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Hi. Hello. Hello. Sorry, I'm just arranging my screen here. Okay, there we go. Screen arranged. Screen arranged. There's the comments. All right. Hello. [snorts] Hi everyone. Late, am I? 6:00 p.m. PDT. I think that's not late. Could be wrong. What is the treat? Bunkerton's give me five jewels treat. Hi, let's go, Unc. I'm trying my best here. I really am. I really truly am. Um thanks everybody for joining. Oh, Alexa KP7NF, show Mary Lou I'd run Repub cuz they're dumb DT clip. We did that on an old episode. I remember talking to her about that that he was basically calling Republicans dumb and
that's why he'd run Republican. She was like, he's joking, if I remember correctly. That [ __ ] doesn't phase her. If he says something that she doesn't like or that is insulting to Republicans or her or whatever, she just says it's a joke or locker room talk or whatever. She dismisses it pretty easily. Um I don't know that that type of thing has much of an effect on her. I mean, you saw some of it today.
She really is like backsliding a little bit in the the area of like being able to justify any of this crazy [ __ ] that he's doing. Like the I thought for sure today because she's so like pro-military that um the what's going on in the USS Abraham Lincoln would have some effect on her, but she was like, nope, he's still a great commander-in-chief and the important thing is that boat's getting out of there now.
Like, okay. Um Jack Zilkin How you from Ireland? Doing okay. I truly believe Mary Lou is secretly a single-issue voter. Abortion is her MAGA shibboleth. Um I don't like that's right. I don't like she is a single-issue voter. I think she is a party-line voter. And I don't actually think she cares all that much about abortion. If she was a single-issue voter, it would be the border.
Which obviously she keeps saying like that's the thing that Trump does well or whatever blah blah blah. Anytime we're like, you've got a bunch of X's, a bunch of things that you're saying you don't like about Trump. She always goes back to um the border, that he's closed the border, and so that makes him a good president. Where was I? I don't really think she cares all that much about abortion. I Or any of the religious stuff. I'm with my sister that my parents are not that religious. I don't this like kind of
[snorts] thing that they this idea that they've tried to promote that they're like hyper-Christian and that's all that matters to them. It It does not stick for me. Greg Kinnear speaks in third person. For the love of all, make her repeat after you.
[snorts] How do you mean? Like repeat back the things that I'm saying to her? Gin and Tonic, Chad, your voice intro to the necessary conversation is so cringe, lol. Yeah, I know.
[laughter] I love it. I was trying to make it like crazy, you know? It's time to have the necessary conversation. [laughter] That [ __ ] to me is funny as hell. Uh I I don't know. Cringe to me is kind of like it's the highest form of art that exists on social media because it's like hard to do. It's hard to pull off well because you have to make it feel like it's not intentional, you know what I mean? Otherwise, it's not cringe.
Then it's just like weird or bad or whatever. Oh my god, Abby can't cook. I've been yelling RUDY DEAD RUDY DEAD AT my family with no context. For those who don't know, this is a colchicine family story. Rudy dead. Before Max and Kitty, who were the dogs that used to be in our podcast until BOTH OF THEM DEAD. Rudy was this little fat Chihuahua that my parents had prior to Max and Kitty.
At one point, the story that I have told, which was then repeated on 10-minute podcast, an old podcast I used to do with two buddies of mine, and that story was repeated by uh Tommy Blacha, I believe, on that podcast, and Will Sasso, a story I told to them in confidence, and then it was repeated on that podcast. And it became kind of like a a catchphrase among our little group of friends.
But the story goes, I had just come from a meeting, um I think I sold a TV show in that meeting, and I was driving back to my agent's office from this meeting, and I saw my dad calling me, which is extremely rare. He never picks up the phone, he never calls. And so I answer it, and he just goes, RUDY DEAD! AND HE WAS CRYING BECAUSE THEIR DOG HAD DIED. AND so Rudy died in that accent has become a a thing.
Bamarola 24, would love a Wednesday episode [clears throat] with Bob to hear about his NDE. I would too, but I think like I've asked him about it multiple times, and he always just says, I didn't see [ __ ] So, whether or not something did happen when he was on the other side, I don't think he would ever admit it even if it did, unfortunately. Captain Goku 2280, hey Chad, the topic you guys had about Caroline Leavitt's replacement.
If it is not Scott Jennings, do you think that Trump's 36-year-old assistant Natalie Harp could be the next press secretary? Yes, I do. I don't think it'll be Scott Jennings. Um I don't think it'll be Scott Jennings. That job like I'm not saying Caroline Leavitt was good at it or or didn't lie or whatever. I just think that job is like extremely hard. Cuz you're you have to stand up in front of the [ __ ] White House press corps every day and just get machine-gunned, you know? I don't think Scott Jennings wants to do that. I think Scott Jennings is much happier just like
showing up on CNN and being the Republican in their little panels and [ __ ] like that. I don't think he would do it. Um trails nail or trail snail 918 10 jewels happy poop, right? D O C dismay D O C dismay or D O C D is May 7657. Mary Lou said today that your dad wants Scott Jennings for press secretary. Do they know Hassan is suing him for defamation of falsely claiming that Hassan wanted to lynch black people through cutting up clips of him. Scott Jennings did that to him? Jesus Christ.
I don't know Scott Jennings other than when he's on CNN. I don't know Let me actually Google him right now. I don't know like how he came to prominence or what. He must have a podcast or something, right? Let's see. Scott Jennings history.
[clears throat] Scott Jennings is an American conservative political strategist, writer, media personality widely known as a CNN political commentator and a long-time advisor to Oh, he's an advisor to Mitch McConnell. That's why he's calling him. Started his career as a radio reporter news anchor for WHAS and the Kentucky News Network, managed George Bush George W. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign in Kentucky.
[snorts] He was in the White House as a special assistant to the president, deputy director of political affairs under Karl Rove. Whoa. So, he's been in some dark [ __ ] Senator Mitch McConnell, he worked for Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush. Wrote regular columns for the LA Times, USA Today, and Louisville Courier-Journal. All right. So, he's been around a minute. I don't know. Like, I just don't I don't think he would do it. I don't see the benefit for him. He's like getting paid well, he doesn't have to do much.
