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We got a little comment here from Alivea. Alivikica. Alivikica. Maybe 1452 sent my godmother grandmother vid with leaving MAGA and others. She called to tell me she's still Republican but now can't [clears throat] support Trump and wouldn't vote for him again. Mary Lou not alone. I'm telling you, I I mean, I have always thought on this this um podcast that we're doing that my parents were both in many ways kind of representative of MAGA generally speaking. Um in their views and their adherence to it, all of it. And I think like what my mom is going through right now, which is very clearly like she's pulling out of this

[ __ ] and it's going to take her a little bit of time, whatever. for me and my sister are here for however long it takes it takes fine but like she's making massive um steps in that direction. I think we can all agree saying abolish ICE and stuff but I don't think she's the only person who's like this. I I do think MAGA is crumbling. I really do because Trump is getting crazier and crazier. He's I don't know if anybody saw at the um the soccer game the World Cup he like wouldn't leave the stage. Spain was was celebrating their big victory and this

[ __ ] wouldn't leave the stage. So, he's like in all the pictures with them celebrating and I think it was the head of FIFA was trying to like drag him off the stage and she's just up there like, "Fuck you. I'm staying here." I think people are fed up with his [ __ ] Even MAGA and now we're in this war that's seemingly endless. All this [ __ ] Epstein [ __ ] The corruption is is rampant. The even the thing with like the the reflecting pool and the [ __ ] peeling up on the bottom of the reflecting pool. I think people are

[ __ ] done with it. Um, oh yeah, here's the very next question. Side of the ham. Did you see Trump celebrating with Spain? Yeah, it was [ __ ] wild. He's literally the I believe it's the president of FIFA is like, "Come on this way. Like, let me get you off the stage so that our the winning team can [ __ ] celebrate without you here." And he's like, "Nah, I'm just going to stay up here because I'm Trump." I don't think people like that. And globally, certainly obviously nobody [ __ ] likes him anymore.

Mercy one. [clears throat] You can take the girl out of Maga, but you can't take the maj out of the girl. Do you care if Marylu leaves for the right reasons? I mean, leaving is the first step. Then we can discuss her if it's for TRR or for TWWR. That's uh common parliament on my other podcasts for for the right reasons for the wrong reasons which is effectively means um you know in this case like is the intention behind the action what we would all perceive to be good I don't really care uh at this point it's just like getting her to say but but it is I

think her intentions are for the right reasons like saying abolish ICE is there is no other I don't know what how that could even be for the wrong reasons you Um, and so I think once she finally comes around, but we're just getting so close. It's it's the tonnage. It's how many times she's saying like, "That's an X, that's an X, that's another X." It's how many times that is happening now per episode or or per week if you want to look at it like that. It's just like I don't know what she's holding on to anymore except some kind of, you know,

shadow of the idea of the identity she used to have in relation to Maga. Heroisms. Hi Chad. Loved seeing you on Jennifer's from I've had it podcast news channel. She just had Hunter Biden on her show. Maybe she can help you connect. Love the Thank you very much. I'm still working on Hunter Biden. I got emails out. We'll see what happens. But yeah, she it was great going on um her show. My sister and I did it.

God, it was it was a minute ago, over a month ago, I think, at this point. Um but she's fantastic. It was great going on her show. Loved her. Bamarella 24, the docs Trump released showed that Russia interfered on his behalf in the election against Biden. Yeah, that's what we were kind of talking about today. I didn't get to the the Russia part, but like he's like, I have documents to back up [laughter] statements. And it's like, no, bro. Your documents actually contradict exactly what you're saying. And it it's just like the [ __ ] stupidity of the guy, I think, is showing through now. Um the

fact that his own election official was like no we have no evidence that China interfered in any capacity. I think that's very telling that his like the inner circle people are turning on him. All he has left now are these kind of like idiots and uh people who are totally compromised in terms of any moral integrity. People like JD Vance, Marco Rubio who were like never Trumpers but now they're like so far as up his ass they can't see daylight. And then you've got people like Mark Wayne Mullen, this new um director of national intelligence that he's trying to get installed that are

just like, you know, as corrupt and shitty as he is. Let's like that. Um but yeah, it's crazy that he's he's like, "Here's the election was tampered with. Here's my evidence." And it's like this evidence actually shows it wasn't tampered with. And if it was, it was to help you. Aaron E. Bumblebee, did you see Hassan's reaction to Mary Lou saying apologize? Yeah, my sister just dropped that in our or maybe my mom dropped it in our group chat a few hours ago and I saw it. Very, very wild to see that he's still following the story of Marylu.

Jennonic uh Hexes said, "We need our warriors to embrace the Spartan mindset." I fact checked it. The Spartans were defeated by the Persians. The Iranians are the Persians. The irony is lost on the right. No [ __ ] Also, the irony that this is the [ __ ] guy who's like, "We need to get our soldiers [ __ ] beefed up on testosterone." Meanwhile, he's the one who's doing all the weird little like weightlifting things and [ __ ] to like show off. I I really don't get the Republican fascination with um video and pictures of yourself weightlifting.

Like, if you're not a uh fitness influencer, I don't get that one. Paul Ryan did it, too. He was the old speaker of the house uh two administrations ago, right? Or no, it was in the beginning of Biden, wasn't he? Or was he Trump a minute ago? But he had those pictures uh circulating around um with him in a backwards red baseball cap like pumping iron, lifting these little dumbbells, and he looked like a [ __ ] too. Um so, yes, the irony, I'm sure, is lost on Hegsth in every case.

