Does Maga Think Trump Is Racist Yet?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Kultgen with me is my sister Haley squinting. And my mom and my dad. Of course, this podcast is a conversation between two adult children, me and my sister, who are very left, and two MAGA adult parents who are deep in the cult. Mom, do you have ditties to begin the show? >> Well, it's kind of a ditty because you didn't have this down as a topic, so I would just like to thank our President Trump Uh. because the big days of MAGA, and I've got to read it, so don't get on me >> what do you think I don't have in there? Because there are some things that I didn't put in the document that I do want to talk about. trumprx.com That wasn't one of them. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Okay. That's what I would like to talk about. It's very important to people that need drugs, Chad, that need pharmaceuticals. Yeah. So, thanks to President Trump, the days of big pharma price gouging are over. This just started. It's Trump rx.gov. Mhm. Uh they're leveraging full weight and power of the United States of America, and he has ensured that every American will get the lowest prices for their drugs. They've started with 42 different drugs on there. Uh they're going to keep adding more and more. There is uh some insulin. There is one drug that your father does use that is almost, if you have no insurance, if you don't have co-pays, it's over 700 a month. Mhm. >> But that is going to help us. So, introducing um it's the nation pricing guaranteed for huge savings for all Americans. Um I need to read >> 8 or 900% I heard is what Trump said. I know. There's a lot of >> understand that's not right. Correct? >> Well, we will see as it rolls out. There's a lot of >> So you can have up to 100% off. That makes it free. Right. >> Then 200% off means they're paying you money. But we have to pay people to make the drugs too here in the United States. >> not understanding. Never mind. Go ahead. Continue. Um he did say I do remember this in his speech a long time ago that he was going to make weight loss drugs affordable for any American that wanted to use them to lose the weight. A lot of those uh pills are on here. It's uh the pills, the Ozempic, the Zepbound. Um it and on his website it lists all the drugs and the discounts. Um I'm kind of excited about this. I needed dive a little deeper into this and everybody does that needs help with drug costs. Hope it's real. So I salute President Trump in helping people with drug costs. I can't wait to get paid. Yeah, I want 900% off everything I do. Yeah. Okay. >> guys but you guys are young. You don't take a lot of drugs. Um you know, prescription drugs. >> the way, when you get your $2,000 I wouldn't worry. tariffs Because of what? >> Because of Trump's tariffs he's going to pay everybody two 2,000 >> $2,000 per tax Haven't we been Haven't we been hearing this charade for the last year? >> Well, it's coming now. Oh, okay. Now it's coming. >> And we and and you and Hank you and Chad get to send your checks to us. >> Is it coming with 900% interest? Well, you just Okay, $2,000 you just endorse it and put it in the mail. It's not coming. Um is that your Diddy mom? That was it. Okay. First thing I want to talk about is Trump's Super Bowl show, then we're going to get to the listener question. Did you watch the game? Did you watch the Super Bowl any of you? Yes. >> Yes, part of it. Okay, so we all watched it to some degree. Trump supporter Robert Kraft who owns the New England Patriots was decimated in the Super Bowl. Do you have any reactions to that? We on Navy. I guess not. Okay. Did you watch the halftime show? Yes. >> No. We watched the Turning Point USA halftime show. Of course you did. >> Wow. What did you watch it on? TBN. Yes. It was streamed on all the other ones. Is that Trinity Broadcasting Network? Yes. Yes. >> So you had to watch it on a Christian channel? Yes. No, we didn't have to, but we did. We chose to watch it. >> having problems like streaming or something? Yeah. They couldn't stream it to Twitter. 60 million people watched watched it other than on It was like 4 million people. No, you're wrong. Okay, I've got to go. When you add when you add up all all the different networks, it was 16 million. A 900% increase. It was on YouTube, Daily Wire, Real America, something. It was on TBN, it was on OAN. And that's It was like 4.5 million people, guys. Yeah, that's what I was telling you. And then 150 million people watched Bad Bunny cuz it was [ __ ] amazing. >> because of the Super Bowl. But on the YouTube it went up to 6.1 million. On all the other platforms it went up to 9.9, call it 10 million. Yeah, that that doesn't compare to probably 130 million, 140 for the regular football game, but I'll tell you this, it was patriotic, it was about America, it was in English and we loved it. What that's just It was in Did you >> English? It was in English until Kid Rock forgot his lyrics. Then it wasn't in any language. It Did you guys Were you offended by him not remembering his own lyrics? No, I was not >> about Kid Rock? He has like a song that's about statutory rape. Okay, I knew you'd get to that. That song was published way back in like 50 something. I looked it up. >> Oh, so it doesn't count. >> 50 something? >> Yeah, 57 the first time it was ever played. Then from there >> 1957? written down to >> Kid Rock was not alive in 1957. No. That's right. >> But that song was. And he didn't sing it till like a year ago or 2 years ago or whatever. But between that time >> Oh my god, let me You talk about >> That song was on his album that came out in 2000. or thereabouts. That's Kid Rock's version. of it. >> Yes, that's right. >> is from 1957. So, shut it. >> statutory rape was fine. But the fact that you guys are um in any way alluding that Kid Rock is full of wholesome Christian values is laughable. >> going to We We just watched it on TV and cuz it was easy to get. Here we go. >> two on our TV. He He is a born again Christian, so is that something that upsets y'all? Okay, cool daddy. >> Cool daddy was or daddy cool was the first was the name of the song. It was first released August 1957 by the Rays. From that point on, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 different versions and releases of it. His was probably the 13th. Uh when he did it last performed with James Last or something August of '78 in a medley. Then he released it in 2001 featuring Joe C Joe C >> and Kid Rock And I know those lyrics those lyrics in there are not good. They're not. Yeah, Kid Rock is trash. That's why it was the only person they could get to perform at the Turning Point USA halftime show. Well, let me ask you guys this. country singers that we like, too. And it was Let me ask you this. We enjoyed it. Let me ask you this. What halftime show do you think Trump watched? Of course. I have no idea. Probably the one you would think. Bad Bunny He watched Bad Bunny at his Super Bowl Mar-a-Lago party. There's video of that. >> That was his choice. He's an American. We didn't choose that. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Just making sure you'll still defend him. Speaking of Well, no, we're not going to get to the first topic yet. We do have a listener question. If you want to send us a question, all you have to do is record it in a 1-minute or shorter video format, send it to the necessary [email protected]. Are you ready for today's question? Yes. Here we go. Hi Kolchin family. I'm John from Missouri and my question is for Chad and Haley. I have repeatedly heard you guys say and imply that your parents are not real Christians. Now, I make no apologies for the fact that I disagree with 99% of the things that Bob and Mary Lu have to say, but I do believe they have a right to be respected for their religious identity even if their values and ideologies don't necessarily match up with the societal expectations for their religion. It's in much the same way I respect people's gender identities even if their biology doesn't necessarily match up with the societal expectations for their gender. Chad, I have especially heard you quote the words of Christ, love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, because that lines up with your idea of Christianity. But Jesus also said, I did not come to bring peace but a sword to divide parents and children. That sounds more like your dad's idea of Christianity. My question is, who has the authority to decide who is a real Christian and where does that authority come from? Thank you. I love that question. I knew you guys would. My answer to it is this. To my knowledge, those the quotes he's talking about bringing the sword and dividing the families has nothing to do with violence. It's actually about ideology. It's saying, "I'm coming here to say I'm the son of God. I know that's going to rile [ __ ] up. You guys have to kind of figure out where you're going." But largely this is a semantic argument. It's Okay, fine. I'm Christian then. I don't believe in God or Jesus Christ, but I'm a Christian. So, the idea that he's kind of trying to skirt around is like, "Who are you to say that they're not Christian?" Well, who is anybody to say that they are then in that case, you know? Or who is You okay, Dad? Yeah, I just had a yawn. Okay. Is that against the rules? No. Haley, what do you think? Um I could talk about religion for hours and hours, I think. Um all uh religions are potentially toxic and poison in their own right. I think that Mom and Dad do not practice Christianity by the Bible. Um that's that's what constitutes a Christian. You follow your God, your Bible, your book. That is a Christian. You guys don't follow that. So, that's why I say that you're not really Christians. I don't think you even believe in Jesus. I think you believe that there's like a higher power. But I don't believe that you are Christians. That's your belief. I am a Christian. I do have faith in Jesus Christ. I do believe in God. Mhm. And I don't have to read the Bible, Haley, to be a Christian. Okay. >> That's number one rule. You don't have to read the Bible all the way through to be a Christian. Then you're not a Christian. You don't adhere to Christian rules. By faith. There is like an organized There's an organized religion called Christianity. >> even Hey. What principles do you incorporate into your life? Catholics don't even read the Bible. But which Christian principles do you incorporate into your life? That's true. You don't pray, you don't go to church, you don't read the Bible, you certainly don't think that immigrants should be welcomed in our country. Okay, Dad, so hang on. Dad says Catholics don't read the Bible. You don't think the Pope has read the Bible? No. Catholic, you don't have to read the Bible. I'm 100% sure he hasn't read the Bible. >> Now, the Gospels are read during mass, that is for sure. The sacraments of Catholic faith are practiced within the church and within your heart, I guess. Christian teaching, traditions, that's what Catholic is. And under the sacraments, if you were baptized, confirmed, married, all of that, that was us. That's us. That was us. That's us. We just don't practice by going to church now. But you also don't practice some of the fundamental tenets of love thy neighbor type [ __ ] You know what I mean? You guys hate a lot of different groups of people. That is very un-Christian. >> That is your opinion. No, no, you stated literally on this SHOW EVERY WEEK. ALL KINDS of people, Chad. We love people. >> to your person guy. I did listen to the person guy and I think that Jesus said, "Draw the sword." Right, that's not what that quote means. I Before I play this I read a lot online about what that actually means, huh? >> what you think it means, it's irrelevant. >> I think to be a Christian it's your faith by your You're a You're a atheist, communist. >> I'm not an atheist or communist. You're an atheist and a communist. >> Okay. >> Okay. Let's Thank you very much for your question. We got no good answers here. Let's move on to our first topic. Trump's racist post. >> an answer. This week Trump posted an overtly racist image of the Obamas as apes to his personal Truth Social account. After bipartisan outrage, the video that contained the image was taken down from his account after 12 hours. Caroline Leavitt then lied about a staffer Are you listening? Yes. What are you talking about? >> you. I hear you. Stop with the sidebars. Just listen to the goddamn question. Caroline Leavitt then Caroline Leavitt then lied about a staffer posting the video in an attempt to shift blame from Trump, but then Trump himself said, "No, I saw the video and told someone to post it." Claiming he didn't see the racist imagery at the end of the video. Trump is still refusing to apologize for posting the video, telling reporters, "I didn't make a mistake." And he also said he's the least racist president you've had in a long time. Okay. Mom. >> That's terrible, and he is not a racist, but go on. >> Okay, well, that's my first question. Mom, is Donald Trump racist? Absolutely not. Okay. >> racist, okay. Sorry, go ahead, Mom. No, Mom, you had more to say? >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Dad, is Donald Trump racist? No, I don't think he's racist. In the Epstein files, it said that he absolutely did not want any black children coming to the island for him, just FYI. Just FYI, that's fake and false. Okay. >> If he's a racist, why did he help Jennifer Hudson's family when they lost everything and everybody was murdered in her family, and he paid for everything? And his son-in-law is Jewish. Why would he back HBCU, the historical black college university at 255 million a year? Why did he bring that initiative to the White House? Why did he forgive 300 million to those same people for debt forgiveness? Why If you're calling him a racist, how do you support that? And he also supports a lot of black civical civic rights leaders. So >> He has to do that for the optics, so that people like you can say he's not racist. I would counter your questions with these questions. Okay. >> Why did he post a picture of the Obamas as apes? Why doesn't he believe Obama was born in this country? Why did he take out a full-page ad in the New York Times condemning the Central Park five? Because with Obama there's never been proven document that he was born