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Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. Today it's just me and my mom. Happy Thanksgiving. >> Happy Thanksgiving, Chad. Just you and me. >> We did it. What are you What are you doing for Thanksgiving? >> I have to go later to Shiny Hiny. And then I ordered us a turkey breast. So, I'll go pick that up. I started cooking early this morning some dressing that is like, let's see, went to third generation dressing in our family. It has like, you know, it's a lot of carbs. Bob doesn't eat it, but I will. >> And he immediately kind of came out of the bedroom. He said, "What is that smell? Air the house out. That's terrible. It's making me want to throw up." Mhm. My my dressing recipe was making him throw up. So, I had to air the house out early this morning. >> Well, I'm glad you got that taken care of. Today, we are going to be talking about >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What are you eating? Uh, we have no plans. >> No turkey, no vegan, no nothing. >> No, not that I'm aware of. >> Okay. >> But we'll be there in a couple of weeks. We will be there in Oklahoma in a couple of weeks with you. And we are going to be doing an episode >> uh all of us together in the same room at your house. That should be interesting. [laughter] >> And [clears throat] then I can have turkey day then too. There. Now I can see myself. >> Double it up. Um, there was something else. Oh, and Haley is baking crazy at the bakery. That's why she's not on today. 700 pies, she said. >> That's what they're doing. >> Yeah. >> Well, today we're going to do a short episode, but we are going to be talking about Trump attacking these uh senators and Congress people for telling the troops, you do not have to follow unlawful orders. In fact, you should not because that's a crime and you can be punished. Mom, we spoke in the Sunday episode about this a little bit. You believe people should do whatever they're told. So did dad, even if that means murdering American civilians. So, you have sent me a couple of clips to this end. Which ones would you I'll play them all. We have time. And I have one that's about seven minutes long. We can play that as well. >> Wow. >> You also sent me an interesting conspiracy theory, which I agree is very strange. some some uh details about the Charlie Kirk shooting that match up with a movie called Snake Eyes from 1998. >> Yeah. >> What clip would you like me to start first with? >> I forgot which ones I sent you. Really? >> Okay, let's start with this one. This was my favorite one you sent me. This is a guy who paints paintings of Donald Trump talking about what what he believes should be done to the legislators, the lawmakers who came out and made that video. Here we go. >> He's very upset and mad. very upset. >> Could this actually be a proof to the stimulation theory? They told you the Charlie Kirk tragedy >> cause a [laughter] >> stimulation theory. >> We don't have enough [ __ ] scumbags that want to annihilate this country. Now we have these [ __ ] ungrateful, jealous, envious liberal douchebags like Senator Mark Kelly [snorts] telling active duty personnel, our military to not follow orders from the commanderin-chief. Think about what I'm saying here. Now, as you know, and I admit it every [ __ ] minute of every day, I never had the balls to serve in the military. So for the last 40 years, I've been celebrating, promoting, defending, raising money for, helping the best way I can those who did the flag, patriotism, veterans, all of it. So I do a little bit of service. So I deserve a little bit of credit as a civilian doing some good service for this country. So, I believe not only that gives me the right, but also as an American [ __ ] citizen the right to call out this [ __ ] douchebag, Mark Kelly. Listen to me. I don't give a [ __ ] you. Thank you for your service in the Navy and thank you for going into space as an astronaut. But with that said, after what you said for these military active duty to not follow the commander-in- treat, you are a [ __ ] scumbag. And I will tell you to your face, I don't give a [ __ ] if you go to Mars back, [ __ ] a Martian, come back with the cure for cancer. You're a [ __ ] dangerous douchebag. And you should be corrected the way this country was meant to correct [ __ ] traitors. There, I [ __ ] said it. [ __ ] off. >> Okay. >> Is that guy a news anchor on Newsmax? >> That's funny, Chad. No, he did. He's a little wild out there. He's a little bit over the top. No filter. We see that. We We live with that every day. No filter. But what he's saying, I totally agree with, but they they need to be held accountable. Now, >> hang on, though. Hang on. You're saying that you agree that anyone in the military should follow whatever order they're given? >> Okay. They have never been given an illegal order by our president. >> That's not true. Right now, they are be being given orders to vaporize these boats in the Caribbean just