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Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. It's just me and my mom again today. Best American flag ball cap. Top of the morning. Um We use these midweek episodes to show each other clips from the opposite sides of the spectrum to see if maybe we can at least expose one another to information we wouldn't otherwise be getting in our little bubbles. Before we jump into the clips that I prepared and the clips you prepared, I do have a very interesting clip. This is a clip from uh a guy named Robert Dunne on Instagram. His Instagram handle is @itsrobertdunne. He has been making parody videos of this show where he impersonates each one of us. Have you seen this? No, I haven't seen this one. Okay. I'm going to play you a This is one of his Instagram reels. Go check him out. I find this hilarious. I'm curious to know what your reaction is. We're going to watch this, then we're going to get into some more political stuff, but this I just found absolutely hilarious. Here we go. Okay. Mom, do you think that we should try to stop the asteroid from hitting Earth? I I don't think there's anything coming for us. >> But we've seen it coming for us and several fragments have hit the planet already. Now, we don't know that. Mom, we do. We've had debris hit the Earth already and have calculated a massive asteroid the size of Texas heading toward us. We need to do something about it. >> Oh, yeah, and who the hell's going to pay for it? Who cares who pays for it? Exactly. A bunch of communist dummies wasting tax dollars on So, what do we do? Nothing at all? I don't want a dime of my money being spent on this liberal space mission. It's >> Dad, the world is about to end in 2 weeks if we don't do anything. I really don't understand why you're against them funding a rescue mission for the planet. And what? Have a bunch of woke spacemen drilling into a rock? >> You liked the drilling before, but not when it's to save the planet. There's no asteroid and Harry Stamper's a damn idiot. >> Oh, okay. Okay, let's calm down, be respectful. The man is literally willing to risk his life to save the planet. I mean, Mom, what do you make of this? I I think Harry is probably a very nice gentleman, but I I just don't like it. I I don't I don't think we should go there. We should worry about our own country. Dad? I'm going to the bathroom. Oh, that's good. He has made Yeah, it's super funny. He's made a bunch of these um with various things where it's like if basically if Necessary Conversation was in like that one was the movie Armageddon. Um his impersonation of Dad is like 100% accurate in my opinion. >> Right. He's got the head turn from the chair down. So, what do you think of that kind of thing, Mom? I think that's funny. That's okay. Yeah. I I like that kind of stuff. That's funny. And then there's that I've seen a few others where the other guy pulls clips of the things we say and Yeah. and puts a a thing together and that's funny, too. I don't mind that. I mean, that's us. I don't mind that. >> No, I like it. I think it's very flattering and it's also funny. Like the bottom line is that guy is hilarious, I think. The his Dad impersonation is just it like distills down the essence of his just like you. He just puts it right in there. It's so good. So, thanks to Robert Dunn. >> when I saw the towel thing, I go, "Wait a minute, is that my hair?" Yeah, I think it is. >> It was good. puts on a backwards baseball cap for my bald head. He does. Haley has the headphones and I think he puts like a t-shirt over his head for her hair or something. Your hair is the towel and the red cap. And of course Dad has the glasses. >> It was funny. Thank you. Yes. Okay. Well, uh now, let's get to some stuff that's not funny. Do you want to do your clips first or my clips first? I don't care. You know, I really didn't prepare a lot because I thought you and I were going to be doing you said just one main theme now, but apparently we're back to other Yeah, this is not a one main theme. I have one theme that I'm hitting, but You tell me. It doesn't matter. >> You sent me two Charlie Kirk things basically, right? Yeah, that's okay. >> to look at those? They'll be fine. Yeah. Okay. Here is the first clip you sent me about Charlie Kirk. There is a massive update in the Charlie Kirk case. Who killed him, of course. Tyler Robinson is behind bars and now ATF is saying they cannot match up the bullet that was used to kill Charlie Kirk with the rifle that they are pinning to Tyler Robinson. Wild day in this what is now I think the greatest conspiracy of our lifetime. New court filing, the bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk does not match the rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson. The murder weapon and the alleged murder weapon are not the same weapon. This is not a minor evidentiary dispute. If the bullet doesn't match the gun, the prosecution's case has a fundamental problem. Joe Kent, which we've been reporting