where he's supposed to be born. Number two, on that account that was shared those pictures it was a 62-second video that promoted claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election. That had an image of the Obamas as apes. >> end or near of that video was a two-second clip that showed the Obamas or depicted them on the bodies of apes. Now, that clip in its entirety has >> to admit, Big Mike, who has Donald Trump as the lion, Hillary as a warthog, AOC as a donkey, Chuck Schumer as a zebra, and it goes on and on. And the two black people in it are apes. That are depicted as that. Now, it's funny that you guys bring that up, but yet, let me find the picture that you guys have put online of Trump. What year was it that like it's he literally said, you know, he would not allow black people in his building. Yeah, they they got sued. Him and his dad got sued I think back in the '80s for discriminatory housing practices of a building they owned. Mom, I don't know what you're doing there. Let me ask you this question. Do you think the image of the Obamas as apes is racist? It's not. I think it's on the money. Yeah, so the answer is yes. That Big Mike, that Big Mike, Jesus. Here's the one that you guys can put up and this is an okay picture, I guess. What is going on over there? Trump as an orangutan, and that one's okay with all of you. Is that okay? It's not racist? No. Calling him an orange orangutan, that's not racist? No. He's he [laughter] wears orange face paint. Do you disagree with that? He's not an orangutan as well as they are not apes and that's not right either way. But >> But when you guys find one thing like that, that's what you load up on. >> one thing. That's what you're missing. That was not a photograph that was posted. It was the end of that video >> Let me clip Okay. And he also was asked the question if he thought that was right and he said no. But the staffer that did that should be the one saying they're sorry and it was taken down. Well, that's a lie. So why do you think Caroline Levitt lied about the staffer posting it, Mom? How do you know that's a lie? >> Yeah, how do we know that's a lie? >> said he did it. No, he didn't. >> No, he didn't. He said his staffer did it. >> god. Caroline Levitt came out and said a staffer posted that then Trump said, "No, I watched the video and told them to post it." He was the one who made the decision. >> Probably the closest looking animal to him. So why did Caroline Levitt lie about a staffer doing it when Trump said to do it? I didn't think that was a lie, Chad. Trump is on camera saying, "I saw the video and told someone to post it." That's his decision. And I saw Trump say it was a staffer that posted it. So who's right, you or me? And also in the video clip of the lion thing going on with all the lions and all the other people as animals, at the end Joe Biden is a monkey. Why aren't we bringing that up? Kamala was a turtle. Okay. So If if he would if someone anyone would have posted the picture of just them depicting themselves as apes, yeah, that's racist. That's not right. But because it's in a larger of that was first surfaced in 2025 in October. You really do just like kind of go around in circles no matter what the issue is involving Donald Trump. >> said that in a nutshell. That's what you said in a nutshell. In a nutshell. You can't justify it. So that means you're racist. That means you are racist because you excuse it. So can you just admit that that you are racist? Dad has said it multiple times. You are. You are. You saw two black people depicted as apes. That's racist. And if you're cool with that, that makes you a racist. >> He tried to match people up Just like you saying that you didn't want to hear people speaking Spanish at the [ __ ] Super Bowl. That's racist. Now what that is, I don't understand Spanish. I like to listen to songs that I can understand what they're saying. I don't like the fucker's music. But you understand there's like 60 million people in the United States who do speak Spanish. I don't care. Happy. Half should be Spanish. And Bad Bunny is Puerto Rican and his first language is Spanish. Why shouldn't he be able to sing his native language? That's too [ __ ] bad. This is correct. And three and a half months ago he told us all we better start learning Spanish. That's not very nice, is it? >> Why? Why? I'm so sorry that offended you. I have one more one more question. One more question about this Trump being completely racist now in open mask off style. Why will Trump not apologize for this, Mom? I do not believe that he posted that. They said the staffer did and it wasn't like a He said he [ __ ] told them to post it. He did. Why should he be sorry? Because it's racist. No, it's not. That clip was hooked on to the other one about fraud. So, the one about fraud was playing You're not getting it. You're not getting it. They didn't cut it off in time, and everybody >> thick-headed. You go round and round in circle. Everybody thought that he just posted that picture on >> You're a communist. Also, the fact that he [ __ ] made this video, are we 12? When he >> This is the president of the United States posting [ __ ] like this. You know he's >> And you're a communist. >> a president like we've never had. You know that. We talked about that. >> terrible. The biggest piece of [ __ ] president we've ever had. >> I'm sorry you feel [snorts] that way. We don't. >> Speaking of a president we've never had, let's talk about our next topic. The DOJ is deleting files from the Epstein files that contain Trump's name. After the DOJ DOJ released 3 million new Epstein files last week, it seems they've been busy deleting files from their publicly searchable database. >> this. Okay. Go ahead. It's not DOG, it's DOJ. We know. >> it. Good one. Good one. We got him. That's it. I guess we end the show. Well, that's it. Dad caught me in a mispronunciation, and so I'm magging now. You're chopped. Okay, stop. >> read your own [ __ ] >> Put your hat back on. >> for Trump's name on January 31st returned 5,362 documents. The same search on February 1st returned 5,333, meaning 29 files had been removed. Then on February 4th, an additional 542 files had been removed. Then on the 8th, an additional 630 documents had been removed. Mom, why is the DOJ removing Trump's documents from the Epstein files? Why did you not bring that today, right now as we're speaking? The DOJ is allowing members of Congress to get a few a view of unredacted everything in the files. The lawmakers can view it today, probably right now as we are the time that we are flipping this right now. On computers, the members of the house and members of the Senate get priority. They're going in there right now, Chad. I want the truth out. I I don't want You're You're doing a great job of not answering my question even remotely. The question is, why is the DOJ deleting files that contain Trump's name? And what who told you they were doing that and where? Is that on >> This is all over the internet. People have been searching Trump's name. Oh, it's the internet. Woo! That makes it real. People have been searching Trump's name in the Epstein files since it came out and each