to just kill whoever's on them. >> Venezuela is say, "Hang on. Venezuela >> Venezuela is saying there are civilians on some of those boats." >> That's what Venezuela is saying because they don't want the boats with fentinol that is coming into our country blown up. Those boats have fentinyl. They have bad drugs on it. And you think the >> And that is what Trump ran on. >> But you think the government >> You think the Venezuelan government >> wants drugs brought into the United States? >> Yes, I do. I think they're being filtered. >> They're be they're because they're making money off of it for starters. >> Okay. >> It's coming from China into Venezuela and up here into the United States to kill our people. Trump ran on this, Chad, that he would stop this stuff and that's what he's doing. And now all I understand yipping. >> We're not yipping. Do you think he has to follow the law or not? >> I think he has to stop the drugs coming into our country. >> Okay. You're not answering my question. Do you think >> who is the president in charge of our country? >> Yeah. And if he feels our country is in danger or our citizens, he needs to stop it by blowing up the ships. I'm >> by breaking the law. >> That's not breaking the law. >> All right. >> We're never going to see eye to eye on that. It might be. We don't know. >> We don't know who's on those boats. We don't know what the intel is. They are being less than transparent. You would agree at the very least on that. >> Here's the part. No, they're blowing up ships with drugs on it. Here's what I don't know. They're not they're not showing us any of the intelligence to back up that claim. Anyone could be on those boats. >> They're saying it's drugs and drug people. >> I agree. They are showing no proof of that to anyone, including Congress. >> Well, the seven that said that, that went and made their little commercial, they're not showing any proof either of what they were stating. >> What illegal orders has our president given? No, >> they didn't say he has. >> They said if that happens, you are obligated to not follow the order. >> Oh, right. So, they didn't state it to be boldfaced, but they are insinuating it. >> Everyone knew that. >> Of course, it looks increasingly >> because they're all in trouble and they need to be held accountable. >> I'm tired of liberals and Democrats getting away with this stuff and then nothing's ever done. this time something's going to be done. >> You just can't go out and make a clip like that and think >> nothing nothing's going to be done. We we've already seen what's happening with Trump's trying to get Comey and James in trouble. Those lawsuits just got thrown out. >> Not even James will he's going to come at her again or they will. The first one was by what? A technicality or whatever. >> No, the first one was because the woman that he put in charge, I forget her name. Lindsay Halligan maybe >> uh I could be wrong on that. >> She didn't do what lawyers must do in these situations. And now I believe the statute of limitations has expired on James Comey. So even that was kind of a a stupidity kind of thing. Trump surrounds himself with people who are inept in every position and then [ __ ] like this happens. >> Um let me ask you this question with regard to soldiers following orders. >> Do you believe the Nazi soldiers were all correct in following Hitler's orders? Yes, that was the guy that that they believed in and and that led them. But I don't believe in what they did was right. >> Okay. But at any time, do you understand like if Hitler rises to power and he says, "We're doing this. We're going to do the Holocaust. We're going to do Blitzkriegs. We're going to do all the waring things we're going to do." If the members of that army say this is illegal, we're not doing this. None of it ever happens. So by following Hang on. So by following Hitler's orders, the Holocaust occurs. If those Nazi soldiers had said, "We are not doing this. This is murder. This is illegal. There is no Holocaust." You understand that, right? And you're saying that you agree with them following the orders. >> I also understand in that country if they would say, "I'm not going to follow these orders, they would be boom, dead, gone." >> Not Not if all of them did it. >> Yes, they would. Chad, >> who would kill them >> within the military? >> If the military says we're not doing that, who would kill the military? >> Then why have a military? >> Oh my [ __ ] god. To protect you. To protect your country from foreign threats >> here. But we're having people come out in commercials and say, "Don't follow our president. You don't have to do anything." >> They're not saying that. They're not saying that. Yes, they are Chad. >> It's article 92 that yes they are. >> They are not. There is a document >> by an indirect way that they stated that commercial. Yes, they are. >> But >> I think that they >> this is part of military law literally article 92 of whatever it is the USMJ the United States