California Representative Gil Cisneros Joins Us To Discuss The Missing Epstein Client List

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. We have a special lineup today. My dad is not with us. He's preparing for another hip surgery. He's in pain. So, it's just going to be my mom representing the Trumpers in the family. My sister is here. Of course, I am here. And joining us is a very special guest representing California's 31st district, US Congressman Gil Cisneros. Thank you for being with us. >> No, pleasure. Thanks for having me. >> Please. The pleasure is all ours. Now, we usually start this show off with my mom does a little thing. She likes to call her diddies where she'll bring up one or two topics in politics and just kind of get our reactions to them. We have no idea what they are. Mom, do you have one for us today? >> Yes. And this is more of a serious one. Um, remember last week I did or two weeks prior I did Patriots of the week. >> So instead of a real diddy, I want to do the Patriots of the week. This week there's only >> Okay, >> don't laugh. There's only this is it. These are the only people that we could have picked this week to be patriots. True patriots. It's the individuals and the agencies that went to Kurville and started help immediately to save lives, to do everything they could in the midst of this big disaster. Um they are the patriots of this week, this month, this year, and years to come. I salute you 100%. Uh, I guess the first people of course would have been the police department right there in Kurville. Then the National Guard came in, then the US Coast Guard, and there was one man, his name was Scott Ruskin, and they said he himself alone was credited to saving 165 people early on. >> Wasn't that like his first >> kind of like big disaster that he ever helped with? I feel like I read somewhere in the news like this was his first kind of like action that he had ever taken. So, yeah. >> Yeah, I didn't read that, but for sure number one patriot right there. And then um the horse and dog rescuers came in too. And people forget about them all the time, but they helped save lives in so many ways and we salute all of them and and salute patriots of the week year and month and many years to come. >> All right. Fantastic. Uh, we usually do a question from a listener, but I'm not going to do that because I want to get to everything that we're trying to get to as we have once again Gil Cisneros with us. So, our first topic is, of course, the biggest news in the political realm, the Epstein list. This week, >> after years of right-wing conspiracy theories surrounding a sex trafficking client list believed to have been created and maintained by Jeffrey Epste, this week, the FBI and the DOJ announced there is in fact no Epstein list. The news sent shock waves through Trump's MAGA base who felt like they were betrayed by Trump and his loyalists. Deputy director of the FBI, conspiracy theorist podcaster Dan Bonino is rumored to be considering resignation over the fallout. And two of Trump's most important enforcers, AG Pam Bondi and FBI director Cash Patel have lost all credibility with right-wing influencers and thought leaders in the MAGA movement. In February, Bondi said in a Fox News interview that the Epstein list was sitting on her desk awaiting review. This week, she said it does not exist. Before becoming FBI director, Cash Patel called for the release of the Epstein's client list, accusing Congress of failing to obtain it. And now he too claims it does not exist. Trump's uh response to this, I don't know if you guys saw it, was a giant I can't read it all. I have it here. It's 5,000 words. I don't know how long this is, but it starts with this truth social post. What's going on with my boys and in some cases girls? He wrote it. No, you can't get mad at me. He literally wrote it. They're all going after attorney general Pam Bondi who's doing a all caps fantastic job. >> He calls himself uh having the in quotes perfect administration talk of the world. All this stuff he's basically trying to divert. So this is what's going on. Let me ask this question to all of us. We will start with Representative Cisneros. Does the Epstein client list exist in your mind? You know, it's hard to imagine that he wouldn't have a list of all these people that he had contact with and that he was kind of doing all these favors and and showing a good time to. Um, you know, the UK seems to have found that list and that's why uh, you know, Prince Andrew kind of got taken out of the official duties and everything, right? Because they had >> Yeah. >> info on him and what was going there. So, it's hard to imagine that there's not a list and and as you said, right, the attorney general said it was sitting on her desk. >> So, it miraculously disappeared, I guess. >> Mom, do you think there is a list? >> Yes, I do. And I do think there's inconsistencies with what Pam Bondi is saying and doing. >> Inconsistencies. She's literally contradicting herself. believe um I do believe uh Bonino a little bit more. I I trust him a little bit more. >> And so what >> and you know, isn't he saying if she doesn't resign, I'm out of here? That something's wrong. There's a big rift between them, right? >> Who knows? I I think there's going to be some fallout from this. Certainly, somebody's going to have to resign or get fired. I I mean, Trump is not going to take the hit for this. He never does. Somebody else will. >> But um you know, let's ask Haley. Do you think the the list exists? We all know it exists. We all know he's on it. Uh they made a big [ __ ] production with like all of these uh people on Tik Tok handing them giant [ __ ] binders full of Epstein files. >> There was an entire [ __ ] thing like you know circulating like, "Oh, it's going to come out. You're going to see." We know it exists. >> They're hiding it because he's [ __ ] on it. >> Okay, but can I say something? What about uh the theory that this was that he was hired within our government to trap other people in other uh countries, you know, to use against them to get information for us. What about that theory? >> Yeah, maybe. But the bottom line is everybody the whole a big push in the MAGA movement was this idea that Trump was going to come in there and be completely transparent about all of these different government conspiracy theories. Epstein is one of them. JFK, UFOs, all this stuff. >> Uhhuh. >> Right. >> None of that has happened. >> They have. Yeah. >> And in this case, it's not just they're not just like pushing the ball down the field. They're not just like, "Oh, we'll get to it. It's coming. It's coming." They literally now are saying it does not exist. And so the reason for that can really only be one of two things. One is it doesn't exist. Meaning the whole conspiracy theory was a lie. And everything they promised all of their voters, some of whom are very concerned about that one issue, never existed. they just did it to get your vote or B it does exist. He is on it. They are hiding it. But my question about that and we can start with Representative Cneros is if the list exists and they are just trying to hide it, why not put out a fake list that doesn't have his name on it? >> You know, I don't know. Um because there's probably I mean, look, there's probably a lot of people on this list, right? That >> Yeah. >> Are you on that list? No. I I never ever met >> Shots fired. >> Good. I'm glad you never met him. >> I mean, we know this guy was a bad guy, right? who did some horrible things. Um, >> the things he did to young ladies and exposed them to uh the, you know, the sex trafficking and everything was just horrible and bad and and so it is for me it is hard to imagine that he did not have some kind of list to kind of protect himself kind of in a way um to to keep him, you know, so that nobody came after him. >> Yeah. >> You know, that he wouldn't kind of like, hey, if this comes out, you're gonna go after me. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. Um, but it is I I I think there there has to be something out there, right? And I think for again, right, for the attorney general to say, "Oh, it's on my desk and I'm reviewing it right now." Um, is there, right? And look, I don't put it past Trump to kind of go and lie. I mean, to lie and do things there to say that a uh, you know, let's just get rid of the list. But as to why they would make a fake way why they wouldn't make a fake list, I don't know. >> The the whole they're all [ __ ] liars. There's also a part of this where Pam Bondi like was in a press conference about the Epstein files and they asked her about the recording of him in prison and why there's a whole minute of footage missing. >> More [ __ ] lies. Like they're literally just it's perpetual lies one after the other. We know Donald Trump is on that list. Okay, here's here's what I I have another theory. If he is on the list, let's say if he is, wouldn't they have thrown this out there early on before he was ever running and elected? Wouldn't Wouldn't the Democrats somehow dug deep, found it, and just plastered it all over the New York Post or whatever? Why haven't they >> Would it would it have made a difference to you because he's 34 time convicted felon and that doesn't matter to you? Yes, it would. >> He's been accused of sexual assault and that doesn't matter to you. >> Yes, it does. Stop it. So why does this >> would have made a difference? All I'm saying, if it's really there, Democrats would have dug deep, found it, and showed us. No one showed us. I >> I do agree with what >> and I think there's a lot of people on that list. I don't think it's not just it wasn't just a list of Donald Trump. Um >> yeah, >> you know, >> so a lot of people >> there are Democrats and Republicans that associate >> Oh, >> there's a lot of people that are >> you know for and I don't know why it never came out earlier or what it was or there but the thing is it wasn't like they had this list >> before he was arrested either. Right. >> Yeah. >> So, >> exactly. >> You know, it wasn't really out there before. >> I agree with what you're saying. It's not just Republicans. I I'm always taken back in my mind to the information that we all now know that when you walked into the main house on the Epstein island, the first thing you saw was a giant oil painting of Bill Clinton in a dress. And that painting, in my opinion, Bill Clinton was a a frequent guest of that island. That painting, I think, was Epstein basically saying like, I own you. I can do anything I want because I have so much blackmail against you and whoever else was on that island. And I think it was it served as kind of like a reminder to anybody who showed up there that's like this is what I do when you come here. This can happen to you. I can do a painting of you in a dress. I can do anything I want. And so I do think that uh you know there are Republicans and Democrats on that list alike. They all stand to lose a great deal potentially their freedom if that list comes out. Um let me ask this question. We will start again with Representative Cneros. Whether this client list is real or not, what do you think is the damage done to the MAGA movement? Steve Bannon just came out a couple days ago and said he thinks this is going to bleed off 10% of the MAGA voters. >> Well, you know, it's a loss in credibility, right? It's you say you're going to do this and Donald Trump said he was going to release the list. It was going to get done. And obviously, if there was no list, um, you know, why why even ever say that, right? And uh you know he he fed into this conspiracy theory. >> Yeah. >> If it is a fact, a conspiracy theory, right? That there was no that there is a list and and he he got people rallied around it and then just to say like oh you know what there is no list and it it's just you lose a lot of credibility with people in there. And I think that you're right. You know, people who are going to take you at your word for this or that and then you kind of tell them like, "Oh, you know what? By the way, um there was no list that it's gone." It's you you can't feed into something, right? And continually feeding into this that there is a list, there is a list and then got to be like, "Oh, there isn't without losing that credibility." So, I think they are going to lose some people. >> I I have a question about the madam lady. Isn't she still alive? That she has lane. >> Yeah, >> she's she is alive in prison, right? >> Why don't we ask her questions? >> I I mean, I'm sure they do. And I'm sure she's like I'm saying nothing. I mean, look, I I I think we can all agree >> in terms of Epstein's death. At at the very least, it's suspicious. I don't know if he was murdered. Maybe he committed suicide. Those are our two options here. Um, I think, you know, she's probably looking at that and being like, >> "Yeah, not saying [ __ ] I don't care, you know, like I don't want to die." >> Yeah. What if somebody gets her next? Yeah. You never know. That's sad. >> You know, the whole thing about that, too, right? It's like somebody who's on suicide watch to kind of not be watched so that he can commit suicide, right? >> And it makes you ask questions. >> A lot of questions. And now the footage, a whole minute is missing. >> Yeah. >> In [ __ ] video. Come on. I also saw there was um some computer forensics done on the file and it had been edited in Adobe Premiere which is just like kind of a consumer grade uh video editing software that everyone uses. That isn't to say that you know they edited it necessarily. It just had a a stamp as having come from that software. So maybe they just imported it for some reason and then exported it to I don't know. >> But uh there are definitely strange circumstances surrounding that file specifically. Mom though, let me ask you this. Bannon again says 10% of the MAGA base is going to hemorrhage off because of this. Are you part of that? Will you still vote for Trump? How important is this issue to you as a MAGA voter? >> Does it make you question other [ __ ] >> It makes me It makes me question Yes, it does. >> It makes you question other [ __ ] that they maybe have been lying about. >> There's too many inconsistencies with this story for me. Yes. that I've read, that I've heard on TV, that I've, you know, got on my AI, looked around. A lot of inconsistencies with this story. It's I don't know. How do we find the answers? >> So, will you question other things in the future? Like if if Trump says something and then, >> you know, you don't feel right about it and it seems kind of suspicious, would you question it? >> Depends on what the topic is. But you know, someone's lying here in the the hierarchy of the Trump pantheon. It's either Trump, it's Pam Bondi, it's Cash Patel, it's Dan Bonino, who all the names that are getting thrown around in association with this. You know, one of them minimum. I mean, Pam Bondi literally lied. We We saw her Yes. >> on TV saying I have the files and then saying the files don't exist. One of those is a lie. She is lying to you directly. >> Yes. >> I can only assume that order is being given by Trump. She's not just out there shooting from the hip. But wait, out of your mouth, I've heard before all politicians lie. Is that not correct? >> Yes. That doesn't make it right. No, it doesn't. >> You use that as like this catchall like, "Yeah, whatever. They all do it." But it's like they shouldn't, you know? Um, >> yes. This makes me question other things probably. Yes, it does. >> Okay. Interesting. Um, this week also it was revealed around this case that Cash Patel is making people do lie detector tests in the FBI to prove loyalty to him. Did you read this part of this story? all this epine stuff is going down and so there are now people in the FBI that like he feels he can't trust which means maybe they will leak the real list. I'm not sure. Cash Patel I think is uh essentially a pawn in this whole thing. I don't think he has enough power or clout to make any decisions on his own. So when Trump says there is no list, he says there is no list and now I need to make sure everybody in my FBI is kind of like tightened up. So who's loyal to me? He's now