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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. >> Would you live in Vermont? >> Who? >> You. [ __ ] no. >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. The uh anti-Vermont opinions expressed by my mother are hers and hers alone. Today we have a very special episode. My dad, as you can see, is not with us. He's recovering from his second hip replacement surgery. Haley, you were there this past weekend helping out. We saw the video, or some people saw the video that my mom made with you pushing him in the wheelchair down the the halls of the hospital. How was it? >> Uh, it was all right. He was um, you know, cranky in the beginning because he was in pain, but after the surgery, he was foot loose and fancy free. He was he was smiling and cracking jokes and [ __ ] on the way home. So, uh, I think he's feeling a lot better. >> All right. What was his best joke? >> What >> What was his best joke? >> He was like joking around with one of the nurses drawing his blood. Like, she's actively drawing his blood. He's been poked probably four or five times at this point cuz he's so dehydrated they cannot tap the vein. So she just poking and proddding and he's wincing. But they're making jokes about like after you get that hip you have to run a marathon with me and he's like I don't run but I'll walk. I don't know. He's just like doing weird [ __ ] >> Didn't he tell him knock him in the nose and get blood that way? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. They couldn't get enough blood and he's like just hit me in the nose. It'll drip right out. Get a cup. >> Okay. Uh, interesting. Well, we have a very special show today. I have incorporated some video elements. So, mom, we're going to be showing you some videos of things that we want to get your reaction to, but we will get to that a little bit later. Stick around for it. It's something we're trying a little bit of an experimental thing. >> Do you have any diddies that you want to start the show with? >> They're kind of diddies, and there's a funny story about Bob, but anyway, I'm going to start with this is the real diddy. Trump is considering rebate checks for Americans based on the tariff reviews. He has said this two days ago, one day ago. Um he has collected he said a hundred billion in tariffs since he started those imports that you guys were so much against. >> Cool story, bro. Where's the Epstein files? >> Okay, we're not talking about that now, are we? That's what you said. Are we? Not yet. Not yet. >> Exactly. Yep. >> Okay. And then patriot of the week. A patriot is a person who supports and defends our country or helps individuals in need. I was in need. Patriot Haley and Conrad. I couldn't have done it without you. Um due to the fact also we have a dog at home. >> Wow. >> We can't leave her alone. So one of them was always with Kitty, one was always at the hospital with me or vice versa. Um so I want to thank them. It was um it went smooth because of them >> and um I thank you from the bottom of my heart. >> Wow, that's pretty cool. You got a patriot of the week, Haley. >> I know. My >> and and Conrad. Okay, now this is the funny story. So, oh god. Okay, so Thursday, Haley and I took Bob for the surgery. We were there at 7:30. We um we electronically enrolled him, got him all ready to go. They wheel him in the back and they said, "You can come back in just a second. We've got some things that we need to prepare him for." Okay. Well, then they come and get me because Bob couldn't stand to do the things that they needed him to do. I went back, helped. It was ridiculous. >> They come out and they say he has to be wiped down from what do they call it? Toes to toes to nose. >> Toes to nose. >> He has to be wiped down toes to nose. Okay. For this person. >> And they wouldn't let Haley >> and mom looks at me and goes, "Come back with me." [ __ ] No. >> You don't want to wipe down toes to nose? Come on. >> You're on your own. So yeah, mom had to go back there and wipe down toes. >> What does that mean? Like wipe his ass and stuff? >> No. They they passed me this card and on the card there were five or four things we had to do and I guess they just normally give it to the patient but because he couldn't stand I got these four great big wipes that were thick and weird we had to wipe down where his incision was going to be. We had to wipe in his groin, in his armpits, up on his chest. Yeah. >> Um I had to put Betadine up his nose. I had to help him brush his teeth. >> Why don't they do that? >> I was like, >> they're supposed to. After he had the surgery, we were up in like recovery and mom tells this to like the nurse that's caring for him upstairs and she's like, "The [ __ ] That's literally their job. >> They made mom do it." I was like, "Where's the nurse? Aren't we paying for something here?" But you know what? That's what you do when you love someone. You've been married 50 years. It was no big deal. Got him toes to ears, ears to nose, whatever I was supposed to do. Threw that stuff away. Then here comes Haley. The room is very small. It is big enough for that the gurnie that he was on the bed and then for me and Haley to sit in two little chairs next to him. There was not a lot of room. And then the machines going on him. So we're sitting there and we're waiting. We're go time maybe 15 minutes away. And my my I look down, my phone's buzzing and it's Conrad. I'm going, uh, oh, Conrad is at home with Kitty, so my heart just goes, "Oh, God, not now. Please." >> For those who who don't know who Conrad is, that is my sister's husband. >> Yeah. And he was on kitty cat patrol and duty. And the phone is ringing. I'm like, "Oh god, not now, Kitty. It's not time to go to heaven. Please, please." So, I excuse myself. Like, I'm trying to be cool. I excuse myself. Go out in the hallway. Take the phone call. Con Connor goes, "Uh, Maryl, your lawnmowers are here." I go, "Yeah." He goes, "They just threw a huge rock through your back door and it shattered all over the patio." I go, "My god, no." I go, "Where are they?" And he goes, "I'll go grab him." And so he grabbed the lawnmower, which we love this guy. I'm not going to say his name. We love him. He came back and with his crew, they picked up the sh the shattered glass. It's a double pain. So, the pain that was inside to the house was still there. But there's these little blinds in the middle. Um, and so he goes, "I'll get with Mary Lou. Just tell her I'm sorry and I'll get with her." So, they leave. So, I go, "Thanks, Conrad. Uh, as soon as Haley and I can get out of here, we'll be back home." I go back into the little room as calm as I can. You don't tell a person heading into surgery who also has OCD and has to have everything in its place that the back door just shattered with shards of glass all over our patio. And uh Bob looks at me and goes, "Who was that?" I go, "It was spam. Just a spam call." >> Oh, damn. Nice. Good. >> And I look over at Haley and I start texting Haley. That was no spam. They just broke our glass window. It's all over the back porch. And Haley's eyes are like, >> "Yeah." So, we kept that from him and I think that was good. >> Yeah, good decision. Well, I'm glad it all went well. Sorry about the window. Glad Kitty survived it. Glad dad survived it. And even though he's recuperating now and can't be here today, I wish him well, obviously. And hopefully he'll be back next week. Now, are you ready for our listener question? >> Yes. >> Okay. If you want to send a question to us, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format and email it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Here is our question from today. >> Good afternoon, Cultin family. This is Frank from Boston. Despite your differences with Chad and Haley being on the far left and Bob and Mary Lou being on the far right, at the end of every episode, you take time to tell each other that you love each other. So my question to you, and this is for Chad and Haley as a group and for Bob and Mary Lou as a group. Chad and Haley, do you believe your parents are good people? And to Bob and Mary Lou, do you believe your children are good people? Thanks. Love