military code of whatever. >> I I don't have this document. I should have [ __ ] brought it. But I read this last night in preparation for this. It says you must follow lawful orders. >> Meaning you do not follow unlawful orders. And so >> not given anything, >> right? I'm not saying he has. I'm saying >> that's coming >> or at least it seems to be. He's testing the ground. There's some kind of massive like echo coming through on your side. By the way, >> I have nothing on. >> Okay. Um he's issuing these orders to vaporize these boats out of Venezuela. We don't know if there are civilians on those boats. They're not giving us any intelligence. They're not showing us any proof that the people they're killing are indeed drug dealers. >> Why would >> Why would you think President Trump would just go and leash on boats where there was no drugs? Why would you even >> That's what he gets off on. He has already asked if he can shoot protesters in the knees. He has already deployed United States military forces in various cities around the country. You're seeing what ICE is doing. Just kidnapping people, beating the [ __ ] out of them, spraying babies with mace. So yeah, and Trump does nothing. There's no repercussion against any of these uh ICE soldiers doing this [ __ ] So >> I think all these people are traitors. They should have never done that in a public commercial like that. If they really felt that way, there are other means to go about it within the people that they serve within the our government itself. Not on a platform like that that they're traitors. That's >> why Trump does that all the time. That's all he does is use a public platform to [ __ ] talk people to say per prosecute these people to talk about I'm making this deal. I'm doing whatever. Trump says all of his [ __ ] on public. >> Any other country they would be shot. They would be shot. >> That's not true. >> This country I hope they go to prison. Okay. Well, I'm going to play you now a clip of Adam Kinzinger. He's a former Republican congressman talking about all of this. Are you ready? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, I wasn't initially planning to do a video about this. Um because I just I was like I don't want to get hysterical about everything Donald Trump says and everything that comes out of you know because eventually it just ends up becoming like numb but this one's important as I thought about it more and more. First off still sorry my voice is struggling. the threat today that the Department of War, the Department of Defense tweeted out that they were going to go after Mark Kelly or they're investigating Kelly uh for his egregious acts, >> which what they're doing is they're doing it sounds like, which is what I thought. >> It sounds initially like there's something else they're looking at like, you know, conduct unbecoming or something like that. In reality, they're simply going after Mark Kelly because he was part of this, you know, the six members of the House and Senate that told members of the military what we get told on day one of officer training, day one, which is do not follow unlawful or illegal orders. Now, I've expressed to you that the only concern I have in that is like >> Okay. So, what do you think of that, Mom? >> I didn't know that. I I mean, that does that. Why aren't people bringing that up? >> You are watching a man bringing it up. >> Mhm. >> This is a guy who was a congressman for many years, Republican congressman, also in the Air Force. He's telling you on day one of officer training, you are told by your superiors, do not follow unlawful orders. >> That seems very odd to me that they would say that. [laughter] >> It's in article 92 of the document they >> of command. It's follow the chain of command. Follow what the chain of command tells you to do, isn't it? >> You're you're listening to a guy. >> No, but you cannot break the law. >> Okay. Do you have my other clip though? The other one where the man >> Yes. And we can play it after you watch this. >> I Yeah, I've never heard that. >> Never heard that. I've never heard any military person say that. >> Well, you're hearing it now. What do you mean? Mark Kelly said it. >> Well, I think he's a traitor. So, >> okay. So, you just label anybody a traitor who's telling you the truth? >> No. Keep going. Let's I want to hear what it says. >> [snorts] >> We don't want to put this unnecessary pressure on every enlisted person in the military. Again, their red line is, you know, don't shoot Americans, that kind of stuff. But everything those members of the House and Senate said is again what we are instructed day one in military officer school. And now the Department of Defense has said they are going to consider recalling retired I forget what rank he was captain recalling Mark Kelly to active duty and forcing him to stand trial under the UCMJ. >> Good. >> This is chilling. So first off, why is it that they can recall Mark Kelly? because he is a retired member of the