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America is deeply divided. There are only two sides to every issue and there is no interest in finding common ground, not even with members of your own family. But as the 2024 presidential election looms on the horizon, there has never been a more important time to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Kultgen. With me today is my sister Haley and my mom Mary Lou. My dad is suspiciously absent from today's podcast and we're going to get into all of that as well as some of the big political issues of the week. There were of course a lot. There are going to be a lot every week now as we roll into the election because so much wild stuff has happened with Kamala Harris coming in and taking Joe Biden's uh spot as the Democratic nominee. And J.D. Vance continuing to talk about single cat ladies and having sex with couches, etc. etc. So Stop it. Uh I didn't prepare a question for us today because we have I mean, kind of a big thing that's happened in our family. Mom, do you want to fill everybody in on why dad is not here? I don't even know how to start it. I really don't. Well, I can start it. Um this was on This is what? Two or three days ago, right? We record the show on Sundays. This happened on Thursday. Wednesday night 6:30 Wednesday night 6:30 p.m. I received a text message that was simply a picture from you, Mom. A picture of dad on a stretcher being taken out by two paramedics. It was hard to tell from the vantage point if he was alive or dead and all I could think I mean, the the picture came with no context from you either. It was simply an image of dad being wheeled away by two paramedics. And I was like, is he dead? I was zooming in on the picture. I couldn't tell. Did he have a heart attack? A stroke? I had no idea what happened. So, Mom, do you want to fill us in? I had no time to put words in a text. So Oh my god. Clearly. No, I did not. Okay. Let's back it up. 8 weeks ago he took a little tumble at Tractor Supply. Remember that off a curb? Yeah. At that time, he had a bruise on his hip, but he popped back up. No big deal. Mhm. Went to our family doctor. They took an x-ray. They said, "Nothing nothing bad on your hip. Um arthritis. So, you need to go to physical therapy." He has been doing physical therapy for 8 weeks, twice a week and it was getting more and more intense. Uh and they kept saying, "You got to move arthritis. You got to move it for arthritis." And he would come home really really in pain. To where our doctor then or she's our PA just increased, you know, the meds. Here's some gabapentin. Here's some Celebrex. Here's this. Here's that. And uh so that was 8 weeks ago. He had a really really hard PT on Tuesday. On Wednesday, he told me, "I cannot walk on this thing. It my left hip, it's really hurting. It's burning today." I said, "Well, rest. I'll go do shiny. I'll go do the runaround. No big deal." So he stayed at home. He iced it and it about and he got up a couple times during the day. At 6:15-ish, he said, "I'm really hungry for cereal." I said, "Okay." And he now is walking like a and little guy from China, okay? Hunched over. Jesus Christ. I can't say a man? No. Why not? How about just He's He is not walking well. He is walking like a little with little claws on, okay? There you go. Um So, he's walking very short stepped. I see him go to the kitchen. I look away. Then I hear a snap and I hear "Mary." And I turn. He is on the ground and he's kind of wedged between the pantry door and our tile floor. And I said, "Just stay down. Just stay down. Just rest a minute." And he was bleeding on both arms. He goes, "Just give me Band-Aids." And as he's screaming in the worst pain I've ever heard him be in. And he's not a complainer. We know this. He's not. So, he's screaming in What? in regard to pain. In regard to pain level. Okay, sure. Screaming. Uh told me to go get the Band-Aids quick. I did. I put them on both arms so we stopped the blood. And then I said, "Do you think you can get up?" And he goes, "Let me see." He propped himself up on the side of the wall by the pantry. And I go, "Just a minute. I got to think this through. Got to think this through how to get you up." And he goes, "I'm not getting up." He said, "911 me." And as he's saying this though he's in bad pain, like the worst I've ever seen him. So, 911, we got two dorks come 20 minutes later. They were terrible. And even my friend who is a paramedic, Jules Uh-huh. I took a picture of the of the ambulance. I said, "Who that Where are they from?" It looked like their ambulance was zebra, like black, white. Um and then it had a little brown in it. That's not the color of our ambulance around here. And she tried to explain that when the Oklahoma City ambulance uh that services us has no more ambulances, they go to little cities outside and these two guys were weird. Anyway, they did get him in on the gurney. They got him up with a little bit of pain. Took him out the door and said, "Where do you want Where do you want him to go?" And at that time, all his records were at a hospital called OU, which is pretty close to the house. They have a small hospital OU on 2nd and then the trauma center is downtown. Yeah. I said, "Let's go to the small one where his records are just for the x-ray." And we get there and they x-rayed and broken. He broke the femur right underneath the ball at the top of the femur. Broke all the way across. They'd given him fentanyl in the ambulance. Didn't do a thing. By the time I got to the ER uh now he's screaming. It was hurting. He said, "Fentanyl's not helping. Give me something else." They wouldn't give him anything else until they did a second x-ray and then the doctor uh said, "Okay." Gave him the morphine and the doctor said, "We don't set those type of big bones here." Mhm. He said, "We don't do this." He said, "You've got a pretty good break there. I'm not doing it. You need to go to OU trauma downtown or uh the hospital of your choice." Well, I had a good friend maybe two and a half three weeks ago fall off a horse. Uh both hips broke, crushed her pelvis. She went to the OU trauma center. 5 days she laid in bed before she got her operation. Due to the fact it's a trauma center, if a brain I mean, a gunshot wound comes in they you know, they go first, you go second. They pushed her 5 days out to surgery. I didn't want that to happen with dad. So you know, our health system really sucks in the United States. I didn't know what to do but ask people. So, I asked that ER doctor who I thought was pretty good "Where would you take him?" He said uh Integris Baptist. He goes, "That's where you need to go. They've got good ortho doc doctors there, orthopedes." I said, "Okay." He goes, "Let me call him to make sure." He called him. He said, "The big hospital at at Integris has no beds." I said, "Really? Okay." Now I'm starting to cuss. I go, "Okay. All right. No beds." I said, "Then where?" He goes, "They have um it's a littler hospital of the big one, but the orthopedes go back and forth." He said, "You'll have the same doctors, but you'll be in a smaller hospital." I said, "Let's go." It was called Deaconess. So, uh they took him. I had to run home. Take care of kitty quick. Let her out quick. Uh grab all our financial. Grab anything that I needed for him. His pill list, all that. Um I