forcing FBI agents to come in and take lie detector tests with questions like, "Have you ever said anything negative about me?" >> Wow. Wow. >> Mom, do you think the FBI should be run like that? >> Well, you've got to know who's loyal to your ass and who isn't, I guess. >> Holy [ __ ] Okay. >> You have to know who's on board with you. >> Yeah. Representative Cisneros, have you ever had to take a lie detector test in Congress to prove loyalty to your party? >> No. No. And you never should have to take, >> you know, your loyalty is supposed to be to the Constitution, not to an individual. >> Yeah. >> This is true. >> You know, if he's doing this, that's obviously he's worried because he's not on the up and up. >> And he's kind of, like you said, projecting these false negatives or whatever that Trump is making him do. And so he's he's wor I would be worried too if I was saying stuff that was probably not true all the time and and worried about people exposing me um for the lies that I'm telling. >> Yeah, I agree. I I think there is this is just kind of my two cents on this whole Epstein thing. when you are like basing a a major part of your platform on conspiracy theory, eventually if you win, you're now put in a position where the public believes you have the power to expose the truth about this conspiracy. So either the truth is too bad for Trump to expose it will personally put him in some kind of uh bad liability situation or the truth is it never existed in the first place. Either way, >> there is, I think, irreparable damage now done to the MAGA base because of a conspiracy theory. That is wild to me that this is the thing that might finally crack through. You mom even said yourself, you're now questioning Trump for the first time ever in your life, right? >> Well, there's there's way too many. It's making me wonder truths, not truths, what's going on. Yeah. >> God, I I just never thought it would be like the Epstein list is the thing that does it. But it does seem like at least this week, and I know the news cycle moves fast and there'll be some other big new shiny thing they throw at us next week, but for right now, it seems like there are some people who are super pissed about this who like this to them was maybe a central issue of why they even voted for Trump in the first place. And it may do real damage to, >> you know, I I hesitate to say the Republican party, but like the MAGA movement within the Republican party. >> I want to see the Kennedy files, too, and understand all of that. Well, we live >> we live in a culture where people feed on like salacious [ __ ] you know, and they really [ __ ] wanted that list. We really wanted to see who was on that because it's it is salacious, you know? They they want it. Like, people thrive on on drama. That's why half the country voted for Donald Trump. I mean, like, they like the [ __ ] and so they wanted it. And I think a lot of people now are like, "Well, I'm not going to get that." And I'm mad. >> But it's also antithetical to his whole thing is there are these rich elites for whom the law operates differently. They are above any kind of reproach. And now he's in that position and he's like, I'm going to expose all these elites. And he's like, "Oh, wait. I am one of them." >> No, it's >> I mean I think >> Say what? Mom, did you say something? What's going on over here? >> I'm going to say somehow we will find this out, right? >> I think it goes further than just >> We're never gonna find it out. Yeah, >> it goes further than a li. There's footage. There's all kinds of photos. There's videos of this [ __ ] Like at some point, someone is There has to be some kind of like insideformant, some kind of [ __ ] FBI agent that knows all this [ __ ] that's going to spill it. Like there's more than a list. >> Yeah. And and Haley to to your point right I think um you know we have this there are this this group of people right that like they are really into the fact about conspiracy theories >> whether it be UFOs or whether it be Kennedy >> um and so many other things uh you know Obama's birth certificates um right >> and these were things that Donald Trump really kind of fed into right that hey we're going to get down in this we're going to get we're gonna we're going to expose it. You know, we're still waiting for the pillow guy to come out with his exposing the the 2020 election and and and everything, but you know, he feeds into this, right? The you know, Donald Trump has has fed into this and and people have bought on to because they think like, okay, finally someone's going to tell us the truth and give us everything that we need to know. And you know, it it's he's basically like letting them down right now, right there. So I think it is going to make a difference. >> It's it's a lot of a lot of vulnerable people who were grifted and are now part of this cult mentality that like you know he can do no wrong but at some point everyone has a threshold. >> Everyone has like that ceiling where like oh that's [ __ ] wrong. Now you start to question things. And I hope that this is the I hope that this is the catalyst for his [ __ ] manga downfall. I hope that half of his fan base just kind of falls by the wayside because they realize he's a liar. >> It it certainly >> it's not gonna fall by the wayside. I believe Dan Bonini Bonino Bonini Ioni for some reason. I trust him. I don't know why. I trust him. >> Bonino. >> John Bonjobi. >> And he is against he's against Pam Bondi because he said if she doesn't go he will. So there's a riff there. Of course there is. But the the bottom line is like this always happens. This happened in the first era of Trump. You had a bunch of his cabinet members infighting. I remember Rex Tillerson got in there and was like, "What the [ __ ] Bye." He just like bailed instantaneously. >> This always happens with Trump. The the main thing though is can we get to Trump? Will this take him down? And that reaction that tweet that he or the truth social post that he did that is like 10,000 words long was wild. That's the most flustered I've ever seen one of his posts, >> brother. And then he he followed it up with the Rosie O'Donnell [ __ ] Like he's unhinged like unhinged. >> He doesn't want her back. >> Well, he's already trying to defect, right? That, you know, to to like get to another subject and get away from this. So, it's like, >> yeah, >> yeah. Is a a minister to the country to take away her citizenship. >> She doesn't even live here. She already live here. She lived in Ireland. She's been in Ireland for like 10 years or some [ __ ] >> but she said she would come back if he leaves her alone or whatever. >> Yeah. Well, we'll see. Maybe she'll get that wish. Let's move on to our next topic. The Texas floods and FEMA. This week, reporting by the New York Times revealed that huge numbers of calls from Texas flood victims in dire need of assistance to FEMA went unanswered because of a new policy implemented by DHS Secretary Christy Gnome. FEMA's disaster assistance hotline fi uh fielded 3,027 calls on July 5th, replying to 99.7% of them. But after call center contracts lapsed on July 5th, only 846 of 2363 calls, roughly 35.8% were answered on July 6th and just 2,613 of 16,419 calls, roughly 15.9% on July 7th. Uh because of these contract lapses, the person responsible for this catastrophe was Christy Nome. She initiated a new policy requiring any spending over $100,000 to require her personal approval, which resulted in staff contracts remaining expired until July 10th, which eliminated a large number of personnel who would have answered those calls. On Fox News, Gnome dismissed the criticism as trash, not only defending the delay, but shifting blame to local officials for response shortcomings. Mom, you uh gave your your patriot of the week to a person down there who's just taking it into their own hands to go out and rescue people. Do you think Christy Gnome is at fault for this? Should she resign? >> No. No way. I watched her this morning on Meet the Press. >> Oh god. >> Being drilled by um oh gosh, what's the lady's name? The pretty one with the black