Was The Assassination Attempt Staged?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coachran. With me today is my sister, Haley fellow lefty, and only my mom, representing my MAGA appearance. My dad is experiencing some health issues, so he's sleeping now. Sleeping it off. He'll be fine. >> [laughter] >> That's what you're calling it, yeah? Yeah, today we have a a lot to get to. Obviously, last night was the White House Correspondents Dinner and there was allegedly an assassination attempt. We'll get to if we believe that to be true or not. We're also going to be covering the war in Iran. Week nine, mom. We are going to be covering the uh what Trump said the whole world's getting turned into a casino and he's okay with it. We're going to be covering sleepy Don falling asleep in some more meetings. We're going to be covering the DOJ bringing back the firing squad and we are going to be covering the worst polling of all time for Donald Trump, which occurred this week. Before we get to any of that, mom, do you have ditties? I do not. No ditties this week? I've had no time for ditties, believe me. I'm shocked because you know what came out this weekend in theaters? I saw I did see that and I've seen uh Rotten Tomatoes Rotten Tomatoes gave it like a two or a three. A 2%? They gave it no, like three tomatoes or something. Rotten Tomatoes didn't like it. Well, I've seen the trailer and I don't care. I still think it's going to It looks good. Yeah. Yeah, it looks good. I wish I have time to go. Maybe I will. Let's get into our viewer question then. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm going to do the best I can. Yeah. If anybody out there by the way wants to send us a question, just record it in a 1 minute or shorter video format, send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Here's the question for this week. What? Billie Jean. Isn't that her name? Is not my lover. But she's just a girl who says that I am the one. But the kid is not my son. Okay, let's get this going. I'm ready. Here we go. Hi Colton family. I'm Samantha. I am 32 and I live in Orem, Utah with my husband and my two young children. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And it's important to me that you know that we are Christian. Everything in our gospel and everything that we believe in is rooted in Christ. And so to get that out of the way. Mormons or members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are indeed Christian. My question is for everybody. I would like to know how you would explain to a child and that Jesus taught that we need to love and accept everyone. If you could answer that question as if you're speaking to a child, I would love to hear how you would explain what that means. Thank you. Okay. So there you have it. Last week you and dad both said Mormons were not Christian. Here you have a Mormon saying we're Christian. >> [laughter] >> Do you accept that? They broke away from the church though, from the Catholic church and did They're not Catholic. They're Christian. You and dad said they're not Christian. >> I didn't say that. They have their own their own person that they follow. Jesus Christ. Yeah, but it is gosh, the Mormon >> different >> of Joseph Smith, probably. Right, right. So, yeah. So, they believe in God. I get that. The question was how do you teach How do you teach children to What was the question? How do you teach children? She said that the teachings of Christ basically say you should love everybody and accept everybody. Mhm. How would you say that to a kid given that your beliefs are not that? Well, my beliefs are that. Maybe not dad, but >> No, they're not. You don't accept transgender people. You don't accept what you call illegals. Okay, that has nothing to do with everybody should be loved. Everybody should care about everybody. So, no one has the right to make anyone feel feel bad or you do feel >> As a school teacher, I would bring in my little kids, 600 of them I taught. One year, 900 of them I taught. I would set them down and on day number one, no one has the right in this gym to make fun of everyone, anyone, to belittle anyone, to disrespect. We're all the same and if you do, then you will go outside and we'll go talk with the principal. Okay. So, so you would So, you believe that though, like if you had a little transgender kid in your gym class? That would not matter to me. I Why would I even ask if they're transgendered in my gym class? Let's just say that you know they are. Let's just say you know they are. I would not know that. I look at each kid the same when they came into my classroom. Fine. Answer my question. You know that the kid is transgender. You're going to still apply that to this classroom, yeah? You're not allowed to make fun of this kid, you're not allowed to [ __ ] be an [ __ ] you still believe that. >> Yes. Okay, so that's progress. You're cool with trans people. I never >> They don't deserve discrimination, yeah? No one deserves to be belittled. No one does. That's great. From a little kid all the way up. That's fantastic. So, you're changing. Thank you. So, will you now not belittle anybody? I don't belittle anyone. I don't I I disagree with people, but I don't belittle them. Like you acknowledge that trans people exist. Right. And they don't deserve the hatred that they receive like from the government or the world at large, correct? They Everybody has the right to do what they want and to be happy. I would not do that myself. But they have the right to do that if that's what they want to do. Not me. Not me. Not Hermione. Yeah. Wow. >> What the hell was that? >> [laughter] >> HE'S GOING TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF TO THE GANG. I'M TOO tired to give a [ __ ] at this point. Okay. Well, I like that answer. >> you have it. Thank you for your question. I can't believe you said that, Mom. I'm going to hold you to it. >> Yes, I like that answer. that I don't give a right to Ally. That what? That what? >> [laughter] >> Nobody deserves discrimination, yeah? >> No. No. All right, accept. I accept. Let's move on to our first topic. Assassin at the White House Correspondents Dinner last night, gunshots were fired near the main security screening area of the annual White House Correspondents Dinner at the Washington Hilton Hotel in DC. The suspect ran past the security checkpoint and fired at least one shot before being chased and apprehended. Officials identified the suspect as Cole Thomas Allen, 31 of Torrance, California. Allen studied engineering at Caltech and was a part-time teacher. Allen was armed with a shotgun, a handgun, and multiple knives, the report say, and exchanged fire with law enforcement when he was intercepted. His motive is currently unknown. One officer was shot, but was protected by a bulletproof vest. No other injuries were reported. Trump delivered statements after the incident, calling Allen a quote