got there maybe 30 minutes after he was there and they did the x-ray. They got him stabilized. Doped him up so good. I loved it. On morphine. Yeah. I I called him at some point during this to talk to him and I was like, "Whoa." He's out of it. He loved everybody. He loved me so much. God, I wish I could have seen that. Uh-huh. He gets a little crazy on morphine. Um we By the time we got him in his room, got him settled, kind of had some information about what we were going to do the next day. I got home at 2:30 in the morning. Yeah. And I couldn't sleep. And then I went back at 5:00 the next day. They said I doctor might be in or maybe not due to the fact that he's already scheduled surgeries for that day. I go, "Oh god." So, um I just kept hanging out, but then you have to be vocal. You have to be your own advocate. I'd go up to that nurse's desk and say "Uh who's his doctor Who's the doctor that's assigned to my husband, please?" They finally gave me a name. So, then I went back to his room for a minute. Then I went back up. I said "Uh could you page that doctor, please? I need to speak with him." They said, "I'm sorry, he's in surgery." Okay. I said, "When will he be out?" Then I got that time, went back, waited some more, went back up. Could you please page him now? They did, and he came. He said, "I'm going to work you in today. I have a full schedule, but your husband will be operated around 4:00 or 5:00." I said, "Perfect." He goes, "We're going to come in, do some more x-rays on him, take him away for a while, but he'll be operated on then." I said, "Perfect. Thank you very much." And I liked him. He was very He looked like he's 14 years old to me. He's about the same age as Doogie Howser. Doogie Howser. He was young. Um he did ask some questions about Dad that were very good. And then he asked those questions to Dad later. He said, "What do you want to do with those two legs the rest of your life?" Bub goes, "Uh You know, this was after he's off some of the morphine." I want to be an NFL kicker. Yeah, right. He said, "Do you Do you travel much?" And he goes, we go, "No." And then he goes, "Well, what do you do every day? Tell me your routine." And he said, "We have a horse. I like to go out to Shining, and I like to walk him around." But he said, "My pain in my hip I haven't been able to." He goes, "Okay." He goes, "What else?" Dad goes, "I like to go to Costco and walk walk the aisles." Doctor goes, "Okay." For real. And he goes, "You know, my wife wants me to walk with her, but I just haven't been able to in the morning." And he goes, "Okay." He goes, "We're going to do a full hip on you then, a full hip replacement." Mhm. He said, "If you would have told me you're a homebody, you don't do much, you just walk to the bathroom, back to watch TV," he said, "I would have done a partial." But he said, "Since you do some walking a bit, you're going to get a full hip." Uh from there what happened. Yeah, full hip replacement. Full hip replacement. cut off the entire top of the femur and and put a metal one in there, basically, right? They put a metal uh shaft that is hooked to the metal ball that then goes into the socket that is also replaced a little bit with metal. He took all of that out. And he said, "If he would have done the partial, the inside of the hip would not have been replaced, but he had a bunch of arthritis, so he said, 'I'm glad I replaced it.'" Mhm. And now how is Dad feeling? I know he's asleep right now, but he's had the surgery, he's back home. He's walked He walked 80 steps that next day. Or no, he walked 100 steps that next day with PT. This morning he's been up 80 steps, he'll do 80 more. His oxygen did drop a bit just to the fact the anesthetic always does that to him. And he's on oxygen a little bit, that's no big deal. It'll come back out. But this you're saying the medical system is bad and all this because you had to wait around and stuff, but really simply it happened quickly that he was he broke the hip to the time he got the surgery, and now he's walking. There was a time in human history where a broken hip is a death sentence. Right. Now it's it's like just a in and out like 2-day procedure, basically. But I think I lucked out cuz we got a good doctor, too. And luck is is very scary when you're at a point where he Dad was on the gurney ready ready to go to the operation. Mhm. Uh the doctor Doogie Howser turns and looks at me and says, "I need to tell you this." He said, "He can't hear me, he's in and out." He said, "I have to say this because this is my job." He said, "Your husband can die on that table. Yeah. He can have a stroke, he can have a heart attack, he could bleed out." He said, "But I know he is your everything, and you are his." And he said, "I will do everything in my power to make this operation a huge success." And he stuck out his hand and shook mine and said, "Kiss him goodbye, he's leaving." Now if that don't put it into perspective, That I've I've had certain operations in my life where I had to be put under. I had my tonsils taken out, I had an ACL surgery, even colonoscopy. They tell you the same [ __ ] in all those things. I know, it's scary though. It's scary when it's right in your face. Yeah. sure. Well, I'm glad that you guys made it through. Has Dad I know again, I know he's asleep, he's not going to be on this episode. Has he said anything about the political situation, or have you thought about it at all in the past days since this traumatic incident has occurred? Or have you found that it's kind of dissipating now, not as important? I've seen You know what? It's not quite as important because when something like that hits you in the face, Yeah. you know, and I I'm not a sitting down person, so I couldn't sit. And the operation was only about 2 and 1/2 hours, but they forgot to tell me he went in late. Mhm. So I was there 7 hours. Um I was up walking around, and guess I found a little chapel, Haley. And I went into the chapel. I don't know who I talked to, but whoever I did, it worked. Mhm. But who You're talking about God? I think I was, yeah. God is also the one who broke the hip. No, he isn't. He didn't mean to if he did. Do you think Kamala Harris has anything to do with Dad breaking his hip? Of course she did it. Of course she did. No, okay. I did not I I have seen her on TV a couple times, I've seen Trump a couple times on TV, but it really is weird. And Dad was watching uh horse face I think it was yesterday just laughing. But yeah, it um it is weird. Yeah. Mhm. Weird in what way? That some of that wasn't that important to me anymore. And is it still not? Have you kind of checked out of it? Now you guys are back home, and yes, you're going to have a a new routine for a minute while he heals and is getting used to this new hip replacement and everything, but do you think you're going to get directly back into the the same kind of level of fervor that you had prior to this? Oh. Hell yes. So you Okay, so it's a it's a momentary reprieve, and that's it. Because she is half Indian. Why aren't we saying our our half Indian president is running, right? Or our half Indian candidate is running. Uh-huh. Okay. half Indian, y'all know it. I guess we're getting into this. Um so, what I wanted to start with today, now that we're getting into the politics, is um Trump going to the National Association of