successive day the amount of files that come up when you just search for Trump, the number gets smaller and smaller. They are deleting files that contain his name. So, when you're saying uh Congresspeople, senators, whoever is going to get access to the unredacted files, does that contain all of the files they originally released or are these roughly thousand files now that they've deleted with Trump's name in it, are they not part of that? I know. When I read your topic, I thought, well, how's that going to happen? So, they've done all that and then they're letting them view? I seriously doubt it. With all the millions of pages. They're deleting files that contain his name. Good. Why are they doing it, Mom? For fun. Because there was nothing in there in the first place. Trump's [ __ ] name is in them. They're not deleting anyone else's files. They're not deleting Elon Musk's files. Even if there's nothing on them. >> was That's tampering with the files. Why would you delete them? Why would you delete them? I've never read it. I've never read that. I'm Somebody sent me a clip, by the way, that's like a montage of you saying, "I need to research that. I've never read that." It's >> what? You never >> [laughter] >> You never give me airtime to rebuttal back, but that's okay. You You do the rebuttals in the off-the-air time. We have the conversation here, then if you say I need to read that, I assume you then go read that when we're done, but you never do. I read the cancer thing you asked me to look up. I looked up that movie you asked me to look up. Did you ever read after we talked about the Epstein files and them releasing these 3 million pages? Did you ever go and read what he was accused of doing? Yes, that's on the That's on the tips hotline. Have you? No, there's way more than on the tips hotline. They're active investigations of people who are >> one of you read [ __ ] either. Okay. You're a couple of communists. Please stop calling that, Bob Roy. I'm calling them communists. Stop it. Really. >> Okay. Why are you leaning off camera to berate him? Giving him the eagle eye, that's why. The eagle eye. All right. Let's move on to our third topic. Trump wants to end states' voting rights. This week Trump told Dan Bongino that he thinks Republicans should quote take over the voting and nationalize elections in at least 15 unspecified places in order to rig the election so the GOP would never lose again. The term nationalize here refers to moving control The term nationalize here refers to moving control or oversight of elections away from the state and local authorities toward the Republican Party or the federal level, which is a clear violation of states' rights as outlined in the document called the Constitution. All 24 Democratic governors issued a joint statement condemning Trump's proposal as authoritarian overreach, and even if you Republicans express concern about federalizing elections, emphasizing that states control election administration and that centralizing it would be a significant departure again from the Constitution. Mom, do you think state elections should be controlled by the federal government? No, the state is an agent of the federal government, but what Trump said is uh um he supports the SAVE Act. Haley, do you know what the SAVE Act is? Chad, do you know what the SAVE Act is? >> Bring it. Which they're going to vote on in Congress pretty quick. It means that everybody needs a voter ID to vote. That's not what he's talking about here. That's not what he was talking about with Dan Bongino. You're 100% wrong. He's talking about taking the control of elections from state election boards and making it federal. So, the his administration basically >> an excellent move. Okay. >> Okay. Now, wait a minute. Dad, you were a huge proponent of states' rights. You always have been on this show. >> That's until they turn blue. Okay, so you're not then in favor of states' rights. >> No, I'm I'm in favor of the federal government to take it over. Okay. Against states' rights. >> corruption. So, you then are you're talking about being communist and stuff, but it seems like you have way more communist views than Haley and I do. >> I seriously doubt that. Well, you're saying you want to take away all control from states. Uh just the blue ones. Right. That's states. No, it's not. Okay, so then if a a Democratic um president is in office, you would be okay with taking all control from Republican states. If he if that's what he wants to do and the people vote yes. Okay, so you're against states' rights. No, I'm I'm for the population and what they want. And [snorts] right now, the majority of the people on our side of the fence want all blue states to be controlled by the federal government, and I'm all for it. Okay. Mom? Yeah, please. Because you said it was a lie. Liz Landers, White House correspondent PBS hour, said, "The White House was asked it several times this week about Trump supporting um you know, changing it up to the from the states to the federal." Yeah. Caroline Levitt said, "What the president meant was he's supporting the >> That's You're You're already over. What you're saying is already invalid. I'm giving you my Karoline Leavitt is a notorious [ __ ] liar. I'm giving you where I got my information from. But no, Mom. That information Jen Psaki, she was a true true sayer. >> Hang on a minute. Hang on. Mom, I just want to outline something. The information you're telling me is not what Trump said. It's what his White House said. After they were asked about what he said. >> Okay, wait. The the Biden's pygmy, she didn't lie every day of her life. Good one, Dad. Karoline Leavitt is like one of the most evil pieces of [ __ ] on the planet. >> Forget Karoline Leavitt. Hang on. Forget all of that. Forget it all. Mom, the things I'm saying No, you wait. You wait, Mom. Listen. Trump went on Dan Bongino's podcast and said this [ __ ] Said it should be taken over by the federal government. Said Republicans should control elections. >> I have not seen that happen. >> I haven't seen it. I'll have to research it. I haven't seen that. >> you're saying, I haven't seen it either, and we need to research it. Bye. >> either, so there we are. I have seen that. This is what happens every time with Trump. He says some crazy [ __ ] then Karoline Leavitt gets asked about it by reporters in a press conference, and she's like, "No, no, no. Actually, what he meant was That's not what Trump said. So now it's spin control. Well, we can't have states taking over voting cuz that is not the Constitution. States currently control voting. That's why he sent in the FBI to take ballots. >> That's right. I meant the other way. I meant the other way. I feel everybody needs a voter ID to to vote. If you don't have a voter ID, you can't >> to do with this. That has nothing to do with this. Okay. We are talking about Donald Trump saying the United States government and the the Republicans will control state elections now. Yeah, no. >> Agreed. I don't think it should. Okay. At least we're on the same page there. I mean, that's the end of elections as we know it. >> Well, I'm not on the same page there. What? I'm not on the same page. But