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Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It's me, Chad Coachran. With my mom today, my sister is far too busy to join us. It's going to be us showing us showing each other clips from around the internet. From the other sides or respective bubbles. Mom, you have sent me a couple of clips. I have some clips as well. Before we begin though, somebody in the live reminded me of this. About a month ago, you used a transphobic slur on the show that I had to bleep out. And they wanted you to apologize for it. Are you willing to do that?
I don't even know what the slur was. What are they talking about? a transphobic slur. What? One that you have used multiple times. Well, I'm not going to say it, obviously.
Well, give me a letter. Tell me something. I need to know what I have to apologize for. Take it from me, you said a transphobic slur that I had to bleep out.
Okay. All you have to do is apologize for using the transphobic slur. If I knew what it was, I might. Tell me what it was.
refusal. I'm not saying it. Well, then if I don't know, how can I apologize? Because I'm telling you you did it. Okay, I do I hear what you're saying. I'd like to know what I'm apologizing for. That's it.
For using a transphobic slur. I'm sorry for using a transphobic slur that I don't know what I said or what I did. There you go.
Great, super sincere. Let's begin the show. You won't tell me, so. I am not going to say the word. Okay. Well, give me the letter. Give me the beginning letter. Maybe I can figure it out.
Wow. I want to start real quick that you said I shouldn't do this, but this is really funny. So, when we first clicked on today, I was backstage. I wasn't yet in my little box with Chad, and this is what I see of Chad. Let's see. Let me see if I can do it.
[laughter] Like his head was down like he was having a seizure or something. I was like, "Oh my god, Chad. Chad. Chad." And he wouldn't respond. So, I was ready to call 911 to get someone in the his condo with him, his apartment. And then when he came up, he had on these big old uh light glass
Yeah. Like he was looking at planets or something. Anyway, he scared me a bit. Well, now I have to explain to what it was, obviously. I've gotten very addicted again to Magic the Gathering. I've started to make my own cards to do my own like alters. And to do those, I use a the smallest micron marker you can get, which is a 0.15 mm. And so, in order to see the fine details that I'm working on the cards with, I have to wear these glasses.
That's what I saw. They have lights on them. I see [laughter] Put your head back down. Put it back down the way it was. Put your head down. All the way down. That's what I saw for 5 minutes, right there. I thought he was gone.
In order to do it, I have to not only wear these glasses to magnify what I'm looking at, I have to my head has to be like half an inch from the card that I'm working on.
Okay. I thought he was gone. Uh [snorts] let's start the show now. Mom, you've sent me three clips. Uh I don't know which one you want to start with here. You've got an something about AOC. I don't know what any of these are.
It doesn't matter. You can start with any one. What's that? You can start with any one. Some of them I don't even remember I sent.
Okay. I'm just going to play them in the order you sent them. Here we go. Okay. It's hard to get through. I tried to warn everyone about this back in 2020 and I was called crazy, a conspiracy theorist. I was even issued death threats. Watch this.
It was revealed today that Dr. Anthony Fauci knew in January of 2021 that the COVID-19 vaccine could cause a miscarriage in the first trimester.
Evil. But then 16 days later, he went on the news and said this. Beyond evil. Since the EUA and under the EUA, approximately 20,000 pregnant women have been vaccinated with no red flags as we say, and this is being monitored by the CDC and the FDA.
Here's the email he sent. I asked around a bit more and another issue came up that you need to be aware of. Since many people have significant cytokine storm and fever after the second dose, this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester.
And Senator Ron Johnson confirmed that Fauci was saying that the miscarriage rate among pregnant women who took the jab was only 12.6% but it turns out that the raw data showed that it was 82%.
Evil. Fact that he knew that this shot could weaken the immune system to the point of excessive inflammation that could damage tissues and organs and then go on and promote it to pregnant women is both sick and evil.
That's right. he has a part and I think that he needs to be tried for crimes against humanity. Absolutely. You? You know, 6 years ago when I was receiving death threats for speaking very openly about the dangers of this and telling people not to get it and warning people about this particular doctor, I had people sending me my home address and telling me that they were going to kill me. But I knew that this day would come and I really thought that that once all this information came out, which was inevitable, that I was going to feel vindicated, I was going to feel,
you know, certain level of satisfaction because who I was right. And really I just feel sad and heartbroken. So, for every woman who um has paid the price for this, who um lost a child. Ugh. It's hard to get through.
