Maga Mom Explains Antifa

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. I'm calling these little midweek things busting the MAGA bubble because mom, I'm trying to bust your MAGA bubble. >> Never going to work, but good luck. >> We've already started. You've you've disagreed with Donald Trump multiple times on this show now. I think you're coming around to seeing some of these things are not true that he's saying or they're at the very least detrimental to American society. >> Like I said, good luck. >> Thank you. And by the way, I've been waiting on you for two and a half hours for this podcast. So, I deserve a medal of waiting. >> Not waiting for two and a half hours. You didn't understand the time difference in our time zones is that counts for two of those two and a half hours. >> I was uploading something for my other podcast um for the 30 minutes. But we've been doing this podcast for three years, >> over three years now. >> Yes. So when I put in a text message, let's record at 35, that means three my time, five your time. It's the same every time. I've sent that text message for three years. >> Correct. Have you and I ever done one at five o'clock my time? >> Yeah, we did last week, I think. >> No, it was 3:00 my time. >> Oh, all right. >> That's why I was a bit >> I didn't know what to do. Yeah. >> My apologies. Well, thank you for being here. Well, give me your medal and your credit where credit is due for waiting. Thank you. I appreciate it. >> And today, what we're going to be talking about is Antifa. Donald Trump has issued an executive order saying essentially Antifa is a terrorist organization. Pam Bondi has come out and said they're going to start looking at people's finances and start persecuting people who are members of Antifa. So, that's good news because there are no members of Antifa. It is not a group. It is an ideology. It is an idea. >> That is your opinion. And when you told me that you are >> you're Antifa and Haley is Antifa, that just blows my mind because we do not think Antifa is the same thing. We just don't. It's weird. It's so weird to me that you don't see Antifa the way I do. >> Mom, you're Antifa also. >> Oh, no, I'm not. No, I am not. >> Do you support the idea of fascism? >> Okay, we've been over this. To me, Antifa is it's like they are active. They are out there um you know throwing bricks at ice. They are paid most of them protesters. >> They do damage. They do physical things. >> Um they're the left side. >> What does the the word itself, what does it stand for in your mind? >> We've already talked about that. But >> what does it stand for? >> What you guys believe it is? What I believe? >> No. No. What does the word stand for? What does it mean? >> Tell me, Chad, cuz I don't know. I guess >> anti-fascism. Anti-fascist. That's Antifa. That's where the word comes from. >> Then why are they throwing bricks at ICE agents? Why are they burning things down in Portland and LA? >> Uhhuh. Okay, let you have presented me with a clip, then I'm going to present you with one. You have given me a clip that is some kind of local news coverage. Um, Trump admin ramping up efforts to trace Antifa funding launch coordinated campaign. This is from News5 WCYB. I'm not sure what local affiliate that is. This is from 5 days ago. All right. So, we're going to watch your clip. We'll discuss it. Then, we'll watch my clip which is from MSNBC also talking about Antifa. see if we can come to some agreement at least about what the word means if nothing else because I let me ask you this. What do you think fascism is? >> Um like I [snorts] guess it would be uh going against the government trying to take the government down. >> No, fascism is a government that says any disscent against us will be met with death, imprisonment. >> Hitler, for example, was a fascist. Mussolini was a fascist in World War II, >> right? >> Those are the people that the United States was fighting against >> their way or the highway. Yeah. >> Okay. So, if you're anti-fascism, you're anti- Hitler, anti- Mussolini, anti- athoritarian governments trying to squash the regular citizen to get rid of freedom of speech, to get rid of freedom of the press, all the things Trump is trying to do. But they are not because they are terrorists. >> Okay, this is how fascist governments work. They say any opposition to us is a terrorist movement and we must meet it with force, potentially military force. That's why he's trying to militarize all of our cities. >> Trump is fascist. That's why he's saying anyone who is anti-fascist should be jailed or killed. >> Can you understand that? I hear what you're saying, but that's not what Antifa is. Antifa >> literally is anti-fascist. That's where the word comes from. >> Okay, play the clip. I don't >> All right. [laughter] >> Yeah. Okay, here we go. Here's your clip, Mom. Uh, let me know if you can hear this. >> The Trump administration is ramping up its efforts to trace the funding behind Antifa. At the president's round table Wednesday, officials describing the coordinated campaign to expose the networks they believe are fueling nationwide unrest. The national news desk, Jeff Harris joining us. The roundt is is part of the administration's broader push to confront domestic unrest. Jeff, what do we know about this coordinated campaign? So Wednesday's round table, President Trump went into more detail about the administration's whole of government approach to investigate, disrupt, and also dismantle Antifa, including a major push to expose its funding networks and dark money sources. The round table featuring several cabinet members and independent journalists, including Katie Davis Court, who described recently being assaulted by Antifa in Portland. Today I am sitting here with a black eye and a concussion after being violently hit in the face with a metal pole. I watched 20 Antifa militants help my assault suspect escape into an Antifa safe house that is one block away from the ICE facility. >> Among those in attendance, Sheamus Bruner, research director at the Government Accountability Institute, who echoed administration officials that unmasking Antifa will require tracing its finances, which is exactly what his team did. followed the money and we followed it to the top of what we call the protest industrial complex. >> Bruner describing what he calls quote Riot Inc., a corporate style operation equipped with boots on the ground, marketing, and legal support. >> Dozens of radical organizations that have received more than $100 million from the Riot, Inc. investors. Bruner also pointing to GI investigation showing coordination across cities like Portland, Seattle, and Chicago involving people who were paid and transported to participate in the unrest. Specifically naming some major funding sources like >> stop it or not. >> Yep. >> Okay. What do you feel about that? about >> funds that were given to these people called Antifa to be in those cities to riot to hurt people and take them down physically. >> I'm not sure that's accurate reporting first of all, >> but >> okay, >> to organize a protest in any capacity and potentially even to pay for the transport of people to go to a protest. Anyone can do that obviously. You sent me another clip that we were not going to play here where some of the evidence that it was like a paid protest was that they had a bunch of signs laying up against a wall that anybody and they were like, "There's your sign. Just go pick it up." And you believe that's evidence of a paid protest? >> Well, when I see the other clips that show those same type of signs in another city and the same people up in front >> Yeah. >> that are in each city, I would call that paid people being in those cities to protest. Why is it paid though if they're just people protesting? How do you know it's paid? And even if it is, who cares? >> Because they are trying to take Trump down. They're trying to take our government down. And >> they're protesting against him. That is still in this country legal to do. And you can organize a protest however you want. Have you ever been in a protest? >> No, I don't think I have. I've been in some um recently or relatively recently just this this last year the guild I'm in the writer guild of America was on strike. I went to some of those uh protests. They have a big pile of signs that anybody who shows up can take one of the signs and go pick it with it. >> Okay. >> Those same signs are printed in New York. They're printed everywhere. And so people on both coasts have the exact same signs and it's a pile of them. You don't bring your own sign. But you did that because you wanted to be there. Some of these people are doing it to earn a paycheck. That's not >> I don't know that there's evidence of that. I know that's the story they're telling, but I don't know that there's evidence of it. And when >> going to find out, >> right? But you have to keep in mind like they're saying they're going to follow the money to what this guy is calling Riot Inc. >> I don't know if that's a real company or not, but they're trying to put this idea into the population. >> Huh? >> I'll Google it as you're talking. Okay, they're trying to put this idea into the population that there is a a conspiracy network of people organizing all of this, funding all of this. And that is called Antifa. >> Antifa is like saying you're Christian or it's just an idea. It's like saying I don't believe in fascism. I'm against it. >> It's like going after Huh. where we stopped the clip. The next face was George