Is Trump's Demolition of the White House Symbolic of His Destruction of America?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule. Now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coulson. With me today is a full family. My sister Haley, a fellow lefty living deep in the heart of Texas >> making some hand gestures there. And my mom and dad. Maggas to the core. >> And he loved us. You still left the sticker on. >> Oh, did I? >> Yeah. >> No, that's cool. >> I thought that was part of the hat. Shout out to to Norman Rosco in Denton, Texas, who makes all of my merch. >> They do all of the printing. It's a local company. Just wanted to throw that out there because I really like them and they do a solid job. >> Nice. Well, welcome to the show. We have a lot to get to. Mom, do you want to begin the show with your patented ditties? >> I have some weird ones and I don't really have a patriot of the week year month, but okay. I got shout out to Glenn and Judy. Hello Glenn. Thanks for watching the podcast. He texted me yesterday. He's in Nebraska. Ran into a friend of mine named Judy who I used to play tennis with. Hello. Okay. Now, see, I'm kind of all disembbled here. Okay. >> Disboint USA All-American halftime show. Woo. So, we don't have to watch Mr. Bunny if we don't want to watch Mr. Bunny. >> It's gonna I actually think that you will enjoy it. >> Why would I enjoy someone who hates America, who told me I have to learn Spanish uh in four months so I can understand his show >> and dresses like a woman half of the time. >> Listen, Bad Bunny watching Mr. Bunny. >> Bad Bunny is a tremendous entertainer. Okay, I will be turning on the Turning Point USA All-American halftime show with Alan Jackson, George Straight, Willie Nelson, and Trace Atkins, just to name a few. That's what I will be doing. >> Okay. >> Um the the people that stole the crown jewels at the Lou. Um Yes, they got them. >> Yeah, it's >> they got them. >> Yes. One guy was getting ready to board an airplane to um Algeria. >> They caught him and then they got the other guy and it's just a weird robbery. They were dis disguised as construction workers, but they got him as of last night. Yeah. Weird >> to do it in broad daylight, too. >> Yeah. >> And then um you know how I love animals. So, as I'm at the barn, um my best friend there was talking about how the barn kitties bring in rat tails as presents and show her the rat tails and how uh it was kind of, you know, she didn't like it. Rat tails. So, rat tails were on my mind. I come home, I look out the back window, I go, "Oh my god, I didn't have on my glasses. I thought it was a rat." Rat. >> I go, "Oh my god." I go get my glasses on. I have a fourth generation bunny rabbit that came to the back door for carrots. I had stopped feeding carrots a couple days ago because we have possums in the backyard. So, I thought uh and now I'm doing what Chad did with his squirrels. He did fourth or fifth generation squirrels and now I'm on fourth generation bunnies and they're coming to my back door. >> That's great. >> Do you love polar bears? >> I love all animals >> cuz they're all about to die thanks to Donald Trump. She's getting right into it. >> Oh, you're just moving right in there to get >> that was not a topic today, but yes, he's uh opening all of the Alaskan wildlife preserves for drilling. >> Nice. Okay, that's all my diddies. Kind of they were kind of weird, I told you. >> Indeed. Moving on. We like to open the show every week with a question from a listener. If you'd like to send us a question, please record it >> in a one minute or shorter video clip. >> Are you okay there? I don't Yeah, I got allergies to something. I don't know. >> Please record your questions in a one minute or shorter video clip. Send it to the necessary conversation pod atgmail.com. I go through them all and we're thinking we're getting so many now that I can only pick one per episode, but we are thinking of potentially doing an extra episode maybe every other week where we just answer a bunch of questions and that might be part of like a YouTube premium subscription or something. hit me up with a DM on necessary conversation pod if that would appeal to you. Um, okay. Are you ready for our question this week? >> Yes. >> Here we go. >> Hello everyone. Firstly, love the pod. I am obsessed. I've been watching so many videos. Like the whole backlog. Haley, your skin is amazing. But my question is for Mary Lou. I am I've just finished the No Kings Wednesday episode and I was dying for somebody to say this to you. Obviously, you were saying that people that were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death and his murder like deserve to be in jail for that. That those people that are celebrating death deserve to go to jail. So my question is, should your husband be in jail? Bob has repeatedly called for the genocide of millions of Palestinian people. He says over and over again, "The metal's going to hit the meat one day and we're all gonna start shooting. Should Bob be in jail?" Let me know. I'd love to know. Thanks. >> There you go. That's the question of the week. Mom, in our Wednesday episode, which if you don't know, if you're just listening to this, there are extra episodes on Wednesdays on our YouTube channel. In that episode this Wednesday, You you what are you guys doing there? >> Nothing. Go ahead. >> In that episode this Wednesday, you said anybody who celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder is a waste of skin and should be in jail. The question is, "Dad celebrates murder all the time, almost every episode. Should he be in jail?" >> He just whispered and gave me permission that he could go to jail. That would be fine. And that I would bail him out. >> He was whispering to me. And to your and to your listener, the difference the difference between me and Charlie Kirk people. >> Yeah. >> The people I want to kill are [ __ ] gross anyway. >> Okay. >> Um like Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I did say that. He does provoke that sometimes and say that. So, yes, he should go to jail. I would bail him out in the next minute. He's my husband. I would >> just like probably those people would do the same for them. Nobody goes to jail for freedom of speech, just FYI. >> But I don't I don't I hear dad's words. I hear him say it sometimes, >> which those protesters did, too. But then but then their physical action, that's the part that made me vile and sick. You want me to go to you you want me to go to jail for killing murderers as opposed to Charlie Kirk's people who are defending the right that he shouldn't have been uh >> assassinated. >> Dad, you have said on this podcast that you want to see the death of babies. >> Of what? >> Babies. >> Babies. >> If it if they're Palestinians, yeah. Li, line them up and shoot him. >> Okay, I arrest my case, your honor. Um, thank you for your question. There you have the answer. My mom does think my dad should be in jail, but would bail him out. All right, are you ready to dive into this week? We've got a lot of uh pretty crazy topics to get to. >> Yes. Go. >> Let's begin. Topic number one is the White House. Goodbye. This week, Trump destroyed the iconic east wing of the White House to make way for a 90,000 square foot $300 million ballroom back in July of this year when he announced plans for the ballroom. Trump lied to America when he said, quote, "It won't interfere with the current building. It won't be it will be near it, but not touching it, and it pays total respect to the existing building." >> The East Wing contained office space. >> All that is true. Let him let him. >> The east wing contained office space for the first ladies and their staffs. The social events and tours entrance for the White House. The White House family theater as well as other offices. The presidential emergency operations center aka the secure bunker was designed to protect and hide the president in times of emergency sat under the east wing and is now likely to be upgraded as it will sit under the ballroom just as Hitler's bunker sat underneath a ballroom at the Reich Chancellory. Trump has publicly claimed that the >> What's that got to do with the White House? >> We'll have that discussion. Trump has publicly >> time. >> Okay. Trump has publicly claimed that the $300 million construction cost for the ballroom will come from private donors who reportedly include Amazon, Apple, Google, Meta, Microsoft, and Palunteer among others. Lawmakers fear this is more corruption in plain sight. >> Okay. >> My first question is, let's go with dad. Do you care that Trump is demolishing the White House? >> He's not demolishing the White House. He's actually improving the White House. >> 100%. >> And yes, I do approve of it. And I wish he'd do some more. >> What else would you like him to add something on to the ballroom, too? It ain't costing me a dime. >> Well, where do you think that money is going to come from? >> Private donors. Those private donors >> already hatched. The money's in the [ __ ] bank. >> Quit yelling. >> Uhhuh. Mom, how do you think? Well, let me ask you. Are you okay with this? >> Yes. I think it's wonderful. >> Why is that? When you see those pictures of the White House demolished to have a nice ballroom, >> beautiful place. >> He doesn't need the ballroom. >> Sorry, Haley. Go ahead. Don't you guys defend uh you know when they were taking down like Confederate statues and [ __ ] aren't Didn't you try to defend that and say that's just part of history? You should leave it up. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> So, what's the difference? >> What did he What's he tearing down? You guys are confused. He's adding a room to the White. >> No, he ripped down an entire wing. >> Oh, no. He >> Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Dad, you don't think he destroyed the east wing of the White House? >> No. >> You think it's still there? >> I think part of it still there >> not there. It's not there. >> They promised that they weren't going to do this. Also, they promised. >> Okay. >> On [ __ ] air, they said, "We're not going to do anything to the White House. We're just adding [ __ ] Only additions." >> They completely [ __ ] overhauled the East Wing. It's gone. And the ballroom is twice the size of the actual White House. >> Here's what I think. >> Mom, hang on. Hang on. Mom, I know you're just waiting to dump your points, but try to have this conversation with us. >> What do you think about the lie he told that he would not touch the White House and now he has destroyed half of it. >> He didn't say he wouldn't touch the White House, did he? >> Yes, he did. Caroline Levit came on on air and said like, "We're not going to demolish anything. We're only It's only additions. Only adding [ __ ] >> This is his quote. This is a direct quote. >> They're not touching the White House. >> I won't interfere with the current building. It won't be. It will be near it, but not touching it. And it pays total respect to the existing building. >> He's talking about the White House. >> Yeah. >> And it will be near it, but it won't be touching it. >> Like the West Wing, the the He didn't lie to you. >> He lied to you. He lied to everyone. You just like you just like confusing things. >> You didn't even think that the east wing was destroyed. You were telling me it still existed 10 minutes ago. >> What are you talking about? >> It is. It is. They've wiped it out. At first I thought it was just part of it. It kept showing just the front part of it, but now it is all down. What I think is is hypocritical kind of and funny about this. >> And why is it why is it important to you? You don't like the government anyway. You guys didn't say a word when they were tearing down like Christopher Columbus statues, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Roberty Lee, all of those >> those aren't the White House >> tore down in different places. >> The image of it, the the symbolic image of it is that Donald Trump is destroying the most iconic piece of American architecture that exists. Wish I wished I had the picture that shows Barack Obama in 2009, his extravaganza thing during the depths of our recession, then a 376 million taxpayer funded overhaul that included ripping down the White House grounds to install a lavish basketball court so that he would be self-s serving, be able to play on that 376 million that the tax payers paid for. had a a compartment underneath there. >> And at that time it was he did not. And at that time it was funny how CNN CNN would get on there and say, "Oh, this is so wonderful. Oh, this makes the White House look so much better. Oh, and now >> improvements and they're blasting him for a ballroom. He did touch the White House >> instead of instead of putting up uh tents that they've done for years that cost millions of dollars. You know what? When big uh people come from >> It just dawned on me. You and Chad have nothing to say about it because it's not your White House. >> You're you're a communist and you don't you're not an American. >> It's not Trump's White House. >> It's not yours. It's not yours. Shut up. >> What are you talking about? Go ahead. You're speaking gibberish at this point. >> I don't have any right to [ __ ] about it. >> Absolutely we do. We pay taxes. We own that building. >> No, you don't. >> How about as do you? >> You don't. >> We Yes, we do. >> You're a communist. You don't own [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Oh my goodness. >> Let me ask you about this. The the big part of this, there are two things that I think are interesting. One is he's very likely going to be upgrading that bunker to probably include another level just like Dear Hitler >> had under his ballroom. >> That's your opinion. >> No, Hitler had a bunker under a ballroom. That's where he >> No, it's your opinion that he would do that and that you are correlating the two together. >> His main his main uh bunker was in the wolf's lair and there was no ballroom. >> You're 100% wrong. There was a ballroom and then there were two bunkers under it. There was the main level and then his level where he >> told me that. >> That is right. >> That's right. With Hitler, I do remember that. >> Dad, you're just making [ __ ] up and you're wrong about all these things. >> No, I'm not. >> Okay, go on, Chad. The bigger thing is about >> the bigger thing is about the where is the money coming from to build this and the image that it gives when right now like how do you think it looks that he is