military. So what is that saying? He has done more for his country in serving the military than Donald Trump has done. And now they're >> Do you agree with that? >> Yes. But then he should know not to say that in public to not follow the orders. >> This guy's also saying it. Adam Kinzinger. >> Hello. Yeah. >> And now they're going to use that in theory loophole kind of to get political retribution. So there's so many things here. Number one, mixing the military with politics. Clearly, this is a political move. Secondly, striking fear into the heart of retired officers. That's what they're trying to do. the same officers that go on television and, you know, tell the truth about Donald Trump, they're trying to strike the fear of God in them. And then, of course, you know, trying to shut Mark Kelly up. This is a administration that is so consumed with retribution, so consumed with this childish anger that they are putting priorities like recalling a guy to active duty because you're mad at him over actually improving the United States military. >> What do you think of that? >> None of what he is saying makes sense to me. I mean it what he's saying. I hear it, but I don't believe any of that what he's saying. >> Why? >> I want you to show my clip. That's what I believe. >> I I know you're just sitting there waiting for your clip, but you're not >> So, you're just sitting there listening to this guy being like, "When's he going to play my clip? When's he going to play my clip?" Listen to my clip. Listen to what this guy is saying. >> I'm listening. >> This is a Republican. What he doesn't understand too is when he is saying don't follow the illegal orders then people below in the chain could get killed because of it because he he hasn't >> he literally he literally acknowledged that. He said he doesn't want to put any more pressure on enlisted military members to have to like make the decision is this legal or not. So he literally acknowledged exactly what you're saying he did not. Mhm. >> Okay. You have this tendency to just completely make [ __ ] up and ignore exactly what I'm showing you and then say what I'm showing you means the opposite of what it actually means. >> It It kind of does. >> No, it what how is that? >> My next clip that you will show makes 100% >> opposite account kind of. >> We still have half of this clip left. But I want you to watch it all. >> Okay, >> this is disgusting. In countries with authoritarians, one of the last things they do before they have complete control is arrest political opponents. Now, I'm not going to sit here and say that that means we're now, you know, a hopeless dictatorship. We're not. Obviously, with Comey and Leticia James cases being thrown out today, the court still is a solid backs stop. But to use the military threat is a bridge way too far. I cannot wait until the next president of the United States, whoever it is, starts holding trials for these people that have violated the Constitution and that have sought to destroy this. So to Mark Kelly, if you see this, let me be very clear because I know you know this. The vast majority of Americans stand behind you. The vast majority of Americans are disgusted by this. And the [clears throat] stronger you fight back, the more of a hero you will be because they're obviously not going to call you back to active duty. And obviously they're they're not going to convict you of anything. So, as you well know, fight hard, fight strong, fight fast, and fight loudly. We have got to crush these people at the ballot box, in the courts, everywhere because this kind of thing has no place in a free country. >> I'm going to pause it there. We can end it there. That's basically the the long and short of it. So, you disagree with everything he said and you believe he's lying? >> I don't believe he's lying if that's his belief. I believe in >> It's not his belief. It's his it's his personal experience as an officer in the Air Force. On day one, they tell you do not follow unlawful orders just as Mark Kelly did, just as everybody in that video did. So, the thing that US military service members uh officers are being told literally in their schools when they become officers in the military, that's all the people said in this video. The exact same thing. Everyone is actually told by the military when they're in the military. So what is the crime here? What's the treason? What's the what makes Mark Kelly a traitor? >> You are going against the president of our United States. >> Okay. Well, what the crime is? >> Fine. So every instructor in every military uh officer training course is also doing that. Should they all also be hung? >> I didn't say hung repercussions. >> Okay, fine. Whatever. Arrest. So, you think everybody in the military who's telling uh officers in the officer schools, don't follow unlawful orders, you think all of them should go to jail as well? >> No. What I'm trying to say is everything he said is nothing. I believe I don't believe in >> Do you