the show. Have a good day. >> All right, so there's our question. Who wants to go first? Who wants to answer this first? I will. Well, if you don't want to, >> I will. I'll go. >> I will. >> All right, go for it. >> Yeah. Um, you know, I'm 44, so I >> Damn, old. >> I have seen my parents do a lot of things outside of all this Trump [ __ ] Um, also they raised me. So, yeah, my parents are good people. I've seen them do lots of good things for lots of other people. It's kind of I think why I was influenced to do some of the things that I do for other people. Uh >> you know, like when I was little and in softball, there were girls on my team that like couldn't afford cleats or couldn't afford like winter coats and [ __ ] and dad would literally take them to the store before we'd go home and like buy all those things for them. >> Um that, you know, mom and dad help people all the time. >> Sure. >> So yeah, our parents are good people. Uh, a a lot of you guys don't see, I think, the good that they've done in their lifetime. You just see like this podcast and all of us arguing about this [ __ ] And although our dad says that he wants everyone dead, I kind of don't believe part of it. I mean, I do think that he's got some pure [ __ ] rage in there, but uh, he's done a lot of good things for a lot of people. >> All right, Mom. Do you want to go or you want me to go? Um, I'll go, "No, my kids are not good people. They're the best people. They're the best." Whoa. They're the very best. What people don't see is what Haley said. This is our podcast is us fighting over politics. It's not what our family is. I mean, >> for a long time, though. >> Well, Haley did start this weekend when she was here bringing up some stuff. I said, "No, no, no, no. No politics. No politics for the podcast, right? >> No politics. >> Yeah. >> So, people are only seeing a tiny sliver of what our lives are together. >> I will say I don't watch Newsmax and I I be watching Newsmax while I was there. I was like, "This [ __ ] is insane." >> Like, what they're watching is [ __ ] insane. >> Pure. >> Oh, yeah. And she said, "Do you only listen to country western music on your radio?" Uh, yeah. So, get used to it. She knew the songs before she left. >> Who listens to the radio for starters, okay? I heard the same the same six [ __ ] songs that I'd never heard. I can sing them all now by heart. Okay. And you Christ almighty. >> You had my radio fouled up, too. When I got on there, I was like, "Why is that picking up my um >> your phone?" >> My Yeah. Why is that picking up my lists off my Apple phone? No, I need my radio back. I connected the phone so you could listen to like Spotify and use your map and [ __ ] >> No, I like the radio. >> All right. >> Okay. Um, I would say this. I don't really believe in good or bad or evil or any of that [ __ ] >> Stop it. I think we all exist on certain sliding scales of uh intent to be cooperative versus intent to be competitive, of um intent to be selfish or act selfishly to intent to be altruistic or act altruistically. I think we all have both of them in us. Every human being does. It's nobody can be completely altruistic all the time. Nobody can be completely selfish all the time. But yeah, I think uh what you're saying is right, Mom. This show is kind of where we keep our political discussion and we are obviously ideologically extremely opposed to one another. And I don't think that there's a I forget who I was having this conversation with this week, but it was basically the idea is that there is some kind of division that has been created with Trump specifically in this country. And if you're on one side of that, if you voted for him, anybody on the other side of it immediately thinks you're a terrible person and you have nothing redeeming about you. I don't think that's exactly true. I do think that there is no center. There is no like centrist left and centrist right can get along. I don't think that exists. If you voted for Trump, you're over the line period. And I don't think people can ever forgive that. But all that said, um to Haley's point, you guys have obviously done a lot of good stuff in my life. For me personally, for various friends I've had, I can remember some funny instances of things that happened in the past that you guys like handled very well. >> What >> I won't say any names, but I remember having a friend spend the night who [ __ ] his pants and puked and clogged up your bathroom sink and you didn't get mad or anything. You helped him through this horribly traumatic time when we were like 10 years old. >> A friend that like ran away from home and came to us. >> Yeah. like you've literally cared for our friends throughout our lives. >> Yeah. So, I would say that all human beings have good and bad in them if you want to. These are like comparative terms, you know? I don't whatever. We're just human. We're animals. We're human beings trying to get through this thing called life on a >> But you're saying we're bad with politics. You're saying we're bad with politics, though. >> Yeah. But I don't I mean, honestly, I don't really think that's your fault. I think you have been you are victims of this system that has been designed to brainwash you and it worked because I think your generation doesn't quite understand technology and how it's being used against you. I think uh there's a certain percentage of the population that I include you and dad in who operate from a kind of adversarial worldview. And so if somebody says this is your enemy, it's very easy for you guys to be like that's our enemy, [ __ ] them. And you're more motivated by who your enemy is than who your allies are. Um, >> I will tell you this in regard to technology, uh, people my age and dad's age, like with this hip that we had to get, >> if those people don't know how to get onto their Integress and Me account and that is how you talk to your doctor. That's how you ask your questions. That's every time he had a test result through the night and his A1C was up or down. Ding, I get it. I look, ding, I get it. A lot of people don't know how to do that. And that that's sad >> because those doctors, the only call we got was after the operation and he was well, but if you don't know how to navigate onto that computer to find test results, to find review notes, >> that's sad. >> All right. Well, thank you for your question. Again, if you have a question for us, record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary [email protected]. Let's begin our show with a little appetizer. We're not even going to get into a main subject yet. This is something that happened yesterday that I found absolutely hilarious. I'm going to show some pictures of it. And mom, I want to get your reaction to it. Yesterday, Donald Trump posted a meme of himself and JD Vance chasing Barack Obama photoshopped into the very famous shot of the squad of police cars chasing OJ Simpson and his white Bronco going down the freeway. Now, I'm going to show this image right now, and we're going to zoom in and take a look at one thing specifically in it. Okay. >> Where was it posted? on Axe >> on Truth Social. On Trump's Truth Social. Okay, here's the image. If you're just listening, please go watch this on YouTube. Here's the image. Okay, so you can see there's Obama is photoshopped into the white Bronco there, right? And then Trump in the car behind him. >> I love JD, the JD Vance. >> And then let's take a a look at that JD Vance. That's the picture of JD Vance >> that they chose >> that he used. That is known as the fat JD Vance meme. It is all over the internet. There's a version of it. There's a version of it. >> Very good. >> Oh my gosh. >> There's a version of it. >> Very good. >> There's a version of it. >> It's perfect. >> So >> Oh, nice. Nice. >> Trump used this image of JD Vance. Why, Mom, do you think Trump posted a picture using an image of JD Vance, his vice president, that makes him look terrible? That it makes fun of him? >> I I have no idea. That is ridiculous. >> You're against this? >> Yeah, that's stupid. Why would they do that? >> They Donald Trump did this. This is his personal truth social account. >> And are you sure that it's he did