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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coulchin. My sister has abandoned us today. What is she doing? wasting money in Boston. She's with friends. Okay. And so it's just me and my mom and my dad talking about the six biggest political issues that occurred this week. Before we get to that, we will have a listener question. And before we get to that, mom, do you have a diddy? I have a bunch because you I'll do a couple. Nina Pool. My next dupe uh is Palmer's Cocoa Butter Swivel Stick. Oh my goodness. Where's the There it is. This is like Oops. Where'd I go? There it is. Swivel stick because you pop this lid open and this turns into anything for dry skin, chapstick, all this good stuff. I love it. It was 125 at the dollar store. Amazon has them three for um $8. and she was on a dupe with her husband and her husband was using this. It was really cute. I like this. I like this a lot. Uh we've had terrible weather the last oh two days. We were up last night with Kitty a bunch. Tornadoes all around. It's crazy. Uh we've been up all night with her. Thunder she just can't handle. In the last uh few days too, 24 tornadoes ripping through five different states. People were dead. It's very bad weather. Please be weather aare. That's why we're taping early today so we can get out to a shiny. Uh, Pope Leo I 14th. We were just watching the mass. Dad was saying it in Latin. It was pretty cool. Um, it was in Vatican City. It happened. Well, it's on the news right now, but it happened already in Rome at 10:00 a.m. this morning. 250,000 people. Vance Rubio and family were there. He talked heavily about unity, about um harmony and preserving um uh Christianity in the heritage of the people. So I thought that was very nice. We liked it. And dad was doing it in Latin. He knows that high mass in Latin because he was an alter boy. You want to say anything about it? No. Okay. I can't believe you didn't have this as a topic. Here we go. 8647. When I told you to look that up, you go, "What?" You didn't even know. Yeah. He just said 8647. A funny number. James Comey tweeted this, right? Or posted on Instagram. He posted on Instagram. Said he found this at a beach with seashells. Bulloney. I'm calling the [ __ ] card on him. He knows exactly what this means. It means to take him out. It means it means to get rid of him. I don't think it him. get. Okay. Of course. Yeah. Liberals and Democrats don't think that now. Why would you tweet that? Elon Musk did a Nazi salute and you don't think he did that? So, we're even. Okay. Whatever. I think it I he's already being investigated by the CIA and they need to continue and they need to do something about this because that's just stupid. Um what what would they do about it, Mom? Put him in jail. He He is insinuating. Oh my gosh. Put him in jail for a tweet. He's insinuating to assassinate our president. Okay. Okay. Laugh all you want. I can't believe you're laughing about that. Please believe it. Oh my lord. Okay. Um how many diddies we got here? What's going on? This is the last one. Thank you. Uh Thunder up today at 2:30. Our Thunder in Oklahoma City plays u the Nuggets. Yeah, they're three and three. So, the winner will go on to the Western Championship and we wish them the best. Who's your favorite player on the Thunder? Um, the big tall uh black guy. What is his name? Bob, help me. He's the best. Alexander. Yeah. Why are you laughing about that? Okay, let's Can I Can I not say that? You can say it. Let's move on to the listener question. We take a question from a listener every week. If you have a question, just record it in a one minute or shorter video preferably format. Email it to the necessary conversationpodgmail.com. Are you ready for this week's question, Mom and Dad? Yep, we're ready. Hey there, culture and family. This is Ty come coming in from uh Virginia Beach, Virginia. Um I'm a 37year-old married male with one kid. Uh hopefully Bob will be cool with my question. You know, mix it up for you, Chad. Uh, love to listen to you guys every week. Um, gets my blood pumping going into work. Um, question for you guys though. Uh, Bob and Mary Lou, when was the first moment you realized that Trump was the man and he was going to be the right guy for the job to bring in the new glorious America? And on the flip side of the coin to to Chad and Haley, when was the moment that you guys realized, man, this guy's unhinged and this guy is not going to be doing any of the thing he says and he's just a straightup comment. Uh, again, love you guys show. Listen to it every week. Keep up the good work and cheers. A, that's a good question. Yeah, it is. So, you go first. Go for Oh, you want me to go first? Yes. The moment I realized Trump was completely inept, I mean, you kind of always knew it because he has so many failed businesses. So many jokes are made about him. He's the punchline of all kinds of Simpsons jokes, uh, standup comedian jokes. He was never like a serious person. The the moment though that I was like, "This guy is a total pile of shit." was that October before the election when the Access Hollywood tape came out with him and Billy Bush and he openly bragged about sexually assaulting women. I was like, there's no way this guy can win. And then he did. But that moment to me and I think for a lot of people crystallized like this dude is a terrible person, not serious, cannot do this job, and would be a liability to America, which is now proving to be true. How about you guys? When was the moment that you realized he was your Lord and Savior? Go ahead, Bob. When he started changing everything that Biden had done early, so not even in his first term. Well, I'm talking about Obama. Yeah, we had to have You said Biden, though. He meant Obama. We have We had to have a change way back then. Biden doesn't exist. Obama's been the president for 12 years. But you called him Biden. Yeah, he meant Obama. Okay. Just want to get this straight, mom. Yeah, we had to have a change or we would not What was the moment for you? We had to have a change or we would So, Dad, you were unable to provide the moment. You said when he started changing things that Biden did, what was the first thing that he changed? Well, I meant to say uh Obama. Barack Obama. Okay. So, what was the first thing that he changed that Obama did? Well, the first thing that he started doing was tighten tightening up the immigration. And what was that first bill he passed? Oh, I can't remember. Okay. Mom, well, this this time around