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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation.
I couldn't go anywhere in San Francisco without being noticed. We were literally walking outside at a botanical garden and somebody yells, "Haley." And I turn around and just somebody working the grounds was like, "Oh my god, I love your podcast." Like all what no matter where we went,
Chad will say, "Save it." Look at his face. Welcome to the necessary conversation. And I'm Chad Colulch and with me is my famous sister [laughter] and my mom. My dad is not yet among us, but he's getting close. You're saying, Mom?
Yes, he's getting better. Yes. Oh, he'll be here soon. I I had a bunch of questions. I mean, God, I'm just so curious to talk to him about so much stuff at this point. But, uh, hopefully he'll be back soon for at least a topic or two, but until then, it's just us holding down the fort. Mom, do you have any diddies to begin the program? I really don't. I forgot. I forgot to find one.
Okay. Haley, any diddies? I got I got no diddies. We got noless episode. Well, we're going to We do have some topics to get to. Mom, the first one I think is going to be very interesting to you specifically. But before we do get to any of those, we are going to take a question from a listener slash slashwatcher
slasswatcher. A slash slinging hasher hashlinging slasher. We need to do [laughter] what is that called? I missed that. If you have a question that you'd like to submit [clears throat] to our show, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Put in the subjectline question. Now, please, if you're not asking a question in a one minute or shorter video format, do not put in the subject line question.
I beg of you. Thank you for this uh small convenience. Are you ready for today's question? Yes. Yep. Here we go. Hi, Colin family. My name is Melanie and I'm a 27year-old American, but I'm coming from to you from outside of the DACA concentration camp in Germany. Um, my question is for Mary Lou. Uh, you've historically, you and your husband have historically kind of diminished what Haley is saying when she talks about the detention centers for illegal immigrants in the United States being concentration camps. Um, one of the first thing that was was said in our tour today was what's the difference between a prison
and a concentration camp? And the answer was due process. Um, prisons have people who had a trial or were sentenced for a set amount of time by either a judge or a jury. And people who were taken to the concentration camps did not have that due process. Um, Mary Lou, I know that you have since denounced ICE and I am asking if you denounce the detention centers that they're putting people in as well. That's all. Thanks.
All right, Mom. Did you get the gist of that question? Yes, that would be part of get rid of ICE. Yes, I would say yes to her second part of that question. Yes.
So, you're saying abolish ICE and abolish the concentration camps. I don't call them concentration camps. They are though. I think they're they're places, you know, when this first started, I've talked about this. I thought they were getting out the drug dealers. I thought they were getting out the people that had committed crimes. And so I thought if they picked someone up that had committed a crime or been in and out of prison, in and out of prison, then they would go to the prison camps or whatever you want to call them, detention centers,
concentration camps, prisons. They're not prison camps. She just told you the difference. She just told you. You go to prison after due process, right?
You know, people are found guilty of crimes, they go to prison. No one is going to these concentration camps with any kind of like there has never been a legal process. They're kidnapping people off the street and throwing them in these concentration camps.
Some of those stories could be true, but some of the other stories that I know personally from a person that was taken from a farm that I knew well was taken from this city where I live. He was put in jail for one night here. then went back to Dallas for one night and then all the way to Mexico. He was never put in whatever you're calling these the prisons or the concentration camps. Just because he did not have a US citizenship, he went straight back to Mexico. So sometimes that does happen.
Yes, of course, not everybody goes to the concentration camp, but there are thousands of people in these concentration camps. People are dying in these concentration camps from malnourishment, lack of medical attention to easily fixable medical problems. And none of them saw a jury, saw a judge, none of them went through any legal process. They were kidnapped off the street. In many cases, kidnapped out of courouses while they were going through their legal process to become citizens here or to at least get some kind of legal status here. And they're thrown in these these places.
You're saying I hear what you're saying, but not everyone was that way because my friend was not. Yes. Who cares if everyone was that way? There are thousands of people for whom it is that way.
Yes. And it's not right. Okay. So, you're saying abolish it all. Yes. Tear down the whole system. Yes. Okay. Progress. You know, I I get a lot of DMs that are like, "Mary's backsliding. This is pointless again." Blah blah blah blah blah. And I have to I don't like respond to them, but I'm just like in my head I'm like, are you not seeing this? She's saying abolish ICE. She's saying she's for universal healthcare. I think you've made incredible progress.
Yeah. They just watched the clip, you know, they watch the short content on Tik Tok or Insta or whatever. Um, and they don't see the whole show, which I would encourage people to do. Actually watch the whole show because there's a lot of [ __ ] that isn't posted that, uh, you know, you can't really draw a conclusion unless you you've seen the whole show.
Indeed. Speaking of the whole show, let's get to the whole show. Our first topic, Trump is selling horses for slaughter. A New York Times investigation published this week found that Trump's Bureau of Land Management has more than doubled its sales of federally protected wild horses since Trump took office. One advocacy group's count has 6,331 horses sold in 19 months versus a historic average of about 1,200 a year.
Horses are sold for as little as $25 a piece, and many of their purchasers seem to be slaughterous or brokers who sell the horses to slaughter houses. Although wild horses in America are protected to some degree under the 2004 Burns Amendment, once sold, horses lose federal protection, so buyers can haul them to kill pins and flip them for their meat price of around $500. Oregon's Sky Dog Horse Sanctuary demanded the program suspension, accusing Trump's Bureau of Land Management of funneling horses to slaughter, quote, in plain sight. Humane World urged Congress to pass the Safe Act, which would ban exporting horses for slaughter, but was left out of the
2026 Farm Bill. Mom, how do you feel about Trump selling wild horses for $25 a piece so they can be killed for meat? Okay, if you are a horse person, you know this has been going on for decades since 1971, I do believe when the very first it it's called back in it was free wild free roaming range with burrows and horses back in 1971.
Um, so there was a law that protected them way back then. Okay, this is not just Trump. It is Congress that has to be pushed to do the safe act which would then which would then not allow the horses to be transported across border lines and slaughtered. We have a Mustang. We own half of a Mustang. Caroline and I own Ellie May Mustang. She was rounded up at three years old off of a Nevada range by a helicopter.