Cyrus Amed 5808. Could you guys bring Destiny on for a episode? Um, the only thing I know about Destiny, somebody else asked this a long time ago and I kind of looked into him and there was some like questionable sex pest type [ __ ] I didn't really look into it any deeper than that. Um, so we probably will not have him on. My apologies.

Disastray. Hey guys, what's each of your favorite colors? Me and my son's favorite is yellow. Interesting. Mine is blue. Um, I am color blind and I think that has something to do with it. Red and green for me are very um difficult to delineate. They both kind of look the same to me. So, blue it is. The trucking preacher. If it takes Mary Lou this long to get close, no wonder Bob had to get a hip replacement. Man's had to put in work.

Love the pod and the fam. Praying for Bob's full recovery. Thank you very much, trucking preacher. Yeah. I mean, I think my sister and I both kind of when we started this podcast agreed or accepted that like it might take my mom a minute to get to a point where she's um you know, ready, willing, and able to to leave the cult. But yeah, my dad is he's been doing it just as long. He's down for the count right now, but he is he's getting better. So, we'll see. We'll see. Hopefully, we can have him back on the show. JP Hinton 85. I

think Marylu has another month in MAGA. I think it could be longer. I just don't like what's coming up. But like she needs some kind of big jarring thing. I think these two ICE murders in the past couple of weeks were that for her in this instance. I think she needs one more big thing like that. And I don't know what it's going to be. She has claimed uh if he pardons Glenn Maxwell. I don't know if that's going to happen. She has claimed if he drops a nuclear weapon in Iran, I feel like if I feel like if he gives that order, it

won't be carried out. I think that will be like some real grounds for removal because I can't imagine that like the US military would be like, "Okay, [ __ ] it. We'll drop a nuclear bomb." I have to imagine that the chain of command that it goes down somewhere in there, somebody's going to stop it. So, I don't know if that would happen either. Um, yeah, I don't know what that event could possibly be. Maybe his death. We don't know.

Sam Sational 33 Mary Lou is so close. I'm excited. It'll be soon. I think so, too. I think she's right there. We're going to get her. The Robert Myers Plus. Wool. Like to shake your hand. Thank you very much, sir. Sonia E2Z, you didn't talk about Russia helping Trump and what info China got people can purchase. I didn't talk about that. You're correct. Um, I try to keep a little bit streamlined. I felt like if I brought both the ideas that China did not influence the election and that Russia did try to help Trump, it's it's a little too much sometimes. You got to

keep your your attacks on the straight and narrow with my mom or sometimes it all falls apart. Susanna Costello 8106. Ask your mom. Why tell Ask your mom. Yes. Tell Ask your Oh, I see. I'm sorry. Why tell Epstein ICE victims to lawyer up as a lawyer or force civil cases? Crimes are prosecuted by the state. If she rejects civil courts deciding guilt, why push civil suits?

I my mom I don't think understands the difference between civil and criminal cases. Um and I think she just anything that you can use to like defend Trump she will. So in this case because it's a civil case that means there can't be jail time. And so in her mind it's like well that's fine then. Who cares? Like if he doesn't wind up in jail that's all she cares about.

even though he has been guil convicted of 34 different felonies for which jail time was recommended but then he never got sentenced because he became president and they just were like well [ __ ] it now he's president now I guess MLA prod 1499 thoughts on flock cameras the [ __ ] is that let me Google this real A network of solarp powered automatic license plate readers and video cameras designed by Flux Safety to help law enforcement and neighborhood association track crime. They operate by photographing vehicles and using AI to identify details like license plate, vehicle make, color, unique vehicle attributes. Um, I don't know. It's like

we're living in a surveillance state. That's done. I don't feel good about it, but it's done. like that. That's just what the world is now. The generation growing up now will never know a world where they're not photographed a thousand times a day, where video of them is not taken hundreds of times a day a day. Um, I foresee a very near future where I think it'll be likely that we will all have a personal drone that's probably like this big that just follows us around 24 hours a day shooting everything we do. And then AIs will sift through all of that footage to

cut together kind of compilations of us per our dictations. You know, make it funny, make it sweet, make it whatever. And that will be what social media is. And then the AI algorithms will serve you whatever it thinks you want to see. I think that's what social media will will become. Um, plot cameras are like the least of our concerns, I think. Laura Todd 4173. Could Maryl swap out that's not good for that's bad?

Yeah, we might be able to get her to do that. I do think reframing language usage can have a pretty strong effect psychologically. Might try to get her to do that. Lake the tattooer, please remind Mary Lou that the police are supposed to catch criminals. We don't need ice. I 100% agree. I I mean, you're talking to somebody who doesn't even think the idea of countries should be in place or that like borders should exist at all.

So, why we need like um immigration and border enforcement, all that [ __ ] To me, I'm like, I don't give a [ __ ] Anybody should be able to come here, live here if they want, however they want to [ __ ] do it. But that's just me. Real dictator Jace, I asked a question, but you didn't select it. Going to keep asking until you put me on. It's kind of a threein one, but it's worth it. Thank you, Real Dictator J. Sorry, I didn't I don't even think I saw it. If you sent it with that same username, I am 100%

sure I didn't even see it. It might have just gotten buried. My apologies. Michael Fredgrren1342. If Mary Lou thinks that Trump's ICE is going farther than she thought, why can't she see that Trump's other policies like voting or Iran war are also going farther than she thought? Well, she definitely sees that the Iran war is going uh farther than she thought. She thought it would be over in in five to six weeks as she said today.