Now, you know, he just like shows up on CNN and gets in argument here and there. I don't think he'd do it. K. Van Winkle 777, thank you very much. Wednesday, Mary Lou claimed Trump wouldn't endanger citizens, yet he continues to target the Olympian over the reflecting pool on the M A Oh, Massachusetts abortion bill. Mary Lou, did you listen to the mother's testimony during that event at all? I'm sure she didn't.
Um and it doesn't matter to her. In her mind, abortion bad, outlaw it everywhere at all times. States' rights don't matter. All that [ __ ] you know. It's kind of what we talked about today.
[snorts] Um I always knew that states' rights argument when we were first having it when abortion got overturned by the Supreme Court or Roe v. Wade got overturned by the Supreme Court, I remember them both saying like, "Well, now it's They didn't overturn it. It's states' rights. Each state gets to decide." And I knew that that was a [ __ ] lie from them because really what they want is no abortion anywhere. And now that there is a state that's saying, "Let's do it." they don't like that, you know. Um that's where it's at for them.
Greg Kinnear speaks in third person. Do you feel with Bob getting better, you guys missed your window to fix Mary Lou? No. I don't. Because she still, even today, was like, I said abolish ice. She said she still wants health care for everybody. She still is adhering to the the changes that have been made in terms of like some of the bigger platform issues where she is now against the Republican Party, against Trump. She's adhering to those things. I feel like the, you know, maybe we've lost the momentum, but like the progress seems to be iced. It seems to be like she's still there with that.
It's just that now any forward momentum we've had, she's she's starting to retreat a little bit. And it might have something to do with the fact that, you know, as she was saying today, maybe my dad's going to come on next week. I'm very curious to see what that's going to be like. Um it'll be interesting for sure. I will definitely talk to him about the Indie and about his health generally.
Um but yeah, I'm curious to see where his head is at with some of this stuff. I can only imagine he's still like 100% on Trump's side, regardless of what the issue is, but we will see. TJ Gamer 9713, as an atheist, I still think you sound kind of crazy when talking about what comes after death. Sorry. No no need to apologize. You you know, your belief is your belief. Mine is mine.
Um I would say I used to be a hardcore atheist. I feel like at this point that's just as dogmatic as being hardcore Christian. There's no possible way any of us can know what exists after life. And I would say there is some at least um historical evidence to the fact that human consciousness persists after death or at least exists independent from a physical body. I think we have had that evidence for a long time in humanity and science just discounts it because it's not possible to be measured by current scientific means. And uh generally speaking, the scientific community, if it can't measure
something, if it can't give it a name or a theory or whatever, it dismisses it as non-existing. But that's simply not true. I would ask you, TJ Gamer 9713, to try and tell me what dreams are. I think we can all agree we have them, and they can't be um measured, really. I [clears throat] would even ask you to scientifically measure the taste of a strawberry to you, that very subjective conscious experience. Can't be measured, and yet we all have it all the time. The only thing that truly exists in the human experience is our subjective interaction with whatever this is, and that cannot be measured. So, um
you know, I got more, I guess, into a rant on like science or materialism versus the woo-woo world, but I think atheism kind of like locks into that. And I'm a huge fan of all those, the whatever the Four Horsemen, you know, Hitchens and Dawkins and blah blah blah. Um I find them very interesting. I loved Christopher Hitchens when he was around, but I just think that they're I've had personal experiences in my life in the past, whatever, 10 years, that 7 years-ish, something like that, that have kind of like led me down a path to be much more open-minded about it. I
totally understand if you're not. I used to be exactly where you are, and I get it. Um there is some kind of a comfort in dismissing all of these things that can't be explained, or at least can't be measured through scientific means. I totally understand that. Um but I would ask you to be slightly open-minded, have a conversation with somebody who is um maybe experienced, not necessarily an NDE, but any kind of weird thing, having sleep paralysis, seeing entities, you know, in the room with you, having premonitory dreams, or uh even synchronicities. I'm sure you've experienced synchronicities in your life where everybody experiences these things from
time to time, where you will see something in the world that seems to be almost communicating a message specifically to you only for you that you're the only possible person that it could that could understand it. For example, I'll give you one of mine, a recent one. Um I had just completed writing this movie called Moon Cops that I've been working on for a minute and I was like, "What movie should I write next?" And I had three basically like premises that I was into. One of which um was about It was a horror movie and it was about a couple who comes home to
find their cat sitting outside their front door and the woman of the couple is like, "Oh, I told you don't let our cat out. He's an indoor cat. How the [ __ ] could you do this?" And the guy is like, "I didn't I didn't let him out. I don't know what's going on." They pick up the cat, they open the door and there's another identical copy of the cat sitting inside and that kind of kicks off the the movie.
It's called Two Scobbies because my cat's name is Scobby. So, that's one of the the ideas in the hopper. I just kind of ask in a meditation, "What should I write next?" I then go out with a buddy to this weed bar here in West Hollywood um called The Woods. It's owned by Woody Harrelson. We're sitting there and this little cat walks out from the bushes with a red um not necklace, what do they call it?
Collar on with a little bell on it and this woman who works there comes out with a laser pointer and she's putting it on the ground and the cat's playing with it and we're like watching this cat. Cute cat. Uh we're talking about, "I guess that cat just lives in the the [ __ ] weed bar. What a a good life for a cat." Then an identical cat walks out of the [ __ ] bushes wearing the exact same red collar with a bell on it and there's two of them and she's playing with them both and I'm I'm sure they're siblings, but like they looked pretty much
identical and I was like, "This is less than 24 hours after I asked, 'What movie should I write next?' and I have a movie about two identical cats." That to me felt like a synchronicity. It was almost as though the universe was delivering me this answer I had asked for. I'm sure you have had experiences like that as well. How do you explain it? Do you explain that as simple coincidence, meaningless?
I I used to I used to write it off like that and now I don't. That's where I'm at with it. Thank you for your question. Janaydoll No, Janaydoll, sorry. I believe that this world is an illusion, too. Me, too. And time does not exist. Same. If we all eventually merge back into one consciousness, what do you think the point of this life is? Just play just play of consciousness.
