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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coulter. With me is my sister, Haley Pope. We are the only two members of our family who are not in the Trump cult, I guess you're going to call it, right? And my mom and my dad, Bob Maryl, who are firmly in the Trump cult, high ranking members. They have every member of his paraphernalia, even his cologne. Hello. Yes, we do. Hello. Okay, we have a big show today. Mom, we're going to get to your diddies, but I just wanted to give a quick overview of all the things we're going to cover in today's show. The breakup between Trump and Musk, the LA protests, Musk installing secret Starlink connections in the White House, Trump tweeting Biden is a robot, Ukraine's stunning military victory over Russia, and Kilar Abria Garcia is back in the United States. We're going to be talking about all that today, but mom, uh, do you have some diddies for us to begin the program? Yes, I have a couple. Uh, Trump, I told you this would not go away and you guys didn't believe me. Trump is calling for an investigation into the use of the auto pen, the old auto pen. It's not going away. There has been a subpoena issued and has been sent to his attending doctor. What do you guys think will happen with this that they're Biden's medical records? a doctor being subpoenaed uh in regard to autopin in regard to I guess his overall well-being. It's not in regard to autopin. I think it is specifically about did you know that Joe Biden was unfit to be president or whatever. Something along those lines. But they use the and they use the auto pen to have things signed. Trump uses an auto pen without him knowing it. Well, all presidents use an auto pen. Okay. But not always. They use it like to sign Christmas cards or they use it to sign invitations. Okay. Not important documents like pardons, I don't think. So what I feel is everybody Jill needs to come in, the staffers, anybody that was in his close circle, they all need to be questioned. That's that's what I feel. Put them all under oath and ask him, yeah, did you use the auto pin for him during this time? whatever. And he didn't even know it. Nobody cares. Well, Dad and I care. I care about the subpoening of a president's medical records because then I want the other thing to be true, too. I want to subpoena Trump's medical records. Yeah, it should all be in the open. Nobody should be lying to us. Okay. My second diddy, the former White House uh press secretary, pig me. Okay. I asked him not to say that. JP J KJP uh she has a book out please don't say that just let it go. She has a book out called Moving Forward. And um and then she has another one coming out in October called Inside the Broken White House. Now she's also flip-flopped. She's no longer a Democrat. She is an independent. Imagine that. I didn't believe anything she ever said up there. And she'd always say, "Now, we'll come back to it. I'll come back to it after I get more information." Now, the funny part is, are we gonna believe anything in these books? I'm not. Are you? You've already made that determination. I think you'll believe it if she comes out and says Biden was a terrible piece of [ __ ] and he wasn't fit for office. You'll believe that, right? Well, I don't know. I think she's now in it for the money. She's trying to sell a book. My god, she's only been out of the White House how long and now she's in it for money and selling books. Okay, my last and my diddy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying it's bad that she's in it for money? You literally have a shrine devoted to Donald Trump filled with products you have bought from him, right? But that is for his campaign and that was for his campaign and to move him forward. His campaign. Elon Musk paid for his campaign. What? That money went right into his pocket. I don't know. It went to the um So you say no, it did not go into his pocket. Where do you think all the money's going now that he's the president and there is no campaign? I'm not buying his cologne now. He's I've already got it. He's uh sacking up all the other Republicans for the next election. Election. Okay. Okay. Jeez, my diddies are kind of uh serious ones. Even though I'm in a pretty good mood, it's hot as crap here today. And thank you both for being on time because as soon as this podcast over, I've got to run out to shiny. We're getting really bad storms again tonight. Okay, this is my last diddy. And this is the most scariest one. As I've gotten older, I get scared about a lot of things. I don't know why. I probably need to be on medication for my anxiety and being scared, but this one really scares me. Two Chinese nationalists were arrested smuggling into our country a fungus. And I it has a big scientific name, but I didn't write it down. This fungus, if unleashed, University of Michigan, it was the University of Michigan. Well, she works there, but he works back in China at a place, but they were both coming into America. If that fungus is released, it will it can kill all of our food crops, corn, uh, wheat, rice, barley, anything into our food system. And then us and then we have a last of us situation. The last of us. This is called like um they called it agra agot terror terrorism or biological pathogen terrorism and they this next week will go before uh a court system to see what they're going to do with them. How many years they're going to spend in jail? Thank god they caught him. They they were smuggling that fungus into the United States. They are not Americans. They're Chinese nationalists. I wonder how many other people have smuggled stuff in with our open borders. World War II secured the borders. How did this happen under his watch? It makes me want to grow our own our civil war start today in LA. Well, that was going to be a question that I'm going to ask a little bit later. But if Trump secured the borders, how are these Chinese nationals able to smuggle in a a boweapon like that? Is there students at University of Michigan? Okay. No, she was not. She was working there, I thought. Let's move on. Thank you for your daddy's mom. Uh, we like to begin our program with a question from a listener. If you've got a question, just record it in a one minute or shorter video format and send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Are you ready for today's question? He's sitting over here just going, I don't know, Jesus. All right, here's our question. Hi, thank you so much for the pod and for publicly having the necessary conversation. I read some terrifying hypotheticals with regard to AI. Now, no matter how I play it out in my head, I reach the following conclusion. This is game over. So, Chad, Haley, Mary Lou, and Bob, do you think AI will destroy us? Thanks. Wow. There you have it, Chad. We couldn't we couldn't see her. Was that okay? There was no video. Okay. It was just Please send in video clips. I prefer those. What? It'll take It'll take years, but eventually I believe. Yes. You think AI will destroy humanity? Yes. Mom, will AI destroy humanity? I don't know. What AI will get us? I don't know. Haley, I don't think it's going to destroy uh I think we will destroy us. I think there's going to be like a complete division of social class. I think that only the wealthy are going to live forever. So, I don't think AI will destroy us. I think we ultimately will use it to destroy ourselves. 