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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. It's Easter Sunday. Who Who's dragging their mic around? >> It's me. I'm sorry. >> Okay, stop. >> Don't touch ours. Jesus. >> With me is my mom and dad. My mom and her best Trump hat and my sister Haley. My sister and I are both of course lefties. Dirty dirty communist lefties per my father's claims. And my mom and dad who are deep in the QAnon MAGA cult. Whatever happened to QAnon? >> I think it's still it's still there. >> Okay. Today we have a wide variety of topics. We are going to be talking about Pam Bondi getting fired. We're going to be talking about the two aircraft shot down over Iran after Trump said we have total air superiority. We're going to be talking about Hegsth firing all the military leaders in the middle of a war. We're going to be talking about how the bullet may not match the gun in the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're going to be talking about how Donald Trump got his ballroom blocked and how he's killing endangered species for no reason whatsoever. Mom, do you have some diddies to start with? >> Well, yes. I was going to say happy Easter to everyone that does celebrate Easter. And I have a couple show and tells that are very dear to my heart. >> Okay. >> This my mother made this. This is wheat weaving. Um, and in Kansas, a lot of people did this like what back in the 80s when Haley was born and all that. And this was a cross that my mother made and I just love it to pieces and a wheat weaving. Then my second show and tell. This is something I made when I was probably a brownie scout. This cross is made out of matchsticks. And I can still see myself doing this. Like they would light a little box of matches, my troop leader, Mrs. Larson, and then they'd snuff it out. And then all these little matches you glued onto a little cardboard piece. And I've kept this. In fact, is there ML is on there? MLP. That was me. I thought there was a date, but it was when I was a little girl. >> So, for Easter, those are kind of cool memories. And then one other memory that I really liked, um, I had a baby girl that was born April 11th, 1981, and she was born, I think it was seven days before Easter that year, because Easter falls on different days, >> you know, of the month. And I had an Easter little bunny uh born and it was Haley and I put little Easter ears on her and you and I should have grabbed that picture but I still can later maybe for maybe tonight. Uh and made her little Easter ears as she was a little baby girl. >> All right. Well, speaking of Easter ears, you also sent me another picture. Yes. >> Of one of your other children wearing Easter ears. Let's take a look now. our current son. And he became famous because that picture was in our local uh news station, Channel 4, and he was on the news. Was it last Friday? Good Friday. >> For those just listening, we are looking at a picture of Shiny the horse wearing Easter ears. [laughter] >> All right. >> Yes. >> Um, is that it? Those are all your diddies. It was happy Easter and I hope everybody's Easter holiday this weekend is is like a good one and I >> church. >> No, I wa watched >> good Christians. [laughter] >> Are you going to watch the passion of the Christ? >> I watched Pope Leo the 14th's mass part of it. I also watched him on Good Friday, the carrying of the cross. There's nothing wrong with watching mass online by the way. and my friend in Kansas sent me links to watch her Kansas uh masses that she always watches too. So that whole minute of laughing and giggling about us believing in God >> maybe five seconds >> on Easter. >> Yeah. Well, we'll get to what people are saying on Easter. >> Before we do though, we have a question from a listener. If you would like to submit a question, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary conversation podgmail.com. Are you ready for today's question? >> Yeah. >> Here we go. >> Hi all. Uh, love the podcast, but I have a question for Haley. Would you possibly consider going into politics? I think you would be an amazing advocate to get your country back to what real values of America um and what we think that they should be. And the other question is for Marylu and Bob. Would you vote for Haley if she were to go into politics? Thank you. >> Okay, I saw mom and dad struggling to hear that. The question is, it was a two-part question. One, for Haley, would Haley ever consider going into politics? And two, mom and dad, would you vote for her if she ran on a an extremely obviously liberal platform? So, the first question to Haley, would you go into politics? >> I will never be a politician. I despise government. I despise politics. Um, I, however, will always be an advocate. I will always protest and and do my due diligence. Uh but no, I don't want to be a politician. >> Hang on a minute. Let's just paint this theoretical scenario. AOC comes into your bakery. Oh my god, this is amazing. You guys become best friends and she and you become like a Joe the plumber or what was that? Do you remember that guy? Joe the I think it was Joe the plumber and I forget. >> It was it was plumber. >> Yeah. You become a a figure like that. You rise to fame and prominence immediately. And she's like, I want you to be my vice presidential running mate. You wouldn't do it. [snorts] >> No, I I don't have any interest in being in >> Okay. >> in government. >> Okay. >> No. >> Mom and dad, then the second part of the question is, if Haley was running, let's say for president, would you vote for her? >> No way in hell, >> mom. >> Wow. It would depend on what her stances are. >> You know what my stances are? >> Yeah, you you've listened to him for four years on this podcast. >> I know. But she could change just because she's running. People do change. I would have to say what she was running on before I would know what to vote. >> Assuming she's running on all the things you've heard her say in this podcast. >> I would vote for her as my daughter, but not as a politician. >> Are you voting for me or JD Vance? JD Vance, >> you you >> I get the vote >> from all >> if you if uh if I read what you were uh standing for was right. >> Yes. >> Are you out of your mind? >> Jesus. >> She's our daughter. >> Yeah. And she'd be a crappy politician. >> Okay. I think I think better than being politicians, I think Chad, you and dad should be uh >> pastors and start a church. >> Wow. >> All right, let's move on to our first topic. >> He is risen. >> Air superiority. On Wednesday, Trump delivered a rambling 19minute speech to the world in which he declared Iran had quote no anti-aircraft equipment and that quote their radar is 100% annihilated and that the US was quote unstoppable. Pete Hegsth had similarly claimed weeks earlier that the US had achieved quote complete control of Iranian skies. Less than 48 hours later, Iran blew a US F-15 Strike Eagle out of the sky and they also shot down an A-10 Thunderbolt. Two Blackhawk helicopters assisting the rescue mission for the missing pilots were also hit by Iranian fire, bringing the total number of US aircraft hit by the anti-aircraft equipment Trump claimed didn't exist to four. Both F-15 crew members have now been rescued, but one had