Why Is Trump Changing The Name Of Lake Ontario?

Too important. Too busy. Too busy. Too many gallivantings. I do believe. Yeah, she's I'm not going to say anything because you do have to gallivant. But she does it a lot.

You have gallivanted. Yes. But I did make sure even in a gallant that I was here for our Sunday conversation. This is true. I agree.

Even from gallivanting. Yeah, I agree. This is starting to be BS. It's We've been trying to get you to gallant to come to California for Monarch season and go up to Pismo Beach.

I do believe I need to do that. I agree. I think you'd love it. I'm happy to take you. And I'll just do the quick update on your father. Um he's going to be on here soon. We don't know when. Um I I seriously think so does the doctors involved now and our caretakers. It was a stroke.

Okay. So he is now able in the months that we have not had him on here able to sit up now on his own.

Um he still cannot um um what do I want to say like push up all by himself yet. He's a oneperson assist. He's getting stronger every day, but it's taken a long, long time. But he's getting better.

So, was that a telephone ring? Yeah, it was my alarm to go off for 10 cuz I thought we were recording today later.

Okay. Because Haley said she needed to record later, so we had our whole schedule redone. That's usually I get in trouble for things like that. Okay.

It's not a phone call. It was an alarm for this show. Okay. uh so that I would wake up in time. So the thing that like is mind-blowing to me is now you and all the nurses and stuff, all the people that are working with him, medical professionals, believe he had a stroke. None of his doctors said that at the time it happened.

No. No. And we even did have CT scans on the brain and everything. Everything. He was mis he was misdiagnosed at least two or three times.

Uhhuh. Um, I guess in what I've read too with a stroke, if it's way into the interior, um, sometimes it's hard to detect. They can't tell you exactly when it occurred. I promise that's exactly what it is. He's getting stronger.

I mean, he's not all the way back yet, but his brain is. His brain is back. Okay. Um, 100% in regard to politics and the war, and I hear it every day. Newsmax is blaring, but he'll be back soon. But you guys have like really good health insurance, or so you thought.

Yes. And are you satisfied with the level of care you've gotten that now has a misdiagnosed stroke, died on the table, and they brought him back to life, kicked you out of the rehab place earlier than obviously was warranted.

Yes. No. Are you satisfied with that? No. No. I don't like the health care system. We've talked about that. It has to be better for everyone. And it's not just because this has occurred to us.

I mean, I guess we're doing changed your mind about it a little a little. Prior to this, you and dad would say, like when we talked about universal healthcare, dad specifically, but you were on his side, would say, "Not everybody deserves health insurance. You have to have a good job or you shouldn't even have it."

I never said that. I don't think I did. I think everybody deserves the right to a doctor and uh medical care. Okay. Yeah. And and I do I mean you've got it's so weird now that I've been through this system and all the hospitals, all the rehabs. If you're alone, that's bad, too. You have to have someone there to advocate for you and speak up for you and take notes for you.

I had a notebook journal. I'd write down times, what was given, what wasn't. That's why I knew when he had the cardiac arrest or they're saying it wasn't that but he um yeah three minutes no heartbeat two medicines were given too close together. Yeah.

I mean that is I learned that when I was going through cancer I basically had to become a doctor. I was at home every night reading [ __ ] online about the specific kind of cancer I had. What are the most likely treatments? This drug they're prescribing for chemotherapy. Does it actually affect the kind of cancer I have? I found out, no, it doesn't.

And so then I was like, why are you prescribing this? It has all these gnarly side effects. It can make you deaf. It can make you go numb in your hands and feet. All this crazy [ __ ] And obviously you find out it's all for money. If these doctors prescribe a certain minimum quota of these drugs, they get kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies. And uh it's just like they don't give a [ __ ] about you in any

No, they don't. I think in that rehab facility, it was all about patient in, patient out. We make so much money a day. Yeah, I saw that.

It's a conveyor belt. That That's all the American medical system is. Um Okay. Well, I'm glad Dad's feeling better. I can't wait to have him back on the show. I miss him calling me a communist. And there's just so much that's happened since he's been off the show. Like, I want to ask him questions about all of it. But, um,

you know, I guess we'll see what happens the week he comes back, what the topics are. Um, now we move to our question of the week. If you have a question, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary conversation [email protected] and put in your subject line question. Please remember that. And if it's not a video question, do not put that in the subject line. People are now tricking me with like it'll say question, I open it, it's just like a [ __ ] 40 paragraph, whatever. You know, I don't read the 40

paragraph things. I never will. I don't have time. My apologies. All right, let's go to our question. Here it is, Mom. Hello, cultin family. My name is Adam. I live in Madrid, Spain. I'm originally from the States from New Jersey. And I have a question that has to do with the title of your show. Title of the show is the necessary conversation. and watching a lot of shows online like Jubilee, Surrounded, Parker, Dean.

Very nice question. Thank you very much. Uh, Mom, do you want to address this? Now, we one of the people he mentioned, Parker, is Parker did a job. We had him on the show,

right? And that was when dad then outlawed anyone under 30 from ever being on the show again [laughter] because he got his ass handed to him. Um, but what do you think is the difference between this kind of more popular format of uh political content where it is just hardcore debate? It's like one liberal versus 20 MAGA or whatever. You know, that kind of thing that Jubilee style.