destroying the White House to build this unnecessary $300 million ballroom while federal employees just missed their first paycheck. Cost of health care just this week has come out in multiple states is going to triple for 17 million American families. and he's demolishing the White House to build his beautiful ballroom with donations from all of the biggest tech companies in the world. Open corruption. >> There's no money coming out of the United States citizens pockets for this. So why not in an uproar? I don't understand. >> Why weren't you in an uproar when we had Biden there and there were trans people flashing their boobies saying all kinds of stuff. >> Um >> what? >> Now you're making [ __ ] up. when he hosted when Biden hosted that White House proud thing >> uh White House proud event on the lands >> on the right there in the White House grounds where was our uproar over that that's just >> there's no uproar because pride is pride and I support that >> but but even beyond that mom >> United States White House having people on it >> having a pride celebration >> in their boobs in broad daylight by >> and it's a man, >> right? >> What? >> Okay, Mom, you're you're bringing up [ __ ] that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Once again, that seems to be your bread and butter on this podcast. What I'm asking about is >> these giant companies giving him hundreds of millions of dollars to build his special little ballroom for himself. >> It's not for him. It's for dignitaries that come from other countries into the United States. >> You know what? He's probably sick and tired of going to foreign countries and seeing these lavish >> Do you not >> lavish rooms and we go back to the United States and our White House is old crappy things? >> Do you not see that this is the ultimate [ __ ] let them eat cake moment? Our entire [ __ ] country is on the brink of like essentially starvation. Like SNAP is going to be gone. Government workers are not receiving [ __ ] funds. They're not going to be able to [ __ ] eat. And this [ __ ] is building a goddamn ballroom for $300 million. Like it ain't [ __ ] Like he doesn't [ __ ] give a [ __ ] In fact, he he wants us to give him $230 million. >> That's another topic. We're going to be talking about that later. >> This is not selferving like the solo. >> You're out of your [ __ ] mind. You're out of your [ __ ] mind. All for him. >> This is for our White House. >> You're full of [ __ ] This is [ __ ] You're like trying to convince yourself. >> Nice. Nice. Nice. >> It's [ __ ] >> Nice. >> The opulence of it all. The gold leaf [ __ ] inside the White House. He's building this addition. He doesn't give a [ __ ] about the American people. >> That will make our country better and the White House better the Trump. >> Is that all the two of you have to [ __ ] about? >> No. We have five more topics. >> The West Wing. I guess I guess we should be proud of that. >> At least people were [ __ ] eating. At least people had their food stamps. Who gives a [ __ ] Who gives a [ __ ] >> I'll take >> Donald Trump is a rapist in the >> Donald Trump raped women. What about that? >> I'll take >> what's worse, getting a [ __ ] or raping women? Which one is worse? >> [ __ ] in the >> You guys always ignore the [ __ ] that Donald Trump is [ __ ] convicted of. >> Oh, he's convicted of making a nice raped women. >> Why ain't he in jail? >> He probably raped children on Epste Island. But you're worried about Bill Clinton? >> Oh my god. Now you you two sat there and go you go down a trail, mom and dad, that we're not talking about. You just did that, too. >> I'm sorry. >> No, Dad. You asked why isn't >> Dad, you asked why isn't he in jail? >> This has nothing to do with [ __ ] Epstein. >> Okay. >> He's a [ __ ] criminal. Wait, wait. I got >> You went off on a different trail and then you accuse us of the same damn thing. The fact is you and Chad are both communist and that's the end of it. >> It's all It's all intertwined. He's a [ __ ] He is a criminal. >> Wait a minute, Dad. You're You've called us communists now about 10 times in this episode. >> Enough. >> Why do you think that? >> Because you're communist. >> Okay. But what led you to that conclusion? Everything you believe and spew out of your mouth is communism, >> which is >> it's what I told you. It's what they call democracy. >> Okay. So, you have no actual facts here to back this up. >> Yeah, I do have a fact. You're a communist. >> Okay. >> As I said, just just spewing nonsense with no basis whatsoever. All right. >> Yeah. So, do you. >> Okay. I literally read you all the facts of every topic that we discuss. Donald Trump was in cahoots with Epstein. >> Okay. Can I see? >> You got all kinds of [ __ ] factual evidence of that. >> There are pictures of that. >> There's photographic evidence, [ __ ] There's like 30 goddamn photos. >> I our show I know you never watch our show on YouTube or look at any of the things that I make. Huh? >> Wasn't on his airplane. It wasn't on his island. So you can all blow it out your ass. You communist. >> He was at his [ __ ] wedding. >> A communist. You got to go. I can't take it. >> It just doesn't make any sense. It's like you're trying to make a joke that nobody's laughing at. >> Nobody say it. >> Shut up. >> What? >> Shut up. >> Don't call him communist. >> Okay. It doesn't bother me. I don't give a [ __ ] >> I don't. It's just pointless. It's just a stupid thing where he's trying to like get one over on us, but it's not working. >> You talking about you talking about Epstein and Donald Trump is worthless. >> And it has no point. >> You know what? I forgot I was gonna open the show with something and it the communism thing kind of gets to it. I want mom right now, >> both you and dad. We're gonna start with dad. I'm gonna ask you one question. Dad, what is your definition of MAGA? >> What you talking about? What the MAGA that we're a part of? >> Yeah. >> Yes, that one. They are they are Republican trying to bring back the republic and get rid of democracy and they are here to defend the United States of America against communism. >> But what does it mean to you to be MAGA? >> That I hate communists >> to make America the best we can make it again. >> And if they take over the country and get their democracy that they want permanently, we're done. >> So wait a minute. You're saying communists want democracy. >> Democracy is nothing more than a nice word for communism. >> You laugh all you want. Do you Hey, >> that one got me. That one got me deep. >> Do you Do you realize >> Do you realize that we are a republic and not a democracy? >> Yes, we do. >> Now, wait a minute. You said that last time. Do you think that means republic is republican and democracy is democrat? >> I think republic means free. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, the real answer is that ma is white Christian nationalists, >> racist, bigoted, homophobic, all of it. >> That's what you communist think. >> It's trying to make our our country great again and proud to be an American. Patriotic. >> Wrong. that the reason we're here is because your grandfathers and your greatgrandfathers fought for our freedom. >> Fascists. >> Yeah, you guys are This is like a brainwashing. I don't know if you're ever going to come out of this, but the reality is that MAGA is nothing but racist. >> Okay. >> White supremacist, [ __ ] Christian nationalist pieces of [ __ ] You identify as Mha. You are a piece of [ __ ] One of you, one of you recite the pledge of allegiance to me. >> Can you say the pledge of allegiance? >> Of course. >> Repeat into us as children. >> Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, >> for the >> with liberty and the republic for which it stands with liberty and justice. There's no democracy in our pledge of allegiance. God democracy in our pledge of allegiance. >> What do you think democracy is, Dad? Let me ask you that. >> Well, we've been saying the pledge of allegiance. I don't think that should have been beat into us as children. You should have a choice in how you feel. >> What? >> Democracy is communism. That's why we're fighting against it because we do not want >> United States of America to become the next Soviet Union. >> Have you ever read 1984? Oh, >> long time ago. >> If I would initiate farm. >> Yeah. >> No, that's Animal Farm. Same author, though. So, you're in the same ballpark. >> Um, >> if I was to start a necessary conversation book club, would you guys actually read books? >> Yes. >> No. >> Okay. >> I'd have to listen to him. >> That's what I thought. That's really what MAGA is. >> Would you read a book? No. >> I ain't learning nothing. >> Gosh, that's mean. Well, it's true. >> He said HE WOULDN'T READ A GODDAMN BOOK. >> That's true. >> I will listen to it. I like to listen to books, not read. >> Dad, would you listen to an audio book? >> My point. >> What? >> Would you listen to an audio book? >> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Okay. Maybe we'll start with 1984 as our first book. There's a big piece of that. >> Why don't we start with that book? >> Because it's about how a fascist government can take control of a population. And one of the things they use is called double speak where they say one thing >> back to trying to make us the same as Nazis. >> No, I'm I'm back to trying to open your [ __ ] brain a little bit. >> No, your brain is the one that's closed. >> Aren't you already Nazis? >> May I bring No. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. You're pro- fascism. >> We have to go. >> Yeah, you are. >> Can I make a point? >> I'm pro. >> Mom, go ahead. Make your point. >> Nobody's let me talk today. >> Sorry. I'm sorry. >> Accept my very first question. Then I should have just been quiet. >> Go ahead, >> Chad. There's a pro a project and it's entirely paid by taxpayer money. It's going to be $1.6 billion. This is going to be the most expensive building in all of the United States. It's being built in your state. >> Okay. >> Do you know what this building is? >> I don't. >> 1.2 billion to 1.6 6 billion. It's going to be the capital complex in Sacramento and it's underway right now. >> You will be paying for this building. Everyone in California will be paying for it. It's going to be the most expensive building in the history of the United States. >> Why aren't people bitching about that? >> They're bitching about what Trump's trying to do and make improvements to our White House. I'm against >> no one has to pay for that's going to be beautiful. >> What is going to make you mad? What would upset you? What if he completely [ __ ] bulldozes the entire White House to build a new one? Are you going to defend it? >> He's not going to do that. >> You defend it? >> You've asked me this question before. The only thing that would >> I'm defending it right now because he's not gonna do it. >> I mean, I think you're wrong. I think the West Wing is next. I think he's gonna keep going. You thought we were wrong about a lot of stuff has to be capped. >> Let's Let's move on to our second topic here. I want to get through all six if we can today. The next one is the pardon disaster. Dad, you got to be in frame. This week, two Trump pardons raised some eyebrows. First, Christopher Moahan, a 34year-old from Clinton, New York, who was convicted for his participation in the January 6th insurrection, was arrested and charged with a felony terrorist threat when he threatened to kill Hakee Jeff, the House Democratic leader. Okay, you guys are aware of this. >> Yes. >> All right. >> And this week, he also pardoned the founder of the cryptocurrency company Binance, Changpo, who pleaded guilty in November 2023 to one count of failing to maintain an effective anti-moneyaundering program at Binance. He was sentenced to four months in prison for those violations and paid a fine reported at $50 million. Under his control, Binance's AML violations allowed and profited from transactions used in the sale and transfer of child sexual abuse materials and child exploitation. Per the official investigation, Binance quote allowed money to flow to terrorists, cyber criminals, and child abusers through its platform. Under Zho, Binance facilitated the crypto transaction that allowed the United Arab Emirates to transfer $2 billion into the Trump family memecoin as well as other Trump cryptoreated ventures. Okay, Mom. Do you think this January 6th rier who is charged with a terrorist threat against Hakee Jeff is a hero? >> Not a hero, but I don't think he should be in jail. >> You don't think he should be in jail for a terrorist threat? >> Not against a communist. >> Okay. So, Dad, you I assume think this guy is still a hero. >> Oh, I think he's great. So people can threaten, not even threaten, just like make jokes about Charlie Kirk and you want them in jail. But this guy >> literally says he wants Hakeem Jeff murdered. >> Good. >> I just said that. That's not right. >> So should he be in jail for that? >> No. >> Yes. >> For about four minutes >> then. >> Okay. How about the guy who founded Binance? So, this is a guy who helped Trump essentially launder two billion dollars from the UAE. >> Wasn't he in jail for four months? >> Four months? >> No, he didn't serve it. That That's the whole thing. He just got pardoned. >> Yeah. >> Oh, he served it. >> Four months is nothing. >> He also You guys are very much against like uh child sexual predators, whatever. This guy helped the child sexual predators exchange money for the [ __ ] they were doing. >> Yeah. We don't con we don't condone that. That's not right. >> Well, Trump just pardoned him. >> He stepped down as CEO. >> Trump's What did Trump say? That he was unfairly targeted. >> Dad, you have to be in the frame. You're you're sliding out. >> Yeah, we don't like that. We don't, you know, we don't like that. >> So, why do you think Trump pardoned this guy? >> I have no idea. >> Money. >> Let me explain it to you one more time. He facilitated the $2 billion He facilitated the $2 billion transfer of funds. >> You guys were ignorant every turn of the >> Because you don't clearly understand this. Mom just said she doesn't know why he pardoned. >> No, I clearly do not understand your point of view. It has nothing to do with facts. >> All right. >> Okay. Why do you think Trump pardoned this guy? >> Because if you're going to give him four months, you might as well not give him anything. He said he was unfairly targeted by the administration prior >> fourmon jail sentence. You might as well blow it out your ass. I