I don't know. And I mean, that's the We've been asking ourselves that question since the dawn of uh human cognitive evolution, basically, I think. Why are we here? What is the point of this? Are we alone? I would lump into this. What is the universe? What is reality? These are all questions that I just don't think we are capable of answering. We can think about them in abstract ways, obviously, as we're doing right here, but I don't think that there it's possible to answer. Like I really do think we're in a like simulation, for lack of a better term. I don't know that it's like we're
in a computer game being played by an alien teenager. I don't know if that's accurate, but I I can tell you certainly what we are perceiving is not what is real, simply because we only have our faculties, our five senses, and the augmentation of those five senses through some technological means, and you know, microscopes, telescopes, whatever. But, um that's how we perceive reality. There are even on this very planet animals who have other senses or heightened versions of these senses that perceive this same reality in a drastically different way.
And those are just creatures here on our planet. What we definitely know is our senses and our perception of the physical world have evolved for our survival. So, what we see, here, taste, touch, and smell is not what's actually there. It's how we perceive it in order to survive better. And that perception has evolved along with our species, um honed exactly to the point that we are at now, where it has allowed us to be the most dominant species on the planet.
So, we are not perceiving what is real. Um what is real? Nobody knows. And I don't think we ever will. So, you know, the the question, what do I think the point of this life is? Who the [ __ ] knows? I I I literally don't know. I just don't think anybody else will, either. I I can't imagine how you could even come to the the conclusion. I have some like impulses, some ideas, or whatever, but they're like as abstract as anybody else's. They're they're no better than like God in heaven, blah blah blah, you know.
I don't know. Teresa113, "Hi Chad, it really seems like Mary Lou's regression is proportional to Bob's recovery." I agree. "Is she still using ground news?" Supposedly. But I don't know. I'm not there on a day-to-day basis, but I agree with you. As he gains power, she he sucks her back in. He's like a black hole. Uh tense mushrooms4774, "Ever think of having comedian Tim Dillon on? Ex-Trump guy now spends all his time calling out the administration on their lies. Worth it for Mary Lou."
No, but I I haven't thought about that, but I have sent some DMs to some other people. We'll see if anything materializes. Just another Amy in the crowd, uncle alert, thank you. Pop culture victim7789, "Where is 20-minute Mitch?" I don't know. None of us know. That's the the thing. Like
[clears throat] he I guess what was it was last week, the governor of Kentucky was like, "Dude, put out a video or [ __ ] resign." None of that happened. Nobody knows. Under under, under There's a psychological difference between not good and doing his best and saying something is bad. Please continue pushing Mary Lou to say her actual opinion of good or bad. Hearts and high fives to all. Thank you very much. I will try to do that more.
Uh I'm just trying to give her, you know, I'm trying to cushion it a little bit. Trying not to be like, "Come on, [ __ ] say it." That's more of my sister's job. [laughter]
[gasps] LKMac12, idea for Mary Lou, have her say, "I disagree with Donald Trump's policy about blank." After an axe, keep track of I disagree with and pull up a doc with the list each time she disagrees. Different perspective than not my president. Yeah, you're right. That's not a bad idea. I might implement that. Mr. Underhill Chicago Glad you guys called out her Islamophobia. Yeah, we try to do it on a weekly basis at this point. It's It's pretty strong.
Um you know, I I think like racism for her and my dad is a big part of why they're MAGA. It's a big part of like what makes them feel right or justified in their discriminatory views is like the racist element of MAGA. So, we do our best. Um Nicole Pinto Crayatso? Hope I'm saying that right. I can't stop looking at your collector booster boxes behind your head. What boxes you got back there?
[laughter] This is my Magic the Gathering collector box collection. I don't know how many you can see. It's not just behind my head. It's all of these as well. Just stacks of cards. I got a bunch. I got a bunch. I got a bunch. I got a bunch. Um I don't want to go through them all, but I got a bunch. I have pretty much at least one of everything except some of the huge money ones like I don't have any Lord of the Rings ones.
Um There's some others that were like in the thousands when I started like buying collector's boxes, but basically anything that was around three to $400 like three years ago or so, I just started getting one here and there, one here and there. And uh I have a bunch. Gin and Tonic, Chad, Mary Lou only digs deep enough to confirm my bias. The Hornet was out almost 500 days with multiple port calls. The Lincoln has been out for 250 days continuously with no port calls. That's what I told I literally told her that in the in the show today. I was like that's a
different thing. They didn't get to [ __ ] dock anywhere and resupply and blah blah blah. I I explained that literally to her and it just [ __ ] washed over her. She just did not give a [ __ ] Cuz she, as all MAGA do, they look for one piece of information on the internet that confirms their bias or or whatever belief they need to hold to make Trump not as bad as he actually is, they cling to it and then it doesn't matter whatever the facts are that are contrary to it, [ __ ] irrelevant. Um and she did that one today on me. Brad
Puetz, hey Chad, do you think you could try and get Ashley St. Clair on the pod to talk to Mary Lou about her time in MAGA? My sister and I have been talking about that a little bit. We might um She's not one of the people that I've DM'd, but like I said, I've DM'd some people. We'll see if anything comes through. I am trying to get some other people that I think would be very interesting on the show.
Abby Normal, 10 joules floating heart. Thank you. [laughter] Caller Greenies, your mom literally admitted today that she willfully refuses to believe reality. She doesn't want to change, so she won't. Well, I mean reality, now that we're talking about metaphysical [ __ ] there ain't no such thing. But, um she doesn't want to change, so she won't. Who wants to [ __ ] change? Nobody wants to change.
But, and I don't think necessarily that's actually true with her. Um she is changing. Like, to say she won't, she is changing. This This is something that I see in the comments. It's like, "It's This [ __ ] conversation's pointless." Then she says, "Abolish ICE." Oh my god, they're making progress. She still said that today. She said abolish ICE today. She has changed. So, the idea that she doesn't want to change, so she won't, is already invalidated. She has changed.
She has come closer to leaving the cult. She has come closer to the side of reason. It has already happened. So, there there's this kind of like this weird thing that happens, I think, for some people when they watch my mom, that's like, "Well, [ __ ] it. She won't denounce Trump. She'll never change." It's like, she already wants universal health care. She said abolish ICE today.
Still saying it. That's massive. When we first started this podcast, if you would have told me at some point she's going to be saying she wants to abolish a government immigration agency and wants health care for everyone, that I would have lost my mind. No [ __ ] way in hell would that have ever happened. And yet, it has happened. She has changed. David Francis 2875.