100%. AI is simply a tool. the fear around it. Um the basically anyone that I know in my personal life has a very strange fear of what is simply a tool. The people using AI, the people building AIs for specific purposes, those are the people that are either using it for ill or not. The good side of AI is countless medical advances, material science advances. There's all kinds of really good things being done with artificial intelligence. There are also things like what Elon Musk and Peter Teal are doing uh at Palanteer that are literally like super villain [ __ ] where they want to create a giant database with everybody's information so they can start segregating people into class systems controlling what information they get and really rewrite how global sociology is uh is laid out. So the answer is no. AI will not destroy us. AI is simply a tool. It's like asking if a hammer would destroy us. Wait a minute. That's your opinion. That's not the answer. It is the answer. Okay. What about this? What is that? There's a dog screaming in the background. Yes. Conrad just got home. It's literally going to go on for like an entire minute. Okay. U But Chad, what was that? You said like uh when when I die or when dad die. Well, probably when I die because dad's never on social media. All my stuff. We have how many hours of footage of him on this very show? Okay. Well, but I'm more I am on different social medias more than he is. But anyway, you used to tell me all of that will be in a little box. Remember this story? Well, no. I mean, already AIs can use all the data that you're putting out there and kind of recreate a version of you in a chatbot now, but I would say within a couple years there will be full motion video that will be you will not be able to tell it's not you. You'll be able to be able to have a conversation with yourself. But where does all that stuff go? Where does all this go? Huh? What do you mean? Where does it go? Where where where will my um Instagram account go? Where will my It'll stay right there. Unless someone deletes it, then I'm Yeah, but even that like you can't delete anything off the internet. H Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Ever. What are you talking? Okay, let's move on to our first topic. Thank you for your question again. If you want to send us one one minute or shorter video clip to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Our first topic is the breakup. This week saw the most public breakup perhaps in human history between Elon Musk and his girlfriend Donald Trump over a disagreement about Trump's big beautiful bill. That's demeaning. That's not his girlfriend. The girls fresh off his black eye. You're really going to hate the thumbnail I'm going to make for this, but I'm not going to tell you what it is until tomorrow. You'll get to see it. Fresh off his black eye final Oval Office press conference where Trump gave him a magical golden key and a promise that Doge would still be an important part of the US government, Musk fired off the following tweet at 1:31 p.m. on Tuesday. Quote, "I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous pork filled congressional bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it." Over the next three days, Musk escalated his trolling of Trump to include a poll asking whether a third party should be started in America that quote actually represents the 80% in the middle. To which 80.4% said yes. Claiming that Trump would have lost the election without him and even going so far as to make the accusation that Trump is in the Epstein files and that's why they haven't been released. Trump of course got easily baited into answering back multiple times both online and on camera. In a post to truth social he said Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. Parenthesis that he knew for months I was going to do. And he just went all caps crazy. Uh, Trump also tweeted, "The easiest way to save money in our budget, billions and billions of dollars, is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it." Musk then threatened to decommission his spaceship that is used by NASA to take astronauts to the ISS. Musk has since deleted some of his various tweets, but the feud is still very much alive with Trump on Friday telling NBC News that if Musk starts donating to Democratic candidates, he'll have to pay the consequences for that. Yeah. Mom, do you think Elon Musk is still a genius? Yes, I No, I don't think he's a genius. I think he's more of a savant. Like he is out of this galaxy. Uh very intelligent. Yes. He's very smart, but he doesn't have social skills and emotional skills are a little bit out there to making a huge mistake to where he did make a mistake here. I do think what was the mistake? Yeah, three days of non-stop tweets. Trump has more power. Here's here's the bottom line. You You think Elon Musk is the richest man in the world? No, he's not. Donald Trump is. He commands trillions of dollars. So, you think that what Elon Musk was doing was absurd? I think I think the behavior was what he did back to Trump was very bizarre. But what about what Donald Trump did in response equally as juvenile? No. Perfect. What did Donald Trump do in response? All the tweets, all the the I mean, he talked about Elon Musk for like eight minutes in a press conference that was not supposed to be about Elon Musk. Yeah. He got trolled hardcore and he took the bait. Oh, god damn. Elon Musk will what? It doesn't matter. Okay. What? What? What? He He wanted to say something. Go ahead. Say it. Why do you do this thing like you're a little kid? Say it. It's not like I'm a little kid. Every time I try to make a point, you start running your mouth. You are the person on this show who talks over everyone else all the time. I'm doing it right now. Right. Tell me your your point you were trying to make. No, I'm doesn't matter. You've all said it. Oh my [ __ ] god. Okay, my question is this. I'm gonna ask you a direct question, Dad. Hopefully, you will answer it. Dad, do you think Trump is in the Epstein files? No. Why? Because he never flew to the Islands or any of that [ __ ] I think he took an airplane ride from uh Florida to New York once that you know of. Well, that you know of Okay. that anybody knows of. You don't know anymore. You're just full of [ __ ] Okay. But why haven't we seen So, they made this big press conference with all these influencers and said like, "It's coming. You're going to see the files." We still haven't seen what's [ __ ] going on. And now Elon Musk is saying find out that Musk is on it. Elon Musk is saying he's [ __ ] in it. I get to finish my whole spiel