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Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek episode. This is just me and my mom. We're going to be showing each other video clips from opposite sides of the internet, primarily about Alex Freddy's murder in Minneapolis. Uh but mom, you have sent me a bunch of clips. >> Yes. It seemed like I sent you one or two and then I saw another one and then another one and then another one. So you don't you can't show all of them. I sent you, but the two that I did like I think I told you which ones I like. the best. >> Okay. Well, I want to start it with one you sent me that has nothing to do with any of this. And I was like, this is completely bizarre. Why are you sending me this? Are you ready? >> No idea what you're going to show. >> Okay. You sent me this. You should have some idea. You literally emailed it to me. >> Was it politics? >> Here we go. >> Oh, yeah. [music] >> Michael Jackson. Whitney, >> I love this. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. [music] I love >> I love Charles. I love [music] >> I didn't know her as well. Oh yeah. [music] >> Like I like everybody. [crying] That's why I sent that. Oh yeah. James Brown. [music] >> How long is this? Jesus Christ. >> Of course. You're the greatest. Oh, >> okay. Um, >> dance like my father. >> So, this is just an AI compilation of dead musical artists. >> I really liked that. And the reason I sent that, there is a guy on Instagram that I follow and I've got to find him, but he said he could make one for my parents. He said, "All you do is send like um four uh still pictures, like four still pictures when younger, four kind of in the middle and four then at the end." And he >> I can make this for you in 10 seconds. You can make this. Yes. >> I would like one of me, please, right now. >> You're living, so I don't know that we want to see you leaning on your own tombstone. >> It doesn't have to be on the tombstone. You can do one living. I like it. >> All right. I'll make a whole bunch of AI stuff of you doing weird [ __ ] and I'll send it. >> All right. >> All right. Well, thanks for that um appetizer to the main course, I guess. So, what do you want to start with? You have your Carl Higgby thing from Newsmax. You have uh Bill >> Bill O'Reilly. Either one. >> Riley. Which one do you want to start with? >> Let's do Carl. >> Okay. Carl Higgby is a Newsmax anchor. This is a clip from Newsmax. I have not watched this. I have watched a lot of Carl Higgby though in the last couple of weeks as I've been, you know, kind of uh boosting up my intake of Newsmax just to see what you guys watch. Carl Higgby is, in my opinion, a complete piece of [ __ ] who uh is a bully. He doesn't understand anything other than putting his tongue as far as he can up Trump's [ __ ] Here we go. >> Nice. >> And something that is seemingly lost on the Democrat party. Your level of outrage is not a justification to do whatever you want. And it appears that the left's message is, "Well, there won't be peace until we get everything we want and we're back in power." Look at this. Here is a map of all the states that ICE is deporting people from. And at what rate? About a dozen or so states are deporting at higher rates than Minnesota. And yet, federal law enforcement hasn't had to shoot any agitators in those 49 other states. Let's pause it right there. Okay. And what what's the point of him saying that in your mind? >> Well, to me that means why is all this going on in Minnesota? Is it because is it because Tim Walls says go out, take the videos, get in the street, get out there and do it? >> Gavin Newsome is saying that too. It's because Tim Wals ran against Donald Trump and Donald Trump is a little baby. >> Could it also be and he's trying to punish is one of the biggest frauds going on right now in the history of the United States. >> What? Your internet's cutting out? >> Yeah. Is it because maybe in Minnesota right now, one of the biggest fraud things in the whole history of the United States is going on, too? >> And that's why ICE is killing people in the streets. >> No, that's why there's more ICE people there, though, trying to figure out this fraud thing, too. This [ __ ] is trying to spin this to say like we're deporting people everywhere else. Why is it only Minneapolis where people are getting executed in the streets Nazi style? >> It's because he's trying to punish that city. >> No, it's because those Democratic >> cities, which are sanctuary cities, like in Minnesota, they're telling them to go out in the street and raise hell against ICE. They're telling everybody that everywhere. >> I don't understand. >> It's not just >> Yeah, I don't understand why they they want to do that and stop our ICE agents from taking down the bad guys. I really don't understand it. >> They're not taking down the bad guys. And I'm going to show you a clip to that end after we watch this one. They are bullies. They are killing people who are doing nothing illegal. >> They are putting themselves, I feel, in danger. That's not illegal >> to put yourself in the street and put yourself in danger agents that are trying to take the bad guys down. >> I mean, you saw the video of Alex Prey. Who what bad guy was that guy going after? >> Well, look, let's finish your clip and then I'll show you one. Here we go. >> Okay. Also, if this was truly about law enforcement and them killing somebody that was, you know, an innocent bystander, as they're claiming, then where was all the outrage when a Somali police officer in Minnesota shot Justine Diamond in 2017? That police officer was sentenced to manslaughter, got 38 months in prison, but there were no protests, and he was guilty. Because you [ __ ] that's an isolated incident. What is happening with ICE? it. Are you listening to