there's so much corruption in each state. So, how do we How do we get rid of the corruption? The people that are dead that vote. The people that are not even US citizens that vote. Have to have a ID. Do you know a state that allows people to vote without an ID? They need to be controlled by >> That doesn't happen. Oh. It It most It most certainly does. I saw one man vote five times to go back and vote five times in one state. >> him do it, huh? I would >> Well, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I'm glad you didn't. >> Where did you get that from? I'm glad you didn't. It's not real. It's fake. You don't see a lot of stuff. You spend all your time doing other things. Okay. Um this is from the American Immigration Council debunking the myth of illegal immigrants voting. In the last presidential election, 10 illegal immigrants voted. going on. In the last election, 10 illegal immigrants voted. Ask how many dead people voted. >> [laughter] [gasps] >> Let me see. If any illegal aliens voted, it should be taken away from that state. How many non-citizens and dead people voted? I would like to know that stat. Non-citizens, I just told you 10. Um Where at? But the the the the dead people >> you looking at? 1,200 proven cases. So, you're looking at 1,210 votes out of 80 million that were cast. Ask whoever you're Googling, who are you Googling? Google or >> This is BallotPedia. We're not getting into the weeds here. Look. Yes. Yes, of course we're not. How many ballots were never counted? How many were? How many were thrown away? How many were stolen by the FBI? Seized. Yeah, okay. >> Okay, go on. Our next topic is Tulsi Gabbard, is she a spy? This week it was revealed that Trump's director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has been keeping a whistleblower complaint secret that was filed in May of 2025 alleging that the NSA intercepted a call between a foreign intelligence officer and a person close to President Donald Trump. The whistleblower claims that when the intelligence surface Gabbard in her role as, again, director of national intelligence hid the information instead of following normal procedures. Are you listening to all that? Yeah. Yes, he's fixing his hat. He has this hat thing going on now. Gabbard reportedly directed the NSA officials not to publish the intelligence widely and instructed the report to be routed only to her office blocking the intelligence from being disseminated as it normally would to Congress. The complaint claims the information was so classified that it was kept in a safe and was not shared with Congress even though the law requires whistleblower complaints to be passed along within weeks. The identities of both the foreign government and the person close to Trump are still being classified, hidden by Tulsi, not publicly confirmed in the complaint released to Congress. So, Mom, why do you think Tulsi Gabbard hid information about somebody close to Trump communicating with a foreign intelligence operative? I choose not to answer on this one. I couldn't find anything on it. There you go. >> Okay. There you go. That's the show. Dad, why do you think Tulsi is keeping um a communication between a foreign intelligence officer and somebody close to Trump secret? To keep it secret. Okay, but you understand what's what this means? Yeah. What? She's hiding uh what do you call it? Uh Sensitive? No. Cooperation or cooperation between Trump and another country. Yes, a spy from another country. She's protecting that. Right, she's protecting another government I understand. >> spying on us. That's fine. >> no time to research this one. >> That's fine. I'm trying to Google it now, but >> Dad, you think it's fine that a foreign government is being helped by the Director of National Intelligence to spy on our government? >> us before she ever came around, you dumb ass. Okay. How is that putting America first? To allow a spy to help a spy get information about us? >> this stuff corrected. Biden was so deep in the weeds with these foreign governments, it's just going to take It's going to take years to correct it. Okay. And Mom, you're refusing to engage on this. >> that overnight. >> That's not a bad answer. I still can't find anything on >> Not a bad answer. So, here's what happens. The whistleblower is like, "Oh, shit." >> happened. I do, because it's been reported on. Okay. >> Go ahead, I'm listening. >> comes out and says, "Hey, I have credible evidence that a foreign spy is talking to somebody close to Trump." What? >> Let me talk. What did you say, Dad? Nothing. Go ahead. >> comes out and says, "I have this phone call that occurred between a spy and somebody Mom, are you listening to me at least?" Yes, I'm listening. Whistleblower comes out and says, "I have this phone call that is between a spy and somebody close to Donald Trump." Okay. >> Gives it to the Director of National Intelligence, Toolsey. Toolsey then says, "Thanks. Let me put that in a vault and not tell anybody about it." Why would she do that? Well, if that's wrongdoing, she needs to This needs to be a file opened up on her then. What do you mean if it's a wrongdoing? Do you think it's wrongdoing? If she's hiding something, yes. She [ __ ] put it in a safe. Yeah, she's hiding it. Right. Then a file needs to be opened up on her. Let's find out, get to the bottom of it. Okay. So, all right. Let's just move on. The simmer down Look at that hat. I'm sorry. He may not be able to wear this much longer. The simmer down this week, I thought it would be interesting to talk about our deaths. When we all die, I plan on trying to come back symbolically or as an animal or something like this. I don't know if any of you do, but I'm curious. >> were going to get frozen. Yeah, I thought you were going to be frozen. What about that? I am, but it's kind of a joke at this point. I I visited Alcor's 50th anniversary thing and I was like, this is never going to work. This is real bad. >> away. Do you still pay them? Yeah. You still pay them? Yes. Why? Okay, so the question is when you die, how will you come back? What symbol will you try to reveal yourself as? Will you be an animal? Will you be a beam of sunlight coming in through the window? >> Yeah, Haley? Uh I joke that I will haunt the [ __ ] out of my kids. Like come back as an apparition and scare them. So, maybe >> ghost. A little bit of fear. Um [laughter] but that I'm always joking. I don't want to scare my kids. So, I don't know. Probably like a black cat cross your path. Okay. Cuz black cats are like a thing for us or like maybe a Noah Khan song on the radio for no [ __ ] reason at all. >> Okay. Dad, when you die, what will you come back as to haunt Haley and I? Me. Oh. >> [laughter] >> We'll just see you walking down the street in that cowboy hat. Yeah. Okay, Mom. >> would be a horse. >> know Mom's. No, a horse. A butterfly. Butterfly? Those are too easy. Those are too easy. You could just see a butterfly and go, "Oh, there she is." Yeah, we're not going there. >> Kelsey Anderson does that on The Bachelor. A red horse. A red like >> Red. Red. Fire engine red? Like shiny. Color shiny horse. >> Okay. Shiny horse. >> All right. I'll come back as a squirrel. >> And