before both of you start talking again. Wrong. I did not speak over you once. Over here yaking. I didn't speak over you once. I made a very conscious effort to not do that. You'll see that when you watch this episode tomorrow. Um, okay. So, Mom, do you think he's in the Epste files? I think Trump's name there's like how many documents in that file? 20,000. I have no idea. I'm sure Trump's name is somewhere in those files along with very other high people that will be in there, but that doesn't make them all pedophiles. And it doesn't mean that he flew on an airplane to the island to be a pedophile. But Joe Biden, okay, Biden's name might be in there. Obama's name might be in those files. Who cares? Great. Let it out. If it doesn't matter, then who cares? Okay. But if it if it it had Trump in there as being the pedophile, as being on the island, don't you think that would have already blown way open to where he never became a president? They don't have that on him. They don't have it. I mean, he's already been convicted of 34 felonies and of sexually assaulting multiple women. No, he hasn't. Didn't serve. It didn't even affect how you see him. So would this if he was on that island? If he did this [ __ ] would that affect how you perceive Donald Trump? If he did what [ __ ] If he was a pedophile, sure. If he did it with little kids, sure. Nobody should do that. He's openly said he wants to date his own daughter. He didn't date his own daughter. I guess you can say that. You think that's Does that mean you've committed a crime? No, I'm not saying that it means you've committed a crime. I'm saying it's evidence leaning toward pedophile. Oh. Oh. Uh, I don't agree with you on that. And what I'm saying is if they really have the stuff on him, why haven't they blown it up already and gotten him out of there and let Vance take over? They don't have it. That was Elon Musk being a baby throwing that out there. It was stupid. He's probably on the list. He could be. And I think that's what made Trump mad back at him. And then I I do think a turning point with me in one thing. You two better get understood right now. Yeah. Yeah. I I never get to finish. I get to talk for like 30 seconds and then it's over. You just steamrolled mom. She was in the middle of a [ __ ] sentence and you just [ __ ] blew right through. with the fact that the richest man in the world is Donald Trump, not Elon Musk. And Leon Musk is gonna he's going to lose more money than Jesus. He will lose money. He's going to go broke. All right, let me ask you this. Um, Dad, do you think this feud with Leon Musk is hurting Elon and stop it hurting the Republican voting base? No, I think it's solidifying it. He's going to become he's going to become evil, nasty, and everybody in the Republican party and especially Maggots are going to hate his guts. Mom, do you what do you think about that? Is the feud with Elon Musk hurting the Republican voting base? No, I think it's going to help it. H. So what is actually happening is Elon Musk has a bunch of loyalists, specifically and mainly young white men who are on Twitter listening to him like a god. Already they are turning on Trump because their base ideology is a troll ideology and they see that this pisses off Trump. I think there is a nonzero chance Elon Musk starts donating money to Democratic candidates just to piss Trump off his legion of followers follow. That's already been determined. That was a tweet already and Donald Trump said, "You better not." Well, we'll end up giving him more money. I think what I was going to say earlier, my turning point was when Elon Musk brought the little one. What's his name? Xpie dude. What's his name? The little one. Yeah. X904. Yeah. That's not nice. X into the into the Oval Office that day and X said whispered under his breath, "You're not the president." Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. One of these tweets that Elon Musk put out said, "Trump is going to be out of here in three and a half years, but I'm going to be around for another 40 plus." Do you think, Dad, do you think Elon Musk will outlast Donald Trump in American politics? No. Not a chance. Do let me ask you this. Do you think Elon Musk will outlive Donald Trump? Probably. Okay. So then he probably has a good shot of outlasting him in politics, I would say. Well, maybe maybe not. There's there's more than one way to die. H What does that mean about Musk is taking a big risk? Oh yeah, people are going to be taking shots at that boy. I do see what dad saying. He He's going against Trump bad. Yeah. Well, you know what? And Donald Trump said, "I wished he would have uh shown me this side of him earlier, too." I think what happened, they became friends. He got very close to Trump. As he became closer, he wanted more and more things to go his way. Trump said, "No, we're doing it this way for our country." And then, you know, the was it the EV tax and all that pissed him off. And that's when the they split the sheets. But as of two hours ago, they want to um he Musk wants to try to contact Trump and Trump won't have it. Seriously, mom needs to get out of here early. So, okay, let's go. We're talking. What the [ __ ] Yes, we have three minutes. I have one more question about this. I'll ask you, Dad. What? Elon Musk's job in the government was head of Doge to find waste and fraud. Big deal. It's not now. He is tweeting. He's not the head of Doge anymore. He's tweeting a lot, Chad. Are you going to let me talk? Maybe. He's tweeting that the big beautiful bill is going to raise the deficit. It's a bad idea. This is the guy that Trump hired to find waste and fraud to bring our deficit down. He's saying this bill is going to add to it. How do you reconcile that? I don't believe Musk. Okay. But you did. You did until this feud. No. Yes. Yes, you did. Both of you right [ __ ] saying going to raise it was going to raise the deficit. No, you were all Now that he has Now that he has, I don't believe him. All right. Um, well, let's move on. That's I mean, I thought it would go something like this. You love Musk until Trump is in a fight with him. Now everything he says is wrong. No, I I still think I still think he's very brilliant. I do. He's like crazy brilliant. He knows so much more things than the average person because of his brain, but he doesn't know social skills. He doesn't, you know, he's not very good at that. Forget all that. Forget all that. Do you think he's right about the big beautiful bill being bad for the American? No, I think it's going to be good for our country. It's going to set us on fire. So that's what I'm saying. Up until this point, you agreed with every financial decision he was making for the American economy, the American financial situation. But now he they're in a fight. Uhhuh. They're having a little lover's quarrel. Now he's a [ __ ] Oh Jesus. Okay, let's move on. This week, our second topic is the LA protest. This week, ICE launched a wave of raids in Los Angeles, resulting in 44 arrests with a total What? Let Chad