me? >> Yes. I'm trying to find what I want to say to you. Yes. >> But listen to what I'm saying to you. >> Okay. >> And that means looking at me when I'm talking to you. >> Hello. >> I'm here. >> You do. You have a habit of this. Like when I'm trying to make my point, you'll look at your iPad so you can cue up what you want to say next. And I don't think you're hearing what I'm saying. >> I'm listening. >> Okay. So, he's asking why wasn't there outrage about this Somali police officer killing someone else? That's because that was an isolated incident >> of one police officer. ICE is a taxpayerf funed giant government organization that has been told explicitly to rough people up to go into these cities to kick in doors to go they don't even need warrants to go into houses anymore. >> They are getting the illegal people that are not >> saying that I'm answering the point he's making. He's saying where was the outrage for that? It's a completely different thing >> that one Somali police officer killing someone is not the fabric of our constitution being shredded by the president. >> Where is the outrage though from your side or the other people when we see women shot, raped, killed like and Riley, those people. >> No one likes >> Where's the tears from Hollywood then, Chad? >> The tears from Hollywood. Oh, because you have that Megan Kelly clip about Natalie Portman. Jesus Christ. Did you see that? >> I have a dueling Megan Kelly clip for you that we can also play. I have that. I have all this [ __ ] queued up for you. I'm just saying his point here is >> So, she's weeping, which that she can do that. >> Yeah. >> For what happened. She can cry for anything she wants. >> Yeah. >> But she is crying for only one side. I didn't see her cry for the women on the other side that got raped, murdered, for the girl on the bus. in Charlotte. >> You're you're misunderstanding the broader point that I'm trying to make. Obviously, all of those brutal crimes are terrible. We all feel sympathy for the victims, the victim's family in every case. Charlie Kirk, even Haley and I said that on our the episode we did after he got assassinated. >> We said that's terrible. We feel bad for his family. This should never happen to anyone. We all agree on those things, >> right? >> What you're talking about, the murders you're talking about, you keep bringing up Lake and Riley and I forget the other woman's name. That's kind of your your touch point. Like why aren't you as outraged about this? Because those are isolated incidents that are not funded by taxpayer money being funneled through a government organization that is essentially a Nazi Gestapo. You understand the difference, right? ICE is a is an army. >> But we do have government money called ICE that are taking these bad guys out of here. We do have money though that is our ICE people taking the bad guys out of here that won't kill or rape anymore people too. And the agitators are getting in the way. The people that are getting shot and killed are getting in the way. >> No, they're not. And I'll show you a clip to that end. Let's keep watching this [ __ ] [ __ ] Okay. >> So, why are there protests now? >> Most of the agitators aren't even from Minnesota. I mean, neither is the governor, the AG, the governor, or the police chief either, but >> I was there. I saw all the out of state plates driving all these people all over the place. They're getting in their cars to warm up, whatever. The reason it's not happening in places like Texas is complaining about out of state plates. ICE has out of state plates, >> but so do all the people being protesting and agitating. >> Who gives a [ __ ] We're all >> And in the one clip, I don't know if you're going to It's organizing. What do you think a protest should be? Mom, you're pissed off that there's out of state plates and the protesters seem organized. What should a protest be then? >> That should be a protest and it should be peaceful and you shouldn't get in the way. You >> Okay, that guy was in the street >> again with a cell phone in his hand. >> He's not directing traffic. I'm going to play you a clip. We're going to look right at what happened because the local law enforcement, the local government isn't in the hot seat for fraud. And my inkling is that these protests are being pushed so hard because Democrats want the focus off the Somali fraud. Remember, these didn't start happening at this magnitude until that fraud was exposed by Nick Shirley. Also, did you know this weekend protests had an estimated 10,000 people show up in buses, dropping people off all day long? And you don't think this was like organized by somebody bigger than just a bunch of random hippies? random hippies. Okay. Like >> well like the peaceloving people that are protesting peacefully. That's not the people we're seeing in the street. >> And then my other clip that we're going to talk about, I think this is instigated again above the United States by that other man >> that he's pumping money into the United States to divide us and get these people out here doing this. >> All right, let me play you a counter clip. Now, you're saying Alex Prey was out there directing traffic, which is again not punishable by execution, even if it was true, and it's not. >> So, let's take a look at this video. >> Can I say one more thing? >> Y >> a week. He wasn't I mean maybe I'm sure he was he was a loving son uh had his dog was working at the hospital and all of that but he was also on the list of the terrorist list that the federals had him down on that list because a week prior he was in another confrontation with with ICE >> where they held him down. He was doing something illegal. um got out of the car, jumped out of the car, got in the way of him again, held him down, broke his rib, had to go to the hospital. >> They broke his rib by kneeling on him. >> Right. And that was a week prior. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, force they broke his rib a week prior >> and now he's on their list. So, what you're saying, >> did he have a gun then? >> That I don't know. >> No, he did not. >> Okay. >> I'm just saying what if? Just listen to this for a minute. I don't know if this is it. Just my brain went there. Okay. >> Yeah. >> What if >> when they held him down the week prior and broke the rib, >> then he thought, "Okay, I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back to another time when they were trying to take someone down and get in their way and I'm bringing my gun." >> Yeah. No [ __ ] >> What What if I can take them down? >> I don't think >> that's just what my brain was thinking. >> I understand that you think >> Why would he have a gun the second time? because they broke his [ __ ] rib and there was no repercussion. That is excessive force. >> So then he wanted to take him down. Maybe >> he wanted to protect himself using his American right >> given to him by the second amendment. Yes, >> carry a firearm. He did nothing illegal. I don't I will say you're trying to blame him for it and it makes no [ __ ] sense. Why put yourself out in harm's way like that to maybe get killed when you can stand over on the sidewalk, blow the whistle, scream at him, but don't get up close and and get in a confrontation with him. Now, I'm going to say this. This is going to this is going to throw you off the edge. >> I've watched as many clips of that as I can again. >> I saw them take the gun from him and then he was shot. That is not right. That is not right. >> Oh [ __ ] So why are you trying to accuse him of doing something wrong? >> I don't I didn't want him to be there. I didn't want Renee to be in the car and try to drive over them. Why are they >> She didn't try to drive over anybody. >> Stay and just let the Nazis do their Nazi work. >> They are [ __ ] Nazis. >> Look at this. Just watch this clip. >> No one is talking about this ICE agent in the Alex Prey shooting, but we need to talk about him. We need to talk about the guy who started it all. This guy is a genuine threat to society. Like this guy seriously needs to get locked the [ __ ] up. This guy right here. Notice the orange and like kind of beige beanie. Keep an eye on that. Okay, so starting off here, like he just seems to shove her literally for no reason. And then continues to aggress on her. And then she goes to run behind Alex Prey. She's clearly trying to get away and deescalate. And then he just keeps coming at her. And then he shoves Alex who was just there. Like he literally didn't do anything. He was literally just there. Another woman comes up and is like, "Hey, what the [ __ ] are you doing?" And if you look at all the camera angles, like this guy has no reason to be shoving these [ __ ] people around. And then he shoves her, too. So this guy's just literally out here [ __ ] bullying people. And then Alex, like a literal [ __ ] hero, gets in the way of this guy clearly abusing his [ __ ] power. And then he gets [ __ ] pepper- sprrayed. Alex tries to get away and then he grabs him and tries to pepper spray him even more in the face. I'm sorry. I thought our protocol was to deescalate situations, not brutalize [ __ ] people. Then he gets shoved to the ground. He gets jumped by all these [ __ ] goons. Okay, right here. >> Do you see that? People think he's getting pistol whipped. That's the same guy. Look, it's the same [ __ ] beanie. The same guy who instigated this is the same guy who's also beating Alex on the top of his head while he's getting manhandled by like four or five other [ __ ] guys. This guy is the lowest form of scum to ever [ __ ] exist. This type of person. >> That's all we need to see here. So >> the first time I would have got shoved by one of them and knocked me on my butt, I would have stayed down. I would have got the hell out of there. Why would I have been there in the first place? I'm sad >> protesting Nazi activity >> here. You don't think it's You don't think this is Naziish? >> Let me just show you an image real quick. Here. >> Okay. >> Doesn't look similar to you at all. >> You're just comparing that because of the force. No, I I don't see any any >> no similarity between those two images. That's a Nazi officer executing a Jewish guy in the middle of the street. And that is an ICE piece of [ __ ] executing Alex Prey in the middle of the street. >> I've never seen that picture on the right that way. I thought Mr. Alex Prey was down on the ground when they shot him. >> He is on the ground. >> He is in that picture. >> I saw him on his stomach. They took the gun away and then he got the first shot. And I told you that is >> So you're denying what? This is hilarious. This is hilarious. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm showing you this picture. You're looking at the image. >> On this picture, we have a quote from 1984. The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. And you're literally doing that. As you're looking at the image, you're saying, "That's not what I saw." You're seeing it right now. You're looking at it. >> See that as the same because I've told you I don't believe it's the same as Nazi Germany. >> Okay. And so you think that video clip I showed you with that ICE agent just shoving people, bullying [ __ ] people in the street for no reason. You think that's justified? >> No, but the first shove, you get out of their way and let them take down the criminals and let them do their job. >> There are no criminals going after someone. I have it written down. >> They were going after Alex Prey and those two women. >> There was that guy in the [ __ ] beam. >> ICE agents were going after an illegal. Then