And we're I believe this is we're starting I think week 21 or 22. So, it's gone four times as long as she originally was going to allow. She's aware of it, but that's like the war to her is like an ongoing thing that when it reaches its conclusion, she will be able to claim victory obviously. Well, Trump ended that war. It's like, yeah, but he also started it and it went super long and people died and you know, whatever. But she does, I think, understand that it is going farther than she thought. um the voting thing. As you heard today, if you listen to the

episode, she's essentially relying on the argument that he may be trying to rig the the voting system, but it won't work. That's not going to happen. And so, again, it's it's in her mind, it's very similar to like he's not in jail, so it couldn't have been a crime. It's kind of like let the end not even let the end justify the means. It's it's um let the end kind of justify whatever he's done. Not even to necessarily seek that outcome. But I think that's how she's looking at the voting thing, too.

It's like he is doing this corrupt [ __ ] this corrupt authoritarian [ __ ] but like it's not going to it doesn't matter. He can try to do these crimes, but he's not going to get away with it. So fine. Um Nats 8965. Chad, be proud of yourself. And Haley, you're both amazing. Thank you very much. I'm super proud of Haley right now. She's [ __ ] absolutely crushing it at her bakery. If you if anybody's in Texas around Dallas, go check out Hive Bakery. They're in um Flower Mound. They're in Grapevine, I think, on the border of Flower Mine and Grapevine. Flower Mound and Grapevine.

Um fantastic cinnamon rolls. Shadow Cloud Gaming. Stop letting Maryl get away with reading Chad GBT as a store. She did it multiple times today. Make her site what she's reading. All right, I'll try. I'm trying to get her to like look at her iPad less when we're having the conversation so that we can actually have the conversation. Um, but I don't want to take away her ability to look things up. I know Chad GBT is not correct all the time. Obviously, you have to like double check, fact check, blah blah blah, but I don't want to take away her ability to like to feel like

she is able to look at information herself. I think that would be detrimental to the cause. Michael Madden 9451. Good day from Australia. Wondering how Mary Lou might feel if your pod and family were put on his media offenders list now that Maryl is anti-ICE. [laughter] If my God, that would be one of the funniest [ __ ] days of my life if the necessary conversation YouTube channel ends up on his uh media offenders list.

We become my mom becomes [ __ ] Antifa. She's labeled as a left-wing terrorist. [laughter] Please, I hope you are speaking that into reality. That would be [ __ ] absolutely hilarious. So 414, thank you very much. Strawberry curdles. Does Mary Lou understand that politicians work for us? They are our paid representatives. We do not automatically have to respect them. She does not understand that. And I think like we are now in an era where that is clearly not the case. Trump does not work for us. Trump works for himself and only himself. He has enriched himself to a degree that we've never

seen any politician in the history of America do. Um, and it's at the the cost of our well-being, the citizens well-being. All of our prices are higher. People are losing health insurance. Now we're in a war. You know, all the things, you know, all the [ __ ] Uh, so I don't think that she thinks that because she has in her own mind justified Trump as president. He's my president. So, as long as she accepts that he is the president, I don't think she gets that they work for us, that we pay their salary because he's a [ __ ] literal billionaire. And and he always

or she my mom, too. But like that point that he made very early on was uh you know, I'm not going to take a salary. Oh, how benevolent. And so my mom always will like throw that in your face. He's not even getting paid to do this. He's doing it for free. Sydney, Sydney Alexa, I think that's right. What do you think is holding Marylu back from admitting she's not MAGA at this point?

Did you ever talk to the pet psychic? If so, would you recommend? I did talk to the pet psychic. I'm not sure I would recommend. I personally think it was a bit of a scam. Still fun though. But um yeah, I I don't think it is worth I mean maybe it's worth doing, but I would not recommend the pets psychic we used um which was just somebody that we saw on TikTok, but I also don't want to blow that person up or anything. It was fun.

It was it was money. It was uh I looked at it like this. It was basically like money paid for an entertaining hour of my life and and it was good enough for that. What do I think is holding Mary Lee back from admitting she's not majed entire identity for the past 10 years whatever that may be marriage parenthood your job your political ideology your religious ideology any of these things even let's say even like take something like um if you're a fan of a sports team or a TV show or anything like that, some kind of like extreme fandom of a thing.

Take any of those things that have been in place for you on a daily basis for 10 years and now reverse it. You can't just do it instantaneously like that. Even once you start to realize like, ah [ __ ] I'm getting a little distant from this, there's still a thread. I I have this actually. This right here is um it's a medical alert tag that it says when I die to call this number because I want to get frozen. I want my body to be frozen when I die. I I used to like hardcore believe that the material world was all that existed. If you couldn't

scientifically measure something, it didn't exist, etc., etc. Now, I definitely don't believe that. That has drastically changed. But I still wear this thing and I'm still paying my monthly fee to Alore to get frozen because it's it's this vestage of something that has been like not even I I guess maybe it's a little different because even when I thought that the world was just material and nothing else, I didn't think freezing was going to work. I thought it was like a 00001% chance, you know, but it was like I was willing to roll the dice on that and I still feel that way honestly. I still

think that it's like a low percentage chance. I just don't care about coming back anymore because I think they're coming back in this form. I think there's some other [ __ ] going on. So, my um ideology has changed drastically, but that little piece of my identity has not. I still haven't let it go, and I don't know if I ever would, honestly, you know? So, I cut my mom slack for that. But also, it's just like I don't think any human being um can can make a change like that just instantaneously.

