer them. I'm sorry. I've taken my melatonin.
Okay, the melatonin defense. Leanne 888, Mary Lou he lied 30,000 times in his first term. Thoughts, love the pod. Wow, have no I have no idea. 30,000? Serious.
He lies every day. 30,000. He lies every day. Yeah. I'm not I'm not going [clears throat] to say I'm going to look that up. 30,000 lies.
Look it up. Wow. I'll look it up. Tom Thomas Hamilton 402, thank you very much. Haley is more like Bob than she wants to admit. Chad is more like Mary Lou. I've been watching for a while and over the past 3 months I've seen a huge change in Mary Lou. It hurt my heart when she was sad the other day and feel deep empathy when she talks about her experience.
What about what was I talking about that they felt sad? It hurt my heart. And I do believe Haley is more like Bob and Chad is more like me. I do believe that.
I agree. Everybody sees it. Yeah. Haley got that dog in her. That's fine. I'll take it. I ain't changing. [ __ ] it. I don't care.
That's just like Dad. Dad would say that. That's right. Yeah. I remember one time when I told Dad when I thought when I first started like being like, oh, I'm autistic. That explains a lot. I remember telling Dad like, you might be too, dude. And he just goes, "You ain't going to change me."
[laughter] You literally just said that. Haley. Yeah. I have I am I'm open to suggestion, but there are things I am unwilling to bend. Like you won't [ __ ] change me.
That's your father. You didn't fall far from the tree. Oh, well. Creatures Origins, Chad, your Donald John Trump impression is funny, but I've noticed it gives Mary Lou an out and allows her to laugh at the impression and dismiss direct quotes instead of focusing on the content of Trump's own words. So be it. I enjoy doing it and part of this show is trying to make each other laugh so that we don't [ __ ] slit each other's throats. I do think like making fun of all of this stuff to some degree is for me it's necessary. It's how I cope with the the horrors of it. So I
will continue to do it. My apologies. Gin and Tonic, Mary Lou Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize because Obama won one and ran in 2016 because Obama mocked him at the 2011 Correspondents Dinner. He's a petty vindictive child who never lets a perceived slight pass.
Yeah, I never thought of it that way, but that could be correct. I never thought of it that way. All right. Like the tattooer, Mary Lou, you want to execute the armed gunman from Fort Hood, but want to reward Putin with land for the murders he's caused. Why don't you see Putin as worse than a lone gunman?
Um gunman premeditated, he knew he was going to You don't think Putin launching a war is premeditated? Um I see the lone gunman more as he was just going to kill them one by one.
You know that Putin has killed way more than the lone gunman. Yes. Yes. Okay. Including children. And like war crimes. All kinds of war crimes happening.
Right. That's way worse than one [ __ ] dude. Shooting is worse than this guy. Trump blew up a a school full of children in Iran.
I don't know. I guess cuz it's I don't know. I don't know why I see it that way. Okay. I do. What is it
You're You're in the cult of Maga. Cult of Maga. Oh my goodness. Mike the Michael, Mary Lou, you have 36 clear X's on the X website against Trump. As a thought exercise, can you name 10 quick X's you had against Biden during his presidency? Can you do it, Michael? 10 X's against Biden.
Quickly. He could not walk. He would trip. He did not Doesn't matter. have um a lot of pressers. Like he didn't come out and have pressers or have uh press greet him.
Okay. He and his son um um sold us out to China. Okay. Um he's on the phone, said to someone or wasn't even on the phone. It was during one of his trips. He paid someone off like uh $600,000 or something to say something [clears throat] or do something.
Okay, that's very vague, but fine. He was on the phone once. That's okay. he likes to eat ice cream and he goes to bed late.
So, you've got four X's so far. Um I just I didn't feel him as a strong president. He was weak. So, you don't have to like that.
he's he slept a lot, too, and was not seen in public for weeks at a time. Seven. I'm on my second. in public is kind of like the presser's one. You're doubling up here. So, you can't get 10, but on Trump you got 36.
No, I think he pardoned he pardoned a lot of people that I would not have pardoned. So, Trump. But, I don't we're not comparing him to Trump. We're just saying can you get 10 X's? So far, the answer is no. And you have 36.
eight or nine. I was at eight or nine. is it? Okay, move on. The answer is no, she cannot. Caleb Peterson 181, I'd love for you to speak with Daniella M. Young, former cult member and army vet, wrote The Culting of America, was a guest on Monty's Pod, like Hassan, but could be a good guest because she disagrees with his methods. You know this one?
No. Never heard of her, either. We'll potentially keep that in mind. Can FX28, what scares Mary Lou about leaving MAGA, if anything? It wouldn't scare me, but I'm not gosh, I don't think I am. I think I'm a strong Republican. I talked about this.
I can literally see your Trump hat right behind you. You are. [laughter] You're in the cult of MAGA. No other [ __ ] person is wearing that hat, but the MAGA people.
I wear it. This is my podcasting room. All my Trump stuff is in here. Yeah. There is Yeah, whatever. Whatever. And my book One Betrayal Too Many is over there. I have all my little things that people have given me are in this room, including my MAGA hat.
All right. Dubols, thank you very much. Mary Lou, hi. Glad you're here. Please Google difference between nationalism and patriotism. Nationalists can't authority. Patriots can and do uh decisions from leaders if it's not what's best for everyone in that country. Also, please don't drop Chad and Haley off at the fire station.
[laughter] I I won't ever drop them off. I will never drop them off anywhere. And yes, I will Google the difference. Thank you.
No, it said right here. Nationalists don't question authority. Patriots can and do. So, a patriot is somebody who's like, "I'm for the ideals of the country. And if that means the leadership is against the ideals, then I'm against the leadership." Nationalists are like, "Who Whatever the president says, whatever the authoritarian dictator says, I'm on their side." So, you are a nationalist, not a patriot.
Okay. I was just going to say no, I am a patriot. I've always told you I am that. So, then in that case, by this definition, you would denounce Trump because he is ruining the country. You even agree with your 36 X's 36 X's that
Who cares? Yeah, whatever. Whatever. I can still say he's my president, but disagree with him. Yeah. Okay. I like that though. That was good. Thank you.
Mercy, welcome back. Mary Lou, we misses you. The 6:00 a.m. Wednesday ambush was heartbreaking to watch. Chad and Haley are cruel. I reported them to local authorities for elderly
[laughter] Soon they will be behind bars where they belong. Mercy one, I love you. I've always loved you. I love you to pieces.
Yeah. By the way, the 6:00 a.m. ambush is on me. It's 6:00 a.m. for me, not them. Soon they will be behind bars where they belong. No, they don't they don't belong there. They don't belong at the
crack of dawn. at the fire station or the the you know, Yellowstone station wherever they take them. No, they don't belong there. I love her though. She's funny.