told you what the crimes are. >> I knew that. But then when I read about the child trafficking and all those I guess it was what the pamphlets that that company put out. >> Do you know what Binance does? What it is? >> No. >> It's a cryptocurrency exchange. Do you know what that is? >> Yes. >> What is it? Well, the Bitcoin if Godamn. >> Huh? >> What? >> All the Bitcoin and then it becomes a coin and what are you talking about? >> He wouldn't even I said, "Well, the Bitcoin I was going to talk about the cryptos, too, but I I didn't get a [ __ ] chance, did I? You communist." Okay, >> go ahead. Tell me what it is. >> He pleaded. >> Don't need to now. >> He pleaded guilty to violating >> I'm not as smart as you are. You imply >> I imply you outright say it that you're smarter than all of us. >> You're not You're not even in my room. >> You one time told Haley that you knew more about baking than her. >> When was this? >> On this show. >> Remember when when you had your hysterctomy and dad said he could have done a better job? >> Yeah. Let's whip up some pies. Whose recipes do you >> Come on. >> We'll have a baking contest between you two at some point. We'll do our own reality show. >> We will win. >> His thing is whenever you don't agree with him, he laughs. >> I know he makes fun of us. It's okay. >> I make I'm so much smarter than you, it's ridiculous. >> Okay. So, okay. >> Then then you understand how Binance works and what it is. I I'll be honest with all the crypto coins and this and that. You buy You buy something that's not really real, right? >> Well, I mean, what is real? We could That's a a larger philosophical conversation. >> We need to auction off one of your posters. None of this is real from a long time ago. >> Yeah. >> Ahead of the curb. >> It is. It is digital currency essentially that exists on a blockchain. So there's just this long ledger of transactional information that says you now have this coin and you now have this coin >> and that's it. >> Nothing's physical. >> This guy through his company facilitated a $2 billion transfer from UAE into Trump's memecoin. He also helped Trump set up his memecoin company, etc., etc. So Trump essentially got $2 billion from this guy or he at least helped that deal go through. Now he's pardoned after being pleading guilty to helping people who do child sexual abuse pay each other for it. >> He pleaded guilty to money laundering. It said >> sure that too. I mean that's a big part of crypto scams as well because there's no legal record of it. >> The point is Donald Trump is pardoning [ __ ] criminals. >> Are you down for that? >> Well, president Yeah. Other presidents have not >> Jesus Christ. Can you just leave other presidents out of it for once and [ __ ] answer the question? >> Well, it's the same. >> Are you okay with Donald Trump pardoning [ __ ] criminals? >> These two people, yes. >> I like the way our country is going. I like what >> people. Yes, I'm okay. >> I like what Donald Trump >> and you [ __ ] are part of it. You're complicit because you know he's doing it and you don't give a [ __ ] So, just say it. Say you don't give a [ __ ] He can pardon child molesters. He can pardon this guy. Fraudulent. Like, you don't give a [ __ ] >> You're not words in our mouth. You're not >> No, she's not. You are literally saying it right now. You don't care that he pardoned this guy who helps facilitate payment for child predators. >> No, that makes that convicted for that. He was >> That's part of the wholeing. >> That's why he was sentenced to four months in [ __ ] prison. >> Convicted. If it if it was bad with the with the child stuff, wouldn't he have got longer time? >> No, because he's rich. >> You know, the whole money. >> It's unbelievable. Okay, let's move on. Our third topic is Adalita Grahalva. This week, Arizona's Attorney General Chris Mays filed a lawsuit on October 21st against House Speaker Mike Johnson and the House of Representatives seeking to force Adalita Grahalva to be sworn in. Gravo won a special election on September 23rd to fill the seat her late father, who passed away in earlier 2025, vacated. The delay is politically motivated because her being sworn in would give Democrats the 218th signature needed to force a vote on releasing the Epstein files. Mike Johnson claims her swearing in is delayed because the House is not in regular session and the US federal government shutdown is ongoing. He says he will swear her in when full session resumes. But Johnson Johnson has sworn in other members, two Republicans during pro- fora sessions while the shutdown is in effect. So the delay in her case is selective. This month-long delay is one of the longest for a new member of Congress until she's sworn in all 813,000 people in Arizona's 7th district do not have a representative in Congress. Mom, why do you think Mike Johnson refuses to swear her in? >> Our government is shut down. You just said it, >> right? But he has sworn in. motivated. He's smart. >> Okay. So, Dad, you do think it's politically motivated in your final >> 100%. >> Okay. >> If >> And that makes Mike Johnson a genius. >> Don't you want if Trump Yeah, we want to know the truth. If Trump was in that in the files, it would have come out a long time ago. A long time ago. >> Then why didn't they release it? If Trump's not in the files, why don't the Republicans release it? I because there's other high up officials that are Democrats in it, too. >> So, the Republicans are protecting the Democrats. >> Why not? >> That makes no sense. Just listen to yourself. It makes no sense. There is one reason. >> It makes no sense. >> There is one reason that he won't swear her in. They don't want us to find out what's in the files. Why don't they want us to find out? Use your brain. >> It's not Donald Trump. >> It's [ __ ] Donald Trump. Jesus Christ. >> It's not. They would have used it against him already. You you are out of your [ __ ] mind. You have seen the photos of him with Ebstein. We have seen the [ __ ] weird birthday card that's like creepy and sexual. We know that he's in those [ __ ] files. >> I can't wait till they come out to prove y'all wrong. Can't wait. >> You don't know [ __ ] >> Can't wait. >> Okay. So, again, I'm going to ask, why is he not swearing her in? because it's politically motivated and he's doing his job as a good speaker of the house. >> I think it's because our government shut down. >> No, >> nobody's doing nothing. Government needs to get their you know >> during this current shutdown back up. >> Mom, during this current shutdown, he has sworn in two Republican congressmen. That's >> right. He's a >> guy. It is within their power to make the government [ __ ] go back to work. >> Yeah. And it pisses you off. >> They're doing this on purpose. >> You know what your problem is? You goddamn Democrats no longer control anything. >> Now, what upsets me? >> And you're all mad and pissed off about it. >> What upsets me is that I see local [ __ ] groups like in my community saying, "I don't know if I'm going to be able to feed my kids in a week." >> That's terrible. >> That's [ __ ] repulsive. And Johnson just sits there on that [ __ ] Not He doesn't care. >> Our government, >> open up your bakery and feed them. >> You know what? You know what? I've [ __ ] done that in the past. >> [ __ ] done that. Do it. >> I did that the last time we had a government shutdown. >> Do it. Do it. >> Our government needs to get their, you know what, together. And get >> Why is it my [ __ ] responsibility as a small business owner in America about it? >> You're the one bitching about it. Government assistance. Government assistance exists for people who are not able to [ __ ] buy food. That is a thing. It's always been something that we've had access to. And because of Donald Trump and [ __ ] Mike Johnson, kids are going to starve. And now you want me to [ __ ] fix the problem. >> It's It's because the Democrats wanted to have health care for all the illegals is why we're shut down and at a standstill. >> Oh, Jesus Christ. >> Oh, Jesus Christ. Um, this is interesting though. Dad, you're at least admitting Mike Johnson is doing this on a pure political basis and just is a horrible pile of [ __ ] Mom, you won't admit that. You think that there is some real reason that he hasn't sworn her in, but he has sworn in two Republican congressmen. You You >> She may not be qualified. That might be another reason. >> She won the election. She's she's the person. She now needs to be sworn in. There are 817,000 people in her district who now have no representative in US Congress. >> Speaker of the House, he gets to decide whether she's qualified or not. >> Because of her father's passing, didn't her father die? >> Yes. >> And then she had to win it or she won it >> because of his [ __ ] elected. >> Okay. >> I don't think. >> All right. So, you have no idea what we're talking about. As usual, let's go to our simmer down. I want to ask you one question, Dad. If there was one thing you could have changed about how you raised me and Haley, what would it be? >> You >> me and Haley. >> I would have insisted that you went to school in Texas. >> Okay. >> And not California. >> Okay. >> Haley, I would have did my I should have done a better job of convincing her not to spend a lot of time in Colorado. >> Okay. So, it's all about geographic issues. Mom, if you could change one thing about how you raised us, what would it be? >> I think some of it is the geographic stuff he just said. I would have kept you in Texas on your baseball scholarship because California did change you. Haley, Colorado, maybe a little bit, but by then you were married and on your own. But I think there was really nothing we did wrong raising you, Haley, except give you way too much. >> A perfect child. 65 pairs of Doc Martens, things like that. >> When you wanted one, you wanted two, you wanted three. We said yes, yes, yes, yes. >> And you know that's the truth. >> It's just about geographical. >> We did nothing about I feel we did nothing wrong with either of you other than maybe >> okay, >> I could have taught you more different religions when you were little so that you just didn't go one-sided on me. You know, I could have we could have went to all different kinds of churches instead of just one growing up or something. I don't know. >> All right, Haley, what would you change in how you were raised if you could? >> I'm going to preface this with the good things that you did as parents. Um, >> you better not say have two other parents other than us. I will come kick your ass through the >> I I appreciate that. Um, like we were always cared for in a lot of ways. You always nurtured like our artistic sides. You let us um >> Did they? >> I did. Me? Yeah. I don't know. >> I remember asking for piano lessons at one point and getting told by dad specifically that that was for slur, homophobic slur. Okay. Well, I I guess I had those liberties and you did not. But, you know, I would ask for a sewing machine. I want to learn how to sew. Like mom said, they bought me Doc Martens and [ __ ] Me and dad would go get music. Like, I have lots of good memories of the way that we were reared. Um, you know, so it wasn't all bad. I just want to preface it with that. Uh, but the question was, what would I change and how you raised me? Um, I would definitely say I I would have appreciated growing up without verbal abuse and without getting hit with a belt. >> Me too. That was going to be my answer as well. >> Um, so those two things I think I would have really maybe not wanted uh growing up. >> Not you're going to tell everybody we bait you. Yeah, that's nice. >> Did you or didn't you? >> You got disciplined. >> Okay, >> that's what we did. Yes, >> you are. >> And I'm and I'm saying in raising us, those are the the two things that come to mind. Um, >> those were literally going to be my answers as well. >> And bit your butt. >> Yeah. Uh, like there was some verbal abuse. You have to admit that there still is. That's still ongoing. >> Yeah. >> Um >> as evidenced by this entire episode. >> And dad used to beat the [ __ ] out of us with a pill. He did not beat the [ __ ] out of you. So quit telling people we beat you. >> All right, moving on to our next topic. >> Let's move on. No, you want to get down to the nitty-gritty. Financially, did you uh suffer in any way at all growing up? See, I knew I knew I knew you were gonna get mad. So, I gave you the >> like I said, it wasn't all bad. >> The question was, what would I change? Those are the things. >> Everything else was the people financially who paid for your college. >> You You helped us with a lot of stuff. We're not saying that you'll help. >> We [ __ ] hell, Chad. I used to send money to you when you when you were having a tough time. Of course, >> they send you money every month. >> You guys have a hard You have a hard time hearing anything from Chad and I about >> growing up that I can't believe affected us negatively. >> I don't think >> now I'm wrong. >> They probably didn't get spanked more than about four or five times. Uh, >> you have a you have a hard time with this. But again, you have to admit like when you're wrong and you guys have a really hard time with that. >> I'm not lying. We Dad spanked you. >> And I'm not lying. That's the thing I wish he didn't do. >> All right. Well, there you have it. Those are our answers. Thank you for that simmerd down. And now my mom's mad at the truth. Now we're going to move on to >> Why did you do that? That that was the simmer down, [ __ ] And now she's angry. >> Well, I didn't know that it was going to go this this bad. I thought it was all like water under the bridge at this point. >> I knew immediately when I was like, "This isn't a simmer down." >> My apologies. Um, >> and why didn't we discuss this privately? You have to throw out we beat you when you know you were never beat. >> I'm dying. All right, Mom. My apologies for angering you. That is not what this podcast is supposed to be about. Um, but it is about our family. As much as it's about politics, it is about that stuff. Okay, they're zipping their lips for those just listening. They're making lip zip. So hopefully they will still speak in this episode. Hello. Now they're on silent tree meeting. All right. Well, I'm going to read these topics and we'll see if we get any answers. Venezuela is up next. This week, Trump authorized the 10th lethal strike on boats coming from Venezuela accused of narcotics trafficking without presenting any evidence of the accusations to any government body or to the public. Trump's administration sent a notice to Congress saying that the US is in a non- international armed conflict conflict with drug cartels, thereby invoking the laws of war/armed conflict rather than purely law enforcement authorities. Legal experts say this is untested and unusual. Using military lethal force in international waters against vessels alleged to be trafficking drugs raises serious questions of executive authority, international law, and congressional oversight. When asked about his strategy with these strikes, here's what Trump had to say. >> President, if you are declaring war against these cartels, and Congress is likely to um approve of that process, why not just ask for a declaration of war? Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We're going to kill them. You know, they're going to be like dead. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, there was Trump uh giving his answer as to why we're doing what we're doing here as a country. when um Zalinski said when he was visiting the White House for the first time, he said uh or Trump said, "Sorry, so you're saying during the war, you can't have elections." So, let me just say three and a half years from now, if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections. Oh, that's good. Trump said that. Do you think, Mom, he's trying to provoke Venezuela with these strikes into some kind of war so that he can get rid of the next election? No. >> Oh my god. Dad, >> what? [Music] >> You want to beat him? >> Oh my god. >> He's He is He's blowing up the ships because that's China that is putting the fentanyl on the ship. >> He's trying to kill the cartel. war with the cartel has nothing to do with Venezuela. >> He's not declaring war though. That's the whole thing. >> A declaration of >> it. He's killing people. We're at war. >> No, but dead. Didn't he say dead? Okay. Like >> you guys should care about the fentanyl. You know, we have a family member. >> But that's not that was killed from that. So Trump is bombing those ships, subs, whatever they are, high-speed boats coming through with the drugs >> that is supplied by China through Venezuela so that it doesn't come into the United States. I say shoot them all. >> Do you think he should have to provide some proof that these are actually drug boats? >> No. They have enough proof if they're going to kill people. They've got it. >> So you can just start bombing [ __ ] in the middle of the ocean for fun. What are we going to do? Put him on trial and say, "Oops, one got by. Oops, another one got by." >> The normal process of this, >> right? You voted in the Coast Guard. You voted him in that he said he would get rid of the cartel. >> We're at war with the cartel. >> He's doing exactly what we voted him in to do. >> You're all too stupid to know. >> Let me ask you this, Mom. What do you think of the process by which they would intercept these ships and arrest the people on them and then take them to trial? Why can't we do that? >> Because they would be shot back and killed. >> You No, they would get away the way our system is. They would get away and they'd be doing the damn things over again. When you blow them up, they're dead and all their products are gone. >> That's right. >> Okay. Um, >> fish get high. >> Well, [ __ ] >> What? >> The fish get high. >> I like that one. >> Them fish get high. >> Let's move on. Uh, this was going to be my number one topic until the White House. >> Trump stealing more money from Americans. This week, Trump filed two administrative claims with the DOJ seeking damages by the federal government for investigations of himself totaling approximately $230 million. Trump says he believes the government quote, owes me a lot of money for what he alleges were violations of his rights, malicious prosecution, privacy violations. He has publicly said that any money he gets would be donated to charity or used in public purposes. Coincidentally, the original figure cited for the cost of his ballroom was $250 million. The openly corrupt part of this situation is that Trump is asking the DOJ for this payment, which is part of the executive branch, which he controls. That creates a direct conflict of interest. Nothing remotely like this has ever happened by any president in the history of this country. Mom, do you think Trump should be paid 200 million $230 million of taxpayer money? >> No, I think he should get more. >> Okay. >> For what? >> Uh, they ruined his reputation. They went into Mara Lago. They >> ruined his reputation. He's the president. >> Huh? >> He's the president. How did it affect him at all >> when they did that? When they were trying to take him down. >> Okay. And now he's the president, >> right? Pay him back for what they did to him. >> But do you understand that he controls the decision? Todd Blanch and Pam Bondi are going to be the two people who decide this. Todd Blanch is his personal attorney >> and Pam Bondi is the head of the DOJ that he installed. >> Good. >> So you don't do you see like he's basically just saying like I want $230 million. henchmen, give it to me, taxpayer money, and we're just going to give him that money. >> I don't see it as like that. >> That's a spit in the bucket compared to what we've given to everybody else >> and what they did to him and his family. >> Okay. Wow. Um, Dad, do you think he will give the money to charity? End quotes. >> Yeah, I think he will. >> He said he would. >> Uhhuh. >> He also said he wasn't going to tear down the White House. Oh, >> stop. He lies constantly. >> He also said that he was for the LGBTQ plus community during his [ __ ] campaigning. And now the Supreme Court is about to hear a case that potentially will overturn gay marriage in the United States. A Supreme Court that he stacked. >> Hello. >> We'll see where that goes. >> We will. That's definitely going to be a topic as that case is it next week or the week after they're hearing it? >> November 7th. Yeah, the week. Is that next week? No, it's the week after. So, that'll be a big topic in that episode. Um, Mom, if he uses this money, if he gets it and he uses it to build the ballroom, which now I guess he doesn't have to because Google, Apple, Meta, every technology company that we all use is in bed with Trump right now. I don't know what can be done about this. Like, how do you boycott Amazon, Google, and Apple, and Meta? It's it's integrated into every piece of our lives, unfortunately. >> Spotify as well, like running ads. It's like literally everything that we consume now. How do you [ __ ] get out of that? >> You can't. Um, unfortunately, if we all wanted to, it basically means just not using your cell phone >> for anything. >> Um, >> what's happening? >> Yes. Go to the bathroom. You've talked too long. Too long. >> We're not past our [ __ ] recording time. Almost. Nope. >> All right. He's going to get the belt. >> Y'all deserve a beaten today. >> A little sick for talking about how we got beat. >> Oh my god. Please tell the people we didn't beat you. >> Sorry. >> Okay. Okay. >> You were out there on those baseball fields. All right. >> He beat you on the baseball fields. What? >> You don't want to get into it? We'll talk about it off air. >> What a [ __ ] simmerdown. >> I I'm