finish. You can't complain about being interrupted and then interrupt me every 30 seconds. This week, ICE launched a wave of raids in Los Angeles, resulting in 44 arrests with total ICE arrests in the city, reaching 118 for the week. May major protests over the raids occurred outside the federal detention center in downtown LA, in the fashion district, and in Paramount with demonstrators also briefly blocking the Hollywood Freeway. The protest became less than peaceful when protesters threw chunks of concrete, rocks, glass bottles, and it's being reported that somebody even threw a Molotov cocktail. Federal agents escalated the situation with stun grenades, pepper spray, flashbang grenades, tear gas, and less lethal munitions to disperse the crowd. Two protesters were arrested for assaulting officers with additional arrests for failing to disperse. Pete Hgsth threatened to send in active duty Marines from Camp Pendleton, and Trump tweeted, "Great job by the National Guard in Los Angeles after two days of violence, clashes, and unrest. We have an incompetent Governor Nuskum and Mayor Bass. And he put Nuscum in parenthesis and Bass in parenthesis, but Bass is her real last name. These radical left protests by instigators and often paid troublemakers will all caps not be tolerated. Also, from now on, masks, all caps, masks will not be allowed to be worn at protests. What do these people have to hide? Again, thank you to the National Guard for a job well done. 2,000 members of the National Guard are currently being sent to Los Angeles by Trump. So, I don't know why he's saying a job well done uh against the will of Governor Nuomo and Mayor Karen Bass, LA Mayor Karen Bass. Both saying they have the situation under control. They don't need the National Guard and they think it will only make the situation worse. Dad, you brought this up earlier. This is going to be my first question. Is this the first battle of the Civil War? Yes. And why do you think that? because they're going to they're bringing in the military. It's over, man. Those those those stun grenades are going to turn into rubber bullets, and if they don't put it down and go home, they'll become real bullets. Uh, and you're cool with that? I'm 100% behind it. I would fund the money that they need to make it happen. You're cool with the American Civil War starting in the city your son lives in. That's correct. Okay, mom. Are you good? I would have bet money this is where it would start. We kind of did. That's why I've been begging you. We've been telling you about every allong about every fifth or sixth show, please come home. I will even put it out there and say, I'll buy you a house, Chad. What? Come back. I would buy you guys a house. How much money? Can I get a house? You have a house. This is my house. Shut up. You don't live in You don't live in Civil War torn Los Angeles. What? This is my civil war. I have pride nights over you living in that damn city. I hate that. I'm not leaving the city. I'm not leaving the city. I'll tell you what happened to me when I saw this [ __ ] popping off. I was like it we've we've all everybody living in LA. All of my liberal friends constantly are talking about like what's the thing? When are you going to try to move out of the country? D. This weekend made me realize I ain't leaving. I'll [ __ ] go down with it. Why? because I don't want what is happening right now with these protests. People, specifically that community of people who these ICE raids are going on and they're just ripping [ __ ] families in half, tearing children out of their [ __ ] arms. They said, "Fuck this. The Congress is not doing [ __ ] The legal system, although they are Wait, wait, wait. Your governor is not doing [ __ ] The mayor I'm on the side of the protests. Uh-huh. I'm on the side of the protesters here. I think our governor and mayor are doing just fine. Be out there and be gunned down. I ain't got no ACL in my right knee. I can't go out there. But [Laughter] if I Thank God. If it comes to it, yes, I I would probably defend myself lethally if necessary, even against Well, who are you defending? You're not an illegal. You're not going nowhere. I I agree. I don't think it's going to come to that. But there was just something in my head that when I saw these protests, it's like these people have been watching our government do nothing to protect them and in fact from the executive branch do everything to make their lives worse. And they finally said, "Fuck it. We have to do something to protect." And so they took They're not citizens, are they? The protesters. Yeah. Who f I'm sure many of them are. How? You can't. I'm sure many of them aren't. I'm pretty sure they're illegals. All every protester you think is an illegal. That's how you're forming this in your mind. Do you think it's okay? Not all of them to [ __ ] rip babies out of mother's arms to zip tie children's hands behind their back. Do you think that shit's okay? Whether you're illegal or not, you're going to be out in the street. You get what you get. If you're out there trying to take Hang on, Mom. I'm so sorry. Hang on. I just want to address what Dad said. If you're out there in the street, you get what you get. So Ashley Babbett, who got shot in the throat and killed by cops protecting a federal building on January 6th, got what she got, right? That's right. And it was illegal. What was her getting shot? There's a big difference. What's the difference? Protest. You're trying to equate this protest to January 6. That's crazy. January 6 was far more violent. That's the dumbest thing I've heard yet. I'm just trying to get you to understand like you see lawless behavior if it's on your side as totally fine, heroic even. Hey, hey, dude. I see it as legal because it's our military doing it. What is Oh, God. Here's what I see. I see a I see people when they start when they start doing civil unrest like burning cars, taking big boulders and throwing them at the police at ICE and your mayor does nothing and says, "Bring it on. We like this." And your governor is sitting on his ass doing nothing. It's time to bring in our military. You put them down. If I lived there where you did, Chad, I would be saying, "Come on in, National Guard. Come in as fast as you can. Save me. If that was my family that I was trying to defend, I'd do the same [ __ ] thing. Well, you'd be getting a Molotov. You would be getting the Molotov and you would be getting the [ __ ] bricks. You would be getting the bullets. I just I do not understand. You have to ask yourself, at what point are you willing to actually do something about it? At what part are you willing to live in a free country? In a country, is this a free country? [ __ ] taking people off the street and throwing them in vans. No warrants, no reason. Is that a free [ __ ] country? No reason. You guys are saying that's happening. I don't believe reason. It's all over the [ __ ] internet. They're not citizens. They're not citizens. They are waiting outside with masks of [ __ ] court buildings for people