Haley into Z. Mary Lou, if someone mocked you and and Chad said they didn't mean it, would you feel cared for? Okay, let me get this question. If someone mocked me
Yeah. and Chad said they didn't mean it, would you feel cared for? Yes. I guess. Yes. No, they're saying like somebody makes fun of you and Chad's like they didn't mean it. How would you feel about that?
Oh, yeah, I wouldn't feel very good about that. Okay, that's what you do with Trump. When Trump says he's going to blow up LA and you're like he didn't
mean it. You're doing that to me. That's what this question is about. But he didn't mean it literally. Okay. [laughter] He did not.
There you go. You have your answer or one-handed Amazonian. Chad, since I know you're into woo woo stuff like me, I'm dying to know if you have thoughts on the quantum immortality theory. Look it up if not. Cheers. I don't know anything about quantum immortality theory or maybe I do. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I think I might have some
Infinity that you live infinity. Um I don't know enough about it to speak on it, but I will look that up. Two IC's one palm YYC. Navarro says Canada should stay out of US politics yet Republicans are funding the separatist movement in my province, Alberta. Apparently, respecting another country's sovereignty only goes one way.
What are they doing? Funding? How do they fund that? I don't understand. By giving money to them. Huh. You see? So Republicans, at least per what two IC's one palm is saying here, Republicans are funding this movement in Canada. A political movement in Canada, which they should not be doing. That goes against the sovereignty of another country. Okay. Megan Herman 3276 one of the most difficult things to do is hold compassion for people who voted for this. Let's just say I usually channel Haley. I don't want to lead with love when Maga doesn't.
And that is in my opinion a piece of why we're at this divide right now in the country. One side has to be the bigger side. One side has to say
It's not that It's not that easy. It's not that easy. Like you are a hetero cis white man and that informs all of your decisions.
Of course. So you don't live like some other people live. Therefore it's easier for you to Kumbaya [ __ ] than it is other people.
Yeah. That's your new word. I will never be that person. I want I want to I want for all of this to stop by any means necessary.
Mhm. I'll just say that. Let's come together and Kumbaya. But it's not like violence and in my opinion violence and fighting will it doesn't make it stop. It makes it worse.
I guess. I mean if you take out all the people that are doing it does it make it worse? Yeah. How? Because it
Cuz you're killing people. first of all never take out all the people who are doing it. Who You're going to kill everybody who voted for Donald Trump? Okay. Now you really are just like Dad. Jesus Christ.
[laughter] Um Adrian Hager or Hagar or Hadjer or Hajer. If Mary Lou stopped supporting Trump tomorrow, what would that actually fix in your family? And what problems between you would still be there?
Mhm. I think we would immediately get along better because we don't like it's hard as anybody out there who who has a family member that is on the opposite side of the aisle, whichever that may be for you. It's difficult to like wrap your head around the fact that this person that you love who has been in your life since birth views the world and indeed reality in a completely different way given the same information that you you both have access to. So, it isn't even about just like political ideology to me. It's about like Mom, I think you've been brainwashed into believing a reality that doesn't
exist. Right. And I believe that I raised two great kids and how can they think the way they think now? Because I raised you correct and I thought I raised you right and now you don't believe the same stuff I believe.
Correct. Um Cider and Port, hello from Ireland. Ireland, Mary Lou, Trump will always be your president even if you denounce him. It can be done.
A lot of people have told me that. I know. Thank you. Poppy 652, Mary Lou, who Sorry, who do you think loved Germany more? The Nazis or the people got fighting against the Nazis?
Hm. The people fighting against them, I think. Okay. There you go. So, in this scenario, flash forward to 2026 where we have Nazis in the White House. You even admitted that. The Hegseth thing where he is dressed like Hitler and doing his Hitler speech and changed the eagle to be the Nazi eagle. You even acknowledge that we have Nazis in the White House now. Trump is one of them. So, who is more American? The Nazis in the White House or the people fighting against them?
I think the people are fighting to keep our country good against the bad people. Right. But do you think Nazis are bad? Yes.
And you think they're in the White House? I'm not sure. We just did this last week. I showed you that picture of Hegseth. I showed you the new Department of War logo that is literally made in the image of the Nazi eagle. You said, yes, that looks like Hitler.
It does look like it. Yeah, I said it did look like it. You are correct. Okay. So, we've got Nazis in the White House.
that we're all fighting for a better country. Okay. [laughter] Haley in 2Z, Mary Lou, how many birds would have to be in your house for you to believe someone put them there intentionally?
Mhm. Maybe 200. Oh. 199 wouldn't do it? Right. 50, 60, no. [laughter] 200. Dan C 8 388 Please don't have your dad back. It's so nice without his constant racism and combativeness. Mary Lou has made great strides during his absence and the pod can be tough to watch when he's in it.
Mhm. This is what I want you to do for dad, if you may. Like once we do our show, take one of the questions or something that that we talked about and just ask him and shoot it and I'll put it up on social media.
Like just let him rant for like 45 seconds. can still kind of I am curious about his opinions about all this stuff. Um you know, what he thinks and I do miss talking to him about it. But I tend to agree with this. Like he derails the entire episode every time. Even that one where he was just in the background where you had to go into the kitchen because your internet was [ __ ] up. He derailed that thing.
I thought back, remember when I did one topic, like I took a topic and did it did the research and then we talked about it and then dad tried to take one and do it. It was disaster.
Yeah. Do you remember this? Yes, I do. Yes. Um Where was I? sorry, Mr. Underhill Chicago, thank you very much. Pluto time 1115. Mary Lou, eye for an eye is an Old Testament {slash} Code of Hammurabi, not Christian. Jesus explicitly says, "Do not do that." Matthew 5:38, instead turn the other cheek. Are you aware of this? Eye for an eye is not a Jesus thing.
was was a Jesus thing. I did. Have you ever read the Bible? No, parts of it, not the whole Bible. Good Christian. Well, she's Catholic. They don't even read the
I'm a Catholic. Right. Okay, y'all are being mean to me already. I've got 3 more minutes. [laughter] Uh gin and tonic, Mary you can't you got to stay. All these questions are for you.
stay the whole time because I have No, listen to me. I told you I'd stay for 30 minutes. I have someone changing of the guard. I have to change the guard.
well, let's see how many of these we can get through. Just chill. Mary Lou, would you hire Katie Zaccaria or Zacharias don't know what her name is there, knowing she posted support for suspending constitutionally protected due process and giving Trump a constitutionally prohibited third term? She's the White House press secretary that's coming in. She has posted things saying people should not have due process and that Trump should run for a third term. Both things on this show that you disagree with.
Yes, I disagree with that. Both illegal. So, you don't support her. I haven't even heard her speak yet. I'm going to give her a shot and see what her debut looks like.