But definitely keep your crying on camera. Definitely do that. Don't edit that out. Ugh. Who miscarried and lost a child on account of this evil evil agenda, my heart goes out to you.
Okay. My prayers are with you. Okay. Okay. So, what that was about I know what it was about. I got it. Some of Dr. Fauci's
lied and and knew that it was going to have an 82% miscarriage rate among pregnant women who take the vaccine. I remember when it first came out, and I remember him being on TV saying, "It's safe for everyone. It's safe for pregnant women. Everybody should take it." And now in his text messages, it's different. So, that was a lie.
Right. that okay, Chad, to lie to us like that, especially women that lost their babies? The data that they're using in that is not confirmed in any way. Just a quick Google search of this, which which does bring up um you know, footnoted sources.
Okay. the observed miscarriage rate among pregnant individuals who received the COVID-19 vaccine ranges between 9 and 14%, which is completely consistent with the normal baseline miscarriage of 10 to 20% found in general pre-print pandemic population.
But what was in Dr. Fauci's email? Viral social media claims suggesting the first trimester miscarriage rates as high as 81 or 82% have been definitively debunked as statistical miscalculations that erroneously excluded healthy ongoing pregnancies from the data pools. So, the thing that you're watching, the thing that this woman is making a video of herself crying over, that was my favorite part of the video. For 10 seconds, she's just I can't even get through this. I mean, she's making these videos to go viral, to hit those triggers in your brain that get outraged and mad at Fauci and all this [ __ ] [ __ ] The data is wrong. What they are
telling you is wrong. Well, that's not what they're saying in the emails that just recently came out that he had to release. What emails?
Um, like within the last two days, some of his emails had to come out that said the risk of having those miscarriages was way bigger percentage than what he first said it was going to be.
Okay, I haven't seen these emails. I don't know where you're getting them from. But everything I'm now reading to you is saying that that the very video you showed me has been debunked. It is not real. It is not correct.
Okay. Well, I've um I can't chat GPT anymore cuz I've done it too much today. Well, I can't What do you mean? Oh, you hit your limit? Yes. Jesus Christ. Well, this isn't chat GPT. This is me looking at documents.
Okay. Well, I could always Google too, but A massive systemic systematic review published by the National Institutes of Health compiled data from 21 separate studies involving 149,685 pregnant women concluded that the pooled miscarriage rate among vaccinated women was 9% finding absolutely no statistical increase compared to unvaccinated or placebo groups. Hello.
Yes, I'm here. I'm listening. Okay. Well, I believe some of that to be true that he wasn't telling us the whole truth. Believe whatever want. This clip you showed me is a lie. And you can find out that it's a lie by literally Googling.
But I also saw something on TV that said his email messages were different than what he told us before. So What channel? What network was it on?
Um might have been NBC. Uh-huh. Mhm. It was probably Newsmax. I'm just telling you with a simple Google search Mhm. the video you have shown me is completely invalidated. And this is like really at the crux of these Wednesday episodes is when you're showing me these videos from your side of the bubble and I'm telling you they're wrong, this is a lie generated primarily for clicks. That woman obviously is just trying to get uh people to watch her videos. That little chunk of her in there just like
[laughter] Like why would she leave that in? If she's just trying to convey information to you, why is she leaving in this 10-second clip of her crying? Fake crying, by the way.
Maybe she lost a baby. I don't know. It got to me. She's acting. This is a performance, just like Newsmax's. Okay. Let's move on to your second clip. Um this one is something about AOC, I guess.
Freezing her eggs, probably. Okay, here we go. She must really think she's living in a telenovela because the drama continues. She announced today she has split with her boyfriend of 15 years, Ideals Meal. Obviously, if AOC is going to run for president, she can't have a white ginger boyfriend. She's going to have to be married or dating a person of color. And listen, I don't know much about this man. I'm sure we have very different politics, but he deserves some kind of metal or award for putting up with AOC for 15 years. Okay, that is a plight.