closing the border for sure. Everything he did on the first second day. Okay. So, you two then the first time you realized he was the guy for the job was during this second term? No. No. We liked him the first go around too. There was no way. So what was the first thing he did? The question is what is the thing he did that made you realize oh my god this is the guy I think because he was a businessman businessman before he perfectly that's not an incident. He perfectly badmouththed how we got out of Afghanistan. Yeah. He perfectly badmouththed. So saying something derogatory pull out the history of the American of the American history. Gave away billions of dollars of arms to the Taliban. So none of this is an exact moment, but I I hopefully that answers your question. It's an exact moment when he said this was all horseshit. There's too many just to say wowy woo. Exact [ __ ] second. You didn't give just one. You gave a bunch. No, I gave one. the Access Hollywood tape coming out in October of right before the the 2016 election. Hello. Okay, I'm saying there's way too many moments. We love him. Okay, hopefully that answers your question. Let's move on. Before we begin today's show, Mom and Dad, I want to tell you something. I want to open the show by saying that Trump did something this week that I agree with 100%. H this is I'm going to read this statement he made verbatim. This is from Truth Social. So, I'm going to read it so there's no confusion. Are you ready? I'm really ready. This is Donald J. Trump on his own platform. Walmart should stop trying to blame tariffs as the reason for raising prices throughout the chain. Walmart made billions of dollars last year, far more than expected. Between Walmart and China, they should, as is said, eat the tariffs and not charge valued customers anything. I'll be watching and so will your customers. Now, he here is going after the biggest American corporation. Just [ __ ] all over it. And I'm all for this. I'm not I don't think they're [ __ ] He's [ __ ] on Walmart. Okay, let's go back. Did you not hear what I literally just read? Those were his words. One step. Your your impersonation of him is getting worse instead of better. So, keep the practice up. Okay. Please keep practicing. I will. Um I don't think he's [ __ ] on What are you talking about? I'll be watching you and so were your customers. Walmart should stop trying to blame terrorists. Walmart made billions last year, far more than expected. Uhhuh. He is saying, "Fuck you, Walmart." And I love it. I agree with him here. Any company that makes billions of dollars and indeed any billionaire should have to be paying these costs, especially retailers. What about Amazon then and all that? Throw them in there, too. Is he [ __ ] on Amazon? Not specifically here. I'm just But he is on Walmart. Well, I don't like Walmart anymore anyway. Interesting. Dad, how do you feel about going in there? I think the store's gone down. Yeah, we don't shop there unless we just absolutely have to. Have to. Okay. So, you're against Walmart, too, now? I kind of am. All right. Interesting. Well, um, like I said, I agree with everything he said in here. I'm against billionaires. I don't think they should exist. And corporations that make billions of dollars should certainly foot more of the expense for the general cost of living for the average citizen than should the citizen themselves in my humble opinion. Um, all right. Are you ready to move on to our first topic? Yes, the big beautiful jet. This week, Trump made it known that he plans to accept a $400 million Boeing 7478 jet from Qar's royal family to serve as a temporary Air Force One replacement due to delays in Boeing's delivery of the new presidential aircraft. Trump plans to transfer the jet to his presidential library after his term. Estimates for retrofitting the jet with necessary security features are estimated to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Beyond the hefty price tag for the American taxpayers, accepting such a lavish gift may violate the US Constitution's imalments clause, which prohibits federal officials from receiving gifts from foreign governments without congressional approval. During his Middle East trip this week, Trump met with authoritarian Qatari Amir Tamim bin Hammad Alani, securing over 243 billion dollars in commercial and defense deals with Qatar. Dad, do you think a president should be allowed to accept gifts from foreign countries? Yeah, the way they accept them, you keep it until you retire and then they put it in your library. But I don't think you get to uh accept it on behalf of yourself while you're president. Mom, don't touch the microphone. I'm Well, I don't want to fall off the chair. Okay. Don't let it fall off the chair. Okay. Why is it Are you balancing it precariously on the edge of the chair? Why? Well, try not to rock the chair. Just Just I want to rock my chair. Okay. God damn. What do you mean why? What? Be careful. Oh my god. And mom, your half your face is out of the frame. I'm here. Okay. Mom, do you think that a president should be allowed to accept gifts from foreign countries? I think all presidents do. I think Sleepy Joe does it did it under the table. Didn't tell anyone. That's why they all went into, you know, all of his records to find all the millions that his family had gained. Trump is doing it in the open. And he I you know what I think he's doing? I think he's putting pressure on Boeing to hurry up his new one that he's supposed to get from here in the United States that is not done. What's wrong with letting him have that for a while then putting it in a museum later, giving it up when Boeing puts his new one in for him, gets it done? Well, I mean, the the big thing that's wrong with it is it will cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars to retrofit that plane, to do a security sweep on it to make it secure for the president of the United States to be flying around doing his dealings in. And that is very important so that someone doesn't take him out or shoot him down. All right. I I'm willing to pay money for that. Do you, Dad, do you think the Qatari government bugged the plane? It won't matter if they re retrofit it. Okay. Mom, do you think they did? No, I think they're friends. Everybody's friends. Okay. So, this is just a friendship gift. Do you think, Dad, that what does the Qatari government want from Trump? What do they want to get out of this? Peace in the Middle East. Okay. And you know what? If he would have said, "No, I can't take that." To