She was then transported to Colorado to a prisoner um unit. She was trained by prisoners, which was an excellent program. She's the best horse in that barn ever. Some of those programs have been defunded, which is terrible. There was one in Hutcherson, Kansas, where the prisoners train the horses. Defunded. Terrible. How can we help? The only way we can help is to press our representatives in your state, press the senators, congressmen, help. We need that safe act to pass. It is written now as an addendum. I think they're trying to put it on as an addendum of something. Um there are also sanctuaries
um that you can give money to, you can donate. There are adoptions for these beautiful animals all over the country. adopt one if you have I think it has to be it's not even an acre. There used to be a program too that was defunded where once you and two of my friends did this. You adopt them within a year they'll come out and check to make sure they're still okay. Then they give you the title, then they give you $1,000. That no longer is available, you know, to help these animals go places. In the state of Oklahoma, there is a family that owns the I'm not going to say their
name because I just don't do that to people, but they own the largest amount of acreage in Oklahoma. They get paid by the government a contract to have some of these beautiful horses on their land to graze and keep them going and keep them alive. There are sanctuaries, like I said. Um, and what's really cool this month, um, um, what is the name of the sanctuary?
Uh, the where Blue Zeus, the big stallion, came from, he was, um, rounded up along with his family, the mayor called Nike and the babies, and then the sanctuary came in, found him, rescued him. Sky Dog Ranch. They also went into holding pins, which there are so many of the I call them holding pins. They're like pins that the mustangs are in now. They rescued the whole family. And now that whole family of mustangs is reunited at Sky Dog Ranch. So, there are sanctuaries. Maline Pickins has her eco sanctuary to help. There are sanctuaries here in Oklahoma. So, how can we help?
You can give money. You can adopt one or get to your senators and get to your representatives and tell them we need this stock. Could Trump do an executive order? I think he maybe could,
of course. But it would still not It would still need to be passed by Congress. I'm pretty sure. Listen, thank you for all of that information. It did nothing to answer the question,
right? Trump under his watch, the average of horses being sold per year is 1,200. Already this year, we're not even, we're barely halfway through it. 6,331. He has multiplied it by six and they are selling them to [ __ ] slaughter houses. They are killing these horses for millions.
No, they're not. No, no, no, no. Trump is not selling them to slaughter houses. This is what happens. Those horses end up in a place like Straoud, Oklahoma, which is a killpin um where uh once they end up there, uh the article said where a not here but in a different place, a man would swoop up 600 of them, then transport them over the United States border and sell them to Canada. That is the safe act. It has to stop. We have to stop doing that.
There's only two slaughter houses where they go now. It's inhumane. It's terrible. They either go to Canada or they go to Mexico. So why aren't you blaming Trump?
Why aren't you holding him accountable? Why are you telling us to contact your senators? And this is Congress. It's [ __ ] Donald Trump.
I I've done letters to everyone. Congress has to push it through. But you got to pressure him too to do the right thing
because when in the history of his presidency has he ever listened to [ __ ] Congress? There is no law for Donald Trump.
Okay. I I totally believe that they're going to be saved. It's not just the the mustangs either in the burrows. This this has been happening, like I said, for years. Thoroughbreds get thrown away. Remember the great one um
Bernand that you're just sidestucking Kentucky Derby winner that ended up in Japan, sold to to a Japan broker that was going to use the horse's breeding.
When they were done, they dumped it and it got euthanized. The horse industry is a terrible industry. It's a terrible business. I'm not disputing any of that. You are completely avoiding the subject here,
which is under Donald Trump, the sale of these wild horses to whatever you say, a kill pin and then they go to the slaughterhouse. Whatever. Trump has created a pipeline where more horses are being sold into death than ever before. That's it's being created by him.
I think it's being created by the low funding. He cut funding. Yes. That's what I'm saying. The programs of the prisoners that did u um train these horses up and put them up for adoption.
Yes. So the industry you're saying is so terrible that kills all these horses. Trump is growing the industry. He is making it worse. He is killing more horses. Every listener out there, how many do we have? 100,000.
Send a letter to Trump. Send a letter to your representatives. You You're still avoiding the the main topic here. How does this make you feel about Trump?
Terrible. It's made me feel terrible for 30 years under each presidency. Uhhuh. Biden, what he tried to do is sterilize them. My god. He would take the stallions and cut their, you know, whats off and sterilize them. So that was
Trump's killing them for meat. Well, it's not for meat of people in the United States. Let's get that straight. There are people that eat horses for a delicacy in Asia and in Europe.
So, if they would stop eating them, there would be no market for them either. Okay. So, you're blaming this on Asia. I'm not blaming it on them, but I'm saying who who would eat that? Who would eat a Who would eat a cow? Your allegiance to Donald Trump is much greater than your allegiance to horses is what I've learned today.
Me, too. I'm sorry. That's what you both think. It's not. It's also anybody that attacks my shiny, they will be deffriended, deblocked, whatever. Don't attack my family or my pets. Thank you very much.
It would be it would be really easy for you to just say like Donald Trump is a piece of [ __ ] This shouldn't be happening. It's his fault. Like, that's pretty easy to say.
Yeah, it's fine. That's why the No, it is his fault. It's also Congress's fault. We got to get Congress to push this through. Then we'll then the horses will be okay.
The horses are not going to be okay. They're going to be [ __ ] You guys are acting like And it's Donald Trump's fault.
This has been going on for 30 years. There's also You're not listening to Chad. It has escalated. What historically used to be 1,200 horses annually has now escalated to 6,000 in a matter of months.
And you're not listening to Chad. You're not listening to the information. It's escalated under Donald Trump. Okay. And I don't think you guys know like within four to five years, horses on the range like this, wild horses will populate. They will double within four to five years. Then if there's no grass to feed them, if there's no water to feed them, they will starve with their babies on the range. This has been a long fight with the ranchers, with the horses over 30ome years. I'm not saying that's the cause. I'm saying the defunding right now. I'm saying Trump needs to help this. And I'm saying get a
hold of your congressman representatives. That's all we can do other than adopt a horse, get some land to put them on, help with the sanctuaries, donate money. What else can we do? Really, what can we do?
You can see this as the biggest ex against Trump because it is something that affects you so personally and you can say, "This is it. That's my final straw. He started the war in Iran. Uh he's made everything so expensive, no one can afford it. He has cheated on his wife while she was pregnant. He's all over the Epstein files. He's the one who is expanding ISIS capabilities. He's the one who's taking away people's health insurance. And now he's killing horses.
And that's too much for me. That's what you can do. You can say, "Can I wait to see if the Safe Act passes? I sure the hell hope it does.