Now, this might explain why AOC is being so vulnerable and open. She's even freezing her eggs backstage at ABC News in the green room. She is in the dressing room freezing her eggs. I'll put a picture up on the screen. So good for her. She's freezing her eggs. She's putting her huevos on ice, her huevos rancheros. But it's a good thing Congress has an entire month off. Most of us, we have to work, but she has a month to just live in the drama and Instagram and film herself like a little influencer. Now, I do wonder where she disposed of those needles backstage at
ABC News. And this is someone who has been so immensely and intensely private, but she's so strategic and calculated. She announces she's freezing her eggs. She's going to do this like feminist manifesto thing where she's a hero for women. And then she announces she split from her man of 15 years. She's laying the foundation, baby. She also went on some rant that was allegedly about her ex being a loser. It's now been deleted.
Let's take a look. By a loser, I mean someone who doesn't respect women, someone who doesn't respect you, someone who doesn't treat you well, someone that doesn't support your growth. So like I said, Miss Telenovela, she should not be anywhere near the nuclear codes. We just had bird brain Kamala Harris. Now we're going to have bird brain AOC. And listen, we've got tons of famous Puerto Rican women in this country, Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez. But AOC is the first Puerto Rican I've seen who won't get pregnant. I told y'all the other day, AOC has no intention of having a child.
She does not want kids. She does not like kids. In her free time, she likes to play video games and post videos on Instagram. If she wanted by now, she was with the guy for 15 years. She's only doing this to look like a feminist icon because she wants to run for higher office and she wants to twist all of those women's emotions and use them for political points and clout. Another reason I don't think AOC should be in charge of the nuclear codes is she's clearly very emotional from injecting herself with these hormones. And I understand. I've seen friends of mine go
through IVF and egg retrievals. But if you're on Instagram ranting about how your ex is a loser and you were with him for 15 years. What does that say about you, abuelita? What does that say about you, sweetheart? All right, I'll keep you guys abreast of all of the telenovela drama for my Spanish-speaking audience. Tú eres mi corazón. I love you all. Thanks for liking and following and commenting. Goodbye. Good night.
Okay. So, this guy is a racist, misogynist piece of [ __ ] No, I like him. I think he's funny. I think Completely racist, completely misogynist.
Some of the stuff he said is true. Why would she be doing this now and showing everyone she's retrieving her eggs and doing this um just to get the women on her side for 2028.
Okay. Let's Let's really break down what he did here. He Okay. called her eggs huevos rancheros. That's obviously racist. probably wasn't very nice.
Extremely racist. Everything he was saying was racist. Making fun of the fact that she's Puerto Rican but can't have a kid. Totally racist.
The part of that I didn't Calls her sweetheart. The Talks about how she's pandering All of this is misogynistic. There's nothing wrong with calling her sweetheart.
It's a condescending term that a guy uses to minimize or diminish the fact that she's a woman. Sweetheart? Oh, Yes. I don't look at it like that at all.
Okay. That's fine if you don't, but I'm telling you that is what he meant by it. Okay. The part that I did believe in that clip, she had 15 years with a boyfriend. If she wanted a child, maybe they could have done it then. Why now? If she like, "Oh, look at me. I'm retrieving my eggs." What That is something so private. To millions of women that cannot have children that want to do that. Why is she doing that now out in public saying, "Oh, look at me." I feel she's trying to get the female vote.
Okay. And that's the part of the clip that I wanted to kind of share and show. Okay. But he did go a little bit He did go a little bit far and and was making fun of things that he shouldn't have.
I mean, one of his main complaints is like, why is she She's all over social media and has a month off and she's taking all these social media things. It's like, are you watching Donald Trump? That guy posts 30 times a day, usually in like the hours from midnight to 4:00 a.m. [ __ ] AI memes of himself, AI memes of other people. That guy's complaining about how how AOC is using social media. Donald Trump is the the worst uh person ever that we've seen in some kind of high-level official office capacity at using social media in terms of giving us a a view of somebody
who's insane. He's like, "You want her near the the nuclear codes when she's hormonal?" That's not misogynistic to you? Yeah, that probably wasn't right. He shouldn't have said that, but I said I showed that to say why. This is something so private for women. Why is she going out there saying, "Look at me. Look what I'm doing"? Because she's trying to get voters already for 2028.
I don't necessarily agree with you. Anyone is free to share any part of their life online in any way they see fit, especially something like this, which as you're saying, is a private thing. But to put more light on it, to bring more awareness to it, to say, "Look, I'm going through this, too. I'm doing this thing. Here's how it's working for me." Why is that a bad thing?