me, that is also a gesture like, "Uh, don't like you, don't want it." Uhhuh. So, okay. I really think he was being friendly and said, "Okay." Yeah. How many trillions of investments did he bring back to the United States this time? 42 trillion maybe. They said uh 243 billion in commercial and defense deals from Qatar. So they offer him a plane. They do a little business with him. Dad, are you do you support Qatar in in this situation? Absolutely. Okay. Mom, a deal for a deal. Why not? Okay. So, do you know that Qatar supports Hamas and they're pro Palestinian? Yes, I do know that. So, if Trump accepts this gift, do you think that will fracture his relationship with Netanyahu and Israel at all? No. No. Why not? Because Netanyahu is going to go ahead and do what he wants to do anyway. Okay. With or without the United States. Sure. Hamas is done. Gaza belongs to Israel. You just get used to it. Okay. But Trump is now doing business with and accepting gifts from a country that supports Hamas. That's fine. It will change nothing. Okay. Mom, you feel the same? I kind of do. Yes. I I I feel that was a gift and he had to say, "Okay, thank you." If he didn't, then you know, deals are off, whatever, pieces off, whatever. Um I can't believe when Trump was over there, and I was watching some of it on TV, how it was insane. They laid out the red carpets. They did all this fancy stuff for him. Unbelievable nice welcome. Unbelievable nice welcome. It was to stroke his ego and it worked. I want to play for you now a clip that that would never happen for you know who. So there you go. Okay, I'm going to play for you a clip. This is a clip that has been going around the internet this week. Uh Daily Show on Comedy Central. Cut it together. It's footage of Donald Trump from uh the I believe it was the debate on early September that the first one that he did with Kla Harris that was in Philadelphia. It's him talking about Biden's administration accepting money from Qatar and Middle Eastern countries and it's cut together with himself now talking about it. So you get to see what his opinion was. He he didn't accept any money from Qatar. Okay, let me just play the clip. Here we go. Ready? He hasn't accepted any money. Okay, he's going to accept a $400 million jet and he I just read this. Okay, he has secured a $243 billion deal in commercial and defense. He sold and he didn't accept money. Let him play. But he's going to accept a $400 million jet. It's a It's a deal. Okay. You don't understand. You don't understand business at all. Okay. Here we go. Let's see if I can hunt that. Okay. All right. Let me play this clip. See what you think of this. You don't have any idea how to do a business. All right. Let me play this clip. See how you feel about it. Okay. Are you ready? Yes. Arabia giving $25 million. Qar, all of these countries. These are people that kill women and treat women horribly. And yet you take their money. Not a gift to me. It's a gift to the Department of Defense. And you should know better. Why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly? You should be embarrassed asking that question. Uh they're giving us a free jet. I could say, "No, no, no. Don't give us I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is." Or I could say, "Thank you very much. Why don't you give back the money?" I think it would be a great gesture. I thought it was a beautiful gesture. Now, there are those that say we shouldn't be accepting gifts to the defense department, and I would say only a stupid person would say that. It should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. We're giving to everybody else. Why wouldn't I accept a gift? If I ever said that, that's quid proquo. All right. So, there you can see this is again back in September of 2024, right before the election. He had one attitude about this. Now, he seems to have a completely different attitude. Do you see that in this clip? No. He needs an airplane. He needs something to fly around in. So, you're just completely ignoring the fact that just a few months later contradicting himself. Quit yelling. The difference is he didn't accept cash. Biden did. How is that different? It's completely different. How? Because it's not worth if you accept cash, you can go spend it how you want. You accept an airplane. You're stuck with the airplane. Or you can sell the airplane. What? Or you can sell the airplane and you have He's not going to sell it. He's going to put it in the in the museum thing. He doesn't have to sell it. It's $400 million. It's not even that. It's 40 million. No, it's 400. No, it's 400. No. Yes, it is, Bob. It's not. Yes, it is, Bob. I know that's what they say, but that's not what it is. It is. It is. What are you talking about? That is exactly the price tag. Yes, it is. Okay, fine. All right, so we're just going to skip past that one, I suppose. Let's move on. I don't see anything wrong with it. On something that doesn't matter. Okay, watch the microphone. You're going to flip it off. Next topic is bad ombres. This week, reports emerged that the Trump administration used government resources to facilitate the entry of 17 Mexican citizens into America via a federal escort. The 17 gather intel. The 17 people were family members and associates of the son of notorious Mexican crime syndicate leader El Chapo. The individuals, including El Chropo's ex-wife and daughter, cross the border from Tijana under the protection of US officials. El Chapo's son is reportedly providing intelligence on cartel operations in exchange for leniency and protection for his family within the borders of America. Mexican President Claudia Shinbomb criticized the US for engaging in negotiations with members of a terrorist organization, a designation that Trump himself mandated in February of this year. Uh, Mom, do you think America is safer with 17 members of El Chapo's family now residing in our country? Yes, because I I Yes, I'll tell you why. Trump Whoa. Trump is not stupid. He did this for He did this for a reason. This was not a surrender. This is a deal. He's allowing them to come in here for information to take down all the rest of the How many How many U cartel families are there? Five, six. He's doing this as a deal and that makes it okay. Yeah. Yes. Do you remember when he said we they're bringing over criminals? I don't remember anything he said. He's gathering intelligence. It doesn't matter what he did two, three, four years ago. You keep going back and dragging up [ __ ] that has absolutely zero zero to do with