And we've gotten her to take huge steps and she's still inching closer to it. But you hear her sometimes. She's like, "Leave me alone. Stop beating on me." You know, and so we're not beating on her obviously, but she still feels like we are pushing her to that point instead of her getting there on her own. So I'm trying to kind of like back off and just present facts and say, "How do you feel about this? That's another thing you don't like about Trump." You know, that kind of stuff. Um, at any rate, hope that answers your question. El Ching and Brian. Chad, remember when I showed you

my West Borland guitar a few years back? Do I remember this? Where was it at? Elching Bryan. Um, oh yes, I do remember. I think I need more data. JP Hinton 85. We need a cake with Mary Lou saying abolish ICE. Now we're getting somewhere. I don't know when my sister is next going to be there, but she should definitely take that cake back. Make my dad eat a piece of it. [laughter] I don't think he would. He'd probably get pissed. Get that [ __ ] thing out of my house.

David Worth 1025. Hey Chad, I love everything you do. I tried to submit a question and didn't give access by accident. It was the one where I said in the email that I held a CDL. What is that? Do you think it's worth trying to submit next week? Thank you. I don't know what a CDL is. David Worth. Let me Google that. Call of Duty League. I don't think that's it. Oh, commercial's driver's license. Commercial driver's license.

Oh, like a truck driving license. Um, I did not see your question. My apologies. I do remember asking access for one though, so that must have been that one. Um, I can go back and look at it. Uh, sorry I did not see it this week. Captain GO22 Captain Goku, sorry, 2280. Hey Chad, did you see that Trump changed the name of the I40 bridge in East Tennessee? Keep up the good work. Love the show. God, what did he change it to?

[ __ ] Trump. Hang on. Trump changed his name. I40 bridge renaming the Douglas Lake Bridge over the French uh Broad River as the President Donald J. J. Trump Bridge. What a [ __ ] idiot. I didn't see that, but now I did. Zapped 9448. [clears throat] What are your thoughts on Trump? Wanting to tariff Canada over wildfire smoke. What? [laughter] We sent them water bombers with the US head welfares. Also, as Maru, is that [ __ ] real? Jesus Christ, he's such a [ __ ] idiot.

He's such an idiot. I hate him. I And I I you know, obviously don't agree with that. Arizona mountain girl, raining, raining, raining in Arizona today. Cactus emoji, party hat emoji maybe or something. Uh, love the pot. And once again, Haley tells it like it is. Blue heart emoji. Great topics today, Chad. Thank you very much. Arizona mountain girl. Enjoy the rain. Here come the rains again.

Falling on my head like a memory. Falling on my head like a new emotion. Your rhythmics. Natalie Peterson 4181. Hey Chad, is it possible to talk about other cases like Eene Carol's with Marylu to show her there's no such thing as a perfect victim of sexual assault? I feel because Marylu doesn't like Egene Carol, she won't believe her. Yeah. Uh we can try. I mean, we've done that, too. We've talked about all every case basically that's ever been brought against him, including the financial fraud, the other sexual assault cases.

Eugene Carol, um everything. We've talked about all of it at one point or another on this podcast, but sure, I agree with you. I think the Eugene Carol thing for my mom is a non-starter. Um AAM Imam 111. I wonder if Marylu actually understands what she's saying when she says abolish ICE. Agree with it as much as I may. I would rather she fully understand what abolishing ICE entirely looks like. I we kind of got into that when she first said it. I was I said something like, you know, that's a a real drastic step. Like you're not saying reform ICE. You're not saying

defund ICE. You're saying like get rid of the entire agency. And she was like, yes, that's what I'm saying. I think she does understand what she's saying. The Tik Tok storage shed. Thank you very much. K. Van Winkle 777. The White House page about the elections also says that Russia tried to help to get Trump to win. Mary Lou needs to read that part. They have that [ __ ] on the White House page. This is what I'm talking about.

These people are idiots. Like absolute idiots. God damn. Sam Sational. I really do think Marylu is done already. She's just afraid of what it looks like to let go her identity after. That's the thread she's hanging on by. I agree 100%. That's that's kind of what I was saying earlier. It's like these for every person, you have these pieces of your identity that become um you know, pillars like core kind of foundational components from which I mean I don't want to go into all this [ __ ] [ __ ] but how to even begin this? I've been working on a book for a long time that

kind of breaks down the the fundamental abstract ideas that I believe create every human personality of which there are six. From those six branch out kind of like smaller ideas and they they form like these kind of core pillars of around your personality. So like uh Trump obviously one of the pillars is politics and it's like which way do you lean and how important is that to you and are you competitive or cooperative and blah blah blah. But um I think for her it's obviously been a massive part of her identity, especially as we've done this podcast because now she talks about it for a couple hours a week and

we put that on the internet and she sees people's reactions and all this kind of stuff. And so I think for her it's like it's a drastic change to let that go and she's doing it but still there is that piece of her that that can't quite get there. It will happen though. Feeling groovy in California. Hi, just joined on, so you probably covered this already, but Trump said we were supposed to hate Spain. No trade, no travel. What a [ __ ] or a maroon. Um, yeah, he's real dumb. That thing of him on the [ __ ] stage with them, I just like that

picture is going to go viral. Obviously, I'm sure it already is even as we're sitting here talking about this. Just what a [ __ ] utter [ __ ] Diver Virgin asked this at the beginning of the war. Asked this at the beginning of the war and I'm bringing it back. Can you make Maryl donate $100 to the DNC for every week the war has gone on? When she's not personally affected, she'll just keep saying big X. I don't think she would do that. Oh, I'm also going to now turn off the super chats.

