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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colchin and with me is my sister who just admitted she ate something bad last night and my parents Bob and Mary Lou who are deep in the QAnon MAGA conspiracy pit. We open the show with a diddy from mom. Do you have a diddy? Oh goodness. Yes. Caught me off guard. You usually don't call on me that quick. Calling uh there just a couple. Well, let's see. Okay, we'll start with this one. We need this as a um as a topic. We really haven't covered this and I would like to. I won't do it in a diddy, but I'm just telling you as a diddy. We need to cover this. The autopin auto pin Biden and his decline. It's not going away. It's only going to get worse, I think, because there's what? He's not the president anymore. Right. But during his decline, Uhuh. I want to know who was running our country. I think we all know. I think there's going to be an investigation. I think AIDS will be called forward. Maybe Joe Biden will be called forward. We're going to find out who was the autopin. I can't wait. Tapper's book, isn't it? Tapper. Yeah. He stated who he thought was running it, but there's a few other names that have been added in. So I would like to add that as a topic because also within his inner circle the people that knew about this decline if any of them uh let's say a Buddha judge wants to run for president someday no one's going to look at him as being honest and loyal because he lied. He was right there. He saw it all going on. Your current president lies every day and has 34 felony convictions. but he is president right now. Okay. So, I would like to do that topic sometime. My other diddy is NBA Finals. Thunder up. You know, dad and I, we don't like professional basketball. We don't watch it. Why not? We just never have. I don't know. He is more into college sports and Kansas State sports, but let me tell you, this city is buzzing. And they're they are now Thursday night play here against India Indiana Pacers. It's game one. When I clicked on tickets, holy moly, they go from 600. I would pay that up to 10,000 for a ticket. Yeah, that's a Taylor Swift concert. What? It's like a Taylor Swift concert. 10,000? Yeah. Wow. Um, the player that I said I liked was his name is Shai. It's S h ai. Um, SGA they call him. He's the best player on our team. And he, uh, is leading the the the whole league in scoring. He gets like almost 33 34 points a game in every game. He's a point guard. He's 6'6. His jersey is number two. So, good luck, Thunder. We like you. Wow. I didn't realize we were going to get a little sports thrown in the mix today. Yeah, I like the Thunder. I don't even I think I have one t-shirt. I need a current one. So, more importantly, Kansas State's still in the baseball tournament. Dad's been watching Kansas State. Yeah, there were a lot of upsets in that in the past couple of days. The number one got knocked out. The number two got knocked out. Um, all right. Well, thank you for that. I would like to start this show off by saying happy Pride Month. We begin that today is June 1st as we record this. I would like to also say happy graduation to your daughter Haley later today. I would also like to say happy anniversary to you and dad, mom. So we so we weren't number one or two. I like that. Okay. Thank you. There's no waiting when you know there's no order here. I was just saying yes there is. There always is order in the world. when you said and and our anniversary was two days ago. Well, I called I called bright and early. You were my first phone call. Yes, I know. Well, I'm wishing you happy anniversary on my first possible chance to do it on YouTube. And if you want to talk about order, I saved the best for last. How about that? All right, let me move on. Now, I want to ask us before we begin today's show, I want to ask a question and then we're going to have a listener question and then we're going to begin our topics. The question I want to ask is this and I don't want any of us to rebut anybody. I just want to hear each of our answers. What do you think is the role of government? mom. Gosh. To uh secure our to secure our country, to make it safe for us to live, to provide good health care, um places to live, good health care, and a secure country. Okay. Dad, secure the border. That's its only rule. Yeah. If you uh make it a sovereignty, everything else take care of itself. Okay. Haley, what is the rule of government? By the people for the people, what we ask for. We put them all in place and they should be doing what we ask for. A majority rule type scenario on every issue. Um I don't know. I mean, I hate government period. So I mean as it is I suppose all right my answer to this is I believe that a government should really do only one thing or three things if you want to look at it like this I suppose it's aid every human being on the planet in the pursuit of knowledge health and happiness happiness that's it that's all I think they should do uh I was just curious I just want to see where our baselines were and now let's begin the show with a question from a listener. If you have a question for us, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format and email it to the necessary conversation pod atgmail.com. Are you ready for today's question? And we don't see these ahead of time. So, and he also might point out that you always pick somebody liberal. These are the questions I get. Okay. What do you want me to do? Go. I'm going to tell some of my friends. Can you just not watch Newsmax? Can you just turn that TV off here? Turn it off. Like, it's such a big ass for you to not watch Newsmax for an hour a week. It's off. Go. Thank you. It's off. Here we go. And he's looking at you. Hey guys. Um, just an FYI, I've been tuning into your YouTube episodes every Sunday religiously for weeks now, and I've been an avid follower of your Instagram page for at least several months. And I love the conversations. I think it's super enlightening and great to hear it from both sides. Now, Haley and Chad, you guys are more than welcome to answer this question, but it's really geared towards Marylu and Bob. My question to you both, and I'd really like this question to be answered just completely uninterrupted, is why do you guys participate in this podcast? What is it that makes you guys show up every week to record these episodes? Um, and I'm curious about this because sometimes it seems like Bob isn't super interested and I'm just kind of surprised that he does it and I would just like to know kind of what angle Mary Lou comes at it with. Um, and so thank you guys so much and I hope that this makes it on. All right, there you have it. Mom, why don't you take this one? Why do you do this podcast? First of all, she's very pretty. What was her name? Did she say I don't think she's I do this podcast because two and a half almost three. Are we going on three? No. Two and a half years ago, you called me on the phone, you came up with this idea. What do you think? Do you think we'd be able to do it? Would you be able to do it, Mom? Mom, people will hate you. They'll love you. They'll think you're stupid. Will you be able to take that? Will you be able to handle it? And I made a commitment to you Chad two and a half years ago to do this. I have wanted you to to stop several times when I read some comments when I read read some comments that were wishing me and your father dead and six foot under. Why would I want to continue this? But like you have told me those people just see a snippet of us don't read the comments. But I do have two good friends from this podcast, too, that I never knew before. It's kind of weird. I kind of know who to answer, who to not answer when they say really bad things. Goodbye. Um, I made a commitment. That's why I'm doing the podcast. And I love my kids. I would do anything for them. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And do you think was my uh how I kind of prepared you for this before we ever even recorded an episode, was it pretty accurate in terms of the possible reaction you've experienced? No, I think the reaction that I have experienced is way worse than what you told me it was going to be. Sorry. Way worse. I'm like I mean I've been on the internet ever since you know the internet was here and but some of the lines the people are saying I don't like. Yeah. You know I just think the world now is a little bit more more ugly and biased and you know when I go in the grocery store and someone's there with a cart and I'll wait I'll wait politely thinking they're going to look at me and move it but if they don't I'll say hey I need to get through please. they'll turn around and say, "F you" and keep going. I think our world is like that now, and I don't like it. All right. Thank you for your answer, Dad. Why do you do this podcast every week? Because I figured that uh we needed one side of the coin that you wouldn't uh have if I wasn't here. Okay. So, you're doing it strictly to represent your political ideologies, nothing else. 100%. Okay. nothing about your relationship with your family or your kids. Oh, stop it. I mean, I just don't think that's true. I think you're acting it up a little bit here. He thinks, too, he's the star and if he's not on it, then you're not going to have the podcast. That's why you're participating. He may be right. All right, Haley, why do you do this podcast? Uh, I I feel like we leave all of it here, like we leave it on the field, so to speak, so I can have conversations with mom and dad outside of the pod that don't enrage both of us. Uh, I don't know if people know, but for a while, like we were not talking, Chad and I were not talking to our mom and dad. That's a scary feeling. Um, so I don't think there's anything like, you know, so important that I shouldn't be talking to my mom and dad. So I do the pod because I love my parents and I want to keep in contact with them and I want to know what's going on in their lives. Yeah, I feel the exact same way. That's why I started this whole thing and because I think I at some point stumbled into podcasting as like an art form that I really like and for me I was like it was a no-brainer. I was like, "We don't talk to mom and dad. We should talk to them on the internet." And uh yeah, for me, it primarily came from a a point of like wanting to have some kind of a relationship with you guys. And I think I was not anticipating exactly what you said, Haley. This podcast really does kind of distill all of our political animosity toward one another and it puts it here in this box so that it doesn't really exist outside of that which I think has been super beneficial to our relationship as a family. I can remember though where it where it did turn ugly. It was one night we lived in Houston and you had come home from California and I hear you and dad arguing out in the TV room. I opened the door cuz I'd gone to bed. Yeah. I was like, "This was during Obama." Yes. I think I remember this exact night. What the hell is happening here? And you guys were exploding on each other over politics. And so you kind of calmed down and went back to bed. And at that exact moment in time, I knew we were on opposite sides in politics. And then and at that m you know when I knew it was it was I don't know where you were living but it was when the Trump Access Hollywood tape came out and I was like you're not going to vote for this guy are you? And you're like yes I am. That's just locker room talk. And I was like oh [ __ ] they done got her. Yeah. I have a lot of people wait I have a lot of people come into the bakery and tell me that they literally like excommunicado. I will not talk to my family. I don't know how you do it. Um, and they're about my age, so that means their parents are probably about your age. And I always think it's quite foolish because as you age, you're going to need help from us. Like, we're it. We're here for you. And so to see people completely like abandon their parents over this [ __ ] is kind of [ __ ] mind-blowing. Um, I don't know. I don't know. I'll do it forever if I have to. I It doesn't bother me. My my bottom line with all this is I value our relationship as a family over any of our singular relationships with whatever politician we may worship as a god or not. And I think if you get into this headsp space where it's like I'm never talking to my family again because they voted for Donald Trump or whoever, Trump has won. has isolated your family member from you, sucked them into a cult, and you're never going to see them again, unless you're the one making the effort to to have that communication. All right, let's move on. One more thing. I've had a person text me, and this is one of my friends now. My what do you call it? If they're only my friend on the internet, what do you call it? You called it something that's not your friend. No. No. Oh, parasocial relation. Parasocial. That's if you're DMing with them. That's not parasocial. Parasocial is people who like will will watch a video of you. It's what we primarily have with all celebrities, all politicians. You're watching them talk through a screen to everyone, not to you specifically, but your brain is tricked into thinking they're talking to you directly. Well, this is my friend now, but it was through the podcast that she reached out. Yeah. And I didn't do Tik Tok at the time very much. Now I'm a Tik Tok queen. But anyway, she had tik tockked me. Tik Tocked me. And then I saw the message like a month later and I felt really bad because it was I don't talk to my mother anymore. Um she's one side, I'm the other. Can you tell me what I should do? I said, just keep trying. Keep trying. Just keep talking. Keep inviting her over. And now they and the mother had not seen her child that she had just had uh that was now a year old. And they kept talking and now the mom comes over. Now they have a relationship. That's great. Uhhuh. And she We must now move on with the show. We have six items to get to. The first one is the taco tariff trades. This week, the term taco trade became mainstream news when CNBC reporter Megan Cassella questioned President Trump about it during a White House press briefing. The term coined by Financial Times columnist Robert Armstrong in May uh in a May 2nd, 2025 opinion piece stands for Trump always chickens out and describes Trump's pattern of announcing outlandish tariffs causing market volatility only to later go back on his word reducing the amount of the tariffs or eliminating them altogether causing market correction. One example of this is Trump's initial promise of a 145% tariff on Chinese goods that he has since lowered to 30%. Despite the truth of the term, Trump was so offended by Cassella's question that he said, "Don't ever say what you said. That's a nasty question to me. That's the nastiest question. Stop it. Stop it." Dad, do you think it was a nasty question? I I think it's irrelevant. Tariffs are working. Yes. Okay. But the