today. Okay. No, you're wrong. Because Trump when Trump says something you're wrong. When Trump says something, you have to look at whether or not he comes through with whatever he's promising. Does he go back on that? Is he contradicting himself? You both agree. I I'm sure many times Trump has said only the worst people are coming across that border, criminals and rapists, etc. Now he's got him under his wing and under his control. This is gathering intelligence. He's making a deal. And I'm tired of arguing about this [ __ ] Stop. Well, then you don't have to. You You stormed off last week. You can storm off again if you want. No, we cannot storm off again. Not free to leave. I don't know why you get so mad about this. I'm just asking questions. You know, you're not asking questions. Yes, I am. You're trying to You're trying to open my mouth and cram a bunch of your horseshit down my throat and I'm not gonna take it. Okay. What What's the horseshit here, Dad? Did he bring in 17 cartel members to the United States? You Yes. to gather intelligence to get rid of all of them. Okay. And that's the part you geniusly leave out every [ __ ] week. Okay. So would you be okay if he brought members of ISIS to live in the United States? As long as we were getting intelligence about ISIS, we don't need he wiped ISIS out in two weeks. I I was a bit surprised to see that he let him in. But yeah, it they didn't surrender. I don't They didn't surrender. They um to my knowledge, these 17 members of that cartel are now living in America witness protection style. We taxpayers are paying for their lives. 100% correct. When I Googled, I can't see. It doesn't say. It doesn't say. Well, I mean, that's generally how they do that kind of a thing. I'm very surprised that you're okay with this, especially because one of your main points that you always make is border security. We have to be safer here. We can't have these illegals coming in. And guess what? We already are, you dumbass. Oh my god. He's going to get more information out of these people to take down the five other families. I think there's no these people aren't giving him any information. It's El Chapo's son. You don't know yet. It's El Chapo's son is the one who made the deal. He said, "Bring my family. Bring these 17 members of our cartel into your country. Protect them and I'll flip and I will give you some information." Now, who knows if I thought he didn't get any. Huh? I thought Yeah, you said that they didn't. Please stop. I tell you, why are you so mad? Quit being mad today. Talk at the wall. I did. What? Hang on a minute. Dad, why are you so mad? Because you don't listen to [ __ ] except I'm listening to everything you say. Mommy crap. Ola, I listen to everything you say and I try to engage in conversation and then you try to flip it. What? How did I flip it? Just let just just listen to it and shut your mouth. Listen to what? What I'm telling you. I am listening and then I ask you a question about what you said. You to shut your mouth. Well, how is that a conversation? It's not. And I don't You just want to yell at me and and have me I don't I don't get one. I don't get a [ __ ] conversation. You can go if you want. Everything comes out of my mouth is absolutely wrong and everything comes out of your mouth is absolutely right. No, not everything that comes out of your mouth is wrong. But when you say things that are factually incorrect, I have to tell you that you and me are not talking about this anymore. Okay, just as an example, when you said the jet cost $40 million, that's wrong. Did I hear Did I tell you what I just said? Yes. You didn't tell me what you just said. I'm not talking to you about it anymore. Okay. Well, let me ask you this question. Do you think you're ever wrong? You're not asking me any more questions. Go ahead. Well, then you What do you want me to do here then? That's what this is. I ask you questions about these things. Okay. So, you're just going to sit there silent now? Might as well then do talk. What are you talking about? Did you or did you not say the jet is worth $40 million? How many times do I have to tell you? Just say you were wrong. It's $400 million. Just say it. You were wrong. How tough is that? There you go. He can't say $400 million. Now, shut up. You were wrong, right? I was wrong on the number. Okay. Okay. An admission. We are making a little bit of progress. Baby steps. Little inch there. All right. Um, it's okay. No. Yes, it is. The second communist thinks he's got his way. Oh my god. Oh dear. All right, we'll move on to another topic. Chosen by the communist. Jesus. Why? Okay. Trump loses in court again. Huh? I don't want to hear it. He isn't. He's a communist. I don't want to hear that. Hang on a minute. Dad, why do you think I'm a communist? Because you are. Oh god. Here we go. What indicates that to you? Everything about you. Such as my haircut. Don't have to go. Such as. All right. No examples. No evidence. Oh, plenty of evidence. Our son is not a communist. Yes, he is. No, he is not. Just start investigating. He just said I should investigate you. Oh god. Okay, let's move on. Our third topic is Trump loses in court again. This week, the US Supreme Court issued a 7-2 ruling blocking the Trump administration's attempt to use the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to expedite the deportation of Venezuelan migrants accused of gang affiliations. The court determined that the administration violated due process by providing only 24 hours notice and insufficient legal information to detaineees, denying them a fair opportunity to contest their removal. Trump responded with public outrage, criticizing the court's decision as undermining national security. He amplified a suggestion from a former GOP staffer, Mike Davis, to release suspected terrorists near the homes of Supreme Court justices. In enforcing the court's decision, lower courts have issued injunctions requiring the administration to provide adequate notice and legal avenues for detainees to challenge their deportations. However, reports indicate that the administration has proceeded with deportations despite court orders leading to legal disputes and calls for contempt proceedings against officials. Mom, you just got bent out of shape because James Comey took a picture of those seashells. Now Trump is tweeting that he's going to release criminals near the houses of Supreme Court justices. Do you think that's a If they make him not able to get them out of here or if they make him bring them back, I' I'd do that, too. I'd