Donald John Trump said, "If reelected, there would be retribution. Remember, high prices, no health care, SS troops, weakened military, so we can be attacked while he goes to his bomb shelter island bankrupt USA." Um Yeah, I do Is there a question here? I'm so sorry, David Francis. High prices, no health care, SS troops, weakened military, so we can be attacked while he goes to his bomb shelter island there. I I'm sorry, I don't see a question here.
I I with everything you're saying. Um and now I also forgot I have to turn off these super chats. You have about 15 seconds to get in a super chat if you want. Then I'm going to turn them all off and I'm going to answer them all. But I'm going to turn them off. Uh, okay. I'm turning them off in 5 4 3 2 I understand the implications of this action. Turning off.
Okay. Um Where was I? Scrawn Diggy. I don't know if it's been asked before, but how do you feel about Sony discontinuing physical video games going forward after 2028? Now we're getting into some [ __ ] ain't we?
[snorts] The I feel very strange about all of it. On one hand, I love technology. I love that it progresses. I love that it makes our lives easier. Obviously, there's some very nefarious [ __ ] using technology right now in a wide variety of capacities to do very bad [ __ ] And uh, inching us closer to a dystopia that I don't really want to live in.
Is Sony one of those companies by discontinuing physical video games or physical media at all? I don't know. The thing that sucks about it is obviously if there are no physical video games, they control whatever that video game is. You might have downloaded the client to your hard drive or whatever. But um, they could render that null and void, too. I don't think it's a good move. I get why they're doing it. It's to give them more control, less overhead, blah blah blah. But I think an interesting unintended consequence of it, and you can already kind of see it happening, is the emergence of this physical media
collector space online where even like VHS tapes and [ __ ] are like selling for decent amounts of money. If you have any of this [ __ ] if you have old VHS tapes, DVDs, old video games of any kind, look it up on eBay what you got. You may have a little bit of money if if want to uh, sell those things because it's starting to like really take off as more and more of these companies are saying, "We're not making physical shit." And it's not just Sony in video games. The company that makes Magic the Gathering, Hasbro, has now said they're going to stop
publishing Dungeons and Dragons books, and it's all going to be online, and you're going to have to pay a subscription service and all that [ __ ] People are outraged, but like that's just the way it's going, so if you have physical copies of stuff, check it out. I I bet you'll be surprised. You may have something that's worth a little bit of money. Two ICs, one palm, YYC, please share the stats and why later abortions happen. 1% occur at 21-plus weeks, less than 1%, sorry, approximately 1% occur at 21-plus weeks, often due to fetal diagnoses, maternal health risks, or delayed care.
TFMR I'm not sure what that means is devastating. Mary Lou's comments broke my heart. TFMR, hang on 1 minute. Let me look at that. Let me see what that means. Termination for medical reasons. Um yeah, I mean, my sister tried to lay that out for her today. And again, it was just a thing that goes beyond her, because it is it doesn't fit into her narrative. That's like these crazy women are just going out and getting pregnant and like, "Well, I'm due tomorrow. Guess I better have that abortion."
Which obviously is not the case. Um of course, anybody who carries a baby that late in the term, and then they have to get an abortion for medical reasons, of course it's devastating. And I don't think my mom understands that. She you know again and again, only can really understand things if she has been personally affected by it or or put in that situation herself. She never was put in the situation. So, I don't think she will ever fully understand it.
Um and has a limited capacity for empathy, I think, as does my dad, obviously. Alexa KP7 and F, what does closed border even mean to her? I think it means literally no one gets to come into the United States. And I was I looked up some research on this cuz I was curious like, is she right? Did has Trump closed the border? And it's like yes, kind of. Or at least he has gotten the the number of arrests and detentions made at the border from people crossing the border illegally has dramatically decreased during Trump. But it was already on a pretty big down slope in
the last like 8 months of Biden. So, it's like I'm sure his policies are making it harder to come across, but um Biden had already like started to correct the problem that happened during his administration. So, I don't know. I don't know who you can attribute that to. I also don't even think it's a good thing. I mean, I've I've been pretty vocal on the show about like I don't think we should even have borders or countries for that matter.
I think everybody should be able to go wherever the [ __ ] they want. But um I think to her it means nobody comes in. Susan Clements, you and Haley did a good job today helping your mom stick to the topic when you got her to say she didn't want to believe he's done those things. Yeah, I I think like
[clears throat] there there's some stuff that's about to come out with regard to these there's like four I think it's four handwritten notes that FBI agents took from um women that were alleging Donald Trump sexually assaulted them when they were children on Epstein Island. I think those documents we knew those documents existed from the first dump. Uh but now I think those documents are actually going to come out. When that happens, I like can she just dismiss those [ __ ] things? Definitely if when those things come out, we are going to be reading them on the show.
I don't know like what her reaction will be to that or if she will you know, find some way to pivot or well, that's not real. I don't know. I literally don't know. When she was talking today about the sexual assault allegations against that Republican congressman or the domestic violence ones, you know, she's like, well, I don't know if we can believe them. That thing of like she never believes the accusers when it comes to domestic violence, sexual assault, women basically.
I don't know how to get around that. Um it's very frustrating. But I don't know, maybe the this next Epstein file dump will will help us out. Behavior Bender Your mom struggles with distinguishing opinion from fact. She also has no reliable method to verify accuracy before she believes something. Correct. Agreed. I don't like she doesn't If chat GPT tells her something then like it's on.
You know, and it's I don't know how many times I've used chat GPT or Claude to like look up some news thing, you know, that's like, hey, can you summarize, you know, what happened in the election or whatever? And I'm reading it and I'm just like there's like four things wrong in this. And then you type in, you know, what about this? What about this? What about this? And it's like, oh, right, good catch. So it's like you you can't rely on that [ __ ] for news, you know, and she does. As she said multiple times on this, my chat GPT did it.
So I don't know. I don't know how to get her to kick that. Sam Stationary 33 440 joules Uncle Earth. Thank you. Uh Ike to play or like to play. Mary Lou gave up the game today. She said, I don't want to believe it. She knows. She knows he's a piece of [ __ ] Yes, but that's again that the idea that like no progress is being made. That in and of itself is progress.