why were they going after Alex Prey and these two women? >> Because he got in their face. He got >> No, he didn't. You watched the [ __ ] video. He's standing on the side of the street with his camera out and that guy comes over and [ __ ] shoves him. He's not even approaching the IC. >> Why would he be near ICE? Why would he even be near ICE? >> Because this is the moment where we are living in the first phases of Nazi Germany. And there are some people in this [ __ ] country who say, "No, we will fight against this." That's what they're While he was there, he wasn't just driving his car down the street. He probably got text messages from that little group he's in to say, "Go to the street. Go to that. >> Go there. There's ICE agents. Let's go take them down." >> And get off the streets. It's >> that's how organized protest works. You tell everybody who's in your protest group, ISC is here doing bad [ __ ] Let's go protest them. Then you all convene to protest. That's how it works. >> You can protest. Don't agitate him. >> He didn't. You saw the I just showed you the video. That guy [ __ ] comes and shoves him for no reason. Now, what are you supposed to do? You hit the ground. He pepper sprays you after that. You're He was just putting his hands up to defend himself to try to defend that lady. And then they tackle him and [ __ ] kill him. You've seen it. >> I just showed it to you. >> Why did he go? Why was he there? Why did he have a gun? All right. What's your next clip? >> I don't know. I gave it to you. I can't play it. >> I'm saying which of the ones you sent me do you want me to play? >> Uh the Bill O'Reilly. He's the one that says how these are financially paid. >> Here's the most important part of this whole thing. Unreported. Okay. There is a man in Shanghai, China, an American citizen. His name is Neville Roy Singum. He works with the Beijing government. He is funneling millions of dollars into the United States of America through 501s like Party for Socialism and Liberation, Democratic Socialist of America, Minnesota Immigration Rights Action Committee. There he is. Okay. Connecticut born 71 years old billionaire tech guy. He is funneling money here to these rad radical organizations who are then agitating professional people, communists mostly because Singum's a communist. All right, to go in and foster rebellion. You heard that story reported? That is absolutely true. The man has been investigated by the FBI in the past. This Singum character, okay, this isn't some organic thing. This is a foreign power Beijing using this American citizen who lives openly in Shanghai in luxury knowing that this man is funneling tens of millions, probably more >> into this country to try to destroy the government. >> Yes. What do you think about that, Chad? What about that theory that he's trying to divide our government and paying these people to do all this here and organize it? I I literally don't care if people are helping the protesters by giving them money. >> So you don't care if someone outside the United States, a communist, is funneling money in just >> They said he's a communist. >> Great. I don't know anything about this guy. >> I am listening to your clip. I don't know anything about this guy. This seems like they're digging up anything they can to piss you off because they know you're watching. This >> guy said it was reported on the news. So play a little bit more and you'll see maybe. >> Okay. What the deuce is that? Where are you? New York Times. All right, that's the second part of the story. There's a local federal story and there's the international story. And I've had it. If you don't like what I'm saying, blank you. Cuz I'm telling you the truth. And this has got to stop and be exposed across the board. No more sanctuary states and cities. No more of this insurrection. It stops. And federal agents keep the guns in the holster unless you can't. Not I might. Got it. Everybody. >> Okay. Uh we actually had All right. >> Now listen to him. He's going to show the clip now where they showed it briefly on TV about that communist man funneling money into America. >> All right. Had somebody on. We've been following the Neville Roy Singum story. uh January 6. This is the free press reporter who's been working on it. Take a listen. >> Free press reporter. >> Neville Roy Singham. He's a tech millionaire. He's also a Marxist and he has very close ties to part of the propaganda machine of the Chinese Communist Party. And from 2017 to 2022, we were able to trace at least $20 million that was funneled into the People's Forum. >> That's not a lot, but money. >> Okay. Is that all you wanted to play this clip or do you still >> What do you think about that? That you you're okay with a communist from another country that was an American citizen. >> Yeah. $20 million. Are you okay with the five richest men in the world buying Donald Trump and him doing everything they want? >> I knew you were going to say that. You were going to say that wasn't >> they're trying to distract you with this by saying look there the protesters are bad because they're getting money from this guy who's a Chinese communist. Do you know why ICE is doing what it's doing? Do you really know why? >> I think they are getting the illegals out of here >> that Biden let us let cross over the border. >> Yes. Okay. Wrong. >> Can I say different? >> Yep. >> Can I say one more thing? >> Sure. >> Um the arrest of of Freddy today um I not the arrest of him. He was there because ICE was trying to arrest an Ecuadorian national who was in the US illegally and who has a criminal record including violent domestic assault, international body harm, disorderly conduct. He was also driving without a license. That's the guy that they were trying to take down that day. >> Okay, >> when that bad