put them on the doorsteps of those people that that think they should be here. Invite them in for a dinner. You don't see that? Let them rape you. Let them strangle you. Let's see how you like that. Okay, Dad, do you see it as a threat? No. All right. He's doing silent treatment now. Is that what we're doing? There's nothing to talk about. Okay. Um, let me ask you this. I guess I'll ask you, Dad. Let's see if I can get a Whoa. You all right? Really? Really? What What' you have there? Some popcorn. God. Okay, Dad. For those just listening to this, my dad just dug in the back of his mouth to pull something out. I don't [ __ ] know. Please, Dad. Do you think? [Laughter] I can't even look at him. Does Donald Trump have to obey the Supreme Court, Dad? No. No. Why? because he's the law. Oh, we've been over this. There's the answer. Move on. No. All right, Mom. I'm going to ask you. Do you think Donald Trump has to obey the Supreme Court? I think he should. Yes. Okay. So, you're against what he's doing here? No. I think these guys should be gone out of here. Um, but there's no way that we can give each and every one of these guys a trial. They'll never be gone. They'll never be gone. trial years and years and years and years. That's how we've done it up until this point. If you are not a citizen, you need to leave. They are giving them 100 I think it not 100,000. They're giving them $1,000. Turn yourself in. Get out of here. We'll give you $1,000. Come back the right way. But what is that? None of that is an issue here. The Supreme Court has said you cannot do what you're doing. These people need to have the ability of due process so that if they get detained and they believe it's unlawful, they can challenge that in a court. And the Trump administration is saying, "Fuck you. We're sending them. They don't care. They the Trump administration is openly defying the Supreme Court." Not if they're cit if they're not a citizen, they need to go. But last week you said everybody should have habius corpus. I know. But if you're not a citizen, you need to go. So you're going back on that. your flip. I've seen it. I'm seeing a little bit of it here. In the area that we live, if you do not have papers, if you are not a citizen, you better leave now or they will take you. Okay. But and you think that's okay? If again, the Supreme Court here, let me ask you this, Dad. You said Trump doesn't have to obey the Supreme Court. Why do you think we have a Supreme Court? There's no reason to. You want to do away with it entirely. Yes. But wait a minute. You're a huge Constitution guy. You know that the Supreme Court Yeah. And the Supreme Court doesn't follow the Constitution, so it should be eliminated. How are they not following it? They don't. How? In what way? Give me an example of them not following. That's what we're talking about right now. It's against the Constitution. What is them blocking Trump from putting the uh handcuffs on these people. Now, I'm going to say this. You're not going to like it, but you are wrong. Oh, I'm always wrong. Constitution sets up a system of three separate but equal branches of government. The executive, which is the president, the legislative, which is the Congress. We can I understand all that. You don't need to keep going over it. And the judicial. Okay. Okay. The judicial is corrupt. It needs to be eliminated. So you're saying do away with the Constitution. No. Do away with the Supreme Court. That's in the Constitution. No, it's not. Yes, it is. How are you saying that? Um, judicial system is in this constitution. Doesn't say it has to be the Supreme Court. So, what court do you think should be presiding over this issue? Whatever one we set up after we get rid of them. He's going to say Trump. Trump. I mean, I I know you don't want to admit this, but you are not supporting the Constitution. Oh, God. Okay, fine. You're right. Communist. So, when you call me a communist, it might actually be you who's the communist. I doubt that. Okay, move on. Of the three of us here, you're the only person who wants to destroy the Constitution. No, that's not what I want to do. Okay. You just want to destroy That's you putting words in my mouth again. You just said you want to get rid of the Supreme Court. That's right. They are the head of one of the three branches of government. This today has to go. Okay. The one that by the way was created by Trump. No, it wasn't created by Trump. He has more members of that Supreme Court appointed than any other president. Yeah, but he still got Roberts in his way. Okay, move on. It was 7 to2, dude. Yeah, this vote. So, it's not just Roberts. What's happening over there? Nothing. Waiting for the next question. All right. Um, well, we've gotten heated up. My dad has called me a communist. It's time now to simmer down. Even though he is the communist. Okay, this is my simmer down question. What is something Let's start with dad. Maybe this will lighten your mood. What is something that you've always wanted to try but you have never gotten a chance to? Can't think of a thing. Cool. Mom, how about you? Oh man, I don't know. I'm still trying everything. You have to try something new every day. Um, maybe do some more things with my horse, more world shows, do a freestyle with my horse. But you've done these things. I'm talking about I've never done a freestyle with him. I would like But you've ridden the horse. I'm talking about like is there a place you want to visit? We still might make Alaska. I've always wanted to do Alaska. Uhhuh. As soon as Why haven't you done it yet? physically he can't right now. As soon as he gets stronger, we will. All right. And dad, you're good. You've done everything that you want to do in this life. Yeah. All right. Cool. For me, what about you, Chad? The answer is probably I mean, of course, I would love to, but that is a little prohibitive financially. I would like to skydive, but I don't know if I'm ever going to do it now. I feel like the older I get, the further away from the possibility of that I become because you're too scared. Um, yeah. And like, you know, ACL replacement, all this [ __ ] There's some like physical things that I'm like, I could see myself skydiving and tearing my ACL again or something like that. And just like it's not worth it, I don't think. But that's something I regret not doing when I was younger. But sure, going into space or anything like that would be cool as hell. I would like to see. I can think of one thing, too. Yeah. I I should have been because I love animals. I should have been a veterinarian. Probably small animal vet. So that's one thing you'd like to try is being a veterinarian. Yeah. And if I would start now then like four years later maybe then I could I'd be 74 75. Yes. This is my first year as a veterinarian. I'm 75 years old. Have a lot of experience. That's my first year. My Hey, it's never too late. Never too late to start. Dad, too late. Would you Would you support mom's veterinary practice? Sure. He tried to tell me about six years ago to do it. I said I'm too old then. Now I'm really too old. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. I also wouldn't mind going to like Tokyo probably. Like that would be pretty fun. Go where? Tokyo, Japan. Oh, dad's been there. Tell them about you like it. No, it's a [ __ ] hole. Okay. All right. Let's move on to our next topic. Jesus Christ. This is not Our next topic is The American. This week, reports emerged about a proposed reality TV show titled The American, in which immigrants would compete in challenges across the United States for a chance at expedited citizenship. The concept was pitched by Canadian-born producer Rob Warsoft, known for his work on reality shows like Duck Dynasty and The Biggest Loser. According to the proposal, 12 prevetted immigrant contestants would arrive at Ellis Island aboard the citizenship and then travel across the country on a train named the American. In each state, they'd participate in region specific challenges like gold mining in California or assembling a Ford Model T in Detroit, and the winner would be sworn in as a US citizen on Capitol Hill. Eliminated contestants would receive consolation prizes like airline miles and gift cards. Initial report suggested that the Department of Homeland Security uh Chief Christy Gnome supported the project. Dad, should people be able to win American citizenship on a reality show? No. Why not? It doesn't do any good. You're not proving anything. What? Who's Just because you win a reality TV show doesn't prove anything, right? You have to be the host of one like Trump. No, Trump's a citizen. Okay. Mom, do you think people should be able to win American citizenship on a reality show? Probably not, but it would be good entertainment. Some of those things you were saying I would like to do myself. Yeah. Would you do you would you watch this show? Yeah, I think I would entertain. Dad, would you? No. You would boycott. He would watch it. Okay. Do you think Trump would appear on this show, even maybe host it? No. He is president now. Stop it. No. But he makes memes and stuff. He He still is out there in the public eye. Obviously, I think he would. Here's If I may, I do another podcast called Game of Roses where we talk about reality TV. I break it down like a sport. These are my thoughts on this idea of a reality show. I actually don't inherently think the idea is bad. I know people are outraged by it and it trivializes the immigration process, blah blah blah. This is how I would make this show. The host of the show has to be an immigrant who has achieved American citizenship. I think that helps a lot. The people on the show, I think at the end, the twist is not only do they all get American citizenship, they all get a million dollars to start their lives in America. I think if you did something like that, it may not be terrible, but to have them competing in what people would perceive as a Hunger Gamesesque kind of game of attrition to get citizenship, I think is uh not going to fly. I don't think that's going to go over very well. You should try to get a job on that. No, thank you. I bet they would hire you. Set it up. Let me know where I got to be and when I got to be there. Let's move on. The downgrade. This week, Moody's Investor Service downgraded the United States credit rating from AAA to AA1, marking the first time since 1917 that the United States no longer holds a perfect credit score from all major rating agencies. This move follows earlier downgrades by standard and pores in 2011 and Fitch ratings in 2023, making Moody's the last of the big three to lower the US rating. Moody's cited poor financial policy, stock volatility, and rising price of goods, among other factors, as their primary reasons for the downgrade. In response, the Trump administration criticized the decision with officials arguing that the assessment was politically motivated and failed to account for the administration's efforts to address fiscal issues. Uh, Dad, what do you think when other countries see our credit get downgraded? What do you think they think? It doesn't matter what they think, but what do you think other countries how what do you think their reaction is when they see this? Well, what they're what they're looking at now is they know China's about to go tits up and they own most of our bonds. So, they're going to sell bonds which are going to make interest rates go up and inflation go up. And you think that's good? Yeah. You want inflation? It's only It's only going to last a very short period of time. Okay. Mom, what do you think other countries think when they see this happening? I have no idea. I really don't. The dollar is kind of like at least for many decades the most stable form of currency in the world. It's the the form of currency against which all other currencies are measured. It's how basically economics are done globally. Right? So when America's credit rating gets downgraded, I think people start to question well what about the dollar? If if our entire global economy is in one way or another linked to or based on the value of that dollar and America's credit rating is getting downgraded, you don't think that scares other countries? No. No. Who's scaring? And who made this all up? You pick a country that it's scaring and I'll tell you why it's not. Who made this up? Who said this? Hang on. I'm getting two different questions here. Who made what up? Mom, who made this up? Who said this? Mom, you can't name me a [ __ ] country. Canada, Mexico, China, Russia, and Mexico. Those aren't countries. What? They're states. Canada and Mexico. Huh? What? What are you? They're not countries. What do you mean? They're not countries. He thinks Canada is a state under United States. They're already done. But you know that's not true. will be next. You know that's not true. Well, I do do not know that's true right now. You think Canada is a state? It's going to be within the next two years. I've already told you that. Okay. It already is. It already is. They're just too [ __ ] stupid to know to know it. Okay. Who's