this? >> Well, I don't know who controls the account, but I >> I do know this. I remember reading an article. He has a person go around with him basically 24 hours a day that he just dictates his weird tweets to, and they type it and send it out. So, I don't think this is getting posted without his consent, knowledge, and and maybe even at his direction. >> That's crazy. That's just crazy. >> All right, Haley, thoughts on the JD Vance meme here, >> man. Uh, he doesn't like JD Vance. That's what I'm taking from this. He is not He doesn't like JD Vance. Uh, there's something sour going on here. Now, >> I did see another thing, another It was I guess it was a meme, but it was a video where Obama is sitting beside uh uh Trump and the police come in and take Obama away in handcuffs. Did you guys see that one? >> The AI video. Yes. He's posting all kinds of stuff like that. And now, >> I mean, obviously, if Democrats were ever to do this, a picture of Trump being arrested, they would be under investigation, potentially thrown in jail, etc., etc. No, it goes both ways. >> Okay. It does not. >> It's because have never done this. >> How about the redheaded uh comedian Kathy Griffin? Is isn't that her name? Where she did Trump and cut off his head. >> She immediately had to apologize. Got fired from her job, lost all kinds of standup gigs. >> Good. Because that involved death. That involved death. This does not. >> They're likening a lot of J Simpson. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I know. I don't like it. It's stupid. >> Okay. Um, well, let's move on to our first actual topic here, 20 minutes into this program. This is going to be a long one. It is Trump on the Epstein list. This week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Attorney General Pam Bondi told Trump in May of 2025 that his name appears multiple times in the government's Epstein related investigative files. Trump has publicly denied ever being told by Bondi that his name was in the files and has labeled the entire report as fake news. But according to reporting, Trump privately expressed fear, saying, "They're going to [ __ ] me." While a few House Republicans supported subpoenas for Epstein related documents, others blocked votes or shifted blame towards Democrats in the DOJ in an effort to display blind loyalty to Trump. Seemingly in response to this news breaking, Trump fled the United States to one of his golf courses in Scotland, where he met with large protests. It's also been reported that Trump is considering a full pardon for Gain Maxwell, who is currently serving a 20-year sentence for her role in Epste's child sex trafficking operation. And to make matters worse for Trump, counter evidence has been offered to his narrative that he didn't know Epstein that well. Epstein's brother appeared on CNN to offer his account of Trump and Epste's relationship, saying they were very close friends who spent a lot of time together. Mom, do you think Trump's name is in the Epstein files? We went over this last week. We asked if he was on the list. I said no, but I'm pretty sure his name is in there somewhere. >> Okay, that's what I was getting at >> along with a whole bunch of other people. >> Of course. Of course. But there's more The reason I asked this question again is because there's more reporting coming out now that his name is in the files. And you're starting to come around on that. You're starting to accept that may be true. >> I I I guess time's going to tell because supposedly they're gonna let us see all this supposedly. >> Really entertaining pardoning the woman in prison that was behind all of this [ __ ] to keep her quiet. >> No, >> because to open her up, I think to open her up and tell us everything. >> But she has lied multiple times in in all of these proceedings that led to her incarceration >> because she's afraid for her life. Of course, >> but why would she stop lying even if she gets pardoned? I don't think she's like a trustworthy person in this entire scenario. She was helping Jeffrey Epstein run a a ring of child sex trafficking. This is not a a person you can really trust. I feel like >> I I don't know. She's going to dump She's going to dump on some people and she's going to raise some people up. So, who's it going to be? But do you think someone Do you think someone like that deserves a pardon from the president of the United States? Like a get out of jail free card, what she did to all those children? >> No. No, I don't. >> And so if he pardons her, what will your reaction to that be? >> I'll be very upset. I would be very upset. >> So can you see that this is corruption? That he's a sleazy piece of [ __ ] for letting somebody like that go free? >> No, I cannot say that about the president of the United States. I like Donald Trump. So, even let's say he pardons her and let's say he runs for a third term. Would you vote for him again if he pardons Glenn Maxwell? >> I don't know. I don't know >> your whole thing. Not your whole thing, but a big piece of why you like >> children. I know. I know. And that is wrong. But there has to be a reason that he's going to pardon her. >> It's to open up all the rest of the devil people that will go to hell. Let me just paint this picture. Let me let me paint what is most likely here. >> He is pardoning her because she knows he's in the file. She was there when he was raping children who have he's been accused of that by uh I forget her name now, but there was a woman who came out and said when she was 13 >> and got raped by Trump >> at Epstein's house or his island or whatever. Um I think Trump would pardon her in a deal basically to be like, "We're going to pardon you. I want you to turn over everybody except me. Don't [ __ ] mention my name or we'll kill you. >> Yeah, I don't think that would be the deal. That is your opinion. What you think it is. The deal I think would be I will pardon you if you tell the truth and if you give the names of the people that did this, right? It's not going to be Trump. >> But here's the crazy part. >> The Clintons, it's going to be all the other people that are on there. Here's the crazy part. They already have the list. >> Yes. >> It's already in their possession. >> He doesn't need her. >> But >> what he needs is for her to omit him from those lists publicly. >> No, I don't think that's it. I think it's the other way around. >> Let me Part of this reporting that came out in the Wall Street Journal says basically that Pam Bondi has looked at all these files and told Trump in May, "Your name's all over this [ __ ] and that's why it hasn't come out." Do you believe that part of the reporting? >> Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I did see that. I don't know. >> Also, what a piece of [ __ ] Pam Bondi is just sitting on. All these people that have raped children just sitting on it and then lying to the American public that we don't even have a list. That [ __ ] should be fired and put in jail. She is covering up like the biggest [ __ ] scandal of like this decade. >> No, the biggest [ __ ] scandal is Obama. But we'll talk about that later. >> Hang on. Hang on. >> I know. We'll talk about it later. >> Obama ain't in those lists. Bill Clinton is for sure. And I think he's going down. >> Bill Clinton. Obama could be in there for sure. Who knows? >> But I'm fine with that. >> Right. I don't give a [ __ ] who it is. If you were there, you deserve to go to jail. >> Yes. Republican, Democrat, I don't give a [ __ ] Right. So >> whoever did that to the little girls needs to go to hell and needs to be in prison the rest of their life, >> including Trump. Right. >> If he's on there. Yes. Yes. Okay. So, this could really be the straw that breaks the camel's back for you. >> It could be. Yes. >> If those lists come out and his name is in them in a credible way, will you denounce Donald Trump? >> I might. Yes. >> Okay. I think that's coming. I don't think they're going to be able to stop this. It's like no one gives a [ __ ] about anything else. >> I just watched some press conference he gave in Scotland this morning where he was like, "Windmills, they ruin the landscape. We need to completely abolish them. Windmills should be outlawed. >> You