What are the most important issues for Maga voters in the upcoming Midterms?

Welcome to the necessary conversation midweek edition. We got three of us here. Y my sister Haley Pop. Ready for action. I'm so excited she's here. I've missed her.

Okay, we got my mom leaning into the far lower left corner of her frame. We can barely see. I'm trying to hide that,

but who cares? Perfect. This point, um, we have a bunch of clips. Mom, you've sent me, of course, as always, way more than I asked for. And I have some clips as well. I have kind of a smorgus board today um to see if we can get through to you as the midterms are approaching and your vote in Oklahoma is going to be very important. I'm trying to get you to vote blue. trying to get you to understand that at least for your the candidates for your governor spot and for your Senate seat, you are more aligned ideologically with the Democratic nominees than you are with

the Republicans. I just spoke with someone who is on um Smokeoky Joe's Cafe. What? No, this guy campaigns for Massie. He said he's there's not a problem that he will be Cindy Mson. Not a problem.

It's not about who's going to win. It's about you should be voting for the candidates who are saying they're going to do the things you want. Right.

Correct. Do you want to end the war in Iran? Do you? Yes. That's the Democrat, not the Republican in both of those cases. Do you want the Epstein files fully released and people to be held accountable? That's the Democrat in both cases, not the Republican. Do you want universal health care?

Yes. That's the Democrat, not the Republican. Do you want ICE and their current practices to end? Yes. That's the Democrat, not the Republican.

I also want boys to play boys sports, girls to play, girls. So, that one issue, there are less than 10 trans athletes currently in collegiate sports. You think that is a more important issue than the four I just mentioned?

We've gone over this. No, it's not more important, but is it is important to me. I like that. So, okay, great. So, one out of five issues

you are against the Democrats on, but four out of five you're with the Democrats. I also like being able to pick the school that you want to go to. Private school, public school, whatever kind of school you want. Um, that's massive.

Why are you just making [ __ ] up? Anyone can go to any school they want under any [ __ ] right government official. Like, that's just made up [ __ ]

And also also, Mom, okay, Mom. Hang on. Weigh the importance of these issues. You It's nonsense. It's nonsense. But it's also not as important as the war in Iran.

I like those athletes. Like, literally, nobody [ __ ] cares. Then why did she vote why did why was she like one of 17 people that voted

uh the wrong way on that the wrong way? It's such a it's like a non-issue. You you aren't understanding or hearing people when they explain to you the percentage of trans athletes that exists like in any [ __ ] grade level is so minuscule it's irrelevant. I want boys to play against boys. I want to play against Fine. Fine, Mom. Fine,

Grant. Okay, let's say that you're 100% right on this and it's a it's sweeping the nation and you've got to change this. No. Do you think

What do you want more? You want [ __ ] health care? Do you want health care or what you just said? I want boys and boys, girls and girls. What is more important? Which one?

Now you're Now you're like um what do you call it? You're making fun of me and doing no forget the making fun of. This is a valid question. Forget that part of it. What is more important to you?

Having health care for everybody or that these 10 athletes in collegiate sports are not allowed to play? What is more important to you?

Healthcare. Okay, then you should vote Democrat. But I don't like that she voted against something else that I believe strongly. That's fine. That's fine. If you vote for the Republicans, you will get your uh trans people will not be allowed to play sports and then you will be voting against your views on ICE, healthcare, the war in Iran, and the Epstein files. So, you have to make a choice. What is more important to you? Either way you go, you're not going to get everything you want. Period. There is no candidate who will give you everything you want.

So, he voted against all of that. Who is that what his voting record was? Mom, we we did this [ __ ] episode last week. I told you all of this and that just is in one ear and out the other, I guess, because of the transport

because I looked at her voting record. I need to look at I saw the trans sports thing and that erases everything we discussed. Both of these Republican candidates, the the guy who's running for your Senate seat has voted to he's already in Congress and now he's trying to get into the Senate. He has voted to fully fund ICE every time that bill has come up. He has voted to continue the war in Iran. Every time that bill has come up, they are both against your governor, your Republican governor and your Republican Senate guy are both against the full release of the Epstein files.

I told you all of this. I understand. I don't think you do. Don't belittle me. Y'all are belittling me. I'm not belitting you. I'm I'm asking you to make a choice right now. What is more important to you?

Trans athletes not getting to play sports or the end of the war in Iran changing how ICE works. Okay. You know, you know.

So, will you vote for the these two Democrats? I have not voted yet. I know that. I'm asking in the future. What are you going to vote for?