Her admitting out loud, I don't want to believe it. I think has to start to sink in a little bit for her, at some point, hopefully. I mean, hopefully. Sam Sational 33, Mary Lou needs to go back to avoiding Newsmax. Way too many steps backward lately. I think Bob is in her ear a lot, too. You guys look great today. Thank you very much. I think my dad's rise to power is affecting her. I really do. And it's it's like wild to say, but um I'm glad that he's getting better, obviously. But when he was like down and out for a minute there, for months,
really, um I do think she was she was like more focused on taking care of him, which took her away from the Newsmax cycle. But I think also like she she was just like more independently thinking. I don't know what is actually going on there. Like if my dad's screaming at her or has Newsmax blaring or what. I don't I literally don't know. But uh maybe next week if my dad comes on, we can find out.
Desiree By Note 5001. Started to have hope for Mary Lou. It's going away slowly. Have you thought to do live combos, live fact checks? Something's got to give. Props for pushing. Um yeah, I'm always thinking about ways to tweak this show if I can. But I would I would say the same thing to you, Desiree By Note, that I said earlier. Don't lose hope. She still said abolish ICE today. She still said she wants universal health care. Those are massive things. And it doesn't it seems like that progress is locked. She's not going backwards. When we were talking about the um uh the what are the [ __ ] thing? Shock
gloves for ICE. She was like not into that. Like you saw that, right? This is the same woman who said Renee good deserved to get shot in the face. She's now like not in favor of ICE getting their shock gloves and wants to abolish ICE. That progress is progress. So don't lose hope. We have made massive gains here. And the fact that she's backsliding a little bit to me is is like expected. I don't think you can pull somebody out of a cult in like one smooth progression, one smooth shot. It's going to be these these fits and starts, stutter steps, you know,
it's going to be that. And I'm in it for the long haul. I I hope that, you know, whoever's watching this and getting something out of it is, too. But I also understand if it's too frustrating or whatever, you got to do what you got to do in this life. But I am not losing hope. Britney Corliss 7707, 46% of unhoused people are foster kids that have aged out of the system. We need abort or we'll have more homeless, Mary Lou.
A good point. Um Cover Jason. Can we talk about Mary Lou saying in reference to the Republican with essay allegations? If people have brains, they won't vote for him. Like the same didn't apply to voting for Trump. I tried to bring that up. I When I was like she said, "Yeah, this is bad. Nobody should vote for him." I was like, "Well, what about Trump? He's got 30 such allegations against him roughly.
And And one of those allegations became a [ __ ] conviction. Well, in civil court." That in civil court thing drives me absolutely [ __ ] insane. And then she always is like, "Cuz in civil court, you don't have Not everybody has to agree you're guilty." I'm like, "Yeah, it's still a [ __ ] court. You still have a jury that has to unanimously agree you are guilty in order to be guilty." She doesn't understand that. No matter how many times I say it. Maybe that's what Wednesday could be about.
What is civil court? That might be an interesting Wednesday episode. Cruise 344, Dr. Shiva for US Senate in Massachusetts, donate to him for he can get on the debate stage on PBS. All right? Um there you have that. Hentai Shinji 666. I had an NDE when That's near death experience when I was 15 and noticed it freaked people out when I told them I saw such experience nothing and eventually started telling people I saw a light to avoid upsetting people #woopigsooie.
I look, some people have NDEs and have no experience, other people have very insane experiences, you know? Whatever your experience was is what it was. But yes, woopigsooie. Spiral Uprising, you'll need Valhalla back or someone she'll listen to. Um I'm trying to work that out as I said. I've got some DMs in place that maybe will deliver someone she'll listen to. Clover Baby Boy 19, have you guys considered having an episode that is not about politics at this point? Maybe just about life. I think it would do Mary Lou some good. We've done a couple of those um non-political episodes. We haven't done one in a minute though. Maybe it
would be a decent one. God, but if my dad's on like I feel like we have to I just have so many questions for him. I haven't talked to him about politics since the last time he was on the show. The only things I've talked to him about are like, you know, how was your NDE? How are you feeling? Still [ __ ] your pants? That kind of stuff, you know, medical things. So um you're right though, maybe that would be good. D Mooney California 324, I was blown away that Mary Lou would not admit that the terrible conditions for the Navy guys was Trump's fault. I was too.
It was mind-blowing that she's like, he's a good commander in chief. People are literally trying to kill themselves on board that boat because [ __ ] is so bad. That's insane. And then when he's asked about it, he says they're not out there long enough, shit's not bad enough for them. That's unbelievable to me, especially because one of her big things is always like support the troops, support the troops.
I don't know. I I that one shocked me. I thought she would that was going to be a big X again, and it wasn't. Britney Corrales 777, Trump left Levitt for dead on Air Force One, correct? Allowed it to take off after a threat as a decoy while he was safe on another plane. Thoughts, Mary Lou? We talked about that on Wednesday, I believe, of last week. The episode was called I think it was called Trump's cowardly escape, or at least that's what I put in the thumbnail. So, my mom and I talked about that entire thing for almost that entire episode if you want to go check
it out, but yeah, she didn't think it was like a big deal. She had a million different um rationalizations and excuses for why he had to do it. And like, yep, [ __ ] 'em. If they blow up in the plane, [ __ ] 'em. Sam Sational 33, Mary Lou is mad about the wash stations in airports that everyone can use or avoid, but in the same state all kids are force-fed the Bible in public school.
Yeah, that was a weird thing she was talking about. Um she was pissed that they were putting a place that Muslims can wash like their hands and feet and stuff before praying. I'm just like, who gives a [ __ ] Who cares? I don't know why she gets all in a a tizzy about that. It's like linked, I think, to the racism, obviously. Deeter's Gone Wild. Deeter Diddy of the Week, if you had to hang out with Trump one-on-one doing some sort of an activity, what would it be and why?
Um God. The prospects of doing anything with him just seem terrible, but I guess I would probably What would I do with Trump? And this isn't something where I could, you know, have an accident where he falls off a boat or something. Um What would I do with Trump? Probably smoke weed or do mushrooms or something and try to get him to see reason. I mean, I'd be unsuccessful in that, I guess, but I'd give it a shot. And why? Because maybe I could Maybe I wouldn't be unsuccessful. Maybe I would succeed.