who are legally going there to attain citizenship and [ __ ] pushing them in vans. They're literally just waiting for them. They're doing the right thing. They are following the legal system and they are deporting them anyway. This isn't a free [ __ ] country anymore. I don't believe that. Women in Texas are dying every day because they can't get life-saving abortions after having miscarriage. How [ __ ] free is that? Blah blah blah blah blah. Why do you do that? Is that not important? If I have a daughter that has a [ __ ] miscarriage and goes to prison, you think that's blah blah blah? Not going to happen. You always bring up abortion though, Haley. You always That's my [ __ ] reproductive rights and I don't have any. I'm free as this [ __ ] country. Move to a different state, I guess. Hang on, Mom. We're going to stop right there and I'm going to ask you this. Move to a different state. You're now bringing up states rights. Yet, this entire issue is about Donald Trump steamrolling states rights in California. Gavin Newsome says, "We don't want the National Guard. Do not send them." He said, "Fuck you. I'm doing Of course they don't. Democrats want this uproar to go on. Mom, I'm asking about states rights. You just told Haley, "If you don't like where you live, move to a different state, right?" But now Trump is not recognizing the sovereignty of the biggest state in the country. That's because it's a communist country. Look what's happened in your state. United States is communist. Yeah. California is a communist country. Look what happened with your state. The governor's not helping. The mayor is not helping both ways. You can't say for abortion it's states rights. For immigration, nope. Trump gets to do whatever he wants. What? California is not a state. Okay. Let me ask you this. It's a communist country. Okay. You you missed that part of my speech. Okay. No, I didn't. It just doesn't make any sense. So, I I'm moving beyond it. Let me ask you one final question about this. Um, do you think it would be okay for these National Guard members or potentially, as Pete Hegsth is teasing, the Marines, active duty US military to come into Los Angeles and kill someone. This is Nazi Germany [ __ ] Like, you're out of your fucking%. You We can't have a country where people are in the streets just throwing rocks, putting stuff on fire. They've got to stop. Everybody has to stop then. You need to leave. If you want to stay, do it the right way. This is all provoked. That's what you're not understanding. People then the the protest quit. There is a constitution that our [ __ ] president doesn't even [ __ ] follow. He doesn't believe in it. There are no constitutional rights anymore. He believes in they're literally breaking the law left and right. All of these protests that are going to turn into riots are provoked. They don't just go out there with signs like protesting, you know, with the intent to [ __ ] hurt people. Neither do the protesters. It escalates because you're sending in [ __ ] cops in fatigues and tanks and talking about our own military [ __ ] being used against us. What are you going to do? I'm not going to live in LA. I'm going to live in a state. If I was young enough, I'd get a gun and back up my Marines. That's what I would do. We have gotten a little heated and uh these subjects have gotten away from us, so I don't think we're going to have time to talk about Elon Musk's secret Starlink system, sadly. Okay. Uh because it is interesting, but I want to hit our simmer down. There's an event that occurred in our family that is legendary, some would say, in our family. The cornstabber incident. Now, I wanted to Oh, you're holding up some cornsters. I wanted to get from each of us our perspective on this incident and uh I'll begin to lay out kind of what actually happened and and my memory of it. We were at mom, your mom and dad's house for a Thanksgiving when Haley and I were little kids. She How old were you? Maybe seven or eight? Not even. Five, six. Yeah, maybe five. Puts me at maybe 10 or 11. Uh nine, 10, somewhere in that range. I'm turning a corner and Haley, you emerge from a hallway with those little plastic things that you put in the end of corn to eat it. You have one of those. And you just shank me right in the stomach. Two holes. I start bleeding and you run off and I'm stunned and like, do I need to go to the hospital? I have no idea what's going on. Was this thing clean? Do I now have a disease? And then I go to you, Dad, and mom. You were both in I think the little TV room there in Nanny's living room and I said, "Hey, Haley just stabbed me with these [ __ ] things and you both laughed and there was no punishment." That's that's my take on it anyway. Now, let's hear each perspective. Haley, do you have memory of doing this to me? This assault. Most of my memory, I think, is just artificially drudged up from like the story that you have been telling year after year. So I like I vaguely remember this vaguely. Okay, maybe we need to reenact it. Mom, do you remember this? Yes, I do. And why did you not punish Haley if I may ask? I didn't think it was that big of a deal. I was bleeding. I Well, I got I didn't look at you till later, I think. Was it Thanksgiving? I showed you. I immediately went in there, lifted my shirt, and said, "Look, I'm bleeding from my stomach." Maybe that's where we went wrong. We never punished Haley. Dad, do you remember this? Well, that is certainly not true. Yeah, I don't think it was any big deal. Why not? Two little holes from corn poker ain't going to send you to the hospital. Two little holes from the corn poker. All right. Well, um, I don't remember blood that much. I don't remember your blood. I don't either. I definitely was. Let's jump back into this then. Thank you for recounting those stories. We have some Biden news this week. This week, Biden was in the news again when Trump reposted this post from a user named Lij on Truth Social. I'm going to read it verbatim. There is no hashtag Joe Biden executed in 2020. # Biden clones, doubles, and robotic engineered soulless mindless entities are what you see. # Democrats don't know the difference. Hash steel, but it's stel # US steel # MAGA # maha, which is make America healthy again. Um, mom, do you believe Joe Biden is a robot clone? No. Dad, do you believe Joe Biden's a robot clone? No. So, you both disagree with Trump on this. Yes, I saw that. I thought that was quite bizarre. Different. Do you think that Joe Biden has ever been like had a body double or anything like that? I I do kind of believe that. I do believe there was a double used a couple times, Dad. No. All right. Well, that was a dud. Let's go back to the Starling thing. We might have time because that was very short. So, I'm going to try and cram all this in. This is our Starlink topic. This week, Joseph Men at the Washington Post had a story about a Starlink satellite internet terminal that was installed at the White House's Eisenhower Executive Office Building earlier this year by Elon