to flee for his life and hide until US forces could find him. Trump told NBC News that the downed Americans would not affect negotiations with Iran. But then Trump tweeted this. Mom, I'd like you to read this out loud. >> If I can see it. [snorts] Tuesday will be power plant day. Dad was just reading this to me earlier on Newsmax and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the [ __ ] straight, you crazy bastards, or you will be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah, President Donald J. Trump. >> So, >> so you're sitting there ragging on a few wild missiles they have left. That's all they got. They got lucky. >> Okay. My first question is, why do you think Trump lied about Iran having quote no anti-aircraft equipment? >> Well, they don't. Dad just stated that. >> I just told you they're out of everything and they just got lucky. >> Well, clearly they're not out of everything because they shot >> Yeah, >> they shot four aircraft. >> So >> Trump said they don't have any anti-aircraft capabilities. They shot four of them out of the sky. >> So what? They don't have any equipment left. >> But on Wednesday, he said they don't have the equipment. Then Thursday and Friday they shot planes out of the sky. >> Yeah. Everybody's got this rogue missile laying around somewhere. >> What? I I think >> Okay, so Trump lied then. >> They don't have No, they don't have any sophisticated equipment that's that can be formidable against our air force. >> I think they said it was like a scattered type missile or something. >> It's shot down four airplanes. How many you think we fly every day? 150 to 200. >> So you're okay with >> equipment, Chad. You're so full of [ __ ] >> No, he's full of [ __ ] That's the point I'm making. He said they don't have anti-aircraft capabilities. They shot four of them. >> You wait until [ __ ] Tuesday and then open your pie hole again. >> What's going to happen Tuesday? >> You'll see. >> He is going to If they don't open, >> he's going to blow the [ __ ] planet up. If they don't plan, >> he's gonna blow up the planet. >> He's gonna blow up Iran. >> Okay. >> Why Why are we not talking about how those people were rescued? One of the greatest rescue that will go down in history. That was unbelievable. >> If it wasn't for Trump, it wouldn't happen. >> I kept that ain't no [ __ ] >> The [laughter] first night I prayed I really really prayed that that pilot would be found because we know what would happen. Well, it wasn't the pilot. the pilot was found. It was the weapons systems officer, the WSO. That was the guy that was still down in the mountain. And we know what would have happened to him if he would have been found. There was a bounty on his head for over $60,000. >> Uh some of the Iranian people did hide him, >> but then from that point forward for our guys to go in to get him, >> I can't even um state all the things that went into it. It was incredible. It was incredible. They got him out. Uh there were two of our uh combat planes that were down that there's no way they were going to fly them out. After everybody was out safe, they had to blow those up. >> It was It just gives me goosebumps to think that our military is that strong that can do that to get our guys out. >> But they were in that predicament because of Donald Trump. And they were not rescued by Donald Trump. They were rescued by their own people. >> They were rescued by our military, the United States military. >> Correct. Not Donald Trump. They are in this predicament because of him. He had nothing to do with this with their rescue mission. >> Oh my gosh. >> You think Donald Trump had a hand in that? >> I want to hear your big mouth Tuesday. >> He has he is the head of our military. >> I want to hear from both of you. >> No on Tuesday. Pete Hegsth and he's firing all military personnel that know what they're doing. >> Piles of [ __ ] that have been standing on their thumb their ass for >> Can you imagine? Like do you think if this happens again under Pete Hegathth if somebody goes down that they're going to get him back? Cuz I don't >> I don't >> He's literally firing everyone that had any [ __ ] brain whatsoever in the military. >> All right, get rid of all >> We'll get to that. We'll get to that. >> [ __ ] all those soldiers right now. Mom, let me ask you this. Why do you believe Trump praised Allah on Easter Sunday? >> He's being sarcastic, >> right? Because he's a piece of [ __ ] >> If they don't open that straight, >> he's going to bomb everything over there. >> So, mom and can't drive anywhere. >> If they would have had our military guy and paraded him around, he would have done it immediately, too. So, it was going to happen anyway. So >> I am so I had anxiety. I don't know the man. I knew he was part of our military. I was having anxiety. We got to get him out. We got to get him out. And they did. >> So again, question was mom to you. Why did Trump praise Allah on Easter Sunday? >> Like dad said sarcastically. >> Okay. Do you think it is presidential to tweet [ __ ] >> Yes. >> Okay. We've never had a president like him before. >> Correct. >> He is the head of our military >> and they are [ __ ] bastards. >> Okay. So, in your mind, should any president be able to tweet out something like this? >> Sure. >> Mom. >> Yes. >> Okay. So every president now in your mind can issue global statements in a time of war to the country you're attacking cussing at them and sarcastically making fun of their religion. >> Yes, >> he can do anything he can to get the people that were down. >> You don't you don't understand how he operates >> and also what he >> That tweet didn't help them find the guy. The tweet came after they found the guy. >> Well, he did tweet. >> Yeah. Now he's going to blow their [ __ ] ass all to hell. >> He did tweet when the guy was on the ground and we hadn't got him yet. He didn't >> Let's Let's hear what you got to say Wednesday night after Tuesday's over. >> Would you be okay if Obama would have tweeted that? >> Sure. >> He had been in hiding for hours and what Trump did was um I don't know if the word is disguised, but he said he's been found. Obama sent out more racist [ __ ] than any president ever we had. >> Can you name one one tweet from Obama that would fit this qualification? Dad, >> what? That he's racist? >> You said that he tweeted way worse than what Trump tweeted. >> Oh, yeah. I I >> Can you give me one of those tweets? >> Mom will look them up. >> Oh, >> again. What Trump did, the [laughter] guy had not our military. >> There's so damn many to pick from. It'll be easy to find them. Oh, okay. >> I would like to get this out. Um, our military man had not been rescued yet. It had been 48 hours. And what Trump said is he's been found. >> Well, let me ask you this. Why did you pick Obama? >> Can I finish? >> Cuz you know he's a racist. >> So then, >> no, I don't think Obama is a racist. >> Oh, yes, he is. >> No, he's not. >> Mom, please go ahead. Finish your thing. >> So, what Trump said is he had been found when he really had not been found. And that was countering those Iranian people. Hey, he's been found, so don't look for him anymore. Trump is smart. He's smart in war and he was smart to and he helped save that man's life. He surely did. >> So, what do