I just I think she It's not bad, but I think she's doing it to get votes. That's Do you think Donald Trump has ever done anything to get votes? Like hold a Bible up upside down and say it's his favorite book, but he can't name a quote from it? Do you think he's done that?
Probably. Okay. All politicians do things to get votes. Why do you think that's bad? I just I didn't like it when she was using that to with the eggs.
But do you like it when Trump uses things to get votes? No, all pol- like you said, no, all politicians do it. I just saw that clip.
Yeah. Wanted to show it. Didn't like how she was doing that. That I'm That guy is like I've never seen that guy before. I don't know who he is. That dude's a real piece of [ __ ]
No, he's not. He's on Instagram. I like him. Oh, that That makes him a good guy? Yeah. That entire video was nothing but racism and misogyny.
Well, that's your opinion. No, that's objectively true. We watched it. He makes fun of her for being Puerto Rican and not having a baby by her age. That is racist.
Mhm, that's his opinion. He can say that. Yes, it's a racist opinion. Okay, just move Like I said, some of that was not right to say, but I brought it up to say I think she's trying to get women to vote for right now already.
Okay. Let's move on to your next clip. Here we go. Here's a breaking story at this hour. After nearly 4 years held in a Russian prison, a US Marine veteran has just been released. The president saying he's gravely ill. What happened to him in that prison? Here's Martha Raddatz now.
Tonight after 4 years in a Russian prison, former US Marine Robert Gilman is a free man. Here on the flight home, blanketed in an American flag with his mother at his side. The 32-year-old appears gaunt. His family said in June he had slipped into a dissociative stupor after years of horrible treatment where he was essentially catatonic, unable to eat or respond, and suffering from a severe bout of pneumonia. And soon afterward, Gilman was given a pardon on humanitarian grounds. Gilman was accused of kicking a Russian police officer at a train station while intoxicated. Gilman said he had fallen ill and police hit him with a baton
while on a visit to extended family. He was serving a 10-year prison sentence. Born in Poland to Russian immigrants who settled in Massachusetts, Gilman gained US citizenship.
When Robert was detained, um it broke my heart. The family thanked President Trump and his team as well as Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey for helping with his release. Gilman will be taken to a military hospital in Texas where the family said they will make sure he gets the support and medical help he needs.
And David, it is unusual for Russia to release an American prisoner without getting a Russian in return, but Vladimir Putin said that's because of Gilman's failing health, David.
Martha Raddatz live in Washington. Martha, thank you. So, I wanted to show you that because you always say Trump just does terrible things. Well, that's one very good thing that he was involved with that negotiation along with senators on both sides, Democrats, Republicans, to bring that man home to the United States. There was no prisoner exchange. There was no money exchange. Uh remember, I don't even know what year it was when Brittney Griner had come back home. We had to give them like What was the name of that man? He was a terrible man that we had in prison. And it was a prisoner exchange that we had
to give back. I just wanted to show you that to say thank God that man is home. Um and thank you, President Trump and the senators that made that happen.
All right. Fair enough. Yeah, I'm not Look, he also You always say he does such bad things. Yes, most of what he does is bad, but every once in a while something does slip through the cracks. I'm glad this guy is um out of that prison.
He brought an American home that needed to be home. And I tried to Google, we still have people over there in prison. Um Trump is a good um I don't want to say yeah, negotiator, but I'm sure he was in contact with Putin.
He's a good negotiator. Did you see Iran? I think today was just like we'll never do a deal with Trump because he's actually a bad negotiator.
Yesterday I thought we were getting closer again. There ain't no getting closer. This war is going to go on forever. He's a terrible negotiator.
Okay. Well, he had to be pretty good with this one and also Democrat and Republican senators that brought this man home. Thank God he's back home.
Of course it's a good thing. I'm not disputing that. Okay, we have several more that need to come home, too. Yeah. All right, let's move on. I have some clips now. Um my first clip, I have three here. My first clip pertains to what you were saying on Sunday show when we were talking about Turdy Blanchey getting confirmed as the um head of the DOJ, right? As attorney general.
Todd Blanche, is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. You maintained, let's wait and see what he does. He's going to have a change of heart and and go against Trump and do what is right. Okay?