need to take a class on h how to get his uh voice a little bit better. >> A class. >> A class. Let us send the link class. >> I think the biggest I think the biggest terrible thing of the century is Obama. >> Your dad always said Obama was behind everything. And now that's all coming into the cliff. >> None of that's real. And also you understand that Trump is feeding you that. He's posting these memes of Obama getting arrested. He's posting a meme of Obama as OJ. Like he's just fueling that. And it goes back to what I just said, the adversarial nature of your worldview. Trump is saying, "Here's the guy you should be pissed at. It's Obama, not me. Don't be pissed at me. Here it is. This is the enemy. A dude who hasn't been [ __ ] president for a decade." I'm I'm telling you, it is 100% the fact that they watch Newsmax because I sat there watching this [ __ ] and it was like I'm looking around like >> this is unbelievable. It is just lie after lie and it's [ __ ] gri after grift and it's none of it is real. It's all [ __ ] insane. And Obama was the reoccurring like Obama this, Obama that. I was like, "Hey, remember those Epstein files, Mom? Remember how Trump is out here raping kids? Obama Obama." Like it's it's relentless. What about uh Tulsi Gabbard now has the evidence, it's concrete that Obama did try to change that election in 2016 with the Russian hoax. He tried to um do Trump in what about that? What about all that that evidence? He was the leader that was >> Trump won that election. >> Trump won that election. >> Yes. But they had brought >> the election. It was Hillary Clinton's idea to bring up the Russian hoax. >> Won the Electian, >> but it conspiracy that they had going on to overthrow our government and to make him not win that election >> and it's in thousands of pages and they're going to release that. And the people also it was Biden was in every one of those meetings um along with um Comey, uh Brennan, Clapper, Rice. What about all that? That dossier that they paid money for all that. What about that? We just uh pushed that under the rug. >> All that [ __ ] the dossier was investigated. All of this stuff came out years ago. >> This is very old news. And it's >> No, it isn't. It's fake news. Quite frankly, it's fake news. >> It's very concerning as an American to think that they >> all of these conspiracies, you're obsessed with conspiracies. It's fake news. >> Is it not concerning then that there is also chatter that Elon Musk helped Trump win his election this time around? Why don't you believe that? >> I have not heard that. >> It's because you watched the wrong >> about it on this goddamn show. There's a lawsuit going through New York right now that is uh a kind of like independent legal watchdog group who looks almost specifically at election stuff is suing the company who maintained the voting machines in these key districts in all these swing states because they changed the software on the voting machines like 4 days before the election without telling anybody. Nobody knew what they were doing or what the new software is. And those are the very places that Trump in during the campaign was like, "We won't even need your votes. Elon knows these voting machines very well. We're gonna win every state. He said that. >> He literally said that. >> He said, "You're not even gonna need to vote." >> We're 30 minutes in. We have so much to get to. So, let's try to blaze through this. Our next issue is going to include a video that I'm going to play. Video came out this week of ICE detaining Mi I'm going to butcher this last name. My apologies. Konbabazada, a 38-year-old Iranian chiropractor outside Guidepost Monatory Preschool in Beaverton, Oregon, while his child was in the car. He is a legal Iranian national who entered the US on a student visa. He's married to a US citizen and has legally completed his green card interview, which is currently still pending. IC stated that he overstayed his visa while his family disputes that, pointing out that his lawful status and ongoing adjustment process is currently happening. He is right now detained in the Northwest Ice Processing Center in Tacoma, Washington, awaiting deportation proceedings. Now, I'm going to play for you a video of this happening. Are you ready, Mom? >> Mhm. >> Here we go. >> Hello, sir. >> How you doing today? >> Good, thank you so much. >> You mind if I grab your ID from you? Go ahead and roll your window all the way down. >> Why? What's going on? >> Go ahead and roll your window all the way down. >> I have a baby in the car. >> That's okay. That's okay. with the baby. >> Just roll your window all the way down. >> Go ahead and roll your window down. >> Your window. Roll it down. >> Roll your window all the way down for me, please. >> Yeah. Do you have your ID on you? >> I can see your ID. >> Yeah, that's 40 footies. >> Where you heading? >> Daycare. >> I'm sorry. >> Daycare. Daycare. >> Okay. >> Where's daycare? >> Just to Beaverton. >> How far? >> 5 minutes. Help. I I'm I'm getting out. I'm getting out. >> Well, you should have done told you three times. Unbeliev I understand. Why they are doing this? >> I'm a doctor. >> I'm a doctor. I'm a Iranian. >> This is not okay. And no one here will identify themselves to me. They came into You are not okay. This is not okay. And no one will identify themselves. >> No one here will identify. >> There you have it, Mo. That Do you believe that video is real? First of all, do you think this really happened? >> It I don't know. It looked real. I guess >> it is. I'm just asking you your your kind of first line of psychological defense against the reality of the situation is usually to say, "I didn't see it. I don't think that happened." So, you did see this video. Do you think it happened? >> Apparently, yes. >> Okay. Do you think that guy deserves to be deported? Does he fit the bill of these maniac criminals pouring over the border that Trump seems so um consumed with? >> No. So you don't think that guy should be deported? >> Okay. I don't know the guy. I don't know why the story behind it. If he, you know, murdered someone, raped someone, wronged someone. >> No. I told you who he is. He is married to a US citizen. >> He's a chiropractor in Oregon cuz it's been reported on by every news outlet in the world. >> Last week I said this. I said I think they are getting some of these arrests wrong. I did say that. >> Okay. >> But for and if they got it wrong, then once they take him to wherever they're taking him and figure this out, he will be let go. Let's watch next week and see if he is let go. >> We will. But but even if he's let go, even if he's let go. >> Yeah. >> For every wrong that they're getting, they're also getting the right ones. the ones that are murdering, raping, coming over with drugs are getting all those right. >> But let's just look at the the base facts that we saw in that video. There's a little baby in the backseat of that car >> that has gone through probably the most traumatic event of that child's life. These masked maniacs shattering the window of the car the baby is in, pulling their dad out in handcuffs and hauling him off to god knows where. That kid is [ __ ] up for life because of >> How about the parents of the daughters that were raped, murdered, rocks through the head? How about those parents? >> What are you talking about? We're talking about this guy you just watched. >> Stop using that to justify them doing this innocent people. >> I could show you the clip though of illegals that have come in and raped and murdered, too. So, you're showing me one side. I'm talking about this guy. >> That isn't this guy. He's not. >> There's no sides. >> If you're going to get the bad guys, as Trump calls them, the guys committing these heinous crimes, >> then go get him. Why are you [ __ ] with this guy who's taking his kid to daycare, shattering his window. >> I have no idea why they arrested that man. >> I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. because there's a quota to have 3,000 deportations a day sent down by Donald Trump. There are not that many in quotes bad guys and criminals. So, they're going after anybody who's this guy, by the way, is here legally. He's