question that I'm asking you is, do you think that was a nasty question for the reporter to ask? No. Interesting. So, you agree you disagree with Trump there? What was the question exactly? Say it again. I don't disagree with Trump. Trump has his opinion and he thought it was nasty. What was it again that she asked? She asked basically what he thinks of the term taco trade and he's like, "I've never heard that." And she goes, "It stands for Trump always chickens out." He's like, "No, I have not had that." That's a nasty question. It's to me it's the nastiest question. Okay. Do you think it was it was the nastiest question? It wasn't a very polite and nice one, but it wasn't nasty. He's just such an egoomaniac. Like anytime anything said like, "Yeah, he's a baby." That's your idea. That's your what you believe. Okay. So, within minutes of this happening, and we're going to get to a topic a little bit later about his bromance with Putin kind of falling apart, um, this idea that Trump can be prodded, that somebody can say one little thing and it throws him off his game and makes him cry and is very babyish. Uh, Russian bots have now kind of latched on to this on the internet and they're saying that he has dementia and he's unfit and blah blah blah. Do you think that like the world reaction to seeing his reaction to this taco trades thing? How do you think other countries are looking at this? Mom, not thinking the things that you just said. I don't think they're blowing it out of whack or anything. He just told her. I think he shouldn't have said nasty question. He should have said it's not irrelevant. Moving on. Yeah. But the way he handled it, you're admitting it was childish. Not childish. It was the wrong words. He used wrong words. Okay. Dad, do you think his reaction to this makes him uh seem strong to other countries? Yeah, I think it makes him afraid of him. In what way? Other country. Other countries are totally afraid of Trump. Okay. In what way? Well, look what he does to them. They all bend over at the end of the game with the tariffs. What country so far has has bent over, do you think? China. They've reduced all their tariffs down to 30%. No, Trump has reduced tariffs on China. That's right. And they follow. They are too. Okay. Um, let's move on to our second topic. Elon's black eye. Elon Musk showed up with a black eye for his final press conference before abandoning his role as the head of Doge. Musk lasted what? He just said he got punched. Go ahead. Musk lasted 130 days, which reports are revealing were fueled by excessive drug abuse, including ketamine, ecstasy, and psychedelic mushrooms. When questioned about these allegations during the press conference, Musk refused to answer. He attempted to explain away the black eye by saying his son hit him. However, Steve Bannon admitted that Musk assaulted Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant during a heated exchange over unmet savings promises leading to uh assume that the fight leading people to assume that the fight was cause the cause of the black eye. Sorry, it's like [ __ ] 7 a.m. Uh Musk and Trump promised the American people that Doge Are you with us? Yes. Yeah, I've been here since 4. Poor baby. Go ahead. Trump and Musk promised us that Doge was going to cut$2 trillion from the federal budget. At the time of Elon Musk abandoning Doge, they are claiming $ 160 billion saved. But these cuts are projected to cost taxpayers up to 135 billion due to mismanagement and flawed accounting. Okay, I have some questions. Mom, how do you think Elon Musk got the black eye? We were not there. Nobody was. I have to believe what I have to believe what he said there with Trump in the Oval Office that the son hit him in the eye. Okay. He said, "I told my son just hit me for fun and the sun went boom." Yeah. Hit me in the eye. Dad, how many times did I give you a black eye? Uh, ever. Not ever. Correct. You should have said once when you asked him to give you the black eye. when we were arguing about Treasury Secretary. Dad, how do you think Elon Musk got the black eye? His kid punched him. Haley, how do you think he got it? I believe Steve Bannon. I do, too. Where was that at? I never saw that even in the news. Is that in a clip or anything? Yeah, Google it. It's everywhere. I'll have to Google that one. Plenty of people wrote about this. Steve Bannon came out and said Elon Musk shoved the Treasury Secretary and that potentially led to this altercation. And nobody's talking about obviously the the black eye that came from it, but that seems likely to me. Um, Mom, let me ask you this. Do you think it's smart to give a person who does illegal drugs every day access to every American's private financial information, social security information, and medical records? We've gone over this. We just went through 12 years of it. What? Oh, we just went through 12 years of the president's taking illegal drugs and now it's not even the Excuse me. President, it's a it's a it's a the Doge guy. Excuse me. Excuse me. What? President Joe Biden did not have access to any of these systems that Elon Musk does. He took cocaine. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Once again, President Joe Biden did not have access to any of these systems that Elon Musk does through Doge. Good. He was So, so the argument you have just used, right, does not work. Yeah, it does. I'm going to ask No, it doesn't. It does. I'm granting you that Joe Biden was a drug addict worse than Elon Musk, which is not true. I'm granting you that. Now, somebody like It wasn't him. We're gonna find out who had the cocaine. I truly believe I'm not asking about any of that. Elon Musk is now 100% reported, corroborated to be a massive drug addict, high on all kinds of [ __ ] during the campaign and during all 130 days of his tenure as the head of Doge. May I ask? I'm saying, where are you getting this information? I have seen none of this. It's reported widely. They say that he can't pee anymore properly because he used so much ketamine. You can literally go watch videos of him like during that that whole time frame. He's out of his mind. He's like yeah nashing his teeth just staring into space, head loling around. It's very clear. I mean, we don't know. We're not him. If it is, he's bowing out. Good. Gone. Bye. No, this is what you're not getting. He's not bowing out. If he wasn't doing his job, Trump would ask him to leave. It's probably what happened. He's leaving, but Doge is still there. He still put all people in place in Doge. His companies now have access to all the data that's coming from all these different systems that Doge has their software in, which by the way is a straight funnel to a guy named Peter Teal, who co-founded PayPal with him. Peter Thiel owns and operates a company called Planeteer. Do you know or Palunteer, sorry. Do you know that company? No. Oh, Jesus. Palunteer is like a uh it's an AI and software company run by this guy Peter Teal who wants to demolish democracy and replace it with a technocracy. They have software on every major government platform systems, every branch of the military, ICE, FBI, CIA, all of it. They're just sucking all that data into a giant AI database that they're going to use to restructure America. I think the word that you converiting, he no longer will have it. Do you think that the software he put on those computers he doesn't still have access to? I don't know. We I don't know. He does 100%. But this none of this is even my question. My question