sick person and a whack job. He also applauded Secret Service and law enforcement for acting quickly and bravely. This was the first White House Correspondents Dinner Trump attended in the entirety of both of his presidencies due to feeling like the comedians would be mean to him. While the dinner is meant to celebrate the free press and First Amendment, Trump has consistently attempted to undermine these fundamental American institutions through lawsuits against newspapers and news networks, revoking reporters access to the White House, defunding NPR and PBS, using the FCC to threaten broadcasters who don't do what he says, and by posting thousands of social media posts insulting and threatening reporters and media personalities. First question is this. Mom, do you think the assassination attempt at the White House Correspondents Dinner was staged? No. Haley, do you? 100%. Okay. What leads you to that conclusion, Haley? Um first of all, I'm sorry. This is the President of the United States at a public venue, and you're telling me that we have not secured, checked the entire [snorts] building, perimeter, etc. Um he has like the best security in the entire country. Am I wrong? Also uh the footage is like [ __ ] laughable. The demeanor of everybody So, they're at a table and there's a clip of they take J.D. Vance away before they even address Donald Trump. He's just a sitting duck. Like that can't [ __ ] be real. And you see all these photos of like some Charlie's Angels poses like out in the [ __ ] hallway like there's a camera crew there just ready for it. Get [ __ ] Also, a black man trying to assassinate Donald Trump and he's not killed? That's a lie. That's simply a [ __ ] lie. They're not shooting this man to kill after you've heard a gunshot and he's running through a hotel lobby while there's the president on the other side of the door. It's a [ __ ] lie. I think it's all staged. And then immediately following, we get this. See? I need my bunker. I told you so. It's all [ __ ] [ __ ] Mom. No, the man was staying in that hotel. He came to the front of the event to get through where it was highly secure with all kinds of um security people there. He broke through that. So, when he broke he ran through it. Have you seen that clip? Yeah. He runs through it. One of the Secret Service or whoever pulls out a gun, another one does. They go to get him there. He shoots one of them in the leg and then they tackle him and he's face down. His family reports, okay, and I'll tell you where I got this information. Reports indicated that Allen's own family had grown increasingly concerned by his radicalization. One family member reported they contacted police in Connecticut after receiving portions of his writing before the attack. And they said that he is there in that hotel. Uh though the messages did not specifically mention that he was going there, but he was there, okay? Um and the demand, what he was going to do was it was in his manifesto, fix the issues of today's world. He stated his targets for the administration officials. Um and he had a list. And there were names on it. All of that could be fabricated. Okay. By watching By watching the clips that I have seen, he was trying to get through the the security that was right there. Um All of the big guys were inside. So, you mean to tell me that Donald Trump's security allows one man to sprint past them without being shot? He ran past him and almost knocked a couple over. So, should we be hiring new security cuz how [ __ ] They do you have to be when job? They pulled the gun. Then you see him face down. I believe 100% this is true. All right. Well, I mean I I'll weigh in on this. I don't know if it is or not. I'm kind of 50/50. It [clears throat] seems very convenient that he has never gone to one of these events ever because he is weak and afraid of having jokes made about him. Right. And so, the first one he goes to, there's an assassination attempt that immediately, within 1 hour, he's on TV saying, "Well, this means I need my ballroom." Which a judge has blocked. So, they cannot build it right now. A judge has blocked the building of that ballroom saying that you need congressional approval to be able to build that structure. He is now trying to circumnavigate that by saying, "Look, people are trying to kill me when I go anywhere but my ballroom. I need my ballroom." And the whole MAGA sphere is parroting that. They're all saying it. I It's possible that he staged this to get his bunker. 100% possible. And all of the things that you're talking about, how they didn't shoot him, there there are all of these little things that are just like let's take for face value all of the other assassination attempts that have occurred against him have occurred. Let's say those are real. I don't think they are, but let's say they are. Don't you think they would have extremely heightened security at this event? And he just ran through. They clearly didn't. They said like from the hotel or whatever you could walk right into the lobby where that was. Then the security >> Right. Exactly. Like why why is that the case? But then security started right there all the way around that lobby going into the event. That's where he broke through. He ran like an idiot and you can see it in the clip. Broke through and that's when they I saw six, seven different people pull guns on him. Um it's all [ __ ] I'm 100% the the the first assassination attempt is [ __ ] This is [ __ ] Um he even touted it as like a badge of honor. Like I'm proud to be a president with an assassination attempt. Like you're [ __ ] insane. This was all staged. Did you not watch when it did occur and they there was a camera that did have a pretty close-up of the first lady, Trump and then there was a lady on the right. I don't know who it was. >> Melania going like this? Oh, yeah. And how they took Vance out so fast. Then when they went back for Trump Okay, you you even saw that. So they take J.D. Vance first. But yeah, but they were on that side of it, I guess. But then when they went down to Trump, he he was knocked down on the ground. He went down to Listen to what you're saying. The president of the United States is sitting in the middle of this [ __ ] table and his secret service is taking the vice president first. You don't think that's a little sus? You know why it confused everyone? The gunshot, the first gunshot was um I don't know if it was from him or the secret service people, but it was way on the outside of the perimeter. It was not in where those people were. It was and they heard it. They heard it. So, everybody was going, "What was it? Oh my gosh." So, you're telling me that the secret service was confused, therefore ran for J.D. Vance first? Isn't their literal job to protect Donald Trump? The reason that Trump was taken out second or third or whatever after J.D. Vance and everybody else who was on that stage is because they