a US national. He is married to a US citizen. He is in the process. >> He's in the process of getting his green card. Why would you ever go after a person who is doing it exactly as you've always claimed, the right way, the legal way? >> Because he will be let go. But why go after him in the first place at all? >> They sought him out. Maybe they thought he pulled him over based on his license plate. They sought him out. They need bodies. They >> thought he was somebody else. Maybe they thought he was somebody else. >> He gives him his ID. You see that in the video. >> Maybe they had orders to take him. >> They did. Yes. so wellunded that they are now using like all technology to hunt people down like using stop lights and cameras and things to find people like him who are brown from other countries. He's [ __ ] legal here. But because they need [ __ ] bodies, they're taking this doctor, father, husband to [ __ ] Guantanamo Bay because they have to meet a quota. But then if they're catching the wrong people, I truly believe they will. >> They didn't catch him. They [ __ ] hunted him down. >> This wasn't like a he was in the middle of something bad. He's a [ __ ] dude taking his kid to daycare and they broke his window and they put him in cuffs. >> I told you last week, I think they are picking up some of the wrong people. Once they find out who they are, then they are released. You're not going to take a man like that and stick him in a prison. already did. >> Yes, he's he's current >> I told you this. I literally told you this information. He is now at the Northwest Ice Processing Center in Tacoma, Washington. He's been there for multiple days awaiting deportation. >> He's been there for 12 [ __ ] days. >> Let's look next week. I bet he's out of there and gone. I bet. >> All right, we'll pick up the story then. But I just want to make the point that you your kind of like two lines of defense are this isn't real. Now, we've shown you a video, which you do believe is real. So, you notch down to the next line of defense, which is, well, they have to catch some some people in error if they're going to get all the bad people. But that brings to mind to me this idea that like they're just driving around in their ice trucks until they see somebody. They're like, maybe that guy's a illegal immigrant. Let's pull him over and see. That's not how this is working. It's what Haley is saying. They are using Palunteer, this giant software company owned by Peter Teal, to go through all of the data that they have on everybody in this country. And if they see like, oh, this guy's in the middle of processing for his green card or legal status in the United States, it isn't cleared yet, so he's technically illegal, even though he's not. >> They aren't even giving people the chance to do the right thing here to become citizens. They're not allowing them even the chance. >> Yeah. I don't believe that they're using that whatever you said and then >> [ __ ] How'd they find this [ __ ] then? >> I don't know. >> How'd you find him? >> I don't know. >> Luck. Just sheer [ __ ] luck. >> I don't know. >> Well, think about it. >> I am. >> Don't just say I don't know. Think about how this could be happening. >> We just told you. >> Let me ask you this question with regard to this specifically. What do you think of these ICE officers who are shattering this guy's window? >> Piece of [ __ ] >> And dragging him out in front of his child. >> Pieces of [ __ ] What should happen is like an entire gaggle of citizens should [ __ ] stop them at all costs. >> That's what it's going to come to. Because when it if it comes down to you taking me or my kid, I'm [ __ ] fighting you. >> It already is going to come down to that. And then people will start really getting killed right there in the street. Well, >> I always thought that our civil war would be blacks against whites. >> I never in my dreams thought it would be illegals against >> um Americans and not illegals against Americans. You're missing a very big point here. It is the citizenry against a private police force funded by Donald Trump. >> The most patriotic thing you can do right now is [ __ ] fight these piece of [ __ ] I agents. That is the most patriotic thing you can do in this country right now is tell ICE to eat [ __ ] [ __ ] >> I agree. >> Okay. But they're also getting the murderers, the rapists, the drug guys. They're getting them out of here and making your street that you live on safer every night. >> They're electing people like Trump for president. I [ __ ] >> Actual [ __ ] garbage. >> I don't agree with you on that. >> I agree 100%. And I think it's going to be interesting to watch what happens. Um, these people don't identify themselves. They specifically wear masks so that you can't tell who they are because they know if this video gets out, >> their lives are over. They understand what they're doing is bad and they do it anyway. Either because perversely they enjoy it or I know they're giving you big bonuses to sign up as an ICE officer right now because we just uh passed the big beautiful bill that made ICE the highest funded government agency by far of any government agency. So they're just paying these people shitloads of money to torture people who are here in our country legally. >> That's what America is right now. >> It's absolutely disgusting. >> I feel like our country is very much more safe because our border is closed and now we're getting some of the bad guys out. And that's that is what he ran on. >> That is what Donald Trump ran on. That's what the people of the United States wanted. I told you there's going to be I don't want to call him I'm not going to say it. It's >> like a collateral damage. That man probably should not have been picked up, but he's going to be let go. >> Collateral be let go. His child is traumatized for life. He's going to spend two weeks. Best case scenario, he spends two weeks in an alligator Alcatres type place and then has to come back. >> Maybe he gets to sue the US government. That's going to get lost in the shuffle. When you say we're safer, there are videos like this and I'm gonna play one every week. I'm gonna play one of these ICE videos for you every week. >> And you know what I'm gonna play? I'm gonna play the video clips of the parents of the moms and dads that have lost children from illegals over here that have raped them, taken rocks, and beat them upside the fence. I'll I'll get you. >> What about playing Okay, let me What about Let me What about you? Let me What about you? What about playing videos of people who get murdered by American citizens? Not every crime is committed by an illegal immigrant. You understand that, right? >> How about the guy that just murdered those four kids like >> being drugged uh brought in over uh the border? A lot of drugs, a lot of >> How about school shootings? Those are all white guys in America. American white guys. >> No, I don't want to get into that, but it's really um I don't want to tell you what I'm gonna say. I'm not going to say that. Never mind. >> Say it. >> No. >> Why? >> Why? >> Hello. >> Some of those were No, I'm not going to say it. Go ahead. >> You don't think they were real? You're about to say they were actors. >> No. >> What? >> They were real school shootings, but they weren't committed by white men. >> Uh, yeah, they were. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they were. >> The first and biggest one, Coline, the one that kind of kicked it all off in this country. Those were two white kids. >> Okay. All right, let's move on. This is going to be a short topic and then we'll try to get through the rest of these because I do want to get to this other video. Uh, I'm not even going to read all of this. I'm just going to say South Park season 27 premiere happened this week. >> Did you see it, Mom? >> No, I did not, but I read in the notes what it was. That's ridiculous. >> Haley, did you watch it? >> Yes. >> Ridiculous. >> I didn't think it was particularly funny, >> but um I loved that they did it. They showed Trump's penis multiple times and they made very much fun of how it looks strange and a small um they have >> Why would you think Why would you think that's okay if they would do that with the president of our United States to show stuff like that? >> [ __ ] Donald Trump. That's why. >> Yeah. Also because it's America and it's freedom of speech and no one is above public ridicule. That's part of what makes America America. >> Yeah. Now, it's it's much more complicated in this specific case because this is aired a few days after this big Sky Dance Paramount merger, which is embroiled in the whole thing of 60 Minutes settling with Donald Trump and capitulating to all of his demands. It also is coming at a time where Trump is trying to get the FCC on board to basically get rid of in quotes biased news coverage on networks, which means state media. Basically, that's happening now. And so to see that Paramount not only aired this, they gave them a$1 point something billion dollar deal for the next few years of South Park. So they're at least on one hand they're like settling with Trump, but on the other hand they're airing this totally subversive [ __ ] you to Trump. I don't know. It's all kind of fascinating and bizarre to see where it's all going. >> You didn't watch it though, Mom? >> No, I haven't seen it, but I read what it said and I was like, you know, I was thinking back about presidents in the past. Would they do do that to a president like in the 50s or 60s? No. >> Yeah. They had Ronald Reagan on like I remember Ronald Reagan on like Mad Magazine. They definitely like have drugged presidents through the mud in media. Like one of >> showing their penises, not showing their ding dingadongs. >> I mean, [ __ ] >> Will Frell did an entire hourong standup bit as George Bush Jr. where he just made fun of him for an hour and that was aired on HBO. >> Genesis singing Land of Confusion with the puppets. Uh Ronald Reagan making fun of him. Yeah, they they people have been making fun of presidents like Lifelong >> Saturday Night Live. That's that's everybody's mean in the United States. Left side especially. They're very very mean. And you even said that too, Chad. >> Okay. As ICE is uh [ __ ] arresting innocent people. >> Okay, move on. Why do you why did you separate it? Like why left right? Like why' you do that? >> Because I think right now in the world uh the left people are very mean. It I love our country. I've always loved the United States living here, but I don't like some of the people in it right now at all. >> But you think it's only the people on the left? You have a problem with >> I think it's both ways. I think it's both ways, but I think the left is very very ugly right now. >> Okay. That's weird because I get death threats from MAGA. Literally, >> I get death threats from MAGA and from left. I get death threats from both. >> I get from the left. I get from the left. And in fact, I don't look I'm not going to look anymore. And I have a friend that said she would filter them for me if needed. But I said, "No, it's okay." But I do if anybody threatens me on there or threatens anybody in my family, I'm going to I'll probably block them. I can block you. >> So, keep it coming. I'll block you. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Take back the power. All right. We've come to the halfway point of our show, which is uh insane. We're already running along here, but I wanted to ask each of us what was our favorite hat and put it on and say why we like it. >> Oh, I didn't I didn't read that. I didn't bring a hat. You didn't read it. >> No, I was I had a lot of [ __ ] to do today. I didn't get to the prompts. I'm sorry. >> Oh [ __ ] Nice hat, Mom. >> Let me see if I can There a hat around here. >> Look, you and I were prepared. Look at Haley. >> What's yours say, Chad? >> Come on now. >> You don't ever wear that. >> Come on now. I wear it on my other podcast. This is a hat that was designed by the runner up of the last season of Bachelor season 29. Grant Ellis was the Bachelor. Letia Gar became famous for saying when uh Grant Ellis told her, "It's not you, it's me." She goes, "Come on now." And then she's now made this hat that has a little horse on it and it says, "Come on now." And I bought it from her store. Thank you, Latia Gar. >> Does that have a horse on it? I can't see. You're too far away. There's a little horse on it. >> Speaking of horses, I wear this in my fancy show. Oh, I like it. I might need the hat. I wear this on when I ride shiny in my fancy shows. My world my big shows. >> Yeah, >> I'll just describe my hat. >> It's a wild hat. What? Describe it. >> I'll just I can't run down and get it. It's just like a It's a black hat and on the underside of the brim it has the pattern of um Van Go skeleton smoking cigarette. Okay. and I wear it a lot like when we travel or because I don't like the sun in my face. Um, so it's my most frequently worn hat and my whole bakery tells me that I look like a [ __ ] boy when I wear it. >> Nice. >> So that's just an additional a what >> a [ __ ] boy. >> Okay. Don't even know what that is, but whatever. >> It's dad. Dad's a [ __ ] boy. >> What are you make? He's not here to defend himself, so stop it. >> He's not. A [ __ ] boy is just like a douchebag guy who's non-committal and love bombs women all this kind of [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Um all right. Well, those are our hats. Let's move on. Our next topic is the Texas redistricting. This week, Texas Republicans led by Governor Greg Abbott under direct pressure from Donald Trump have initiated a rare mid decade redistricting uh through a special legislative session. Their goal is to create up to five new Republican leaning districts, which would bring GOP control from 25 of 38 seats up to possibly 30 seats ahead of the 2026 midterms, helping protect their narrow House majority and assure Texas Democrats have no chance of controlling state government. Trump has publicly urged Texas lawmakers to undertake the redistricting and has reportedly collaborated with state legislators to draw lines that favor GOP voters in key urban and border districts. Democratic lawmakers have threatened legislative walkouts similar to past tactics and legal experts anticipate lawsuits under the Voting Rights Act. Mom, should states be allowed to redraw districts in such blatantly partisan ways. >> Why not? And if you don't like it, move. >> Okay. Hey, >> every state can do whatever they want. But the the general idea of any election, be it a state, federal, whatever, >> is that you are getting an accurate assessment of the attitudes of your population >> as a whole. Right? So if you live, let's say in Texas, that's where all this is taking place. Haley, you do live there. Mhm. >> If you live in Texas, don't you want to believe that all of the elections serve the greater desires of the entire population and not just the desires of whatever party gets to draw the district lines that election? It's like extending the line, you know, like if if one area of Texas is ultra [ __ ] liberal. It's extending that line to get more conservativism into that vote. They're trying to [ __ ] rig the system. It's gerrymandering. They are rigging the [ __ ] election in Texas. >> You said you're going to move anyway. No, but mom, are you okay with that? The idea that like this is cheating or it's it's not technically cheating because it is legal. Like if if there's a Democrats do this, too. They redraw districts as well, >> right? >> But the idea of it just generally speaking that you can look at a map and you can see statistically where people are voting more Republican or more Democrat and if you're the party in power, you can just draw these weird [ __ ] squiggle lines to be like, well, if we get this and this percentage, that means we'll win every district. So you can anybody can go in and just carve up a state. >> So then you so then you have to do a law that states we can't do that. >> Correct. In my opinion, you do away with districts completely. >> It's general election of the state, general election of the country. And that's how you run it. Majority wins every vote >> per numbers. Yeah. Yeah. That >> Are you for that? >> Well, I think it should be >> That means Trump has never won an election. >> Why? He's never won the general election. >> He always >> And then