All right. Um Da- Dabbi Chotub Dabbi Kotub Dabbi Kotub, I don't know how to say this one, sorry. Dabbi Dabbi Chotub TV. That's probably
Dabbi Chotub TV. Tagliere Tagliere As a Mexican immigrant and US citizen, let me just be clear, driving in the United States isn't unlike driving in Mexico. You might not know the pronunciation of roads, but you can drive the same way. Love you, Libsibs. Thank you very much.
That's true. We've been in other countries where we cannot read the road signs, but it's pretty clear what you do. Same. On you, Taylor1141. Mary Lou, you've denounced Trump's cabinet members, e.g., Bondi, Hegseth, Noem, and Ice, but never Trump himself or called for his impeachment beyond X's. With respect, how is this not cult mentality?
There's things that I Well, he did get rid of Bondi, and I said that. I said if she wasn't doing the job, she'd be gone. He did do that. And Noem. He did do that. He has not yet on the other one.
But he replaced Bondi with Todd [ __ ] Blanche. I know. We've been criminal attorney. I know. We've been over that. Um I just don't think I'm in a cult. I'm sorry.
Louis K Y 2008, it is ironic that Mary Lou's last name is Culton. Cult. I love you, Mary Lou. I call you my parasocial grandma to my friends. Let's bring her
Well, I don't like that you said the cult part, but thank you very much. Thanks. [laughter] Um Lord Universe 357, thank you. Chad, Access and Allies fan? I haven't played that in a minute. Haley, active duty member from Crowley, voting Talarico and Hina Hosa. Proud of you and the business, Mary Lou. I'm miserable as a military member under this admin.
Wow. Yeah. I've heard a few people say that. I've heard a few military people say that. There you go. Please consider the vote for your senator. Make sure he was not in a mental hospital. Let's make sure of that.
Ken Paxton pardons pedophiles. I know, but do you want someone that needs mental help? He was It's in a [ __ ] mental health facility. That is all made up.
No, as of an hour ago, it was for real. And they have it was for real? recorded They have a recorded line where someone called and asked about it. And the lady that answered the phone said, "Yes, he was dismissed, but he's not here now."
No. James Talarico, the Texas Democrat nominee for the US Senate, was not in a mental health facility. Social media speculation, including posts from figures like Spencer Pratt and Caroline Wren, question Talarico's whereabouts during a 9 to 12-day campaign absence. The official campaign explanation, the campaign stated he was recovering at home from the flu.
Right. Uh that's it. There are no credible sources of official records supporting the rumors of a psychiatric hospitalization. Yeah, well, why are they throwing out Mason, Ohio, and that even the name of the mental place he was in?
So, you believed he was in a mental hospital, but you didn't believe that Donald Trump was like being hospitalized for all these tests and [ __ ] right?
No, I did. I did believe that he went in for testing. I never said that he was not. But you're now promoting this idea that, at least as I am looking here, no one can confirm it. Not even the hospital they said he was in. The hospital they said
I'm telling you I've read it on several different sites. and it's lies. The hospital that they said he was in has come out and said he was never here.
But where's this recorded line coming from? What recording? lady said, "Yes, uh a let Someone had called in to ask information about it." And on the recorded line, it said that he was dismissed the night prior that evening.
All right. So, let's let's say that he did go there. Uh-huh. Got the treatment, and now he's good. Good to go. They released him. Wouldn't you rather have somebody who is like, "I need to go get some help, gets the help, comes out, they release him, everything's good to go? Wouldn't you rather have that person than Ken [ __ ] Paxton who is corrupt from top to bottom and as Haley says, is pardoning pedophiles? I thought you were all for protecting the children.
I am. But they're both lying. And so you'll vote for the the guy who protects pedophiles? lie, the campaign lie that said he had the flu when really he was in a mental
Okay, fine. Okay, look, I'm not saying that's what happened, but let's say it was. You would rather vote for a guy who pardons pedophiles than a guy who lied about going to a mental health facility.
Ken Paxton was impeached also by his party. Well, I believe there are not six different genders. I believe that God is number one and non-binary. Um so I believe a lot of things that I don't believe of Chad, what's wrong with you?
I have a guest. Oh [laughter] god, scare me. I had to pick him up. Chad scared me. I thought you were came. He wanted to be on the podcast. He say, he say, "Ted Cruz was not in a mental health institution." [laughter]
Okay, that cat's head is as large as yours. Yeah, he's such a good guy. All right, ow ow ow ow. Okay. Next up, Absolute Idiotic, Mary Lou does Bob like cowboy movies and if so, what's his favorite?
Of course, Gunsmoke, um uh Rawhide, Bonanza, all of the old ones. But Andy and Mayberry, I know that's not cowboy movie, but that's one of his favorites, Andy and Mayberry.
All right. I really do have to run. Jacob Guyer 525, Haley hated Dr. Hasson, lol. I know she did. [laughter] I don't think he liked her much either.
Yeah, and you're not wrong. liked her. Listen, I'll [ __ ] call a [ __ ] or a mile away, okay? I don't give a [ __ ] if he's telling us he's an expert at 50 years. No, full of [ __ ]
You weren't very nice to him saying that he was full of [ __ ] and that he was be. And I don't have to be. He told me to shut up multiple times. "Shayna, let me tell your mom." And then he just talked about himself. So
Oh my god, okay. Yeah, I didn't like him and I don't have to. Oh my god, I do have to run. leaving? All of these other questions are for you.
Chad, I have to run. I told you guys 30 minutes. I can't. I got to come back. have to. Go go do the changing of the guard and come back.
I can't do that. I love you. I have to go. Do I just X out? All right. I'll be on longer next time. How do I X Do I just X out?
You're going to get so mad. Yes, just X out. We love you, too. All of these questions are for you. I'm sorry. I told you guys 30 minutes.
But you're you're awake and coherent. Why can't you just stay for 30 more minutes? That's all I'm I cannot changing of the guard. Okay, love you. Bye. All right, bye.
Um John Pullen 1704 Chad, have you seen any of the AI memes made by Mr. New Noob Newburger? Check them out. The wicked one is quite funny. I don't know about it.
Mhm. Remove Mom's it's frozen face there. I haven't seen it. Um David Cabanas 9121 Mary Lou saying I'm sorry you feel that way is a condescending remark and not a formal apology. Please don't say that unless you consider others' feelings. I agree. Chica Chica 07 is there an increase in super chat money when Mary Lou is on? I don't think it is any different. It just goes faster. We I always like try to limit to a numerical amount of them cuz I know roughly how long it takes to get through them. And I [ __ ] up. There's more here. It It just went a lot faster.
Um but I always try to cut it off at the same point. Her Hobby Studio Mary Lou, you say XYZ won't happen. Isn't the thought enough? If someone has thoughts about kids, isn't the thought disgusting enough? This is something that I tried to tell her all the time when she's like, "Well, that's not going to happen." But it's like, "But Trump's trying to do it."