Thank you everybody who has um put one in the queue. I'm going to read them all, but I'm going to turn them off. I'm going to turn them off now. Yes, I understand the implications of this action. Okay. Um, Mary, at this point, Mary Lou has enough exes to host a season of America's Got Talent all by herself. More than enough exes to make Elon jealous. Just teasing you, Maryl.

Yeah, I know. But and that's like that's kind of the strategy I'm using now is to make sure that the things we're talking about on the on a weekly basis are going to be more X's. And I mean not not that I'm omitting anything, you know, in service of that either. It's like I'm just really kind of grabbing the top six headlines from the news. They're all X's because a lot of them are like the Iran war is going to be a topic every week probably until it's over. especially as like more people are dying and uh you know the prices of things are going up. Him

tampering with the election system pretty much every week now until we we're leading into the midterms. That's going to be a big X. Most of the stuff he does big all these people that he's trying to get confirmed. Todd Blanch trying to get confirmed as the permanent attorney general. Big X. So um yeah, I think the strategy is working with all the X's. Harts Lopez.

Growing up, did your parents ever admit they were wrong? No. It seems Mary Lou is hanging on because she voted for him. Could be a generational pride thing. I think that is a big piece of it actually. We There was um I don't know when this was I don't know when this was. It was a minute ago, but I remember asking a question. It might have been for a simmerdown or it might have just been at the beginning of a show. I basically asked us all to talk about a time where we were wrong. [snorts] Um, and my dad was like, "Never." And I

think my mom said something about like, "I was wrong about Joe Biden. I thought he could stay awake." You know, some kind of [ __ ] like that. But no, the answer is no. They have never admitted these things to us. HJ Orton one, I think, maybe. Do you think we will see a drastic fall of politicians who support Trump when the new election campaign nears?

Yeah. I think anybody who's on his team the their political career is basically over once he's gone. I just can't imagine in like a postTrump political world anybody who did anything he asked or like how much footage are you going to have of like JD Vance and Marco Rubio supporting him saying that they're doing whatever he wants and that he's a great leader and [ __ ] after he's gone and and it's kind of collectively agreed to that he [ __ ] everything up and was [ __ ] terrible. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the end of it.

But I could be wrong. Susanna Costello 8106. Any progress on Maryl butterfly vlog? Thanks. No. [ __ ] Hang on. Butterfly blog. I'm about to go gallivanting, but when I come back, I think I'm going to go to Oklahoma uh for a little visit and I'll bring some good cameras and stuff and and maybe we can I can help her make one. Um where was I? Here we are.

Samantha414, please watch skit number three, episode 3, Larry David's HBO show with Bob Law. Okay, I don't think that's going to happen. I'm not even sure I understand this. Watch skit 3, episode 3, Larry David's HBO show with Bob. I'm not sure. Are you talking about curb enthusiasm? I'm not sure what this means. Red Novate. Hey Chad with Mary Lou. I suggest that you don't push too hard. She's there about fighting the label and it's scary to give voice to being wrong. Just move on with where she is now and celebrate the win. I agree.

I'm I'm kid gloves the whole way. You know, I don't want like massive progress was made. I don't think she can backslide either though. Once you're at a point where you're like abolish ice, I don't think there's much I can say that would even potentially change her mind about any of that stuff, you know. Um yeah, but I'm not I'm not trying to push her too hard. Haley sometimes can still get a little a little hostile with her, you know. I'm trying not to though. Um, Bronnin Grace 3729. I think if he doesn't die first, if you watch if you watch Epist Crisis, he might

eventually try to lovebomb his base like any narcissist would. What do you think? I'm so sorry. This one's This one's a little rough for me. I think if he doesn't die first, if you watch Epist Crisis, he might eventually try to lovebomb his base like any narcissist would. What do you think? Yeah, maybe. I The lovebombing of the base though, he's already like calling people stupid and [ __ ] Like I don't I don't think he cares about his base. I think he takes for granted that they will do whatever he says even though his base is shrinking. So, I'm not sure. We'll see

what happens. roided gay. I can very much confirm from personal experience and expertise. Hegsth doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Shrugging hasky sign. Um I'm assuming with reference to testosterone. It's clear he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about in virtually every case. But yeah, this just came across as like so dumb. Doesn't know what he's talking about. Uh talking out of his ass. And it's also like how can you I guess you can make the test mandatory. I don't know the Tik Tok storage shed.

What do you think will happen to the people who try to push Trump's agenda and also help him commit fraud? I don't know. I I I think about this with some frequency. Like what is going to happen after Trump to all these people who have engaged in like clearly criminal acts? everything from insider trading to helping him commit fraud to uh whatever they're doing to the voting thing, wrongful firings, like all kinds of stuff.