were looking for the photo op, for the fight fight fight. They were looking for that same thing to happen. No. >> so old and feeble that he tripped and fell and they didn't get it. Yeah. No. I'm sorry y'all believe that. I just don't. I think it was for real and it's it more will come out. He was from Torrance, California. He was 31. He was a gaming video creator. He was a teacher. I read everything about that. You didn't listen. So, let me ask you this, Mom. Let's assume that you're right, that this was real and all these assassination attempts have been real. Why do you think so many people are trying to kill Donald Trump? I think the left just pushes a stupid narrative that we that the Republicans on the other side are How many How many years have we heard we're Nazis, we're fascists, we're bad people, Trump's bad, he's anti this, anti that? So, if you're a little kooky on the left side, that's what's happened. That it has pushed people into doing what they hear. >> [snorts] >> That's what I totally believe. All right. Why do you think Trump never attended a White House Correspondents Dinner until this one? He changed his mind. I guess he wanted to go to one. But why do you think he never wanted to go to the others? Maybe he's trying to get along with all the press. Maybe he's trying to show them, "Come on, let's do what's right here." You know that's not true. >> he go to the others? They roasted him or whatever. Right. He can't take a joke. He what? He cannot take a joke. He's thin-skinned. He is weak. Oh. Oh. I guess maybe >> of people believe that he was at a White House Correspondents Dinner when Obama was president. And Obama made some jokes about him. This was in Obama's last uh year of presidency. And a lot of people think that that was the moment that Trump was like, "Fine, [ __ ] you. I'm going to run for president." because Obama made a joke about him. Oh, well. His prerogative. He's got a very fragile ego. Okay. >> Um Let me ask you this. Mom, why do you think Trump is so adamantly against freedom of the press and freedom of speech? Because they lie about him all the time. They try to push the the left narrative, the wokeness. They try to push things that aren't true. Everybody does today. So you've admitted that Donald Trump lies, right? You admit that. Maybe exaggerate some things, yeah. >> [laughter] >> Okay. So in journalism, like we try to get the truth, right? >> Yes. Yes, we do. Right. So he's trying to eliminate like let's say you're right. Let's say the left, you know, has their agenda and that press is asking certain things. So if he's eliminating an entire group of people with a different perspective and only allowing the right side, don't you see a problem in that? Are you ever getting fair journalism? I don't see it happening that way. I see it the left is spewing so much untruths that we have to stand up on the other side. No, but it is happening. That This is not one of our topics that narrowly missed the list, but the Ellison family is now going to own Paramount, Warner Brothers, and TikTok. They are massively pro-Trump. You've already seen when they bought Paramount, they took over CBS, and they installed Barry Weiss as the head of CBS News, who has scuttled multiple news stories on 60 Minutes that are unfavorable to Trump. Right. Sh- Let me finish. >> to now do that to CNN, to HBO. >> When was When was the interview when they did it with um Kamala Harris, and they cut bits and pieces out and made her look really good when it she was really bad, and everything was kind of a lie back then? >> You're deflecting to something that's not really happening. >> What I'm trying to say is different networks do that to make whoever they're interviewing look good or bad. Okay. Well, now you have one >> or Kamala Harris or whoever. Now you have one pro-Trump billionaire family that is going to own about 50% of all media. Okay. >> And everything on all of their networks and TikTok is going to be pro-Trump. You You won't be allowed to say negative things against him on any of the networks that they now own. It's not 50/50, okay? 50% one side, 50% the other? It's not 50/50. I'm I'm One family owns all of this [ __ ] Oh, I thought you meant 50/50. >> Okay. I thought you meant like half of it is Republicans, half of it is Dems. >> Don't you want to know though like for instance, you know, they're allowing now major corporations to set up on endangered land with like to look for oil and [ __ ] So like we're going to be killing polar bears. They're going to come after your horses. Like don't you want to know that information? Don't you want to know what's like actually happening in the world? I want to know all correct information, Haley. Yes. >> Well, you're not going to get that is what we're trying to say. It's propaganda. It's like when you have one side only reporting the news, you only get that side. Well, but >> Newsmax. Can I talk about my new news outlet or not yet? Huh? Yeah, I got [clears throat] I got you the Ground News code, so you have Ground News now. We'll probably do a little video where I walk you through how to use it and stuff and we can look at some specific articles, but finally, I got you Ground News. I've been reading it. Huh? >> it. I like it. >> Okay. But like Ground News for example in Trump's world would not be able to exist. Trump wants the entire world to be Newsmax. And you may want that too. I don't know, but that certainly isn't unbiased reporting. Well, you just said you want like the truth, yeah? So that goes beyond Newsmax. Would you agree? Everything that I viewed on Newsmax this morning about the assassination attempt, then I went to my other source right here. It even gave me more. Talking more about the guy that did it. Okay. And described him even better. So you like that. I I do like this. So you But that's not Ground News is not it doesn't make news. It's not writing its own articles. It is taking all the articles that are written about every news story and showing you their bias. If it leans right or if it leans left, if it can be trusted, if it can't. it also shows you generally is more of the left covering a certain story or more of the right. And then you can even have like comparative headlines down at the bottom where you can literally see a headline, you know, where the the left will be like "Anti-free speech event that Trump holds and assassin came to it." And then the right will be like "Trump heroically killed the assassin with his bare hands." And you'll be like "What the fuck?" All right, anyways, let's move on to our next topic, the war week nine. In another disastrous week for Trump's unnecessary war with Iran, Trump was forced to extend the ceasefire which had been set to expire Wednesday this week after JD Vance's big trip to Pakistan for a second round of negotiations was cancelled because Iran's state news outlet reported that negotiators from Tehran would not appear for further talks. The Strait of Hormuz also remains completely blocked. Trump claimed that the US fully controlled the strait and said he is the one keeping it closed, but Iran seized two cargo ships in the supposedly closed strait. In retaliation, the United States seized Iranian oil tankers in the strait as well. The week ended with Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson saying there are no other plans for a meeting between Iranian and US negotiators. Trump then cancelled the planned trip of Steve Whitcoff and Jared Kushner to Pakistan. Trump touted securing a three-week extension to the ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon as a big step forward, but Israeli troops broke that ceasefire immediately, firing rockets into Lebanon. Today, nearly 3,400 Iranians have been killed including a school full of children and several hospitals have been specifically targeted. 