Yeah. Hex out is trying to have a public execute. What's not going to happen? But they want it to. She doesn't ever draw that conclusion. Um Kayla Marie one love, if someone shows you 40 times they don't share your sense of right and wrong, how bad does number 41 have to be before 10 good things stop mattering? Agreed, 100%. The volume has to eventually crush her.
Right? I don't think so. No. [laughter] No. I think nothing will do it. Um Trevor Pull 9804, Mary Lou, how could you literally cult member? How could you literally cult member? Love you, Eileen Shad. I'm not sure what that one means. Do you get that one?
Mhm. [clears throat] Mhm. I don't quite understand that one, Trevor Pull. Sorry. Kel is the king. Mary Lou, if someone tries to murder you but they fall to make it happen, is that cool with Oh, fail to make it happen, is that cool with you? That's the logic you keep using with Trump trying to do stuff. Exactly. That's a good one. I'm going to bring that up next time. I wish she was [ __ ] didn't leave.
Yeah, I know. Substantially lower Gs perks for all Americans. Substantially lower Gs. Lower I don't know what that one is. Why act like Nazis when we are BFFs with Israel? Why act like Nazis when we are BFFs with Israel? I'm not sure I understand this one. Bianca Flores me, or yeah, I think that's right. Mary Lou cannot hear your Trump voice. She tunes it out and won't remember what he said later. Just read it and practice the anime villain voice later.
I can't. That's how I hear him now. Sorry. That's what I do. Chad's commercial summaries. Mary Lou, why do you never take Trump at his word? Do you think he's not capable of saying what he means? I think she only takes him at his word when the word is something she already agrees with. It's like if he says he wants to bomb LA, oh he's just kidding.
I mean, yeah. She It's again, she's in a cult, so dear leader is never wrong. Eric 882683, can you say hi to Oscar? We watch you all the time. Hi Oscar.
Hi Oscar. Hello Oscar. Gin and Tonic, Mary Lou, the Old Testament's eye for an eye limits punishment to harm, but Jesus teaches turning the other cheek and mercy. Doesn't Christianity follow Jesus' teachings over those of the Old Testament? We already had a question kind of like this earlier on. Um yeah, I don't think she gets it. As she announced, she has not read the Bible and doesn't understand it.
Yeah, I'm going to maintain she's not a Christian, but whatever. Same. Bring Mark the Horizon. Did you see the Trump statue called the orange plague? Yes, I did. Did you see this? [laughter]
Yeah. Yeah. That was designed by a Danish artist and now stands in the EU Parliament in Strasbourg, France. Maybe you could show it to your mom. Greetings from Germany. Thank you. Hello. Um Yeah, hilarious. It's this this statue of him just like a fat piece of [ __ ] basically. Just a blob creature. Um and they put it in the
[laughter] parliament. But that type of [ __ ] is what Like mom doesn't understand that. that though because it illustrates like how they feel about it.
Exactly. The global reaction to it. And these are our allies. These are countries that we're [ __ ] out in Europe that are like putting up statues of him like a a Baron Harkonnen like gross blob guy.
ruining the world. Correct. Capybara 0027, Mary Lou, I'm a 13-year veteran deployed overseas, etc. Had friends die in combat. I did not join to fight for my country. I joined because I wanted a college education. Am I any less of a patriot? It's a great question. And like I don't think my mom understands that either that it's like the military isn't all like people who are like, "I want to go kill people in other countries. Give me a machine gun." The military is the biggest I think it's the the biggest employer of people in the United States of America.
Mhm. I want to say that is accurate. I could be wrong, but I I don't think I am. I I remember reading that somewhere. And many of the jobs in the military are not shooting people with guns. There's a lot of like logistical support and science stuff and computer [ __ ] and mechanical [ __ ] and Army Corps of Engineers, all that stuff, you know.
Right, but mom just thinks they're all in foxholes with bayonets. Exactly. Ben Carmichael O, funny idea I know won't happen. Will Sasso does a listener question as Alex Jones law.
[laughter] Yeah, I don't think he would do that. Um, Kayla Marie one love, if pardoning a sex trafficker is an absolute deal breaker for you, does it not bother you that he publicly refused to rule it out when asked when asked? I think you're talking about Ghislaine Maxwell.
Mhm. Yeah, she has said that that is a a red line for her. If he pardons Ghislaine Maxwell, she will denounce him, so she says. Sandra Burton, 3255, loved the horse facts today, Mary Lou. I wish she was here to hear this. Do you ever worry that one day you'll look back and feel responsible for supporting or contributing to the horrific things happening in America?
I don't think she does. No, she thinks that it's the things that are like objectively bad that not even she can explain away, I think she views as this kind of acceptable downturn that will get better again to, you know, we have to pay higher prices now so that eventually everything's free, that type of [ __ ] Uh strong delusion. Cosmo 234 for have you ever thought about taking the 12 axis political test with Mary Lou? It has 36, 60, and 240 questions. Do it on live stream possibly?
I don't even know about this. Mhm. Never heard of it. Um Ready 5547, Mary Lou have you heard anything about the E. Jean Carroll whistler the whistleblower? Remember when she thought that there was some whistleblower that was going to come out and tell everybody that Democrats paid $10,000 or something to E. Jean Carroll to lie.
Not really, yeah. Also, have you guys considered an extra episode during the week for members? Uh yes, I think we're at capacity. Doing two episodes a week is difficult. Every once in a while we throw in a third on Friday. Um but yeah, I have considered doing like a Patreon or a subscription thing. I may start a YouTube subscription where I do ad-free episodes. So, it'd be the episode without any ads in it.
But, I don't know if we have the time, honestly, to do another episode. I know you don't, right? Not unless it's early in the morning before I have to go to work.
Another [ __ ] 5:30 a.m. assault for me. DJ Dumont, lighter note, Haley I just saw Haley at the Hollywood Bowl. And what was your favorite part of her show you went to? It was hearing Just a Lover for me.
Um my favorite part [snorts] Shooting Stars. I could really use a wish right now. I don't know. It was just it's like her show was just really good. I didn't I don't know. It was all really good.
Yeah. Good show. Mine would be Shooting Stars if I ever saw her. No, she didn't She did sing that actually at the Hollywood Bowl.
sky on a shooting star when you need a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now. No. I could be a shooting star with one two stars and another star.
No. Everybody is a star right now flying around in the sky. 10 FX 28 Chad Halley, do y'all think you could swap lives for a day?
There's no way you could do my life. [laughter] I could do mine easily, I THINK. THERE IS no [ __ ] way you could do this. No [ __ ] way.
have some trouble with some of the the technical skills required to to put together podcasts and stuff, but I could figure it out.