hair. Anyway, she was drilled and questions were thrown at her left and right. >> Uhhuh. >> She said as soon as Texas asked for help, it was there. The federal government was there as quickly as they can. She said all of these accusations right now about what you just brought up, the phone calls not made and all that that they weren't answering the phone. She said completely false. The response time was immediate within two hours. Uh FEMA was there. She was there within an hour. I think FEMA was there. Coast Guard was there. Border Patrol was there. Request was put in immediately and they were there. She said, "This is fake news." That's exact words. >> Okay. So, you deny it completely. Now, remember Pam Bondi told you she had the Epstein files on her desk. Now, they don't exist. Do you believe Christy Gnome could be lying here? >> That's Pam Bondi. >> Okay. Uh, Representative Cisneros, do you think uh that there should be some kind of repercussion for Christy Gnome in the situation? >> Look, I I I think the Mexican uh government sent people down there before FEMA did help out and assist. >> I I still don't know that FEMA's down there from what I'm hearing, >> right? >> But look, you know, you can't micromanage and ignore your job at the same time, which is exactly what she's doing, right? she is traveling the country travel you know why the hell she had needs to travel the world as the uh you know the head of homeland security um is is beyond me right but she needs to stay here she needs to do her job and and you can't micromanage you know down to like a $100,000 that people do there's people there that they're hired there to do a job you got to let them do their job and when you try and micromanage everything this is what happens um again another liar You can't trust anybody who shoots their dog. Um, sorry. I just don't believe anything she says. >> That's a fair point. >> I completely agree, Mom. That her shooting the dog, which she I mean kind of proudly came out and said this in her book. Uh, that to me I thought was going to be the line too far. You live your whole life currently around your dog, her medical needs, her, you know, need to go out to pee. You did it right before the show. You had to take a couple minutes to let her out. and that had no effect on you whatsoever. >> Okay, I'm not gonna address that. Completely the fifth. >> I what she said she also said and I believe this. Too many people are playing politics over this horrific disaster. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. >> Hang on. Hang on. The people mom, hang on. Let me stop you. Let me Hey, wait. Wait, let me stop you. Do you remember when the wildfires out here in California were tearing apart and just sundering entire communities >> and Trump blamed it on the governor and the local city officials for not clearing out the brush. Do you remember that? >> And having no water. >> Was that in that moment you didn't care if they turned a natural disaster into playing politics. You were in fact in support of it on his side. But now it's the opposite. Why is that? I'm not saying it's the opposite in natural should have everyone should have help. >> That is not what you said during the California wildfires. You and dad both sat there and said people will get what they deserve. Your government sucks. That's why this is happening. They weren't prepared. >> Well, I don't like you living in California. We've discussed this. >> Okay, that's not what we're talking about. What I'm saying is you have that attitude about California back when that's happening. a giant natural disaster, which of course is no single human being's fault. Could things have been managed better here or there? Maybe. Who knows? But you blamed >> water when there's a fire. Let's just put it. >> I agree. You blamed it on Gavin Newsome. >> So did dad. Now you're saying these floods are happening in Texas. Don't blame the government. Christy Gnome is I saw her on Meet the Press. She's not lying. I don't like when it turns political. So why is that happening now? But when the California wildfires were happening, you guys were happy to blame that on the governor of our state. >> I guess your governor was not prepared for all of you to have that fire. There was no water. >> You guys also said you also said that they didn't deserve FEMA's help and that they should do it themselves as a state. >> I did not say that. Your dad did. He's not here to defend himself. I'm sorry. >> Okay. So, you believe FEMA should exist still? I think it should exist and work with the federal government altogether. Like >> FEMA is the federal government. >> I mean funds from Trump if more money is needed. >> Okay. >> There are people and they won't say their names right now with these attacks that are saying during this loss of life pinning it trying to pin it on Trump. >> Uhuh. >> They won't come forward. But you're you're saying like you're saying that the federal government should be using FEMA to give money where it's needed. You you do know as we talked about last week, they took $450 million a year out of FEMA to build and maintain alligator Alcatraz, >> right? >> Do you think that money might be better used right now in Texas? >> I have no idea. The states though, the states can step up with money and so can individuals. I've seen all kinds of individuals give money also. >> Okay. So you don't think that >> sorry to replace $450 million by any individual. It's that that's that's a big big call it >> by any even by any state. That's a a a big chunk of cash for them to kind of pull out of their budget that's just not money like that lying around. Right. This is why we need the federal government these things. And you know, and and look, some of that brush stuff, a lot of it was on federal land that the federal government didn't clear. >> Um, some of it, you know, I think we know now, right, that it was started by a uh I think one of them was Southern California Edison kind of had a spark or something and one of their transformers or something that started it. Um it's just it is yeah I I mean FEMA has to be there to kind of you know pop in and whether it's hurricanes on the east coast fires in California flooding in Texas it it's there to kind of help in need you know during that time when it's needed and the federal government's the only one that could really has the ability to kind of help out with that kind of support when it's needed when you need >> to empower the states right but the state should have money to help too, right? >> Well, the states do and they do, right? But it it's I think to have any state to kind of pull out of their budget like a couple billion dollars to like go and help a national or or tragedy is just it's a big it's a big expense and a big, you know, a big call on any state for that to kind of be able to kind of do that. But for fe so FEMA needs to be overhauled though because what about the stories in was it North Carolina where if you had a Trump sign out front that you know this is maybe just a story maybe fake news but if a sign was out front with Trump's name they would go around it and not go to that up to that house. So should FEMA be overhauled? Right. >> That's fake. Mom. >> Yeah. >> And be held more accountable. >> That's not real. >> Okay. We'll see. I don't know. That's >> the Epstein list. Um, >> yeah. Right. >> Let me ask you this, Representative Cisneros. Is there any talk in Congress about how Christine Nome is handling this? Are other members of Congress that you're having conversations with appalled by it? Do they think business as usual? What's the attitude? >> Well, no, like I think there's a lot of people upset with how she's handling things, right? And it's not even just this, but even before, right? You know, she's going around, you know, she's Ice Barbie, right? She's going around. she came here into California >> talking about how the the city was on fire and devastation everywhere and you know how she needed she was coming to liberate the people of Los Angeles. It's all it's all a bunch of [ __ ] right, that she's kind of putting out