12 of which have been completely destroyed. More than 2,200 people have been killed in Lebanon, 32 in Gulf states, and 23 in Israel. And currently, US soldiers are being forced to ration food with one soldier claiming he's lost 17 lb since the start of the war. Mom, do you think Trump is doing a good job with the war in Iran? Right now, I feel like it's stagnant and I feel like [ __ ] or or off the pot. I wrote him a letter or an email. I showed it to both of you. I did in regard to rations and asking about the food for the military not not good. No response back yet. You say [ __ ] or get off the pot. What does [ __ ] look like and what does get off the pot look like to you? Well, we're in this war. So, we need to finish it by peace or finish it by war one way or another. We cannot stay over there forever. But would you agree that like when you read stories about schools and hospitals being bombed that maybe it would just be best if we get out if we just leave and stop murdering people? But then the lives that we have lost were in vain. I mean that's going to be the case regardless. No, it it can be peace. He needs to push harder for peace, get it done, or push the other way. But he's not pushing for peace. He just wants >> I Chat Chat and I last Wednesday day there was a clip and it was good, wasn't it Chat? It was an Iranian man that was probably maybe the most 30 years old. And he said we want you here. We want you in our country to finish this for us. >> But Mom, that clip you're you're playing that and you're saying like well this means all Iranians are down with this. Do you think the um 3,400 Iranian citizens that have been killed, do you think their families are down for it? No, but what he said is we would rather take the bombing it to get this over with than take if you guys leave if the United States leaves and the people that they have over there in prison now will be executed in the streets. He said I would rather take the bombs. So, I I kind of I liked him. I'm going to watch more of his clips. I liked him. I believe him. Now, Trump is at least per his own kind of self-description a great businessman. The Art of the Deal was the name of his first book. Why do you think this great businessman cannot get the Iranians to even have a meeting with him? Yeah, sometimes in business that happens. And you got to figure out another strategy, you have to figure out another way. There was a clip I saw, it brought me to tears. I'll have to try to find it. And it was he stays up late at night and he was like >> 4:00 a.m. in the Oval Office all by himself, no security guys. But they were there, but they were far away. And then I guess someone looked back on the clip where he was sitting there at the office or at the Oval Office and he was like nodding off and reading stuff and nodding. And then he just started praying. He started praying. For the war. Okay, I'll find you the clip. >> Please. That's [ __ ] hilarious. He ain't praying to nothing but himself. >> praying. So, you you didn't really answer the question. You just said, "Well, sometimes in business that happens." His He started this war unnecessarily. And now he's not able to get the opposition to even answer a phone call. That cannot happen in in this business that you're talking about. It's not business, first of all, it's war. He's the president of the [ __ ] United States. And a whole ass other country is like, "Fuck you." One thing that he has done that is good, they no longer have the capability to drop anything bad on anyone. What? The big bombs. They no longer have in the making. They were like 2 weeks away, I think, from a nuclear bomb. >> Okay. Either on us or a country next to them. They no longer have that capability. That's what I read, Haley. Where? I'll have to You know, from now on if I read something and I'm going to share it, I'll get the source. I'll get the source. >> do. Yeah. Please do. And you're talking >> [laughter] >> What happened to that be nice to everybody? What happened to not belittling everybody? You guys belittle me. What's your song? >> you. Yes, you do. You belittle >> you to supply a source for your news because that's a core kind of like a real fundamental piece of what this show has always been. Is us >> belittle you guys. I can belittle you guys. >> What? [laughter] I can belittle you guys. You belittle me. We're not belittling you. We're asking you to show us the source of the news you're getting because a lot of what is happening in this country, but globally as well, is these giant corporate greed machines that make this news have a vested interest in in giving you [ __ ] that will keep you reading and watching. That's all they give a [ __ ] about. Is look at the screen with our logo on it. That's all they care about. That's how they make their money. So, they're going to say to you whatever will get you to keep watching that screen with their logo on it. And they know for you and Dad and everybody in the whole MAGA community, the way to do that is to make you afraid and angry so you say Iran was 2 weeks away from a nuclear weapon. [ __ ] I'm afraid. Now, they're not coming to the table to to negotiate. Now, I'm mad. [ __ ] them. Kill them. And it's a perpetual cycle. They will create a new monster for you to be afraid of and then a new thing for you to be mad at that monster for so that you can attack them. It's immigrants. It's Iran. It's the Chinese. It's the Somalis. It's perpetual. That's how it works. And all the while they do this because there's like a tippy-top. There's the 1%. They just want to cash in. They just want that money. They want us down here like scrambling for [ __ ] Oh, they're just making money off of all of this. The war, for instance, they're making money. Donald Trump's own son-in-law is part of this [ __ ] deal. I hear you and Haley though talk a lot of the same stuff that I hear on the left side. It's like the same verbage, the same stuff over and over and over again, too. So, I hear stuff coming