What's the difference between that and a conversation that we're trying to I think a debate I do believe debates are you have the same I mean this is what I feel. This is how I think about it. you have the same uh words, the same verbiage each time, which that young kid did because I've watched him do other debates

and like he kind of you kind of say the same thing every time in a debate. You already know what you're going to say. They ask the question, you debate it, that's it. Boom. In the conversation, I really have listened to you guys. I do. I listen.

Yeah. And I do I guess we debate back a bit but then we think about what the other person has said in the end. That would be my answer. That was a pretty good answer. Thank you, Marilyn. [laughter]

I I tend to agree with you to some degree. I think we're in the same ballpark. To me, and again, that's just how I feel about it. A debate is like there is a or at least the point of a debate is to have a winner and a loser. Who won the debate? People are always saying that when you have political debates, who won the debate. And really, at this point in human history, the winner isn't even decided on how accurate or good they were at getting their point across or using logic or anything. It's just who you like more.

That that's why I called it this. Um, yes. I think it's terrible. Terribly sad if you don't talk to your family over politics. I mean, we were there once. We were. Yeah.

What if that would have continued? It would have been terrible. I think about that all the time. Where would we be now if we were still like we were before we started this podcast with like everything that's gone on with ICE and [ __ ] war in Iran, just everything that's happened in Trump's second term or even during Biden. Like it would have it would have occurred during Biden too, I guess. you know,

and I do have people I do have people that sometimes I read and they say um I read some of the DMs, some I don't when I have time,

and they say um like my mother won't talk to me over politics, you know, she hasn't seen my child yet. What What do you suggest I do? Okay, I'm just a person. I'm not, you know, I'm not anybody special, but I say keep trying.

Yeah. So, just keep trying. Each time there's a no, keep trying. keep trying because it is worth the effort. And that's part of the conversation too in my opinion is that it's like uh at least in my head you can have a conversation certainly like a singular event where you talk to somebody but the broader connotation in my opinion of the word conversation is that it is an ongoing interaction. Right?

And so for us it's you know obviously we've been doing this for like four years twice a week or we started [laughter] out doing it once a week. We boosted it up to twice a week. I don't know when. maybe a year ago. But that's a piece of this too, kind of an understanding that the the difference of opinion, the disagreements are not going to be solved in one sitting down and talking. That this potentially will take years.

Yeah, that was a good question. I like that guy. Thanks for watching. Me, too. Thanks for the question. Now, let's move on to our show. Before we get into our topics, I have a just a brief little topic and that comes with a picture that I wanted to throw up for you. This week, Trump posted a picture showing himself as the greatest president of all time. Did you see this?

No. I thought you were going to throw up there the one about um Canada and renaming the lake and the geese, Canadian geese.

That's coming. That's coming. Okay. [laughter] But first, I want you to take a look at this picture. That's a post from his truth social account. It has all the presidents and he's at the very top. It says the greatest. And then under him is great. And it has like uh

I can see Abraham Lincoln is in there. Washington, Roosevelt, Wilson, Jefferson, and Jackson under that is near great. Theodore Roosevelt, Grover Cleveland, uh so on and so forth. Average has uh Clinton's an average. Taft is an average

and failures. Yeah. And then failures is Biden, Obama, Grant Harding, and Jimmy Carter. Okay. So that and that was on X. No, Truth Social. That's his account. You can see it up there at the top. He posted this.

So he views himself as the greatest president of all time above the first president, George Washington, and above Abraham Lincoln, who ended slavery. Um, do you agree with this post?

I think it's a crazy post. Are you sure the human printer or whoever didn't do that and not him? You can't do that. You can't say he didn't post that. This is his account.

Okay. If it comes out on his account, that means he's good with it. Well, I think it's crazy. It's ridiculous. But you're smiling.

He thinks he should be working on a crazy. So you now think Trump is crazy? Well, that post is and I did just see the Canadian geese. Me and dad saw it. It was on Newsmax and we just started giggling. It's ridiculous.

Okay, so you're getting to a point where he's been doing this, by the way, on social media since he came into politics in 2016. But now it's even crazier because the human printer, I guess, is helping him kick out the volume of posts that he makes. But these things that he's posting where he's labeling himself as the greatest president of all time. You don't think that is like an egoomaniac, a narcissist?

I don't know if I'd call it that. It's just he is he's a president like we've never had. No other president does stuff like this.

Correct. I mean, right now it's making me giggle a bit, but I'm thinking we got bigger things to do than this. But just try to flip it around and imagine if Obama or Biden was posting [ __ ] like this every day. You would hate it.

Yeah. Yeah, I probably would. Okay. And so, but he's doing it now and you don't hate it. You giggle at it. Well, I kind of did. Yes.

Right. So, I'm just trying to get you to see that in your own mind there's a double standard where Donald Trump can do something and you find it funny or cute. But if anyone else did it, you would hate them for it.