incident happened. I don't want that man dead. I don't want another single human dead. >> Right? >> This has to stop. I love Bill O'Reilly. And so why didn't they go after that guy instead of killing Alex Prey? >> They were trying. >> You No, they weren't. You saw the [ __ ] video. I just showed it to you. That guy in the beanie is a [ __ ] maniac who is just out in the street beating the [ __ ] out of whoever he wants and killing whoever he wants. It had nothing to do with chasing the bad guy. And by the way, this whole ICE thing has nothing to do with chasing the bad guy. You know how they put Listen, listen to what I'm saying. What? >> Listen to me. Listen. >> I'm listening. >> You know how he put a quota for ICE? You have to deport or detain 3,000 people a week? Do you remember that? >> Yes. You told me. >> Do you know why they did that? >> No. >> Because Trump's buddies own and operate all of the facilities that house these detained people. And the United States government gives those guys money based on how many people are in their facilities. So, I want 3,000 a week coming in because every one of them has a [ __ ] price tag on their head. That money paid for by US taxpayers gets funneled into the people who own the detainment facilities and then they put money in Trump's coffers. It is a big cycle of money. These people are simply dollar signs to Donald Trump. That is the entire game here. >> I don't agree with you on that. That >> That's literally true. I don't agree with you, >> but it's literally true. >> I tr I totally feel like they are getting the bad guys out of here for all >> I understand you feel like that cuz that's what they're telling you. That's party line. >> The more that they get in the street and agitate, blow the whistles, do what Tim Waltz is telling them to do, to get out there, demonstrate, blow the whistles. >> They're shielding the bad people that should be out of here. They're trying to make make it okay. Those bad people need to get out of here one way or another. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, you don't believe that these um >> prison systems throughout time have always been to where they have to stay in, federal people make the money, but not federal people. These are private companies that run all of these things. They have contracts. >> Most of them are at this point. They have contracts with the government and they get subsidy money based on how many people are in their facility. So ICE is told fill these [ __ ] facilities. >> Okay. But it that makes no difference to you that this is a money-making project for all of Trump's billionaire buddies who are in the detention. >> I don't think it is. >> Business arena. >> I don't think it is. >> Huh? >> I don't think it is. >> Do you think I'm just lying? >> I don't think it is. >> So you think I'm lying? >> I don't know. Okay. >> I I don't think that is part of this deal. I think it's getting the bad people out. >> They're not all going into prisons. They're sending them home, too. >> You can illegally. You can get out of here now. >> Then let's look at this clip. Here we go. Ready? >> Okay. >> The water is putrid. >> Even though baby formula has to be mixed with this water. Sometimes kids can't even drink it. The food often has bugs. It has dirt. It has particles. Medical care is routinely denied. My client, a si, one of my clients had appendicitis, a child in this same Elgal family. The officials at this facility when he came to them writhing in pain, screaming and crying, they told him, "Take a Tylenol and come back in 3 days." It wasn't until he passed out and started vomiting in the hallway that somebody finally came and took him to an urgent care where they made him sit for 6 hours but without a doctor without an appendecttomy before they finally in the middle of the night someone decided well maybe we should take this kid to San Antonio for for his surgery. That's the type of treatment that these children are experiencing in this place. What does that make you worry or imagine maybe happening at times behind closed doors in these detention centers? >> Well, I I don't have to imagine it. Other clients of mine are detained in places like the East Montana facility in uh Texas. They are being beaten by guards. They wrap flannel around their fists. They take them into the shower where there's no cameras and they beat them up so that it doesn't leave bruises. uh that is that is uh what is being experienced in some of these facilities. It's very difficult to that was an adult that particular story. Um but these children are routinely subject to verbal abuse to racial abuse to guards telling them if they try and complain when somebody told me today don't waste my oxygen. That's a line that the ICE officers say if you try to ask for a little bit more food uh maybe a little bit more privacy, religious accommodations. So, uh, the Trump administration, they're professional liars. Uh, nobody should expect anything different. They're now assassinating American citizens in the streets of American cities. >> Okay. What do you think of that? >> If that is true, that's not good. >> Okay. It is true. >> Who is this guy that you just put? >> That guy is a lawyer for multiple clients of people that are in these facilities. He is talking to his clients. They are telling him this is what's going on. There's bugs on food. >> You know what's kind of crazy is some of these clips you show me, it's the first time I've ever seen them ever. >> No [ __ ] Because they don't play this on [ __ ] Newsmax. >> No, it's not just Newsmax. I get online all the time. I get on Tik Tok, uh, Instagram, I get on Facebook. Have you ever seen that clip? >> Because you're locked in your algorithm. Your algorithm only perpetuates what you want to see. That's how all of these social