That'll bring back the 6,000 horses that are dead." Uh, you didn't put it in your list of topics today, but it just dropped that like he's importing 300,000 metric tons of ground beef from some other I don't know where.
Yeah, I saw that. Um, and like every American farmer in the United States is like, "Okay, so we're fucked." Yeah. You saw that, Mom?
No. He's importing beef from outside of the country and supposedly is going to be selling it to America in quotes for way under market value. I don't know what the actual thing is behind this, how he's getting a kickback. Somehow he's getting money out of 100%.
Um, but he's basically undercutting American farmers. So, like all the cattle ranchers are [ __ ] I did not see that yet cuz I was looking at my horse stuff.
I do want to put a plug in for that. It's on Prime Video, Blue Zeus. Everybody needs to watch that. It It tells a lot about wild horses and how they were rescued. All right. Um, let's move on to our next topic. Natalie Harp. This week, new information emerged about Natalie Harp and her bizarre relationship with Trump. Harp, 35, is Trump's $150,000 a year executive assistant, dubbed his human printer because she follows him around with printouts of positive news stories and truth social posts, which she also helps craft. Harp entered Trump's orbit in 2019 after praising the Right to Try Act, which she said let her get
experimental bone cancer treatment. She spoke at the 2020 RNC, worked at O until 2022, then joined Trump's team. Despite working closely with Trump, she declined to seek routine security clearance for more than a year before Trump intervened. Her zealot level devotion to Trump was revealed in a UK mirror photo from Trump's 2023 Scotland trip that shows Trump leading a convoy of golf carts with Harp running after him in the distance so she wouldn't be out of his presence. CNN also reported she once climbed into an SUV trunk to accompany him to a court appearance. In addition, two letters from HAP to Trump were
published this week that show the depths of her cult-like devotion to him. They are filled with unnecessary apologies. She begs Trump to forgive her for her perceived transgression. She calls him her guardian and protector. She alludes to a coming of age experience she had in his service. She tells him he has the right to punish her and if he wants, she claims that Trump is all that matters to her.
Did you I have these letters here. I'm not They're long, so I'm not going to read them all, but did you read these letters?
I read parts of them. Yeah. Very bizarre. Okay. So, do you think mom Natalie Harp has a healthy working relationship with Donald Trump?
No, not really. It's bizarre. I had to look up her exact title. Executive assistant to the president. Special assistant. Isn't she basically every maj?
Yes. She basically cult member. Isn't that you making apologies for him left and right and like whatever you say, whatever you need, Donald Trump. Yeah, you can slaughter my horses. I don't [ __ ] care. Same [ __ ]
Oh my gosh. Haley, don't do this today. Really? Really? Don't do this today. [laughter] Compare me to that woman, the human printer. Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong today.
You literally just said him murdering all these horses isn't his fault. So tell me how you're different. What? I don't even under Why would you say I'm like the human printer?
Yeah, he created a war in Iran and it sucks. But like I still love my president. How are you different? I'm not sleeping at his door side. I'm not going on trips.
I'm not doing you and dad would if you had the I'm not like to be his assistant. He's like there's no room in the golf cart. You and dad would be running behind him. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
How are you different? Explain how you're different. How [snorts] he's in all of these terrible things, all this corruption left and right. You're like, he's still my president. That's no different than Natalie Harp.
He is because you know the corruption. You know what he's doing. And you're still [ __ ] getting in that trunk. Quit it, Haley.
So, wait a minute. [laughter] I mean, mom has not, to my knowledge, ridden in his trunk or run after his golf cart in Scotland, but you never met him even.
You've acknowledged that you think this relationship she has with or the working relationship is not a good one, right? It's very bizarre. Yes.
Do you think that she maybe has some mental health issues? Um I think because she was ill and had that cancer and then he let her or he what did he do? The right Yeah, he signed something. The right to act. the right to try act, which then allowed her to get the correct medical that she needed. Maybe that kind of flipped a switch on her and said she was going to be with him forever. I don't know. You know, I'm not her normal,
but looking from the outside in, it doesn't look good at all. It looks really strange. Do you think it's normal to purchase cologne and shoes and stuffed animals and hats and merchandise for a president? Do you think that's normal behavior? We did that as souvenirs so that someday after we have passed maybe you guys can resell. That's the only reason we kind of did [laughter] that
for for our benefit. You bought all of the Trump merch. I'm not kidding. We did. You think we're going to resell? We thought fun. So, you have envisioned this that me and Haley are going to inherit Trump's
inheritance and then resell it on eBay or something. Someday you can sell those red those red Trump shoes. Um, in this real Okay, that's never happening. So, in this kind of world where you've acknowledged this is not a normal or good working relationship, you've acknowledged that maybe she has some mental health issues in terms of her cultlike devotion to him. What do you think that says about him that he likes having her around? That he keeps her employed. He wants someone like that right by his side at all times,
right? that he needs somebody say yes sir yes sir I guess I don't know I did see where Melania Melania made an appearance and said something like uh you have all missed me I am back did you guys see that
they brought her out you're sidest stepping this question the topic I'm trying to get to here is it's not just that Natalie Harp has this like psychopathic level of attention she's paying to him devotion the fact that she's willing to throw herself in trunk of a car, sprint after his golf cart when everybody else is riding in it. And he's okay with that. He's like, "Yeah, put her in the trunk. Let her run behind me. She better be sleeping outside my door." He's that type of guy. So, this isn't just about her. Any public figure can uh generate this type of devotion from someone in their audience. And
certainly a president who is as famous as he is has a giant reach. Certainly there are people like that. That's how the that's how MAGA works. Like Haley's saying, it is a cult. But to employ that person, and by the way, you're the president of the United States. So, there was this whole thing about how she didn't have security clearance until a year into the job. So, without security clearance, she is sitting next to the most powerful person in the world, seeing all of the [ __ ] secrets, all the military secrets, all the US intelligence, when we're going to go to war, etc., etc., etc., and he's just
trusting her. And this is a person who is, I think, pretty clearly exhibiting signs of some kind of a mental health issue who might just one day kill him. Like that's the exact type of person who when he does something that's out of the idea of what her god is, turns all of that cultlike devotion immediately into now you got to die.
Oh, I don't I don't think it's like that. That's a little bizarre you would say something like that. What do you mean? That's exa that's o it's it's always like this. Do you remember uh who was it? David Spade when he got attacked by his assistant. Do you remember this?