it has to come right up to you. It has to give you kisses. It's got to be the horse. Okay. And for Dad, it has to be literally you. >> Dad. In the red cowboy hat. Okay. I'll be a squirrel. I will come up. I will sit on your lap and look you dead in the eye and speak English saying, "I'm Chad Gulchrin." Like >> Never forget this moment and then I will go into the trees and you'll never see me again. I will be a squirrel in my next life. I'm positive of this. >> So, you're not You're going to chop off your head? Huh? He's still stuck on Al Gore now. Oh, no, I'm doing full body. Moving on to our next topic, the Olympics. The Winter Olympics kicked off this week in San Siro Stadium in Milan and J.D. Vance and his wife were in attendance when the vice president appeared on screen at the event, the entire stadium booed loudly. The negative reaction to Vance stood in contrast to the enthusiastic cheers for the US Olympic team that arrived earlier in the parade. Some American viewers noted that the US broadcasters, including NBC's Olympic coverage, appeared to minimize or even omit the audio of the audible boos in their domestic broadcast leading to debate about what was shown at home versus what was aired internationally and what was seen on social media. Although Trump wasn't in attendance, he didn't miss the opportunity to insult American athletes by calling Olympic freestyle skier Hunter Hess a real loser in a post to Truth Social. Trump has called Hess a loser because Hess expressed mixed emotions about representing the United States at the Olympics while there is such political strife taking place in America. Oh, Dad disappeared. Mom? Why do you think an entire stadium of international Olympic fans booed J.D. Vance but cheered American athletes? I think they are uh they're booing because of the unrest there uh that ICE is there. But what you guys don't get, ICE is there to defend those athletes, to protect them. That's another reason that ICE does get called out to protect people from the United States and athletes. People in Italy don't get that. So, they're just booing him because of the unrest in the street right now, too, that they're seeing. Mhm. So, what do you think they're >> true Americans over there, they're not standing up for those athletes that are saying uh bad things against USA. >> the entire world hates our government. But I thought it was I mean, it was obviously positive because they cheered on our athletes. So, they the distinction has been made. They understand that, you know, it's not us, it's them. They [ __ ] hate J.D. Vance. Yeah, do you understand that, Mom? The boos were not for America. They were for the administration. They were for J.D. Vance and Trump. I didn't see it that way. I saw it because of all the unrest in the street with the ICE agents that are there protecting people. They don't like that. What do you think they're American ICE agents? Yes, there are. What do you mean? It There aren't American ICE agents over there. No, the ICE agents are protecting our athletes that are over there. What? Are they? I don't Yes. ICE agents are reportedly present at the games at the Olympics this year providing security for the United States delegation that is there. Now, that is strictly >> From who? My Yeah. From who? There's been Olympics where where terrorists have have killed athletes over there, Haley. So, let me ask you this. Do you think it's the job of ICE and DHS to protect like what border is ICE protecting in They're protecting them from terrorists So, they're bodyguards now? Locked in in Italy. They're athlete bodyguards? Italy is full of terrorists, foreign terrorists. Dad, I I asked Mom this a minute ago, but I'm curious what you think about it. Why do you think an entire stadium of international Olympics fans booed J.D. Vance, but then cheered American athletes? Because they think that they're on the right side of the fence because they haven't been hit yet. Italy's nothing but a damn left-wing entire country. I do think they probably were booing >> is nothing but a bunch of moderate liberals. They were probably booing some of the US um like administration policies that they don't like. That's fine. So, they were booing Vance. That's fine. But, they were also I read they were booing booing that the ICE was there to defend our athletes. They didn't like that. >> why the Italians are booing J.D. Vance, that's the most irrelevant [ __ ] question I've ever been asked. It's not though because it gets to the idea of how are we perceived by the rest of the world. >> [ __ ] matter. You don't think how our country is perceived by the rest of the world matters? >> to change the voting in the United States because a bunch of left-wing [ __ ] liberals in Italy booed the guy. They Nobody here gives a [ __ ] what the Italians think. What it gets at is how we are perceived by other countries. In In this case, it's Italy, who is technically one of our allies. Who Who knows if that's still true. Okay. >> Italy has never been our ally. Hell, they were against us in the World War II. Just like we were never part of the >> Now you're admitting that. Now you're admitting that we fought Italy in World War I. I remember when we were talking about fascism, you didn't think Mussolini was a fascist. No, I didn't say that. Oh my god. >> [laughter] >> Go look it up. Didn't you also say we were never part of the UN but we were founders? >> Yeah. We're not part of the UN. Hell, we are the UN. Despite the controversy, the US Department of Homeland Security maintained that this deployment to the Olympics was to ensure the safety of Americans athletes with agents solely working out of the US Consulate and within the joint security teams that were there. They were there to protect our athletes. It makes even more sense then that they were booing JD Vance because now the United States is dragging their [ __ ] [ __ ] to another country and they don't want it there. >> That's their They can They can boo him all they want. There's other presidents have been booed before at other events. I don't know if at the Olympics >> at multiple football games and things like that. >> you mean. Or the Obamas >> Let me ask you this, Mom. Let me The Obamas have not been booed. Ever. >> Mom, let me ask you this. >> god, where is that? I've got it. >> Hang on, Mom. Let me ask you this. I have this question. Mom, hello. Are you there? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you think the American president should ever call an American Olympian a loser? Yes. Not a loser in the fact that they're there on our team. >> a loser. On our team. But if that athlete, if I was I'd kick his ass off the [ __ ] team. He doesn't belong. He's not an American. If I >> to get the [ __ ] off our team. If I had the honor to be on a Olympic team representing the United States, I would never speak out against my government. If they are speaking out against the United States in any way, they should not be on our team. They need to go to the country that they choose to be on and speak of them. So, you're a fascist. No. They should not speak against the country that sent them there, that they are playing on their team for. Or maybe they just want to represent the United States that they believe in as opposed to the one that the government has [ __ ] put upon us. >> that's fine, but don't try out for the United States team. Go find another team. >> freedom of speech. Well, the problem is >> Your answer to everything is if you don't like what the government's doing, move to another country. The United States team is not left wing. So, if you are a left winger and you want to participate on that team, >> No. What you're failing to tell You're stupid as hell because what you fail to realize is it's no longer a left or right issue. We're talking about morality. Here's what I Here's what we're talking about democracy. We're talking about fighting fascism. This isn't a left or right issue anymore. Let me say this. If those athletes really feel that way about the United States, they should have never tried out for the United States team. Let them find a team of a country that they more align with and try out for that team there. >> they'll play for Italy. >> represent that country for the Olympics. >> they have freedom of speech and can say whatever they want. leave this country. Olympics means united. Everybody should be united. >> If they're not on the correct team, The Olympics is about athleticism. You should be able to say whatever you want about whatever you want. Not if you're sponsored and you're there through the United States of the country that you got there with. >> [ __ ] bills? Me. No. Every one of those athletes, no matter >> Those athletes aren't over there on their own. They're getting paid for by the United States of America. >> Donald Trump [ __ ] No matter what country They don't owe Donald Trump. They owe me as a [ __ ] American. It takes a lot of Which obviously you are Americans. It takes a lot >> fascist. You are Americans. So find you another country. >> You call us commies, but the reality is you're a [ __ ] fascist. You believe in a tyrannical reign by a piece of [ __ ] president. You're no more American than You don't know You don't know who's a piece of [ __ ] president. >> So we're not You're not You're not real Americans. No, you don't believe in freedom You don't believe in freedom of speech. That's what >> believe in protesting. You think people should stop protesting because they might get killed. You don't believe in American ideals. You're not [ __ ] real Americans. You're fascist. >> The difference between me and you is I choose to live here. You call me and Chad commies. You're the [ __ ] communist. You're the communist. >> [laughter] >> You're a communist. >> Jesus Christ. You guys are fascist. You don't believe in American ideals. >> I? Am I fascist or communist? Do you know the [ __ ] difference? >> Stop. That's rich. Why do you always bring up We're We're all Americans. That That's what the point of this whole show is. Is that we can have such You are not an American. Okay. The point of the show is that this is what I think our family represents America, the modern America. It is one half or or however many people who voted for Trump who are still in MAGA like you guys believe in these kind of fascist ideals and you think anything outside of that is un-American. I believe what you are is American. You represent a certain portion of the American population who goes along this line, who believes in these ideals. And I think a lot of those are programmed into your brain by media and by this administration specifically to keep you kind of in a haze, not understanding what's going on, facts swirling around and not really getting how they all come together. But we are all Americans still. That's the point of this show. >> now, neither one of you need to come to my funeral. Okay, stop. My God. There won't be There won't be any spot for you. Stop. You'll make sure of that with your ghost? Stop. Stop. Stop. I will be at your funeral, Dad. I'm going to play these clips. I'll be like, "And now in memoriam some of his finest work." You ain't COMING TO MY FUNERAL. You ain't American. Okay. Okay, I won't be there. I'll I'll abide by your wishes. >> I am an American and my God, if I could be at the an athlete at the Olympics, oh my goodness, I would not badmouth our United States at all. I would be the most proud person in the world. >> agree with what the United States is doing right now. But what if you didn't? Then I wouldn't go represent my team. If I was that much butt hurt. That much butt hurt? This guy was asked uh what do you think of what's going on in America? And he was like, "Well, I have mixed emotions." That's what he said, mixed emotions. Mhm. That's enough for for you to be like, "Well, [ __ ] I have mixed emotions. I really shouldn't go to the Olympics this year, the thing I've trained my entire life for." >> But what you're missing is this. Why would I represent the United States even though maybe there's turmoil right now, but he's a proud American and proud to be there. He didn't say any of that. >> missing is that why mom and dad are so butt hurt about it is because of what they've consumed coming from Donald Trump's social media. He called this guy a loser. He put him on the chopping block and so mom and dad are just regurgitating what they [ __ ] seen and heard from Donald Trump. That's all they do. This is cult mentality. You attack everyone who doesn't agree with your dear leader. All right, speaking of dear leader. Nope. Trump has never read the Bible is our next topic. This week at the National Prayer Breakfast in DC. Now we're getting somewhere. Trump recounted a story about Pastor Robert Jeffress from his 2016 campaign in which Jeffress said Trump might not be very familiar with the Bible and might never have read it. Trump then repeated this anecdote to the audience and laughed about it saying, I don't want to admit anything. Talking about butt hurt, Jesus. When it was first said implying that indeed he has never read the Bible, Trump has claimed that the Bible is his favorite book on multiple occasions in each of his three presidential campaigns, but now it's revealed he has never read it. Mom, do you care that Trump has never read the Bible? You don't have to be a Christian to read the Bible all the way from start to finish. I've never read the Bible. I am a Christian. You also bought a Trump Bible. We Yeah, Chad gave it to us by the way. Have you read it? Okay. I've been in it. Okay, well, at least you admit you don't read your Christian Bible. Um I'm not Cuz cuz our system is nothing about the Bible. Why do you think Trump lied multiple times about it being his favorite book, but he's never read it? It might still be his favorite book. And he hasn't read it. It's because he's a grifter. He he did it to to gain Just cuz I have my favorite book, that mean that I've read it from back Okay. What is your favorite book, Dad? Dad, what's your favorite book? >> have one. Okay. Mom? >> a billion. How to make a billion? You're in that one? >> in that one. But you've never read it. That would be Yeah, we have read passages where your father's name is. >> where my name is. All right. Now now I'm giving you a layup here. Mom, what's your favorite book? I would say that book, the one that Dad is in. Just