media companies work. They know exactly what's going to keep you watching that screen. And for you, it ain't this. It ain't the truth. It's a perpetual cycle of fear and anger. Fear and anger. Fear and anger. >> What makes you the scare? What make what scares you the most and what makes you the most angry? That's all they give you the most. I don't know what's true anymore. I really don't know what's true anymore. >> Do you believe what I'm telling you? >> Some of it, yes. But do you believe what I'm telling you? >> I believe you think it's real. You show me these clips of like Carl Higgby and [ __ ] He's That dude is a [ __ ] idiot. I'm sorry. >> Is Bill O'Reilly a [ __ ] idiot? >> I don't know if he's an idiot or if he's like maliciously lying. He's made a career obviously of being on this pulpit talking against the left, etc., etc. I don't think he's an idiot either. I think he's actually like a sinister, malicious person. >> I don't think either one are idiots. I think they're >> Pig Be is a [ __ ] idiot. >> No, he's not. >> Okay. No, he's not. >> The bottom line is this. This whole thing is about money. I have told you this that these facilities get paid per how many people they are housing. They don't give a [ __ ] per that lawyer about the conditions for these people. It's just like pack as many as you can in there. I'm sure you've read the stories or seen the pictures, maybe you haven't, I don't know, about how they pack 12 people into a cell and there's only one bed, one toilet, and it's like [ __ ] you, you're in there because they get paid for every one of them. They don't care if those people die, need medical conditions. They don't care. It's just about money. Trump doesn't care because he's getting kickbacks from this. >> Trump wants the bad guys out of this country to make it safer for us. And I do believe that. I have not seen any pictures where there's 12 people in one room. >> You keep saying that. You keep saying that Trump wants the bad guys out. Then why does he pardon a Honduran drug lord? Why did he just pardon a guy who had a meth conviction that was not even close to done serving his sentence? Why is he pardoning bad guys? >> A family member that was sick. I think I read about that. No, it was a family member. That's a congressman who's a Trump supporter. >> Okay. >> If you're saying he's going to get rid of these bad guys, why does he keep pardoning bad guys? >> They're not all bad. >> Every person he's pardoned is convicted of some crime. A lot of them are financial moneyaundering [ __ ] like that, fraud. And these are people who owe hundreds of millions of dollars to the US government. Gone. That's absolved. >> He's not the first president to do this. I'm sure Biden and Obama have done the same pardons with some other people. But see, because you hate Trump so bad. >> Hang on. You're not answering the question. Why is he pardoning drug dealers? One of whom? Hang on. Hang on. One of whom brought more cocaine into this country than anyone in history. >> That should not have ever happened. >> Okay. But he did do it. So your argument that he's trying to get rid of the bad people is not accurate. He is pardoning the bad people >> and getting rid of the bad people, too. [laughter] >> You can't do both. >> I think he is. I guess >> he's letting bad people >> He's letting bad people out of jail. He is putting anyone he can into these >> detention centers, these concentration camps because he needs them full to make money. What about all the judges, the federal judges that let them out for all kinds of crimes, then they then they kill someone else, then they go back in and then they're let out again. How about all those people? That's okay. >> What? >> I had one written down, but I can't look at my notes. Let me do it. >> Trump did that with all the January 6th. He pardoned them all. Multiple of them have now committed violent crimes. Like I said, I'm to the point right now where I'm getting bombarded with all kinds of stuff. I don't know what's true anymore. I don't know what's what's fake. I don't know what's AI generated half the time. I kind of do because I kind of know how to look for it. >> That Michael Jackson video was kind of where I'm at. Just to let you know. >> Yes, I do know that. And I loved it. I did love it. >> But I I want you to like you're you're still ignoring this point. You you keep saying he's getting rid of all the bad guys. I want you to really think about this. If that was true, if Trump had a hard line against like we have to get all the criminals out of America and reduce the crime rate, why would he pardon some of the biggest drugrelated criminals that we have? >> I have told you I don't know. Chad, >> can I tell you what I think it may be? >> Yes, that would be great. >> That he doesn't give a [ __ ] about crime because he himself is a convicted felon and has committed fraud. He's been caught in a lot of different schemes. Clearly, he's all over the Epstein files criminally, and all he gives a [ __ ] about is money and putting his name on things. So, when a Honduran drug lord is in our jail system serving out, I believe it was a 45-year sentence, he pardons him because he knows that is going to get him money somehow when that guy goes back to wherever he's from and he's going to install him in that right-wing government and that government's going to pay him money now, just like all these other governments have done. >> If you guys If you guys hate Trump so bad, >> hang on. This has nothing to do with hating Trump. You're not. Yes, it is. When I say these things, you pivot and you're like, "If, well, if you hate Trump so bad, no, no, no." Listen to what I'm saying. And I want you to think about this. >> Why is he pardoning crazy level criminals if really his goal is to get crime out of the United