you think is the difference between Trump >> saving this guy, as you put it, and in 2015 when he said to John McCain that he didn't like pilots who were shot down? >> Nothing. He said something along the lines of like, "You you're a terrible [ __ ] soldier. You get captured as a prisoner of war." >> He always thought he was a traitor. >> He's a [ __ ] rhino. >> He always thought he was a traitor. >> He's a traitor. And I I've said it before. I'm sorry. >> On this very podcast that John McCain was nothing but a rhino and a traitor. >> John McCain fought for our country and Donald Trump [ __ ] got bumped. that his daddy was a [ __ ] admiral and they put him in a goddamn F-15 or >> he was a prisoner of [ __ ] war. >> Yeah. And he got he got he's one of about 10 guys who got shot down. >> This is like this is the proof. >> Thousands of missions. >> This is proof. >> Thousands of missions where that loser got hit. >> You are indoctrinated by a cult. This is like 100% proof because >> if Donald Trump didn't exist, >> John McCain is a giant [ __ ] turd. If Donald Trump didn't exist, your tune would be very different. You would hail John McCain as a hero as an admirable war vet. And because Donald Trump threw him under the bus and talk mad [ __ ] about him, you are also >> I I talk mad [ __ ] about John McCain long before Trump did. >> Do you think John McCain was a rhino? >> I always thought I always thought that guy was a big [ __ ] loser, man. >> Did you think John McCain was a rhino while he was being tortured? >> Yes. Okay. >> May I read something? >> Sure. >> The US flew five transport aircraft into >> We don't know that >> the US flew five transport aircrafts into Iran for one rescue. Lost two, blew them up, fought a ground battle, pulled everyone out. This was not a rescue mission. It was a fullscale special operation that went sideways and still succeeded. a senior US military official just called this is one of the most complex special operation missions in the history of the United States and that's what we just saw the last 48 hours >> who said that >> this was said by maybe Donald Trump >> Smoky Joe >> yeah Donald Trump >> I watched a little bit of Smoky Joe yesterday okay let's move on our next topic is Pam Pam Bondi. This week, Trump fired Pam Bondi because he was reportedly frustrated with her on multiple fronts, including her handling of the Epstein files and her failure to successfully prosecute his political enemies like uh James Comey and Leticia James, whose cases were tossed out by a judge. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch is now serving as acting AG with EPA Chief Lee Zeldon, reportedly the front runner to replace Bondie permanently. Blanch told Fox News that the Epstein files quote should not be a part of anything going forward, claiming the DOJ has released everything required. The firing does not relieve Bondi of her obligation to comply with a subpoena from Congress that requires her to appear on April 14th before the House Oversight Committee to answer for the mismanagement of the Epstein investigation. Dad, why do you think Pam Bondi was fired? >> Because she didn't get her job done. >> What was that job? to put those guys behind bars. >> What guys? >> The ones in the Epstein files. >> Yeah. In the Epstein files. >> James Comey. >> All those [ __ ] >> James Comey is not in the Epstein files. >> Well, I know, but I'm saying in addition, >> in addition to the Epstein files, there's there's all kinds of people that she should have indicted and put in jail. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> She didn't do jack [ __ ] >> She was too soft. She was way too soft on a lot of those other people we were talking about files should have been either hung or put in prison for life. >> You can go back in some of our earlier podcasts and I told both of you if that guy that does our back talks can go find it several times. I said if she doesn't do her job, Trump will get rid of her and let her go. And that's exactly what he did. I do think he went in and just probably sat down with her and said, "Hey, this isn't working. You're not opening the files fast enough. You're not doing the things you're supposed to do." And then gave her a position somewhere else. >> Okay. So, you guys are both on board with her firing. And you're saying primarily because she didn't handle the Epstein files, correct? She didn't release them all, right? >> Not Not just the Epstein files. >> You also persecuting or prosecuting his political enemies. I get that. Right. Right. Um, but the Epstein files are a chunk of it. That for you is significant. >> I would say it's half >> or less. So that's that's significant. >> Now Todd Blanch, who is the acting attorney general, >> has said no more files are getting released and the Epstein case is closed. >> You want to bet? >> I don't think >> you want to bet he's full of [ __ ] and he'll release more files. >> And if he doesn't, >> you want to bet? Let's make a bet on that. Write it down. >> I don't I don't Listen, you're you're not hearing what I'm saying. You have claimed that part of the reason Pam Bondi was fired and you support this is that she didn't release all the Epstein files. >> Yes. >> Right. That's part of the reason. >> The next guy, the very next guy in that slot said, "I'm never releasing any get his [ __ ] ass fired if he doesn't do it." >> Okay. Why do you think that Todd Blanch would be lying about this? because he he can do whatever he wants now. And the only the only repercussion he's going to have is he's going to get fired from a [ __ ] job he can't do anyway. >> He's just another He's just another Donald Trump crony who will do whatever he says. He literally said, >> Yes, he is. He literally said it's not a crime to party with Ebstein. >> He said that it's not a crime to party with Este. >> It's not. He's also the attorney who went to interview Golane Maxwell to get her to basically exonerate Trump >> and then she was immediately moved to the posh prison where she now resides. >> He's not going to stay. He's only in trying to find the other name. There's another name that >> Lee Zelden. >> So >> I just read it to you. >> Oh yeah. >> Do you listen to anything I'm saying? >> Well, I hope that Pam Bonnie does get subpoenaed. I hope that happens. And because she has nothing left to lose, she just [ __ ] unloads. That's my hope. >> She is subpoenaed and she must appear before the House Oversight Committee on the 14th. >> Right. >> Mom, do you think that she will still have loyalty to Trump now that he's fired her in a very public way? >> Of course she will. >> No. No [ __ ] way. >> I think she will too. >> She has no [ __ ] way. >> Of course she will. >> She has no choice. >> Why? >> Well, with Trump or out of politics forever. >> I think dead. I think if she flips on him, he will kill her. >> Uh, you talk about flipping and being dead. Talk about the Clinton drowned, the all the people Clinton supposedly whack. That's funny. >> God, I hope she just [ __ ] lets it out. >> Me, too. >> I hope she says all of it and then some. >> Okay. >> I don't think she will, though, because I think she's still like all of the people in that upper echelon. I think they all have just a web of blackmail and all kinds of dirty [ __ ] on each other. She certainly has taken bribes from Trump to drop cases against him when she was the attorney general in Florida. >> Um >> why do you think the incoming person will release the Epstein files when so far the two attorney generals in a row are not? >> He won't. >> This guy who's the the third guy from New York, right? I don't Lee Zeldon is the only one that I have seen the name being thrown around. Who currently is the EPA? >> Yeah, that's him. Leeld. >> But he's talking about this monkey that's coming in for the interim. >> Oh, >> I'm saying both attorney generals in a row have not released the full Epstein files despite the fact that it's law to do so. They are both right now breaking the law. >> You know, with Pam Bondi, what I I think she was too soft and everything, but then I've told you this. I think she had friends maybe that Trump didn't even know. >> You know, that were saying, "Don't release them. Don't release them." Maybe Trump didn't even know about that. But she didn't do her job. And go back in these these podcasts. I said if she didn't do her job, she needs to be fired. And >> so you think Trump signs the law, the Epstein Transparency Act that says you have to release all the files by >> I want to say it was like December 20th or something. We're now obviously four or five months past when it was supposed to been released. >> It's like over 100 days, I think. >> Yeah. Um, you know, they're not releasing them. Todd Blanch has said, "We're never even talking about this again. The case is closed." Why do you think this next person is going to release them? And also, let me ask you this question. You really think Trump was like, "Pam Bondi, release these files." And she was like, "Nope." >> Yeah, I do. In a way, I think someone else that Trump didn't know or realize was holding her captive, more or less. >> Okay, >> it's all maybe paying her off. Who knows? But >> why did he wait this long then to fire her? >> If the files were supposed to release be released in December, he's waited four months to fire her. >> I guess kept saying do it or else. Do it or else. How is it possible that you think that is real? >> I totally think that's real. >> So, do you believe Trump has absolute power and authority over the US government or not? >> Yes. And if they don't do their job, he gets rid of people. >> Four months later. >> Yeah. Whenever he decides. >> He's been a little busy. >> It's up to him. It's not up to you. >> If if you haven't noticed busy. >> Yeah. Starting wars. you know, four month time slot and the prior attorney general was a total [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] >> If he wants the Epstein files released so badly and Pam Bondi isn't doing it, then why is he putting somebody like Todd Blanch in front of us who said we are not releasing any more [ __ ] that has to do with >> that guy's going to get fired, too? >> So, he's just putting people in place for firing. >> Yes, >> probably. Why? >> Seems a little unstable. Yeah, >> because they don't do their job. But why would he select somebody >> guy will not do his job? >> Why would he select somebody who is he's said this before. This is not the first time Todd Blanch has said we're never going to release the Epstein files. So he's already said publicly that that's going to be the case. Why would Trump install him as the interim person? >> So why not just choose somebody that would [ __ ] release them? >> Maybe that's the only person he's looking around >> giving him time to find the right person. Mhm. >> What? >> I I just can't like >> Well, you can't. I don't care. >> It's all like smoke and mirrors. It's all a facade. It's a show. It's distraction. This war. Like all of it. Donald Trump does not want to be held accountable for [ __ ] anything. And so he's like, "Here, I'll throw him a bone. I'll fire Pam Bondi." Like, this is all [ __ ] >> I agree. It's pro wrestling. Mom and dad, Trump himself has publicly said, "We need to move on from the Epstein files and stop looking in them." Why would he say that if he actually really wants them all to be released? >> Because he is not in those files. But he does want the other people in there prosecuted. He would not have got rid of Pam Bondi. >> He has said publicly, "It's time to move on." And when people ask him questions, reporters, he insults them and ignores the question. He also doesn't want them released. >> I think as soon as this war is over in about two weeks or even a week, could be a week, they're going to get back to that. They're going to get back to that. >> What if they don't be over next week? >> If in two weeks when your war is over um and he doesn't get back to the Epstein files, what are you going to do about it? >> Is that going to bother you? >> They will get it. They will get back to it. What if he doesn't matter? >> The Epstein files are irrelevant to anything on the planet. >> No, they're not. However, there's like what five or six other countries that are actively under investigation? >> Yes, eight. >> We have >> nine investigations in eight countries >> and nothing is happening. >> We will they're going to get the right person in there to open it up and go. >> Why can't they do it right now? >> Because I we've got a war going on and Pam Bondi was just fired. A lot of people have been fired. They'll get back to it. >> Dad, on um March 8th, you predicted that the war in Iran would be over in four weeks. We are now in the fifth week. >> Yeah. I missed it by a week. >> Missed it by a week. And Tuesday? Yeah. Tuesday. Boom. >> Dad, I also want to bring up this prediction. This is one of your very earliest predictions. This was um back on January 29th, 2023, which I believe is about,00 days ago. You predicted a nuclear weapon would be used in Ukraine within 30 to 40 days. >> Are you wrong? >> They've already used the They've already used the missiles. They just haven't put the warheads on them. >> So then that wouldn't be a nuclear weapon. >> Yes, it would. >> Oh my god. >> It's a nuclear missile that'll carry a nuclear payload. And they're just warming up. letting the world know. Here it comes, [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Why are you guys so pro war? Like, why do you want him to blow up Iran? Why do you want that? >> Because I want Iran to be gone. >> This is a war that started long ago. It needs to be finished. People are evil. They hate America. They hate us. >> And as far as uh the Ukraine war, I'm against the Ukrainians all the way to hell. So, you're pro-China, Russia, Iran? >> No, I'm pro Russia. >> Russia. >> But Russia is helping Iran right now. >> No, they're not. >> Yeah, they're giving them intelligence on where our military >> will be over Tuesday. >> You're also contradicting yourself. You said Iranian people helped hide the downed American soldiers. >> No, mom said, >> but I thought you just said that they hate us. So, maybe that makes sense. Some do, >> right? >> So, shouldn't those people all the Iranians terminate them? >> Shouldn't the people who don't hate us be safe? >> No. >> Do they deserve to be [ __ ] bombed? >> Yes, they should be safe. That's what Trump said in the beginning. Let me come in dies out. >> Well, he's not saying that now. He said you're going to