Soros, which they said he has given millions. Now they're >> giving millions to Hollywood celebrities that have been giving. >> Okay, so these people that they're talking about have been enemies of Trump for a long time. He's now just saying, "Hey, we're just going to look at the funding and they're going to see if any big celebrity or Soros or anybody has given money to a left-leaning charity or organization and they're going to say, "That's Antifa. now we arrest you. They're floating this idea that Antifa exists simply so that they can arrest whoever they want on any pretenses because they will link it to Antifa activity. This is what all authoritarian governments do. They create a fake enemy and then any of their real enemies they say are part of or working with that fake enemy then they begin to arrest you, jail you, kill you in some cases. >> Okay. There are claims by some political figures and researchers that an entity or network called Riot Inc. does fund Antifa aligned groups. Right now, no publicly verified proof of Riot Inc. is formally established for those sole purposes only of Antifa. >> Okay. >> So, they're saying yes. >> No, they're saying no. You literally just read me there that there's no publicly verified proof. So, that's a no. That means that there is no proof. >> Well, Trump will find it. There will be proof. >> But see what you just said there. Trump will find it. >> He's going to find whatever he wants. He's going to tell Pam Bondi, "Find the proof." Then it doesn't matter. It It's not There will be no proof. But she's going to say, "Look, George Soros gave >> $2 million to this charity." Well, this charity is Antifa, so he's got to be Antifa. And there is no Antifa. >> I do believe there is. Let's watch a little bit more. I'm listening to what you say. 's Open Society Foundation, >> the Arabella Funding Network, the Tides Funding Network, uh Neville Roy Singum and his network, Foreign Cash, >> designated as a domestic terrorist organization. Antifa, which is short for anti-fascist, is an ideology, not necessarily an organization, but it's been accused of organizing or encouraging violent riots, most notably during the 2020 Defend the Police protests and the more recent attacks against ICE facilities. Now, Bruner did urge the IRS and Office of Management and Budget to review or revoke tax exempt status for nonprofits that are misusing funds, adding federal authorities could use RICO statutes to target networks as well. Reporting for the National News Desk, I'm Jeff Har. >> All right. >> The part the part I don't like too is this group that you say is not a group. >> These people, Antifa, that you say are just people. >> Yeah. They go around to the anti um ICE facilities, block them in. Don't let the police and ICE do their job. >> That's against the law. They have to let people do their job. They're not allowing that. >> It depends on where they're on a public street, then that's fine. They can do whatever they want. >> But but you're you're also misunderstanding something. The Trump Organization is trying to paint everyone who is opposed to them as Antifa, which he has now officially designated a terrorist organization. So they can arrest anyone. If you're just at a protest, you're Antifa. Go to jail. So now it's any protesters can be arrested immediately. >> No, I don't agree with you there. I You're I don't agree with you. >> Then why is he making this [ __ ] up about Antifa? because they are there, they are causing a lot of um things they shouldn't be. >> Okay, so let's say there's a protest. Let's even say it turns violent. How do the cops determine or the federal officers or whoever, how do they determine who in the protest is Antifa and who is just a normal protester? >> I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. >> Okay. Um I have a clip for you now. This is a How long is this clip? It is about six minutes long. >> Oh, wow. >> It's from MSNBC. We can skip around or pause or whatever. >> It will be. >> And this is MSNBC. The clip is called Debunking the Rights Obsession with Antifa. Okay. >> Okay. >> Here we go. >> That a university professor and his family have had to flee the country. This week, Rucker University historian Mark Bray fled to Spain after he says his family received a torrent of death threats after President Trump characterized the left-wing anti-fascist movement as a domestic terrorist organization. And the Rucker chapter of right-wing student organization Turning Point USA launched a petition for his removal. Now, to be clear, Bray says he is not a part of Antifa and that his association is solely as an academic who's studied it. An Antifa is not, by the way, an actual organization with founders or leadership. It's a loose decentralized term. >> Mom, you're shaking