Musk and Doge without following the standard White House cyber security protocols and without telling anyone who manages the White House communication systems. Unlike traditional White House networks which require rigorous access controls like full tunnel VPNs, MFAs, and device logging, this new Starlink guest network allows anyone on site to access Wi-Fi simply with a password. No username or multiffactor verification needed. Security analysts raised serious concerns that such a setup could enable undetected data exfiltration or hacking. Because the system was not monitored, and because device logging and full encryption controls were bypassed, several categories of sensitive data may have been sent to anyone in the world. The motivations behind Doge's push to deploy Starlink remain unclear. Dad, do you think Elon Musk is stealing sensitive US data through his Starlink connections? No. Mom, do you? No. Then why do you think he set this up? So that if things get ugly, we'll have a way to segregate who's good and who's bad. Oo. through his internet connection. Sure. How does that work? Well, like right now, we're on the internet, right? Yeah. We're good. You're bad. Oh, god. Okay. So, you don't understand even what I said. I don't think I don't I don't believe you understand what the internet is or Starlink or anything. Um, Mom, Starlink is his satellites up in the air, right? around the earth and that we all the story here is when he was head of Doge, he had his guys come in and put a Starlink access point in the White House that bypassed all normal government security standards. He didn't even tell them he was doing it. It's just there. People started seeing on their phones this Starlink guest thing pop up and they're like, "What the fuck?" So, what was it gathering? That's the question. anything he wants. Yeah. But it's still there supposedly. Yes. Charge the Doge anymore. Mhm. Doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter what he wants. This was the whole point. He set it up so even if he was [ __ ] booted out or had to leave, he's still there. Wow. Do you think he can access all the data that goes through Starlink? I hope not. Yes. Well, yeah. Not that in the White House. Lord, then then again, I go back to this question. They clearly obviously had an internet system set up before he got there that worked just fine, right? Why did he install this? And why did he do it secretly? Yeah, I don't know. It's not good. He has all of our [ __ ] So, you admit, Mom, this sounds very suspicious. Yes, it does. Dad, can you admit that? What? I just told you what I thought. that he's using his internet access to put us into piles of good and bad people. That's right. Again, I really think he came in, Donald Trump thought he was a friend. You know, they got close. They were buddies. I do think he's brilliant. They're both brilliant men, but I think he is like way out there. You also have to believe that the people that are running Doge now are more loyal to uh Trump. No must. Then they are the US government and our president. They are. And I believe they are not. And how about You're wrong though. Oh, I'm wrong. He know Trump is installing loyalists at every level of the US government so he can do whatever he wants. Musk has done the same thing in all of his companies, including Starling. So, all these little 20-year-old guys that he has going in there to do this [ __ ] and steal this information, they're the same guys that listen to him on Twitter and think he's so [ __ ] cool, they'll do anything he wants. I don't know. Peter Teal and Elon Musk have very openly been involved in groups. They Peter Teal has stated this openly many times. Uh Curtis Jarvin, all the guys who are part of the dark enlightenment. Do you do you know this political movement? Is that that the P word one the you were telling me about? No, I don't know about that. I don't know what the P word is. It's it's basically the philosophy that uh a kind of technocratic CEO needs to be installed as the ruler of the United States using technology to segregate people and say these people can have full access to an internet, these people can't. These people can have full access to healthcare, these people can't. and to really segregate out a class system that is ruled by the ultra rich. That is their end goal. They have all stated this. Part of doing that is taking all of the data that our government has, feeding it through their AI systems at Peter Tilliel's company, Palunteer to create a database of every American and then they can pick and choose who gets what, who goes to jail, who gets legally persecuted, etc., Donald Trump got his eyes opened at the end here and he's like, "This is not good." And then the black eye probably came from um what was her name? Katie that left with with Musk. Her husband was um was it's not Miller. I haven't. Yeah, Stephen. He probably punched him in the eye. All right. And then she left to go to with Musk. All right. It's all about money and power. It's just the struggle for money and power. Donald Trump Trump Trump was honest and he really thought he was his friend. He was never his friend. So you keep your friends close. Trump doesn't have any friends and your enemies close. It was about I don't think he thought he was his friend. I think he thought this is we're like a a power couple basically. Mhm. And then it was like I think he thought they were friends in the beginning. I really do. and he had good ideas and he was brilliant, but things aren't looking good. I don't think either of them thought the other was a friend. They were both using each other for whatever they were getting. Trump was getting his entire campaign bankrolled by Elon Musk basically and Elon Musk was getting access to all this data which he's feeding straight into Palunteer to make all of these different databases and AI models that are going to essentially I think take control of the United States. I I think it's already happened. I think that ship is sailed. You think Trump's gonna get rid of that red Tesla? Sure. Let's move on to our fifth topic. We have two more. I think we can get to both of them. Okay. This week, this is Ukraine's uh warfare tactics. This week, Ukraine launched a devastating attack on Russian airfields that damaged or destroyed about 34% of Russia's bomber fleet called Operation Spiderweb. Ukraine employed 117 FPV drones. Do you know what FPV drones are? Firsterson view. you wear like a little um goggles and you can like see what the drone sees. Uh it used 117 of these drones smuggled into Russia and launched from specially made cargo trucks that were parked and left for weeks near airfields. Then at the opportune moment, the walls and ceilings of the trucks opened and swarms of fully charged drones flew to their nearby targets, exploding on contact with Russian aircraft. Approximately 20 Russian bombers were hit and around 10 destroyed. According to US intelligence, damages were estimated to be around $7 billion. The cost for Ukraine, with each drone costing