Black Journalists. Did you see this interview? Are you aware of any of this? Yes. I didn't see that. about it, Mom? Oh my god. I didn't see that. Okay, last week Trump showed up at this event called the National Association of Black Journalists. It's their annual convention, and he went out on stage with these three black women journalists to answer their questions or whatever. And uh he sits down, and the first question is essentially, "You've said and done all these racist things, and you're promoting these racist policies. What do you have to say about that?" And he to this woman, directly to her face, was like, "That's the rudest thing I've ever been asked. This is the worst first question I've ever had." Essentially saying you're a piece of [ __ ] to this woman. There are boos audibly coming out of the audience. He's later asked about um the fact that he has said police should all be immune from prosecution, and they brought up this recent case where a black woman was shot in the face by a cop in her home, and there's full body cam coverage of it. And they say, "Do you think that guy should be immune?" And he's like, "Well, I don't know much about that. I mean, it looks like a bad situation, and I don't And he's just like backpedaling. You all right? You watching TV? What are you doing? No, somebody called me. It's okay. He's just kind of like backpedaling, tripping over his words. He also at that very event says that Kamala Harris is not black to a room full of black journalists. So it didn't go well for him, and his people pulled him out of it early. They were in the process of asking him another question when they got word basically that Trump's team is like, "Nope, we got Get him out of here." My favorite [ __ ] was God, how did he phrase it? He said, "No history No president in the history of the United States has done more for black people since Abraham Lincoln." So he was equating what he's done for black people to freeing them from slavery. Uh-uh. I didn't hear any of that. And then he starts saying that? Uh this was I'll have to look it up later. Yeah, I'm not sure when this was. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I had this pulled up, so In between looking at the hip kit and figuring out what to do with it. I know. This was um No, I really didn't see that. I I can't find the date of it. I'm so sorry, but it was in the middle of last week. Um he also said So he said the thing about Kamala Harris not being black. He also kind of started beating the drum that he always beats about like immigrants are coming in from the southern border and taking what he called black jobs. And one of the things these women asked him, "What's a black job?" And he goes, "Well, any job. Any job." I did hear him say though when he first met her, Yeah. um she identified as an Indian. I did hear something about that. And now she's identifying as black. Who cares? she's both. Yes, she's mixed. She's trying Okay, why isn't she going after Indian voters? She's only going after black voters. What are you talking about? She's going after any voters, all voters. Well, the day that she was supposed to her only job as VP is to be there with the Prime Minister of Israel and she snubbed him and went to the black sorority to get the 50,000 black votes there. You keep bringing that up. It doesn't matter. What what you're talking about doesn't matter. What we're talking about here is Donald Trump going to this event and completely bombing. It was a a disaster on such a scale. And by the way, he wasn't even going to come out. There are articles have now come out that the president of this association essentially was in the process of writing a little speech to come out and be like, "So sorry, Donald Trump's not going to show up." Because he they were fact-checking him live on stage and he was about to refuse to walk out on stage if they fact-checked him. Now, why do you think that would be the case? I have no idea. Cuz he knew he was going to lie and that's his entire thing is he just spews lies, spews lies, spews lies. So if he's going to be fact-checked They're not fact-checking horse-face? Again, she wasn't there. This was Donald Trump coming out on this stage to answer these questions and he was at the point of refusing to do it if they were going to fact-check him. Finally, he does come out, but even that interview is cut short when his handlers are realizing like this is an unmitigated disaster. It's interesting to me that you haven't heard anything about this, but also this was happening right around the time dad's breaking his hip. So Yeah, I I have not been on TV. Uh-uh. Okay. I'll get back on it today. Let me ask you this. Has the um the Imane Khalif situation in the Olympics reached you? I did see that because in the hospital we did have on the Olympics on the TV. But What do you believe about that situation? I just I briefly know the situation, but the one in question looks like a man to me. Okay, can you explain the situation? Just explain it how you know it. How I know it is those two boxers were at the Olympics. Uh the one that looked like the man had not passed uh hormone testing and two fights prior or something to the Olympics. And the one that went down on her knees at 45 seconds and gave in was getting the [ __ ] beat out of her. And wanted to win the fight for her father or something. Is that right? All right. I'll just read this. as a female, but the one that was beating the [ __ ] out of her never did. All right, I'm going to looked like a man to me. Okay, well luckily for many people on the planet, whoever looks like a man or doesn't look like a man to you is not the measure of whatever gender might be. Here's the Why not? of the situation uh I will now read to you. Misinformation is circulating about Imane Khalif having XY chromosomes or elevated testosterone. Not only would this be irrelevant as women can naturally have both, but it is also untrue. Imane was disqualified from the 2023 Women's World Boxing Championships after its governing body, the International Boxing Association or IBA, claimed she failed a gender test in quotes. The methodology for that test has never been made public, nor have Imane's results. The IBA is run by Umar Kremlev, a colleague of Vladimir Putin, and its main sponsor is Gazprom, a Russian state-owned energy company. Imane's disqualification came mid-tournament 3 days after she beat a Russian competitor in the semifinal and the International Olympic Committee, IOC, has cut ties with the IBA over concerns of corruption. So essentially what happened here is this fighter beat a Russian in this prior contest, the Russian governing body was a, "No, you can't win. That's a man. Didn't didn't pass the gender qualifications." So they made this up and now that is kind of sticking in the Republican echo chamber as this argument that they're using to be like, "Oh, this is trans in sports." Imane Khalif is a woman, always has been a woman, has never identified as anything else, and these tests that people are glomming onto are not even real. Okay, have you seen what what that person looks like? It looks like a man. That doesn't matter. What you look like is irrelevant. So I mean I Let's bring up another one. Why? Why Why do you say that? Why do you think she looks like a man? Cuz the physique like Brittney Griner you think