they? Canadians. Every person in that country is [ __ ] stupid. And why do you think that? Please. Because of the way they run their country. They've lived off the US $200 billion a year for the last 50 years. They haven't paid their own way once, right? They're dead beat cockroaches. Oh my god. Really, Bob? Yes. Okay. Do you think, Dad, that the American economy is stronger now than it was under Biden? Oh, hell yes. But during Biden's presidency, our credit rating was not downgraded. That doesn't matter. You're talking about You're talking about believing Moody's and people like that [ __ ] Those goddamn guys couldn't rape my ass. Okay. Mom, do you feel that the American economy is stronger now or under Biden? Uh, 100%. Trump just brought in how many trillion of of deals and and developments for our country? Trillions, Chad. Yes. Okay, let's move on to topic number six. Trump versus Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen. This week, Trump issued a series of derogatory posts targeting Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen. May 16th, Trump went after Swift, writing, quote, "Has anyone noticed that since I said I hate Taylor Swift, she's no longer hot?" In the same series of posts, Trump lashed out at Springsteen, who had recently criticized Trump's administration during a concert in Manchester, England, calling it corrupt, incompetent, and treasonous. And now I want to read the entire Springsteen Post. This is the president of the United States. Listen to this. Going on. You're you're reading Trump's or you're reading what Trump's said. I'm reading Trump's. Do you have what said too? I just told you he called his uh administration incompetent, treasonous, and corrupt. Now, in response to this, this is what Donald Trump does. This is the president of the United States. A musician says, "You're corrupt. You're treasonous." This is what Trump says. I see that highly overrated Bruce Springsteen goes to a foreign country to speak badly about the president of the United States. Never liked him, never liked his music or his radical left politics. And importantly, he's not a talented guy. Just a pushy, obnoxious jerk who fervently supported crooked Joe Biden, a mentally incompetent fool, our worst ever president who came close to destroying our country. If I wasn't elected, it would have been gone by now. Sleepy Joe didn't have a clue as to what he was doing, but Springsteen is dumb as a rock and couldn't see what was going on. Or could he, which is even worse, this dried out prune of a rocker, his skin is all atrophied, ought to keep his mouth shut until he gets back into the country. That's just standard fair. Then we'll see how it all goes for him. So, this is a maniac's post that he's just firing off. Um, because Bruce Springsteen said, "You're corrupt." Bruce Springsteen's a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] He said terrible things. You know what? He shouldn't live in the United States. He ought to get his ass out of here. Take his daughter who jumps and rides horses. Get out of here. Hang on. You think he shouldn't be allowed to live in the United States because he expressed dissent? because he doesn't love our country and talks bad about it all the time. And why did he talk bad about Donald Trump to the UK to talk like that? Hang on. Hang on. Dad, mom, how many times have you spoken badly of Barack Obama, Joe Biden? Does that mean you have to leave the country? They're not. They're not running the country, are they? They're communists. They were when you guys were shit-talking them constantly. Yeah. And they're communists. So, you don't see that there's like a double standard here. You say Bruce Springsteen says something bad about Trump. No. Bruce Okay, hang on. Bruce Springsteen. Hang on. Bruce Springsteen says something bad about Donald Trump. You say he should leave the country forever. Yes. If he doesn't say something he's been bad, United States for Hang on. Hang on. But when you say something bad about Obama or Biden when they're in office, right, you're just being good Americans, right? That's exactly right. Because we do love our country. You're finally catching on. We do love our country. We want to stay in our country and we want it better. If you weren't a communist, you'd have got it sooner. Please don't call him a communist. Well, it's what he is. Don't. It's not though. I'm not a communist. I don't even understand how you draw that conclusion. I don't either. Give me the some examples of things that I do that you believe are communist. And don't yell. Tell him what you're doing right now. What? A podcast is communist. No. How you swing everything that way? What way? I at the beginning of this episode, I agreed with Donald Trump. You're trying You're trying to make this into a communist podcast. How? Every damn thing comes out of your mouth. But you're also on this podcast and so you are proTrump. How can I make it a communist podcast if you're on it? because you lean it the way you want it to go. But I'm not leaning anything the way that's that's why he calls you a communist because he thinks you lean this podcast your way and not ours. Once again, I will. All right. I I'm tired of going back and forth on that issue. No, that's not we're talking about this. Call it a done deal. No. the beginning of this podcast, I read a tweet by Donald Trump and I said I agree with it 100%. Yes. So, how is that not supporting your view? It It was It was You're good. You're good. Yeah. We ain't arguing no more. You going to knock off the microphone and then Chad's going to yell. I'm going to yell. I'm going to yell. All right. Mom, do you think a president should be attacking musicians? Should be attacking what? Musicians. Stranger Stein. I mean, it's his opinion, I guess. I think it is a little crazy. He does it like out in the open and saying those tweets on X, but his opinion. Yeah. Dad, do you think he should be attacking musicians? Yeah, especially this one. Okay. Dad doesn't like him either. Springsteen's a total pile of [ __ ] Oh my god. Why do you say that? Cuz he's a total pile of [ __ ] Why though? What? What gives you that conclusion? His entire life. His entire He's made music that millions and millions of people love. Millions and millions of people can have it. I always thought that song Born in the USA was patriotic. It's not. Is it? I don't think it is. I don't know. You tell me. It can be if you think it is. I thought it was. I don't think it is. I think he hates America. I think he does, too. He's an