Obama can screw around in 2016 and Hillary Clinton can try to change the whole thing too with >> Do you think what they're doing in Texas? >> Do you think what they're doing in Texas is right? >> Probably not. >> Wow. Okay, you're coming around. >> Coming around. >> I think it's um you know, part for the course. Like I said, both sides do this. This one seems more egregious to me than than past redistricting, but this always comes up. >> Well, didn't Gavin Newsome say, "Fuck it. We're going to do it, too." >> Yeah, but okay. To what end? I guess he can get rid of maybe a few seats in like the Texas or the California state legislature. I mean, that's what this is. It's >> some of the swing states could definitely [ __ ] I mean, if if Texas if Texas is going to do it, what's going to stop another state from doing it? >> Yeah. I think Texas will be a country all of its own. That would be nice. And so California and Chad could live in another country. He could live in California. Another country. >> I'd be happy with that. Totally fine with it. >> I'd probably move to California. >> Oh my god. Well, I won't. So, you put that in your pipe and smoke it. >> We have two more We have two more topics to get to here. I do want to try and get to them both. More. >> Hurry. >> I'm I'm doing my best. You open >> up dads now. Hurry. You you opened with a very long story about dad's hip replacement. >> Oh yeah, blame me. Go ahead. >> Okay, that's what I'm doing. And so we are now moving on to topic number five. Trump pardoned multiple violent offenders. Earlier this year, Trump pardoned nearly 1600 convicted criminals who participated in the attempt to violently overthrow the US government on January 6th, 2021. New information is now emerging about some of their violent criminal past and current violent criminal behavior. I'm going to play this video. This video comes from the former US pardon attorney. She's very active on Instagram and she does these great videos. So, this is again a video piece of evidence for you, Mom. And then we're going to talk about it after we watch it. Here we go. >> Just a warning that some of the details of this post might be upsetting. The Trump administration keeps claiming that it is deporting the worst of the worst criminals, rapists, murderers, and child sex offenders. But at the same time, Donald Trump has released from prison a whole bunch of Americans who have done exactly those things. I'm Liz Oyer, the former pardon attorney for the Department of Justice. Let's look at some of the people Trump released from prison with pardons on his first day in office. This is Theodore Midendorf. He is a registered sex offender who is now back in prison for predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, age seven. This is Andrew Taki. He is now facing charges of soliciting a minor for sex online. This is David Daniel. He is accused of engaging in sexual acts with two children and photographing them. This is Emily Hernandez. She is now serving a prison sentence for killing a mother of two while driving drunk. This is Peter Schwarz who has what prosecutors called a jaw-dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions, including violent assaults. This is Daniel Ball. His prior convictions include domestic violence, battery by strangulation, resisting law enforcement with violence, and battery on a law enforcement officer. This is Casey Hopkins. His priors include forcible rape, the details of which are frankly too graphic to describe here. This is Benjamin Martin. His priors include battery of his 14-year-old daughter and his girlfriend. This is Edward Hemway. He served time for sexual battery and criminal confinement. This is Edward Richmond Jr. He was court marshal by the US Army after shooting an Iraqi civilian in the head while he was in handcuffs. So those are facts and I'd like to hear what Donald Trump and Christy Noom have to say about them. >> Mom, do you believe that video to be accurate? >> I don't know that woman. >> She's Liz Oyer, the former US pardon attorney. >> Mhm. I I need to re search that myself. >> Okay? >> So, if it's true, it's true. And then I can show you who Biden released too and did pardons to. >> Okay? You can show us whatever you want to show us. But right now, I want you to focus on what you just watched. That was a >> If that's true, >> okay? >> Yeah. That should never have happened, >> but it did. And you yourself, >> if it's true, >> I understand you you're questioning the validity of it. But let's go down the path theoretically that what you've just watched was real and everything she said is correct. All that information is right. >> Those people should not have been pardoned. >> Okay, >> if that's true, >> but you yourself and dad have said multiple times on this podcast, everybody at January 6th is an American hero, a patriot, and they did the right thing. There about 15 of those >> on that day. They were >> okay. So the >> as they were let in as the gates were open and they said, "Oh, come on in." Yes. >> So you think it's okay that people with those priors like that kind of a record? I mean, [ __ ] One of them beat his 14-year-old daughter and his girlfriend, one of them was in prison for strangling someone. Like these are violent crimes, >> right? And so you're okay with those violent people because that isolated incident of January 6, you think they're patriots in that moment, but you think, >> but I'm asking, you said, well, that day it was fine. So that day when those [ __ ] criminals were on that lawn, that's okay. You consider them patriots. >> They were doing what they felt they had to do on that day. Yes. >> Okay. I can show you who Bard who pardon who Biden pardoned too. And he did let some sex predators go. Some >> I don't give a [ __ ] rapist. So put them all back in prison. >> Who cares? You always go back to this Biden Obama [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] >> They all do wrong. >> They can all be in prison for all I care. I don't give a [ __ ] >> Mom, let me let me go down that path with you. You say, "Well, Biden did this. Biden did that." And you hate that he did that, right? >> Yes. >> But you don't hate that Trump did it. >> That's not right. I just said that's not right. If those >> So do you have a certain amount of disdain for Trump for doing that >> crimes? If they did those crimes, they should not have been pardoned. >> So he's the president of the United States. You think that he might [ __ ] know that [ __ ] about these people before unleashing them on the street again? >> Okay, here's a question. They were pardoned for January 6. >> How did they get out of prison prior to that if those were the crimes that they really did? >> Our judicial system is [ __ ] They don't care about women and children. Some of these crimes were happened post January 6th. Since they've been released, they are now committing more crimes. >> She explained all that in the video. Um, >> okay. >> And also, you go to jail and then you do your time and you get out. That's how the the penal system works. So, for some of those crimes, I'm sure you get 10 years in jail. Now, they're in their mid30s and they're out doing more crimes. But I just the the reason I showed you that video is because I know a lot of times when I'm reading these facts, you and dad just kind of like dismiss them as like whatever. He's just reading [ __ ] Dad multiple times like I'm sick listening to you read. But I think if you have video in front of you of these things, it might change your mind to some degree. Does this impact you in any way? Are you curious about it? Curious enough? >> No, I'm curious >> to go look this up. >> Yes. >> Okay. Her name is Liz Oyer. She's on Instagram and she makes videos constantly about exactly this type of thing, the legal ramifications of what Trump is doing, who he's pardoning, etc., etc. I highly recommend her Instagram, but I think I'm going to try and incorporate some more videos like this into the show. I think they might work. I don't know. >> I can I can incorporate some, too, then. >> Okay. Sure. We have one more topic this week. Trump brought a murderer into the United States this week. Trump brought Dahoud Haned