I wouldn't hate them, but I wouldn't like it. Yeah, probably might. Okay, just wanted to throw that out there. Um, let's begin. Our first topic this week is

tariffs. The tariffs. Is it tariffs? Trump destroys trade relationship with Canada. In his attempt to escalate the trade war with one of our closest trade partners, Canada, Trump imposed 50% tariffs on roughly 20 billion worth of Canadian goods and announced additional levies on Canadian vehicles and steel set to take effect January 1st. Canadian Finance Minister Francois Phipe Champagna announced retaliatory tariffs of 1525 and 50% on nearly 20 billion in US products matching the US quote dollar for dollar rate for rate effective September 8th. They target steel, dairy, appliances, agricultural equipment, pulp and paper and electronics. Canada also pledged 7.5 billion Canadian dollars to

Because he's mad at Canada. And [snorts] you know, early on too, your dad said this too, that I think Canada's going to suffer more than we are on this.

No, dad said he thinks Canada is going to become the next American state. Yes, he said that again. Right. Okay. So, that's not happening, obviously.

Well, we'll see. We'll see the outcome of this. What do you Wait a minute. Wait a minute. How do you think that process, how do you think Canada would go about becoming the next American state?

That their economy is going to crumble because of this. If he puts more pressure and more tariffs on, they won't be able to last very long. I don't think

I still don't think you understand tariffs. When he puts a tariff on Canada, we pay that. It's a tax on the imports. Correct.

Yes. So, like if an American business is using, let's say, Canadian lumber and they're buying $10 million worth of Canadian lumber and he's now put what was it a 50% [ __ ] tariff on it.

Right. Right. Yes. 50%. So, if you're buying $10 million worth of lumber from Canada, as soon as you go to pick it up at the border, you must pay an additional 50% tariff, $5 million on that. So, your $10 million lumber uh deal now costs 15. And what it is meant to do is incentivize American companies to get their lumber from America because you don't have to then pay that tariff obviously. But if you've got a supply chain setup and this is how you've done business for 10 years or however long, just the effort to try and like find that lumber and set up how it's going to

Then whoever they sell that lumber to builders basically they charge more. So that whatever that tariff is gets passed on to us. But going the other way, isn't that going to happen also to Canada?

Well, I don't know. Canada is implementing all kinds of measures of saying like we're not going to have any American liquor in our liquor stores. And obviously Canada makes some good liquor so they're going to be fine there. You know the all the products

basically I think I I don't know either there also is like there's a difference I think in America and Canada right now in terms of like patriotism where this trade war is concerned. It feels to me correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know how you and dad feel about it. Americans are tired of this [ __ ] They're tired of Trump doing this every other [ __ ] week. And now Canada, who's like one of our closest allies of all time. He's [ __ ] all over them. They're calling him a dictator and saying, "Fuck you."

He's trying to make them mad at us. I think even more mad, I guess. But I think Canadians are so pissed and they're really rallying around this that I think they're down with it. I think they're like, "Yeah, throw all the [ __ ] tariffs on. We'll never buy American [ __ ] again. [ __ ] you." Ooh, that would be bad. Yeah,

but I don't think Americans aren't like that. Americans are mad at Trump and Canadians are mad at Trump. Yeah. And I feel like Canadians are going to be able to kind of collectively stop this or or

So, we're not going to see the full effect on this for a while, I guess, right? And know how this is going to

it's these tariffs go into effect. What was it? September 8th. That's like a week. Yeah, a week away. We'll see. So, but again this this idea of him changing the name of Lake Ontario.

Do Lake Ontario as you know we share it with Canada. Yeah. It's um it borders obviously Ontario which has big cities like Toronto and New York. It's Niagara Falls dumps into Lake Ontario

and now Huh. which is more kind of on the American side really but No, we share it. Okay. Go ahead. So, I'm just I'm asking you, do you think it's a good presidential move for Donald Trump to rename Lake Ontario Lake America?

I probably would not do that, but then when I did my research, there's been other presidents that have renamed uh President Dwight Eisenhower renamed the Department of War as a Department of Defense in 1949.

Okay. But, okay. No, don't don't don't don't rail these off. Let's take them one by one. Okay. So, he changed the Department of War, which is a very mean sounding aggressive thing, to the Department of Defense. We're going to not wage war with you. We're going to protect America. So, that name change, right? So, that name change is actually a good one.

Okay. Uh Reagan, President Reagan, which we love, signed a bill renaming the Washington National Airport as the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in 1998.

Okay. 98. So many years after Wait, he signed that bill in 1998? No. Mhm. Ronald Reagan in 1998. He renamed it to put his name into that national airport in 1998.

He didn't do that. He wasn't president. President Ronald Reagan signed Lesiglation renaming Washington Leslation. [laughter] I didn't say that quite. I have not been drinking friends. Um, [laughter] I wish I would have been, but

uh, yes, he didn't sign it. President Bill Clinton signed the legislation passed by US Congress that officially renamed Washington National Airport to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. Clinton signed that.