Okay. Do you believe that military officers are told on day one to not follow unlawful orders? >> I don't know. I'm not >> He just told you. He went through that. The reason I don't all the rest of the stuff that he said I don't believe. So I don't know if I believe that first statement. I really don't. I'll have to look. >> You think that's a lie? >> You want me to Google it? >> Never heard of unlawful orders is when the commercial came up. Then I researched and they're not even stating what the unlawful order is because Trump has given none. You you aren't understand Chad that they're talking about >> so far there isn't one but they can see some [ __ ] happening >> then why would they do a commercial or whatever they did about it >> because they are part of Congress and Senate and they all talk to each other and [ __ ] starts floating around. Oh god Trump is asking Pete Hegathth if he can use US military and he already said he wants to use US mil US cities as training ground for the military. So what does that mean? >> That has not happened. That has not happened. >> But he said it, which means he can give that order. Go into [ __ ] LA. Use it as your training ground. What does that mean for citizens of these cities? Are we just props? Are we Oh, oops. You got shot in the head. It was part of a military training exercise. >> You're insane, Chad. You're crazy. >> He said it. How am I crazy? >> Crazy. >> How is that crazy? Trump literally said that. >> You're talking crazy liberal stuff. Trump said that. >> Never heard that one. >> You We did a whole [ __ ] episode about him saying he wanted to use US cities as training grounds. >> Yes, I do remember that. But to shoot people in the head and with no recourse or whatever. What the hell are you talking about? >> That's already happened. You saw that priest get shot in the head by ICE. No recourse. That's already happened. So what are you talking about? I'm talking about show my clip and to show people how I feel. >> That's what I would like to see next. That man made no sense to me. >> Okay. >> Hey everybody, this is Buzz Patterson. I'm a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, retired Air Force pilot, combat veteran, and uh at one time I was the military aid to President Bill Clinton and carried the nuclear football and actually lived in the White House. So I've been around. I was actually during my military service deployed to 70 countries and fought in three wars. So I feel like I've got um a a dog in this hunt. I am very appalled at what the Sedition 6 has done with their video. I think it's a violation of their oath of office and especially in the case of Senator Mark Kelly. I believe it's a a violation of the UCMJ and I hope that President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegth hold them accountable. They are violating and they are politically using their positions to undercut the command of President Donald J. Trump and they're circumventing the chain of command. Congress and members of Senate are not in the chain of command. President Trump is however is our commander-in-chief. So I fully support uh going forward uh with with whatever prosecutions are are warranted and legitimate and I think they are uh on these on these uh individuals. They use their positions military and and in the intelligence community to u to expose I think and put at risk those of us who serve in uniform. I think that what's going to happen is because they violated the the military chain of command people are going to die. They undercut the underpinnings of the military which is good order and faith and trust in their leadership and uh and in my estimation what they did was treasonous and seditionist and I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent. Again my name is Buzz Patterson. I served in combat. I've served for 20 years and uh I am outraged by what has happened by the Democrats and I fear for what's going to happen to our young soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines if they choose to violate what is a legal order uh which will ruin their lives and ruin their careers. Thank God guys. God bless. See you. >> Right. You cannot He's correct in that end thing. If you are given a lawful order, you must follow it. That's the military, >> right? >> That's not what Mark Kelly and the the other lawmakers said. They said if you are given an unlawful order, an illegal order, for example, shoot that protester, you have to say no. >> They're insinuating he's already given them and he's given none. >> He has attempted to. He has asked about them. >> I agree with everything Buzz just said. >> I know you do. what I'm trying to explain to you. Well, I guess let's get to the the base question here is, do you think Donald Trump should be able to use the US military to kill US citizens? I think you said yes, right? >> No. Why would he want to kill US citizens? No. >> Because he's a [ __ ] dictator piece of [ __ ] He has already asked if he can shoot protesters. He