I'm not saying it publicly. What? Why? [laughter] Because not what kind of weird [ __ ] boomer [ __ ] is this? Like it's taboo to say who I'm voting for. [laughter]

All right. Who are you voting for? Making fun of me today. I wanted you back on the show. [laughter] You funded me right off the bat.

Well, it's because this is a dumb this is a dumb [ __ ] people think that we and people think this is scripted. Hilarious. Okay. This is dumb because like you you want the Epstein files released. Period.

Yes. Vote for the [ __ ] who also wants that [ __ ] It's that easy. Who are you going to vote for?

I'm going to look tonight at uh the other record, the voting record for governor. Chad and you went over this yesterday. He just

voting record. We didn't go We didn't go over their full voting records. We didn't go over their full voting records. I just hit the kind of highlights the where they stand on the war, ICE, healthcare, Epstein files, that kind of stuff.

So, right now, tit for tat, you know, they stand on these issues. I would be leaning not red, but blue. I would be, but I haven't voted yet.

All right. Well, we are gonna You're gonna vote blue. Don't you get in Don't you get in that booth and be like those transgenders though. Don't you [ __ ] dare. Just in the back of your mind.

I'm in the booth and spank me. What are you going to do? I'll be [ __ ] disappointed. I'll be disappointed. As will I. But mom, it's because we're we're talking to you here and you yourself are telling us that you're more aligned with the Democrats than the Republicans. And you keep finding these little things that are like, well, the trans athletes. You just want to hold on to something that will allow you to say, "Haha, I am against the Democrats still." But you're not. You have already expressed you are not on these issues, on the four big issues that are way more

important than trans athletes because they affect way more people. You align with the Democrats. You have admitted that. Okay. Okay. So, just take your time, do your research or whatever. Are you going to vote

on election day? Are you going to do early voting or when are you going to vote? I have early voting absentee vote v vote.

You'll mail it in. Yes. Okay. When are you doing that? When are you going to s fill out? I haven't signed it yet. I don't know.

Okay. Well, hold off on that. Um because I want to discuss it with you before you do it. I might be doing that next week. All right.

I already voted. Fantastic. I do it on the day. I like going on election day. And Miss Haley place. Did you check one box? Did you check just one box

that's on zero ballots ever? The [ __ ] are you talking about? That you voted Democratic all the way? Yeah, I checked every box that I could and for all [clears throat] Democrats, blue all the way down.

Yeah, there's Do you think that you get the ballot and it just says Democrat [ __ ] Republican [ __ ] and you just like color one in?

Yes, you do. Have you voted ever? [laughter] what you and I wanted to be here today. You [laughter] can vote. Okay, you little you can vote straight party line.

Uhhuh. So, I'm pretty sure Haley just did the straight party Democrat. You can just do that. Then if there's any proposals, you flip it over and you vote on those. At least in my state, that's what the ballot looks like.

That ain't like it is here. Yeah. You have to vote for every every individual candidate. Uh yeah, every race, every ballot measure, every party lines. If you decide to go straight Republican, you just um um fill in

the the box, make sure it's solid, and that will be a vote for every Republican that is on that ballot. And then you flip it over and there's proposals. Let's move on.

Wild work. Anyway, I already voted and I want to say I got people people that were there in line were like, you know, love your love your [ __ ] Love what you do. Oh my god, you're here, right? Also got the opposite. The old man handing me my ballot gave me the shake of the head and the just like the [clears throat and snorts] [laughter]

cuz he knew he knew who you were or he saw the tattoos or what? I got angry old man handing me about and like

what did you say to him? Just smile. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yeah. Nice. Um, all right, Mom. You've sent me some clips here. I don't know which one do you want to go to. I got Jesse Prime Time. I have that old racist historian guy. And I have one from NLDDR media. I don't know what any of these are about.

Um, I think I want the NLDDR media, maybe. All right, here we go. So, Trump and JD announced a $25 million fund that pays people for fraud tips that lead to a conviction or a plea. Fox reported it first. The fraud whistleblower incentive program is run by the Justice Department. It pays up to $30,000 per tip submitted through fraud.gov. A tipster gets paid only if the information leads to a federal guilty verdict or plea. Trump is expected to hand a $10,000 check to Nick Shirley, the 24-year-old independent journalist whose videos last year drew national attention to alleged fraud at Somali run childcare centers in Minnesota. I'm sure

I love Did you Did you know about that? No, but I love it. I'm going to do one right now. Um, DOJ, I have a tip for you. Donald Trump is stealing money from the United States of America, from taxpayers. He tried to sue the IRS for what was it? 10 billion dollars or something like that. That's our money. Let me know when you've got him behind bars and let me know where I can pick up my check.