on, said on Tucker Carlson that the NCTC investigation into Kirk's death was stopped. Kent said Kirk's last words to him were stop us from getting into a war with Iran. The investigation was stopped and now the bullet doesn't match the gun. Can you guys believe this? But here's Candace Owens again, kind of vindicated. We don't know who killed Charlie Kirk, but we know he's dead, right? There's so many different theories. Did Turning Point USA know? Again, there's no evidence of that, but there's certainly evidence that this might be a job done by people that wanted Charlie Kirk's voice to be removed from the discussion around the pending war. >> recorded and documented every piece of this case. I have been meticulous about this. There is an overwhelming You love to use that word. It is There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that the feds set this kid up as a patsy. Everyone in the town, all the local sheriff departments, the SWAT team, they believe that the feds came in and they started lying and they were sending people on wild goose chase and they uh you know, said the gun was here and they said it was over there. There was no gun. They didn't want the bomb dogs to go in a certain places. Like I said, I am not getting this information from people that do not have the credibility to assert that. That's how I got the pictures inside of the car. Okay, I'm speaking to people with first hand intimate knowledge and they all believe that the feds set this up. I want to find Charlie's real killer. I don't Jeez, how about that? I tell you what, say what you want about Candace Owens, if hits the fan, you want her on your side. Now, my question that I don't have any answers to is if this was a situation where they were killing Charlie Kirk, if the government was taking him out, they couldn't have found an easier way to do it? Mhm. So, I don't look at the clips when you send them to me. I literally take the link, download the video and throw them in here. Do you know who that guy is? Well, at first I saw it and I really liked the clip. Then when I went and looked, I think he's a comedian, right? His name is Dave Neal. I know him. >> Yes, he's a comedian who uh kind of came to prominence online by covering The Bachelor. So, I know him from that world of covering reality TV. And then in the past maybe year or so, he started covering kind of more generally uh pop culture, specifically the Justin Baldoni Blake Lively case and he kind of started moving into politics and stuff too. So, now he covers a wide variety of stuff, but I know him pretty well from um our Bachelor coverage and stuff. >> Well, when I >> on his show multiple times. He's been on ours. Really? When I clicked on it, I thought everything he just said made sense to me. Mhm. And where he said if you want uh if you have going off or whatever, she needs to be in your corner. I believe that. >> Yeah. Even though a lot of people thought she was whacked out and crazy in the beginning, a lot of things that she is saying is true. You want her in your corner. And yeah, that guy when I first saw it this morning, I saw that clip this morning. I go, "Ooh, I like that. I'm going to send it to Chad." Then when I Googled and looked up on his whatever it's called, it said he was a comedian. Yeah, he does stand up, but he also we've me and Lizzie, my co-host on my other show Game of Roses, we went to one of his stand-up shows not Oh, I guess maybe it's a couple years old now. But yeah, I don't remember when the last time I was on his show, but I've been on his show a couple times. He's been on ours a couple of times for sure. >> Wow. So, did you send Did you telepathically send that to me or I don't think so. But I mean, the the bigger thing say what you will about Candace Owens, I don't know how much she actually knows about any of this. Is she going into crazy conspiracy town, whatever? I don't know. But that reporting that the bullet doesn't match the gun, that is real and mainstream reporting. That is yes. Okay. So, now let's really dig into this. You believe something fishy is going on with the Charlie Kirk murder. I think most people do. Everybody does. Yes. And now there's this reporting coming out that that bullet doesn't match the gun. So, is this kid a patsy? Is he somehow involved in the actual thing? We don't know. But what we are starting to piece together is that not everything is what the government is telling us with regard to this assassination. And if if the bullet doesn't match the gun, which is what they're saying, that kid's going to get off. He'll probably get off, and he was not the one that did it. >> will he get killed though? Ooh, I don't know. >> have that kid around talking. Right now he's in jail, so he can't talk. But the the kind of bigger piece to this in my opinion is can you then see how if this assassination was fake or it's being covered up by the government or perpetrated by the government or whatever the case may be. Can you not take the extra half an inch step to