It But also you need like depending on the day, if I'm doing stuff on my other podcast for reality TV, you definitely don't have the knowledge required to do that podcast about reality TV.
say let's say we trained each other in our respective lives for a day or two and then we swap. I don't think so. There's no way I could bake [ __ ] even after a day or two of training. There's no way you could talk about reality TV at a expert level with a day or two of training. It's taken me about eight years to get where I am in terms of my understanding of it.
I still think you'd have a harder time than me swapping lives. Oh, for sure. You have more responsibility. You got kids and a family and all that [ __ ] All I got Scobby. You saw him.
I also manage like a kitchen full of people every day all day. Yeah, I don't want to go anywhere really. I don't like leaving this room. Um bird Mary Lou, is every woman accusing Trump a liar? Every Epstein file a lie? Even if one is true, too much? Lots of evidence in case including a dress and DNA.
We talked about that. here to answer this, but yeah, we've we talked about that a bunch on this show. And she's just like, well, I just don't believe that woman. Which I guess invalidates the DNA evidence as well. Um Matt Hal 8518, love you guys so much. Rooting for you Mary Lou. I'm curious. What was the first thing Trump publicly did that you disagreed with? Mine would be the mocking of a disabled reporter publicly at one of his rallies. What would it have been for mom?
The Iran war, definitely. From day one she was against that. Um that might have been it. That's roughly when she started doing the X's, isn't it? 250 days ago, by the way. I know it seems like it's kind of a relatively new thing, but it ain't. It started in February.
Yeah, I don't know. Um Hippie Froth It No, Hippie from the 49th, sorry. Mary Lou, you said your family came the right way. Where and when did your fam did your fam hail? Curious about what was happening in the US the first time fam voted.
So her her her grandma came to Ellis Island from like Volga, Russia. Mhm. On a boat. Yeah. I don't know about dad's side. Where the [ __ ] did pop come from? Poland. Poland.
Yeah. So yeah, from Poland and Russia. Yeah. And dad's parents, I believe, were British. His biological parents were British and German? I don't know.
But all Ellis Island. I think so. Yeah. Um Desire by Note 5001. 5001. Hello from Omaha, Nebraska. Mary Lou, can you do an episode with the cult expert? Love y'all. Loved Friday's and today's episode. Good to see you all tonight. Also, Mary Lou, if you support women, why can you not believe Haley? This to me is one of the biggest questions that I I have of her. Is like a a lot of the show is really about like our familial connection, you know, overpowering our our at least in terms of what we talk about, potentially being more important than our political connections, but anytime
you say anything, especially like when you were talking about Trump in the elevator and all that [ __ ] she just discounts it.
Mhm. Yeah. I don't know. What are you going to do? Move on. All right. Captain Rad, immigration is a civil issue like how Trump has been found guilty in civil court. That's true, too. I need to make that point uh more to her. I always forget. Kayla Marie one love, did we ever hear back from the whistleblower claim that E. Jean Carroll case was paid Democratic orgs?
Didn't they promise proof? I have to [ __ ] remember that. Oh my god, my utensils. Where does my utensil? My [ __ ] utensil. [ __ ] Don't know where my utensil went. Victor Victor Lee on TV Vic Victor Lee on TV 1355, how did you guys feel about the cult doctor that you all had on earlier this [laughter] week? We know how Haley felt about him.
Yeah. I don't know. I don't I had mixed feelings about it. I think like he he spoke a lot about things, you know, and I'm like the whole time I was just kind of sitting there like is this part of his tactic or not? Like I don't know and I didn't want to interrupt it if he had some kind of strategy [snorts] to like get to Mom, you know, if part of that was rapport building and just saying like oh here's my life and here's the books I've written or whatever.
But um yeah, I thought we were going to talk more about like how Trump is a cult. I thought it was going to get more into that.
Mhm. But we didn't get it. Moon unit. Oh, sorry, go ahead. What do you got? I I you know, I didn't like him. I thought him he was condescending. He was full of himself. Uh I think he just wanted to talk more than he wanted to listen despite the fact that he said I'm a good listener. Um so I feel like no progress was made with mom whatsoever um and telling me to be quiet is not at all an appropriate approach to anything.
I totally agree. When he did that I was like, oh [ __ ] she's going to tear me a new [ __ ] [laughter]
I I bit my tongue several times. There were a lot of things that I you doing it. I could see your just like your face was like doing this [ __ ]
Yeah, no. Worst guest we've ever had. Moon unit, Mary Lou, you ask for Chad and Haley to always have an open mind and give a chance to any Republican. Uh when you would never give any Democrat a chance. That is correct. Um it is is very much a double standard how my mom perceives that stuff. Um Jane Adoll Mary Lou, if you were paid $100 a day to watch a 50-minute podcast hosted by American historian Heather Cox Richardson for a month, would you do it?
This could be easily [laughter] We're not crowdsourcing my mom to watch a [ __ ] podcast every day. I wonder if she would though. Like if if we if we assigned her homework.
No. She won't read [ __ ] books I've written. That's true. There's no way she's doing this. That's true. No way. Um Arizona Mountain Girl If is Mary Lou aware that ICE quote is where ICE quote is ICE quote is Oh, probably ICE quotes were increased by Trump this week from 2,000 to 3,000. Love the pod, guys. Yeah, she's under this weird misconception that the whole ICE thing is like being drawn down and it's not as bad. And in fact, it's being increased. And like we talked about on the show today, they're still [ __ ] shooting into cars with five-year-old kids in them.
She does not like ICE. I think she really does want to abolish, but she will not make the connection to Trump. Refuses to do that.
Yeah. Um ex- Extermivator 99. Hey guys, so good to see you. Chad, are you excited for the Labyrinth Secret Lair? [ __ ] no. Hayley, I had the same face and reaction as you on Friday with your guest.
Yeah, I don't know. That Labyrinth Secret Lair, it's coming out tomorrow 8:00 a.m. PDT. If you want my take on it, go to Soul Ringers. That's my Magic the Gathering YouTube channel. We did a whole video about it that came out a couple of days ago. And I tell you all my reasons for why I'm not buying it and I denounce it. Rebbi Row, thank you very much. Ashley Metcalf, Russia sells guns and ammunition to Iran and give them information on US military bases. Buying their diesel is giving our money to Iran in this war. 100% correct. And to I mean, China and Russia to me are like
always kind of in a toss-up of of who is our biggest enemy globally. And he's just [ __ ] handing them cash. Mhm.
It's insane. And no one sees it. Mariah, Hayley, I feel your anger so deeply. Comes with grieving the loss of who your parents were before Trump. Mary Lou, please come back and help your husband do the same. That ain't ever coming back, right?
No. Unless it's like deathbed, last moments. I'm sorry. I did wrong. He won't do that, though. No. No. His final moments are going to be like, [ __ ] you.