about $600 to $2,000, was in the $110,000 to $234,000 range. Military strategists are calling the strike revolutionary because of the cost differential. The clear and overwhelming proof that drones and drone defense are now mandatory for all global militaries. And for the first time, Russia's strategic air assets were vulnerable deep within their borders, shattering previously perceived safety. Mom, do you think Ba did you follow this attack? No, I did not. I I I heard of it though that they killed a lot of Russians. They wrecked them. Um, do you think that Ukraine could win this war? I don't know. Where did he get those drones from? Us? No. All of this was done without US aid or even We didn't even know it was happening. Wow. They just did this proving basically. Also, this is my other question. I'll ask you, Dad. Do you think that this attack proves to the rest of the world you don't need the US to back you militarily? It might prove that, but you you're missing the other half of the equation. The Russians hit him with the missiles right after that. Killed a bunch of people. I I think it's time to stop. You didn't throw that in. They showed little clips of uh the drones blowing up bombers that had tires on them. You realize those bombers were just sitting there with tires on them. Yeah. On their wings and [ __ ] They weren't going anywhere. Okay. So, they killed a bunch of Russians and the Russians turned around and launched missiles which eventually are going to become nuclear. And there is no way in hell that the Ukraine's going to be the Ukraine. It's going to be Russia. Yeah, I I know you keep saying that. You're like a politician in that way. It always escalates to some talking point. That is not remotely the question I asked. Well, that's the question. I I did. The question is, do you think this proves to the world that the United States mean the United States? That's [ __ ] Okay. Okay. So, you don't agree then? Do you say no is the answer to the question? All right. No. Um, let me ask you this. Uh, do you think now that Ukraine has done this, do you think that, Mom, we have adequate military defense against an attack like this? Probably not. Not right now. Do you think we do? We've got We have to build up our military. That's what Trump's trying to do. I think that's why I'm afraid of the Chinese. You think that they could launch uh cargo drone assaults on us similar to this? Oh, they could make the Ukraine look silly? Yeah. And they will hit LA first. So, you need to move and come back home. No. He's already said he's never leaving. Yeah. I'll go down with LA if I got to. God. Okay. Haley, do you think Ukraine could win the war? I mean, this certainly kind of eludes that it's a possibility. Uh, nobody saw this [ __ ] Trojan horse coming. It was all a shock to everyone. So, I mean, it kind of proves that all you need is is [ __ ] tech and smart people to [ __ ] run it. They just came in the night. So, I mean, yeah, it was it was a shock. Well, some of these people had to they drove like semi-truckss basically deep into Russia just parked them in like the woods near an airfield and then those people those the people who drove the truck had to hightail their ass back to Ukraine. So they were doing like these deep cover kind of like operations and just parking these trucks out there for weeks and then they were like it's go time. They hit the button, the sides of these trucks fell open in the tops and these drones swarmed out and just started blowing [ __ ] up. It's kind of like badass when you think about it, you know? It's like, holy [ __ ] Totally. Yeah. It's cool as [ __ ] So, do we need to beef up our military? Doesn't seem like it. Not with people. Doesn't seem like it. Yeah. Yeah. That when this total cost for this entire attack was at the high end, $234,000 and it did $7 billion worth of damage. Mhm. All right. It's time to stop wars. Time to quit. This is getting stupid. Wait a minute. You're saying it's time to stop wars. It's time to quit. Yet, you're also saying send in the US Marines to kill American civilians. You have to have civil um obedience. Not obedience. You have to have a safe environment to live. That's why people are protesting, right? It needs to be over. Dad, do you think you're obedient to uh my uh president of the United States? 100%. A good little obedient boy. Let's move on to our final topic. Kilmar Abrigo Garcia. This week, Kilmarrigo Garcia was brought back to the United States after the Trump administration finally complied with an April 10th order from the Supreme Court to facilitate his return. But his welcome home was complicated by the Justice Department immediately charging him with conspiracy to unlawfully transport undocumented immigrants for financial gain and unlawful transportation of undocumented immigrants. Pam Bondi, who leads the case, accused him of being part of an international smuggling ring and being a member of MS-13. The indictment relies on statements from six unnamed co-conspirators, plus traffic footage, cell phone data, and financial records. Ben Shrader, the chief of the criminal division at the US Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Tennessee, where these charges were filed, resigned in protest on the day the charges were filed. One notable reason might be that the investigation into Abrigo Garcia started after the Trump administration mistakenly deported him. His defense argues the charges are baseless and politically motivated, citing his status as a family man, resident in the US for years, and never before convicted of any crime. His hearing is set for June 13th. If convicted, he could face up to 10 years in prison per count, followed by potential deportation. Dad, why do you think the investigation on Kilmar Abrigo Garcia started after he was deported? Cuz they want him back. H what? He needs to come back to the United States and be convicted. But they were claiming he was a criminal as soon as the news started coming out. Sure. But they had not yet done an investigation to prove any of that. They started the investigation again, right, after he was mistakenly deported. They had they had enough evidence that led them to believe that he was more than likely guilty. From day one, they said he was guilty. Then all the Democrats said, "No, he is not. Nothing is wrong. He should have never left. He's coming back to go to prison." And now the truth, big truth. He was involved in a lot of smuggling rings. Can you see the possibility of this? Let me just paint a little picture for you. Go ahead. Get you okay, Dad. Yeah. Yes. He gets deported. Even the government admits they did it mistakenly. Oh, I've got to get something for him. Just make keep going. He gets deported. The United States government even says this was a mistake. Then Pam Bondi and everybody comes out. He's MS-13. They're trying to justify this mistake they made. Now, in order to fully justify it, we're checking his blood sugar. He has to know how low he is. He's pretty low. In order to full in order to fully justify