that's a woman? So muscles. Muscles? Muscles are what make men. Boys. Muscles. Every Every Olympic No, every Olympic female athlete is [ __ ] built because that's their job. Yes. Those [ __ ] have muscles and they're all girls. That looks like a man, you little liberal. So wait a minute. You're saying I'm saying big mics a man. small shoulders and no muscles is more feminine? No, I didn't say that. You said bigger shoulders and muscles is masculine, looks like a man. apple. An Adam's apple counts. What? But like the things you're saying for a male. Okay, well none of these people have penises that we're talking about. Huh? There There is a to me. That's all I'm saying. Uh-huh. People people want a villain they want to attack. It specifically this is very transphobic and that is is kind of the Olympics or like sports in general is just kind of shrouded with a transphobia right now. So any woman who excels at her sport who happens to be muscular is now immediately a [ __ ] man. And it's just simply not the case. This woman the won her fight. She won the gold medal, right? Simone Biles is not a man. She has huge muscles. Yeah. That's a female. Okay. And so does this boxer. And so does uh Laurel Hubbard, like the entire rugby team, all of the swimmers, like they all have [ __ ] uh Sha'Carri, like every runner, I don't know. They all have muscles. But they physically are women with muscles. They physically don't look like men. That dude in that boxing match looked like a man to me. It's a woman. Okay. Also like the way someone looks is there are so many things that go into that. It's it's their genetics. It's potentially the way they want to look. You can have a different hairdo or pleasant demeanor, whatever. Non-binary, yeah. It None of that matters. Your physical appearance is absolutely irrelevant in this case and very much specifically your opinion of someone's physical appearance is meaningless in this. Can you at least accept that? Yeah. So why'd you ask me the question? That was a man that beat a woman. There you go. I I I I I I I I I asked you the question because on this podcast that we've now been doing for I think 2 years roughly. And wait a minute. Wait a minute. Who hasn't missed a single episode? It's you. We all know this. Thank you. But I'm saying the reason I asked you the question is because the format of the show is we we talk about the big kind of political, social issues of the week and this was one of them. This is one that people came out of the woodwork on on the right being like, "Oh, this is a travesty. The Olympics is a sham. Blah blah blah cuz a man's fighting in this." And what I'm trying to lay out here is evidence to say that is not true. It's actually it's it's literal Russian propaganda that is now being sucked into the American right-wing, which has been the case since Trump got elected. So who do you want to believe, yeah? The lies or the truth? You know what? Um I have to share this with you. Remember when you were saying uh J.D. Vance and the couch and the dolphins and all that and how you couldn't believe I don't see that on the computer and blah blah blah. I talked with my grandson who is a very very intelligent. He said, "Mimi." He called it a um oh god, I forgot the word now. A bubble. Um it's not a visual bubble. It's a Oh god, what was the word? Anyway, it's this bubble that on your computer you're going to see different things when you put in a search than I am because of somehow the bubble and the location that both you and I live is different. Sure. I And I tried it. I put in J.D. Vance. I never saw anything about a couch. I never saw anything about a dolphin. And Roman was here that Roman was here that day and he he uh called it It's when we ate at Hideaway Pizza. He called it some kind of a bubble thing. I get what he's saying and it also has to do with what you're searching and and the things you're looking at online. You get fed media that kind of reinforces whatever your habits are. So if you're looking at a bunch of right-wing stuff, that's what it's going to give you when you're doing Google searches. me if I if I Googled him, I should see that pop up and I never did. Yeah, well that I I I have no accounting for that, but it's clear that J.D. Vance is a liability now to Donald Trump. Is that penetrating your bubble? No, it is not. I think he's excellent and he'll be good. He's going to be good. even gave an interview this week where he was asked about J.D. Vance and and is he good or bad for the campaign and he Trump basically said the vice president doesn't even matter. It has no effect on the presidential race. So he's already distancing himself from that choice saying like, "You're not voting for him, you're voting for me." And people are still thinking that they're going to axe him soon, which if they do that and get a new VP in there, do you think that invalidates some of their argument against Kamala Harris being a replacement for Biden? I don't know. I didn't hear that they're going to get rid of him. I don't think they'll do that. Yeah, I don't know. Every time that guy goes on TV, it is just worse and worse. The thing about the single cat women, the thing now he's saying parents should have basically more of a vote than people who are not parents, and that parents should be able to their children should be able to have a vote, but the parents get to decide what that vote is. He essentially is disenfranchising any voters who don't have kids, which is like half of the electorate. Mhm. Mhm. I don't know. of this. I haven't heard none of that. All I've heard is I like yellow school buses. And all her dumb saying. J.D. Vance is just He's a liar. Like all of the [ __ ] that's come out he had a best friend in college that was trans and they have like [ __ ] text message trails going back and forth about how he supports this best friend and like the entire [ __ ] movement. Now he does not. Um his wife I believe is Hindu. Mhm. And he is crusading for Christianity. Uh I mean he's a flip-flopper, he's a [ __ ] liar. Every time he comes on TV it's like a Tik Tok goldmine. He's just doing it for political advantage and and potentially for fame, I guess, because I do think it will I just don't think there's such thing as like bad press in American politics. We've witnessed it with with Trump. And I think the same is true of J.D. Vance. We're talking about him right now on this podcast. Everybody's talking about him. He's all over the internet. I didn't know who this guy was a month ago. Now he's super famous. He can get book deals after I mean he already probably could, but um you know, if he wants to have a show on some cable news channel after this, I'm sure he could get that. He's already written a book that got turned into a movie. Yeah, it was a big bestseller. He's already a very accomplished author. But um all right, so you don't know anything about J.D. Vance sinking the Trump-Vance ticket. No. All right. Are you aware of Trump backing out of the next debate that was scheduled for September 10th on ABC? Yeah. they said he was going to do it. I thought they said he was going to do it. No, he said he wants to have it on Fox News on September 4th, but he's now like she's not going to show up to it. She's scared. He's now trying to use that argument even though he's the one who is refusing the original debate that