Okay. So this clip is from Liz Eyer. She was Biden's pardon attorney. And she is telling us about the very first thing Turd Blanche has done as
attorney general. Okay? Here we go. Let's just call him TB. Hey everybody. I want to tell you about Todd Blanche's first official act as attorney general. He papered over a whole bunch of future legal problems for Donald Trump. Let me explain. I'm Liz Eyer, the former pardon attorney for the Department of Justice. Just hours after Blanche was sworn in, DOJ issued a 21-page memo that massively expands the scope of executive privilege. That is a legal doctrine that allows the president and his advisers to keep their communications secret from the public, from Congress, and from the courts. In the past, the Supreme Court has said
that executive privilege is only a limited privilege. It is not absolute, and it must be balanced against other interests. For example, if the president's communications are relevant to a criminal investigation or to a congressional inquiry, that might outweigh the privilege. Executive privilege has been unsuccessfully asserted by two past presidents with something to hide. One was Richard Nixon, who wanted to cover up his role in Watergate. The other is Donald Trump.
In 2021, he tried to assert the privilege to cover up his role in the events of January 6th. A court said no, he could not claim that his communications related to January 6th were protected from disclosure. So, back to yesterday's memo. Here's what it does. It lays out the Justice Department's new interpretation of the presidential communications privilege. It says that this privilege is actually so broad that it applies to all of the president's communications, even with people who don't work for the White House or who don't work for the federal government at all.
This is an unprecedented and dubious legal interpretation. But, here's why it's important. It now gives Donald Trump legal cover to refuse to produce any documents in response to congressional subpoenas. If Democrats win the midterms, there will be lots of investigations into the misconduct and corruption of this administration. Todd Blanche is trying to get ahead of those investigations with this memo, which Trump can now use as a shield. And it's not limited to Trump himself. The memo gives everyone who has ever spoken to Donald Trump a claim of of privilege. For example, if Trump's sons are subpoenaed to testify before Congress or in court, the
administration can squash their testimony by claiming executive privilege. So, is this really legal? Well, the existing case law suggests that it is not. But, here's the thing. The current Supreme Court has taken such an expansively broad view of executive power that they just might go for it. Remember, this is the same court that gave Trump absolute immunity from prosecution just 2 years ago. And even if it doesn't hold up in court, the memo will help Trump delay and obstruct potentially for years by tying things up in litigation.
Thanks, Phil Cassidy. Okay. Do you understand that? I understood some of it. That's a lot of information. She said it won't hold up in court probably.
But, it will tie up any kind of investigations, litigations against Trump forever. Until he dies. So, he'll never be held accountable for any of this. But, the the core of this is Todd Blanche's first action after being confirmed as attorney general was to issue this memo that says you can never subpoena anything Trump has ever said, emailed, texted to anyone for any reason. That's the first thing he did. You were under the impression he's going to get in there and do what's right. The first thing he does is something that is criminally wrong.
What did he do with the Epstein files? He hasn't released them. I thought he did already. No. Half of them still are unreleased.
Why did I read that that he has done that? I I have no idea. He hasn't. Hm. I wonder where I saw that.
want you to focus on this first action. to focus on it. And let I understand I understand parts of it what she said. It's kind of like a pardon then. It's like a pardon to everybody.
a pardon. It means that anyone in Trump's inner circle, or anybody that he's ever communicated with, even if it's not like official government business, just any email he's ever sent. That memo says no court can subpoena those records. We can never see what he has said to anybody for any reason.
Okay. It's not a law, like she said, it's not going to hold up in court. It doesn't matter. That's the memo. That's right, but it's a memo issued by the Attorney General of the United States. That memo can be used in appeals of decisions. That memo can be used to delay decisions. They can use that memo to basically slow down any investigations into Trump, period. And if these midterms happen and it's fair and free elections and Democrats win, they only need to win either the Senate or Congress to launch investigations into Trump, into all of his business dealings, into [ __ ] that his family's
doing. But now, those investigations, they're going to be like, "Okay, we've launched an investigation. Here's a subpoena for Trump. Give us all of your emails from this date to this date." Nope. Not going to do it. The DOJ says I don't have to. Here's the memo, and now that has to get a further legal action to be to override the memo. And who knows how long that's going to take. And eventually that's going to go all the way to the Supreme Court, which he already has stacked with three people that say he can't be prosecuted for anything.