It's very similar kind of thing. A personal assistant who was like devoted to him and worked for him every day. Showed up I believe if I'm remembering this right with like a duct tape and a knife or something and tried to kill him. This is the exact It's the person who's like in your life every day that doesn't see you as human when you do something. Although at this point she must have seen him like [ __ ] his pants a million times and seen like all the grossest [ __ ] And if she's still willing to jump in the back of the SUV,
I guess it doesn't matter. But the the point I'm trying to make is this is Trump. This is on Trump. He can decide who is his personal assistant obviously or anybody who's working for him and immediately around him. And the person he chooses is her who's writing him these weird letters who's hanging out in the trunks of the car sprinting after him. He
It's all It's all of them. It's turd blanche. It's [ __ ] Hespath. It It's like literally everyone in his cabinet, they're all sick of fans. Whatever you say, I'm up your ass. I'll do it for you. I don't care about people. They don't work for us. They work for him.
But the other is not opinion. It's right in the open. Mom, this this [ __ ] We see these letters. How is this opinion?
We don't know their relationship other than those letters, right? We don't know. and jumping into the back of an SUV and uh sprinting after him in the golf course and the letters are [ __ ] crazy. What are you talking about? Except for the letters.
What I'm saying is that that is the fear you see because I never want to bring you anything but joy. I'm sorry I lost my focus. You are all that matters to me. I don't want to ever let you down. Thank you for being my guardian and protector in this life. That's what I wanted to use this card for when you saw me at the cash register. and once again did what you didn't have to do and gifted me with momentos of this trip of a lifetime. A coming of age I will return a better person. I have to sign off now as the
cars are leaving. See you soon. Where's your guess how many of those letters I've ever written to any employer I've ever had. Zero. [laughter]
Right. Right. Thank God. What I'm trying to say when I brought up Melania was back in the spotlight that you said you're sidest stepping. No, I'm not.
You still are. PE. No, people around him are seeing that the human printer is not right. So, they said, "We got to bring Melania back in the spotlight right now."
There. No. What Haley is saying is true, too. But there's a difference. The people around him don't give a [ __ ] about any of this. They are all there for personal gain. Ty Blanchie probably Trump has some dirt on him, too. That's maybe why he's doing it. But Rubio, many of these career politicians that like were never Trumpers and then just fell right in line when he got the nomination, they are looking at this as how do I use this to to maintain relevance in the Republican party so that after he's gone, I can make my move. They are doing that and they are
turning a blind eye to Natalie Harp who has been doing this job for a year and a half. So you're saying now they're all getting blah blah blah. No, they they don't give a [ __ ] about this. They have seen this. They were there with him when she was running behind the [ __ ] golf carts in 2023. They don't give a [ __ ]
Do you think that the reason she didn't do the security clearance is there is something pretty bad in her background? No, she has the clearance now.
It's just an aptitude. She's not a professional person. You're acting like something in her in her history would [ __ ] matter. The entire the entire cabinet is full of [ __ ] corrupt criminals. Maybe mentally something is in her background that would show up.
She has the clearance now. The reason it was never done is because Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] She doesn't give a [ __ ] She probably didn't even know she had to get it. She's just like, "Whatever Trump says, I'm following him around like a little puppy dog." I'm The point I'm trying to get at, and you again just seem to not hear what I'm saying, is Donald Trump wants her to be like this.
He needs a person like this around him. You don't see that as a [ __ ] mental health issue? Yes. Both ways. I I think it's very bizarre. Very bizarre.
Correct. And so that's the president of the United States has this person who is writing him this weird [ __ ] all the time and just following him around at all hours of the day. I'm so sorry. You can cuss at me. And one of the letters she's like, "You can cuss me out if you need to." What the hell?
Where did we get these letters? Was it from a um newspaper person or something? Yes, the news. I I forget who published them initially, but yeah.
Yeah, it was reported on this week. It's bizarre. Yeah, very bizarre. Do you think she's the one posting like non-stop on Truth Social in the middle of the night? Is it her?
That's video of them doing it though. You You see how she's showing him, right? She's like, "Is this okay?" And he kind of
She's sitting one foot away from him, right next to him, and he just is like [ __ ] out word vomit. Yeah. And she's like, "Okay, type type. Is this it? Okay, send." It's [ __ ] bizarre and it's not on her. I I find I see her very similar to the way I see you and dad victims brainwashed.
Okay. Well, um you can go back a few podcasts ago, probably two months ago. I'm the one that brought her up and said, "Don't you think it's weird?" And you were like, "What are you talking about?" I'm the one that brought her up.
Okay. But now what I'm saying is, yes, it is weird. Beating me down. You're beating me down for nothing. It's because you don't you don't acknowledge Uh, the origin of all
I'm on your side for this one and you're beating me down still. So, you hate Donald Trump? I [laughter] No, I don't like the human printer that close to him. I don't think
you're not on my side because he is the [ __ ] origin of all of this. It's him. It starts with him. He's the [ __ ] root of all evil. And you won't acknowledge it. You're like, just weird. No, he's a [ __ ] [ __ ]
The human printer needs to go, right, Mom? But it's not the human printer's fault. The person deciding to keep the human printer there is him. He wants the human printer. And if it's not Natalie Harp, there will be another human printer. If this like right now, there may be too much heat on her because all this New York Times reporting or whatever, she might get fired and she's a woman. There will be another woman who probably looks almost exactly like her slotted right into that same place to do the exact same job, have the exact same level of devotion.
It's they all kind of are like Erica Kirky just like ah I'll do anything for the MAGA movement. Stop. He needs to have that.
Yeah. Do you see that? How that's a it's a weakness of Trump, not her. We'll see if the human printer stays or if we have a human printer number two.
All right, moving on. Topic number three. Canada. After weeks of talks, can Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announced Friday night that he's decided to suspend trade negotiations with the United States on Saturday morning. He called the new US tariffs a miscalculation after the talks collapsed late Friday. The new tariffs Carne reference are Trump's latest aggression against our neighbors to the north. His 50% duties took effect at midnight applying to hockey sticks, building materials, liquors, and certain clothing. They hit roughly $28 billion worth of Canadian goods. And Carney vowed Canada will quote match those tariffs dollar for dollar. He added that Canada's retaliatory tariffs would begin
on September 8th with additional measures to support workers and businesses coming in the days ahead. Mom, do you think tariffs have made our economy better so far?