Ortiz, a dual US Venezuelan citizen and former US Marine, back to the US as part of a prisoner exchange among the US, Venezuela, and El Salvador. Ortiz was convicted in 2024 in Venezuela for a triple homicide committed in Madrid in 2016 involving stabbing and arson at a law office and was sentenced to 30 years in Venezuelan prison. He is now a free citizen in the United States. The US freed 252 Venezuelan nationals held in an El Salvadorian maximum security prison. In return, 10 Americans detained in Venezuela were released, including this guy, Ortiz. He was flown to Texas, greeted by officials, even though he was not classified as a political prisoner. Spanish and German officials who aided in his conviction have condemned the swap, calling it a failure of justice. Families of the victims and Spanish authorities have expressed outrage over him walking free, calling the decision a betrayal of justice. Mom, what do you think about Trump not only freeing a person convicted of three murders, but then bringing him into the United States >> in regard to a prisoner swap, right? >> This is a man who committed triple homicide, >> right? >> Serving multiple decades in a Venezuelan prison. He just brought him to the United States and said, "Here you go. have a good life. >> I don't understand what the prisoner swap was. >> We have put however many prisoners now in that Venezuelan or El Salvadorian, sorry, super mega prison, right? Many of those are Venezuelan nationals who have no gang affiliations that are just people we rounded up and threw in that prison. So, Venezuela says, "We want to get our people out of this prison who were put there unjustly." America says, "Fine, then you have to release some of our prisoners and and return them back to America. We'll return these ones back to Venezuela." So they do a swap. So the deal was 10 of our guys for 252 of yours and one of our 10 guys is this dude who committed a triple [ __ ] murder. >> Yeah, I don't understand that. >> I don't understand why he would be the swap. >> No one's paying attention. Nobody gives a [ __ ] >> Who would use that as a prisoner swap? That's weird. Yeah, >> Donald Trump. >> Donald Trump it because he's old and [ __ ] stupid. He or just doesn't care. >> Okay. He doesn't give a [ __ ] >> Well, that's not good. >> You say you want to keep like murderers and rapists out of the country. Well, your president just brought one here. >> I know. Not good. Not good. >> So, are you starting to see the cracks that like Donald Trump is not infallible? He's actually a [ __ ] idiot most of the time. >> No. I >> He let rapists He let rapists He pardon [ __ ] child rapists and strangers and murderers off for the January 6th [ __ ] He's bringing actual [ __ ] murderers into our country. Bringing them here. >> You can understand like you can't trust everything he says, right? >> Hello. He didn't just, by the way, he didn't just bring this guy here. It's not like he took him out of this Venezuelan prison and brought him and put him in a United States prison. >> This guy's free. He's walking the [ __ ] streets. This is a man who brutally murdered three people. >> Yeah. Not good. If you're a murderer, you shouldn't walk the streets. But if you're illegal, you shouldn't be walking the streets either. >> So, does >> this has nothing to do with that? >> Does this in any way make you kind of question >> Does it make you kind of question like, oh, well, maybe Donald Trump isn't making the best decisions all the time? >> No, I just think always telling us >> prisoner swaps are prisoner swaps are stupid the way they do them, who gets released, who doesn't. So, I don't know. >> But is there there's no part of you that sees the error or even the hypocrisy in the idea that he tells you, Trump tells you, "We're keeping the bad people out. We're looking for the bad guys to put them in this place in El Salvador." >> Then he literally brings a murderer into the United States. >> Yeah, that's like a double negative. I didn't you didn't bring it up, but I want to just say it real quick before we're done. Did you not read the article about how Trump ordered like to burn 500 how 500 million pounds of food or some [ __ ] that was going to go to You didn't read that article. >> No, I didn't see this. What is it? >> Um, let me read. Hang on. It says >> Oh, hold. The Trump administration recently ordered the destruction of 500 tons of emergency food aid that could have fed 1 million malnourished children for a week. Instead of delivering, they decided to [ __ ] burn it. >> And it was supposed to go where? Gaza. >> Yeah, they burned it. >> Have you been seeing that stuff, Mom? What's going on in Gaza with malnutrition? >> Children starving to death. >> That's a whole another issue. I'm >> It is. I know. We don't have time. We we've run out of time unfortunately. Maybe we'll get to it next week. Hopefully Dad will be back. But I just want to ask you one final question, Mom, before we get to the I love yous. Is are these videos at all like hitting you in a different way than me just reading the information? >> Yes, they did. Yes. But yes, but for every bad video you can show me like that, I can show you one that where the illegal was taken away or put in prison or jail that killed someone, raped someone. So, I get it. >> Both sides. Both sides. >> No, there's not both sides of this. Okay. >> This is like a false equivalency thing. >> Yes, they may be getting some of the bad guys, >> but you're saying the acceptable cost is they're just rounding up random dads and throwing them in a detention center. That's not right. >> That should never happen whether they're catching the bad guys or not. It's not like >> like can you imagine if the your attitude about that it was the same about criminals that were American? You'd be like, "Yeah, the cops uh do catch these criminals, but also we have to have the exact same number of innocent people serving life sentences in prison." >> Yeah. No, right. No. No. >> Okay. Well, thank you for joining us. Mom, thank you for uh soloing this one. I know it's easier when dad's there to back you up. I hope we didn't gang up on you or you don't feel ganged up on in any way. That's not what we're trying to do. >> I'm just tired. We're all tired here. >> Uh well, well wishes to dad wherever he may be. assuming sleeping in the chair >> on his narco with his hydrocordone. I think >> lucky >> I have it written down. He can only have it so many hours. I don't give it to him. Today is the worst day. >> Yeah, >> number three is the worst pain. >> Well, hopefully he'll be back on his feet soon. I do love him. I love you, Mom. I love you, Haley. >> Love you, Mom. Love you, Chad. Just so you know, I'm pretty sure osteoarthritis is genetic, so keep lifting those weights and eating right. She googled it while we were in the hospital and she's >> I said I got a little twinge in the old right hip if I sit a little bit too long. I said, "Oh shit." So I'm going to in the gym. My teeth are fine. >> Fine. >> Like have you ever had a cavity? >> Yeah. >> So you might have had you might have gotten mom's bones. I think I got dad's. I've never had a cavity or anything like that. >> I've had lots of cavities. They told me I got like deep pits or some [ __ ] I twice. >> Mom has that. But dad has like those horse teeth, right? >> Yeah, they're back. >> See, I think I got his [ __ ] bones. God damn it. >> Okay. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. Thank you for helping. >> I was watching him getting like IVs in his hands and [ __ ] and I was like, wait, is this going to be me at 70? And I Googled. I was like, is it is it [ __ ] hereditary? It is. >> There's no way Chad could have watched those needles going in, huh? >> I'm in that gym every [ __ ] day. >> Yeah, >> he would have passed out. >> I'm putting it on. >> Eat the protein. lift the weights. I got to go. I'm really tired. >> Sorry. Um, thank you everybody for joining us. We will be back next week. Again, send those questions one minute or shorter video format to the necessary conversation pot is hanging her head. Oh, you're doing the trunk. Nice. Uh, we'll be back next week hopefully with Bob. Thank you for joining us. >> Bye.