Okay, check. Let's fact check this one. Okay. [laughter] President Barack Obama, he used executive order or authority to restore change the names of some federal geographic features including Mount Denali. The change was made by the Interior Department in 2015 along with President Obama. So

when I Google, President Barack Obama did not issue an executive order to rename federal geographic features. Rather, in 2015, Interior Secretary Sally Juel issued a secretarial order that officially changed the name of Alaska's tallest peak from Mount McKinley back to traditional Alaskan native name Denali. So, not only is your information incorrect, Obama did not do that. It was the Secretary of the Interior. The name change is was meant to reflect a return back to its original name that it was named by the people who live there. So, all of these things are exactly the opposite of what Trump is doing. And in all cases so far that you presented, the

person you think is responsible for the name change is not accurate. Let's try this one. Joe Biden renamed Fort Bragg [laughter] to Fort Liberty, Fort Benning to Fort Moore and Fort Hood to Fort something else.

Okay, let's see if that's correct. His administration did um Fort to Fort Liberty. Yeah, it says his administration did um yeah, but also for Okay. Uh it just says the the Biden administration did. So let's say that Joe Biden did it.

That is our own military base on American soil that is shared with no other country. Yes. So fine. I'm whatever. These name changes are like cosmetic. They don't really matter. They're all symbolic. So then why So then why is the lake upsetting you? Because Donald Trump did it.

Because it's not ours. We share it with Canada. H So when you're talking about he's changing the names of bases, fine. Those are our military bases. This is a body of water shared with another country who is one of our or traditionally has been one of our closest allies. I don't know what the [ __ ] they are now. They probably are not anymore. Um, and he's doing it just to spite them because he's a petty child.

I did ask dad. I said, "Why did he do that?" And he said, "To make him mad at us." Yeah. Yes. He's petty. He's a little petty child.

Yeah. And that's not a good person to like he's doing this renaming of a [ __ ] late just to be like, "Haha, [ __ ] you." You want that guy running a war in Iran? Like if you're really scared that Iran has nuclear weapons and they're going to use them on us, you want that guy trying to stop it.

He has bigger things that he should be doing like bigger fish to fry and he's not. Yeah, correct. But that's been the the kind of foundation of his entire administration. He's more worried about putting gold in the White House, building a ballroom, having people arrested because he [ __ ] up his own reflecting pool, putting his name on the Kennedy Center. That's all he gives a [ __ ] about. He This other stuff is just to like confuse people and get people agitated and scared. What he really cares about is putting his name on things and making sure that people know he was here. That that's it. Well,

Yeah, we just went through it all. It was all wrong. Okay. Not all, but some of it. The only one you got was the Biden administration. And that's not that doesn't really apply to what we're talking about with Canada because those are our military bases.

Yeah. Every other one you had literally completely incorrect. every piece of the information you have. I got that off of a page that I love that is Republican. So, I thought it was correct.

Right. And they lied to you. Okay. That website wrote that specifically to lie to you. Specifically to make Trump look better. See, look, every president does this. It's no big deal. And everything you read to me was a lie.

I don't think it was a lie, but I'll look back. We just went through it all. I just showed you that it was a lie.

Okay. Okay. All right, next up. Trump and Hagsth are destroying the military. This week, several news outlets reported that the number of US service members seeking to leave the military by applying for conscientious objector discharge has skyrocketed under Trump and Hexath. The troops cite ethical and legal objections to orders in two conflicts. The war with Iran where troops said they were asked to target civilian infrastructure.

Infrastructure maybe we can't talk today. We can't talk today. Maybe like um the school full of children, a potential violation of international humanitarian law, and Operation Southern Spear. That was uh the strikes in the Caribbean where they just blew up civilians on drug boats. Straight murder. In a normal year, there are roughly 50 conscientious objector inquiries over the course of a year. In March alone, there were 429 and 440 in April. numbers for May, June, July, and August have not been reported. But extrapolating those two months of numbers out over a year is roughly a 10,000% increase in inquiries to leave the armed

When I did research this, all everything you just said is correct. Thank you. [laughter] Some of it though, it it I mean it it's, you know, the war is six months in. It's a long war.

Um stress not only on our soldiers, and I love each and every one of them, but also on their families. Okay. So, stress on families, stress on our soldiers, um to the people that are saying, "I want out and I don't want to go."

But when I did Google, overall enlistment has not collapsed. It said that in 2026, our military is still meeting the goals of people wanting to reinlist. And you know what? There was a young man at our house the other day that was helping set up a bed for dad. And um I asked him, "Is this your only job?" I don't know why I'm chatty Kathy with people coming in my house, but I said, "Is this your only job? Do you do anything else?" He said, "I'm getting ready to enlist, ma'am."

And I said, "Well, Godspeed. I hope everything is well." He said, "Yeah, I really want to go help and fight for our country." And I said, "God bless you." So, you know, I'm not making that up. Well, that's one person.

I know. I'm not saying we we have zero people in the military. I'm saying the sentiment in the military right now and and from my reading anyway, none of these people actually have been discharged yet. But the inquiries, it is the

it's people saying like, "How the [ __ ] do I get out of this?" That sentiment in the military is bigger than it's ever been

or at least in, you know, contemporary times. That's what this reporting reveals. And so under Trump and Hegathth, Hegsth, who by the way changed the name of the Department of Defense back to the Department of War and he constantly is talking about war fighters, war fighters, war fighters. When you're just saying the word war over and over again as the Secretary of Defense, it becomes very clear, you want a war. He loves the war in Iran. And his whole thing is like we're gonna give them testosterone and they better be able to do push-ups and we want war fighters and no no it's having the exact

yes, I do. I do see it. I hear it. I feel it. I've had a few people DM me that there are wives of military and how scared they are. So I do believe everything of that. I do.