there, right? So, there's a lot of people in Congress that are kind of >> out there, right? And again, too, like I mentioned earlier, it's like >> she she's this woman is obsessed with being on television and and projecting an image of herself, right? Rather than actually focusing on doing the job that needs to get done. >> Yeah, >> that's the whole cabinet, though, right? We're all bunch of reality stars. is the same way. That guy is he's more about putting out videos than he actually is about running the Department of Defense. >> You know, you're right. A lot of them are like that. >> Uh let's move on. We have reached the midpoint of this show. We usually do a thing on the show called the simmer down, but I don't even know if we need to simmer down. This has been very cordial. Maybe because it's dad is not here. Maybe that's the reason. I don't know. But nonetheless, >> I need to explain real quick what's wrong with him because people are going to get upset because they think they like him, I think. But then some of them don't like him. Anyway, he had a year ago he had a hip replacement. That hip's great. >> Then about 10 days ago, he's going, "Uhoh, my other one's hurting." So he goes back to the doctor. The doctor shoots it with a steroid. >> Did not use an X-ray machine. They usually put up a X-ray machine and say, "Oh, it's right there. Boom. There goes a steroid. That doctor asked, "Dad," where does it hurt? He pointed. Boom. In went the steroid. Two days later, your dad couldn't walk. We're on day 11. I called four times back to the doctor. I said, "This is not right. Something's not right." First words were, "Suck it up, buttercup." Next words were, "Get back to PT." Next words, "This is normal. Keep walking." On the fifth call, I think finally he said, "I'll see him if you bring in an MRI." So, we went and got the MRI. just got the results now and the doctor also received them and called me within 45 minutes. The ball um at the top of the femur is crumbling. The tendon and ligament underneath has rips in it and tears. >> Wow. >> So, suck it up, buttercup. Keep walking. And that's what he tried to do. So, he's in great pain. We have a doctor appointment Tuesday. Hopefully get that fixed with the robotic uh robotic surgeries are going to do on him, I think. >> Yeah. Hopefully that goes well. And >> yes, for sure. >> Uh the sad that he's not here because on this very podcast, my dad one time called himself or likened himself to Superman. And so the topic I was going to bring up is have you seen Superman yet? Anyone? Haley, >> I have. >> I have seen it too. Mom, have you seen it? >> No, I have not. >> Representative Cisneros, have you seen it? >> I saw it. Yes. >> Okay. So, we can have a interesting conversation about this. made $210 million opening weekend, almost half the price of Alligator Alcatraz. Um, >> stop it. >> It is I I I don't think there's any argument to be made here >> other than or or against the fact that this is an anti-Trump movie. >> Lex Luthther is 100% Donald Trump. It is about immigration. It is about, you know, seeing brown people as the other. It's about all of these kind of, you know, woke ideals, I guess. And the internet is kind of talking about, oh, [ __ ] it. It's woke. It doesn't matter. It made $210 million opening weekend. It's the the biggest opening weekend this year. It's a massive success. Uh, so my question, I guess, about this is, do you think that that like political messaging in it has anything to do with the success or is it just it's a big James Gun Superman movie? Representative Cisneros. >> You know, I I'm I I agree with you, right? the messaging in there, right, was in there and things and I was actually glad you said that because I was kind of thinking like, well, is this is this what I'm seeing here in that? >> Oh, yeah. It's definitely what you're seeing. Me too%, you know, you could have called Lex Luthther Donald Trump and it would have been the same. >> No difference. But, um, >> I uh I don't know. I I still think people kind of like see Superman superhero movie and maybe that was it. I don't think people really kind of knew the plot yet or what it was about kind of going that opening weekend, but >> um so I I will kind of, you know, go with the side of like, hey, it's just it's >> it's a Superman movie. Uh you know, Warner Brothers has been promoting the hell out of it and and that's why uh you know, people went >> I disagree. So, I'll go watch like superhero movies and [ __ ] you know, and and one of my kids was begging me to go and like my husband wanted to go. I was like, I don't want to [ __ ] see another Superman movie. And then I read a review. >> And I read that it was woke as [ __ ] and that it was addressing like the political climate today and I said, "Holy [ __ ] I want to see that." So, I was directly affected by knowing uh that it was about [ __ ] that's happening today. >> And I love the Christopher Reeves Superman one and two. >> Um it's nostalgic for me, >> but this is easily my favorite >> Superman movie to date. >> I was I didn't anticipate walking into this and like really loving it and I was blown away. The casting was like [ __ ] phenomenal. >> Um, the act there was comedy, like there was good action, but like the [ __ ] message was real, you know, and he has that monologue at the end where he's like, I might be a [ __ ] alien from another planet, but ultimately I am human like you. And and Lex Luthther, you know, in that moment, like you see him as Donald Trump, and he's like my my hope is that you would be too, but you know, so it was like there was this monologue at the end that really [ __ ] touched people, I think. in the whole movie. Uh, so many parallels. Like so many parallels. >> Yeah. >> You can't walk out of that and not see that this is what's happening today. >> Like I said, I have not seen it. But why do we have to take a kids movie like Superman and make it political? >> Why is it why is it a kids movie? Who said it was a kids movie? >> Superman is a kids movie in my mind. >> I mean, you could take your kid to it. There's maybe one moment of kind of depending on how old your kid is, violence that is maybe a little dice. Man's always been a kids movie. The superhero, the strong man. >> No, I mean they >> not the woke person. >> It's not >> not the illegal. >> We always have to make things political. Now we're doing it with >> Just to let you know, you haven't seen this movie yet, Mom. But I know >> I will say this. Whether um No, you don't have to be quiet. I'm just saying you're like [ __ ] on this movie you haven't even seen. >> Well, but uh >> Okay. >> I will say whether you go to it for the political commentary or not, it's in there. And if you are going to it with your family or your friends or whatever to see a kids movie or superhero movie, you're going to leave that theater whether you know it or not with some [ __ ] implanted in your brain, right? where it's going to get to people and the the amount of money it's making, the amount of people that are seeing this. To me, it was just like it was a good reminder uh that art because I think for a long time, especially popular art, movies, music, TV shows, and stuff have just been like apolitical because they're afraid of pissing off this side or that side and then people won't see my movie or whatever. And this was just a good reminder that it's like if it's done well, you can just sneak it in and it's right there and everybody's going to see it. And there may be Trump people that are like ignoring it. It's not about that. Whatever, whatever. But even he's kind of his his ruffles are feathered or his feathers are ruffled about this. Trump, I mean, to some degree. I read something saying like he's pissed that the movie >> anti like the the day that it dropped [ __ ] White House official had an AI generated image of him as Superman. >> I saw that. >> Okay. >> I saw that. >> He is the crying Lex Luthther at the end. He's the [ __ ] baby at the end. Like you can't >> all about making money. >> And and I'm sure they didn't see the movie first or read anything about it right before