That's pretty good, Chad. That's pretty good. I he they just started that two days ago. And like, you know, if if there is fraud going on in our United States and people are taking our money that shouldn't turn them in.

Why do you always fall? You always fall for the bait and switch, okay? You fall for there are literal billionaires that control the [ __ ] world committing fraud on a daily basis. And now they're like, "You ordinary people go after more ordinary people and [ __ ] turn them in.

Why? Why do you fall for that [ __ ] This is Nazi [ __ ] Mom." And Trump, by the way, listen, Trump is already convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud. He He's committing. This is Trump's playbook. He does crimes, he does bad [ __ ] then he accuses everybody else of doing it. He deflects. He projects. So when he's saying like, "Oh, remember when it the um what was it? [ __ ] Q Anon or whatever when they were talking about how Pizzagate and there's all these

Democrats and global elites are doing pedophilia. That was coming from Trump because he was doing it. Now he's going the fraud route. Everybody else is committing fraud, not me. He's been convicted of it 34 times.

Turn him in. Like you said, he's already been turned in and convicted. There was no sentencing because the Supreme Court said presidents can't go to jail. Presidents can't be uh punished in any way for anything they do.

You know who Nick Shirley is though, right? He's a young kid reporter that did find all the fraud in Minnesota. He found no fraud in Minnesota. That was all a lie. That has been thoroughly debunked.

I don't believe so. Why? Because that guy cuz that guy Tik Tok. No, that's not Tik Tok. That's because that's what has happened. And in Chad's state of California, there's fraud.

Yes. Investigator and state reviews have largely debunked or found unproven the sweeping claims of YouTuber Nick Shirley's viral video. Though the video has deeply divided politicians and triggered separate blah blah blah blah blah. The claims in December 2025. He posted a video alleging that Somali Americanrun daycarees in Minneapolis were fronts for collecting public funding without serving children. The fact state reviews um unannounced compliance visits and security footage found normal operations. children present and no evidence to back up Shirley's broad fraud allegations at the specific daycarees he targeted.

That is not the clips that I did see where there was no one in those daycarees. Right. So, you fell victim to it. He tricked you.

Those clips are Yes, you are. Those clips are made to make you think exactly how you're thinking now. I'm a victim. So that Somali

are the the evil people so that you can have an enemy. That's why those videos are made. That's why Trump champions it. That's why you had him at the White House. That's why he's going to give him $10,000.

Did you guys talk about Alan Omar on Wednesday? Uh yeah, last Sunday. Last Sunday. Yeah. That she married her brother possibly that they're finding DNA in the trash cans? That all of her siblings have been subpoenaed? that her birth certificate or

you fell for this [ __ ] too. You fell for that? I totally believe this one that her natural naturalization papers are not correct.

Okay. Mom, do you remember when Trump um first came onto the scene? One of his big talking points was Obama was not born in the United States. Do you remember that?

I believe that. Yes. You still believe that? Yes, I do. All right. Well, let's move on to your next clip. Uh what do you want? Jesse Prime Time. Oh my god.

Or the racist historian guy. Well, are these clips? Um, I like Jesse Prime Time. All right, here we go. 47s on a red eyee.

In 4:45 in the morning, I landed on that beautiful helipad. It's nice that I didn't have to land in the grass like we've been doing for about 60 years in the wet grass. And uh yeah, I didn't get too much sleep, come to think of it. Supposed to be sleeping now, but I'm not. I'm not a big sleeper. In 24 hours, the president went from DC to Alaska to Arizona to Montana and back to DC.

I got a lot of decides to say it. SENATOR [cheering] Abdul's cocky. Predicts he wins by seven. Called Rogers a joke. Well, Trump just called him a terrorist.

He's a uh Muslim Brotherhood guy. 100%. 100%. He's a Muslim Brotherhood guy. How about having him be on the Senate Intelligence Committee? How about that? The guy's 100% Muslim Brotherhood and we've got to make sure that Mike Rogers wins his central casting.

Abdul's mom worked for the Muslim Brotherhood. How do we know? His sister said so. NBC had him on the ropes. Watch. I'm telling you, like we I have no ties. We have no ties. Like

So your mother had no ties? I have never had these conversations with my mother. I wasn't raised. So you were you were unaware. But but but I'm just telling you that like you're using hearsay evidence from a tweet. This is not serious. It's not serious.

But you've also gone after the president for truthfulness. You've also gone after the president for truthfulness. So when people ask you a question, they all do expect the truth.