for all the viewers at home, I have written and published six books. Yes. None of those are on the list of my favorite books. You You made us read out of one and it was vulgar [laughter] sexual things and I about puked. Okay. Go ahead and go back to that one and you know that was the truth. You made your father read vulgar stuff. >> I finished a new book. It's I'm going to put it out sometime this year, hopefully. Um nothing vulgar in it. It's funny. It's about the future. We'll read it. We'll read Haley's >> And it may be our first book club book. We may all read it. >> If it's not nothing bad and nasty words that you make us read, I would read that. >> Okay. And I'll read Haley's cookbook. Okay, so you don't care that Trump didn't read the Bible. Let me go to our final topic. Bezos ends the Washington >> is over. No, you started late cuz you had to pee immediately when we sat down. Remember? So? Let him finish. God damn it, let him finish. >> Bezos ends the Washington Post this >> running. This week Jeff free Bezos fired hundreds of journalists at his newspaper, The Washington Post, across multiple departments, including sports, books, local reporting, and foreign correspondents. Bezos claimed the layoffs were part of a strategic reset to refocus the newsroom on areas that generate audience interest and are financially sustainable, but most agree Bezos is using his power to control news at The Washington Post to be more favorable to Trump in an attempt to help Trump seize more control over all news in America. Among those laid off were key international correspondents, including foreign desks and reporters stationed in conflict zones. A report says that at least one correspondent based in Ukraine was fired via email, leaving her stranded in a war zone without institutional support or immediate plans for evacuation. Thanks for listening, Dad. Mom, why do you think Jeff Bezos gutted the Washington Post? Well, it's his I mean, he can do, I guess, whatever he wants, but I don't know. He's done with it, and that was it. Cuz now he's going to hire all these Trump cronies, and it's going to be a biased [ __ ] piece every time. I thought it shut down altogether. It's propaganda. They're going to feed us more propaganda that's like super right-wing and all [ __ ] majah. I guess we'll see in the future. They're working on you. >> What Chad just read to me was it's shut down. Well, it's because there are still people that seek out like unbiased journalism. It doesn't It's hard to find, but there are still people that seek that out. You guys like your nice little comfy Newsmax [ __ ] so you don't seek out real information. But that's what journalism should be. Ground News. Yeah, Ground News. Are you using that? >> Chad's going to get me a script, so he says. >> Let me Let me write this down. Let me write this down. Let's write it down quick. You should want You should want the truth. You should want factual information. >> Not No, because because you watch Newsmax. >> know any facts at all. He just jabber, jabber, jabber. You guys watch Newsmax. I'm against Trump. I'm against Trump. I'm against Trump. I have I know you're against Trump. Will you watch Ground News? Will you If Chad gets you guys No, because it's not watching. It's not videos. It's You have to read it, and Dad won't do that. >> something, a different news channel called Republic something, but I forgot the full name. I got to go back on YouTube and find it. This is part of a bigger thing what Bezos is doing. It's Bezos, it's Zuckerberg, it's Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, all these billionaires. All these billionaires are actively trying to take full control of the human population. You see that, right? >> he Let's say if he does it, time will tell. They're doing it now. It's done. Okay. Palantir is a a big piece of this. They're using AI and they're using their vast resources to take control of these media outlets. So, this this is just kind of the latest thing where Bezos has decimated one of the biggest pieces of journalism that we had in this country. It's now going to be full Trump. CBS News is full Trump. Uh Tik Tok is full Trump. I mean, we're on Tik Tok. We post these clips on Tik Tok. I I post two a day minimum. And our views after Ellison took over have been cut down to about a third because we say things that are critical of Trump. They are actively suppressing any speech that is against Trump on that platform, which is a giant platform, hundreds of millions of users. >> And there needs to be another platform. There are other platforms, but these guys who have billions of dollars and control the networks that promote these platforms, obviously Instagram, Facebook, all that, they are picking them off left and right. They are making it harder to have actual conversations about any of this stuff. Do you see that as a problem? Yeah. Yes. It's also going to end like a a lot of people use these social media networks to make money. It's like a full-time job. Yeah. That's going to end people's [ __ ] careers. And all of these billionaires are just [ __ ] raking it in while the little guys are falling to the wayside. My final question is this, Mom, did you see the video this week of an ICE officer kicking a puppy? No, I did not. I'll show it to you on Wednesday and I'll see what you think. I'll be there. Please join us Wednesday for that. We're going to have our midweek episode. That wraps up today's episode, I suppose. Haley, I love you. Thank you for being here. Mom, I love you. Thank you for being here. Dad, despite the fact you don't want me at your funeral, I do love you, but I will abide by that wish if it indeed is real. It's real. Stop it. I just I want to say thank you to everybody that stood in line. I had people standing in line for over 2 hours to come to our bakery this weekend. And we it was honestly unreal. So I just want to say thanks to everybody. Thank you for your patience. We only had one guy that was super pissed cuz the Seahawks cookies sold out before he could get one. [laughter] I'm sorry. But everybody was really gracious and it was overwhelming but like in the best way. So thank you guys very much for showing up and supporting. Mom, I love you. Chat, I love you. And Dad, I will be at your funeral. No, you won't. Against your wishes. >> Yeah, you ain't going to be able to stop us. We're going to be front row. I'll check to see. >> Haley, I'll probably sing a song. We're going to be front row. We're in Obama t-shirts. I love everybody, of course. Of course. I will also be doing tonight a live show at 6:00 p.m. PST. If any of you want to join me. Haley will join me. Mom. >> Yeah. Maybe I will say it. I don't know. Just do it. At least get on for like a little bit. Also, we forgot to say this is it and then we're stopping. Prayers for Savannah Guthrie's mother. It's just terrible what's happening. We have no idea. Nobody has any idea. Stop it. >> Yeah, just don't don't let's not talk about it. Just prayers for and hope they find her. Hope they find her soon. >> [music] >> It's bad. Yeah. Okay, bye. >> everybody for joining us. We will see you tonight for the live and Wednesday for our midweek [music] episode.