You see what he's doing? He's He's totally dismantled the American judicial system so that he is immune from it. So he can do whatever crimes he wants and not have to pay the price at all. To not even be able to be investigated for these things.
Like I said, it's not going to hold up in court, like she said. I you're misunderstanding. It doesn't matter if it's going to hold up in court or not. He's doing it. Trump has installed his crony as the head of the American legal system. That crony, the first thing he does is say you can't look at any communications Trump has ever done. Whether it holds up in court is irrelevant. You said on Sunday you thought Todd Blanche would be good and do the right thing. The first thing he's done is the exact wrong thing.
You can see that, right? Yeah. You can see that they are corrupt. Yes, I do see that. So you see that Trump is corrupt.
Starting. Start How's Do you think Todd Blanche just does that? Like, you know what I think I should do as attorney general is issue this [ __ ] memo that completely obscures any ability to look into Donald Trump's communications? Trump told him to do that.
Um I don't have I don't see anything different than the last 45 minutes of Biden's administration pardoning every member of his family. No, that is way different. What are you talking about? You can issue pardons whoever you want. I'm sure Trump will do that, too. This is saying You didn't listen to what Liz Oyer said there. This has only been attempted two other times to claim executive privilege where communications regarding a president and anybody else are concerned. Richard Nixon tried to do it to cover up Watergate and Trump tried to do it to cover up his involvement in January 6th.
And did it hold up with Nixon? It held It didn't hold up with either of them. No. But that's because there was not a his personal criminal defense attorney as the head of the [ __ ] DOJ. Now there is. That's what I'm saying. Trump has installed his cronies at the heads of all of these departments in a capacity that now allows him to break the system.
Yeah. I don't know what to say about this one. Okay. Well, think about it because there are only two people who have tried to claim this level of executive privilege. One is Richard Nixon. And you know he was a bad president, right? You know he did crimes, right?
Yes. Yes. one [clears throat] who has now tried to do it twice is Trump. That doesn't mean anything to you? A little, yes.
What does that mean a little? I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? What's going on over there? [laughter] I don't know what to say.
Well, think about it for a minute. I'm trying. Okay. Here's the evidence you have. The only presidents in history who have tried to do this thing have been found to be guilty of crimes.
But I'm also comparing it to members of family that are all pardoned. That's not the same thing. This has nothing to do with pardons. This is Todd Blanche saying when there's an investigation, which likely, again, if we have free and fair elections and Democrats win in the midterms and we take control of either the Senate or Congress or potentially both, but we only need one to launch an investigation into all of the crimes and the fraud and the corruption that Trump and his family have put into the government.
If they launch those investigations, the first thing that happens in those investigations is subpoenas are sent out to anybody that they believe is involved in whatever the crimes were, the wrongdoing, to get their emails, to get their text messages so that we can see who they were talking to and what they were talking about. What Todd Blanche has done is say, you can never do that. You cannot look at anything Donald Trump has ever said to anyone.
Why would But that lady said it won't hold up in court and they will get them. It does not matter. Okay. You're you're there That's always your next step. Well, it's not going to hold up, but he's trying to do it. Do you think that's a good person?
No. Okay. Trump knows he's [ __ ] The only reason to have Todd Blanche put this memo out and say, "You can't look at any of my shit." is because he knows there's some real bad stuff in all of his emails.
Maybe. he's committing crimes and there's evidence of it and Todd Blanche is trying to hide that. Maybe. What do you mean maybe? What's the other reason for Todd Blanche issuing this memo?
I do not know. There isn't one. Okay. No president in the history of our country has ever had a an attorney general issue a memo like this. Why?
I understand what you're saying. Okay. And how does that make you feel about Trump that he's trying to hide crimes, evidence of his own crimes?
Not good. Okay. How not good? Not good. All right. Yeah, we'll leave it at that. I have two more clips here. This is about a different thing. Uh I'll play the clip then we'll talk about it and then I have another clip. Uh let's just play the clip then we'll discuss. Here we go. Ready?
What you're about to see is astounding. As Donald Trump leaves White House staff and the press pool essentially for dead, Trump pretends to board Air Force One going all the way in the plane and then a catering truck pulls up and he escapes in the catering truck to go and board the Qatar Air Force One instead. There were incredible threats that Air Force One could be shot down. But Trump abandoned everyone on the plane and took a safer plane.