think that maybe the assassination attempt against Trump when he was on the campaign trail was fake? I don't believe that. I do believe that was true. I don't know why. I just do. Why can you accept that the Charlie Kirk assassination that there is some element of a lie here being told to us by the government? But with Trump's you can't believe it. >> I've watched more of that like frame by frame by frame and I've read more about that I guess. Maybe I need to go back and revisit the Trump thing that you want me to revisit and read more about that. But you you know some of the elements of it. For example, his ear when he had the big bandage on it and then it was completely healed in a week. You have multiple ex-military snipers talking about how if that bullet hits any part of you it's tearing off your body. That from that caliber of a rifle. You have the video of the Secret Service agent ushering photographers into place to take the picture as the American flag is being lowered behind him. Okay, I've never read that. I've never read that. >> I've never read that part where a tiny piece would have blown his whole ear off. I've never I promise you I will go maybe not tonight. I'm a little busy, but I'll look into that more for you. I will. Okay. Well, shout out to Dave Neil. You made it on Necessary Conversation, man. That was crazy. I can't believe it. >> Yeah, no he's great. I thought everything he said I was like I believe all that. I'm sending this to Chad. Yeah, no he's fantastic. Um one of the hardest working people in reality TV coverage in my opinion. >> Why hasn't he on the Nesser conversation yet? You want me to see if he wants to come on here? Yeah. Well, I mean, don't we have to do a a right-leaning person next? >> Yes. Well, we have to do Mr. too. I think he'll come. >> All right, let's play your >> me, by the way. He did mention me. And Dad. Oh, that clip that other long clip you sent me. It was talking about Nesser conversation. >> We were mentioned that we would have his back and throw down that uh Democratic guy that's saying bad things about him. Okay. Um let's move on to your second clip. This one is I don't know what this is. Here we go. >> I don't need it. >> this Drusky? I don't think I sent that to you, did I? I think you did. Here it is. I can't remember if I sent that to you. >> after Drusky roasted Erica Kirk, she hit back with three moves that cost him big. Drusky dropped a parody video that copied Erica's look from her hairstyle to her shoes. He even mimicked her exaggerated fist gestures and over the top dramatic expressions. It was super satirical, but Drusky had no idea what was coming next. First, Puse's legal team is reviewing whether the video counts as defamation or illegal use of her likeness for profit. If Drusky's video had brand sponsorships, Erica's professional team could file claims and lawsuits that could exceed $1 million in damages. Next, Erica's team posted pics of her late husband with captions like, "He gave everything for this country, and now someone's mocking his wife." They turned a comedy roast into an attack on her as a widow, and Erica made it clear Drusky was really going after conservative values, not just her. Finally, TPUSA, as a professional political organization, posted comparison videos on their official accounts calling Drusky's imitation clumsy and biased. They urged supporters to check out Erica's political fundraiser, turning all the attention into donations, who Okay. I don't know. Like, did he go too far? Could they come back on him? No. No? How can they It's a a parody. It's comedy. Right. Kind of like what the guy just did with us. That was funny. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, what's your problem here? It's not my problem, but they said she's got a problem with it and she can come back on him now for something maybe. For what? What did it say? It said something. He never In that video, to my knowledge, he never said, "I'm Erica Kirk." He never even says explicitly that he's parodying her. Clearly, he is, but it it's it's comedy. Yeah, making fun. Yeah. Will Will Ferrell did a whole uh hour-long stand-up special on HBO as George Bush Jr. I remember >> or maybe like right after he was president. Where he dressed up like him, looked like him, made fun of him. Mhm. >> You the It's there's still his First Amendment. You cannot sue I mean, you can, I guess. If you can find a lawyer to issue the lawsuit, then you can sue anybody for anything. But, I just don't think there's a chance she would win that. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. I love that Druski thing. It's Something happened, I think, in this country when Do you remember when Kathy Griffin was on the cover of that magazine holding a severed Trump head? Yes. And everybody was like, "Oh my god." And they had to take it down. She had to apologize, and she lost all of her jobs, and blah blah blah. I think that moment It's been slow to come back around, but I think we're back around to the point now where we will all accept as a society that you can make stuff that maybe slightly offensive to the person you're making fun of, and it's okay. But, I don't see holding the head of Donald Trump with blood gushing out. That's not funny to me. To me, that would not be That would not be funny. Doesn't matter if it's funny to you or not. You constantly are claiming Trump is joking, and you find what he says funny. I don't find any of it funny ever. But, it's not with um killing someone or shooting someone or cutting someone's head off. They literally post videos. They post memes to the official White House account of them murdering people. I know you keep saying that. I do not see that. Go to Instagram and go to the White House account. It's all over their page. Okay, I will look. I've looked. I don't see it. You tell me there's Nazi things on there. I've never seen it. Go to White House's official Instagram account. There are multiple memes of them blowing people up. Now, I've seen stuff on it. >> about this on Sunday. I've seen I've seen like X on stuff on X. Sometimes it's kind of weird, but okay. So, when you're saying that yeah, Trump says all these jokes and stuff, but it's not about murdering people. They literally are putting videos of them murdering people on the official White House account as memes. So, you're wrong in that. I guess, but I've never seen them, so I'll have to go look. Okay. Let's move on. I have two videos for us. The first one is a compilation of Donald Trump and various Republican Republicans during the election campaign, the most recent one, talking about the possibility of war with Iran and what they thought about it then. Here we go. This is not comedy. >> of peace. I am peace. You can vote for me. Thank you. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for a man who wants to end wars, not start them. >> We do not want war with Iran. We actually want peace. The Iranians are clearly not very good at war. Perhaps they should follow President Trump's lead and give peace a chance. >> Kamala is campaigning with warmongers like Liz Cheney. How do you think that is? She picks Liz Cheney, whose father virtually destroyed the Middle East. You know, this genius talks about going, "Oh, I want war." She always wants war. Every time I was with her in the White House, "We should attack this nation, that nation." Nations that people never even heard of we should attack. Some big big tough guy. He sits back in Washington, "Oh, we ought to go and attack Iran, Iraq. We're going to attack everybody." That's why I broke up with her. All she wanted to do is go to war with everybody. These war hawks, they wanted your after your kids to die in wars and they will never fight themselves. You know, we'll stay around the country for 15 years, just bomb the hell out of everybody, make everybody miserable. Nobody knows why we're there, you know, the wars that never end. These endless wars that we've been in, I've gotten us out of so many. We don't want to get into wars. We're tired of fighting. I'm the only president in the last 84 years that didn't start a war. Under Trump, we will have no more wars. No more wars. No more wars. We will have prosperity and peace. We will have prosperity and we will have peace. Remember, I'm the president of peace. They said he will start a war. I'm not going to start a war. I'm going to stop wars. He's going to start a war. I said, "No, no, no. My rhetoric is going to keep us out of wars." And that's what happened. My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker. That's what I want to be, a peacemaker. We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end and perhaps most importantly the wars we never get into. Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective. I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected. Isn't it pathetic? Okay. So, that was a compilation of multiple videos of Trump from his various campaigns insulting other presidents because he thought they would go to war with Iran. That clip, I think he was talking about was uh Obama back in the day, which never happened. It's multiple clips of him in his campaign saying he will never go to war. He's a peacetime president. >> gave um gave them >> Nope. Nope. Nope. a lot of money. Nope. Yes, they did. >> Trump. He said they could sell their oil, billions of dollars. I really feel, Chad, I mean, I saw everything he said. I understand all of that. I really feel he felt that our backs were up against a wall, that they were getting very close to having something to take us all out. Okay. You saw all of those things he said. You saw all of it. >> my prediction within the next 2 weeks this war will be done. They're very close to it being over. Irrelevant. You saw everything I just played you was him saying he will not get into war with Iran. How I don't know how many clips that was in that compilation. 20? 