they made that image. And I'm sure uh you know there there's going to be a point where he comes out and talks about how it's like the worst Superman movie ever. >> 100% 100%. >> He's going to try to to deport James Gun next. >> I actually think you'd like it, Mom. They have a dog in it. Krypto is in it and he's pretty [ __ ] cute. I think you'd like the movie politics. >> It's a great movie. Like I think you will be able to Your suspension of disbelief will not be that Superman is real or he can fly or has superpowers. it will be that it is not about Donald Trump, >> right? I think you'd actually like it. >> Okay. Uh let's move on to our next topic. Trump versus the Supreme Court. In late January 2025, the Supreme Court ruled in the 63 decision that Trump has to stop deportations of undocumented immigrants without due process, but they kept doing it. A whistleblower has recently alleged that Emil Bove, Trump's top DOJ official nominated to the Third Circuit, ordered lawyers to ignore federal judge's injunction halting deportations and also told them basically to say [ __ ] off or [ __ ] you or something. I forget the exact wording. April 10th, the Supreme Court unanimously voted to uphold a lower court's decision forcing Trump to facilitate Abrigo Garcia's return to the US. It took them 58 days to comply with that order. These are just a few of the transgressions by Trump against the legislative branch of our government. Um, I want to ask you this, Representative Cisneros, in Congress, when you're talking to your colleagues, how dire is that situation that Trump is openly ignoring the entire legislative branch of our government? >> Well, I think on the Democratic side, it's definitely dire, right? that he is >> um from everything like you to not only ignoring the court decisions, right, but ignoring the appropriations um you know money that Congress has appropriated to spend whether it be on USA ID, the Department of Education and other areas of the of the federal government that he's just like freezing, you know, grants and everything that have already been appropriated by Congress that were signed into law and he's just saying, "No, we're not going to do that we're going to I'm going to hold off. I'm going to freeze. Um it's it's a big concern and I don't think it's hard to imagine that the founding fathers ever really kind of you know you like to think that they prepared or kind of thought of everything but to have an an actual uh you know leader that was going to just ignore the rule of law. Um it's just I don't think they ever thought of that. Right. I don't think I ever thought about it. Right. It's like, you know, if the courts say this, this is the way our government, right? Okay, we have to go by the court. And if you don't agree with it, appeal the decision. >> That's the way it's always been. And they're just, no, we're just going to ignore it, >> you know? >> And seemingly without any repercussion like I guess that's my next question to you is like is is there anything Congress can do to enforce >> well? And that is the thing is is that I think they realize or they've kind of come to this is that you know the executive branch right is the enforcer of the law. Congress p Congress passes the laws. Congress says this is what needs to be done. The president signs it into law but then he's also the executor of the laws. He's the one that's supposed to make sure that they're carried out. >> Yeah. >> And and he's just not he's not doing that part. Right. he's not living up to his responsibility under the Constitution of what he's supposed to do and and just doing whatever the hell he, you know, he he feels like he needs to do, whatever the [ __ ] he wants. It's just it is, you know, and look, there's a lot of court cases that he's losing a lot of these court cases. >> Sure. >> You know, the vast majority of them, which is why he's kind of up in arms is we're just not going to do it. We're going to ignore it. Um, Haley, how long do you think he can do this kind of openly defy the legislative branch before there is some admittance from like mainstream media that we are no longer living in a democracy? >> I mean, for us it's it was [ __ ] yesterday. But for >> but we're not mainstream media. I'm talking about like when I'm watching Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, none of them are saying, "Well, we're living in a dictatorship now." But we are. I mean that's effectively >> right >> what is happening and and my question really is like how much more of this will have to happen. We have essentially Gestapo running through MacArthur Park here in LA. Um nobody seems to be saying we're living in a dictatorship now but we are. >> I don't think it will I don't think it will ever come from right-wing media ever. >> But even left-wing media isn't really saying that rate today. Yeah. I mean, yeah, like you've not seen CNN come out and say like there's a concentration camp in Florida. Um, they're still using the verbiage to like kind of downplay it. Uh, detention center or, you know, >> um, >> I don't know. I think it's going to take like that particular scenario. I think it might take like murdering people on site like like us witnessing the murder of [ __ ] people at that concentration camp >> because at that point you can't ignore what's going on there. Right now you can push aside that there's maggots in their food that they have no clean water that there's 34 people in a [ __ ] kennel basically with no running AC and it's flooding. like people can kind of push that aside, but when we start seeing bodies >> and death, like can you ignore that anymore? Can we now call it a concentration camp? >> Um, ICE is kidnapping people off the streets right [ __ ] now. >> It's happening right now. That is the gestapo. >> Is it go I think it's going to literally take death, >> you know? It's going to take them [ __ ] killing people in the streets instead of kidnapping until the news starts saying what it is. Yeah. >> Before it happens at what you call a concentration camp, which is not. It's going to happen when the people in the street start. Don't stop throwing the rocks. They're throwing the rocks. They're coming at the ice people. Soon Ice will get out of those vehicles and that's when the confrontation is going to start and then it'll be sad. Well, >> then somebody they already are coming out of the vehicles. They are, he said, kind of going they're, you know, they're they're masked individuals. They're not saying who they are. They're rounding up people. They're rounding up people that look like me. There's no there's no white people in in this in any of these ICE facilities. There's there's no white people over there at Alligator Alcatraz. They're they're all, you know, people of color. There's a report Steven Miller's plan to to, you know, make this country white again is what he wants to do. >> Yeah. It's all Project 2025 is coming to fruition and all these during [ __ ] elections. I kept telling you, I need you to read Project 2025. Go [ __ ] look at what that says. It's all coming to fruition. I thought I thought our plan was to make this country safe again because the border had been open for four years and let drug smugglers in. Uh people that were in other prisons in other countries. Uh the sex trafficking people came in. We lost 300,000 babies. Where the hell are they? Oh, wait. They're in that they're in the marijuana camp that they just busted. >> What? >> Uh there was a 14year-old in there working and some of them, you know, with no support. no help, living with no one. I bet they're working in there to make the money to get back to the cartel that allowed them to come across. >> Well, that was a the marijuana camp, I guess, that they did, right? Was actually a legal kind of camp, >> right? They busted it. >> Regular it was a legal cannabis farm that was there >> and there were 14 children working there. That was this week. >> Well, that I I don't look I I have a problem with our whole agricultural thing anyway. Right. that actually does allow children to work >> on on you know out in in farms and