Did you hear about this story? Yes, I saw it. I heard about it. I saw what Trump said. He said he followed the Secret Service.
Well, that's my next clip. We're going to watch that clip next. We're going to watch that clip next. I have that as the next clip.
they told him to do. When I first saw that he went away in the catering truck, I was kind of giggling. But, I was like, wait a minute. How did that even happen? I guess he went down on the opposite side, they put him in it, and took him away. Then I thought, wait a minute. Who were the people left in the airplane? Was the airplane going to be shot down?
Was it going Were they going to shoot him through a window? Uh because they were told to put their window shades down. So, I was hoping that that was the way they were going to go after him and not to blow up the whole airplane because they left you know, his staff was on there, reporters were on there.
Yeah. But, we have to save our president, too. But, why not save all those people, as well? Why not ground the airplane and take a different flight?
That's probably what should have happened, but they did it on the level that they thought they should. Our government. No, Trump. Trump made this final decision, for sure. We're going to
watch the clip of him explaining the thing. Okay. But, the bottom line here is he's a [ __ ] coward who does not care if other people die as long as he lives.
He did what his security people told him to do. I do truly believe that. But, he's the president. Right. And you have to get out of
the ability to make choices and decide things or not? He has the ability to get out of harm's way so that they're not going to assassinate him.
Correct. But, why does that mean he sends a plane full of people into the air that might get blown up? Maybe by that time the it was gone. Like, they weren't going to get him.
He's on the plane. They concoct this entire scenario where you have you walk on the plane so it looks like you're on the plane, then we sneak you out in a catering car and put you in another plane. At no point in his mind is he like, "Well, what about the other people on the plane?" He doesn't give a [ __ ] about them.
Did you know he's not the Did you know he's not the only president then? If you're calling him a coward that was a coward because it's happened to another president during our time.
Okay. Bill Clinton did the same thing. Got into another airplane. Right. Coward. In and out of I think Pakistan. Coward. Well, there No, it's our United States saving our presidents so that they don't get assassinated.
But why do you need to put other people's lives at risk for that? I did think it was strange that they were left on the plane and he got out the back end. I did think that was odd.
took off. Like fine, have him walk into the plane. Have him escape in the catering car and go get on another plane that nobody knows about and then don't have Air Force One fly. That's all you have to do.
But maybe we don't know the whole story that whatever our government knew about, you know, maybe they were trying to shoot that airplane down, that that was already done and over. That's why they let the airplane take off with the important people.
Then why would they need Trump off of it? Then why would they need Trump off of it? Then why would they need Trump off the plane if they know the threat's gone?
Maybe it left like within 10-15 minutes before the big plane ever took off. I don't know, Chad, but yeah, it's not cool to leave your staff and there were Wasn't Marco Rubio in there, too? There was some
I don't I I read something about him deciding to take He took that woman, I forget her name, the one who's always by his side, and he took some other people, but he left Stephen Miller to die. He left a couple of other big people to die and he left the entire White House press pool to die.
Right. Yeah, still in there. I know. That's a piece of [ __ ] Well, then you got to call Clinton a piece of [ __ ] cuz he did the same thing.
Yes, Clinton's a piece of [ __ ] See how easy that was for me to do? I guess so. I say save our president. But I'm Yeah.
Well, let's see what President Trump had to say about it himself. Here we go. Okay. President, can you tell us about your ride on the airport catering truck in Turkey? Why did you need to do that?
Well, it's only up to Secret Service. I just follow what they'd like to do. So, I go by Secret Service and the military. They wanted me to go in a different flight, a different plane. Uh equal safety, but they wanted me to do it, so I do it. I do what they say.
Why did they want you to do that? I guess there was a threat out there. I didn't really ask too much about it. I get a lot of threats.
Why was it too dangerous for you to fly on Air Force One, but not too dangerous for the other plane? the plane that I flew on was at greater risk.
Why do you say that? because that would be the plane I think that we that they would be more likely to go for.
President, were you surprised, Mr. President, that the Secret Service was telling you to take that third plane? No, not surprised. I have a lot of threats. I have a lot of threats that you don't know about. Any consequential president has a lot of threats. Non-consequential presidents don't get threatened. And I think that I'm maybe the most consequential president.