Lalav 26, Mary Lou shouldn't know Biden actually helped environment and animal protections to show it's not all presidents like she says. Also, the border numbers. Um what about the border numbers? I As I said, I did some research into this. It It was There were a lot of people getting arrested at the border. Way more under Biden than this term of Trump, for sure. So, it's hard to like make that argument on in terms of like countering my mom's idea of it. But I At least from what I read, it did seem like the numbers were starting to like go down pretty drastically in Biden's last year. And
Trump has inherited a little bit of that, as well as implemented these like stronger policies and stuff. Big Pig penis, did you like the Final Fantasy 7 Magic the Gathering set? I didn't know they made a Final Fantasy 7 Magic the Gathering set. They made a Final Fantasy set. Did I like it? Oh, yeah. I have a couple of those collector's boxes sitting back here.
It's one of the best sets ever made, I think. I don't even know if that's disputable. It's got the number one commander right now, Y'shtola. She's the number one commander currently being played from that set. Latoya Williams 7220, your mom is hopeless. She won't turn down her king. I disagree. For all the reasons I've stated in this very live, we've made a lot of progress with her. We're going to continue to do that.
TJ Gamer 9713, I think dreams are literally just constructions of our subconscious. What's your subconscious, TJ Gamer? What's that? The like that answer doesn't answer anything.
[laughter] That's like saying, I think God is just a god. I think afterlife is just an afterlife. It's like, what what the [ __ ] our subconscious, dude?
[snorts] Um Mr. Underhill, Chicago, have you heard podcast Everything is Alive? I have not. Thank you for your question. Phil Meyer 2367, 27 years ago, wife would have died if she didn't get a D&C for miscarriage. If that happens now, dot dot dot. Depending on what state you're in, right? Yeah, I mean, it's it's brutal. Like part of what I'm trying to get my mom to see is like my my strategies are kind of like multi-pronged. One is here's like a factual thing happening that Trump put into motion or is at fault for that you disagree with. I put that out there. That's like um the war
in Iran, healthcare, you know, whatever. Another piece of it is he's a criminal. Here's the evidence of that. That's the embezzling money, the money laundering, the 34 felonies, civil court conviction, E. Jean Carroll. Another thing that I try to go for is he is a cruel person. He is just a cruel person who likes watching other people suffer. And I think that the how he's treating abortion and all of this and my mom's attitude about it, too.
It's it's in there. That this has nothing to do like Trump obviously isn't religious, has nothing to do with religious conviction. Even people who are religious about it, though, I think at the very least have to be able to put up blinders to other human suffering in service of their religious ideology. Um I get that there's debate about like when human life starts and is this murder and all that kind of stuff? Fine, I get it. I personally don't believe that, but some people do.
But, um I think for the you know, in terms of like what has happened to Roe v. Wade with his Supreme Court, and obviously that was one of the big things that he promised the evangelical movement in America was that he was going to overturn Roe v. Wade. He did do that. He kept his promise, so he keeps their votes, ostensibly. But, that to me is part of the cruelty message, that he does not care about any person's suffering or misery, and he will make [ __ ] worse for them if it means he stays in power. And that to me is what that is.
Joel She. Mary Lou just straight up not caring about the troops suffering on a boat was actually insane. Agreed. Desisting. What's that mean? Desisting the suffering of our troops is shameful. Maybe dismissing. I agree. Like I was saying earlier in in this live, I that shocked me that she was not on the side of the troops. I I just never thought that would be the case.
There have been these little moments throughout really both of Trump's administrations and and even through his his um 2020 campaign where he would like [ __ ] on Gold Star families or [ __ ] on John McCain, a literal [ __ ] prisoner of war war hero. That stuff never landed with her in terms of like her uh acknowledging that Trump is like against the military.
I thought for sure this one would. When you have a guy literally trying to jump to his death off the side of a [ __ ] boat because things are so bad. She dismissed that that was even maybe like a thing that really happened. She was like, "Did that really happen?" It's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] it's on every news channel. No matter where you go." I except maybe Newsmax is probably not showing it.
Um I did flip around through Newsmax. They were not talking about it over the past week. I only watch it for like 15 minutes a day or so. Um but they weren't talking about it. And every other news channel had it on basically all day. So, there you go. Deseray by Note 5001, laughing disco. Thank you. Phil Meyer 2367, in a dream grandma showed me a box. Told my mom about it. She found the box in another box that was sealed before I was born. Her wedding ring in it.
In a dream is your grandma with us still? In a dream grandma showed me a box. Told my mom about it. Told my mom about the dream, I'm guessing. She found the box in another box that was sealed before I was born. Had her wedding ring in it. Had the grandma's wedding ring in it. That's cool. Um I definitely have had things how do you put it? Like information or downloads in dreams.
I have that pretty frequently. Um and it's that's what I'm saying, like to anybody who thinks there is not something else, I think even when I was like a hardcore atheist, I just wasn't aware of like at least for me how the kind of creative process works, where ideas come from for any variety of things that I'm working on. It they ain't my ideas. You know what I mean? And they never really have been.
And I never even thought they were exactly, but I was just kind of like, oh, inspiration is is what I would call it, you know, or whatever. But it's like, what the [ __ ] is that? Where does that come from? Um and so in this case, you're getting literal like direct information from potentially a deceased loved one if indeed grandma is deceased. I'm just assuming there.
Kimmy Crawford, I think it may benefit Mary Lou to take an anonymous poll of your female listeners who are comfy answering if been a victim of sexual assault, etc. The results would shock her. She may feel like she knows us. Um yeah, I mean we've talked about I don't remember what episode it was. This is over a year ago easily. Um Yeah, it's over a year ago. It it was in relation to all the Trump sexual assault allegations.
We did a whole thing where we talked about statistics of like how many women um have experienced some kind of sexual assault in their life. And the numbers were obviously bigger than she thought. And it to my knowledge had no impact on her. So I don't know if this would either, but a good a good idea, good intent for sure. Absolute idiotic. Hey Chad, their picture in Mary Lou background of you kid in pink hat, is that you?
Hey Chad, their picture in ML background of you kid in pink hat, is that you? I think you're asking about who is the kid in the pink hat in the background. It is not me. I don't know exactly who you're talking about. I would have to go back and rewatch and see who that is. I don't know. It might be [ __ ] it might be one of my sister's kids.