Not yet. What are you waiting on? Time. Oh. Why do you think if the tariffs have been so bad up to this point, why is Trump putting more tariffs on Canada? They're just doing a little uh first grade. Your fault, my fault, your fault. Going back and forth.
Canada. Yes. You're blaming Canada. I'm blaming both sides going back and forth. They're blaming each other for the breakdown. So, how do you make it right?
But Trump put new tariffs on Canada. They didn't put any tariffs on us. He will. They will. It'll go back and forth. I bet
he will. They will. What? You're saying it'll go back and forth. You You have the same idea about the Iran war. Trump started all of these things.
Trump came in and said, "I'm putting tariffs on everybody, Canada included. We've obviously been in some kind of a trade war discussions since Trump came into office, but now he's put new escalated tariffs on them." What you're saying it's going to go back and forth making it sound like there's two sides to this. He's just bullying them. Mhm.
Why did he put more tariffs on them if even right now? This is going to disproportionately affect some of those northern states that do like trade with Canada on a routine basis. They're just going to get [ __ ] crushed. And they already have been crushed because of all the tariffs he's had in place since the beginning of his administration.
I I maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I thought he'd go back and forth. I don't know what what is the back and what's the goal of the tariffs then? the back and forth that you're saying
that everybody pays their fair share, I guess. Fair share of what? Of the um things coming in and out of our country. But isn't it crazy that like pre-Trump none of this existed and that everybody was cool and we were able to afford groceries and like this [ __ ] didn't happen? Isn't that [ __ ] weird?
Yeah. We weren't in wars either. Two wars at the same time, I don't believe. Right. He started them, right? this all began because of him and you're still like I mean that's an ex like just what I'm looking for is for you to finally [ __ ] hold him accountable for all of the [ __ ] that's happening in the United States that it's his [ __ ] fault. You just can't like utter those words and I don't understand why. It's just that's an X. That's an X. When can you just [ __ ] admit like he's the one who started it? Hold him accountable.
Not today. Well, let me just ask you point blank. How do you think the war in Iran started? We went into Iron. There were several people in place that he wanted to bomb and get rid of.
Okay. And why did he want to do that? to get rid of the people and to stop the nuclear stuff that they were getting ready to do against us.
So against us. Okay. So imagine if right now, let's say China invades the United States and just starts bombing places and saying we need to kill certain people. We need to get rid of the entire Trump, his cabinet. We need to kill all of them and we need to make sure the United States doesn't have a nuclear capability anymore. So, we're going to bomb all their nuclear facilities and we're just you're going about your day and that just happens.
Don't you think we'd fight back? Yes. Okay. So, that's what Iran is doing. Yes. Because Trump has come in and just started [ __ ] annihilating their country under false pretenses, by the way. Has nothing to do with getting rid of their nuclear program. He said like 2 days after we started the war, "Their nuclear program has been totally obliterated. So what are we doing there?" He said, "We've uh gotten rid of their current regime. Take to the streets. Take your government back. The regime is gone." He said that. So he's either lying about all that [ __ ] or he was lying about the
reason to go in the war in the first place, which is the actual case. The reason he started that war is so he can manipulate oil prices. He has made uh billions of dollars off of insider trading, buying commodities, etc., etc., etc., etc. All of this is about money for him. All of it, and putting his name on [ __ ] everything he does. So, when we're talking about why he's having this war with Canada, this trade war, it's so that he can be the big tough guy who [ __ ] Canada over, that's it. He likes being in fights with people of any kind
and being the perceived winner of those fights. That is it. That's the whole game for him. He's a bully. Good commentary, Chad. Thanks. Uh, let's simmer down. This week we were in the New York Times. The failing New York Times, Dad might say. I wish he was here to talk about this. I'm curious to know what Have you talked to him about it?
He read it. He loved it. He loved it. He loved it. So, but he hates the New York Times, right? Yeah. But he still loved it
because he was in it. Is that [laughter] Yeah, it it was stroking his ego. He's got a little Trump in too. Yeah. Um
like it [clears throat] What did you think of it and how has it affected your life? Um it Yeah, it was good. good article and we had the photographer come to the bakery for like
almost a whole day. That was actually really fun. Um I don't know it has like our following continues to grow. I really have found like my own community. Um especially since doing the podcast I like every liberal person that exists within our vicinity has found us. Uh so for that I am grateful. Um so every time that we're posted anywhere, you know, however many people find us and start following us and it's a nice feeling to know that the people coming to patronize me are like-minded, that they're kind people, they believe in what we believe in. And so I'm just super grateful that uh this
weird [ __ ] ride has essentially given me the community that I always wanted. Like as a business owner, I don't have to serve people that are pieces of [ __ ] and I'm grateful for it.
Oh, okay. Um it's true. When you get telephone calls from people wishing death on you, those are pieces of [ __ ] and I know they'll never step foot in my bakery. And so I'm grateful for that. Yeah,
I would like to say Amanda was great. She wrote the article. She was very nice. Um, Gabby, the photographer that came to our house and out to the barn with me, was super nice. It was a fun day. And we all appreciate it. It was a great article. I didn't I I started getting DMs, hey, hey, hey. I mean, we knew it was coming out, but we didn't know quite when. And Amanda had kept up with us on that. And then today it is in print and Amanda's gonna send us some if she can find them. If not, I'd like to go find one.
Sunday, Sunday, August 23rd. Um, depending on when you're listening to this video, if you're watching it on Sunday, you can find this, I guess, in the New York Times
actual newspaper today. Um, [clears throat] did you go ahead? Did you think when we started this podcast, either one of you, that we would have this kind of coverage be in the New York Times? I went on MS Now also on uh Thursday on Katie Tur's show to talk about our show. Did either of you think that this would be the eventual outcome?
Never in my dreams. I did see that interview too and I did show dad and he goes, "Wow, Chad's famous." [laughter] He goes, he liked it. He did like that one, too.
No, never in my dreams. I thought we'd be on I thought I would be doing this for I'm not teasing three weeks. Okay.
I thought we'd burn out for three weeks. I definitely thought we would have like our 25 hardcore listeners like you know forever. Um because ultimately we did not at least I didn't start this with any um expectation. It was just the hope that we would talk again. So I don't know. It's it's a it's a wild ride. Also, my bakery is like we've gone hella viral like multiple times.