your head. >> I don't agree. >> Oh, that's crazy. Okay. Who founded Antifa? >> I agree that it is an organization that it is funded by people like Soros. >> Who founded it? >> Huh? >> Who founded Antifa? >> Had to be the people with the money. Sored. Who? Who? >> Soros Clinton. >> George Soros is the founder of Antifa. >> Maybe >> Bill Clinton is, Obama is, >> Joe Biden. >> The people with the money that keep funding it. >> Uh-huh. So, you have no idea. And you're just making [ __ ] up and you're filling in the founder of Antifa with your current perceived political enemies. I'm filling it in with the people that have the money that keep pumping it out there for paid protesters and people to go riot and to be physical and try to paid like let's say that there are paid protesters. >> Why does that matter to you? Who cares? >> Because when they're when they are there in the name of Antifa, >> uh they cause damage. They do physical harm to people. They throw bricks. They light things on fire. >> Have you seen the footage uh from Portland where people are dressing up in frog costumes and animal costumes and dancing in the streets and that's their form of protest and then an ICE officer sprays pepper spray in the breathing hole of one of the suits. >> No, I have not seen that. >> I should >> I saw the naked people on the bikes which is so stupid. >> Well, what is it? Is it Antifas throwing bricks or they're stupid for being naked on bikes? >> Stupid for being naked on bikes. It's ridiculous. So, is it violent protest or it's peaceful protest but stupid? >> Violent protest is Antifa. That is just stupid people naked on bikes. >> Okay. Stupid people naked on bikes are not Antifa. >> Probably not. >> So, as long as you're naked on a bike, you're not Antifa. >> That's stupid. >> Okay. >> That's stupid people. >> All right. for a movement, but is increasingly being used by the right as a label for a wide range of left-leaning causes, nonprofits, and protesters. Joining us now is Rucker's history professor Mark Bray. He's also the author of Antifa, the Anti-Fascist Handbook. Professor Bray, thank you for making time for us. First, how are you and your family? You just moved to Spain. walk us through what led you to move and to get to this point. >> Right. Well, well, as you said, um, following Trump's executive order declaring Antifa a terrorist organization, which you gave me a great leadup in terms of how was that is completely ridiculous. Um, [gasps] I received a wave of death threats um, pushed on by a number of right-wing provocators online, pushed on by Turning Point USA at my campus, pushed on by Fox News. It led to the point where my address was posted on X and I felt unsafe in my my home and increasingly unsafe in the country when I tried to leave the the country on Wednesday. My my reservation was mysteriously canceled at the last second. I don't know exactly what happened with that, but it was awfully fishy. Um, and then I was uh stopped, searched, and interrogated by federal agents as I made my way out of the country on Thursday despite facing no charges for any crimes whatsoever. As you said, I'm an investigator. I'm a dad. I'm just trying to live my life. I'm not even writing about anti-fascism anymore. This is about a book I wrote eight years ago. So, it really shows, I think, that the kind of authoritarian creep going on with the Trump administration. >> Okay. What do you think of this? Well, this guy is just a professor who wrote a book about anti-fascism >> and now he's getting harassed to the point that he has to leave the country. >> So, he says he is. And if he is only that, why would he have to leave? Why would he have to leave? He's getting threats and the right-wing people are doxing him, threatening him, >> and pushing him out. >> He had to do more than just write a book on it. He had to do more. He had to be more vocal or something had to happen for him to be that afraid. >> Okay, hang on a minute. >> You said he had to be more vocal. That's just freedom of speech. Anyone is allowed to be as vocal as they want about literally anything in this country. But you think that he's pushing the narrative so hard >> that he would be afraid to be here. >> You can push whatever narrative you want. That's freedom of speech. >> Okay, then he should stay. Why would he be afraid to leave the country if all he did was write the book? >> He just told you right-wing people are threatening him and his family because Trump has said Antifa is a terrorist organization. And so now all the right-wing MAGA maniacs, especially on his campus, he talked about Turning Point USA pressuring him. They're like, "Fuck this guy. He's Antifa." Which now, at least in the mind of MAGA, certainly in your mind, equates to terrorism, which it