stuff like that and they kind of do that. you know, there is no well, you can't go out and like uh, you know, the child labor laws don't protect children on on agricultural things, right? They can go out there and like work on fields and things like that, >> picking, you know, picking the the various agricultural crops. And there's a lot of people that, you know, I know that that that did that kind of growing up as children >> helping and you know, but the thought was to kind of go and to help and support their family because they kind of had to do it as a collective unit to kind of work together in order to support the family. Um, but I I think it is something like if we could actually start paying them livable wages, then maybe we could get the children out of the the field so they wouldn't have to work there. But what about your mayor that just stated she's going to give them everyone free money? All the illegals. She wants to give illegals free money. It I've read it three different places. >> She's not my mayor, but I haven't heard the mayor of LA. >> Mayor of LA. I just saw it on the news. It was on big news station. >> I didn't see that. Um I I do want to get to this point, Haley, that you brought up, which is the conditions at Alligator Alcatraz. That was going to be one of our next topics. They um CBS News had an interview with this regone artist named Limzy La Figura and he basically said there's no water to take a bath. It's been 4 days since I've taken a bath. They only brought a meal once a day and it has maggots. They never take off the lights for 24 hours. The mosquitoes are as big as elephants. Further reporting is claiming that the detainees were not given toothbrushes or toothpaste. The toilets don't flush and when you do, they flood the whole place with [ __ ] water. There is heat and bug infestations throughout the compound, frequent and abrupt outages in air conditioning. Um, Mom, I know that you are heavily against any immigrants. Do you think this is how any people should be treated? >> No. And I'm not against immigrants. I want them to come into our country the correct way. Like my grandmother came through Ellis Island. You have to give your name, what occupation you're going to do, where you're going to go, so we know where they went. That's the way my family has done it through the >> Hang on. You're saying that and that's a lie because when we tell you about ICE raids happening at courouses where people are showing up >> to go through their immigration process legally. They have appointments. They have their documents. They're ready to do whatever the next step in their process is. And ICE yanks them out of the courthouse and throws them in a van. You say that's correct. That should be happening. You can't say both things. >> But no, that is not correct. And you know where I think we have fouled up or this administration has >> the people that have records that are felons that have not done their due if they have been arrested. Those are the people that need to be gone, >> which is what we're trying to tell you. Like, yes, there are there are some there are some bad people who have crossed the border. We acknowledge that, but there are also just brown people being arrested. >> You're saying you don't want anybody because of the color of their skin >> because they're Latino. >> You're saying you don't want anybody grabbed? >> No, I don't want innocent people being thrown in [ __ ] concentration camps. >> Neither do I. Why would I want that? >> ICE is raiding businesses. Okay. People who work and pay taxes are being taken to concentration camps. >> Okay, I know you're not going to believe this and you're going to call me a liar. Your father and I have given some clothes, some money to some people here that walked across the river. We know where they're at. We are helping them out. So don't think that we are scum of the earth. Okay? >> What does it have to do with anything that we're talking about? >> I'm trying to I'm trying to help right here. I'm trying to explain to you that in your mind like you think that all of these immigrants are rapists and they're bringing drugs. >> Most of them are not. ICE is arresting normal [ __ ] people off the streets. Pregnant women, children with leukemia, people from their businesses, people showing up to court to get their papers. ICE is arresting normal [ __ ] people just trying to make it here >> in what they thought was a great country. >> Get round, you know, they came after some people like in my district that were just, you know, went on their lunch break while they were working. um kind of walking over to like, you know, like a little store, the convenience store to like, you know, grab soda, grab a water, a little snack, and they just stopped them as they were kind of there. Right. These are people who are working, right? Are they're kind of doing just trying to live and make a better life for themselves. >> Did they arrest them? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, they did. Of course they did. They're arresting They're arresting US citizens. >> And where are they now? >> Well, who knows? They're like in camps. And that was one of the things when we went to an ice facility, they wouldn't let me in, which is my as a member of Congress, I have the right to go into any ICE facility. Now, they're trying to put like restrictions and limitations saying that we have to give a notice and stuff like that, which is against the law um because they can't do that. I can't I can should be able to show, but they wouldn't let me in. We ran into a gentleman who was looking for his nephew. Hadn't heard from him for four days, you know, when we were there. They're not letting them get make their call. They're they're not reading them their rights. They're not doing anything. Uh you know, and then the uh the the head of ICE or the I whatever the hell that guy's name is. Um I can't even think of it. Um >> yeah, it's just saying that well, yeah, they you know, they have the ability and and and they're able to go and do that, right? But they don't under the law have the ability just to go round up people and take them and and do whatever the hell they want. Um, >> so in these situations like especially with Alligator Alcatraz and all the stuff you're talking about, >> laws are very clearly being broken. >> What is the repercussion? Is there anything that will happen as a result of this? Is this situation ever going to be corrected? >> Well, I think you need here's you need the Republicans in Congress to grow grow backbone and kind of say like, hey, this is enough. Enough is enough. >> We can't allow this to happen anymore. But as long as they allow them to keep doing it, um there is no repercussion to kind of stop it. >> Well, I mean, they just beefed they just beefed up the bill to [ __ ] fund this [ __ ] by like how much? $400 million. >> Yeah, they got they got ISIS is going to have a bigger budget in the Marine Corps now. >> This [ __ ] isn't going to stop. Would this not make people who are not legal afraid and they would self-epport and go back to the country that they came from? >> I if I it would make me scared. >> You know what I'm saying? That's what that that's what they're saying. Self-deport wherever. That's but that's another thing that's going on that they're saying that you know the individual said is that they are torturing people to make them self-epport you know >> capturing them >> and also like think about if you are one of these people think about if you're in this country you don't have your papers you've been here for some amount of time maybe your family's here whatever the case may be and they're telling you self-epportigator so what does self-deportation look like I have to walk into an ICE office I have to call ICE and say I'm ready to selfport support. I'm like, that doesn't seem like a good option cuz I would think they're going to show up, put me in zip ties, and throw me in [ __ ] Alligator Alcatraz. I don't know anybody who would be like self-deporting necessarily. But my question to you, Representative Cisneros, is they're