All right. So, there he says a lie. I just do whatever Secret Service tells me. I didn't even know there was a threat. So, when Secret Service comes to him and is like, "Hey, we need to sneak you out of this airplane onto a catering truck." he doesn't ask any questions?
I'm sure he did what they told him to do. Uh-huh. Just like when there was a shooter at that one last dinner and they ducked him down and took him away. He does what they tell him to do at that moment.
question, without any knowledge about it. He's making it seem like I didn't know really what's going on. Then they're like, "Well, what about why was it uh safer on your plane than the other plane?" He's like, "No, my the plane I was on was actually a bigger bigger threat bigger risk." He's just making [ __ ] up. And then he turns it all about his own ego in the end. "I'm the most consequential president of all time." He is a [ __ ] coward who did not care if those people died on Air Force One.
I don't agree with you there. I truly believe he did what our Secret Service said, "Come on, you're going on this other airplane." But when they said
is fine. Why let the other plane take off with all those people on it? What were they supposed to do? Slip all of them out the backside, too, on a smaller plane?
That plane doesn't take off. Right. Have them sit there for an hour on the runway. The other plane has taken off. Once the threat is gone, they're like, "We're going to put you all on a different plane, too. Sorry. Make up some lie about mechanical difficulties or something. There's for some reason Air Force One can't take off." There was no reason to put them in the air.
Yeah, what I'm trying to say is I believe that the threat was already gone by then. He was on the other airplane and then the big airplane with all the reporters and all the staff could take off.
Mhm. I don't think we would do that to our American people. You don't think Trump would put Americans in harm's way? No, I I don't think our government would. I don't think they would have put that plane up if they knew it was going to be shot down.
That's Trump's decision. No, it would have been who was ever bringing them all home. That's Trump's decision. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Trump was off of the big plane, got on the other plane.
Yeah. But whatever the case actually is, and we don't know all the fine details of it, obviously. Here's what's happened. The news has come out that he snuck out of Air Force One on a catering car to go to another plane, leaving everybody else to die. That is what is now in the news.
That's not the way I see it. And but, you know, the way I see it, no one died, everybody was saved. It's a good day.
Of course. But the perception of the American president matters. How he is perceived globally. He is now viewed as a [ __ ] coward.
Because they put him in another airplane? Yes. No, not because they put him in another airplane, because he left those other people to die while he escaped. That's why he's a coward.
I don't see it like that. I see it like that plane was not going to take off until they knew that the threat was gone.
Okay. Well, um we see it differently. We sure do. And that's okay. is going to wrap up today's show. Thank you Mom for joining me. I'm sure we'll be talking about this catering thing on Sunday. I'm curious to see what Haley has to say about it.
Yes. But the big takeaway from today, in my opinion, is Todd Blanche, you thought let's wait and see what he's going to do. We have now seen what he's done. Day one, he tries to give blanket immunity to Donald Trump for all of his crimes and make it impossible for him to be investigated.
And I'm going to Google and try to find where I saw that he has released a bunch more and taken the redacted names out and all that. Maybe I was dreaming it. I don't know.
No, a judge got some of the files that supposedly were unredacted, and we don't know what was in those. But the whole idea where he's like, well, that was half of the files or that other half of them that we haven't put out or just duplicate files. Then release them."
Yes. Why not release them? Let us see for ourselves that they're duplicates. I totally agree. Cuz they're not duplicates. He's [ __ ] lying and covering up this whole thing. And I think, as Trump's personal defense attorney, he probably has been doing it for a long time. And so he now, too, is criminally implicated in all of this. Which is why he's issuing this thing saying, "Not only can you not look at Trump's uh communications with people, you can't look at any communications with Trump." Meaning, all the [ __ ] I've sent him also off-limits. He has he has blanketed himself in this as well.
I'm going to Google before we podcast again. All right. These are criminals. Okay. Trying to get away with the biggest crime in American history.
That's what you believe. We'll see. Um I mean, that's what's happening. [snorts] What? Please don't ever open the show with me again with your head down on the desk, me [laughter] thinking that you were having a seizure, and me having to call 911 on you.
I can't make any promises on that. I have a lot of magic cards to make. [laughter] That's Anyways. I was ready to call the LA 911.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you didn't. I'm alive and well. Love you, too. Tell Dad I love him. Haley, I know you're working hard out there. I love you as well. And uh we will see you on Sunday with a full show of the top six political issues of the week.
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