Um it might be my sister too when she was a kid, I'm not sure. TJGamer9713, I've never had these quote something is communicating with you type of experiences. Also, I think near death experiences might just be weird peculiarities of the brain freaking out as it nearly shuts down. Sure, I'm not saying everybody has had these TJGamer. Um but at this point I have had them and it just like I feel like as somebody who was hardcore atheist who is like pretty analytical about a lot of things, my the way my brain works is kind of like identifying systems and looking for inefficiencies in them, like kind of
constantly. That's what I do with pretty much everything. And uh to have some kind of thing happen that you can't really explain, that you're just that you feel and see and hear and all of that, too. But like you feel it is real. Um and there's no way to verify that, obviously, because it's something happening in your conscious experience. It at least for me changed the way I thought about all these things. And I'm I'm not saying that everybody will even have experiences like this. But I would encourage you to be open to, you know, the next time you have a synchronicity or something. Some weird thing happens
in your life. A song comes on the radio at just the right moment, and it seems like the lyrics are speaking directly to you about something in your life. Don't dismiss that as mere coincidence. And instead lean into that. And try to [ __ ] feel what is going on there for a minute. And you might find that more of these things will start to happen. I have found the more you like play with the game, the more it starts to play back with you, which I find endlessly fun. Maybe you will, too.
Jack Zilkin. Mary Lou, how can soul begin at fertilization if 75% of embryos don't implant? What cruel god creates souls only to kill most of them? O- OTO, if consciousness is a simulation, three and four users will want a refund. What's OTOH? OTOH. On the other hand, um Yeah, I mean all of these are are kind of, you know, questions that you can the mechanics of like, what is god, what is heaven, how does the soul transmit into a human body, etc., etc., etc., or an animal body or a plant or a rock or a table or a chair. All of these are like
questions that I just don't think are answerable no matter what you believe. If you're an atheist, if you're a Christian, if you're whatever the [ __ ] I am, you know, some kind of agnostic weirdo, I don't know. Um I just I don't think these questions are answerable because the mechanism of human consciousness we just don't understand it at all, not even close at all.
And until we do I don't even think we can ask these questions in any real way, you know. Gimme Crawford. This week store owner I've had to make reports with police about a man that calls and says he's going to essay me and all the other uh gross things and calling me names. You can imagine what he's doing. Jesus. Sorry to hear that. That's terrible.
Um I hope that the police do something about it. That's really terrible. I'm sorry to hear that. Joel She I have it on good authority that Biden actually won 2024 and is still president today. That might actually be why gas is high. Reagan will come back to life and run with Biden in 2028. #bluenon I mean let's see. Hopefully you're right about Biden actually still running. He's not still running though. We know this. This is a conspiracy theory that's too crazy to be believed. Mr. The Red Fox 911 been [clears throat] re-listening to Dudesy.
Oh, thank you very much. Dudesy's another podcast that I used to do with a very good friend of mine named Will Sasso. Been watching Dudesy After Dudesy. Thank you very much. That was the after show that we did on Dudesy. It's amazing how odd the pod shows got. What was in the hole and what is Taffy Teeners? I miss Tom Hanks or Tom Hain and not Miley Cyrus. I miss that show every goddamn day and I wish I was still making it with Will. Um but you know life happens and that's that. But we get we had a good run and it was very fun to
make it while we made it. What was in the hole? We had plans. We had so many plans for where that show was going. C'est la vie. But thank you for watching it. I hope you're enjoying it still. Taylor Sexton 3532, please tell me about the FBI note about Trump with 13-year-old. Suppose here, let me just Google this real quick. FBI notes on Trump essay minors. Let me see what I can find for you real quick.
In March 2026, the US [clears throat] Justice Department published previously withheld FBI interview memos known as 302 files from a 2019 investigation in Epstein. The document contained unverified allegations from an anonymous woman who claimed she was sexually assaulted by Trump in the '80s when she was a minor. Um Okay. Uh let me see if I can This thing isn't bringing it up. The FBI conducted four separate interviews with various women. Here it is. In 2019, the initial public release of Epstein-related documents earlier omitted these interview memos. So they're like handwritten memos by these FBI agents who were interviewing these women that said Trump sexually assaulted
them when they were children. Um the DOJ subsequently published their many memos detailing the accounts. But I I don't think they did or I could be wrong on this. My understanding is that we have not yet seen those and that they they might come to light soon. But I could be wrong about that. Sam Sational 33, someone in comments said, "Use your Magic the Gathering glasses to see these comments." [laughter] Here's the thing.
These are not my Magic the Gathering glasses. These are magnifying lenses that I use to make my little Magic the Gathering cards that I used to draw on the cards. And they don't When I put these on, I can't see [ __ ] in front of me. I can see like there. I can see my finger right there. That's how close it has to be to my eye to see it. So, anything further than whatever that is, 3/4 of an inch, cannot be seen while wearing those, unfortunately.
Um Which Tina? Hi Chad, you should challenge Mary Lou to only send incredible sources in Wednesday apps. Not sure she understands the difference between people's opinion and facts. How would she know if it's credible, though? I can tell her that, tell her I'm blue in the face. You can only use credible sources. Make sure they're true. She's not How does she [ __ ] know? She's never going to be able to do that.
[snorts] Mushroom Reaper 7745, have you reached out to someone like Dean Withers or Sam Cedar to talk to your parents? Yeah, we had um Parker get a job on, who's like a Dean Withers-esque type, you know, left-wing debater. You can go back and watch that episode. It's in our YouTube feed somewhere. The thumbnail for it is like his head big in the middle. So, yeah, we've already had somebody like Dean Withers on. And I believe I DM'd with Dean Withers for a minute, but then my dad outlawed having anybody under 30 on. Has Dean Withers hit 30 years old yet? I don't know.
Oopy Doopy. Please learn about how American and Canadian companies have devastated devastated Latin America for 100 plus years and driven the violence and cartels to the point of creating creating immigration. Then teach Mary Lou. All right, it's good to look into. I don't know anything about any of this. Um Canadian and American companies have devastated Latin America for 100 plus years, driven the violence cartels to the point of creating immigration.
Then teach Mary Lou. All right, I'll look into this. Where do you want it, Skinner? We'll assume Bob is against universal health care and free college. Yes, correct assumption. Funny how his generation feels entitled to my generation's money for war, but don't care. But don't dare invest in them. Um, yeah, he's definitely not into those things. We've had multiple conversations when he was on the show about those very things like when Biden was doing the student loan forgiveness, he was very against that.