I don't know. Here's the bad news. I have zero faith that any Democrat will take up the mantle to make sure any of these people are held to account. I just think the Democratic party is like very inept. Um otherwise, we wouldn't have Trump uh doing what he's doing right now. So those that's kind of what you're relying on. You're relying on some kind of Democratic party sweep, some kind of Democratic Party control of the White House, the Senate at the very least. You need the House, too, though, if you're going to like launch investigations and stuff. Obviously, you need the DOJ. And

then it's a matter of like how much of the DOJ's time is spent going after Trump and his allies. And also, how does Trump how do Trump and his allies spin that? Because they're going to be like, "Oh, see, they're weaponizing the DOJ against us, just like we said." And I don't know how public perception shifts. I don't really know. Like I said, though, I have no faith that the Democrats will be able to do anything. Um, simply because they haven't so far. They're they're inept.

McKenna Hickey 9467, thank you very much. Man Freak Show, have you seen The Odyssey? Not yet. I'm um I'll probably wind up seeing it when it's on TV or something. I know. I know. I know. I just am not like the biggest Matt Damon fan. I'm not sure that I can watch a whole movie of him. Side of the Ham 420. Why do you think weightlifting fitness has been associated with the right MAGA?

I see it a lot on social media. Sucks because I'm starting my fitness journey. Um, I think it's like Manosphere kind of, but there's there's plenty of fitness influencers who aren't that, you know? It's just like these Pete Hespath is is like lifting his little weights and doing his little chin-ups and stuff. The that [ __ ] one with RFK and Kid Rock working out. It's just like to try and promote this idea of manliness, you know, but it always comes across as like fake and shitty when they do it. Uh, but good luck on your fitness journey. I too am on one. It's called life.

Mr. the red fox 911 pod and diamond listener. Thank you very much. How many people here know that you were on a podcast where the co-host farted on the mic? [laughter] We need some wools. That's my good friend Will Sasso who I've did a couple of podcasts with. Still one of my still one of my stems doing the dudesy get ripped plan. Up 10 pounds. Nike. Nice.

Do I have it? I think he has it. I think it's at his house. Sarah Rose 953. Uh, hey, he he didn't say that. And if he did, he didn't mean it. And if he did, I'm sure he has his reasons. And if he didn't, Biden did something way worse. And if he didn't, we'll see. She's getting there, though. I know that that's the the chain. And now you kind of have to add in there, too. Like, I know [snorts] he's trying to do it, but it'll never work. That's also one that is now in the mix. But she is getting there, though. You are right. She is

getting there though. I turn it down. Chad, you need to go into the details of the Eugene Carol trial. Well, I was told prior that I should stop talking about it. There's DNA evidence that was submitted and IRC. What does that mean? It was a unanimous jury details. What's IRC? I know that I should know this. Hang on. IRC if I remember correctly. Okay, I I'll check it out.

Janae, no. Jane Doll, have you tried to get Pam Hemp Hill on the show? She's the MAGA granny who stormed the capital and then left MAG. I think Mary Lou would love her. I have not tried to get her on. She was the one who when they were um uh not commuting the senses, when they were getting pardoned, if I remember right, she was the one who said, "Fuck you. I don't want a pardon. I did that [ __ ] and I I need to have my serve my time or whatever. I think if I'm if I have it correctly. Uh but I will I will

check her out. M Fowler official. I'd like to see Jules's reaction to MI. Oh, Mary Lou saying [ __ ] Ice. That's actually interesting. Have her back on. I met her in person when I was back in Oklahoma last Jules's reaction. Um, yeah, I am curious about I should have asked my mom that have any of her MAGA friends seen that clip of her saying [laughter] [ __ ] it and what do they think about that? Oh [ __ ] Or even my dad. God damn it. I wish he could be on the show right now. Mr. the Red Fox 911 also love that we have late night

chats with Chad for real now. Thank you. Moving on. Thank you. Moving on. This is a much better late night chats with Chad though. The original version of it was me, my friend Will, and another friend of ours named Tommy Blotcha. It was them just kind of like steamrolling me and talking over me as people were trying to call in and ask me questions and so I couldn't ever [ __ ] answer them. It drove me insane. Uh 10 101 Bray, I think.

10. Is that one or an L? Tennel. 101 Bray. I'm not sure what this I'm very sorry about the name. Are you familiar with Dr. Steven Hassan, cult expert and the author of the cult of Trump? I have seen a few of his Instagram videos. He might be able to help you get Marylu to take those last steps to understanding. Yeah, maybe I could reach out to him. I' I've been kind of circling around his his stuff. Certainly, he's of interest to me.

Disaster. Do you feel that Maryl is jealous of Haley's success? She seems somewhat resentful when she calls Haley famous. I I don't know. I don't get that vibe, but if you're picking it up, maybe it is there. Interesting. I have not thought of that. I don't think so, though. That that it's never come come across that way to me, but I don't know. Um, Cyrus, Ahmed 5808, hi Chad, Adam Mockler, or Dean on an episode.

Yeah, I think we could do that now. My dad put a a hard demand that nobody under 30 could be on the podcast or he'd leave the podcast, but I [snorts] feel like his uh position from which he is making these demands has lost a lot of strength. Paula from And FYI, did you say you were going bounce on Nate's podcast? Love the great things happen to your family going bounce on Nate's podcast. I think maybe going back on Nate's podcast. We haven't scheduled anything formally, but yeah, I totally would. or we could have him on or whatever.

I turn it down. Please do ample research on the topics you bring up. We can't expect you to know everything, but you can do more to you can do more to get more details. I believe you can get further with Marylu if you package the info a little better. I do my best. I turn it down. My apologies if it's not up to par. That's the best I can do.