live in hell. And I also want to go back to, you know, the very beginning when they bombed a [ __ ] school full of children. >> Yeah. >> Are you sure that was still proven? >> Yes. It's been proven a million times. It was our missile. >> You cannot reconcile. >> I'm talking to mom. I know you don't care, but it is difficult to reconcile all of this killing kids in a [ __ ] school. You told me yourself that they're hiding the American soldier, but then you tell me we need to be done with these people. They hate us. >> Make that [ __ ] make sense. >> Most of them do hate us. >> No, they don't. >> America. No, they don't. >> Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. >> So, oh my gosh. Let's see. They held how many captive for 444 days? I would say our people around. >> If I may, if I may. >> Yes. I believe most people in the world, I'm talking about in other countries outside the United States, don't give a [ __ ] about the United States or think about us in any meaningful way at all. >> I agree. And that's why we got to exterminate the [ __ ] >> What else, Chad? >> You're saying kill everyone who doesn't think about the United States. >> Kill everyone who thinks the United States is an evil place to be. And and it has us down as Satan. and that they want to exterminate us. >> What I'm trying >> I say let's kill those [ __ ] first. >> What I'm trying to explain to you is most people are just going about >> saying to me you're communist. >> Most people are going about their lives on this rock floating through space a million miles an hour to nowhere just trying to put food on the table or do whatever their life is about. Spend time with their family, raise their family, do whatever job they have. They're just trying to get by. That is the the kind of base state of almost all human beings. >> What do you think the Somalians are doing in the United States? You are blind and stupid. >> Most people aren't thinking, "Oh my god, the United States an evil empire. We need to destroy it." Most people are not. They are never thinking that. So this idea that has been put in your head that everybody in Iran is like bloodthirsty and wants to kill America. It's just not >> matter. You can't segregate who's who. So you kill all of them >> then we should then then our entire country should be bombed according to your logic. >> Yeah. Bring it on. Let's see what you got. >> Okay. Let's move on to our Let's do one more topic then the simmer down. The next topic is Pete Hegsth fires the military leaders. This week Pete Hegsth >> that's about [ __ ] time. This week, Pete Hgsth thought the best course of action to help American soldiers during wartime was to fire Army Chief of Staff, General Randy George, and the Army's most senior general along with General David Hodney, head of Army Transformation and Training Command, and Major General William Green Jr., the chief of chaplain. Hegs reportedly made the decision because he wanted someone who will follow his and Trump's orders without question. The New York Times reported tension stem from Hegsth's racist and misogynistic decision to block promotions of four officers, two black and two women from a list of 29. Mom, do you think it's smart to fire four high-ranking military officials while we are at war? >> If they're not doing their job, >> they are doing their job. They're just not falling in line with their [ __ ] >> So, you know more than he does. >> He said it out loud. We fired them because they won't do what we were telling them to do. So they're not doing their job to save other people's lives. >> They actually work for Hey, all those army guys. They work for [screaming] Pete Heg. >> That's what it's like talking to you. >> Smart guy. Hey. >> Okay. >> Hey, >> I can do it, too. Smart guy. >> We need the therapists back. I do. >> You think Pete Hegsth and Donald Trump know more about fighting a [ __ ] war than wartime generals? >> Yes. Okay. >> Where do you think they got their information? Where do you think Donald Trump learned more than a career army general? >> From Hegsth. >> And where do you think Hegsth learned it? >> He was in the [ __ ] army, you dumb [ __ ] >> I think he gets it from Raising Kane. >> Okay. >> Raising Kane. >> This is extremely dangerous for all people involved. Yeah, >> anyone that is in Iran right now is [ __ ] because you got Pete Heg Seth >> and it's about time they got >> But it also it also kind of I guess in a positive way. >> These [ __ ] people you're trying to defend in Iran sat on their [ __ ] thumb for 40 [ __ ] years. We've given them plenty of time to get straight. Now it's time to exterminate the [ __ ] So, it's kind of encouraging because it's telling me that the military is full stop. [ __ ] you. We're not going to do what you tell us to do. That's encouraging >> because I I would like to know that that our military isn't going to pieces of [ __ ] that have been running our government. >> The Department of War >> defense is done and now he says going to take it over and people are going to get killed. >> Okay. Let me ask you this, Mom. Do you think Hegsth could be fired? >> No. >> You don't think if another plane gets shot down and we don't recover the pilots and they're using them as hostages or they kill them publicly, you don't think he Seth is going to get fired? >> No. No. >> I think he's doing great job. >> In what way is the job great that he's doing? >> Leading our country in wartime, >> right? But we just had a bunch of pilots shot down. We had to go in >> retrieved and retrieve >> a great cost. You guys didn't even mention the the cost of that. >> Oh, the cost. Woo. >> What was the cost >> compared to what Obama dumped 147 [ __ ] billion dollar in cash on the Ayatollah's front doorstep. So don't give me any waste of$2 billion dollars for blowing up a couple of airplanes. You can stick that straight up your ass. >> All right. The cost of one United States uh military life is priceless. I don't give a [ __ ] if it cost a trillion dollars. >> I agree. And imagine if we weren't at war. They'd all be safe. >> Are on the ground. We got to get them in. >> Well, now you just contradict yourself. We're at war. Who we at war with? >> Iran. >> All right. So, we're at war with Iran. All Iranians are our enemies. Are you Do you even get that? You stupid [ __ ] Do you even get that? That's not how it is. You stupid [ __ ] >> If that was >> Oh, that's how it is. >> Okay. Hey, happy Easter. >> Hey, if that was you on the ground or Haley on the ground, >> yeah, >> I would be prepared to give a hundred trillion dollars of American money to get you back out. And that's what everybody should think as an American. >> Yeah, I agree. I'm not saying, >> but you brought that up. >> 90% of this war is because of Barack Obama. >> No, it's 100% Donald Trump. >> No, it's not. >> How is Barack Obama at fault for >> He gave these [ __ ] $147 billion to create wars even remotely [ __ ] place. >> Hang on. In cash. It's in cash on a hang. >> What did Trump just ask for? like it's it's in the trillions, isn't it? Now, [snorts] >> okay, >> like I said, it doesn't matter when you're in war. >> It is a severe misrepresentation of the facts. The actual cash payment made by the Obama administration was 1.7 billion, which was part