Um, and I certainly never thought that would happen. So, just like the two kind of combined, I've had my ass handed to me the last two months, just like non-stop, super busy. Um, I don't know. It's It's nothing I think that I ever anticipated, but I'm certainly grateful for it.
Chad, did you You're lucky you have me, Chad. Did you? Yes. You thought that it would happen like this? Any project that I ever do, whatever it is, I always see the the optimal outcome at some point. And I have done multiple podcasts at this point um in life. So, I understand the very rarely is a podcast going to be like super successful immediately. Generally speaking, it takes years to build any kind of momentum for anybody to recognize it, whatever. And so I was down to do that obviously because also this project is more than any that I've ever done in my life incredibly
personal. It's about our family. We're in it, you know, all of that. Um, so I was down for it. And yes, in my in the kind of like most optimal outcome of this project, it would reach a level where there was news coverage and people would be talking about it and all that kind of thing. Did I like I had no idea if it would reach that, but I was willing to put in enough work to see if we could. And now it's kind of to some degree happening in that direction. So yeah, I mean I I certainly had that in mind from the first conversation we had.
Mom, and you know what? I think that goes Go ahead. I think that goes for anything like business included. Like you know, you have to it's like a slow burn, you know, for the podcast. you have to find your audience and all of that [ __ ] But it's the same for my business. Like we've been in this for I mean from home like over a decade and I'm just now reaching a point where it's like I have an audience and a brand and like you know people ask me all the time how did you succeed in like the restaurant world and how did you do I
literally just [ __ ] got up every day and did it. You know there were times where I wanted to I would look at
my husband and say like I'm [ __ ] done. and I'm not signing a lease. Like some terrible [ __ ] had just happened. Like there are moments that will literally [ __ ] break you, but you have to just commit. And I think that that would be my advice to people who how'd you do it? Like you literally wake up and [ __ ] do it. You just keep doing it. [laughter]
And and when we first started, I'm writing that book, by the way. I finished my cookbook and that I project to be a New York Times bestseller. Okay.
That's what I'm shooting for. But I'm writing two more books, so get [snorts] ready for those. Dang, girl. And you know what? When we first started this, it was like, "Okay, Chad's like, not personal stuff. Now, let's we're talking politics." But as we got into it, we do do more personal stuff.
Yeah, politics was a trap, I guess. So, and you know what? At this point in my life, I don't give a flying you know what I'll tell you whatever. show, at least in my mind, was always about using politics as a way to get us to have conversations about our family.
Mhm. Because at the beginning of this, you and dad would only talk about politics. It was the only conversation we could have with you.
Well, now that has changed because I think of the volume of times that we've done this. The amount of contact and conversation that we actually have with each other other in a weekly basis has never been like this.
Yeah. We have never talked to each other this much over the course of a week in our adult lives as we have since we've started the show. Now, let's move on. We got to get to the rest of these topics. Maha is our next topic. In the past month, America's food supply seems to be under attack as a massive iceberg lettuce recall had to be initiated due to a cycllospora contamination causing explosive diarrhea for approximately 10,000 people across 17 states with hundreds of hospitalizations. On top of that, a recent Salmonella outbreak caused Midwest Poultry Services to recall over 19 million eggs sold in
grocery stores across the country. And on top of that, a recent E.coli contamination of frozen blueberries required the recall of all lots of Green Wise organic frozen blueberries and mixed berries. The failure to keep our food safe is likely a direct result of Trump's cuts to the FDA and CDC, two agencies tasked with keeping our food healthy that have lost more than 7,000 employees since January 2025. And on March 24th, 2025, HHS announced it would cut 3,500 FDA staff, a 20% reduction, including inspections and investigations personnel. Trump's administration also lessened requirements for inspection of our food, lowering the number of microbes and parasites tracked by Food
Net, an early warning system from 8 to two, and cycllospora was among the parasites cut from routine screening. Mom, we've had three mass recalls of millions of berries, eggs, and pounds of lettuce. Do you think Trump is making our food safer to eat?
I don't. No, I do not. And I think I mean I know he cuts some of those programs you said, but I think as our population continues to grow, it's just going to get worse and worse. I wish I had my
Isn't the American population declining though? But that's his fault. Hang on. I wish I had my own land to plant my own food because I miss lettuce so bad. I've not been eating it, but I'm getting ready to go back. I need my lettuce.
Um, the grocery mega doodoo. What? Neither of you have gotten the the Hershey squirts, right? The DD mega doodoo. You've not seen that? No, I stopped eating less lettuce.
Do you not know anything about like the [ __ ] online? Do you never like catch those clips? The viral moments? Yeah. Well, it's the internet. I don't go on it at all.
You clearly don't. Oh my gosh. I I just want to say um hang on a minute. Wait, before you're saying this, you're you're already deflecting. You're saying like, "Oh, it's the population growing." No, no, no, no, no. He literally cut from the the eight microbes that are this tracking system called food net scour all the food and looks at what we've got in it and it one of the things that it detected for was cycllospora. He got rid of that. Now we have cycllospora outbreaks and people are [ __ ] the what is it the DD megadoo
dd megadoo Haley is saying. So as a direct result of something he cut now people are [ __ ] their [ __ ] pants. I haven't got the Gmail to do yet.
I want to add to this though. You remember the [ __ ] screw worm? Yeah. Yes. So, that is in full effect and a bunch of highkill Texas animal shelters are like slaughtering all of the animals
because of the screworm. So, like horses too probably, right? And cattle. Like it just it's going the distance. And so all of these cuts to the FDA, the CDC, all of that [ __ ] is now the ripple effect has happened. It's coming back upon us. People have the [ __ ] squirts. People are getting uh what was it? Is it lististeria, salmonillaa, our food, and the blueberries?
I think you have to be very careful. You had to even before all this what you eat. But mom, you've got RFK is the head of this [ __ ] agency who is obviously off of his rocker. They're cutting like they're just firing people at these agencies by the thousands. These are people whose jobs it is is to make sure our food is safe, to make sure that there are no diseases in our food. If you [ __ ] fire thousands of those people, obviously we're going to have diseases in our [ __ ] food. And this is a result of Doge and just trying to
suck money out of the governmental system to put it in his own pocket. And as a result, we now suffer. Yeah. Very scary. Very, very scary.