To the grave. [laughter] Yeah. Gin and [clears throat] Tonic, Mary Lou, the Old Testament's eye for an eye limits punishment to harm, but Jesus teaches turning the other cheek and mercy. Doesn't Christianity follow Jesus' teaching over the Old Testament? I think we've already seen this one. Yeah, we have discussed this. Thank you very much. Mr. Underhill Chicago, thanks for everyone's efforts in keeping fam together. You're welcome.
Uh I I truly feel like our family is a microcosm of the entire country. That this division that has happened is um It's wild. I just never have seen anything like this in my lifetime.
I rarely read like the [ __ ] that's coming up on the side right here, and I just looked over there and it said, "RUDY DIED."
[laughter] THAT STORY is immortalized in um God, I think we talked about it on 10-minute podcast. Or me and my buddy Will, we had another friend named Tommy Blacha who was like one of the funniest people I have ever met in my life. He co-created um Metalocalypse, if you remember that cartoon. He was the head writer for the WWE for a while. Conan O'Brien, just like a super smart, funny guy. And I told them the story of when our parents had this other little Chihuahua named Rudy. When that dog died, my dad called me, and he never [ __ ] calls me. So, I
was like, "What the hell?" I pick up the phone, and I just hear my dad go, "RUDY DIED!" SO, I told that story to Tommy, and then every time I have seen Tommy in any scenario after that, that's how he would like greet me.
"RUDY DIED!" [laughter] SO, THANK YOU. HE used to bite us. That He was a really bad dog. Rudy? He used to bite. I loved him.
He would draw blood. Mom had like Band-Aids on her her hands. I was still living with them when they had Rudy. know if you can see it or not, but this whole forum is just scar from Scobby, who's in the other room laughing at me.
Oh, wait. Somebody just said, "Look into the guest that we had on Friday. He's a good friend with J.K. Rowling." Oh, what? J.K. Rowling is a transphobe. You know that, right?
Yes, I do. And they're saying in the comments that he's hella transphobic. Oh my god. I don't know if that's true. That's just what I read. That's just what I read.
Praise be. Oh. Chad, I just want to call you out on a lie you said on today's episode. You referred to yourself as 50 years old when clearly you're no older than 26.
Okay. That's true. I aged myself up. I am 26 years old. Chris the girl 1013. Mary Lou, my mom was recently diagnosed with brain and lung cancer. I think that I was supposed to say because of the war, I can't afford gas to make the trip to see her. She could die and I won't be there. Please stop supporting Trump.
Oh man. really sorry to hear that. That's a terrible situation. Um made worse by Trump, of course. We hope he gets better and and well wishes to you and your family, obviously. Um Bob Joe 81. Hi all. Mary Lou, please whenever you can spare 25 minutes, please watch don't be a sucker. It's not an insult. I believe it. Will be every
Very very insightful. It's government made. Okay. Um yeah, I think that is an old documentary about propaganda. Like from the 50s, maybe. Um Eric 882683. Hey Haley, [clears throat] you're the best. Love you guys.
Thank you. I know I'm the best. I'm the best of the four. [laughter] I'm sitting right here. Cider and Port. Haley, what's your favorite country you visited outside the United States?
Oh my god, that's so hard. If I could move anywhere right now that I've been to and live there and could afford it, I would move to Switzerland in a heartbeat. Um I really loved Scotland and Iceland. Iceland is like a different world. Those are my top top three, but I've not traveled like everywhere, just mostly Europe.
All right. Ben Carmichael oh, Mary Lou said, "Why would Trump let the plague in our country?" Well, Trump did fire the pandemic response team leading to co- leading to COVID. So, yeah, he has the history. That's what I was trying to kind of get to today when I was like, "Remember when Trump said that COVID would just like disappear like magic after a couple of weeks?" That's how he deals with this type of [ __ ] because he's like immune to it.
Yeah, I'm actually money and the I'm terrified. Same. Like like they're [ __ ] killing us with our water and our food and our medicine and now we got the [ __ ] plague on the loose.
[laughter] I know. In a made in a Russian lab. It's like And Mom is like, "No, that's not a bioweapon." It's like, "What, [ __ ] What do you think they're doing with it? Just having some fun?
Right. Slopping each other with [ __ ] mops dipped in plague?" Right. Miracles one, Chad, I think your sister has had it with these therapists coming on and gaslighting her. That guy had it coming. Well done, Haley. You are your father's daughter.
[laughter] I don't care. It doesn't bother me. I don't really care. You really are. The imprinting took on you as a child. Yeah, well, what do you expect? Like you grow up with that. It definitely molded who I am, but I mean, I'm thankful for it. I'm grateful for it.
me, too, but I think in a kind of opposite way. No, I'm thankful for it. Like I'm not mean to my children or my spouse. I don't yell at people. I'm not like that in a lot of ways, but I think that he instilled something in me that was like, "You don't take [ __ ] from people." And I don't.
Yeah, and I won't. And I have rage and I won't apologize for it. And I feel it every day. Yeah, it propels me forward.
You're a rage embracer. Yes. Rocket Media Marketing 2883, big fan of the podcast. Thank you. I noticed that when Mary Lou is answering a hard question or is pressed about a topic, she will look off to the right a lot. Is it because Bob is in the room to the right desk?
[laughter] He's He's standing not standing. He's laying uh with his face 2 in just outside the frame just staring at her. Ghost Bob.
No, he's he's not there. I think that's just her thinking mind. I don't know why she does it. Um Sneezey Pixie 87, thank you. Mary Lou, why do you think it's okay to send someone to a country they're not from, especially because they are sending immigrants to dangerous countries? How would you feel being sent to a country you know nothing about? We When this all first started and they were sending people to that um that mega prison in Was it Columbia? Where It wasn't Columbia.
I forget where it even was now, but they were sending Huh? Yeah, I know what you're I know what you're saying. We talked about it on the show and I was like, "Even if somebody is undocumented and they come to the United States and they have to be deported, like why are they sending them to this mass incarceration super prison in a country they're not from?"
Mhm. And she had no answer for that. El Salvador. They're saying in the comments it was in El Salvador. There you go. Um Kelbell 17. Does Mary Lou get that the more educated she is on a topic, it becomes an X. The less educated she is, it be- becomes the less she disagrees, the more educated states are blue.
Mhm. I I don't know if she has put that together, but it's a good question to ask her. I wish she was here. Um Hey Zeus A Bear Martinez 2374. Mary Lou, my dad passed uh has [clears throat] passed away. My mom now needs a live-in nurse. I have caught her disrespecting my mom, attempting to steal and hurt her. Even if never succeeded, how many X do I allow before I fire her?
Oh my god. That is terrible. Jesus Christ. Um I hope that situation gets resolved. I'm sorry to hear about your dad, obviously. That's brutal.
And your mom, Jesus. But a good question, yeah. Um Smore Libsibs, Smore Libsibs. Mary Lou, during Friday's Up, Haley pointed out that you contradict your positions when there are guests. Are you authentic when it is just the family or when there are guests? We love the pod. I think it has to do with she doesn't and dad has this element, too. I still think they don't view us as adults.