you never liked him, Chad. So, you're gonna you and Haley have never liked him from the beginning. I I loved Elon Musk in the beginning when he first kind of became famous and it was like he was making electric cars and wanted to go to space and he's making robots and he's trying to put chips in people's brains. I was down with all that [ __ ] I thought he was like Iron Man. He was like a real life superhero once he started going the path of a uh Dad. You okay? Yeah. I'm just stretching my neck. He's in a damn recliner that he can't sit up in. And it's We need a better stage here, a studio. Okay, let's move on to the next question or the next topic here. Yep. Pardons. This week, Trump fired Elizabeth Oyer, the US pardon attorney since 2022, and appointed loyalist Ed Martin to the position to make pardoning his allies easier. Ed Martin, for those who don't know, uh, defended I don't know how many of the January 6th insurrectionists. Trump has pardoned over 1,600 people, most of which were convicted for their roles in the January 6th attempt uh at insurrection. But he has also notably pardoned Scott Jenkins, a former Virginia sheriff convicted of corruption. He has pardoned Todd and Julie Chrysley, reality TV stars convicted of a $30 million fraud scheme. He has pardoned Michael Grim, former New York congressman who pleaded guilty to tax evasion, openly admitted it. And Paul Walchek, a Florida healthcare executive convicted of tax fraud after openly admitting to misusing over $7 million in employee payroll taxes from 2016 to 2019, funneling the funds into personal luxuries, ultimately causing the IRS to lose more than $10 million. His 18th month prison sentence and $4.4 4 million restitution were voided by the pardon which followed his mother Elizabeth FGO paying $1 million for a ticket to a fundraiser at Mara Lago. Okay, you follow that? Yes. All right, Dad. Many of these people have openly admitted to committing the crimes that they were convicted of. Why do they deserve to be pardoned? because he thinks they're okay. These are people who again have confessed to committing federal crimes. Trump thinks they're uh qualified to be pardoned and that's good enough for me. Okay. Mom, why do you think these people who have confessed to criminal activity should be pardoned? Every president pardons people. If like what dad says, if he thinks these people were put in prison without due course, due course or fairness, then it's his opinion he can pardon them. I want to say one thing, and I know you're going to say, "But that he's not the president." Now, Biden was pardoning people an hour prior to President Trump, including his son. I don't agree with that either. He pardoned his son back in December and then by the time he was done with all his pardons in four years, 8,049 people he pardoned. Trump's not near that many right now. He's on a thousand something. I'm I am totally in agreement with you. I don't think Biden should have pardoned his son. But we're talking about what Trump is doing right now. Yes. Okay. He's pardoning people who admitted to the crimes. Okay. And and so when you're saying, hang on, hang on, hang on. When you're saying these people might not have gotten due process, not only did they get it, they confessed to doing the crimes. Same with pardons by other presidents, including Biden. If you look on the government page of the ones that Biden pardoned, they were all drug offenders. There were some sex offenders in there, and they were for real. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. You you always do this thing where you're like, "Well, other presidents did it." But then you say, "But Trump's not like other presidents. He's better than them." But yet, he does all the same [ __ ] they did. He does pardons. Every president does a pardon. That's all I'm going to say. Move on. Um, most of his pardons came to people that were involved in January 6 so far, but some haven't. But some haven't, like this guy Paul Walchick. Okay. So, do you see a connection with Paul Walchek's mother giving Donald Trump $1 million? Yes. And then he pardons him. Yeah. And they're saying the same thing for Biden's not talking about Joe Biden. We're not talking about Joe Biden. I'm telling you it's okay for Donald Trump to to pardon them based on the fact that their mother gave a million dollars. Okay, hold on. Hold on. No, no, wait, wait, wait. I want to get I want to ask dad a follow-up question real quick. So, you don't see that as corrupt that you can just if you have a million dollars, you can just give it to the president? That's not who you're talking talking about being corrupt. I don't think Donald Trump can be corrupted by a million dollar donation. Okay, here's clearly was that's literally what has happened here. I don't think so. You know what a pardon for? He was going to pardon him anyway. No, he didn't even know who this guy was until his mom showed up and gave him a million dollars. Well, there you go. Okay, listen. A pardon for a pardon. Now, listen to this. So, Trump pardons the January 6 people, right? Yeah. Biden pardoned all of the people that were on the committee that put him in prison. So, there you go. Pardon for pardon. What you going to do? He pardoned every single person involved in the committee that put them in prison. They belonged in prison. What? They belonged in prison. Oh, okay. They did not. But anyway, then Trump has to pardon them to get out. So, what I'm saying, pardon for pardon, whatever. All right. Let me ask you this about um Paul Walchick. Mom, that man owed the United States government $4.4 million. His mom gave Trump a million and now that's gone. That debt's gone. Do you think it's fair that that guy doesn't have to pay back the $4 million that he owed the government that he owes Donald Trump? Yeah. No, I don't. No, I don't. Okay. Interesting. Dad, you were nodding. You do think it's fair. Yeah. Why? Because a million dollars for $4 million. He didn't do it for the money. Who didn't? Trump. He did. No, he did not. He was literally paid a million dollars to pardon this guy. No, he wasn't. That's your opinion. That's literally what happened. His momion people at that place that paid a million dollars for a plate for a He only does things for gain. Like that is the name of his game. Well, that's your opinion. Okay, move on. It's not an opinion. I'm literally telling you the facts. All right, moving on to a simmer down. This has been kind of a more subdued episode. I will say we haven't gotten uh too heated up here, but nonetheless, let's simmer down. Anyways, I would like each of us to go around and recite our favorite lines from uh one of our favorite movies, whatever that may be. Mom, why am I always first? Dad. All right. Yippy Kai, [ __ ] Die Hard. That's a good one. That is a good one. That's it. That's all you got? That's all I got. I have a whole list. I love movies. Okay. I I love movies. I bet you've got some of mine. Go ahead. You go. Th This was just like me when I went and read your, you know, when you send us the [ __ ] to get ready for this. Like, this is an impossible question because I love so many movies. So, I wrote off the top of my head what I could think of. Okay. So, a movie called Point Break, right? It's one of my favorite movies. Yeah. The the original. Yep. It's not tragic to die doing what you love. If you want the ultimate rush, you got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. That's all. Then we go to another Patrick sees. Dirty dancing. You can't win no matter what you do, Johnny. I say that at the bakery every day. Everybody's down. That's nobody puts baby in a corner. That's dirty dance. Just put your pickle on everybody's plate. college boy and leave the hard stuff to me. I say that every day to my employees. That's a funny one. Uh, okay. You'll know this one. Mom, don't talk about me like I'm not here. It's still Magnolia. Still Magnolia. Shall be named Juice. Juice is better. Yeah. So, that's a good one. Um, uh, Pulp Fiction has a whole bunch. But anyway, um, Keanu Reeves. Keanu just because it's like a terrible line and point break. I am an FBI agent. He literally delivers it just like that in the movie. You're welcome. Um, this one I use all the time. Also, if you've seen Legends of the Fall, Anthony Hopkins at the end has had a stroke and he just goes screw. Yeah, screw him. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Um, she doesn't even go here. We use that a lot at the bakery. It's Mean Girls. Yeah. And then um one of my favorite quotes maybe ever of any movie of all time. Dinosaur eats man woman inherits the earth. What is that? Jurassic Park. I don't know that one. My lines you're going to know right away. Some of Haley's I didn't know. There's no place like home. Yeah, I think we know that one. Okay. Because I'm a Kansas girl. And then I had Nobody puts baby in a corner. Wax off. Wax off. Okay. I'll be back. What? I'll be back. Is that a zombie? That is that Yeah. Is that Arnold Schwarzenegger? Is that your best? I'll be back. I'll be back. Yeah. I feel the need for speed. No, I feel the need. The need for speed. For speed. Okay. Love means never having to say you're sorry. What is that? See, these are movies that you guys weren't even born. That was the love story with Ellie McGra, right? I'll be your huckleberry anytime. Huh? Close. It's just I'll be your huckleberry. I'll be your huckleberry. Val Kilmer tombstone. Show me the money. A lot of TC going on. Yeah. There's no crying in baseball. What is that accent? There's no crowing in baseball. Life was like a box. I didn't realize that was a British Australian movie. That's Tom Hanks. All right. Almost drawing in baseball. He was drunk. Life. Okay. Was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get. All right. Little Tom Hanks. Nice. Uh, I had not I wrote this question. I prepared nothing. I like this one. Halloween ain't till mñana. Yeah, that's the crow. What's that? That one has a lot of good oneliners. Um, there's of course a million Schwarzenegger. You know, my favorite ones are probably from the Running Man. Now, Subzero Plane Zero. Remember that one? Remember this one? Subzero. This B. No, he played Dr. Freeze. This buzz saw has been a part of me for 30 years now. I'm gonna make it a part of you. That's right. Keep it. I think dad won this one. Huh? You don't have any JeanClaude Vanam. Yippy Kanye [ __ ] Why? Those guys were so piss off at me. I told them your You say their mother smells like a goat. Why you do that? That's I know one. Good morning, Vietnam. Wait, wait. Can you just say that again? Mom, good morning Vietnam. Isn't that Isn't that Yeah, I like the way you're saying it's like good morning Vietnam. Vietnam. It was good morning Vietnam. All right. Uh, thank you for indulging that, Dad. And next time instead of a sing off, we need a dance off because I'm going to win that ACL in my knee. I would. Let's move on. Our fourth topic for today's program is the end of the bromance. This week, Trump seems to have completely changed his attitude about Putin and Russia. In a series of statements and truth social posts, Trump said, "I've always had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia, but something has happened to him. He's gone absolutely crazy." And missiles and drones are being shot into cities in Ukraine for no reason whatsoever. He is needlessly killing a lot of people. And he also said, "What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean really bad. He's playing with fire." Trump issued a two-week ultimatum for Putin to demonstrate a genuine commitment to peace. Warning that failure to do so would compel the US to quote, "respond a little bit differently." in response to Trump's threats. Dimmitri Medave Medv that's I'm It's so early. My apologies. The deputy chair I'm like loopy. I feel like I'm on drugs like Elon Musk. Poor baby. He's the deputy chairman of Russia Security Council. He said, "I only know of one really bad thing. World War II. I hope Trump understands this." That's my Russian like an Ivan Drago. Yeah, that's good. If he dies, he dies. Okay, get on to the question at the end. Jesus. [ __ ] Sorry. Uh, Dad, now Trump just said all these things. Do you still want Russia to win the war? Yes. So, you're going against Trump now? No. Trump has I just read all these things that he said. Yeah. He's going to uh see to it that Putin wins. He's telling Putin, I I can only read this to you again. Very bad things will happen. Right. Not to Russia. That's literally who he's talking to. He's That's right. He's a little sour grapes on him right now, I think, on Putin. Trump said, "Vladimir Putin doesn't realize if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia." And I mean really bad. He's playing with fire. You think that means Trump is supporting Russia? I think Trump will eventually, he knows the only solution to the problem that you got over there is that Russia takes the Ukraine. Yeah. Russia takes the Ukraine. Yeah. They're going to give Russia the Ukraine eventually. Okay. You know, you know what I'm scared about? This is kind of switching gears, but I saw Zillinski's Zalinski's got no game. I saw on TV that um now we're gonna going to have to help Taiwan because they're going to be invaded very quickly. Imminent. Imminent. The invasion of Taiwan is imminent. And that scares me right there. We don't need to get in another war. Wait a minute though. So are who do you back in that war? Do you want China to win that war? Hell no. Okay. But you do want Russia to take Ukraine. But they're going to win. You think they'll win Taiwan? Yes. Oh god, that'd be scary. Okay, Mom. Do you think that Trump is still supporting Russia after all these things he said? Not Not 100%. I think he's telling him, "You better wake up here if you want me to keep trying to make peace." Haley, do you think that there has been a change here? Yeah. Yeah. And then Russia said, "Okay, World War II." I just want it over because I just I mean, I'm glad to see it. I'm glad to see that we're not [ __ ] buddy buddy with Russia. I'm happy to see it. I don't want World War II, but like [ __ ] thank God we're not friends with Putin anymore. That's great. I agree. Um, Dad, well, I guess this question I can't even ask you. Mom, I'll ask it to you. Why do you think Trump is turning on Putin now? Just I don't know. Just from the things that I've been reading, I think he's getting frustrated that, you know, he's trying to be the mediator, get this war over one way or another, and quit all the killing. He doesn't want people killed. Neither do we. So, some way this has got to end. I mean, some way it will end. Obviously, as you remember, he campaigned on the fact that Trump really doesn't care about all the people getting killed. That's true. No, I I don't think he does. I don't think he does either. I do. No. And you're good with that. What he's doing is he's he's throwing out the verbiage and in the what do you call it? It's the rhetoric to get everybody to think, oh, he's