is not. It's again, it's anti-fascist. Are you pro-fascist? >> Oh boy. >> No, don't me. Are you pro-fascist? >> No. >> Then you're Antifa. You're anti-fascist. No, I'm not Antifa. >> Are you pro-fascism or anti-fascism? >> I am not pro-fascism. >> Okay. But I am fascism. >> Antifa is like I said, paid protesters. They do damage. They throw the bricks. They light the fires. That to me is Antifa. >> Okay. Antifa is literally anti-fascism. So if you are against the idea of fascism, which you're saying you are, you're Antifa. >> No, I'm not. You and I >> I don't get how you're not understanding this. >> I I am not. >> Okay. Are you? There's no other way to say it. You're saying you're against fascism. >> I am not a person that goes out and throws bricks like >> I'm not saying you are. And you don't have to be. >> To me is Antifa. That is >> I don't throw bricks. I haven't lit any fires. I I haven't even gone to a political protest. Am I uh Antifa in your mind? >> No. >> But I am cuz I'm anti-fascist. >> I'm Antifa. >> No, you're not. >> Yes, I am. >> I don't think you are. >> Given your expertise, professor, can you tell us what Antifa is, what it's not? I mean, where did it originate from? Why has this become the obsession of the right? And honestly, in a very kind of simple way, why is it bad to be anti-fascist? Why is that now being used as a label? In some ways, don't we all want to be opposed to fascism? >> Yes, of course. Yes, of course. Um, fascism is bad. Being anti-fascist is good. As far as your specific question, Antifa is originally an abbreviation from Germany that goes back to the early 20th century opposition to to Hitler. Um, Antifa is a loose term for anti-fascist groups that uh bring together different kinds of leftists and radicals and anti-fascist in coalition to oppose the far right through a variety of different tactics. We saw it, of course, in the US, most famously with with Charlottesville. But in a sense, as you point out, this really has nothing to do with Antifa. They haven't been in the news for 5 years since of course Trump tried to blame the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020 uh uh and all of the kind of social upheaval we saw then on Antifa. It's about creating a boogeyman term to demonize not only uh self-described leftists but liberals, protesters, anyone who the Trump administration deems as an enemy. Uh the authoritarian fascist playbook in history is pretty clear that you can't simply demonize people without creating this loose framework for incriminating anyone that you want to. >> Okay. So that he's saying basically what I just told you. Do you believe it now coming from him or no? You still are like this guy's crazy. Do you just dismiss this whole? >> I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I still don't believe it. >> Why do you not? >> I believe my definition is my definition. It is your definition. >> You and that guy are not going to sway me. >> But like I don't understand how you're not even open. Like you understand the word Antifa means anti-fascist. Right. >> Right. >> Okay. So we're at least on the same page there. The basic definition of the word itself. >> Right. >> You yourself have said you are against fascism. >> Right. >> So you are anti-fascist. Yes. >> Yes. But I believe >> that's Antifa. Maybe m no maybe we maybe I should call them something else. It's the people that are paid protesters that go out start the ruckus throw the bricks on. >> I understand it's the violent elements of the Okay. You're you're a bootlicker who wants to support ICE and allow them to do anything they want. I get that. >> A bootlicker. That's nice. Yeah. Calling your mother a bootlicker. >> That is what you are. >> That is so nice. >> You support what ICE is doing. support our federal government. And if the cities, if the mayors, if the governors, if the cities aren't taking over and doing doing justice and making it safe for the people that live there, then I believe our federal government needs to do it. >> But the federal government is the one who's making it unsafe to live there. The federal government has masked secret service troops or SS troops, Gustapo style, kidnapping people with no warrants, no identification. They've killed people at this point. They shot that priest in the head. >> No, I think our federal government is making our city safer for us all to live in the United States. >> How is it safer for people who are going to their immigration hearings in court and get detained, arrested, and disappeared after that immigration hearing? Trump is cleaning up the streets. He's cleaning up the crime. >> Those people aren't criminals and they're not on the streets. These are people who are legally and lawfully going about their immigration process. And