States? Why would he pardon criminals? >> I've told you I don't know. >> Think about it. >> I'm trying. >> And I'm giving you some breadcrumbs here. >> He pardons them because it means more money for him. And the people that he's putting in these detention camps are not necessarily criminals. I'm sure some of them are, but most are not. 75% of the people at Alligator Alcatraz had no criminal record. >> I had statistics for that. I don't know where it is. You won't let me look at my notes. >> Look at that. >> Obama and Obama had more people in there wrongly accused in prisons when he was doing deportations than than Trump ever has. And so if you want to go on statistics, look those up. >> But but what does that have to do with what Trump is doing right now? >> Well, you're always going back that Trump's a bad guy. >> No, I don't like [ __ ] Almost every US politician that has been president in my lifetime. I do not like. And you and dad always think because we're against Trump that that means we must be Democrats. We're not. Me and Haley are not. >> Okay. >> Okay. I just >> I just I I'm tired of it all. I don't want anybody else killed. I want this situation You have to like but reposition how you think about this because you you come into all of these situations with a preconceived madeup game plan. Trump is doing the right thing and I support him and he's my president. >> And so even when you're presented with evidence, video evidence in some cases like the video I showed you of that ICE agent throwing three people to the ground seemingly for fun. They were not obstructing him in any way. He just walks up to him and starts shoving them pepper sprays and then kills one of them. I showed you that video and you still you have to revert back to well ICE needs to do what they need to do and they the Alex Prey and those two women were doing something bad. You saw the video. You literally saw that that's not the case yet somehow steal your brain. >> Ice is there. Why if you know ICE is there trying to take down a bad guy do you get in their way? That's the part of my brain I can't get. >> I would never go there and especially not with a gun. >> Okay. Even if I was protesting, Chad, >> right? I understand. >> Now that we know people have been killed and have died, >> why would you put yourself in in harm's way like that? >> Because we are at an inflection point in this country >> where ICE is operating uncontested. I saw a video this week of a bunch of protesters outside a hotel where ICE agents were staying and one of the ICE agents, they're all up in this window looking down at the protesters. One of them pulls down his pants and shows his [ __ ] to the protesters. That's a federal law enforcement agent. Um, obviously not very professional, but that attitude of it's us versus them. [ __ ] these people that now exists in ICE at a level that is I mean, we haven't seen anything like it before. And so you're asking about like >> because they're agitating them. They're pushing and agitating them. Get out of their effing way, go home. They'll be out of there. >> They'll get however get out of their fing and then they'll take everything and leave. You're missing a big part of this. You're saying get out of their effing way and go home. ICE agents now >> are able to kick in your door and come into your home. There is no place that is safe from them and they can do whatever they want. You just saw that video. That ICE agent pushes three people to the ground and executes one of them. So there is nowhere. >> They need a they have to have a warrant to come through. >> No, that's wrong. They don't. So we are living in that country now. And that's why I showed you that picture of the Nazi executing that guy in the street juxtaposed with what happened to Alex Prey because it's happening here now. And so Alex Prey and these two women and whoever else is out there protesting, they recognize what's going on and they are saying we are America that we are not going to stand for this [ __ ] in this country and they're putting their lives on the line. There is nothing more American than that. >> They are I I would stay in my house and I would let them get out. I would >> they can kick in your door and drag you out >> if that is their choice to go out there and be that close to ICE agents whether they are blowing the whistle or standing there or not. I would not go there. I would not be within the feet of those ICE agents. >> That's fine. And that's your choice to stay inside and cowardly allow ICE to do what they want. That is your choice and you can do that. >> It's not cowardly. It's a smart choice, I think. >> Okay. What? However you want to view it. The only way I'd go out there in the street if it was you or Haley that they were dragging away or if they were going after you a baby or a kid, something like that, then I would protect. >> They've already done that. We talked about it on Sunday. They've arrested a 5-year-old and a 2-year-old this last week. >> No. >> And that 5-year-old is in that >> dad, the illegal dad left the boy and fled. >> Okay. >> The ICE agents could not leave the kid standing there in the cold. >> Well, now that kid is in that facility that I showed you the clip of. where they don't have drinking water, they don't have medicine, and ICE agents are telling him, "Shut the [ __ ] up," and beating people up in the showers. That kid is in there. >> I said, "That is the first time you've shown that to me, and that's not right. >> It's the first time I've shown it to you, but there are thousands of videos like this all over the internet." And again, you just don't see them. >> Why am I not seeing them? >> I have explained this to you. >> Algorithms. >> Yes. Instagram, Tik Tok, Facebook, they are the algorithm finds out what you want to watch and