out of your mouth that's kind of the same. >> No, the left also is this way. It It has its own cycle, which is to make us afraid of Trump, angry at Trump, keep watching. I think largely on the left, the the thing the carrot that they kind of constantly dangle is what is going to be the thing that gets Trump out of office. And that's kind of an undertone of everything in the left media. None of it is accurate. None of it is objective. Zero. There is no objective news in the United States of America anymore. Um, that's just how it is. And you have to kind of read between the lines to find the actual truth of it. That's why we're sitting on this podcast even debating if the an assassination attempt was real or staged cuz we are living in a world of artifice. None of this is real. I was literally questioning like, are the photos of this man AI? Cuz if you have somebody's face, like you can just [ __ ] use it, you know? Is this guy a real person? Did they AI this [ __ ] Did the government go in and create a [ __ ] person? You know what I'm saying? I don't even [ __ ] believe it anymore. >> Trump Trump released a photo this week of um the reflecting pool in DC and he's like, "Under Obama, under me." Side by side these two photos. Did you see that, Mom? Yep. It's bright blue. Under Obama, it's like green and murky and has algae and [ __ ] in it. Under him, this bright blue crystal beautiful reflecting pool. Where was that? >> look at the photos side by side for 1 second, you see, because of the cloud formation in the sky, it's the same photo that he just AI'd and said this is it under me. It's all fake. Yeah. Where was that posted on X or where? Yeah, on his Truth Social. I think maybe even White House official, I'm not sure. >> yeah. X is Twitter. Okay. Let's move on. We just talked about people making money off this war. Our third topic is Casino World. This week US Army Master Sergeant Gannon Ken Van Dyke, an active duty Special Forces soldier, was arrested and charged by the Department of Justice on Thursday for betting on the raid that kidnapped Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro, a mission he was directly involved in. The indictment alleges Van Dyke engaged in insider trading on Polymarket where he bet on the timeline of Maduro's kidnapping, spending more than $33,000 to place 13 bets that yielded him a profit of nearly $410,000. Van Dyke was charged with unlawful use of confidential government information for personal gain, theft of non-public government information, commodities fraud, wire fraud, and engaging in monetary transactions from unlawful activity. When asked about the arrest, Trump likened it to Pete Rose betting on his own baseball team in the '80s. On the broader issue of prediction markets and geopolitical betting, Trump said, "The whole world, unfortunately, has become somewhat of a casino. I like it conceptually, but it is what it is." Mom, do you think this uh soldier should have been arrested for making these bets? >> [snorts] >> Yes, probably, but I do agree with Trump. You can click on the internet today and it's some site, you can bet on anything you want today. Anything. Anything happening in the world. >> What's it called? There are two big ones, Polymarket and Kalshi. You can bet on anything. >> You can bet on anything. You can bet on the outcome of reality television shows like The Bachelor or Survivor. These shows have been shot months ago. The outcomes are already known to everybody who worked on the show and everybody who was on the show. Right. >> You can bet on that. That's insider trading. Like that's >> Correct. illegal. >> me. They stopped this guy cuz he was sloppy at it, but it's like Stop >> This is Back to the Future [ __ ] okay? We're going back with the sports almanac and we're betting on things that we already know the outcome of. Do you understand how that's like fraudulent and terrible? Okay. And how about like professional basketball players that have now have gotten in trouble >> That's different. >> throwing games. >> That's That's That's throwing a game. That's different than what this guy did. >> But then the people would bet on that game knowing it was going to be thrown, also. So Yes, that was a a huge scandal in the late '90s. The mafia was involved in that. There were referees that were doing it. Referees would I do think what this guy did is not right. He If he got caught, then he needs to pay the price. It's not right. Okay. Do you think there should be regulations? Of course. Federal regulations? Yes. Well, Donald Trump does not. Oh, cuz he said everybody's a casino now. You can go to casino >> it is what it is. >> He's like [ __ ] it. >> 100% right now say PredictIt and Kehlani cannot operate in the United States. He could do that tomorrow with an executive order. He ain't doing it. You know why? >> I need to email him again. Because he's placing them [ __ ] bets. >> Yeah, he's doing this. He's making money off of this. Do you see that? >> Calling Vegas and making bets? Not calling Vegas. He's betting on the stock market. He knows that he's going to extend a ceasefire, let's say, with Iran. And he knows when he makes that announcement what that is going to do to the stock market and oil prices. He does it all the time. We are now seeing massive amounts of money are being put into the stock market, oil futures, all kinds of [ __ ] minutes before he makes these announcements. Yeah. We've talked about this, yeah. >> He's doing this. Like do you do you understand that? That he is placing the bets. Right. >> think that's okay? No, just like Nancy Pelosi's husband, just like all of that inside of trading. No, that's That's right. And just like Donald Trump. Right, so no. >> saying it's So you're acknowledging how corrupt this is. Regulations need to be. But you're saying regulations need to be. This guy got arrested, the soldier got arrested, you support that. So should we not be asking Donald Trump? >> he got caught. Right. But what Haley's asking, answer that question. What? >> So if this guy is being held accountable for doing this [ __ ] and Donald Trump is also doing this [ __ ] should we not be holding him accountable? Yes, just like we should Pelosi and her husband, just like all the other politicians that do it, too. >> Fine. Fine. So should they all be So should they all be prosecuted? I said all of them. Including Trump. I'm not stuttering. All of them. Okay, so you believe Trump should be arrested? Progress. Caught. That's arrested. Caught. Catch him doing it. >> does caught mean? You put a net over his head? >> he is. They've made four >> god. How much money have they made since he's been his term? >> dollars. >> Four billion dollars since he's been president. >> In a year and a half. Just this time president, not the first time. Just this time. >> that's an obscene amount of money and the only way you can do that is by doing [ __ ] like this. Not selling cologne and sneakers and the things like that. >> making four billion dollars in cologne? We we did an episode where I broke this down for you, Mom. The cologne and the NFTs, all of that grifting is making a lot of money. No, that is a a big portion of it. It's hundreds of millions, but it ain't billions. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. It's not right. It's corrupt. Um okay, let's move on to our simmer down. We have a very special one. Mom, a a box a package was sent to you. We're going to have you open it here on the show. This is our simmer down. Let's see what's in the box. >> Now, I know um I did not open it. I was I wanted to. I really Where did it go? Is it there? Can you see it? Yeah. My name's right there. Back it up. Back it up. There you go. Okay. I really wanted to open it. It's a box for me, too. >> used my PI and I started thinking what could this be? What do you think it is? >> Well, I know Mother's Day's coming, but then I thought it's not about me. It's not always about me. Then I thought it's nothing for me and Dad, even though it should be cuz we're your parents, but it's not. It is for you. >> You got You have the [ __ ] box. What are you talking about? >> holding it. >> It has my name on it that it came to me. But then when I thought YouTube, I know what's on YouTube. Us? The necessary conversation is. Yeah. So this has to maybe and I didn't open it as you can tell. I can't even get in it right now. Um Oh god, I got a sharp knife. Be careful. Jesus Christ. slice my finger. Then I thought, okay. We started with five listeners. They were all my friends. I think this is going to be something that tells us how many listeners we have maybe. Since it came from YouTube maybe. That was my PI. Now if this is something crazy that makes me cry, I'm leaving the podcast. I'll just let you know that. What? >> [laughter] >> Okay. I'll catch you next Sunday. >> I don't think it's going to do that. It won't make me cry? I don't think so. >> Cuz you like to try to get me all emotional and [ __ ] half the time. Oh, do I need glasses? You need to show us what you're doing. I mean, we have no idea what's going on over there. >> [laughter] >> I opened I opened and I got this thing right here. >> Turn it around. I am. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Oh god, a card just fell out. >> [snorts] >> Read it. Do you remember your first subscriber? Your 100th? I remember about a hundred. Or your 1,000? Chances are that you do. Yeah. I used to make videos walk the neighborhood. Sorry, we can't be on today. My daughter's gallivanting, my son's too busy, but I'm here. Yep. Always the hero. >> [laughter] >> Don't [ __ ] forget it. That's why you got the plaque. I just got a point for cussing. Your fans may have found you while searching YouTube, learned about you through a friend, or maybe you showed up as a recommended video. No matter how they came to your channel, your audience stayed, and their numbers increased because of you and community that you've built. We're proud to honor your impressive milestone of reaching 100,000 subscribers and the silver Here I'm reading it. Silver Creator Award. Congratulations. We know that you have many more stories to share in your community, and we know that your fans can't wait for you to amaze them with even more of your commitment [laughter] and creativity. So, keep creating. Keep building. We can't wait to see what you'll do next, and we're here to support you along the way. And who knows when you reach your 1 millionth subscriber I'm about that. >> just write to you and ask, "Do you remember the 100th subscriber?" Sincerely, Neal Mohan, your YouTube CEO. Oh, wow. >> So, it looks like that. >> That's Now you got a real letter from Neal Mohan, the CEO of YouTube, as well as your Donald Trump letters. There it is. If I Oh, [ __ ] Oh, [ __ ] really? >> [laughter] >> I'm so sorry. Yikesy. >> [laughter] >> I saved it. And I I saved it. Yeah, there it is. That's pretty cool, right? 100. Did you guys think Did you think, you know, when we started this that so many people would be affected by it? No. I didn't either. We had what? Like three people listening to it. >> It was a very small amount when it was audio only, and even in the beginning when we first started doing video, I was not putting any effort into it. I was just recording our Zooms and then throwing it on YouTube. >> Yeah. Once I started putting a little elbow grease into the social media, got a better camera, and all that, I think it helped a lot, but thank you, by the way, to everybody who was part of that initial 100,000, and everybody else who's followed us and and watched our conversation over the past couple of years. We're going to keep going on it. Mom's holding [ __ ] up to the screen there. If your award was damaged during shipping [laughter] or unboxing, please call us back. >> Hey, well, you can't do that. I saved it. Well, there you go, Mom. You That's a Where should we hang it? Wherever you want. I I had them send it to you cuz I thought you would like it, and so you can put it up anywhere you want. There you go. We got it. >> I I can tell you where I was sitting when you called me that day and said, "Do you think we should do this?" I said, >> want to say like I have a lot of people that um message me, come into the bakery, you know, and they all want to talk about the pod. Um it [snorts] is very real. I There are people out there that think that this is all [ __ ] and we get together and laugh about it. >> I I get emails and DMs and stuff that ask if I script this and if we're all actors. And I'm like, "Are you kidding me? You think my dad's a [ __ ] actor?" Right. So, I just want to kind of address that and explain that this was literally meant to bring our family back together because I think we all agree that something like Donald Trump shouldn't be able to tear a family unit apart. And so, it is very real. Um there are days after this podcast I have to literally go like into my bedroom and read a book to decompress because the [ __ ] that we talk about and and you know, the fact that it's with our parents, like it really gets me heated. It's not an easy thing to do sometimes. So, um it just needs to be addressed, you know? And then there's this thing going around that Chad voted for Donald Trump. He didn't. Uh you know, people like to call others grifters yet use our media to do the same. And so, I would like to just address that that this is all very real. We do it to keep in touch with our family. Um and honestly for no other reason. I just want to talk and communicate with my mom and dad. Yeah. Well, there Oh, Mom, you got something to say? You did, Chad, give your father for a birthday [clears throat] gift to vote for Donald Trump. Yeah. It was the >> he let you out of it. the summer before the It was really before we even knew who the Democratic nominee was going to be. But