All right. No mention of Trump there coming for me, though. Speaking of scary, let's move on to topic number five. Deflocking. This week, push back from American citizens against the installation of flock cameras seems to be hitting a new level without ever allowing a vote or public input of any kind. Approximately 130,000 flock surveillance cameras have been installed on American streets. But as a result of recent public outrage, at least 100 cities have deactivated the cameras or canceled contracts as more and more regular citizens are cutting cameras down, putting tape over the lenses, or spray painting over them.
Halloween is being promoted online as Deflock America Night, urging people to disable, cover, or vandalize as many flock cameras as possible on October 31st, 2026.
The movement is uncoordinated with no clear organizer. Uh note that damaging cameras is vandalism could bring criminal charges. Protesters point to reports of officers misusing Flock data to stalk, harass, or track people without a warrant. There are also accuracy problems in Roseville, California. Flock reportedly misread license plates in 71% of stolen vehicle felony alerts and one innocent driver was surrounded by armed police after his Range Rover was misidentified. Flock is privately owned by co-founders Garrett Langley, Matt Fury, and Paige Todd, plus venture capital investors led by Mark Anderson, a prominent Trump supporter.
Mom, why do you think Flock is being allowed to put up so many cameras? Trump's getting paid and they want to [ __ ] surveil. They want to see everything we're doing.
The license plates is what it reads. Correct. No, it is just a camera. It anything that's in the camera. You can see people's faces. You can see whether they're coming and they're going. There have been a lot of things on
I thought it was the license plate is what it goes in to get No, police officers are using it to like stalk their exes. Like people are miss they're abusing it.
It's being sold as a license plate reader, but it is a camera. Anything the camera sees is what it sees. And cops have access to all of this. Citizens don't. But there have been a bunch of citizens online who are like, "Look how easy it is to just like get access to any flock camera. Anybody basically can do it. You can find a YouTube video about how to like hack a flock camera just from your computer and you can get on it and you can use it to see anything." Now, I will say this, there is outrage about this because these cameras are being put up without any
public input. There are no votes and so people are cutting them down, etc., etc. It is interesting to me though because we already live in a 100% total surveillance state whether flock exists or not.
Your cell phone, the camera on your computer, your TVs, you are being photographed and videotaped basically 24 hours a day without your consent. And that
uh footage, the audio, the NSA right now can just type your name into a search bar, hit enter, and they have access to everything you do on every device. They can monitor you live. They can look at all your emails, your text messages. We already live in a 100% locked and done surveillance state. So, why do you think people are so pissed about the flock cameras?
That's I don't know. Tell me. I really don't know. Haley Haley's gonna be on with her black spray paint at the flock camera.
[laughter] Why is everybody mad about? I think because it's it's new and it's something we had no choice, no say. Um despite the fact that we all know like after Edward Snowden did all that [ __ ] like we all know that we're being watched. We all know that that that's happening, but we're complicit because we love
we love the f the phone is an extension of who we are. Like our social media is an extension of who we are.
The cameras, I think, his face, what he's gonna say. Look at his face. I already know what Chad's gonna say by looking at his face.
I don't like the stories where I see them where I see them tracking uh women going across state lines to get abortions. You know, they're using it as like a tracking system for nefarious [ __ ] Um, we we live in a in a world
true. Is that true? 100%. They're like tracking women who are trying to get abortions and throwing them in [ __ ] prison. And so I start having problems when it's the improper use is is to track people. You know, that's [ __ ] illegal. You shouldn't be able to do that. I think people are mad because the cameras are right out in the open. The cameras that are tracking you 24/7 are a little more hidden.
You don't think about the camera on your phone or your computer as being like used to track you. They are um the flock cameras are literally like a camera on a [ __ ] pole just right in your neighborhood, you know, staring you down like big brother. And I think
more intrusive. Yeah. Yes. I think that is a a big part of it and the fact that you can just like cut it down as like kind of an act of defiance or whatever is becoming a kind of social movement. Um I just find it interesting that like and maybe too because cops can use the the flock system to like maybe it makes it a little easier for them to track.
There's a few steps they don't have to do, you know, [snorts] if they wanted to track somebody else in kind of more traditional means, I guess. But I do find it interesting that people are like they're using flock as the symbol of the surveillance state when it's like the surveillance state is already in full effect 100%. It's here. We have Palunteer, you have meta, we're we're doing it ourselves. We're surveilling ourselves. Every piece of social media that you make, if you're outside somewhere,
you're giving visual cues as to where you are, what time of day, there's metadata in the pictures you take, all that kind of [ __ ] and the and we have AI now which is going to be able to go through all of that data at a rate that human beings cannot to derive meaning from it in terms of where you are, when you are, what you're doing, all your credit card receipts, blah blah blah blah blah. Palunteers already doing it.
Um, so I find it interesting, but I also am very curious to see what happens on October 31st. Haley, we'll be there. Why Why do you keep saying that?
Hellraiser. You're gonna have your black spray paint out there spray painting them. Um, all right. We have one more topic here that I wanted to get to. Mom, you have said in in recent past episodes that you thought ice is kind of like retracting. Ice isn't as crazy as it used to be, right?
Our sixth topic is I know I don't see as much in the news, but I know what you're going to say because I read this topic. But you don't see as much in the news because Trump now controls a large portion of the news.
Okay. The Ellison family owns CBS, CNN, etc., etc. Tik Tok. Tik Tok is in the [ __ ] [ __ ] at this point.
Yeah, it's very bad. ICE breaks a new record. That is our final topic. ICE arrested 51,000 people in July, the largest single month in the history of the Department of Homeland Security. The surge came as Trump made a 2,000 arrest per day quota. The strategy shifted to high volume, lowerprofile operations at airports and traffic stops, including over 30 arrests at airports in July. While the arrests did target some alleged gang members and in one Texas operation, a Mexican national previously convicted of attempted kidnapping, sexual battery, and illegal re-entry, most of the people kidnapped by ICE had no criminal history and held valid work
authorization or parole documents. Independent reporting revealed 67% of ICE arrests were of people without criminal convictions and nearly 40% had neither convictions nor pending criminal charges. ICE has put over 6,200 children in their concentration camps, some of whom are under one year old and over 50 people have died in these concentration camps from lack of medical attention to easily treatable illnesses. Mom, why do you think they're arresting more people now than they ever have? If,
as Trump said in the beginning, we were going after all the bad people. Well, if they got them all out, why are they now making more arrests than than ever?