then it feeds you only that. >> What if I just Google that uh I'm an agitator? I'm an ice agitator. Blah blah blah. Will it show me other things? >> If you Google I'm an ice agitator. >> I mean I'm a Yeah, I'm an agitator of ice. Where do I go? Where do I go? >> Google that. I guess I I don't really know what you mean by this, but I'm just trying to in get in a tracking group then. Will I see other things on my internet? >> Yeah, I I don't know. Maybe. I mean, all you have to do is like watch go on Instagram and look up like uh CNN or something. Just follow their account. >> One of those >> you'll start getting these kinds of videos. >> Huh? >> I thought a clip that I did send you CNN >> or CNN's a bad example. Don't don't look at mainstream media. Go follow like Midas Touch. Follow David Pacman. follow Brian Tyler Cohen and you'll start seeing different videos. And I think that that's a huge problem for you and dad. I mean, dad I know specifically he doesn't even look at the internet. All he sees is news, Max. That's like the only place he's getting his news. >> Well, he Yeah. >> Huh. >> He was up late last night on the internet trying to figure out our social security stuff. >> Okay. I'm just saying that you are in a bubble in terms of where you get your information from. The fact that you are completely unaware of the fact that the conditions in all these detention centers are terrible speaks to that end because they're not telling you that news. >> I think you're in a bubble that you just hate Trump and you'll find anything against him and hate him as much as you can. >> I mean, I have befriended so many people or blocked on Facebook like the last couple weeks. Just terrible. I'm not going to look at that [ __ ] anymore. >> Look at what [ __ ] um where they post Trump in coffins and can't wait till he's dead and stuff like that. >> I think that's coming. By the way, I I think this guy's got a month left. >> A month? >> Yeah, he's looking real bad up on that bet. That's not right. >> All right. Um yeah, that's fine. You don't have to obviously look at the the [ __ ] that's supporting Trump's death. I don't wish ill on him, [laughter] but I will be happy when he's dead. >> Um >> sad. Very sad. >> Is it? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You guys used to say this [ __ ] about Biden all the time. >> No. >> Oh god. >> We never wished him dead. We'd wished him out of presidency and gone, but not dead. >> Dead multiple times on our show. >> Okay. >> I just I thank you for doing these things with me because I know it is it's obviously difficult. Like part of what this show is about is trying to get you to like see past your little bubble. Specifically, these these Busting the Magubble episodes are that. So when I'm showing you these videos, it's like you question their authenticity. You don't think they're real or even if they are like that video I showed you the ice age. >> Was it not good enough for me to >> Was it not good enough? Good enough. Is that the right word? Was it not? No, that's not good enough. That's not right. I said to you, I saw the gun taken away from him. Then I heard the shot. Not right. >> That was not right. >> But it goes way far beyond that. There's no investigation into it. >> Why was he there? >> Because he's protesting an illegal secret police force murdering US citizens in the street. >> We are again in that first phase of Nazi Germany. And there are some Americans who are especially in Minnesota. >> He was there a week prior. He knew the harshness of him. >> The week prior he even said that he feared for his life. Uhhuh. >> If I feared for my life, I don't think I'd jump back in and go the next way to the same thing that I would >> and that's your choice. He's a different kind of person. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry he did that cuz now he's not here. It's sad. >> He didn't do it. That ICE [ __ ] did it. That this is how like your brain is scrambled. This is not Alex Py's fault. He did nothing illegal, nothing wrong. A maniac ICE agent or I don't know how many of them shot him. Multiple of them shot him. Then instead of administering care to him as he's dying on the concrete, they rip open his shirt and count the bullet holes, high-fiving each other. Good job. >> Now, where the hell did you see that? I've never seen that. See, you're seeing stuff I don't see. So, there's an interview with you. >> There's an interview on CNN right now with Anderson Cooper and the woman in the pink coat, the woman who took that video. >> She describes everything she saw. >> Okay. I'll have I'll have to look that up. I haven't seen that one. >> Okay. Exactly. So, and you were even saying that on Sunday, you need to see more from the woman in the pink coat because she saw everything. Well, Anderson Cooper literally has an entire conversation with her. It's on CNN right now and she describes everything that has happened. >> Everything she saw, including what I just said. >> I will watch it. >> Okay. Well, thank you for doing this. Um, I I I at this point it's very hard for me to think of anything that might penetrate through to you aside from like you and dad getting dragged away by ice basically. I I don't know. Um, I'm showing you like irrefutable video evidence of this and somehow your eyes are not seeing what is there. >> It's because I'm not seeing it. You're right. >> Yeah, but even when I show it to you, when we watch it together, you still seem to not see it. But I will continue with this no matter what because I do think you're salvageable, Mom. >> I'm salvageable. Salvageable. >> But thank you for doing this. I love you. Um I guess we'll see you Sunday. >> Maybe. Okay. Love you too. >> We can even do this. All right. Thank you everybody for joining us. We will see you Sunday as well. Bye.