was already scheduled on ABC for September 10th. The original debate was scheduled to be with Biden. But why not debate her? She's now the candidate. I'm sure he will, but he wants to do it on Fox, too, he said. But why not just stick to the thing that's already scheduled? I don't know. Have to ask him. All right. A strong a strong rebuttal. You know, y'all are like blowing this out of proportion. He's going to kick her butt big. Dad and I really are not worried about this at all. We really aren't. You're not worried about the amount of money she's raised? She's crushed him. $200 million. dollars. It's more than that now. It's more than that. Let me see how much she's raised. Hang on. You're wrong there. You know what? The first 100 was given to her because that was out of Biden's stash or whatever. That was the stash that they got if they went with her for that Isn't it 321 million now? Uh I'm looking at a thing from two days ago that's 310 million. Kamala Harris raised 310 million in July dwarfing Trump Hall for the month. It doesn't matter. Really? What matters is every time she goes in public and opens her mouth right now. The fact She's killing herself every time she goes out in public. The things that she says and stuff. Like what? I'm not worried. Um Let's see. One thing is this was a few years back she talked about kids in college, you know, they have to live in dormitories because they're so stupid. Right. We've all heard it. But Donald Trump also said I'd date my daughter if she wasn't my daughter a few years back. So I mean if you want to compare, let's compare. Whatever she said, it's just locker room talk. Doesn't matter. Oh, that's locker room talk. locker room talk. Mr. Liberal. I remember standing in the living room in the house you and Dad now live in in 2016, that October when the October surprise was the Access Hollywood Trump tape. I grab them by the [ __ ] I don't even wait. Oh god, here we go. Here we go. Do you remember that? Billy Bush, all that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, he said that. I'm standing in your living room while this is going on, and I remember asking you are you still going to vote for him after he said that? And you said to me, it's just locker room talk. You repeated the phrase that he he told you all to say, and you repeated it back to me. Okay. Dismissing this entire thing essentially. So you're saying Kamala Harris is saying stupid [ __ ] Okay. But grab them by the [ __ ] Grab them by the [ __ ] has nothing to do with other human beings' lives. Like What? She was She was supposed to go She was supposed to go to our border to save people's lives. He's admitting that he sexually assaults women for fun. They asked her, have you been to the border? She goes, I haven't been to Europe, either. Uh-huh. She hasn't been to the border, she hasn't been to Oh my god. And she hasn't sexually assaulted anyone and bragged about it on camera. She did live with Willie Brown, I think that was his name, and he did come out and say she's a chameleon. She will do whatever it takes. She will say she's black, she'll say she's Indian to get ahead. She'll do it. Okay. And she will do any favors she needs to do to get to the top, too. And so that that. Okay. And so that makes you feel about her that she is not qualified to be a president because she will do whatever it takes to get to the top? I think she's not qualified because I have seen nothing she has done for our country to this point. Nothing. In regard to the border, in regard to anything. Yeah. So your hot your hot button issue when you go to vote this November is the border. Border will be one and and um inflation probably will be one and border will be number two. Mhm. She's done nothing to help either one of those situations. Neither has Biden. Right. And I the thing that I can't wrap my head around I guess is you're unwilling to even accept when these numbers are thrown at you. She's got $310 million. Um I've heard Soros' money probably. That's probably from George Soros and and his son. Trump raised 138 million. It's not It's not. Most of it is from first-time donors who are way under the the cap for what a donor can give. I posted a [ __ ] Tik Tok of these cookies we made that said Kamala is rat. It went viral on Tik Tok because that [ __ ] audience just using the hashtags like Kamala Harris and brat and Charlie XCX, that [ __ ] went viral because there is an entire [ __ ] age group that is going to vote for her. And she has locked that [ __ ] in. She's going to win. She's got If it's fair and square, she's going to win. Oh, it'll be fair and square when she gets out a little bit more and opens her mouth and acts stupid and dumb and they ask her have you been to the border? She cannot say anything dumber than what Donald Trump has already said. You tell me why you would vote for her. What has she done for you? For our country? She's not Donald Trump. What has she done for our country? But here's what's happening with her. It's There's an excitement about her. It's like what Haley's saying here. The youth is behind her and that was a chunk of the voting block that was not going to vote at all Voter registration Voter registration is up for first-time voters, that's young people. Um all of the people that were on the fence who did not want to [ __ ] vote are now voting for her. Let's hope the young voters are smart and they're not stupid and have to live in dormitories. And let's hope that they see through her. More than 3 million donors have made over 4.2 million contributions with more than 2 million donors making their first donation to any political candidate in this Kamala Harris uh administration or her campaign. Happy for them. Does not scare me. She met with We still don't know who her VP pick is, but she met with Buttigieg like not that long ago. That would be That'd be funny. Why? Why is that funny? Let's see. How many days before he went to up in Ohio where the people are getting cancer now from that toxic spill? Didn't even go there, didn't give a [ __ ] Mhm. This going to places is what you said to me. she didn't go to the border. You have a hang up with like she didn't go to the border. Yeah. didn't go to the crisis. Well, where was Donald Trump? I don't know. Why didn't Donald Trump go to the [ __ ] crisis? Why Why Why what? have those people in office if they don't give a crap about the United States? Well, he did. even go to the January 6th insurrection. And he was going to say nice speech. So, they they both they both believe in things that that I believe in. Like, uh you know, that our [ __ ] world is on fire because we pollute the [ __ ] out of it. They want to counteract all of that. Donald Trump wants to eliminate federal agencies and just let it burn. No, he doesn't. How about How about the part where our country was um we had oil, we had gas, we were sustainable, everything was going great until Biden gets in. He shuts down all of the fracking, he shuts down all of the Because that is killing our planet. Now we're buying Okay, now we have to buy those from other countries and depend on them? There's there are clean resources now. We have all different kinds of things. Oh, how many people do you know can buy an electric car, Haley? How many people do you know? Wait, that's your argument now? Now you're on the side of of not the