it, they then launch this investigation because they need to have some evidence. I mean, can we Do you just want to wait until you guys take care of whatever's going on? No, keep going. What do you want? Nothing. Let me see where it is right now. What do you got? Let me just ask you this. 50. What's it supposed to be? Above 80. Well, you better eat a [ __ ] banana. Yeah. Where's the perfect food? Yes. 118. Go ahead. Eat the banana. Eat the banana. Eat the [ __ ] banana. It's not funny. Okay, we're going to the doctor Thursday to get his diabetes on track. My question is, can you not see the possibility that they launched this investigation specifically saying we have to find some kind of criminal evidence against him to make all the bluster and all the [ __ ] lies we basically have said over the past however many months since April. We need to corroborate those. He's a trafficker. He's a criminal. It doesn't matter. He needs to go to jail. Haley, do you think he'll get a fair trial? [Music] Uh maybe. I mean, I kind of think so, too. I think so. I feel like our judicial system is still kind of with it, so I think he'll probably I mean, yeah. Uh Mom, do you what kind of what take do you have on the fact that the the lead criminal attorney in Tennessee resigned over this, saying that this is basically a political scam? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that person. And I don't know anything about that. I did I don't know. Okay. Dad, does that register with you at all? I wasn't listening. He's always uh from the very beginning though, everybody said he was not M13. Yeah, he was. He's trafficked people. They said lots of trafficking he did. I guess we'll all see how it how How many banana peels are you taking away from dad mom per day? Five. He eats a lot. Five and eight. He eats a lot. No, he eat couple. He eats a lot. Okay, let me let me say that while you're all in, I just staring at him eating his banana. Uh several ladies several ladies have reached out to me and now that we have more than five listeners uh they thanked me for last episode when I stood up for women's rights against that men should not play in sports. I was told like stories you wouldn't believe involving them involving involving their children. So thank you for reaching out to me and I'm glad that I came across quite boldly that Men should not play girls sports. Ridiculous. You're very bold, very brave. I am. Let me ask you this question, Dad. Let's say Kilmore Garcia goes to trial and is found innocent of all charges. Will you accept that? No. Mom, will you accept that? It won't happen. I'm asking you if it does, will you accept it? No. He's a criminal. Well, yeah. We'll accept whatever, but he's he's I mean, I can't change the fact that they let him go, but yeah, somebody needs to put him down. But do you not think it's like the Supreme Court told him they had to facilitate his return in April? You don't think at all that there's anything not on the up and up going on here? That they only brought him back when they had this indictment against him? What, two months? big deal, right? They they wrongfully send him uh to El Salvador. Then they claim he's a criminal. The Supreme Court says you have to bring him back. They then say, "All right, but we have to prove he's a criminal still. So give us two to three months where we tap dance and we say, "Oh, but you said facilitate that. Doesn't mean you can bring back all the little games they're playing with the Supreme Court." That buys them enough time to find their evidence, whatever the [ __ ] that is. I don't know what the evidence was always there. It was always there. But they didn't launch an investigation until after they had wrongfully deported him. That's okay. They now are using this investigation to support all the claims they made that he is in fact a criminal. Mhm. And these claims are like I don't know. It doesn't seem very likely that they're real. He's going to go to jail. Okay. Well, I guess that's it. Dad's had his banana. It's time for horses now for you guys. Yeah. Thank you everyone for joining us. Before we go, as always, we must remind each other even though there's a Civil War and Dad, you're the banana brought him back up. 122. 122. Congrats. Um, even though you're happy about the Civil War popping off in the city where I live and your uh all four US Marines coming in here and killing people, potentially me, I will say, "Dad, I love you. Mom, I love you, too. And Haley, I love you. I love everybody. Okay. Including our US Marines and Elon Musk. And Elon Musk. All right. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. Send me that link for t-shirts. Father's Day [ __ ] Fine. Send me a link, too. for Father's Day, Dad. Yeah, Haley's got it covered. We'll talk about this later. That's right. Chad, I love you. Haley, I love you. Bob, I love you. We made it 50 years. Uh, and Chad, I want you to move out of LA. I'm begging you. Please get out of that city. We'll buy you a house. Come on. Dad doesn't even know I said that, but I will. I'll buy you the house. Where will you buy me a house? One block from me. One block from me. I got to move to [ __ ] I ain't going to Oklahoma. Sorry about that one. There ain't no love. How about Colorado? Can we all move to Colorado and you'll buy us a house? I kind of I like Well, I kind of like No. No way in hell I'm living Why? You could live in the mountains. There's lots of horses there. Just like very liberal LA. I'm living in LA until the day I die. Chad, then I have to worry about hurricane sooner than you think. The bomb coming to hit you first, the riots right now. So be it. What did uh what did uh was it Jonie Ernst who said it? We all die sometime or whatever. You remember that? That happened this past week, too. Um anyways, thank you everybody for joining us. She said everybody everybody's gonna die. Yeah, I have to say one more thing. This is very bizarre. Chad and I, we kind of do think on the same path sometimes with our brains. And when I clicked open what the simmer down was, I go, "No way." Because yesterday I was thinking we hadn't talked about that and that was a funny thing in our family. And I was thinking that yesterday. I'm not kidding. I'm not trying to be weird or anything, but I just told that story in my bakery this week. synchronicities. The podcast is aligning our minds. Hopefully, it will align our hearts as well. Dad, you looked a little more peppy this week, if I may say. You looked a little happier. Really? Yeah, I think so. You were smiling a little bit when we were talking about the Cornstber story. His up upside down smile. No. Well, that's funny. We'll have to tell you off the air something. We'll tell you later. Oh my god. What? Nothing. Okay, I gotta go to shiny. All right. All right. Thanks everybody for joining us. Again, if you have any questions, one minute or shorter video format, put it in an email to the necessary conversationpodgmail.com. We'll see you next week. I tell them what we found out. No, never mind. Okay. Bye.