30? He has done the exact thing he promised not to do. He did it. Things change. He had to do it for our security and the security of the United States. In what way? How has it made us more secure? We have not had a bomb hit us yet, have we? Did we have one before the war? They were getting close, very close. No, that's not true. We have no evidence to that end. In fact, the guy who quit his job at as the head of the counterterrorism center said in fact there's no evidence that they had any capability. Joe Kennedy >> That also had to do with him giving information to uh other side and our FBI getting on him pretty close here and so he thought he had to resign maybe. >> Where are you getting the information from that leads you to believe Iran was going to attack us? Uh the president himself. Okay. Uh Vance. >> Okay, Vance. He was in that video, too. Uh-huh. They are lying to you. They lied to you in that video when they said they wouldn't start a war with Iran and they were trying to use the idea of war with Iran to paint Democrats as the war hawks. Democrats want to start a war with Iran. We won't do that. Now they've done it. So they clearly lied to you multiple times in that campaign. Don't you think they could be lying to you now about the reasons they went into the war? I would hope not. But they are. Of course we all hope that the politicians don't lie to us, but they I'm showing this video to establish there's a clear track record of these exact people, the ones you just mentioned. Trump, J.D. Vance, Tulsi Gabbard was in that video, the the head of Homeland Security, or head of National Intelligence. I think I do think for security things change. He's going to be speaking tonight. I want to hear him speak tonight what he's going to say on TV. I do want to hear what he's going to say tonight. I can tell you what he's going to say. >> better not say he's on the ground. >> We're in good negotiations. Na na na na na. He's going to lie some more. I want to listen to him. >> good negotiations. Iran has said we're not negotiating with him. I don't know what the he's talking about. So who's lying there? We're going to hear tonight what he says. I want your take right now. Trump says he's having good negotiations with Iran. Iran is saying we are not negotiating with him at all. I I Who's lying? >> I believe my president. I believe my president. >> they are negotiating and Iran is lying about it? Yes, I do. Okay. Why would they lie? Because they kill their people in the street and hang them and don't give a crap and hate America. And so why would they lie? Because they hate America. What's the benefit of the lie? Against Trump. They hate him, too. >> But if they are negotiating with Donald Trump to end the war, you believe that's really happening? No, I think the war will end one way or another. >> Trump has said they're negotiating. Yes, that could be one way it would end. >> Hang on. >> Another way if we go to war and bomb everything. Okay. Trump has said they're negotiating. Yes. They are saying that's not true. They are lying. Why? Because they don't like us and they hate Trump. >> That doesn't make sense. If we're negotiating and I'm going to explain to you why it makes no actual sense. Okay. >> If we are negotiating with them to end this war Yes. >> and that negotiation results in an end to it, some kind of ceasefire, an agreement, a contract is written. Right. Why would they lie about it if they have to adhere to whatever the negotiation states? I think tonight when he speaks it's going to tell a lot. You're not answering my question. >> out of out of the president's >> my question. Say it again. We are negotiating with Iran. To end the war. You believe that's happening because Trump has told you that, right? Yes. So in the end of that negotiation if it comes to a a point where like, okay, we made an agreement, the war is over now, we're going to withdraw our troops, you guys agree to not do nuclear weapons or whatever the agreement is. Right. >> That will be a a global piece of news. That treaty or agreement or whatever will be in place. Iran will have to abide by it. Right. >> Or break it if they choose, I suppose. But the idea that they are down this road on these negotiations is now put out into public. Trump has stated it. If it was true, don't you think they would also agree that that is happening, knowing that eventually they're going to have to abide by whatever the negotiation produces? No, because they lie a lot. They lie Then why would we be in negotiations at all with them if they're meaningless? Like I said, I don't trust them. I don't trust that country. They lie. I trust them. >> Our president. Then why be in negotiations? Like if if Trump gets them to agree to end the war, whatever that means, if they constantly lie, why negotiate with somebody that can't be trusted at all? If they can just go back on the negotiations. I We will see. I'm not sure that negotiations will ever work with this country. I'm really not sure. Now that we >> trying to just get you to understand what is Who is most likely lying here, and it is not Iran. They There is no benefit for them to lie about this. Trump has a massive benefit to lie about it for his base, so that you think he's doing everything possible to end this horrible war that he himself started for no reason. He is not going to lie to us. I do not believe. You have admitted on this very program that he lies constantly to the American people. No, that's not why. Constantly? >> Okay. Let's watch this next video. Here we go. Here's what they said on the campaign trail. Trump advisor Stephen Miller on X, Liz Cheney is Kamala's top advisor. Liz wants to invade the whole Middle East. Kamala equals World War III. Trump equals peace. Tulsi Gabbard, October 28, 2024. A vote for Kamala Harris is a vote for Dick Cheney and a vote for war. War and more war. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote to end wars, not start them. Miller also wrote, "Kamala will send your sons to war." J.D. Vance 2023 on the Wall Street Journal. Trump's best foreign policy? Not starting any wars. He has my support because I know he won't recklessly send Americans to fight wars overseas. The Republican National Committee promoted Trump Vance is the pro-peace ticket. Trump on October 30th, 2024. They're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, in quote, "Oh gee, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy." Pete Hegseth, December 2025 speech, "Our department will not be distracted by democracy building interventionism, undefined wars and regime change." Every single one of these things is a complete lie. Don't forget, you're you're missing a great one. During the Biden administration, Trump said, "This president is going to drive us into war because he doesn't know how to negotiate." Oh, I think he said it into war with Iran because he doesn't know how to negotiate. Well, here we are. Okay. So, I'm not the only person saying these are all lies. Everybody sees it. Why don't you? >> I really feel, too, that he is ending a war that's been going on since 19, what, '79? He's trying to end this for good. 7:00 starts the bad weather. Okay. I'm almost done. Hi. I've got We got to wrap it up in a little bit due to the fact we're having really bad weather and I've got to get out to Cheyenne back, but >> weather. Let me get back. I I totally think he's doing this for the security of our United States or he would not be doing it. Now that we have troops over there, they're not on the ground yet and I pray to God he doesn't do that. Now that we have people over there, I have to support this. I You've been saying that. I don't care about military >> Fine. Fine. Fine. I don't care. >> in 2 weeks. 2 more weeks. But it should have never happened in the first place. It has thrown the global economies into chaos. >> I said that in the beginning that I wish that that country could take care of their own war and that we wouldn't have to go into hell or whatever. >> Huh? What war are you talking about? Killing their people in the streets, killing their protesters for no reason. We're doing that here. No, we're not. What are you talking about? ICE literally killed two of them. We did multiple episodes about this. I don't I don't want to talk about that. You are talking about it. You brought it up. We are not killing our own in the streets. We are not hanging people for no reason. >> What happened to Alex Pretty and Renee Good? We've talked about that. They were killed literally in the streets. Yeah, she should have got out of the car or she would be alive. He took a gun. Why was he taking a gun if he's a nurse and he's helping people? >> to these talking points that don't matter. Fine. They're protesters, just like you said in Iran. And you need to just follow instructions and you will live. They did not. >> Okay. Well, why aren't the people in Iran following instructions? You're pissed about them. >> government Their government doesn't give a crap and is going to kill them anyway. What's the difference between Iran killing protesters in the streets and the US doing it? I don't feel that we killed people in the street on purpose. Iran did. You think it was accidental that ICE agents drew guns and fired multiple times into people's faces? They gave her directions to get out of the car. But you're saying they didn't kill her on purpose. A man shot her three times. She still would be alive. She ran the car into him. No, she didn't. He's fine. Never even went to the hospital. Yes, he did go to the hospital. That is documented. It's documented, Chad. He did go to the >> was fine. No broken bones. And she would have been fine, too. I don't want her I didn't want her dead. I don't want anyone dead. Just get out of the car. So, what about the protesters in Iran? Their government is just saying, "Okay." Iran is saying to the protesters, "Don't protest. Just stay home." Why aren't they following directions? No, the guys the the three that were hung, they did a small they were involved with a small protest or something, but then went out of the country. When they said, "You come back into the country, we're