of a settlement for a failed 1970s arms deal, not a direct payment. >> Oh. Oh. >> Oh. >> So, there you go. We owed them the money. >> No, we didn't. >> No, we didn't. >> Yes, we did. No, we didn't. >> Okay. Well, I mean, I can only read you the actual information here. >> Are you too stupid to [ __ ] understand that? >> Oh, Barack Obama was nothing but a goddamn >> These are pile of [ __ ] Anyway, >> these were Iranian funds that we held that were part of this settlement that was a 1979 arms deal. >> You should have kept holding them. And I saw something online, I don't know, I'm sure if it's true or not, something about Obama was doing something right now behind our United States back to help with that straight like allowing them to stop it or something. I don't even know if that's true, though. >> Yeah. So, I'm not I shouldn't even said it, >> but I did read something about that. [laughter] And then do you have any thoughts on Trump authorizing a temporary 30-day waiver that allowed them to sell 140 million barrels of oil? Is that not basically giving them money while we're at war with them? >> It's teasing them. >> No. >> In what way? >> If you play my game, you might get out of this with your ass intact. If you don't play my game, you're gonna die. >> The Clintons uh did the two I just looked it up, the 2015 deal which restricted Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanction relief, >> but they also did stuff with with uranium to Iran, gave it to them, all kinds of stuff. >> Hang on. So, you're mad that Obama gave them $1.7 billion dollars, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. Trump letting them sell their oil made them >> $240 million. >> Nope. 15 billion. >> Oh my god. >> So quite a bit more than what you're claiming Obama gave >> now. We're going to get it all back Tuesday. >> Yeah. >> But why are you mad that Obama gave them 1.7 billion, but you don't care that Trump gave them 15 billion? >> Country. He's a communist and hates our country. >> Okay. >> He's nothing but bad [ __ ] news. All right, let's simmer down. We've gotten heated up. This week, Artemis 2 launched, marking the first time humans have traveled beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. It's a 10-day mission to fly around the moon while they test various functions and tech of the spaceship in preparation for other missions. You guys okay over there? >> Yeah, I'm I'm listening. >> Dad, what do you think about space travel? I don't really care about it. >> Cool. Mom, >> I like it. They had to fix their toilet. I've been watching it. Uh they had to Well, >> they boomerang. They're boomeranging, aren't they? Right now, around the moon to get >> Yeah, they're going across the dark side of the moon. Do you think >> they're boomeranging? >> What do you think they'll see? >> Well, I asked dad yesterday. I said, "So, are they landing on the moon?" Oh my god. He yelled at me so much. She's I told you that. No. How many times? [laughter] I thought they were landing on the moon. They're not. They're boomeranging. I think it's incredible. Would I ever do it? >> [ __ ] No. >> No. No. I saw on TV there was a softball team and they all stopped in Florida. I think it was college softball when they took off and you could see them going up. I saw some airline like reflighted where they were going for the passengers on the wing side to be able to see it go up in the air. >> Yeah, it's history. It's pretty cool. >> Well, [snorts] if I could go back in time, I would become some kind of astronaut or certainly something to do with NASA. I love space. I love the idea that there's an an infinite universe and to be a part of that and experience that and potentially get a first glimpse of what is out there. >> Um, holy [ __ ] So, >> all for it. I love space travel. I wish it was me. >> Would you be scared to do it? >> 100%. But also like >> nobody else gets to do that [ __ ] >> Yeah. I want to see those aliens on the other side of the moon. I know they're there. I know. >> You think they're there? Yeah, >> those pictures they're sending back are incredible. They're beautiful. Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. Well, there you have it. Dad doesn't care. He's looking out the window or staring at a Dr. Pepper can off screen or just having a real hard time engaging with >> your family on Easter Sunday. >> Just look at the screen. Then Chad won't yell at you. >> I'm not yelling. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in that little cranium up there. He kind of gave like a little he was kind of >> I didn't care about the space. >> So while you were yakking about it, I had other things. >> I don't care about space. >> And then he did like a thing where he kind of he mogged on camera. He said >> he did a weekend at Bernie's face. [laughter] >> Okay. Uh let's move on. The bullet may not match the gun. This week, defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old charged with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, filed a motion revealing that an ATF analysis was quote, "unable to identify the bullet recovered at the autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson." The bullet jacket fragment uh recovered during Kirk's autopsy was reportedly too damaged for a conclusive comparison with the hunting rifle tied to Robinson. Experts pushed back, saying a damaged bullet fragment is not uncommon and does not rule out that the weapon was Robinson's rifle. If the fragment had shown clear differences in rifle characteristics, it would have been an immediate elimination rather than inconclusive. The FBI is conducting its own second comparative bullet analysis, which is not yet complete. Dad, do you think Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk? >> Probably not. >> Who do you think killed him? >> Don't have any idea. Do you think it was somebody else there that day that had another rifle that shot him? >> Yeah. >> You think there were two shooters? >> I think there was one shooter. >> But what? You don't think it was Tyler Robinson, though? >> That's right. >> So, why do you think they arrested him? >> So, they had somebody to hold >> the >> otherwise they'd have looked stupid. >> Who's they? Whoever whoever did the damage, >> the IIA >> could be one of a hundred different things. >> Okay. But you don't think it was Tyler Robinson. So you think there is some kind of a government cover up happening? >> Yeah. Not necessarily our government. >> What government then? >> He's coming to my side. >> There's one of a hundred. That could be it. >> He's coming to my side. >> Could be a Somalian. >> Oh gosh. >> Okay. >> Oh gosh. I [snorts] think it was the I think it was a microphone explosion thing. I'm I'm reading more about that. I think maybe it was that. [snorts] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's the Padi. If they can't prove that it matches, he's off. >> He'll live his life. >> He will not live his life. He's dead. >> He's not escaping this. >> Whoever is by whoever's orchestrating this, I agree. I don't think Tyler Robinson killed him. I don't know what is going on. this this news coming out is like they're being very careful in the reporting that's like look the bullet may not match but it might we can't be conclusive >> but the the fact that it's not an immediate match is like that is concerning I think >> well this could be like going on forever for 50 years like JFK assassination you know >> do you guys watch Candace Owens >> do you ever watch her [ __ ] >> yes >> because like she's posted some pretty compelling evidence that like >> I Tyler Robinson was in a different place. He couldn't possibly have done it. >> I don't know. >> I don't like Candace Owens particularly, but >> this is her biggest kind of like, you know, she dives deep into this [ __ ] >> and Charlie was her friend. >> Yeah. >> All right, let's move on. Ballroom blocked. This week, the US a US district judge named Richard Leon ordered a halt to construction of Trump's $400 million White House ballroom, ruling that quote, "No statute comes close to giving the president the authority he claims to have to build it without congressional authorization." Trump called the plaintiff in the case uh the National Trust for Historic Preservation, quote, "A radical left group of lunatics," and immediately appealed. Critics of the ballroom have cited the strange dimensions of the structure as being indicative of a massive fortified bunker complex with the actual entertaining space being secondary to the underground military and security infrastructure all funded by taxpayers even as Trump claims the ballroom portion is privately financed. Mom, what do you think is going to happen to this giant hole in the ground if this judge's order stands that he cannot build it? >> Uh the order will not stand. It now goes before what? Congress. It will be appealed. It goes before Congress. There'll be a new ruling. They're not going to leave a hole in the ground. And I went to God said Debb. So I went >> He's going to build it anyway. He doesn't give a [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> It's not going to stay a hole in the ground. >> We live in a lawless [ __ ] land now where Donald Trump just does whatever he pleases. >> It'll be appealed. >> Dad, you're shaking your head. Yes. Do you like that Donald Trump can break the law? I like that he's going to make a ballroom and it's half done and it will get finished. >> It'll get finished. >> What do you think of these reports that are coming in that the most of the construction that has happened has nothing to do with the ballroom? It's building this giant bunker under it. >> Yeah. >> I have not even read that. >> We need We need a giant bunker at the White House. >> No way. You didn't read that on [ __ ] Smokey Joe's Cafe. Yeah, they're not telling you that. >> Oh, happy. >> Yeah, he's terrified. Every [ __ ] country wants him dead. So, he's got to have a little safe room under the White House. >> Every president should have a safe room. Haley Dawn Coulson, >> they have. And they do. >> Okay. >> But he is building out something much more elaborate. >> Okay. Send me the links on that. I'd like to see that. >> He'll probably just start collecting from billionaires like, "All right, you got passage into this room. Boom. Give me your [ __ ] money. And then he's going to stash it away in his personal account cuz he's a piece of [ __ ] rifter. >> Of course. And he's going to be doing all the >> Can't touch it. >> Okay. >> What' you say? >> He can't touch his own money. >> What do you mean he can't touch his own money? >> He can't touch his own money. >> Why? >> Just like I [ __ ] said. I didn't stutter. He cannot touch his [ __ ] money. >> Why? >> It's in a trust and he doesn't control the trust. >> We brought this up before you. I'm sick and tired of trying to educate you about that. >> Do you think the trust pays him though? >> About this? >> Do you think the trust pays him? >> No. >> Hello. >> They can't. >> Why? >> Because it's put in a trust >> where he can't [ __ ] control it. >> Do I have to go >> for the 50th [ __ ] time? >> Where do you get that information from? >> Hey, I'm not going to answer any more [ __ ] about that. gets really upset about this one >> because he's making up weird [ __ ] that makes no sense. And then when we ask even a surface level question about it, he pretends to get pissed so that he can BE LIKE, "FUCK YOU. >> I AIN'T TALKING about it no more. >> A goddamn hole in the ground." Because you're a [ __ ] communist. >> They don't stack [ __ ] that high. >> Hey, happy Easter. Hi. Hi. >> Trump's business is in. >> What are you doing, Mom? Are you looking something up? >> I'm googling this because dad has brought this up before and y'all laugh him off. >> It's not You You have this idea that a trust makes him somehow immune from receiving money. >> He doesn't control the trust. You smart guy. >> Okay, smart guy. Is he a beneficiary of the trust, though? Does he get money from it? >> His business structure. He did put all his businesses into a trust. Before taking office, he moved his companies into a trust controlled by his family. His sons, especially Donald Jr. and Eric, have been running the Trump Organization from day to day, from day one. It's not a blind trust. Um, he has retained some level of control or influence, but not a lot. Still owns assets. Has to wait till after he's a pre president to separate from there. Blah blah blah. So, is his business a trust? Yes, all his businesses. >> But that doesn't mean he doesn't get paid. A trust just means that the money is kept in this other kind of entity. >> You're gonna explain trust to me. >> Okay. >> I mean, I need to apparently >> explain a trust to me. >> You explain it to me then. How about that? Explain a trust to me. >> He can't. Those are his business. >> I've been I've been telling you about it for [ __ ] four months and you won't listen. I'm listening. Explain it to me. have to say [ __ ] to you. You're a communist. >> Done being president. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Let's move on to our final topic. >> Trump killing endangered species. This week, a group of six Trump loyalist appointees >> animals. Animals. This week, a group of six Trump loyalist appointees on the Endangered Species Committee met for the first time in 34 years and voted unanimously to remove all Endangered Species Act protections for oil and gas activities in the Gulf of Mexico. Hegth claimed that protecting the animals >> America >> Hegathth claimed that protecting the animals was detrimental to national security during wartime. The decision leaves numerous Gulf species vulnerable to extinction, including the critically endangered Rice's whale, of which only about 51 remain on Earth. along with sea turtles, fish, corals, and birds. Environmental groups said there are actually no oil and gas projects in the Gulf currently being held up by the Endangered Species Act, calling the National Security Justification completely manufactured. Multiple environmental groups, including Earth Justice, Sierra Club, and Friends of Earth immediately issued lawsuits. Mom, do you support Trump killing endangered animals? >> I don't support anyone that kills animals at all >> except Donald Trump. No, I don't support that. >> Wait a minute. So, are you saying you no longer support Donald Trump? >> I support Donald Trump. I don't support that particular thing that he's trying to do. >> Okay. >> That's crazy. You >> One more to the