Correct. They think we are like 10-year-old children and that whatever we're saying can be dismissed because they perceive themselves to have authority over us still.
Yes, correct. whatever their stances on any given topic are are the correct ones and we are just bullshitting. But when they hear a third person who is not part of our family express the same opinions that you and I have on anything,
Mhm. oh, well, now it makes sense. Now there's somehow is validity because it's not our children. Yes. have a very like warped view of of who we are as adult human beings. Um gin and tonic. Haley, when you have an expert on the show because they're an expert, you should respect the expertise, let the expert expert, and shut the [ __ ] [snorts] up when they politely ask you to do so. Whoa.
Well, just because someone says they're an expert doesn't mean it's true. Also, I don't have to shut the [ __ ] up ever if I don't want to.
Damn, there you go. Yeah, I found his his um appearance, it was interesting. Like I said, I was down to like let him do his thing if there was some strategy there, you know what I mean? Like is this was it basically like an intake for him with mom? Is that how he would uh go about doing an intake with any other person that he might be talking to trying to help them out of a cult?
Mhm. Or was it not that? I and I don't know. I'm like 50/50 on it. Was it just like a guy kind of rambling? I don't know.
It It look was a guy rambling. It was a I mean He kept, you know, I have 50 years of experience and I've written all these books and here's my tables and charts, but I feel like, you know, again he would say like I'm a great listener and you know
Yeah. love thy neighbor and all that [ __ ] but did not listen one bit. Yeah. Would not let us talk. Yeah. I mean, I appreciate his time and everything. Any guest that ever comes on the show, I appreciate anybody doing that for us. Um but I don't know the the outcome of it. I'm curious if I think he's going to send Mom those books and I'm curious if she's going to read any
to read that [ __ ] will have any effect. She's not going to read it. Adrian Hager, Mary Lou, if nobody would ever know your answer, how would you describe how you actually feel about Trump today? That's a great interesting question, but I think it kind of defeats its own question because she will have to tell us how she feels. So, we will all know the answer to the question.
Um but yeah, I think like in private No, I You know what? I think she's honest. I don't think she's hiding how she like really feels about him.
No, I don't that from her. Jack Zoc and Mary Lou, if Trump is being blackmailed and someone else is pulling the strings in your words, shouldn't he resign? We've asked her that exact same question. And she's like, well, somebody more powerful. Somebody who's really No, no, no, no, no. She doesn't get that that means like
Mhm. the American president is compromised and should not be running the country if he can be blackmailed or whatever. She don't get it. D Mooney California 324, I don't see it that way is such a [ __ ] response. It's I am wrong, but not going to admit it. It's a petty response. Um I don't know if it's that. I think it's just like an agree to disagree kind of thing. I don't think it's her admitting she's wrong, but won't admit it. I think it's literally her saying I don't agree with what you're saying. Move on, basically.
Um Ashley Metcalf, Mary Lou needs an ex-MAGA guest to hear why they denounce. We've had that. Richard Lodges was on um, and he talked all about it. I thought he was a pretty good guest, actually, in terms of getting Mom to kind of like be like, oh, some people do get out of this [ __ ] thing. Um, Khan LM9WC Why is Mary Lou so indifferent to Palestinian genocide? Is it because the victims are all Muslims?
Probably. a part of it. I think that it's in a a part of the world she knows nothing about. I think she doesn't look into any of this. It you know, unless Trump says it's a genocide, it ain't a genocide to her.
Well, it's media consumption. It's also media consumption. Like my feed is full of, you know, kids with amputations and like the just seeing it and like I it's important to see it and her feed is is not that at all.
Yeah, I agree. I agree. A lot of it is that. Um, why don't you handle yourself? Does Hassan's expert advice work if the family dynamic is toxic and creates double standards? Innocents suffer while we let our loved ones off. I'm not exactly sure what's being asked here. Does his expert advice work if the family dynamic is toxic and creates double standards?
[snorts] I'm not exactly sure what this means. I'm very sorry. Why don't you handle yourself? SamC1355, Mary Lou, do you know who you'll vote for in midterms? I don't know if she does yet and they're coming up. Jesus, maybe this Wednesday. I think I want to go through some of the some of the people in Oklahoma for her.
She has no idea who's on the ballot. I can promise you that right now. She always goes in there and says Republican. She is full of [ __ ] when she's like, I want to vote for the best person. She got no [ __ ] clue who's on that ballot.
Yeah, I need to download some documents and start reading those probably in the next couple of days and put together a little thing for Wednesday. What I'd like to be able to do is an episode where I basically just say like here's the issue, this candidate says this, this candidate says this, which one do you vote for? I like that one. That's the Democrat. I know that will happen on at least a couple of things.
Right. Um Tess Irish 1201 Mary Lou Talerico was sick with flu. Why? HIPAA. No one can disclose info because of HIPAA laws. It's a lie by Republican influencers. Please stop believing lies.
The commercials here for that [ __ ] are wild. It's like the wild west right now. [laughter] I bet. I saw a Ken Paxton one and I was like, is this fake? Did some like sick like a late night talk show make this? Where it was a it was um like a fake betting site and I forget what it was, but it was something like Ken Paxton's [ __ ] corruption.net or whatever. It was just like all this [ __ ] about want to bet on whether Ken Paxton's going to pardon a pedophile or take a $50,000 bribe. Well, good news, you win either way. Da da da da da. You
know, and it was like all this kind of [ __ ] but it was the the ad was made to look like it was a a gambling app on your phone. [laughter]
They're [ __ ] They're [ __ ] insane. The one like going around that's like uh Talerico is for they them, not you.
[laughter] Well, they used that on He's a vegan. Trump used that one. Yes. Against Kamala. The they them not you. Right. That exact phrase. They already used it. Uh where were we? Chad's commercial summaries. Thank you very much. Mary Lou with AI going how it is. It may be that the government president needs to step in and possibly take control of AI. Would you trust that power with Trump?
Do you think he would wield it with everyone's best interest in mind? First of all, you're using the term AI. That means you're an enemy of the state. It's now super intelligent. Trump said that.
Mhm. He's changing the name. But also, have you seen what's going on with what people are doing with decompiling software using AI? Wooee. So, this is in the past like 3 days. Somebody decompiled the entire Adobe suite of software.
Okay. Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. Right. And just said, "Here it is for free." So, you can just download all of those apps now for free.
Okay. Made by AI. They just looked at the Photoshop one and said, "Let me decompile that code, recompile it, and here it is." They also are doing it with the Microsoft suite now. So, Excel, uh PowerPoint, Word, all that [ __ ] Somebody's doing it with every PlayStation game, every Xbox game. And people are now putting like Mario into Elden Ring. So, you can fight Elden Ring bosses with Mario with Mario's set of moves. It's [ __ ] wild what is happening. But now all these billion-dollar corporations are like, "Oh, [ __ ] They can just steal our software."