has already asked that of his cabinet. >> He >> Mom, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Donald Trump in his first term asked his cabinet, "Can I shoot and kill protesters?" He asked that where he said that [sighs] >> he is our president. He is trying to make our country great again. He has not given anything unlawful, any order unlawful. >> This is May 9th. May 9th, 2022. Uh, this article came out. >> Former defense secretary Mark T. Esper said President Donald Trump asked about shooting protesters amid the unrest that took place after the joy George Floyd murder in 2020. Uh, and he said no to him. So he says Donald Trump asked him, "Can we just shoot these protesters?" And he said, "No, we cannot do that. Uh, Mr. President, that's illegal. That would be an unlawful order." And ha have any protesters been shot? And >> the president of the United States >> asked his secretary of defense if he can murder US citizens with the military >> and it said no. So nothing has been done. >> Okay. >> Has not happened. >> Right. He said no because he wouldn't follow an unlawful order. That's the entire issue at hand here. So you're saying Trump has never given an unlawful order. He's [ __ ] tried >> and the system >> just listen to me for a minute. Listen. >> He has tried to do it. That is why there is precedent for Mark Kelly and these other lawmakers to say if you're given the order, don't follow it. >> He has tried. >> They are trying to not listen to our president is what they're doing. >> Jesus, they don't like our will not hear what I'm saying. >> They need to be held accountable. Democrats do this all the time with nothing ever done about it. They need to go to prison. They need to go to jail for a while. >> For what? >> On a public platform undermining our government and being a traitor. That's what for >> undermining our government is not a crime. >> Okay. Being a traitor is they're traitors. >> In what way? >> I've told you we're just button heads on this channel. >> He stated the law. That's it. No, he you can read each little line as it as they went down and said their little line. It was do not follow that law. Do not follow it. >> Do not follow an unlawful order. Correct. Do not break the law is what they're saying. >> In the United States, no. >> All right, let's just move on to this last clip. This is infuriating. Um >> Oh, happy Thanksgiving >> indeed. All right. So, this is the the clip that is about the Charlie Kirk assassination and this weird there's a bunch of similarities basically between the the Charlie Kirk assassination and this old movie Snake Eyes. Could this actually be [music] a proof to the stimulation theory? They told you the Charlie Kirk tragedy was a one-off. [music] Well, it wasn't. It's been played before, like literally frame for frame. Go back to 1998, a Nicholas [music] Cage movie called Snake Eyes. In that film, a political figure named Charles Kirkland, yeah, that's his actual name, gets shot in the neck by a sniper at a public event. Same wound, same setting, same [music] everything. Opening scene, there's a banner for the event. Date: September 10th, same day. The event itself, a boxing match headlined by a fighter called Tyler the Executioner. In real life, Tyler Robinson is accused of being the executioner. Coincidence? Come on. While all this is happening [music] on screen, Cage is talking about his lucky number and a giant seven flashes in the background. Elon Musk [music] just announced that all spacecraft launching in 2026 will carry the number 77 in [music] tribute to Charlie Kirk. Why 77? Nobody's giving answers. [music] And it gets weirder. Floating above the crowd in snake eyes is a massive allseeing eye on a blimp watching everything. [music] That's the name Snake Eyes. And what is 2025 the year of the snake? The tagline? Believe [music] everything except your eyes. Filmed in Trump's hotel, Atlantic City. How many coincidences [music] until it's not a coincidence? Same script, same symbols, same numbers. Simulation confirmed. That is creepy. Very creepy. >> Yeah, there's there's a lot of weird [ __ ] in there. I agree. The Charles Kirkland, the >> shot in the neck at a public event, the Tyler the executioner. >> I don't know if it was actually shot in in Trump's casino or not. Um, that may or may not be true. >> There's way too many way too many same things there. I don't like that. I I mean I I try to investigate. I'm an investigator. People that I know Oh, I do. People in my neighborhood that know me know me well. They say I'm a private eye. I should have been a private eye. Anyway, >> hang on. Hang on a minute. The majority of Snake Eyes was filmed on studio sets in the Montreal Forum at at in Montreal, Canada. The production spent two weeks on location in Atlantic City filming at the Trump Taj Mahal. So, two two weeks of the production was there. >> There there's just so much that has not been told to us, you know. Well, they told it right in the beginning. Within how many hours they had the shooter? We know that he was not the shooter. I don't believe. >> Um, there was >> even Trump's assassination. I mean, that was completely faked. >> Go back to Charlie, though. No blood. They >> Wait, let's let's keep let's keep on Trump. Do you think that the Trump assassination was real? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. It wasn't. I don't think at all. >> Which one? They tried to kill him twice. Which one you talking about? the one where he was quote shot in the ear, but now his ear is completely fine. We have that video of the the person ushering the photographers over to get the right angle. >> None of the Secret Service followed protocol that day. >> I do believe I would believe that one more than I would the Charlie Kirk shot in the neck one. >> But you know how like that assassin was just disappeared? Do you even know that assassin's name? >> No, we don't. >> We do. It's on the internet, but it's not talked about. It's not >> spoken about. We know nothing about the background of that assassin. >> And then you look at somebody like Luigi Manion and you know everything about him. >> Yeah. >> Because the Trump one, I believe, was staged. >> Okay. Well, what about Charlie Kirk? I mean, I don't lose sleep over thinking about it, but I do at night before I go to bed if I'm on the internet, I'll see different um theories like the microphone that that's what blew up. >> Yeah, that's what it looks like to me on all the videos I've seen, but I I agree. I haven't gone like so far down this rabbit hole. I'm not like a Candace Owens or anything, but this Snake Eyes thing is is weirder in a big way. I don't think it necessarily is like, oh, they were copying the movie Snake Eyes. Like, that makes no [ __ ] sense. But the similarities in them are it's almost like an echo of reality or something, you know, that like this story keeps getting retold in some way in whatever the [ __ ] this is. >> Here's the part I don't get. When Charlie Kirk, they said, was assassinated right then and there. You see him being carried off, I I didn't watch the initial when he got shot, but then I saw no blood when they drug him off. Uh then they cemented over the little area there where he was sitting. There's some clips that show some men like grabbing the microphone or grabbing something and putting in a pocket and leaving. >> They're saying there was an airplane parked 30 minutes away that took off or took off real quick. I mean when you said uh Patel said see you in Bahala then I've I've read have you seen some of this where they're saying Bahala is a um you know where they take people to um keep them there under government what do you call it when they're in security and government watch and they're still alive. So >> the only thing that I know about it is it's like a Viking heaven. And if you die, an honorable warrior's death, you get to go there and feast forever. >> There's a place uh called Bahala in um it's either Australia or some other country where they take the people that want to stay undercover. >> And he said, "I'll see you there." >> Interesting. >> So, is he still alive? >> I don't know. I There's too much weird [ __ ] around it for me to really believe anything. The snake eyes thing, I don't think proves if it was a conspiracy or not. It just to me is more like a uh almost like a Mandela effect kind of thing. You know, the Mandela effect >> coincidence on all of that though. That's so weird. But you know I mean it can be in a long enough timeline of human events you are going to see something like this happen where a big you know national or global event that has all these details and people already kind of think it's conspiratorial and then like oh [ __ ] there's a movie that has four things similar including things that are so specific like the name or the date you know that it's like that seems impossible to be merely coincidental because of the low statistical likelihood. But again, in a long enough timeline, you will see statistical clustering like this happening. All that said, I'm not I'm not convinced that is what's happening here. I don't know. >> I think no one knows what reality is. And >> this may be some kind of weird mirroring effect in our reality. I don't know. I literally >> Yeah, I even saw where it said that that was just a hologram, you know, and then they took him away or something. I don't know. >> All right. >> Time will tell, maybe. Um, I can't believe I'm bringing this up because if you're right on this, I'm going to have to eat crow. And I can't believe you didn't bring it up. Um, it was the turkey pardon and JD Vance was there with his wife. Now tell me how to say it so I don't ruin her name again. Is it >> OSHA? Did I say it right? >> You say however you like. Did I say >> Rio? >> Osha. >> Osha. >> To my knowledge, it's Usha, but I I could be wrong. >> Anyway, she was there with him. >> Happy. She did not look happy. >> She's not wearing her wedding ring. >> I'm going