American hater. We don't like people who hate America. Do you think that anybody can love America and and disagree with Donald Trump? No. Mom, I know. Because he's our president. But you guys disagreed with Barack Obama and Joe Biden when they were presidents. But they're different. He still loved America, right? That's right. That's exactly right. They are communists. We are Americans. Therefore, we disagree with everything they did and said they didn't like America because they're communists right now. Can you at all? Do you have the ability to put yourself I have the ability to do whatever I want to do. Okay. Okay. Do you have this ability? Do you have this ability? Can you put I don't have the ability to shut your little pie hole. And that's that's the first sign that communism is coming. Can you put yourself in the position of another person who sees the world differently than you? No. And you don't want to. And I don't want to. Because why is that? You fear. I guess my vision of the world is the best vision for this world. Okay. Right. But your vision for this world is total [ __ ] That's fine. Even let's I'll say it's true. Your vision for the world is the best vision for the world. But you acknowledge there are other visions for the world, right? Yeah. And they're wrong and they got to be snuffed out. Okay. Now, now that's it. Do you want to understand those other visions? Even if they're wrong, don't you want to understand ass? What's that? I No, I don't want to understand them. I want them to be wiped out. And you're talking about genocide. Whatever it takes. Okay. Um, let me ask you this about these tweets. Mom, does it at all make you think Donald Trump has thin skin that a musician can say something in a concert? He gets so mad that he fires off a crazy tweet at whatever hour it was. That wasn't crazy. He called him. Let me read this again. You don't think this is crazy? This dried out prune of a rocker. His skin is all atrophied. Ought to keep his mouth shut. 100% of everything he said about Springsteen is true. Do you think Donald Trump is a dried out old prune? No. Do you think he has good skin? No. He doesn't. You're right. So, he's insulting Bruce Springsteen for something he himself suffers from. No. I said no the first time. But he he Let me ask you this. Insult him. He probably insult. He throw in too many questions too fast. He insulted Taylor Swift, but they I Oh my god. So, okay. Sorry, Mom. Go ahead. He insulted both of them, Bruce. And he insulted Taylor Swift several times, but they insult him, too. So, yeah. Where's dad going? Where do you think he's not left? He's going to the bathroom. All right. Um, Mom, do you think Donald Trump is handsome? No, not really. You think he's ugly? No, he's just a person. I don't look at him like that. No, but he looks at everybody like that. Well, who does? You got to stop touching that mic. I'm afraid he's going to fall. Who? Who looks at him that way? No, he looks at other people's physical appearance and insults it con insults physical appearances constantly. Who does? Donald Trump. He just called Bruce Springsteen a shriveled old prune and said he had bad skin. Okay, so that's his opinion of him, I guess. All right. Um, that wraps up the show. We got nothing else. Been a doozy. It has indeed. I I don't understand what dad is doing. I mean, I know he's taking his [ __ ] right now, but I don't understand his um he's kind of devolved into this attitude of just being like, "Ah, you're stupid. I ain't saying anything else." And it's like, if he doesn't want to do this anymore, he does not have to. I know. I know. That's about where we're at, I'm afraid. What? If you don't want to do this podcast anymore because all you do is argue and yell at everybody. No, it's not. He doesn't even argue. I don't argue and yell. I have to I have to hold the microphone for a minute. I don't care if you argue and yell. Arguing and yelling is fine. That's what this is about to some degree. It's yeping about. I'm yeping about. You're not arguing. You just now have gotten to this point where we're talking about something and if you can't issue a point that you think is valid, you just kind of declare the conversation over and think you're valid. What? 100% of my points are valid. But so are Chad's and so are mine and so are Haley's. Oh, and you don't let us say anything and talk anymore. [ __ ] So you do it. You end the conversation. You're about to do it right now. I want to see him my way. You're about to do it right now. I saw you take a little deep breath and roll your eyes back in your little head. The thing we're trying to do here is have conversations about these different topics. Okay, fine. Let's wrap this up. I really I rest my case, your honor. I really really I want to do a podcast where it's not politics and see if he does it better. See if he does the podcast better. Do you think Do you think it's just politics? Would you do this if Chad said, "Let's talk about something other than politics?" Probably. Probably. What? I'd do it better. He'd do it better. said, "Well, what? Dad, what do you want to talk about? What are some things you'd like to talk about that are not political?" There anything I want to talk about? You all figured it out. Just make it something not a politics. Maybe we can figure that out. But I'm asking you. I'm interested in what I'm out of breath. But what would be something that you want to talk about that you have an interest in? I don't have I That's mom's deal where she wants to do something other than politics. So figure out what it is and I'll be in. But I'm asking you on a personal level. I don't have anything. I've told you that you have no interests in life. I want to go see my horse. Okay, maybe that's what we'll talk about next week is seeing of the horses. Um, that is the end of this program. Thank you very much for joining us. Haley, wherever you are, I love you. I hope safe travels are in your future. Mom, I love you. Dad, despite the fact that you I don't think you believe I'm a communist, but you call me that almost every episode. I do love you. I love everybody. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. I love you, Bob. All right. I can't believe your sister is off wasting money in Boston. What do you mean wasting money? Who you think's paying for that whole trip? hurt. What do you mean? Don't. It's all right. Not No. What do you mean wasting money? What? Hang on a minute. What's the waste? Not on the podcast. Okay. Tell him that. Later. All right. See you next week. Bye.