list. >> You support him killing people in Iran, but not animals in the ocean. >> Well, animals are worth more than the people in Iran. >> I don't like animal killers. But Trump now is killing all of these animals in the Gulf. >> Yeah, I like him. >> All the wild horses. Remember we did an episode where we talked about that? >> I read about that. >> How he's going to slaughter wild horses. >> He's also like >> slaughtering them. There is >> he's culling them. Yes, they're murdering them. >> Mustangs have been held in captivity and holding tanks for the last so many years or they're put on private land. There's one of the biggest lands here in Oklahoma where the government pays them to keep horses. But now because of what Trump has done, they can be transported for slaughter. And that is very sad. They go to Canada. They go to Mexico >> and they're rounding them up and the roundups. Our Mustang that we owned with Caroline, >> okay, >> she was rounded up in Nevada as a three-year-old. And I think that is the saddest thing that they they would round him up for slaughter. It's very sad. I hate it. So, you're against that? You're against the both of these things where he's killing animals, >> right? >> You're against ICE arresting, kidnapping, and incarcerating toddlers, right? >> No, >> they don't do that. So, go ahead. >> They absolutely do. They just released one who was 2 years old. >> You can do what you want with people, but you leave the animals alone. >> Okay. Mom, you told me on this show that you are against ICE arresting toddlers. >> Yes. Okay. So, that's three things. You're also against withholding the Epstein files, which Trump is doing. >> Yes. >> So, >> no, he's not. >> Okay. >> Pam Bondi did, not him. >> You keep saying Trump has absolute power as a president. >> Biden did. Hang on. >> Biden's criminal. >> Hang on. You keep saying Trump has absolute power as president to do whatever he wants. Yet, when it comes to these things that are not happening, like the Epstein files getting released, somehow he's powerless. He's my president. I do support him, Chad. I understand. I don't have to. >> I listen, I'm just trying to show you that you have expressed to me on this show. >> Multiple things that you disagree with that he's doing. >> I can still disagree with him, but still have him as my president. Right. >> Of course. I'm not I'm not saying that that that has to not be the case or whatever. I'm just saying that every three or four weeks something pops off where you're like, I don't agree with this. Dad, are you going to be okay? [laughter] >> Barely. >> I mean, you're not even saying anything. You're not even participating. And you're still like, >> your brother, >> he's been very good today. >> I already told you. >> See, even even when he's good, he's not good. Care for him killing animals. Even when dad is good, you >> that doesn't make it wrong. >> You hit him in the head with the hammer. >> He's not being good. >> It's not the Gulf of Mexico. It's the Gulf of America. >> When I'm sitting here talking to you, Mom, and dad does one of these. [groaning] That's not being good. >> Why are you getting up my ass? >> You're getting up my ass. [laughter] >> Happy Easter. >> Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Mom, all I'm trying to say is there are a a mounting list of things that you disagree with that Trump is doing and supporting. >> Whole three. >> No, there's there's >> I just said four. And there's some others, too, that I I can't exactly remember, but >> the day that you can prove to me that he was a um he was what do you call it with the children >> pedophile? >> Yeah. with with any of that Epstein stuff. The day that you can prove to me that's for real, then he's not my president. >> Well, it may be after he's dead, but I think eventually the Epstein files will be released in full in some capacity that I think actually reveals Trump's involvement. >> Were you guys salivating over the last two days that it said that he was rushed to Walter Reed and blah blah blah and that was a hoax? >> Yes. >> Were you salivating? I bet >> my fingers were crossed as hard as I ever could cross them. That's for sure. >> I was scared. >> All right. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. >> And then you come in in the end and try to like position authority over it. Wrap it up. This show's done. Why do you do that, Dad? >> Because it's time. It's one. >> Tired. He's tired. >> I have things to do. >> Like what? >> Well, for one thing, our baseball game started five minutes ago. You got to watch some TV >> for another thing. For another thing, I'm going out to see Shiny later. >> I thought he was going to say he's going to go walk on his walking pad. We need that done today, too. >> Yeah, get some exercise, please. >> He will. >> All right. Well, I guess that's the end of the show. Thank you everybody for joining us. Um, I will be back tonight at 6 PM PST for a live show to answer any questions about today's program. Anybody joining me for that? [snorts] >> I might. Haley, >> I I will if mom does. >> And you can't And you can't [ __ ] walk away after a minute because somebody hurt your feelings. >> Oh, I'll walk away after two bads. Yes, I will. That's my prerogative. >> My prerogative. That they start saying mean things. I'm not going to sit there and say, "Oh, isn't that funny?" No, I won't do that. >> Yeah, you're It's at will. As always, this whole podcast is your >> I'll start it. I'll start it. >> Okay. >> Also, let me uh shout out real quick. Uh, I did get recognized in public. I can't tell you where, when, name, any of that, but thank you. He gave me some food. It was through a drive-thru [laughter] after the food and after I had said a cuss word, too, because a policeman had come through the drive-thru the wrong way and almost head on me. And I I was like, "That damn cop?" And he goes, "I know." He goes, "We're on a bad corner." He goes, "I'm glad you're okay." And then he looked at me. He goes, "Aren't you the lady on a podcast with your two liberal kids and your husband?" I said, "Yes." >> Were you wearing that hat? >> Shout out to I was No, I was hatless. I was had on black shirt, but I was hatless. >> So, shout out there. I love you, Chad. I Chad said, "I can't say your name, but it starts with a C. Thank you very much. It really made my day." >> Okay. >> Uh I didn't say his name. started with a C. That's all I can say. >> Okay. Well, I love you, Mom. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for coming on the live tonight, Dad. Despite the fact that once again, just no respect given to any of us on this podcast by you. I do love you. >> He did very good today. >> He did good. He called for genocide a dozen times, ignored us, stared into space, interrupted us more than anybody by far. >> Good for me. >> I thought he did. [laughter] I love you too, Haley. Thank you for enduring this every week. >> Love you, Mom. Love you, Dad. Love you, Chad. >> I love everybody except Iranians. >> Did I say it already? Love you, Chad. >> And Somalians. Somalians and Iranians. They're they're on my top of my [ __ ] list right now. >> Love you, Jennis [music] and Simone. Talk to you soon. >> That was it. >> All right. Bye. >> No more shout outs. Bye. [laughter]