to have to eat crow. I I hope I don't have to eat crow, but she did not look happy at all. No. Yeah, >> I don't know. We'll see where that >> This is all planned. >> We'll see where that goes. I'm not I'm not eating the crow yet, but it didn't look good. >> If I wind up being right about that, that they're going to get divorced and he winds up with Erica Kirk, will you perhaps start to come down the path with me on some of these other things? >> No. >> Why? >> No. >> Why not? >> What other things? What other things? >> Everything we disagree with about like all of this [ __ ] like Trump is trying to take over the country. Trump, by the way, for what it's worth, happy Thanksgiving. I think he's about to die. >> Why? >> All these videos coming out of him stumbling around. He can barely walk now. There was a video that just came out this morning of him and Melania getting on Air Force One or Marine One. They were going somewhere from the White House to Mara Lago or whatever for Thanksgiving. That [ __ ] cannot stand on his own. As a a person who has been a human crutch to dad, she's human crutching him. He's stumbling around. They're arm and arm. He's leaning heavily against her. have to look I'll have to look at that. I saw turkey pardon thing and making jokes and all that but >> yeah talking about JD Pritsker being fat. He's making jokes about somebody else being fat. No. >> Unreal. >> No, he was making jokes about last year when Biden or whenever he did the auto pin on the two turkeys that Biden had pardoned since he used the auto pin that they were not really pardoned or something. And then he he took the this event is like there's families there and little kids and [ __ ] and he's like JD Pritskar is a fat piece of [ __ ] >> I did. [laughter] Oh my gosh. I did hear him ramble a little bit there. Yeah. Dad and I watched some of it. Okay. >> Yeah, he's gone. Mentally gone. Physically is uh quickly following. I I don't know how long he's got, but I don't think it's long. Huh. >> Um I'll try to pull some of those clips up and look. And then real quick before we go, um, so this morning, dad got the Sonus bar, okay, from Amazon. >> It It came late. He stayed up all night. It never came. It [laughter] finally came this morning. When we got it, I hooked it all up because he can't bend over real far. So, I hooked everything up. The green light is on. We just couldn't understand why it wasn't working. I go, "Did you read the directions?" I go grab the directions. I go after an hour and a half of him saying you're not doing something right and all this. An hour and a half later, you need the app. So, I had to download the app for the Sonospar to work after an hour and a half of dad saying, "Well, it doesn't work. We'll just have to send it back." So, that's been my morning. Happy Thanksgiving. I'm >> Jesus Christ. Well, I wish you luck on that one. >> Roman's coming back through to help us. So, okay, great. He'll >> be helping us. Thank you everybody out there for continuing to watch this show and for joining us on this Thanksgiving episode. Mom, happy Thanksgiving. I love you. Thank you so much for doing these with me. I know you and I very very most of the time were the only two on this. Um, but I think I'm getting somewhere. >> I think you're not. Happy Thanksgiving, Chad. I love you, too. And you know what I think we need to do? Go back. I think they're still on Instagram. On my original ones where you and Haley were just way too busy and couldn't do anything. I would just hold my camera up and go out on walks. I'm sorry our friends, your five friends, we won't be able to be on today. Or I do little note cards. I'll see you next week. I think those are kind of funny. >> You You have access to all of our social media. You can post on it anytime you want. >> We We've come a long way, haven't we? >> Yeah. But if you want to keep making videos where you're going on your morning walks or whatever and post it to Instagram or wherever you were posting it on on all the platforms, please feel free. You can do it anytime. >> Do that when you guys didn't show up and I felt guilty. I said the young ones can't make it, but the old one is here just like today. >> Yeah. >> Haley's back on next week. >> And what >> I said Haley Haley should be back on next week. >> Next Wednesday. Okay. >> For Pi episodes. Then we are going to have one more episode on this Sunday and then the following Sunday will be our special um all together in one place episode. And also I should mention I'm trying a new little experimental thing on Sunday nights. I'm going to be doing a live for about 45 minutes probably at around six o'clock. I'll I'll know the exact time when we release our Sunday episode. So, if you want to come on Sunday evenings and kind of talk about the episode that came out that day, ask me questions, whatever, I will be doing those as well. >> Wow, you're busy little man. [laughter] >> Thanks. [gasps] All right, we will see you this Sunday. >> All right, bye.