Right. And so that my question is you thought when Trump came in he was going to make our military the strongest and the best and all this. Do you think that has happened?

Well, I think we are still enlisting the number that we need to enlist, right? But I don't like that people want to get out that they're, you know, that they're serving for our country and they feel so bad that they want to leave.

That makes, you know, it's So the question is, have Trump and Hexath made our military stronger? I I don't know how to answer that.

Well, all you have to do is think about it. People are trying to flee the military. Is that a strong military? Maybe not. At this point,

people are literally jumping off aircraft carriers to no longer participate in this war. I know you're going to say I'm deflecting, but what if, let's say, uh, Biden was leading this fight? Would it be the same? I mean,

you know what? If another president was, right? But you're going to say, I'm deflecting. No, I'm not saying you're deflecting. That question makes no sense. Biden was in office for four years. He could have started a war with Iran. He didn't. Another president is not doing this. No other president did this. Donald Trump, after years of two campaigns, he promised to never start a war with Iran in his first campaign and his 2021 and his 2024 one. In all three, he talked openly about that and constantly was saying, "The Democrats are going to start a war with Iran. It's going to be the end of the world." And then he does

it. So, he lied to you. He started this war. No other president did. Now the war is going terribly. We are losing the war to such a degree that people in the military are trying to get the [ __ ] out of it. I feel he is the only president we've ever had that has the um what is it? The strength to do this and try to make this right. You know, when I look I keep seeing stuff on Instagram about October 7th and all that and the poor women that were raped and all that. It just turns my stomach.

What? And you think that has something to do with Iran? The terrorist group. Of course it does. Okay. Those terrorist groups are horrific over there. They're still killing people over there.

Okay. Okay. So, you don't know what to say back. Well, those are unrelated things. Um, no, that's people in that country that need to be eliminated that cut the girl up and paraded her all around after gang raping her. Yes, those people need to be eliminated.

Okay. It was carried out by Hamas as we know in Gaza. Yes. Right. Yes. Okay. So, now I'm going to say um what is Hamas relation to Iran?

There are has provided Hamas with tens of millions of dollars of financial aid, weapons, and military training since the early 1990s. But that's not why Trump never said, "We're going in to get Hamas." Trump said, "We're going in to get nuclear weapons and regime change

and help the people over there have a better life due to those terrorist groups." That's what I thought it was. Well, do you think he's achieved that by blowing up their schools and now he's attacking their infrastructure and all this? Not yet because they're still killing their own people and I see it,

okay, every day. And it's But all all of this, what we're talking about now is way beside my original question, which is has Trump made the military stronger?

Like I said, I don't know how to answer that, Chad. Well, just look at the facts. He's depleting our stockpiles of weapons and fuel and all of that. morale with the troops is at an all-time low. And we are losing this war against Iran.

Yeah. And and also everything costs more. And that's not just for uh regular civilians. That's for troops as well. They have to buy the same [ __ ] we do, you know.

Yeah. Why do you think I told that guy, "Godspeed and good luck." Yeah. I mean, there was a time when I said if my grandson joined the army, how proud I would be and he part of the military.

Mhm. I mean, I still would be, but I'd be very scared for him. Yeah. Yeah. But again, just try to answer the question. Have Trump and HGth made the military stronger? What do you think?

I am not for sure at this point with people exiting and wanting to get out. Probably not. Okay. Because the military used to be you want to stay in for life, you know, it was kind of good pay. Your dad wanted to be a military person for life. He really did. He liked the military. He liked the exactness of it, the preciseness of it that people

um you know, you got orders, you did it. His OCD was like, "This is great." [laughter] It really was. He loved the military.

The US military. Great for OCD. It is. He loved it. He was proud to be uh serving for our country. And then, yeah, his father got sick, so we had to exit honorably discharged. Well, let's move on. We were going to have a simmer down, but it was going to be all about Haley talking about her trip, her gallivanting. So, let's just move on to the next uh topic. Trump kidnaps a 5-year-old. This week, Trump kidnapped another child. Liam Tedo, age five, was detained on August 16th, 2016 in Austin, Texas after Trump stopped his father, Victor Martinez Needto, during a traffic stop while the family was headed

I do. That's a crazy question and let me say what I want to say and then you'll have to ask that again of me I guess. Um that man Victor he entered the United States in 2022 without authorization through Texas. So he was not legal.

Yeah. He was then arrested in 2025. He accepted the volunteer I will depart and he went back to Mexico in February of 2026. Then he reentered with the child and his wife.

When I first heard this story, I thought, where's the mom? Why didn't the child go back to the mom? Um, which if you would have went on with your sources, which I went to KUT in Austin, Texas, which is TV, and I went to another source called Democratic Law. Victor has voluntarily decided to go back to Mexico with his son. They were both taken back on August 25th.

The child was supposed to be released to the mother, but for some reason was not. So, I don't understand that part of the story.