non-1%ers? I don't understand. They want us all to have electric cars. We can't do that. People can't afford that. You can buy a hybrid for the same price you can buy a regular car for right now. tell the people right now that are struggling to put food on the table that they need to buy an electric car so that our country can now be green. Not going to happen. Uh it's not like a mandate that you would have to buy an electric car, but certainly putting certain or something is what Biden Biden was saying. By the year something. Yes, it was. Whatever. I This this argument that you're making is very bizarre to me and I don't know where it's really going. My main question was was really this. It's like I'm curious about your um your adherence to this this idea that Donald Trump is going to win a landslide victory. He is. At this point, all evidence is pointing to that not being the case. I would say at the very least, you're looking at a very close race presidentially No. in the country. And it may come down to these as it does pretty much every uh election, these swing states and maybe even a couple thousand or or tens of thousands of votes in those swing states or in the the important counties, you know? Did you see the [ __ ] that Did you see the [ __ ] where Rachel Maddow was talking about those swing states and how they're like stacked with all these delegates that he has put there? You might want to look that article up cuz she was basically arguing that this may not be a fair [ __ ] election that they may stall stall stall and not count the votes in some of those swing states. Yeah, I mean, that may be the case. I don't know. I also I'm like, it's cable news. Their their bread and butter is like, you better be scared of something. And now that it looks like the Democrats are going to destroy Donald Trump, there's still something to be scared about. Tune in so I can make you scared. I'm so I'm so happy y'all believe that it's not going to happen. Her What's the word? The honeymoon phase with horse face will be over soon when she starts opening her mouth and giving her She's already doing that. Yeah, and she's flapping up there like an old bird. No, honeymoon phase will be over soon. Democrats response to laugh and Kamala is that Trump doesn't laugh at all. I find that to be scarier or weirder, should I say? That was a thing that popped up this week. The weirdness. Are you guys familiar with the weirdness? No. Hang on. I had an article somewhere. Belcher bubble, that's what it was called, I think. He called it. On July 23rd, Tim Walz, who is the governor of Minnesota, um went on MSNBC's Morning Joe and he called the Republican leaders weird. He said um "We don't like what's happened. When you can't even go to Thanksgiving dinner with your uncle because you end up in some weird fight, that's unnecessary. Well, it's true. These guys are just weird." And he has that that word weird has now been sucked into the the Democratic uh thought chamber. And I watch a bunch of like little YouTube independent journalists and stuff a lot from both sides of this argument just to kind of see what's going on in YouTube. The day after that, they were all saying it. These aren't even people that are like on MSNBC or CNN or in the mainstream media in any way. They're just running their own YouTube channels talking about politics. They're all saying like, "Yeah, J.D. Vance is weird." And no no no no no and weird weird weird. But for whatever reason, it's sticking. It's working. It's getting under the Republican skin. There's no way to combat it because it's the prior argument to this from the left was primarily they are a threat to uh democracy. They're going to destroy the Constitution, take down America. That never worked. It never seemed to stick. But this somehow is working. A very I wouldn't even call it an insult. Like calling somebody weird in some cases is a compliment. Some cities like Austin and I think Portland, too. Their their city motto is keep Austin weird, keep Portland weird. Now it's become this this uh rallying cry from the left. So, let me ask you, Mom, do you think Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and the Republican establishment are weird people? No, I do not. Okay. You don't think it's weird that he said he would have sex with his daughter? I think Biden is weird and I think horse face is weird. I think Biden is, too. You know what? I think he could be dead. Oh. He might be really dead. I don't think that's the case. But I agree with you, he's weird. All the child sniffing photos are very weird. I think Kamala also has uh you know, this will be our first female president. Also a woman of color. president. She's an Indian. There is a a similar kind of vibration happening that happened with Obama. Yeah, I agree. And I feel like it's it's going to come to fruition. Like we all kind of feel it. It's just blazing in. my question. This is really a question. Please. Why are you calling her a black She's not going to be your president, but you said the first black of a woman of color. She's both Indian and black. the Indian woman? She's also an woman She is both Indian and Indian and black. She's a woman of color. a black woman. She gets mad when you call her argument. It's like Obama was mixed, white and black. Right. Were you demanding that people call him the white president? I know people that didn't think he was He was not black. He was part white, part black. But it's however that person identifies. And if she identifies as both or mixed or black or whatever as what? She and it and all that or whatever. Well, it's it's it's like holding on to your cultural heritage, wanting to celebrate your culture. And so, people identify how they want to, but right now because she wants black votes. Let's Let's go down this path with you. A long time the Indian culture because her sister. Let's go down this path with you. Let's go down this path. Oh, and her bubble. leaning into that part of her identity as a black woman to get votes and win this election. Mhm. What is wrong with that? I don't understand why she's doing black. Why is she not loving on her Indian part of her side? Why How is she not? Like what evidence do you have that she's not? every speech she does, she's saying, "I'm black." Okay. even Trump said Even Trump said when he first met her, she was saying, "I am an Indian." If that's your argument, then what then why are you okay with Donald Trump getting up there and saying, "I'm not a Christian, but I love my Christians"? Why aren't you mad at that? He doesn't get up there and say he's black. No, that would be amazing. I wish he would have done that at the I am not the uh National Association of Black Journalists. He walks out and goes, "Just to let you know, I am black." She's not going to win. I know y'all have to This is like a weird non-issue that that Donald Trump has now put on to your mind. It's a non-issue. That to me is a [ __ ] matter. Yeah, the number one reason I think she's now going to win, at least in terms of like how it is how everything is right now. Who knows what's going to happen in October. There's always some big [ __ ] pops off on both sides, the October surprise. They try and sink the other candidate with like for Trump, it was the the Billy Bush Access Hollywood tape. That was his October surprise. We have no idea