So, I don't know what's going to happen as a result of that. Cuz now it's not just like they're stealing from, you know, local artists and musicians and [ __ ] Now it's like big corporations are getting [ __ ]
Okay. I mean, that doesn't really bother me. It doesn't bother me now, but the implications for it are like, "Well, if you can decompile that software, can you also decompile the software that the international banking system uses? Can you also decompile the software that keeps hospitals running? Can you also, you know, it it becomes like
No, yeah. Absolutely no. But in the interim, we're going to get this kind of like golden era. It really reminds me of when Napster first came on the scene. It was just like, "Download all the music you want for free."
Mhm. And record labels were like, "What the [ __ ] This is [ __ ] Sue you into oblivion." That feels like what's happening right now with all this software stuff. So, any software you use, I think within a month or two will be free on the internet.
Huh. Yeah. So, like for example with Adobe, you have to pay, as I do, for all the programs used to make this show and everything. You're paying a monthly subscription forever. Um and now I'm looking at like I downloaded those programs just to use them and I'm like just to see is it as good? It's [ __ ] identical.
Okay, so piracy piracy around the corner. Yep. Um Hoytran, thank you very much. Colored Greenies, it's so important to know the difference between what is morally righteous and emotionally cathartic versus the practical process of educating and changing minds. Please listen to the experts and adjust your methods if you really want Mary Lou to break free.
Listen, I don't Listen, if some just because somebody says they're an expert does not make it true. That doesn't mean that it's true.
I mean, I think he probably is based on his own experience and all that [ __ ] I have no reason to disbelieve him or whatever. I know you you had like a kind of contentious experience with him there or whatever. And I'm on your side on that, by the way. Um I but personally like I'm left wondering was he applying expertise or was it I don't know. It's It's hard for me to like gauge that. Um I do wish we would have gotten to talk a little bit more about like the cultism of Trump and how he identifies MAGA as a cult. That I
think would have been helpful or at least interesting to me. And we never really got around to that because it was um it just wasn't that. So, again, I don't know if that was part of his strategy, his technique. I don't know. Um all right, where were we? Colored Greenies, here we go. Imagine Marcel 6421. As a Gen X April Aries, a few years older than Haley, I feel her Aries aggression. Don't ever stop that fight, Haley.
That's that dog in her. Sarah VS9VR, Mary Lou, did you read the Katie Johnson file? She don't read nothing. Did we do that ever on a Wednesday episode? I don't think we ever did. My apologies. Side of the ham for 20. Friday's episode was wild. Was hoping for more between Mary Lou and the guy. Haley, I felt your pain, but that dude
No. for a reason. No. All right. Rhonda What am I looking at here? Rhonda Bleach CCHTSH You can't even do that one. Thank you very much, whatever your name is. David Bourne. Any relation relation to
Jason Jason Bourne. Dr. [snorts] Hassan wanted to talk solely to Mary Lou. He said, "What you are Haley are doing is not working." Why didn't you let him talk instead?
Then why the [ __ ] were we there? Like No, I agree. I I, you know, I was when we were booking that, I was like, "We will all be there. That's what the thing is, you know."
Right. That was known. Um I don't know. Like if he just wanted to have a a session with my mom or whatever, that could have been arranged offline. But again, I thank him for his time. I think any guest we have for their time. I know that that's it's like a hard thing to walk into a podcast, especially weird one like this, where it's like three family members arguing about politics.
Um D Mooney, California 324. "I don't see it that way" is such a [ __ ] response. Oh, we already saw this one. Petty response. And I believe, yes, all we have now is jewels. Which I still don't understand. Sunlight Social 20 jewels and garlic. Thanks for the garlic. I do like that. Commander Alioto in 7 100 High five, high five. Jesse Fink five jewels go team. Thank you. 5.3 LSX 10 jewels floating heart.
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Hello. Well, yeah, what? Are you Are you [ __ ] joking? I It's been [laughter] a long week, okay? I had a Was he a psychologist?
Who? Hassan Hasson Was he a psychologist? Dr. Steve Hasson Uh I swear he was. Steve Hasson PhD is a mental health professional and forensics expert who's been helping people leave deconstructive cults since 1976 after he was deprogrammed from the Moon cult by his family. He directs the Freedom of Mind Resource Center Inc. a consulting and media production company based in Massachusetts. He is the author of the books combating cult mind control and freedom of mind. Dr. Hasson's expertise has been featured in major media outlets such as CNN developed the bite model the words world's first scientifically validated construct for evaluating authoritarian control and host the podcast the
influence continuum. Um It doesn't list his what he is other than a PhD. in psychology I'm guessing, yeah. Hm. Well But I this book was interesting. I did read it. The cult of Trump. The the kind of most interesting parts to me, almost the first half of it I would say, is like a a pretty good history of Donald Trump that goes back to like his parents and [ __ ] and his grandparents and where they came from and kind of just the whole the whole thing that Trump grew up in that made him who he is. I thought that was pretty interesting.
And he does a really good job of breaking down like all kinds of different tactics used in cults and applying it to like how MAGA is using it. That's really what I thought our conversation was going to be about.
Mhm. That he was going to be like, "Trump did this. That's just like this cult that you know all cults use this type of tactic or Trump does this. That's a cult tactic." Cuz I think that would have been helpful for mom to have, you know, a cult expert telling her like, "This thing that Trump is doing, when you hear him say this, that's a cult tactic meant to make you feel this way. Do you feel that way?" Like that I think would have actually potentially been helpful. But I don't again, I was like willing to let him do his his thing, whatever that
thing was going to be. I guess. I don't know. I was unmoved. Clear well, you were moved in a the opposite direction. You were moved away.
Yeah, I don't know. I I I there was something just from the get from the [ __ ] jump. Got a weird feeling, didn't really care for him, and then he really showed me why. And I feel like I have [laughter] I have like gut feelings about people.
Sure. Yeah. an immediate [ __ ] ick for me. Okay. So. That's fair enough. Reactions are reactions. Um thank you everybody for joining us tonight. We'll be back on Wednesday like I said, probably it's going to be me and my mom going through some Oklahoma um candidates and and things on their ballot for these upcoming midterms. Good luck to us all. I want to say in some places early voting I think starts this week.
October 19th. For me. I think it's the 17th for me, but I think there's some places where the 16th, which is what, Friday or something like that, right? So, good luck out there if you're voting early. We hope that you get your votes in. If not, if you're going to wait for the day, I think I'm going to wait for the day. I like going out the day, getting to the place, seeing the people.
That's one of my only times I interact with human beings. So, [laughter] usually it's me and Scotty. Thank you everybody for joining us. We will see you on Wednesday.