And do you think do you think are are you insinuating that somehow I was lying? I I don't know. That's why I'm asking

and I'm telling you I was not. Okay. What's the point of this? That he is. So they say they're accusing him of being in the Muslim Brotherhood

and he says he's not. And he said he's not but his sister said he is and so did his mother. So we don't see any of that clip.

Where's that clip? in part of that that's what that reporter was every time we do something with Trump where we're we say you know uh the Starlink thing that that Trump [ __ ] Ukraine by throttling their access to Starlink which allowed and I'm going to have some clips about that which allowed Russians to kill a one-year-old child and then you just say well Trump says he didn't do it and that's good enough for you why is it not good enough with Abdul El Say

because I have seen him say other things that were not true and like what I would like to ask our friend Mr. [ __ ] who's good friends with him what's going on here.

What else has he said that's not true? Um that he knew nothing about the hearsay or whatever that his sister had said that.

Mhm. Now when you guys say stuff I know my children at least I don't understand what that clip was supposed to be illustrating to us. Just that you're racist or they are or what? No, I'm afraid of Islamic the uh extremists taking over.

You're afraid of mom, Donnie? I feel like that's what's happening in France right now where it started with students and then the teachers and then they were protesting about the education and then some of the way leftist people

took over um in with the protests and are burning they were burning it down. Okay. And I feel like in America has nothing to do with whatever you think it does. It is it's literally they're protesting poor education that the government is not giving anyone an education. They're making it actively worse because they have far-right leaders in power.

Yes, that's the way it started. And then the other clip that I sent said that the way uh the extremists then hooked on to that and

Do you want to play that clip? That's propaganda. It's not real. I don't want any more of my clips. Y'all are so mean today.

It's because your your clips are like they're just full of people on the internet with [ __ ] opinions and no proof to back any of it up

or complete propaganda [ __ ] Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to play you a clip now then. One of mine. This is no spin. This is Donald Trump just speaking.

Okay. And you're not going to be allowed. You're all going to be thrown into a communist system. It's a communist system. You're going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets healthcare. It's

okay. Did you see that? You want to watch it again? Please. And you're not going to be allowed. You're all going to be thrown into a communist system. It's a communist system. You're going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets healthare. It's

okay. So he's saying if the Democrats win the midterms, you're going to be thrown into a communist system where everybody gets healthare. So you should want the Democrats to win, right?

Yes. I want healthcare for all. Right. Well, he's saying that like taken out of context or something. Taken out of I just showed you the clip. What do you mean taken out of context?

I don't know. He's saying that the Democrats Liberals can twist things a lot. Okay. I twisted nothing. That's him saying that. Where was that?

He said, "If the Democrats win, everybody gets healthare." So, you should want the Democrats to win. He is a [ __ ] That's why he said that. Let me play another one. Here's another clip of Trump. I'm just going to play this clip, then I'm going to ask you to explain what the hell he's talking about. Okay. Ready?

Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Ma Republicans woke up this morning and are claiming that Trump is not well. as he once again began praising a man's body, but this time focus on the man's feet, saying, quote, "Man, his feet are big." Just watch this.

So, he's over here. I'm over here, and I'm studying his body. I've never studied the body of a man before. It's not my thing. Nothing wrong with it, of course. Nothing. I always proceeded by saying nothing wrong, but it's never been my thing, to be honest with you. But I looked at his ass and then I looked at his legs and my I said his ass is [ __ ] It's like it's like a pile of muscle. Then I looked at his legs and I said, "Man, his feet are big." Then I looked at his shoulders and I tapped him on the shoulder.

This is the closing message right now and Republicans are literally asking, "What the hell are we doing?" Follow for more. All right, Mom. Explain it. I saw that. I saw him do that live and I was like, "That's not good."

Not right. It's not good. Explain it. I can't explain it. Okay. But he's still your president. Yes. That's what you think a president should be saying, that he's looking at a man's ball of muscle ass and his big feet. [laughter]

Who is this man we're talking about? Can I take a look? That's Donald Trump that we just I know that who is the man with the big feet and the that he's talking about.

I don't know. And it doesn't matter. This is the president of the [ __ ] United States talking about how he was checking out another man's muscle assing statement at a rally.

I know. And that's still your president. You are surprised by this. He had UFC on the White House long. Like he's done all this crazy [ __ ] and she's still [ __ ] gung-ho for it.

But like Trump talking about with what did he say? Big ass. Now you're just googling. It doesn't matter who the guy is. This is Donald Trump. the arguably most powerful person in the world is delivering that as his closing speech at a rally. That's not a serious person. Like, how can you think that guy can run the world?