I just felt like it was it was in the tail end of Biden and it was going into that next election and it just felt very much to me like Donald Trump had no chance. Like we we had done that. We were never going to do it again. And so, I gave my dad for his birthday and a retirement present my vote. And then over the course of the next few months, he gave it back to me. So, I voted for Kamala Harris. But, um Ooh. Yeah, that was a It's It's interesting to go back. Sometimes I'll go back and watch our old episodes just to see how much [ __ ] has changed and to re-listen to those or even re-watching some of those. We do have some video episodes that I think were before, um Trump won, before the the last election. It's wild to see or how different our demeanors are in that lead-up to what I think even you and Dad thought was going to be another Democrat president. We We all felt that. Yeah. going into it, and then we have what we have now. Anyways, congratulations, Mom. You have the plaque. Thank you again to everybody who has come on the strange ride with us. We're going to keep doing it until we can't. >> please give me credit, and you know this is correct. Yeah. Who started the Instagram channel? You did. Who started the TikTok channel? You did. And you made fun of me on another podcast. You allowed Bob, the drag queen, to make fun of me. Why would you let a 70-year-old mom Yeah. But, then Chad had to get my passwords because then he took over the accounts, and then we really did get bigger and better when Chad took it over. But, I [snorts] held down the fort for a while. Yeah, you did. Um and I appreciate it. Let's move on. We have three more topics. I want to get to all of them if we can here. Topic number four, Sleepy Don. This week, Sleepy Don fell asleep in the middle of a televised meeting again on Thursday during a healthcare affordability event in the White House. Trump fell asleep on camera as pharmaceutical executives delivered speeches standing behind him. This has become a recurring pattern throughout Trump's second term. He fell asleep in December of 2025 at a cabinet meeting, then again in February in an EPA event, then four times in March during a cabinet meeting, a press conference, a college athletics meeting, and an energy prices meeting. Trump and his followers relentlessly made fun of Joe Biden for looking tired on TV. Trump even gave him a nickname, Sleepy Joe, but no one seems to care that Trump has fallen asleep on television more than Biden ever did. Mom, why don't you care about Trump falling asleep during publicly televised meetings in the same way you did about Joe Biden? Um I don't know. Cuz he's still leading our country, okay? He's not. >> I know he's old. I know he's taking some naps now here and there. I have seen it and I think oh gosh. Uh but he's still doing okay. He has people around him that are helping. Joe Biden only had two. >> doing okay. Our our maybe I'll switch these topics here. Um I'll make it our next topic will be his poll numbers and you'll see that he's not doing okay. Let me ask you this question. I'll start with Haley. Do you think Trump's inability to stay awake is a symptom of bigger health issues? 100%. I think we all know that he's aged. He's old, okay? And he's sick. And he's got medical [ __ ] going on. The bruises on his hands, the swelling on his feet, he's falling asleep. There is something going on that they will not we're not privy to. Um there should be a full disclosure. I do think he's in decline and I think that him falling asleep is symptomatic of whatever is going on medically and we just don't know. I think him falling asleep during the day when those meetings are are because he's up all night, too, fighting for our country. >> No other president has done that and we've been in wars. >> Exactly. No other president has stayed up through the night trying to figure stuff out for us. >> Sure they have. What I'm saying is no other president has fallen asleep on camera multiple times during wartime. Ever. Um Biden? No. This is way more than Biden ever did it and we were not in a war. >> You're saying he's staying up Mom late night trying to solve this war? He's not. He's staying up late at night firing off hundreds of Truth Social posts about the 2020 election, Jimmy Kimmel, uh his ballroom, the [ __ ] AI pictures of the reflecting pool. He's not solving anything. He's creating problems and he's falling asleep during the day. And like if he needed sleep, if he needed to rest, couldn't he just do that instead of playing golf every other weekend? Oh gosh, I hope he's not coming in here. Um I'm I was looking at one thing right now. It said fact check edited video of Trump falling asleep on the desk is not real. All of these are >> an edited video that makes it look worse than it was, but he did fall asleep. So why are we editing and making it look worse? Why does Donald Trump use AI during He He posts all kinds of like AI videos on White House official? Because it exists, but it does not negate the fact that that was real. He did fall asleep. This just says edited and this is from Yahoo News. Okay, there is a version of that video that has been edited. But he did fall asleep. There are real videos of him [ __ ] out cold, head to the side. >> Okay, you think that's real? I can't see it. No, he's got his head down on the desk sleeping. That's not the video. >> That's not real. There's one with his head is literally like hits to the side and eyes just [ __ ] closed. Like he is at like out. Again, who do we believe? I'm sorry. Let's Let me just Who do you know in your immediate life that falls asleep like that? Well, we know one person. Right, and why? Old and up all night. And? And? Having some health issues. >> health conditions. Night bird. Okay. Okay. Let's move on to our next topic. Worst polling of all time. Mom, you said you think Trump is doing good. This week Trump's approval rating sank to new depths across virtually every major poll, according to Nate Silver's aggregate. 39% of Americans approve of Trump's job performance, while 57.7 disapprove, with his net approval rating hitting a hitting a new second term low of minus 18.8 points. Roughly where he stood after his role in encouraging the violent overthrow of the American government on January 6th. CNBC's All America Economic Survey showed Trump's net approval fell 10 points to minus 18, the lowest ever measured across both terms. His economic approval dropped to a minus 21-point margin, also his worst number ever as president. CNN polling showed his economic approval career low of 31% with roughly 2/3 of Americans saying his policies have worsened economic conditions. An NBC News poll found just 37% approval with 63% disapproval, including 50% who disapprove strongly. 