And universal health care, also against that. He believes you shouldn't have to pay for your health insurance and have a good job to get your good health insurance. However, haven't talked to him about that since he's been like in and out of the hospital for the past 3 months or whatever it's been. So, maybe he's got a different uh opinion on it. Time will [snorts] tell.
Sam Sational, high five. Thank you. Um, Sam Sational, happy poop. Thank you. Mr. The Red Fox 911, I need some crow ones. Also, I ate them all, pal. Do love TNT.
[snorts] Every time I see a crow, this is another Doozy reference. Every time I see a crow now, I in my head just hear Pacino.
[laughter] And anytime I say something them all, it always comes out. I watched them all, pal. I ate them all, pal. Always, every time. It will forever be with me. Just Evon, thank you very much. David Cabanas 9121, do you think it would be possible to get Mary Lou to reconcile the fact that her saluting with a Trump red flag hat is a modern day equivalent to Sieg Heil-ing with a swastika? She does it when you compliment her.
No, I don't believe that will ever be possible. I remember when um Elon Musk did his Nazi salute, my parents refused to believe that that's what it was. He was just waving. So, no, I don't think this is possible. Abby can cook. I feel like she understood a lot of points that Nate pointed out to her a few weeks ago. Why do you think she's acting like she forgot all of it?
I think my dad I think my dad is pulling her back in. She's in his orbit, caught in it, being sucked into the black hole.
[snorts] Mr. Mrs. Sorry, miss. Sean RNB SN When she said abort the baby because it's black, wow. No [ __ ] That's what I'm talking about. The the racism is like it's just there. It's a part of them. And I don't that part is like can you ever get that out of somebody? I mean, you can. You can. People can change. I 100% believe that.
I I take my own change from being like hardcore atheist to to being more into like woo woo [ __ ] and stuff like that now as evidence of that. If you would have told me when I was 25 years old like, bro, you're going to be meditating and seeing entities and [ __ ] when you're 50, I would have been like, you are out of your [ __ ] gourd. And yet, here I am. So, I think it is possible. I don't know how to do that exactly yet, but I think like their racism is a it's a big part of why they're in MAGA and it's a big piece
of this puzzle that we got to get out if we're going to get her totally to come to the other side. Side of the Hamfor 20. Which historical figure do you think would make a great wrestler? Also feels like Mary Lou has regressed in giving up when you bombed her with facts. She has regressed a little bit, but again, we we still hold strong abolish ice universal health care.
What historical figure would make a great wrestler? I don't know. Who Who's like one of the biggest people? I don't know. [laughter] Um Attila the Hun. I'll say that. We've got Abby Normal Sparkles. Thank you. Mason SC super random, how often do you indulge in the devil's lettuce? Preferred methods? Sorry for being off topic. You're awesome Chad, thank you for your dedication. Thank you for your dedication and question.
Um, not as often as I used to. As I am getting older, I'm kind of aging out of it. I really only use it strangely, like almost ceremonially at this point, when I go to get deep tissue massages. I get super high and I listen to theta wave music and [ __ ] bye-bye. I'm in another dimension, dude. Um Oh, and my preferred method is through a Pax vaporizer.
Gin and Tonic Chay go back and look at the video. You never got past that's different. You never said why the Hornet and the Lincoln's deployments are different. Yeah, I did. I I said that the um Abraham Lincoln, they haven't been into port and the Hornet did. I literally said that. I'm pretty sure. May- maybe not. Maybe you got me, I don't know, but I am I feel I remember saying it. Um Alikend Candland?
Alikendland? Or is that Candyland 9559? Sorry. Chad and coaching reality TV players, have you would you ever advise someone to get plastic surgery? Hope Mary Louis flattered by the Botox allegations. I would never recommend anyone do anything that they don't want to do uh to their body, obviously. And it's I don't think it's like necessary to go into reality TV at all. But, you know, people have their reasons for doing that [ __ ] Your body, your choice. If you want to get some of that, go ahead and get some of that. If you want Botox, whatever.
You know, I don't I don't personally feel any type of way about it. It's like whatever. You have this thing to [ __ ] around with while you're alive. Do as you please. Miracle Bunny 4352, remember when Watergate was one of the biggest US political controversies? Cuz I sure do. The things Trump has done make Nixon look like a saint. I know. I I do remember uh really prior to Trump, I guess, it was like Nixon and Watergate was just like the biggest American political scandal that a president was involved in in the history of our country. Now, it's just like it's not even close. It doesn't matter.
Um I don't know how history is going to like look back on Trump. Not well, obviously. But, the the years after Trump are going to be fascinating in this country. Because, I think he has he has kicked the you know, the boulder down the mountain. Is it going to turn into a snowball that crushes America? Or are we going to be able to avoid it? I don't know.
Joiner Shawl, gold trophy, thank you. Um Snixsaby [snorts] Snixsaby Snixsaby treat, thank you. Combo Dobbler [laughter] Combo Dobbler was a character that I put in uh It was in uh these kind How do I even explain this to somebody who's never seen Dudesy? We used to do a bit on there where uh my buddy Will would have to read his so-called childhood journals um in the voice of Stone Cold Steve Austin.
And Combo Dobbler was a character in those childhood journ- journals. So, thank you for that username. Uh made me laugh. And finally, Judy Friday Saturday. Uncle Alert. Oh, I ended it with an Uncle Alert. Thank you for my Uncle Alert. And thank you everybody for joining me tonight. I'm sorry my mom couldn't make it. She was texting with me and she's like, "What time is it going to be at?" And I'm like, "Same time as every week, literally." 6:00 p.m.
Um and she thought it was 6:00 p.m. her time. So, it was too late for her. But, maybe next week she'll be on. And maybe next week on our Sunday show, my dad might be on for a minute. I am very curious to see what that is going to be like. Jesus Christ. So please join me for that. Join me for Wednesday. I don't know what we're going to do yet. Like I said, maybe we'll do a little thing about what is civil court, what is, you know, a civil conviction, what does that mean? Because I think my mom does need that education. But
if something else pops up, we may cover that instead. So whatever it is, we'll have a show on Wednesday. Join us for that. And thank you for joining me for this one. Until next time. See you then.