sorry. I'll never do it again. I'll never bring up personal family things. I didn't realize it was going to go that crazy either. I didn't think mom would get so flustered about the truths. Um, let me do this one final >> little [ __ ] >> One final element. Okay, this is criminals in ICE. A report published this week indicates that ICE has allowed some recruits to begin training even though they had failed drug tests, had disqualifying criminal records, or did not meet other standard screening criteria. Sources within ICE say the background check process was rushed because of expanded hiring goals mandated by the White House, and that the screening steps normally taken uh earlier in the hiring process were deferred or compressed. Hiring individuals with criminal records or failed drug tests into federal law enforcement agency raises serious concerns about integrity, accountability, public safety, and trust in ICE operations. Mom, should I be able to hire criminals to meet their quotas? >> No. >> Okay. But they're doing that now. >> I think ICE needs to get out of the way and let the federal government come in and let our government just take over. >> ICE is the federal government. I mean the real military army >> like the guys with real guns to shoot people. It's time. >> ICE has real guns. They are shooting people. >> ICE does not have guns. Do they Bob? >> What do they do? I didn't think they have real guns. >> They killed a person in Chicago. >> Yeah. >> By shooting them with their real guns. I thought they were just uh pelleting the priests with the >> They're doing that, too. >> They hired a bunch of [ __ ] goons. >> You need to come back and say it. >> I can't I'm not going to sit back. >> Okay. Yell. >> I love everybody. >> All right. I love you too, Dad. Thanks for sitting in on this one as long as you could. Mom, I want to get to the the root of this here. You're saying they shouldn't be able to hire criminals, but you want the US military, like active service Marines and >> Right. Right. Marines, people like that in there now. >> So using the United States military to police the citizenry is a a huge element that we a line that basically America has said it will never cross. >> That the military is only for our protection against foreign adversaries. >> Civil war. And you're for that like dad was, I guess. >> Yeah. >> You're ready for the Civil War? >> I kind of am. >> Why? Why would you want that? >> Well, what ICE is doing now is not It's not working, >> right? So, get rid of ICE, >> right? And put in Marines. >> To do what? What? What do you want these Marines to do? >> I want the cities cleaned up like they did with DC. I want you when you're saying the city's cleaned up. Like, do you know what ISIS's job is? >> Yes. To pick up illegal aliens? >> No. To meet a quota and just throw people in a [ __ ] van. >> Yes. But I'm saying on on the surface, like what is ICE meant to be used for? It is exactly what you're saying, Mom. To find people who are here illegally, deport them or put them through some kind of due process to see if they should remain here or shouldn't remain here or whatever. That's their job, right? >> Right. >> But you're saying clean up the streets. Meaning what? Get rid of homeless people, criminals. >> Yeah. That's what that is how it started in DC where the homeless people, >> right? That's not ISIS's job. Their job is not to clean up homeless people. >> I know. >> And you want that to be the job of the Marines. >> I want our cities cleaned up. Can you imagine if like the $300 million it's going to cost to build that ballroom was used to like facilitate homeless people? Like if we just built shelters and fed people and had healthc care. Can you even imagine? Like if we used all of this money from these giant billionaire tech corporations to actually [ __ ] change the world. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine if they were actually taxed and we used that money to make a better [ __ ] America with universal health care where we took care of people who had food insecurity and homeless people on the streets instead of treating them like criminals? Can you even imagine that? >> It's what we're trying to do. >> It's not if the CEOs of these companies were just good people, >> right? instead of money grubbing pieces of [ __ ] who care only about furthering their own uh self-interests building their own bunkers. Like to me, I read some article maybe like a year or two ago about Zuckerberg and Bezos and all these big tech CEOs that they are building these kind of apocalypse bunkers all over the world >> like in Hawaii and [ __ ] Yeah. >> And they have helicopters at the ready 247. So if [ __ ] goes down, they're out. [ __ ] it. They're not using their vast fortunes to try and reorganize society to make it better for everyone. They have, at least psychologically, accepted the fact that it's all going to come down at some point. And they have leveraged their fortunes on building their escape plans, not trying to make things better for everyone. Those are the people controlling the society that is crumbling and they don't give a [ __ ] And I don't that to me is like one of the hardest things to get my head around in terms of like what can the average person do because again I think their products are just too integrated into like everyone's daily life. Uh I buy [ __ ] off Amazon all the time. Everyone does obviously that's why he's the second richest person in the [ __ ] world. Elon Musk >> an iPhone. We all have an iPhone. >> Yeah. Or an Android or whatever. We're all using Apple or Google Meta. We're all using all of it all the time. And I don't see a way around that necessarily, but I think if we could find a way around it, the world would change almost overnight. >> Interesting concept, but won't work. >> All right, good talking to you. Well, I guess that wraps up this program. Thank you everyone for joining us. Mom, I do love you. Please don't be mad at us. >> We didn't beat you. I'm pissed because you are telling people we did and we didn't. Okay. >> So, you take that back or I can be mad at you. >> All right. I take it back. >> Thank you, Haley. >> I Haley, >> you're you're asking me to deny reality. >> That's right. Get on the MAGA train. We're MAGA now. We have to deny our childhoods. >> We never beat you and you know that. I that's just simply not true. You're You are literally going to sit there and say that dad never took a belt to me and Chad. >> No, he did hit you. >> So, what do you call that? >> But a beating is like blood dripping down your legs to me. That kind of beating. You never got a beating. >> Okay. >> He never almost killed us. That's true. I can tell you >> I've never hit my kids with a belt. >> Okay, I'm not going to get into that, but I can think of one something, but I'm not going to bring that up. So, let's forget it. >> What? >> One something? What are you talking about? I >> I'll talk to you about it after. >> All right. Well, thank you everyone for joining us. Mom, I do love you. My apologies for making you feel bad. Um, Paley, I love you as well and all the things we've survived as children. >> Mom, I love you. Tell Dad I love him wherever he went. Chad, I love you. >> Love you both. >> All right, see you next week. Maybe.