they're committing these crimes and you're saying the Republicans have to grow a spine and say you can't do this anymore. Let's say that happens. Then what? I feel like that's not going to do anything either. >> Well, then I I think it's, you know, then you kind of get into bigger things, right? in the constitutional issues and stuff like that as far as like are they gonna >> step up? Are they going to speak up? Are they going to hold people accountable now? >> Are they gonna, you know, impeach members of the the president's cabinet? Are they going to impeach the president? You know, if if they don't change and kind of do things, but it's it has to happen. >> Why are we in this situation, though? Why are we here? Four years of Biden letting anybody and everybody walk straight across. Jesus Christ. >> A lot of them. >> Oh my god. So, wait a minute. Mom, you're saying >> I'm not saying I'm not going to disagree with you in saying that there weren't a lot of people that came across, but you know, there's a lot of people that they're rounding up that are here legally. >> That have TPS. >> Yes. >> That they are doing what needs to be done. They are following the rules. They're checking in and they need to be checking in. and and they are they they put a quot you know on ICE officers that you have to like get so many like you know Stephen Miller brought all these people in and say you know we need 3,000 arrests a day 3,000 deportations we got to get these people out of here. So, you know, there's just so much going on that's just wrong >> and inhumane >> the way they're treating these people, right? And and again, a lot of these people >> were coming in, you know, a lot of them were were asking for asylum because they are coming from bad places that were like El Salvador and other Latin American countries or Haiti or wherever it may be, >> you know, trying to do it the right way. Are you scared that you could get caught one day that they would take you? >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> So, are you staying home more or? What are you doing? >> No, I'm not staying home more, but I I think I mean, look, they arrested our our our senator, right? And I think >> they are going, you know, after people that look like me. And I think, you know, u um you know, I I don't I don't I I don't run in these like high circles or anything like that where these like with the leads, you know, a lot of my family. It's my family is my family, right? And I still kind of hang out with them. Um, you know, they they did a big roundup or or like a big threat or of like at a a swap meet here, which is like a uh well, a swap meet here in California, which was, you know, the Santa Fe Spring Swap meet. A lot of Latinos go there, right? They go there, they listen to music, they have a good time, they shop. >> Um, they had my cousin was was there. There was like images of it empty kind of like a few weeks ago because people were afraid. I've only out there before, right? And again, right, it's not like they're they are racially profiling people >> that look a certain way. Um, and it doesn't matter if they you know, and there's no way to tell if the person's like a a you know, a a citizen or not a citizen. It's just like if you look Latino, it's like we're gonna go, we're gonna stop you. and and their excuse is always, you look like somebody we're looking for, right? It's like, what's that? Oh, okay. Brown and Latino. That's that's that's who we're looking for. >> And and and yeah, I would not put it past me to ever get stopped. It's not like I've never been stopped before by law enforcement because of who I am driving. You know, I remember driving to work one time getting pulled over by a police officer who kind of gave me the um you know, oh, you you you fit a description of somebody we were looking for. >> He just kind of wanted to stop and check on me, you know, for whatever reason because I was this was when I worked at Fredo. I worked the night shift. I was going in late, you know, uh I started my shift like at 10. I think that day I went a little late for whatever reason. Um, but you know, Latino driving around midnight, we're gonna we're gonna pull them over. So yeah, I I I would be kind of afraid of them kind of coming in and seeing me if I was at at a place where a lot of Latinos frequent that I may frequent as well because I'm Latino that them kind of coming to me and and pulling me aside, you know, asking me to to see my papers. >> Can I ask a quick question before we end? >> We we do have to wrap this up, but go ahead, Mom. One more question. >> Okay. Chad doesn't know I'm gonna ask you this, but it I think it's an okay question. If it puts you on the spot and you don't want to say, then don't say. >> I literally don't know what's about to happen. >> Okay, let's see. Since 2008, you previous previously served under the Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness and the Biden administration. That's right. Right. >> Correct. >> And you were the representative in California from 2019 to 2021. Just this last week, Biden's personal doctor during the time that he was in office pleaded the fifth about his mental decline. Can you give us insight what how you feel about his mental decline? I mean, you were there, right? You saw him. >> I I did. But I will say this too. I I did not deal with him like on a a regular >> like interact, >> right? Interact with him. you know, my interactions were mostly with the the Secretary of Defense and the Deputy Secretary of Defense. >> Okay, >> that's who I interacted. But I will say when when I did and I actually saw him towards the end of his administration. Uh I went to the White House. They had a thing for new members that were elected. I had a good conversation with him about, you know, my time as his under secretary and the things that I thought that that we achieved that actually been kind of rolled back by this administration. Uh, but you know, and you know, he was sharp. I mean, he was there. He knew what we he knew what I was talking. He brought some of the things up that I had and that we had done at the Pentagon to help our military families. And it wasn't um you know Yeah. I I didn't it wasn't like he was like in a fog or anything like that when I was talking to and and look that's all I can go on as much. >> Okay. >> Nice try. Mom tried with her her Joe Biden medical gotcha question. >> Darn it. >> Darn it. >> All right. We do have to wrap it up. Thank you everyone for joining us. Thank you especially Representative Cisneros for being here with us. It was a much more subdued episode because dad was not here. But still, at the end of every episode, despite our political differences as a family, we must remind each other that we love each other. Haley, I love you. Mom, despite your Trump cap and uh all the things that you say basically on this podcast every week, I do love you. And as a a surrogate member of the Culture family this week, Representative Cneros of my great state of California, I love you, too. >> Well, thank you all. You know, much love to all of you as well. And uh you know maybe we'll have to get you have to get me back on when your dad's on here so I can get the full experience. >> I you are welcome to come back anytime you want but you should also know you might have been lucky today that he wasn't here a little bit. >> Mom, I love you. Go ahead. >> Mom, I love you. Chad, I love you. Ceros, thanks for coming on dealing with mom. Appreciate it very very much. Uh doing good work in California. So thanks for that. Thank you. And go see Superman, Mom. Go see Superman. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, I will. I will. I'll get back on that. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. You know I do. And thank you for being on our show. I love you, too. >> And dad really did want to be on this episode cuz he had questions. He really did. And >> all right, >> I've got to get him past this hip. It's hard. Last night I was up only seven times. >> Wow. A lot. Well, thank you again for uh joining us everyone. We will be back next week.