Basset Hound 2. The surveillance of flock is not the worst part. It's that it's run by large company that is profiting on selling everyone's data and lying about it. But I mean, yeah, that that's every company though. Amazon is doing that. Meta is doing that. Google is doing that. We're on Google right now. We are all using all of these companies products and they are selling our data to each other to whoever they want basically. I mean that's welcome to humanity. I don't think flock cameras are like any worse than like Instagram or anything else. Uh, personally, none of it's good, but it's like this is the

world we live in. Absolute dodo. Hi Chad. Granddad passed a year ago. Sorry to hear that. Reminds me of Bob and Mary Lou. If dad goes stay connected, fix mental health ASAP. Mary Lou looks wiped on the pod. Hoping Bob recovers. Losing people sucks. Love the pod. Can you say hi to Chelsea? Hi, Chelsea. Um, yeah, we're we're doing our best with it. Obviously, you know, it's like my parents both are getting older. I think a lot of what's going on with my dad has to do with that and uh you know, we're getting through it the best we can.

Certainly trying to help our mom out as much as we can. In viz 25, I think for a Wednesday episode, you should show Mary Lou street signs from all over the world. A vast majority of them should be obvious. Her saying undocumented people don't understand street signs. Yeah, it's one of her her wildest arguments to me. Um, you know, and and really it's kind of an argument that can only come from somebody who has never been outside of the country where you realize like I only speak English. I guess I speak a little bit of Spanish, but you know, you go to Europe or something and it's like

you can drive around. I've driven in France fine. I don't speak French. Um, it's not like as as crazy difficult, I think, as my mom thinks it is. Or that it's like, "Oh, you can't read the street sign, so you just [ __ ] plow into traffic going in the opposite direction or something." It's like, you can see which way the cars are driving, though, right? Um, yeah, she doesn't get it. She just uses it as a weird excuse, obviously.

Mr. the Red Fox 911, I miss Tom Holman's blood rituals. Saw your dudesy mug on a few streams ago. The blood is the covenant. Tom Hman, the the guy who's the head of ice right now. Or are you thinking about Tom Hayne? Maybe his blood rituals. Yeah, I still have a bunch of dudesy mugs and stuff that I drink from from time to time. And remember, indeed, the blood is the covenant because at Coca-Cola, it's keep what you kill.

It's a deep cut. If you didn't watch Dudes, you have no [ __ ] idea what I'm talking about. Don't call it San Fran. How often are you high during the pod? Zero times. I've never been high during the necessary conversation. I can't say the same about some of my other podcasts, but I've never been high during um Necessary Conversation. I'm Look, I've floated soft floated the idea a few times on Necessary Conversation to have an episode where we all get high.

I I think that that would be the most fun episode we've ever had. I'm still going to try to do it. Um and I think my mom might be getting more open to that idea, so we'll see what happens.

Um, but I appreciate the offer. side of the hand 420. I don't understand Mary Lou saying just give me time. I'm telling you it's it's that thing that I was talking about earlier like that part of her. It's like it's her. It's a part of her that she has to let go. This isn't just about being like, "Oh, I see Trump is a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] Therefore, I denounce everything that I ever said about him." This is like she has to let a piece of her own self go. Just give me time. that in some way um metaphorically or psychologically

is akin to a death. She is becoming a different person. And when you tie it all into like that person, that MAGA version of Mary Lou, what else is tied to that? everything in the past 10 years of her life, including her relationship with my dad, her relationship with me, my sister, what it has been, it like to come out and say, "I denounce Trump," or or however she's going to say it when she says it, it means that she has to allow that version of herself to die on some level. And that's a [ __ ] heavy thing to do. It It's It is not like

I She's close. I mean, we can all tell it. I just think that it's like she needs more time. Just give me time. That that's sometimes all it is. You know, a lot of this podcast was about that very early on about the idea that obviously we weren't going to change anybody's mind overnight or with like one thing where we're like, well, he said this, but he lied. See? Oh, now you denounce Trump. I knew that was never going to happen. It's taken us four and a half years roughly to get to where we are now where she's saying abolish ICE.

that that is the biggest step forward I've ever seen from her. She's also saying she wants universal health care. Another giant leap. So, she needs a little more time to get to the the main meat of it. You know, she's she's denouncing this and that these things that are all around the main target. She will get there. She just needs time. That's literally what it means.

Michelle Culture [laughter] [snorts] Chad, how did you not know about Flock? Is it because Aaron Parnass hasn't made a real about them? You don't actually care about any of this, do you? It's starting to seem like this is just a grift. Interesting. Well, I mean, if it is a grift, for the first two and a half years, it was a grift that was not only making me no money, it was it was negative money to produce this thing.

Um, how do I not know about flock? I I don't know. How do you know about it? It hasn't entered my my media thing, but I read about it now and I do know about it. Um, and do I not care about any of this? I mean, I I would say the contrary is true that we've done an episode of this show uh every week pretty much for four and a half years should be evidence to that end. But if you're feeling that way, I totally understand and my apologies. Jacob uh gear 525. How you like new POE2 league? What are you running?