what it's going to be for Kamala Harris. They'll try to find something, but so far and and what Trump has been very good at is labeling his his opponents with some little moniker and that sticks and it works or or finding kind of the one thing about them that he can exploit as a negative part of their character, basically. And that works. Like with Joe Biden, Sleepy Joe, he's too old, blah blah blah. Now Trump is the oldest candidate and he's, in my opinion, uh showing some signs of mental decline. He is speaking gibberish a lot. He's meandering and rambling about things a lot. Potentially thinks Hannibal Lecter's a real person. I think that he is the one who now has to accept that on his character. Like he can't use that argument against her. Simply cannot. It's like to anyone who has two eyes. She's younger, more vigorous, and and I think she will be to me in a in a debate. But the things that she that they're trying to put on her are like she laughs and she's black. I don't know that those things stick. They don't seem to. And with J.D. Vance saying basically like single cat ladies are controlling the the Democratic electorate, it's just pissing people off. And they tried to lump her in that, too, that she's not a parent, but she is a step parent. So then every step parent in the United States is like, "I'm not a [ __ ] real parent. [ __ ] you, dude." Okay. Like you said in October, they're going to pull all kinds of things out of the closet, but it's already started and it's going to be more to her side now, I think. The first one they pulled out, which was What is today's date? Hell, I don't even know what day it is. August 4th. This was August 3rd, just yesterday. Vice President Horseface, Kamala Harris's husband, Doug, I don't know how to say his last name. F Emhoff, acknowledged Saturday in a statement to CNN he had an affair during his first marriage after the alleged details of the the relationship were published in a British tabloid. So he said, "Yes, during my first marriage I did have affairs." They're going to start pulling [ __ ] out like that, I think. matter. Who cares? Who cares? Donald Trump has paid off a porn star to cheat on his wife. Like He's had affairs left and right his entire life to all of his wives. All of his like what? Three, five wives? A lot. I was saying Donald Trump has five children with three women and he cheated on all of those women. And he's paid for sex. is they're going to they're going to dig deep into her and we'll see what they pull out of her. Those types of things that you're talking about, they are not going to It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because Donald Trump is on the other side of that argument. You can never really What's that? I know what Go I know what we need to bring up. You said I should bring this up. Yeah. People on YouTube on the comments are accusing you of taking things down. Taking comments down. Yeah. For everybody out there who listens to and watches this show, I never take down a comment. If your comment got removed, YouTube did that. So whatever you might have said, I don't know, it was against some kind of YouTube policy or whatever. I don't I really even read the comments, honestly. But um I read them sometimes. Yeah. I read them. Yeah. I I did see that one after you brought it Oh, bless you. Thank you. allergies Are you a cat man? I Yeah, I am a single I'm a cat guy. Cat You're a cat guy. What's the opposite of a cat lady? Cat man. With allergies. Yeah. I'm a I'm an unmarried You're not single. I'm not single, but I'm unmarried, so I'm technically single and I am childless and I am a cat man now. You're just a childless cat man. Yeah. I literally am. That's a good one. With allergies. I just meant single legally. I'm not I'm not legally bound to another human being. man. I don't even know Haley, get on the rap. Come on, you need to make one up. This is This is what I wanted Can you just scat? I'm the cat man. Meow. I'm a single scat man. Meow. is it? I'm a childless scat man. Meow. All right. It's a nice nice improvisational musical session. Um what I wanted to to ask you, and I'm still not getting a good answer about this, is like do you accept that she has raised way more money than Donald Trump? Do you accept that as fact? for her. That's fine. It's George Soros' money. I don't give a [ __ ] She ain't going to win. feel the You don't feel the momentum that she is building. Well, I feel like yeah, I see her on TV now. I think I just don't like her and I think the honeymoon phase will be over soon. I really kind of was on boat with Dad that he thought they would yank her if she didn't get numbers up. They would yank her and go with someone else. She already has like pre-pledged delegates. She's got it. It's over. Yeah, I know. When is the DNC? It's coming up. Is it next week? Not August something, but I saw on 10th, I think, in Chicago. It's Monday, August 19th through Thursday, August 22nd. Yeah, that'll be interesting to see if we have that one Who's the one that she had at some rally? I don't even know these people's names. It's a black lady that was up there shaking her booty and singing about Shaking her booty. and singing about body parts. Megan Thee Stallion. Uh-huh. And talking about all kinds of really bad [ __ ] up there. Donald Trump had all kinds of nasty words, nasty words. And you're not understanding something. This That's what I'm comparing it to. How about Kid Rock? I'm a [ __ ] Kid Rock. I didn't like him. I will tell you that. I didn't think he should have been up there. I didn't like that. This idea that anything matters anymore in American politics other than who is the bigger internet celebrity is it's just wrong. Policies don't matter in the election anymore. They matter once you get into office, like how you're actually going to write laws and what bills you're going to get passed and who can you actually get from the other side to support whatever your ideas may be. That all matters once you're in the office, but to win that election in American politics, you have to just win this internet celebrity contest and she is crushing him right now. Every time he shows up on something, he looks bad. He looks stupid. He looks racist and it's like showing through in a way that it it doesn't I think even his base is losing steam. There's all these argument or all these articles coming out about like Republicans who are flipping and they're going to vote for Kamala. These retirement communities in Florida that there was one where all these old ladies used to drive around these golf carts for Trump. I'm sure you saw this. They switched. It's now golf carts for Kamala. So I think like the tide is turning at least on the internet and you can just feel the momentum of it. Maybe in your vision bubble, not on mine. Not on mine yet. It's not in a vision bubble. Everything has just been refreshed. Like people are now actually wanting to vote. Before it was just two old [ __ ] dudes and now it's like, "Oh [ __ ] She's smart. She's youngish. She's black witted. She's super popular. People are uh reinvigorated. Just keep talking. We'll see. you this, Mom. If she wins, what will your reaction be to that? I'll be so sad. I'll probably have a heart attack. Okay. I I don't think that'll happen, but do you think Will you accept it? What do you think's going to happen