I I do not know. Tell me. I don't know. Because Trump is a cruel, racist piece of [ __ ] And Project 2025 is about the purification of America, trying to turn it into a white nationalist state.
It's also forprofit. like you know every prison system is a for-profit venture. So there are people making money off of this. They're trying to eliminate like all people of color from the United States.
I do not agree with you on that at all. Okay. Then why are they only putting um people from countries where people are not white in these concentration camps? Why don't you see them rounding up any I mean, [ __ ] you saw the thing where he let uh 10,000 white South Africans get asylum here,
right? And yet he's rounding up everybody who's not white. 2,000 people a day he's arresting. None of them white. [ __ ] Like what a few weeks ago they uh kidnapped like a She was a nun from some other country, but a person of color. Like they're literally putting like clergy in these concentration camps and children and they are all people of color.
We talked about that once on a Wednesday and I don't believe she would have sit she was a citizen. But why are the children being put in there? Because they either go with the parent or they go where?
Well, the parent shouldn't be in there. The parent shouldn't be in there. Well, for some reason, I guess they are. Yes. The reasons we've just explained to you, [clears throat] it's racism and it's money. The people who own the concentration camps get government money based on how many people are in the concentration camp.
So, give me as many as you can get. Many of the people who own these concentration camps are backers of Trump. That's why they get the contract to build and maintain the concentration camp. Many of them I am pretty sure I read this. I could be wrong about this, but I'm I'm let me actually make sure, but I believe they are um no bid contracts.
Yeah. So Trump just like gave the deals to his friends. Uh it's terrible. It's just terrible. Well, it's the same with our It's the same with our American prison system. It's all for profit. So like the more bodies you can stack in that prison, the more money people make off of it. It's why they're throwing people in there for like marijuana offenses.
Okay. So, you want rapists and murderers not to be in a prison and just roam the streets and let them get you. No, that's not what I said. I literally just said it's why they're throwing people in prison for [ __ ] like marijuana.
You look here. I I found this. US Immigration and Customs Enforcement awarded and extended several major detention facility contracts without competitive bidding, citing compelling urgency to rapidly scale up uh bed capacity and operations. Amen. A momentum Services, Inc. received a massive no bid contract and subsequent extensions worth over $1 billion to run the Fort Bliss Detention Center in El Paso. Core Civic and GEO Group, uh support administrative deals, blah blah blah blah blah. So, there's a bunch of these companies that are the people who own them are Trump supporters and Trump is just like, "Let him build it. Here's a billion dollars. Now, put as many
[ __ ] people in there as you can because that guy donated whatever $5 million to Trump's campaign or whatever, and this is the payback. This is what you get. It's a quid proquo." That's how this whole system works. So, it's just about this guy gave me money, so I'm going to give him taxpayer money to incarcerate innocent people in a [ __ ] concentration camp to kill kids.
I told you I'm against this. So, why are you beating me in the head each? Because there is an origin to all of this.
Me every week. The origin is Donald Trump. You're beating me up. No, it's it's like Haley's saying, the whole point of this at this point when I when we're talking about these topics, first of all, they're these are like things that came out of the news this week. So, these are topical things. And as we get more and more information that comes out every week about what Trump is doing in his administration, we talk about it. That's what this show is. And obviously, it has affected you over the past four years. You've gotten to a place where you are saying abolish ICE.
You want universal healthcare. You're against the war in Iran. you're ideologically like you're there. You see that these things he's doing are bad. And so I feel like if we just keep talking about them and show you kind of new ways that they are bad or the severity of how bad they are that eventually it's going to get you to turn that final corner and really see that all of this is being orchestrated by Trump and his allies for them to enrich themselves at the cost of our health and safety.
We will see. So, we're not beating you in the head. We're just telling you facts. We're showing you what is happening because I know Newsmax isn't showing you this [ __ ] They're not talking about any of this. Right.
Correct. Because they are a for-profit model and they know there is a a selection of the American population that wants to see the stuff they're saying, that supports Trump, and that ignores all the bad stuff. Okay. What I'll do next week, I'll watch Newsmax a bit and write down what they were telling me. How about that? We'll see if you agree with that.
If I agree with Newsmax. Yeah. Well, I can tell you now I'm not gonna [laughter] No, for me, dog. Newsmax. A little [ __ ]
Little pitch. Um, okay. Well, that wraps up our show. Thank you for joining us this week. Uh, Haley, I love you. Congratulations on all of your fame and successes. Mom, I love you. Thank you for doing me this show with us every week. And don't think that we're beating you in the head. We're not. We're just talking to you about this stuff. [clears throat]
Okay. Yeah. Okay. And please, please tell dad that we love him and we're looking forward to him coming back and calling us communists very soon.
Yeah. I love you. Mom, I love you. I love you. Tell dad I love him. Send me the name of that uh the horse sanctuary that you're telling people to donate to. Send me the name of that.
Yes, we're going to donate in Juwels's name. Let's do it together. Sky Dog Ranch. That would be a good one. I also want to donate to the one in LA. Um [snorts] Compton Writing Academy. Chad, you went to somewhere in California once and bought me a bracelet at a sanctuary for wild horses. Do you remember the name of that place?
No. Yeah. I have no memory of this event. [laughter] Oh my god. Are you serious? Are you serious? Yes. When a black bracelet with a magnet on it.
You and your girlfriend brought me that bracelet back from a horse sanctuary. Oh. Oh god. I'll wear it next week so you can see it. Maybe it'll jog your memory.
Um, I love you, Haley. I love you, Chad. I love Bob. He'll be back soon, I hope. And then I also forgot to thank everybody. There were a lot of DMs about the Wild Horses, and I appreciate it. You know, read this, Maryl. Can we help? Read this. How can we help? A lot of people did send me nice clips about it, and I read each and every one of them.
Now, when you send me bad stuff, uh, you are blocked and disowned. I'll just tell you that right now. Everybody else, thank you.
The majority of my fans are on Instagram, by the way. I don't care for Facebook [laughter] anymore. There you go. All right, we will see you uh next week and I will be here probably solo because neither of you join me anymore for a live tonight at 6 PM PDT right here on our YouTube channel. Join me for that. Maybe you'll be there, Mom. Haley, you're checked out.
I might be if I'm not too tired. I usually go to bed by 700 p.m., but I might stay up. Okay, bye. [music]
So, non-committal. There you go. See you tonight at 6 pm.