He was talking about Ohio Senator John Hudstead, a Republican, when he made the comment about the gas. Trump was describing his muscular build at a rally in North Carolina on October 20th, 2026. We just

Yeah. Yeah. He was a former college football player and he's You're not answering the question. Chad is asking you how do you take

is asking you why is he still your president when he continuously does some [ __ ] ass [ __ ] like this. He does weird stuff that is laughable. I don't even know why.

It's not laughable. Take that seriously. He's a [ __ ] imbeicile. This is a guy who is waging a war against Iran, who may, in your mind at least, has nuclear capabilities. And they are watching that, saying, "We're at war with a [ __ ] idiot. We'll run circles around him." Now, all this reporting is coming out about a bunch of US bases in the Middle East are vaporized.

correct cuz that reporting is just coming out this week. We're going to talk about it on Sunday, I'm sure. Okay. Him and Hegath are lying through their [ __ ] teeth. And this is it's all part of the same thing. He's a [ __ ] idiot. Everyone in the world knows it. He's being played by Netanyahu, by Putin. Now he who he's helping. He is helping Putin, giving him money, buying his oil.

Putin then uses that money to create and buy arms that he's giving to Iran to blow up our bases. Donald Trump is now funding the opposition in the war he's waging. He's now funding Iran.

Hello. Yeah, we've talked about that. So, h how does any of this make him a good leader? How do you still support him? How do you justify it?

Oh my gosh. I voted for him. So, he's my president. I don't agree with everything he does. I think he is a president like we've never ever had.

You always say we've never ever had. That's not good. The worst president of all time is a president like we've never had. So is the best. Do you think he's the best president we've ever had? When he took over, I told dad, I'm not sure he can pull us out of what Biden just did to all of us.

I did say that today. Biden Biden didn't start the war with Are you blaming Are you blaming Joe Byron for everything that's going on?

Uh some of Obama, too. Handed him over billions of dollars in cash. Okay. dad said when he was still on this show, I remember asking him very distinctly, when will all the things that are wrong with our country and the world be Donald Trump's fault? Because he was using that same line of logic. Biden put us in this quagmire and Donald Trump kicked us whatever, blah blah blah. And I'm like, at what point will the sitting president have to take responsibility for the situation that we're in? He said June 30th, 2025.

Wow. Well, we passed that. That ain't no [ __ ] So now you are trying to fall back on this weird argument too. Oh, this is all Biden's fault. It ain't. Trump gutted all of these different government agencies. He ended USAD. He has started this war in Iran. He's withholding half of all Epstein files. He's the one who has ramped up ICE so that they're killing people in the streets. I had a bunch of clips I was going to play today, but I feel like you're on the right side of ICE. But now there's video of them just like running over people in the middle

of the street. Just [ __ ] in their car. Boom. Hit him. Just running them over. I And I said I don't agree with that. So, what more do you How How hard can you squeeze me on that one?

I I'm not squeezing you anymore. That's what I said. I'm not going to play those clips. But I'm saying Trump is okay with this. None of those ICE officers are being brought up on charges. There's not even investigations into it. And that's because of Trump. So, when you're saying, "Oh, this is Biden's fault." No, it isn't. None of it is. He didn't pull us out of climate accords. There's news that just came out today that we have now reached another tipping point in climate change and we're all basically [ __ ] That's all because of Trump. He pulled us out of all of those climate

deals. Biden did have an open border policy where anyone that wanted to could come in in the whole in a lie. What? That's a lie. Biden did not say borders are open.

We still had an immigration policy. No, he didn't. All right, let's uh move on. I want to play this clip for you. This is Oh, I'm curious to see what you think of this. Here we go.

Okay. Republicans just got a brutal October surprise ahead of the upcoming election in the form of this bombshell audio leak depicting Republican Mike Rogers admitting that he blocked the release of the Epstein files to protect those involved.

I do believe you have to protect victims. You also have to predict that somebody who got on an airplane and rode with him didn't go to was not a participant in any other activities other than you know he's they may have had business you know legitimate business reason you can't put that person out there that the court of public opinion would ruin their life for no reason. Um and so I that's what you have to be careful of.

That is a sick admission from this farright Epsteinian Republican. The Democrat running against him, Abdul Elsed, is committed to releasing the Epstein files and prosecuting those involved. This is why it's so important to vote and vote early in the midterms because should the Democrats take back control of Congress, we will get the full Epstein files. Okay, so there you have Mike Rogers, the guy that Abdul Elsed is running against, saying, you heard him say it, you have to protect the people that were friends with Epstein, not the victims. How do we know that's true? How do we know that's not AI? Did you know there are 30%

AI generated uh campaign things now going around where people can't even tell who's true, who's not? It was AI. Every video you've ever shown me is AI.