Okay. Trump should not I guess though if the mother wasn't there. Yeah. Where should the child go? Let me put out another possibility, another option.

Okay. This guy was not a criminal. The only thing he did was come to the United States in quotes. illegally. Undocumented, right? Yes. Undocumented.

Remember at the beginning of this it was like these are all drugdeing, rapist, psychopathic murderers. He didn't do any of that. He's just a dad.

That's it. He was a dad going to a soccer game with his kid, but not a US citizen. Who cares? He has a five-year-old [ __ ] child. Couldn't they have said, "Okay, we're gonna give this guy some more time to get his paperwork in order. We'll, you know, give him some kind of citation. You owe us $1,000 in some kind of tax or something." They could have done any other thing

to let that kid get to his soccer game and not [ __ ] put a 5-year-old child in a concentration camp for six days.

I totally agree with everything you said. And I wish the mom was there and then they all could have went back together or he that's what did happen eventually. So that made my

You're missing the bigger picture here. Why are they going after children at all? They didn't go after the child. They went after the child's dad.

Right. And so they see the dad has a 5-year-old kid. The dad has done no crimes other than he's undocumented. Why not look the other way or again give him some kind of citation? Give him something that says you have to go to court and get this cleared up.

Yes, I totally agree. Why not do that? I totally agree. I said abolish ICE. I I agree. I still want the bad people out. Like that guy wasn't bad. The kid was not bad.

Yes. That's what I'm saying. They're not going after bad people. The bad people are out. They're gone. They got as many as they could get. Now Trump has said you have to still arrest 2,000 people every [ __ ] day. So people the ICE is just like taking down whoever they can get.

I've said I abolish ICE. That's ridiculous. Let me go to this next topic which is related. I was going to do it last but let's just do it now. ICE in church reporting came out this week to dur that during the winter immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota, DHS and ICE ran a covert surveillance operation that put undercover agents inside churches, libraries, parks, restaurants, gyms, and online meetings around the Twin Cities. At least five Midwest churches were named, including University Baptist Church and First Universalist in Minnesota and Episcopal Church in St. Paul and Lutheran Churches in Minnesota and Ann Arbor, Michigan.

Right. Right. That's what I was going to say. Should I be allowed to go undercover in churches and record what people are saying?

N O no. Okay. So, all of this that you're saying no to, uh, kidnapping 5-year-old children, putting them in concentration camps, going into [ __ ] churches and recording people at their places of worship. You're saying no to all of it. You're saying abolish ICE. Trump is ramping this up. I'm agreeing with you. So say thank you, Mom. You're agreeing with me.

I know you are. But I This is a one of the issues that I know you disagree with Trump on completely. And the reason I'm bringing it up on a weekly basis is to show you that like yes, I get that you disagree with uh ICE and you want to abolish ICE, but Trump, the guy you're still saying is your president, is escalating all of the [ __ ] He's giving them more power, letting them do stuff without any kind of recourse. There's nothing any of these people can do. They were some reason in the for some reason in the back of my mind I still keep

thinking that they do still get a few of the bad guys out. I don't know why. I don't know why. A few of the bad guys at what cost? Like let's say a few of the bad guys. Let's say they get like um

a drug dealer or cartel. Yeah. Well, nobody from the cartels in America. Okay. They're all in Mexico sending drugs to America. Okay. So, let's say they get out a drug dealer. somebody who has even committed some kind of violent crime or whatever. How many of the 6,200 kids that are now traumatized for [ __ ] life is it worth to get out that one guy?

Zero. Okay. But it was also not worth the 250,000 or 300 that were lost when they came across the border either. Where did those poor children go? I don't know what children

during the Biden administration there was like over 200 250 that were lost as they crossed over the border. Yeah. Thousands like 250,000 to 300 that they don't even know where those poor children went to.

And then uh what did you find? Yeah, that's what I'm finding. Yeah. Uh 291 to 320,000 unaccompanied migrant children were not served court notices or tracked in immigration proceedings during the Biden administration. Though fact checkers and officials differ on whether they are truly in quotes lost.

The DHS Inspector General report on August 2024 um says that ICE failed to issue notices to appear in immigration court to more than 291,000 unaccompanied minors.

Yeah. Um anytime it involves children. Of course, we have to do right, not wrong. I agree. And I'm not saying Biden handled any of this [ __ ] correctly either. I remember when we were talking about he had the most people crossing the border of any president and all this kind of [ __ ] I'm not saying he was a good president on this either. And I I think that you're as always kind of like misunderstanding that because I'm against Trump, you think I loved Biden.

you know debate performance or whatever. Yeah. All of that. Had he gotten out earlier, maybe [ __ ] would be different now. I I do think the Democrats the Democrat party generally speaking I think is like horrible at politics and it's why they lose so much. And I think Biden was a obviously he was the the head person of that party for a minute.

But who did you let's just we'll just put it right out there since you're doing that to me today. Who did you vote for? Chad

Biden. There you go. You didn't like him, but you voted for him. You don't have a [ __ ] choice in this country. You have two people to pick from. And I certainly wasn't going to [ __ ] vote for Trump.