going to kill your family." Okay. Then when they came back in, they hung them. Why didn't they follow directions? Don't know. How is that different than Alex Pretty and Renee Good? I think it's very different. How? Follow directions. How is that different? We are not killing people in the street. Alex Pretty and Renee Good were literally killed in a literal street. ICE agents were trying to tell them to directions to get out of the car. ICE agents were trying to get another person that was very close inside that house, and they needed those people to get out of the way. You know, the illegal immigrants that are killing people. I don't know like you're clearly not aware of of what's happening, but watching you do this, say these things, and have to do these crazy mental gymnastics to justify American government murdering protesters while at the same time condemning the Iranian government for murdering protesters, I don't know how you're doing it. Um but you are and I think it has to do >> I don't like our American citizens being murdered by illegal immigrants, either. Okay. I don't like an 83-year-old veteran of the Korean War standing in front of a subway and being pushed into the subway and killed Uh-huh. by um by a person that had been in jail 13 times in and out and shouldn't even been in the United States. So, I give ICE every opportunity to get those people out of here. Even if it means killing US citizens who have no criminal record. No, I say grab the illegal immigrants and get them out of here. So, that they don't kill our people. Right, but ICE is killing them. >> what ICE was doing the day that she was in her car. No, ICE was killing her the day she was in her car. Okay. That's what you think. No, that's what happened. She's dead. ICE shot her. That's on video. ICE was trying to get someone else and she was an agitator and got in the way. Right, but what you're doing here is justifying ICE's killing of US citizens and condemning You Yes, you are. You said they had to do it to get to whoever they were trying to get. She would have been alive if she would have got out of the car. >> Right, you're making excuses No excuse. So, whose fault is it that Renee Good got shot. I wish she would have got out of the car. She'd still be alive. Whose fault is it that Renee Good is dead? I'm not going to pin it on the ICE agent. Whose fault is it? Both. Okay. 50/50? Yes. She should have got out of the car. She car shouldn't have bumped him. His gun shouldn't have went off. Both. His gun shouldn't have went off? Correct. You That makes it sound like it was accidental. He pulled the gun, aimed it, and pulled the trigger three times. And she shouldn't have >> go off. >> him with the car. Okay. Whose fault is it that Alex Petti is dead? I guess if I was going to go protest and I was a nurse, and supposedly he was going to go help people, and he was there to help people, why take a gun? Why did Kyle Rittenhouse take a gun? You believe he's a hero. Same. Same. Whose fault is it that Alex Petti is dead? >> It's everybody's fault. Your fault then? Yeah. It's everybody's fault. Now you're just devolving because you're you're in this argument where you know you don't have a leg to stand on, and so now you're just saying everything is everybody's fault. I think the ICE agents are doing a very good job, and they need to continue. All right. Well, um you successfully dodged all of these questions, I think, strangely. I mean, even seeing a full 2-minute montage of Trump saying he's never going to start a war, and people presidents who go to war with Iran are weak and bad negotiators, and he's doing all of the things that he was condemning in his campaign trail. You watched that whole video. He had to do it for American people. >> Right. You're making an excuse for him. Okay, fine. I am. And now you're just checking out completely. Think about this, Mom. Think about the fact that for multiple years Trump was saying going to war with Iran is bad and any president who does it is a terrible president. I'll never do that. I'm a peacetime president. I'm going to not start unnecessary wars. >> Chad. Things change in politics everything. >> Yes, but that >> Our security as the United States has changed. >> Fine. Things change. But you're using that idea, things change, as an excuse to allow Trump to do whatever he wants. If Haley and I would use an excuse like that for any Democratic politician, you obviously wouldn't accept it. Maybe not. Maybe not. What are you doing now? You're just checking out of this? You're done? >> go take care of Shiny. We have tornadoes coming. Okay. Good luck with the tornadoes. Thank you for joining us. Um I'm Mom is done with this one. >> But I really have to run. This has been fun. I have to go take care of my red pony. All right. I love you, too. Thank you for doing this. Thank you to @itsrobertdunn for the incredible parody videos. You can check him out on Instagram. And as my mom said, things change. I love you, Chad. Things change. >> Bye. Bye.