Now what? I don't know. You can't just say things are AI. That can't be your argument because I can use it, too. What if it is?

What if all the videos you've shown me are AI? But it's not. So what what do you say about that? How do you know it is not or it is?

Um that can't be your argument to something you don't want to face. It's not AI. No, I would audio recording of that guy.

If that is true, then that guy should not be elected. Correct. So then you're in favor of Abdul Elsed winning that he is not in the Muslim Brotherhood. Correct.

He said he's [ __ ] not. But his sister and I think a mother said different. So who do we believe? That's what I'm asking you.

The man who's telling you he's not. But he we'll see. Who do you believe? I just played you audio of the guy he's running against saying that he wants to protect

it was real. Why? Why don't you think it was AI generated to me? You kind of showed me like medbeds and stuff. No, you showed me the medbed.

That was the medbed was a clip you showed to me that I knew was AI. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. Okay, go back on that. You go back on that podcast. I'm the one that said yes, it was.

All right. So, why do you think this clip is AI? Because how um what do I want to say? Not exact, but how it was recorded um like crisp and I saw the up and down things just like perfect. Then

no, they put an like an audio visualizer on it. It's a phone call. They don't have video of it. This is a phone call that that guy was having with somebody else. So they put a little video thing on it that visualizes the sound waves just so you can have something to look at while you're listening to.

Can you right now get online and see if that was real or not? Like ask Yeah. Ask your Snoopies. Ask your Snoopy. Snoops.

Did Mike Rogers actually say we should protest? I'm so glad you're back on the show, Haley. And the Epstein files. Yes. Republican US Senate candidate Mike Rogers argued that individuals who merely appear in the Jeffrey Epstein files without evidence of a crime should be shielded from public exposure. He distinguished between blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. The context. Rogers discussed the matter during a radio and podcast appearance such as the Brian Kilme show. supporting the release of relevant investigative records while calling for redactions or protections of names in the Epstein files. So, yes, it's real.

Wow, that's not good for that. So, would you So, would you vote for that guy or Elsa? I would I would have to see if he's in the Muslim Brotherhood, but I don't like what that guy said. Okay.

Don't like either one of them. Let me Google. Don't like either one of them. Let me Google that. You don't like the guy that wants to release the Epstein files.

Why don't you like him? I do want those released. There is no evidence that Abdul Elsed, the Democratic US Senate candidate in Michigan, is or has ever been a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Elsed has repeatedly and explicitly disavowed the organization, stating that his loyalty is strictly to the US Constitution. Republicans like Mike Rogers and President Donald Trump have accused him of having ties to or sympathies with the Muslim Brotherhood, but this is not true. Uh, critics pointed old social media posts from Elsa's halfsister suggesting historical family involvement with the group in Egypt. Uh, but this is not true. Elsad dismissed the claims and

I'm This is not my belief. I'm reading this to you. This isn't about belief. I'm reading you what is factually true. And we've talked about this a lot on this show, but I think it like comes and goes. You're sometimes aware of it and sometimes not. Donald Trump and the upper tier Republican party are waging a propaganda campaign on America to make you afraid of Somali, the Muslim Brotherhood. That's why they're raiding Ilan Omar's house. That's why you think Abdul Elsed is in the Muslim Brotherhood even though he's very clearly not. It's all the stuff, all the clips that you're playing me of, oh the border and we've

circle. Protect them." You heard that man say that. And you say, "Well, that's got to be AI. That's fake because the propaganda has worked on you."

Yeah. If that's true, of course. I just [ __ ] told you it's true. I just read it to you. him. Don't curse him.

Then you would vote for Abdul Elsed if you were probably so if that was a true statement made by You keep making these weird qualifications. If it was true it is because it is true. It is true. So your answer is yes. I would vote for Elsi.

Remember the more you push that's not good. That's what our guest man said to [laughter] Steve said don't push me so hard. Well I have one more clip. We all know how I feel about old Steve [laughter]

Kumbaya. Yeah. All right, let me play one more clip here. Um, this is my last clip. Here we go. They're not even hiding it anymore. While you were asleep, Donald Trump's top envoy went to Russia and praised Vladimir Putin as a quote great humanitarian. Just days after Vladimir Putin murdered a one-year-old girl at a park in her stroller in Ukraine. And [clears throat] you talk so much about my president, President Trump, being a humanitarian.