2/3 also disapproved of his handling of inflation and the war with Iran. Mom, Trump has the worst poll numbers across both of his presidencies. Does that mean anything to you? Yes, but I would like to say during wartime with the economy, nothing's going to be good for a while. So, that's when some of that dips down. Right here out of the economist, it says, oh gosh, it better let me back in here. His net approval rating is negative 17, up 0.5 points from last week. 38% approval, 56% disapproval, and seven not sure yet. But, you have to acknowledge that we are in wartime because of Donald Trump. Right, so during war it's not going to be very high, I don't think, unless we get this war over. But it's all his fault. I don't think it's all his fault. It is. He started the war. Yeah, 47 years of those people being in suffrage and being assassinated and killed, we he wanted to go and help them. He also wanted to get the bombs out of there so nobody would be bombed. So, are we going to start doing this to every country that >> No, cuz we need to help our country now. I do believe that. You have something clicking in your mic. I don't know what's going on. Are you hitting the table it's on or I'm so sorry, Chad. Huh? I'm so sorry. I apologize. It's still going pretty bad. The It's like some some audio >> Did the YouTube plaque hit the microphone when you dropped it? Could have. Okay. Um I'll try to fix that in post. Why do you think his numbers are so low, Mom? You think it's just the war that he started? >> the economy. The economy needs to come back. But why isn't it? Because we're in a war. And tariffs. And billionaires own everything. Mhm. Because of Donald Trump. >> Mom's dissociating. She's checking out. We have one more She's Donald Trumping. I'm Donald Trumping. Uh one more final topic. The firing squad is back. On Friday, the Department of Justice announced they're going to start using firing squads, lethal injections, and gas chambers and streamlining the processes to expedite death penalty cases. The federal government has never previously included firing squads as a method of execution in its protocols and the Biden administration banned lethal injections over concerns about pain and suffering. The DOJ also directed the Bureau of Prisons to explore building new execution facilities, proposed rules to shorten the time between conviction and execution by years, and moved to restrict clemency petitions from death row inmates. Mom, do you think we should be executing prisoners? He's yelling at me. Oh my god. I I You and Haley talk for a second. Let me go shut him up. Then I'll be right back. I think Let me Let me state this. I think it's brought back. You know why? Because we're going to have some people brought up on treason. Could be Obama. Could be Clinton. >> I'm asking you an ideological question. Do you >> again. believe in the death penalty? No. I believe in prison for life over death penalty. I'll be right back or he's going to come in here. Okay. Bye. I'll be right back. >> Haley, uh did you read any of this this week about the DOJ bringing in firing squads? Basically, just more barbaric execution styles. >> terrifying. It's like >> Right. I don't know. I don't know. It's like are you going to Are they going to start hanging people? Are they going to start like are we going back to medieval times [ __ ] You going to bring out the pear? Like what's going on? Drawn quarter? I I definitely think if they are going to do this firing squad [ __ ] they'll televise it. Yeah. It's like Hunger Games [ __ ] Um Yeah, I don't believe in the death penalty either. I think it's uh horrifying because, you know, we know that there are people sitting on death row that are innocent. >> Of course. Like we know that. And we know that there are people sitting in federal federal prisons who, you know, like the crimes they committed rehabilitation, get the [ __ ] out. Like there are people who do not deserve to be in prison. Um I've never really liked the death penalty ever. Like Mom said, like if you've done something heinous to someone, rot in a [ __ ] cell. You know, but death penalty is is beyond. Especially like firing squad? Like Jesus Christ. Yeah. No. disgusting. Mom, why do you think Trump wants the firing squad? Like I said, I think people are going to be brought up for treason. But why not put them in prison for life? Why shoot them with guns? I do not know that, Chad. Wasn't that a Charlie Kirk thing? Didn't he come on one time and say like >> I don't know. that children should uh see people executed? Do you not remember that? >> Yes. >> Jesus. No. I don't remember. >> 100%. Look it up. I swear to God, there's a video of him saying this. Well, if I may, Mom, the reason he's doing this is because he is cruel and sadistic. He wants to see people suffer. He enjoys it. Because in his mind, a malignant narcissist, it is a form of winning. Or exerting control over other people. Making it about him. And it kind of like, you know, it ties into the fact that it's not unreasonable to think that he was mentioned in the Epstein files for a reason. There's a cruelty involved in that whole ring, you know. >> When you When you said that, I thought about that Anthony Weiner email, the Frazzle Frazzle drip or whatever it was, that one insurance policy file that's in there where it said Hillary Clinton did things to kids and they took off the face of a kid and ate it or something. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Okay. It's in the Epstein files? Mhm. It was called an insurance policy that was on his laptop. Okay. So, you believe that there's an Epstein file that says Hillary Clinton ate a child's face, but you won't believe any of the hundreds of accusations and mentions of Donald Trump in the Epstein files? I didn't say I believed it. I said it was in there. Okay. Why bring it up then? Cuz it reminded me when y'all were talking about bad things. I'm I'm out. I'm spent. Okay. Well, thank you for doing this. I know it's been a rough week for you and Dad. I hope Dad is feeling better as better as he can be feeling. Congratulations on your YouTube plaque. Thank you everybody for joining us. We must, as always, despite our differences, tell one another Mom, I do love you. Thank you for doing this podcast. Congratulations. Thank you, Haley. I love you. Haley, I love you. Chad, trying to get that centered. >> [laughter] >> So we can Yeah, we can see your whole computer screen in the reflection of it. >> Yeah. All right. All right. Love you, Mom. Love you, Chad. Tell Dad I love him. Yeah. He's yelling at me for food. Okay, I will be back tonight at 6:00 p.m. PST to do a live conversation where I answer questions about today's show and any other questions you may have. Are either of you going to join me? I'll do it. And Haley will be with me. Mom, I'm sure you'll be missed. >> if I get him fed well. Okay. Thanks for joining us. I'll see you tonight and we'll be back on Wednesday with a very special episode that you're going to be in, right, Mom? I guess so. All right. See you then. Bye.