Okay. Okay. I don't the the just because I don't like somebody doesn't mean I I won't vote for them. In America, you've got whatever the [ __ ] Republican party is now, which is white nationalism, Project 2025, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, racism. That's what that party is. Like, at its surface, who the [ __ ] knows what happens behind closed doors? At its surface, it's doing all this [ __ ] So, it's way worse behind closed doors, in my opinion. the Democrats. I don't know what happens behind closed doors, but at least on its surface, at least the message they convey is that they are not

those things that they are trying to be for everybody and they are whatever they convey. Exactly. Sure. But I would at least like to vote for somebody who conveys that whether they mean it or not. They're at least trying to make you think they mean it than people who are the exact opposite that aren't even doing that that are like, "Fuck it. I'm racist. I am misogynist. I [ __ ] abused women. Vote for me. That's what the Republican party is.

So, who lies the best is who you vote for. Not who lies the best. I don't think Donald Trump does lie the best, by the way. I think he lies the worst. And for whatever reason, it works on a certain percentage of the population. You believe what he says to be true. Then he gets into office like, I will not start a war with Iran.

Yeah. And now he's done it. And you just don't seem to like view that as he lied directly to you about a huge thing. Yeah, he has in several ways. It's okay. I mean, it's okay for now. I'm getting there. Okay.

He's still your president today. Yes. Okay. He has lied to you about $2,000 check. You never got one. Not yet. He lied to you about Iran war.

Yes. Right. I'll never start it. He started it. He lied to you about ICE getting the bad guys out. Now, as we're just talking about this, he's [ __ ] Trump himself is kidnapping and putting in concentration camps children. 6,200 of them. 500 it said were under the age of three.

I I already said that's terrible. Okay. He's lied about any number of things. Do you know that he lied about the reflecting pool when he was like, "Arest people. People were out there with box cutters." We know that was a [ __ ] straight lie. He just made that up. I will close the border. I can't do his accent. He closed the border. We know that.

You keep coming back to that. And so what? You can't deny it. You can't deny that one. Right. But look at the general state of our country. Do you think the United States of America is in a better place now than it was before Trump

with the border? Yes. I'm talking about generally speaking. Do you think the average American's life is better or worse post Trump? A little bit worse now, but it's going to get better.

A little bit worse with the Venezuel Venezuelan oil. I can't talk today. I totally believe that's going to lower our gas prices and energy prices.

Uhhuh. What about our food prices? I don't know with that. What about our uh goods and services prices? I think we've got to let those tariffs play out. And I think

they've played out. We've we've had tariffs for two years. They got to keep going. And I do think as soon as we get this war over, it's going to be the best thing ever.

So when you're saying we have to let the tariffs play out. He initiated them on the first day he came into office. How long do we have to wait until they make things good and not bad?

I don't know. Tariffs sometimes take a long time. How long will it be? When he's out of office? No, it'll be before he leaves office, I do believe.

So, we're halfway through that pretty much. Uh-huh. All right. Let's do I do like though the Venezuelan oil thing that you didn't even have have as a topic. We can talk about that maybe next week and see how that Okay.

comes out. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't put it on here. Let's discuss um his good things you never do, but that's okay. What good things?

That Venzo and oil deal is a pretty good thing, I do believe. All right. You know what? Let's save that for when dad comes back.

Okay. Well, yeah, he's a big oil guy. I know everything about oil. All right. Let's um we have two more topics. Let's see if we can get to him real quick. The next one is Trump does not care about 9/11. The annual September 11th memorial at ground zero in New York City is coming up in a few weeks, marking the 25th anniversary of the attacks.

I don't look at it like that. I look at it like he's following the rules. Uh J D Vance will be there representing um him.

Yeah. The rules have always been no speeches always. And it's completely silence since day one. Since 2012, right? And so he [snorts] wanted to he wanted to speak somewhere. So let him go to Pennsylvania. That's fine. He, you know, now here he is going by the rules, doing what their people ask,

and you're like cutting him down. Yes. Because again, as stated in my little blurb here, they made it that way because the event, the day is supposed to be about remembering the people who died in this horrible attack.

And he wants to talk about it and and give a heartfelt okay uh speech. Is he speaking at the Pentagon or at Pennsylvania? at the Pentagon. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm sure Haggath will be right behind him. His speech is not going to be about 911. It's going to be about him, the war with Iran, and how the US military is the biggest and the best.

I'm going to bet you 50 cents on that. That's all I got right now. I'll bet you 50 cents on he's going to turn it to terrorism. He's just like you did wi with uh Iran and and when we were talking about um whatever that topic was earlier in the show where you were like the attacks on October 7th and Iran did not directly participate in those attacks.

I read that they fund um terrorist organizations organizations. Yeah, of course. But they weren't directly responsible for that. Okay. I I like I said, I'm going to bet you 50 cents here that you're wrong.

Okay. I can't wait to see the speech now. So, what's the actual bet that that his speech will be um zeroed in on the victims, the families, and not about him or anything else happening

right now with the war and stuff. Okay, interesting. I will definitely take that bet. And uh there's no way that's going to happen. He's never given a speech, to my knowledge, that isn't about him.