You are are a humanitarian also, sir. And I salute that. I commend you and I thank you again. That is Steve Woodco, Donald Trump's envoy who has negotiated this so-called peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. He went to meet with Vladimir Putin today and commended him as a humanitarian. It came just hours after we learned that the Wall Street Journal has confirmed that Russia stepping up operations in Europe to destabilize Europe. That the Russian spokesperson threatened Japan. That Russian drones killed a one-year-old girl and her mom at a park in Ukraine, left hundreds of thousands of other people in Ukraine without power. But he's apparently a

I don't like that. Okay. And so, what are you going to do about it? I can't do anything about that. Yeah, you can. You can say I denounce Donald Trump.

I stopped supporting Donald Trump. No. Why? I don't like anyone being killed. We all know this. Uhhuh. And Donald Trump does. Donald Trump is good with a one-year-old kid getting killed by a drone strike that he helped facilitate. That drone strike happened when Starlink and Trump throttled Ukraine's ability to see incoming drone strikes. When they disconnected their ability to to use star or star shield is what the military grade Starlink is called. When they

they talked about that he denied it all. But it h he hasn't denied it all. That news is coming out now. They're basically trying to blame each other. Elon Musk is like, "Trump did it." Trump's like, "Elon Musk did it." They both [ __ ] did it on purpose to help Putin. As soon as that uh communication system goes down, as soon as they can't access it, it means they can't tell where the drones are coming from. So, they can't warn their citizens. Oh, [ __ ] it. Drone strike is coming. Get in your houses. Take shelter. And so, this mom and her one-year-old child are just out

Today, I do. I don't support death in any way. You do? Yeah, you do. You absolutely do. If you're supporting Donald Trump and Steve Wickoff

and saying Vladimir Putin, by the way, this is tip of the [ __ ] iceberg. Do you remember when he killed Alexi Noni,

do you know the story at all with the poisoning? Yes, it was his uh political rival. Noni was gaining steam. People were like, "We're going to vote for you." And obviously Putin controls all the elections, so I don't think it would have mattered anyway, but he wanted to send a message. So he tried to poison him. He survived that. Then he put him in [ __ ] jail and poisoned him again where he died in jail.

You know, there was I I just feel the world right now is uh evil. Yes. Against good. Good against evil. There was a clip that I talked to you about. We're not showing it for sure. It was either in Ecuador or Peru where the priest was standing at the altar and a cross came down and and he was

a crucif and that everybody saying evil is all around us now. Yes, good is trying to come through. It's really hard. It's hard for all of us.

So, where [snorts] does the evil where does Donald Trump uh rate on that scale of good to evil? Chad and I talked about this last week about the clips where the lion and the young man was killed and Trump put him out there. To me, and he should have never done that. We talked about that. But to me, Trump is trying to take down the swamp and the evil.

And we said, who's the evil? To me, it would be Hillary Clinton. It would be Obama's. It would be Pelosi. Okay. None of them are in the government now.

Did they call Vlad did they call Putin a humanitarian? I don't know. Did they help? No. [laughter] And if they did, it was AI.

Yeah, they didn't. Well, in fact, when Hillary Clinton was running against Trump, she gave that thing that is now like a viral clip and has been for the past 10 [ __ ] years where she said, "Trump is Putin's puppet, and if you elect him, Trump is gonna be doing whatever Putin wants." Now we've done it. And Trump is literally giving money to Putin to fund his war against Ukraine. Trump is literally helping Putin launch drone strikes that can be undetected by Ukraine to kill one-year-old children. Trump is literally now funding our enemy, the country we're in a war with, through Russia. He's giving Russia money.

I think he's trying to clean some of it up. How in what way? What has he cleaned up? Getting the war done. Getting that war.

He started the war. He started the war. You cannot get a war done that you began. He the war never had to happen. He started it and now he's continuing it. Pete Hgsth every two [ __ ] weeks is like, "We need more money for the war." And Trump signs the check. He's not trying to end it. He's trying to extend it as long as he possibly can because I think Russia and Netanyahu have blackmail in him. I think they have tapes of him probably sexually assaulting children at the very least.

And they're saying you're gonna do whatever the [ __ ] we want or these tapes come out. I don't agree with that. But

then why is he doing any of this? I don't know, Chad. I don't know. It's over. Well, you got to think about it. You have to think about

And you and Haley just make fun of me and make voices over me. We're not We're not making fun of you. I'm trying to

Haley did early on. Fine. Who cares? Don't play a victim. Listen to Listen to what we're saying. Hey, you know what? I don't matter. It's okay.