[sighs and gasps] I like it. I'm stuck at like level I think my guy's level 87 right now. It's a ice shot ranger. I just can't get a powerful enough bow. I'm playing on solo selfound. It's fine. I There's honestly like too much [ __ ] in Path of Exile 2 now though already. It's like you have the the little green ravine things that close, whatever those are called, rifts. You have the temple that you have to go into. There's just like a lot of [ __ ] The map I do think they made a lot of good changes to the map, but I'm still enjoying it. It's

just getting a little like it's getting to be a little bit like why I I didn't really get into POE 1. There's so much [ __ ] Kennedy Fattis. Can you ask Mary Lou why she's against politics and business but supports the Trump burger place in OKC? Uh the Trump burger place though is not like owned by Trump. You know, the politics of business [ __ ] is like Trump is literally diverting money to his children. But yeah, I can I can ask her that. Two ices one palm with. Hey Chad, would love to see you help out at Hive. Sounds like Haley

needs a hand. [laughter] If only I didn't also have a job, then yes, I could go to Hive and and help make some cinnamon rolls. Elching and Brian, we did a video interview for Dudesy podcast. I showed you the West Borland guitar and we talked about UFOs. Oh, [ __ ] yeah, dude. I remember that. I live up near your birthplace. Yes, I do remember that. So weird that you bring up West Borland. I literally had like a 10-minute conversation about West Borland today in my living room. Uh, strangely I Is that a synchronicity? You tell me, dude. The real tomain. Have any

favorite metal bands? All time? I really used to like this band. I'm sure they're not around anymore called Samuel or Samuel. Uh they had a album called Ceremony of Opposites that was like one of my favorites. I like all the old um Iced Earth stuff from the '9s. They were one of my favorites for sure. but all the big ones too. Um, you know, Sepura, Pantara, all that stuff. Marisy one, do you know what quote I will indemnify you means? Trump said that to Rogan when he refused to play a bad clip of Kamla, a scary glimpse into his brain.

Yeah, I mean, everything he says is a scary glimpse to his brain. that thing that he said about uh when he called Japan a Muslim nation and everybody was just like that barely even made the news. A [ __ ] president of the United States called Japan a Muslim nation. It was in the news for like half a day then something else just [ __ ] swept it.

That's kind of like what what I'm curious to see when he leaves is what's going to happen to the news cycle because I remember when Biden came in the news cycle was like it wasn't like this. maybe once or twice a week something would pop off where you were kind of like, "Oh, what? Huh?" Now it's like four things a day minimum when I'm making the list um over the course of the week of like what possible topics might go into the show.

That list gets to like 30 deep easy and I have to pick six. You know, when when uh Biden was in office, it was not like that. I remember because we started this podcast during his uh second or third year. I don't remember exactly when, but we started during Biden and I definitely remember a couple of weeks where like I didn't even fill a list. I barely had four things. You know, it ain't like that with Trump. So, I'm curious to to see what happens when Trump is gone.

What happens to the news cycle? Jennonic Marylu said that states should run elections. They do. Article 1, section 4, clause one. The framers did that so they're harder to rig on purpose. He wants to federalize them to make them easier to rig. Exactly. And that's what the Mark Wayne Mullen came out and was like, we're going to give you these new um guidelines to by which you have to run your [ __ ] election and if you don't, we will fine you state election officials or possibly jail you like they are trying to threaten the people running the state elections so that they

will do what they want. That to me, I don't know if it's going to work. Like my mom was saying, that'll never work. But the fact that they're like openly, brazenly trying it now, this is just straight authoritarian playbook [ __ ] We shall see. Oh, we got three more questions here. Yeah, buddy. Jay, why doesn't your mom extend the same grace to immigrants as she does to animals?

Much love to you and the fam, Bob, though. [laughter] I don't know. I I always try to go that route with her, too. I mean, my sister and I have been on her for I don't know how long. We're both vegan and uh you know we try to use that same rational like you love animals but you [ __ ] eat them. You contribute to the industry that just slaughters millions of them on a daily basis globally. Um it never seems to work. I don't know why she can disconnect her love from animals to both people and animals. I'm not sure why it doesn't

work. Um Ashley Ashton [clears throat] 9412. Is there a way we can send fan mail to Marylu? Not that I'm aware of. I would say probably DM her on Instagram is probably the best way to do it. She reads those. And finally, Victoria McDonald 1883. Hey Chad, can you get Monty Mater on the show? I think Maryl would benefit from hearing her story of leaving Christian nationalism. I My sister really likes her. I really like her too. I have not reached out to her. I'm curious if she would. She's like gigantic, isn't she? I want to say she's got like millions of followers and stuff. I think that might

be I don't know. Hassan [ __ ] did too though and he had us on. She's got 2.6 million followers on Instagram. Um but I agree. She's great. I would love to have her on the show. Um if we could do that, but hopefully in the near future. We are, as I said, I'm about to go gallivanting. We're going to have a show this Wednesday. We're going to have one next Sunday.

Probably then we will skip that Wednesday. I'm going to take my cameras with me and stuff. We're gonna try to do one Sunday, but I think where I'm gonna be is gonna be like midnight. So, I don't know if it's going to wind up happening. And then we'll skip the next Wednesday. Then I will be back the following Sunday. So, we might have a little uh Wednesday, Sunday, Wednesday gap coming up after next Wednesday, but we may not either. I'm going to try. I'm going to do my best. But, thank you everybody for joining me tonight. Thank you for watching uh the episodes. We are

very close with my mom and I think that that's it's imminent. It's just going to be about what is the thing that makes her cut the final tie. And it's coming. I don't know what it is, but it's coming. Thank you again for joining us and we will see you on Wednesday.