when she's president that's going to ruin your life? Everything. Everything. Give me two things. Our economy will never We will never be able to get back where we were and our country will sink. It will go under and I don't want any part of it. Bankruptcy? Fina- financially. Bankruptcy. All of the immigrants coming in that she wants to make legal citizens out of, I don't think that's right for the people that have worked their hard life all their lives here. That is not right. Just because someone is an immigrant to give them citizenship, to give them social security, health care, when there's people here that need it that have worked their whole lives in America. I don't think that's fair. And you think that will end America? It might. It might sink it. Yeah. And you do believe that she'll create World War III. Yes, I do. So does Dad. Okay. I think it's going to happen maybe even before the election. They know right now Biden is very weak. Uh what scares me is uh Russia and China together Yeah. up in the airplanes with nuclear. That scares me. So this idea of fear is essentially how Trump gets his voters. He tells you, "Here's all these terrible things. The world's going to end." I mean, you're talking about World War III now that Kamala Harris is running. So your in your head, Trump has spun it so that if she wins, it's World War III, it's financial collapse, it's anarchy in the streets, it's homelessness everywhere. It's an apocalyptic vision of what America will be if he's not president. But the truth is, none of that's going to happen. Biden won. He beat Trump. Has World War III started? And look where we're at. He can't even say the names of people that were killed in wars. How How has your life changed How has your life changed in a in a real way? It makes me not proud to live in this country anymore. Uh-huh. I want it to be better, a lot better than it was. You have read Project 2025, yes? By the Heritage Foundation. Parts of it I have. And like you understand that Trump is kind of [ __ ] aligned with this way of thinking. No, he is not. That's where you it is. I don't even know what Project 2025 is, but he does. That's a lot. does. And and he also is very proud that he got Roe v. Wade overturned. You know, part of part of Project 2025 is literally [ __ ] putting women back in their place. You can no longer be who you are, make your [ __ ] money, do the [ __ ] you want to do. You're a baby machine. You need to facilitate our [ __ ] military with people. Like they want us in the kitchen giving birth. They want to revoke [ __ ] birth control. They don't want women to have access to birth control. Have you read Project 2025? Like it's [ __ ] terrifying. Okay. And so and so you know what our country's going to be under? Who says this? This [ __ ] Republican party. Yeah. That Project 2025 What's that? Why do you think all that's real? Because it's a document that exists and all the people who are involved in writing it were part of Trump's administration in one way or another. So he's up there saying like I don't even know what it is. I have nothing to do with that. That's a literal lie. Mhm. Because they're just going to hand it to him if he's made president and they're going to be like here's what you need to do and here's how to do it and he will just start doing those things. We will see. I don't I don't I I just don't think he's going to win, but we have come to our hour. Thank you all for joining us. Sorry. who are you voting for for president? I have to vote for Trump. Thank you. But I it's a it's a wasted vote in California. Obviously, but even in the the grand scope of the national election. I just think Trump will not win, but I will satisfy my pledge to dad for his birthday present and his retirement present and I will vote for Democrats all down the ticket underneath Trump. It'll be the weirdest ballot ever cast. Oh, so you are a liberal. So you are a liberal. Yeah, I mean I I think I qualify as that. Finally, you finally spoke the truth, Mr. Mr. Um I'm anti-political if anything. I I wish that we could have This is my my utopian vision for American politics. No elected leaders whatsoever. Everything is done on a voting system where you have to pay your taxes every year and then those taxes you get to actually vote where the money gets spent. And that's that's the entire thing. And you have people who run these organizations and stuff. Maybe they're elected, maybe they It's like you just apply for a job. I'm not I'm not sure exactly how that works, but like other than needing a face for that president that has to go and have the meetings with the other presidents of the world and the other leaders and [ __ ] like that. I don't know why we have any of this [ __ ] We should all be voting for this on our phones in my have We already have federal agencies that kind of spearhead all of these things that that you know comprise what the United States is right now. And I I agree. I agree. I don't believe a president needs to [ __ ] exist. Did we not have a listener's question? We didn't because I I knew that you had a big story about dad's broken hip and everything. Maybe dad will be back next week. I I would hope so. Today was just kind of hard. Yeah. Um and we have like over a thousand listeners now, right? On YouTube. Uh yeah, I believe last week's Kamala Harris video was our first one that got over a thousand views. So thank you everybody for that. If you are just listening to this, we are on YouTube. Check those things out and we will have a listener question in the show next week. So please keep sending those in. I'd love to do a video one. If you have a question, just email me a one minute or shorter video Oh. of yourself asking the question and we can put it in the show. Uh but thank you everybody for joining us. Huh? You think anybody would actually do that and put their face on our show? I don't know. Of course. Okay. What is the thing on your bookshelf of the guy with the tool belt? Who is that? Chad, we're talking to you. Hang on. I'll get him for you. Let's give the person that does video something in a prize. What kind of prize could we give them? This is a little pillow. This is Tyler Cameron. He's the uh de facto greatest male Instagram player in the history of the Bachelor franchise. And we got me and Lizzie, the co-hosts of of this other podcast that I do called Game of Roses, we got invited to his uh premiere party of the show that he did on Amazon called Going Home with Tyler Cameron. And they had all these little carnival games you could play. And so I played one and I got this pillow of him. Very good. So we thank you for joining us, me and my Tyler Cameron pillow. Uh and before we go as always Mom, I love you despite our political differences and I'm glad dad is home and okay. I know that this has been a rough week for both of you guys and I'm glad that you're you know, at least back on the mend. Not through it completely, but in a better place than you were, you know, whenever you were sending contextless pictures of him on a stretcher going to what I thought was going to be his death. to even text. It was bad. It was bad. Mom, I love you. Kaylee, I love you. Dad, I love you. Tyler Cameron, I love you. I love you. Tell dad I love him. Chad, I love you. I love you both, Chad, Kaylee, and Mr. Bob. We will see you next week. Bye.