No, now you're doing this victimization [ __ ] and it's not going to fly. I want you to listen to what I'm saying and really think about it because I know for you it's hard to like give up the identity of being MAGA. It's hard for you to turn on Trump because that's been such a piece of like who you are for the past decade or so. And I get it. That's a hard thing to to make a change on anything any piece of your identity when you have a big C change ideologically or in your personality. I understand that it's difficult, but especially over the

No, mo most people believe what me and Haley believe. I think there is still a contingent of MAGA who are like true believers. And I don't even think you're that. I I think that it's just like a hard thing for you to turn the final corner because because you're not a true believer. you've you've um expressed many times that you disagree with Trump on a lot of different stuff.

You know what I think? I think the midterms are going to show who believes what and that will be good. Maybe if we get free and fair elections.

I think we will. But like what are you going to do, Mom, when the Democrats win these midterms and Trump seizes the ballots or declares the all the elections to be invalid?

You've already asked me that. Okay. Will that be a line too far? If Trump declares any election in any state where Democrats win, if he says that election was rigged, they cheated, it was invalid, we're throwing out the results. If he does that, will you denounce him?

No. Okay. So, he can steal the election then? He's not going to No one is going to steal the election. Eyes are on everything this time.

No, he's going to try for sure. He's already done it. He he ran a test case in Georgia where he had FBI go into Georgia and steal the 2020 election uh ballots. We talked about that on the show. He's already done it. And so he's going to do that here too before the um ballots can even be counted or maybe as they're coming in and it's looking like Democrats are going to win, he's going to send armed troops in to take those ballots and be like, "We're going to count them ourselves or we have to redo the election or this one doesn't count."

He's going to do that for sure. I would see that I if I would see armed troops going into election sites then yeah, not good.

You would denounce him. I might. Yes, I might. What? What would stop you from denouncing him in that case? Why would that would I? It's not going to happen.

No. What's going on? What What's going on over there? Why are you getting all flustered? the military involved in an election where they go in and seize things.

He already did it with the FBI. He had FBI agents go and seize ballots in Georgia. He already did this. What if he just comes out on TV and says that election was a a fake? It was a fraud. They cheated. What if he just says that?

I don't know anymore, Chad. I really don't know. Well, you got to think of these things because I think it's coming. If the Democrats win, if they win enough seats in the House or the Senate that they can start investigating him, he can't have that. He knows that he will he will be [ __ ] because

they've come out and said as much like they've come out and said so like if the Dems win, we're all [ __ ] We're going to jail. So, make sure you vote.

They have said that. That's what um the other side said when Trump won too that they were all going to go to jail. Nobody has

what? I'm not sure about that one. But I'm just asking you to like be prepared for these things because I think they are going to happen. That's my prediction for the midterms. I think the Democrats are going to win in a significant way.

And I think Trump is going to try to declare those victories invalid, steal the ballots potentially, or at the very least say we don't recognize this. And he's going to call, especially if it's in a red state that has a red governor, red lieutenant governor that have to verify the election. He's going to call them up and be like, "Don't verify that [ __ ] Throw it out." And they might. And then we're looking at some bad [ __ ] Then we're looking at violence for sure.

Guess we will see, but I don't believe that will happen at all. Okay. Time will tell, I suppose. Thank you for joining us. And uh Haley, thanks for being here. I love you. Sorry that you're running on empty lack of sleep. I know this is a difficult thing for you to do. And I appreciate you being here, Mom. Thank you for being here. I know it's difficult for you to go through all this, too. I'm sorry if you're feeling like we're attacking you or whatever, but we're approaching a very important inflection point in this country with these midterms. And

I know uh I just feel like I want you to have all the correct information and it's right there. You agree with the Democrats, but you still just can't see it that way. You know, even though that is the truth of it. If they had no labels, if we did not have labels,

like if you just showed her two candidates, and did not tell her what was what, you would vote for the Democrat probably every time.

Absolutely. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. I guess we'll talk about gallivanting on Sunday. And then since no one asked me, I'll just go ahead and show you.

What do you mean? Since no one asked you, like, are [laughter] we supposed to be [ __ ] psychic? Like, we knew you hurt your finger.

You just start every conversation with anybody you meet with. How are your fingers? Do you have a band-aid? [laughter] What is it? What happened?

That was my doctor's appointment. Remember, I had to leave last time. I got a tumor. I got a tumor. Has to be sliced and diced. I'm scared, but it's okay.

All right. [snorts] Well, hopefully it's nothing. Yeah. My cat has to have one cut off Friday. Sorry. A tumor something. Some little nub.

Where? Kind of back by his right leg. Oh, we just we just had one on our dog taken off. It was not cancerous.

I'm hoping. We'll see. We'll see what happen. Thanks for asking about me. You're welcome. Mom, I hope that you and um my cat both have the same result that Haley's dog had.

Okay. Benign. Thank you for joining us. We will see you on Sunday. Bye.