then ICE shows up at hospitals, schools, their places of work, their court hearings, and just yanks them off the street, leaving their children, their six-year-old daughters crying in the street about where is my mom going? I I have told you before I don't think some of the t tactics and the way that the immigration system is doing this is correct but we should have never left the border wide open either. So now the measures in place some of them are not correct. I have told you that. >> Okay. All right. Let's keep going here. We got a few more minutes. And and that's why, you know, it's no surprise that we've seen Republican politicians calling the upcoming No King's Day protest a kind of gathering of what they refer to as the pro- Hamas crowd in an effort to demonize um Palestine solidarity protesters, Antifa, Marxists. It's it's a catchall and and really has nothing to do with with anti-fascism so much as demonizing protest and equating with terrorism. So, professor, one of the phrases that the far-right activists who have really honed in on you, it's in the introduction to your book and you say a call to arms and they use that is saying like, "Oh, this is rhetoric that is inciting violence." Now, frankly, it's a figure of speech. I think that we've gotten way snowflaky in policing what you know, phrases that are commonly used and and manipulating it for our own partisan political purposes. But if you went back and rewrote your introduction, would you still use that phrase? >> Yeah, it means that we need to organize against fascism, right? And and so my book is a history book. I come at it as a scholar. I interviewed more than 60 anti-fascists from 17 different countries. I have a PhD. I've been working on the history of the left for a long time. But I also really don't like fascism and I would really like people to organize against fascism. So, you know, it that criticism just sounds like people that haven't read a lot of literature to be honest. Um, >> are you okay with people organizing against fascism? >> Yes. But that's not what I think Antifa is. You and I are completely different on our meaning and what it is. >> You perceive Antifa to be an actual group of people that has a leader and all this [ __ ] which it's not. >> But you're also missing the bigger point, which is Trump is a fascist. I don't >> currently has military in the streets of US cities killing people. >> No, they're not killing people. That's our federal government that are taking over in the cities where the mayors are not doing anything. >> They shot and killed somebody. ICE did last week. >> What city was that? >> I want to say that was outside outside of Chicago. >> Did not know that. >> Okay. Well, that is what they're doing. They're becoming more violent, more brazen, and the the this no kings thing that's happening this weekend. I have no idea how this is going to go. Do you believe that these protests are okay to have this weekend? >> Yes, they this would be what, the second one? >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Now, do you think that Trump is going to try to arrest a bunch of people at these violently? Possibly. I think if the people that are going to the no kings get violent then whoever is there either works either the city police or the federal will push back or national guard they're not going to stand there and let bricks be thrown at them or spin their the footage that is coming out of Chicago and Portland is not that >> it's peaceful protesters standing there and then these >> just listen to what I'm saying you're dismissing everything before I even say it. >> Just a minute. What? >> A roofer sent a guy to market. >> Okay. >> He's up there now. >> Okay. Dad had to tell me something. >> I heard it. >> The roofer sent. >> The roofer sent a guy and he's up on the roof right now. >> Okay. Well, I hope the roofing goes well. >> I'm almost done. I'll be there. I'll check out the guy. Did he call you? He said he rang the doorbell, which I heard. >> Oh, >> and he sent a text. >> Okay. I didn't get it. I'll be there in a minute. >> I don't even know what we were talking about. Let's just keep going through this. We have a minute left of this. >> If it wasn't that, they would have honed in on something else. Uh, this is not a good faith engagement. This is an effort to take words, take ideas, twist them entirely out of context. I mean, they've compared Antifa to ISIS for crying out loud. You know, this is this is not a fair conversation. We need to recognize the rhetorical games being played here and and the the end purpose of really making protest uh seem like terrorism, which is of course ridiculous. Our country is a history rich with protest of all sorts. And that's what we should be celebrating, not