But this is 911, too. It's very different. Correct. But that's what I'm saying. He can't even like step back from I need to give a speech to go and just stand in silence at the memorial on the day and be present and be like the American president is here to not say anything to just observe and to have a moment that we remember these people and how bad this event was and that's it. That's all he's required to do. That's all he should be doing.

Instead, he's like, I need to go somewhere to give a speech. I think that's what he will do as he gives the speech.

But why does he have to give the speech at all? Because he is president of the United States and he wants to and he wants to tell everyone and the victims and the families.

Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll see what he says in that speech. We will definitely revisit that as a topic when he gives it in uh

about a week, I guess. I might have to give it 50 cents, but I don't think so. I think you're going to be giving me your 50 cents.

What's that? I bet you 50 cents. remember. So, I think you're going to be giving me your 50 cents. Okay. Our final topic is Trump destroys or tries to destroy Yusede National Park. This week, we found out Trump has since spring 2025 been quietly pressuring the National Park Service to arrange a land exchange that would give up roughly a quarter mile strip inside Yusede National Park to a private real estate developer, Kings Barn Realy Capital, a Nevada based real estate investment firm led by CEO Jeff Porry.

They're buying a road through it to get to the property that they already own, right? That they want to develop in houses or something.

Yes. I you do you know how much of land that is? Um a square mile. It's not very much many feet that they're asking to make a road through it. But

a national park is a national park too. Yeah. So I mean I can see it both ways because this man who is a friend of his owns the 85 acres or whatever on the other side wants to do a road through it. Why can't he go around it? I wonder. Why can't he go like all the way around?

You're saying like you see both sides of it. Should I be allowed to buy a quarter mile strip through Yusede National Park? Should anybody?

No. No. Okay. So only Donald Trump's rich friends. Yeah. No. Nobody should. No. Exactly. And so now you're seeing uh this thing that Trump is doing. Like he doesn't give a [ __ ] about the American national parks. He would rather have his friend, this land developer who paid money into his campaigns, who people close to Trump helped him do real estate deals in Los Angeles, and he's just helping this guy out. Yeah, let him buy a piece of Yoseite National Park.

None of that has been approved, though. And I think it has to be approved by somebody else, too. Just not Trump. It's somebody else that has to approve that.

But Trump is trying to do it. you keep, this is one of your main points when we have these conversations. I'll say like Trump's trying to do this crazy thing and then you're like, "It'll never happen. It has to be approved by blah blah blah blah blah." But you can see like he's always trying to do this bad [ __ ] Always. And sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the systems that are in place do stop it from happening. But that is not a reason to not uh look at what he's doing as an attempt to completely destroy the system. Yeah, we need to make a list.

he's trying to help the friend do it. But like I said, I read somebody else has to approve it, just not him. He just say yes.

Yes. Of course, somebody else has to approve it. But it starts at Trump. It starts at Trump saying, "I'm going to help my friend do this thing cuz this guy gave me [ __ ] money." If you pay Trump, he will help you try to get [ __ ] I mean, [ __ ] He was letting money launderers out of prison, giving them full pardons because they gave him millions of dollars. We talked about that. Remember the guy who was the head of the crypto exchange?

I do remember that. Yeah. That's all Trump is about. It's pure corruption. And so now he's doing it here with our public national parks.

I don't I don't I don't think it'll go through. I don't see how it can. Keep saying you don't think it'll go through. That doesn't matter. Trump wants to do it and is trying to do it. That's the only thing that matters here.

Or is it the man that wants to do it and trying to put pressure on Trump to say, "Help me." Pressure on him. He paid him. He gave money into his campaigns.

And so now Trump is like, "Well, you helped me out. Let me help you out." And Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] about national parks. That's clear. They laid off almost the entire

staff of all of our national parks. I do remember that. Yes. He sees it as undeveloped land that he can put his name on or help his friends put their buildings on or whatever.

Okay, this is another one we got to keep an eye on. Oh my god, we're always keeping eyes on. All right, well that wraps up our show. Thank you, Haley, for joining us. Um, your conversation was incredible and I love you wherever you are. Mom, thank you for joining me. I love you for doing this and I'm curious when we're going to get dad back in the mix. Do you think he'll be able to do a whole show when he comes back?

Um, I don't know. Maybe a couple topics to start. We don't want him to like blow his gasket again, have another stroke. [laughter] You're gonna have to you'll have to let me know um at least the night before so that I can put the topics in an order that we make sure we get a good one for him.

Okay. If he's just going to do one. I love you Chad. Love you Bob. Love you Haley. You need to quit gallivanting so much. We miss you.

We miss you. Um well that wraps up the show. I will be on here. I'm guessing solo uh later tonight doing a live if you want to join me for that. You can ask questions about anything we discussed today or anything you want at all. People ask all kinds of questions on those lives. Stuff about uh astral projecting, video games, magic cards, all kinds of stuff.

You know what? Maybe maybe Haley can do the live. She might be back by then. That is a joke, right? No, there's no [ __ ] way she's doing that. I will text her and tell her to be on the line.

Absolutely no [music] way. She's going to be too tired. Guaranteed. Um, thanks for joining us everybody. We will be back on Wednesday with a midweek edition, me and my mom. And uh, until then, join me on that live tonight. I will see you at 6 pm PDT.