demonizing. >> Well, you're in a good country, Spain, to do some research on the Spanish Civil War and another anti-fascist movement. So, Professor >> All right, we don't need to see the rest of this. Um, >> yeah. >> You believe one thing, I believe another. I believe they're terrorists. I believe that they cause harm to people. >> I'm Antifa. What's happening is >> I'm Antifa. >> I'm Antifa. >> No, you're not. And neither is Daily. >> Yes, she is. >> We are both anti-fascism. >> How many bricks have you thrown at ICE agents? How many uh trash cans have you lit on fire? Zero. How many people have you hit in the head and done harm to? >> Zero. >> None. You're not Antifa. >> I am. And so is everybody who's against the idea of fascism ruling a country. >> Okay. >> And the stuff you're talking about, all the videos that are coming out of Chicago and Portland are peaceful protesters standing there and then ICE agents throwing them to the ground violently in some cases. I I saw um one woman get smashed on the ground. I believe she broke a rib, had to go to the hospital. all this they are. It's the the ICE agents that are being violent and I feel like when the group gets big enough and the ICE agents are outnumbered, we might see some real violent backlash from the crowd uh this weekend. I don't know that's going to be the case or not. >> I feel like it's the other way. I've seen it both ways. I've seen where the protesters start spitting on ICE agents, >> but how much of this are we supposed to take? Let me ask you this. Right now, ICE is operating unchecked. They are committing assault on US citizens, murdering them, kidnapping them. How much of that are we supposed to allow before there is some kind of reaction where we're throwing a brick? >> Well, right now it's going both ways. It's going both ways, Chad. Not just one-sided. That's >> But it's coming from one person. It's coming from one organization. Trump is militarizing ICE. That's right. And sending them in to do these violent acts specifically to try and provoke a violent reaction from protesters so he can declare martial law, move into every city, and take away all constitutional rights. >> That's what you believe. I believe it's literally what he's doing. >> I believe it's being paid by um higher up leftsided people. That's what I believe. >> Leftsided. You are darksided. >> You didn't let me say this. Congratulations to President Trump. Peace in Gaza so far. We'll see how it's going because there's already um yeah, there's some things they didn't hand back all the dead bodies. You know, there's 20 points that have to be made. Um I saw today on um the news where in um the Hamas that they are now behead not beheading, but they are executing their own. >> Yeah. because it's terrible. It's terrible. So, I pray this holds. I pray it goes well. But the 20 prisoners that did get to come home, praise God. My God. Did you see some of those reunited? >> Yeah. I've also seen some videos of the uh prisoners that Israel was torturing getting sent back into Gaza. They looked pretty beat up as well. >> Both ways. Yeah. Okay. We can talk about that Sunday. And happy birthday, Charlie. He got that Presidential Medal of Freedom or his wife did. Yeah. >> Oh, Charlie Kirk. >> That was very Yeah. Very sad. >> Yeah. I uh I've been going down some weird rabbit holes with the Charlie Kirk assassination. >> I know. >> I don't think he was shot. >> Um >> what do you think happened? You think the microphone exploded? >> Yeah, I think it was a inside job. I think they killed him with the microphone. And then there's that video of the guy jumping over the table and taking the wires basically from the device and running off with them. >> I was like, "What? What's going on here?" And then they immediately >> cemented over the entire scene in 48 hours. >> I know. >> I think it was 100% fix was in. I think they sacrificed him to the Trump god. >> Oh, okay. No. Uh other way, the left side. But prayers to >> You think it was the left side? >> Uhhuh. Prayers to her >> and her family and her children, her his. >> She don't need prayers. She got all that money now. >> Stop it. Okay, I've got to go take care of the roofer, by the way. [laughter] >> Good luck with the roofer. Thank you. >> Summoned. Okay, >> thank you for joining me for this. Thank you all for joining us for this. We will be back on Sunday with a full roster of everything that's been going on this week, including I want to play a clip of Donald Trump talking about whether or not he thinks he's going to get into heaven. So stay tuned for that one. >> We also need to bring up UFOs. Not the UFOs. Well, yeah, UFOs, but that that >> Yes. Yes. >> I've been following that, too. It's pretty interesting. >> Okay. Love you, Chad. >> Love you, too. >> Bye. Bye.