he's for uh and he's not. Sinsk's puppet. He's done. You think all the things Trump is saying now is like some kind of trick? Yes. Oh, it's to get everybody It's to get everybody thinking that he's going to turn on Putin. And I guarantee you when this is all over, Putin will own the Ukraine. Yeah, probably. Why do you think he wants to have people think he's turning against Putin if he's not really? Because what it'll do is it'll give all all the people that are supporting Zalinski, it's going to give them, oh, we got hope and Zalinski's in on it. Okay. But what what is the hope good for? Just to drag this out a little bit longer so that Putin doesn't fire one of the big ones in there. But in dragging it out longer, don't you increase the odds of something catastrophic happening? I mean, not that it hasn't already. Him, him and Putin are in agreement. It's already been decided. Zalinsky and Putin. No, he thinks Putin and Trump and Trump. You said Zalinski's in on it, though. Yeah, he is. So, it's Zalinsky, Putin, and Trump do you think are orchestrating? No, I think Putin and Trump are in it together. And I think Zalinski is more than willing to give up the fight because all he's doing is building him a nice retreat and resort on the Polish border. Okay. But you said he's in on it. What does that mean? Means he's he's all for getting the war over and giving the Ukraine to the Soviets. Why hasn't he done that yet then? Because he doesn't have to yet. It hasn't come to the point where they're going to fire the big one on him. How many people have died as a result of this? If his end goal was just to give up again, Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] No, but Zalinsky does. Dang. Okay. No, he doesn't. That's where you That's where your whole theory That's where my theory falls apart. That's where the It's where the whole world's theory falls apart. Okay. You think that you are seeing some secret truth in this that the rest of the world cannot see? Yes. Superman. Okay. Superman. All right. No, it's not that the world can't see it. They just don't want to see it. They don't think so. Oh, okay. My apologies. Let me ask you one more question about this. Uh, Russia has essentially said the next step here is World War II. Mom, are you okay with World War II? No, I don't like war at all. You know this. No war. All right, we need to stop these wars. It's stupid. Dad, are you okay with World War II? Yep. Oh, God. We need one. Why do we need World War II? Eliminate human beings. And why do we need to do that? Cuz there's too goddamn many of us. There aren't though. Why do you think that there are Why do you think that? Because we're running out of everything. Such as food. Are we? Yeah. When's the last time you missed a meal? It's not me. Other countries. Uhhuh. You'll ask the same thing to a China or Indian starving people. But you understand we have enough resources globally to feed and house every person. Yes, we do. The fact of the matter is all of the resources sucked to the top 0.01%. You'll sit here and tell me that the state of California can feed itself. It cannot. Okay. There is enough food and resource globally to feed and house every human being. We don't believe. The fact of the matter is that's not true. There's like a thousand people who have a million times the amount of resources that they need or that any other person has. Oh, you want to be a socialist? Yeah. Now I see where he's going. You want to be a communist? No, don't bring that. If the alternative is a World War III that, as you put it, needs to eliminate people, then yes. I would rather be a socialist or a communist if it means more people get to live. No. Okay. Okay. Good one. People got to go. We haven't fought very much, so move on. Our next topic is Harvard. This week, Trump took uh his fight with higher education one step further by revoking Harvard certification to enroll international students, citing allegations of fostering an unsafe campus environment and non-compliance with federal regulations. The Department of Homeland Security accused Harvard of permitting anti-American and proterrorist activities, particularly involving foreign students. And is he leaving? Let's go to the bathroom. Go ahead. And of failing to provide requested information about student conduct. Harvard challenged Trump in federal court, arguing that the action was retaliatory and violated the university's rights. On May 23rd, US District Judge Allison D. Burroughs issued a temporary restraining order blocking the DHS's decision, allowing Harvard to continue enrolling international students while the case proceeds. Subsequently, Trump backed off, granting Harvard 30 days to respond to the allegations. Haley, do you think Harvard is going to survive Donald Trump? Yes. Yeah. You think they will win ultimately? I do. I think this is kind of like the stand. This is this the line in the sand. Education uh universities are now having to [ __ ] assert themselves because there is a division. He literally [ __ ] wants to dismantle education in our country. I totally agree. And uh Peter Teal and all the guys who were like part of that um what is it called? the Dark Enlightenment or whatever. All of those guys have targeted the New York Times and Harvard. Those are two bastions. They're like, "If we can take these down, yeah, we control the whole thing." I don't think they will. You don't think they'll go down? This one This one is really, huh? They think Harvard will survive. No, it won't. Okay, this is dad's question. I'm glad he's back. Here he Oh, god. Here he is. Harvard will not survive. And you're good with that? You want Harvard? I'm absolutely 100% behind. Why? If I could do anything to help make it happen faster, I would. Don't you Why? It's the obviously the oldest most corrupt piece of [ __ ] organization on planet Earth. Okay. Why do you want it to You want it to no longer exist. That's correct. No more Harvard. Why? Because they're anti-semitic. They've broke every rule known to man. They tried to run our our system in the ground. There's I can go on and on. What rule? What rule did they break? Every rule known to man. Yeah. They murder people. What are you talking about? They make the rules because they're What rules? the rules that everybody goes to a Ivy League institution follows such as Can you tell me one of these rules? Anti-semitism. That's a rule. They're going to teach you everything. That's their rule. That you're just making things up. Was it Harvard? No, I don't think it was. What was What was the college that kept the Jewish kids out of uh one classroom and in the last I don't know. wouldn't even let him in. I don't know. We're getting lost in the weeds here. Symbolically, Harvard is the oldest university. The weeds. The weeds are that Harvard is a big [ __ ] weed and it's going to get whacked. Yeah. All right. It's the oldest university in America. It's That's correct. University America. It is widely regarded globally as one of the top academic institutions in the world. It was to get done. It ain't anymore. It attracts the brightest minds in a wide array of different academic fields to come from all over the world to study here in America which makes them far more likely not from here which makes them far more likely to stay in America to pursue the fruits of that education creating technology all kinds of scient but along a as they're here then they protest against our country and they don't country do you Okay. No, they don't. Hang on a minute. A, they don't. But B, you think protests are bad? That's one of the fundamental American rights. It's freedom of speech. When it happens on co when it happens on college campuses and it's against other religions, other u Harvard's a melting pot of [ __ ] So you want religious freedom you're talking about in America? I'm talking about Harvard is a melting pot of [ __ ] protests that hurt other people and it will be dissolved. You watch. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Do you see a problem with if Harvard goes down, if the Trump administration successfully somehow chokes off their funding, gets some law passed that makes it impossible for Harvard to do business or at least in a a drastically diminished way? Do you see at all how that will be bad for America? Not one bit. Okay. Do you think all colleges, dad, should be eliminated? Uh, all the Ivy League schools, yes. Why is that? Because they preach the same [ __ ] Harvard does. Okay. They take their marching orders. So once Harvard goes once Harvard goes down the [ __ ] the rest of them will be petrified. These schools historically get government funding for all kinds of programs that advance us in medicine, technology, and they shouldn't. You don't want advancement in medicine and technology. Don't need it. Oh my gosh. Huh? Wait a second. You're saying you don't think we need advanced from Harvard? You guys seem to think that Harvard and the Ivy League schools are the only people in the world who have medicine. It's [ __ ] We don't think that they're the only people in the world. You just said it. All right. Okay. You don't think we need medical technology? You said it. You said you don't think we need advances in medical tech. No, you said we don't need advances in medical, not from Ivy League schools. Okay, move on. We need final topic. You can get you can get same [ __ ] if we funnel billions of dollars into state run schools. Uhhuh. Instead of Ivy League schools, we'll get the same we'll get the same deal. As a result, universities all over the world now are kind of ushering in like a new era of, you know what, United States, if they won't [ __ ] accept you, we will. So, we want all of your next brightest and best, and we're getting ready to be left in the [ __ ] dust cuz all the smart people are going to go elsewhere. There's now going to be a break in the pipeline of the ultra smart students from all around the world who would have come to Harvard or really any American college at this point are saying, "Fuck it. I'm not going there." And I think they're all going to wind up in European colleges. And I I really think what is happening as a result of Trump right now is we're seeing the seed be for a European renaissance. I think Europe is going to explode with technological innovation in the next 10 to 15 years. Let's move on to our final topic. AB Hernandez. This week, a 16-year-old athlete named AB Hernandez lazy. This week, a 16-year-old athlete named AB Hernandez won two events at the California Interscolastic Federation or CIF High School Track and Field State Championships. Her participation enraged Trump, who posted this. I'm going to read the entire post. This is him verbatim. California under the leadership of radical left Democrat Gavin Newum continues to illegally all caps allow all caps men to play in women's sports. This week, a transitioned male athlete at a major event won everything and is now qualified to compete in the state finals next weekend. As a male, he was less than average competitor. As a female, this transition person is practically unbeatable. All caps. This is not fair and totally demeaning to women and girls. Please be hereby advised that large-scale federal funding will be held back maybe permanently if the executive order on this subject matter is not adhered to. The governor himself says it is un all caps and in quotes unfair. I will speak to him today to find out which way he wants to go. Question mark question mark. In the meantime, I am ordering local authorities if necessary to not allow the transition person to compete in the state finals. This is a totally ridiculous situation. Triple exclamation point. Hernandez won first place in the girls high jump and triple jump and second place in the long jump, not winning everything as Trump mentioned. In a response to Trump's post and the ensuing controversy, the CIF implemented a new policy that allows additional biological female athletes who narrowly misqualification to compete and ensured that podium placements for cisgender girls were preserved regardless of transgender athletes performance. Trump threatened to withhold federal funding from California unless the state barred transgender athletes from competing in girls sports. California law, however, established in 2013, allows transgender students to participate in sex segregated school programs and activities, including sports consistent with their gender identity. Dad, you're rolling your eyes. Do you think allowing AB Hernandez to compete in this event was breaking the law? Yes. But you're constantly talking about law, especially in gender and uh reproductive laws from California. They don't apply to anybody. Well, they apply to everybody who lives in California. Yeah, that's your problem. This whole thing is [ __ ] rich because it's Donald Trump trying to protect women and girls. Yeah, that's [ __ ] hilarious. Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to I want to get to dad for a second again. You are constantly talking about states rights and most issues should be kicked down to the states. Whatever their laws are is what goes right. The only state there are only two states that the state laws don't apply to in these situations. It's California and New York. Why is that? Because they don't have the right laws. Okay. So then you're not for states rights. I'm for all states but those two. Okay. Okay. So then you're not for states rights. I'm not for California and New York having any rights. So then you're not for states rights. They're foreign countries as far as I'm concerned. I want you to admit then you are not for states rights. I'm for states rights except for two states. Then you're not for states rights. If you if one state stop it for foreign countries. The governor himself said it's unfair. He has stated that foreign countries then he's got to change the law doesn't he? There's only one way to change this. That's right. But here's how it needs to be. And I've stated this before. I was a college athlete. If that happened to me, if a boy who transitioned to be a girl decided to play in a state tournament and make my spot lower down and knock me out, not able to go to a state tournament, I would be very upset. There's only one way. I would be livid. Well, that's not what happened. College. Even worse as a college, I would be livid. That's not what happened. Boy that transitioned to a woman tried to beat me in the sport I was playing in college. I would be livid. I would I would I don't know what I would do. I would be enraged. Okay. There needs to be sporting events for men only, women only. It is. And then transgender only. Transgendered people, play your own sport. Get that f out of women's and men's sports. But you you understand there's not enough gendered. You were born either a male or a female and you have transgendered and changed. You're trying and you're also trying to legitimize it because he didn't win everything. He only got first in everything but one. He got second. Here's the deal. Not everybody was happy. That doesn't make it legitimate. Not everybody was happy with him being in that competition. There was an airplane going over saying stuff, girls in sports only for girls sports or something. There were people protesting it. Um the mother of that person got in a fight with another person there that was in charge of the school district. I think people are not happy about this. It needs to be changed. It's ridiculous. They did change it. The thing you're talking about, mom, that was a transgendered That was a boy born transgendered into a girl. Now, here's my question. When did it transgend? When did that person transgender? Was it eight months ago? If so, it still has a lot of testosterone in it and would be able to beat all those girls. That's not right. It's stronger. That person is stronger than a girl. stronger, but he's also But he's also weak. Hang on, Dad. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Compared to other men. Hang on. Hang on. What you have called AB Hernandez it probably a dozen times on your tie. I was trying to say boy, but it makes me upset. It's a He's a boy. He's an it. He's a boy. But you understand that you dehumanize this person who is a human being. That's correct. When you say that, dad, I understand you're written off, but mom, I don't think that you actually feel that way. You know, AB Hernandez is a human being, right? Actually, I feel very strongly against this. I feel very strongly against it. Okay. How do you feel about he thinks is a girl that now he has transgendered to a girl? You can put all the earrings on him you want. You can put all of the jewelry. You can put false eyelashes on him. That is a boy, not a girl, playing in that that sports arena. And he's not good enough. And he's not good enough to compete with men. So that's why he did that. As I was a college athlete and in high school, none of that happened. That's why he did that. None of that. You can transgender. You can transgender without going into sports. Those those men that go into women's sports are there for one reason only. They're not good enough to compete with men. The only thing they had when I played in college, um, athletics was hang on, hang on, Dad. We have to address this. Nobody does that. AB Hernandez. They all do it. Hang on, Dad. Wait a minute. You think AB Hernandez was sitting around thinking, "You know what I should do with my life? pretend to be a woman so I can compete in track and field, the sport that will yield no financial benefit even at the highest level%. No. Why? Why would anyone do that? Why Why would he not do that? Why would he Why would he There's no [ __ ] benefit in it to a damn girl when he can't compete with men. Jesus Christ. Compete. If you're if if what you were saying is true, he wouldn't need to be in sports. You're waking Kitty up. So, you think no transgender person should be able to be an athlete? Yes. They need to be in their transgender. There is no infrastructure that's going to be like, "Okay, we're going to have a boy sport, uh, women's sport, and then a trans dad, can you just shut up for one second and let me speak?" No, because you keep trying to talk over me about something that you're wrong about. All right, stop. You're talking over everyone. That's right. Okay. Jesus Christ. What I'm trying to say is there are not enough transgender athletes at any level to warrant an entire league, right? Outside of whatever gender they are. I want to ask you this, Mom. I want to ask you this. Hang on. You were talking about there needs to be changes made. Now you're getting pissed, Dad, because I want to ask a question. No, you you're ignoring what I'm trying to tell you. No, I've heard everything you're saying. You think that AB Hernandez is not actually a transgender woman? You think AB Hernandez has concocted some scheme to win a medal at a high school track and field event? Okay, if that's not the case, Yeah. why does that person need to compete in sports? Because they want to. Okay. Yeah. Why don't they compete in women's sports? Because they're transgender. Someone's a white. Okay. She did compete in a women's event. One, two of three. No, it competed. Stop it. Move on. The question that I'm trying to ask you is the what the CIF did here, they altered their rules and they made it so that if there is a trans athlete in this event and that trans athlete places, they just add another place. So uh in in all of these events where AB Hernandez won or placed second or whatever, they added another placement assuring that there were top three places first, second, third. If AB Hernandez won one of those, they added basically another third place, which tells you Hernandez should not be in that competition if they have to do another place. And it proves what I've been trying to tell you for the last 15 minutes, which is the only reason that that Hernandez is transgendered is to win. How does that prove it? No, it doesn't. It has nothing to do with it. Let me let me Wait a minute. Mom, you were pissed even at that. You were saying like, "Well, that just proves that this is bullshit." No, no, no, no, no. How How does that not fix the exact problem you just talked about? that girls are still competing against a trans a boy that transitioned into a woman. They're really not though. If we're gonna do this, if we're really going to do this with what how many transgendered athletes do we have in the United States? 1500 at the most. I don't care. There's three. Make their own competition. A boys competition, a girls competition, a transgender boy, a transgender girl. Make four. Make four categories. Who pays for that? I don't give a crap who pays for it. You'll pay for it with your tax dollar. Set up a whole new athletic. I would never compete against a man. Paying for all these operations and [ __ ] now. I'd never man. All right. Uh, well, that basically wraps up the show this week. Thank you all for joining us. What? What are you laughing at, Dad? What do you got? No, Kitty just is good. So, now we can take care of her. Thank you all for joining us. Uh, if you're here at the end of this program, I know we've been getting some new listeners, some new viewers. Thank you so much for coming on this strange ride with us. I get a lot of DMs about what is your dad's job, what was your mom's job, were they always like this, etc., etc. All you have to do if you want the answers to these questions is go back and listen to our first three episodes. They are audio only. We were not doing video at that time, but they're available anywhere you listen to podcasts. Many people are uh coming in and just asking me questions that have been answered a million times on this show. I encourage everybody to just go back, listen to those first three episodes. I think it'll answer most questions that I get in DMs. All that said, Mom, despite all of our differences here today. I do love you. Happy anniversary. I know you guys have been together for how long now? You know how long that was? 50 years. 50 big ones. A lot of people will never be able to say that. That's true. Um, congratulations. I prayed we'd make it. We did. We made it to 50, Dad. They have due to health issues. Due to health issues. You know that. You both know that. So, shut. Why are you getting mad at me for that? Well, you're laughing. Yeah. I mean, I thought you were just insinuating because dad's grumpy, but Yeah, me too. Dad, uh, I love you despite all your political views, and happy anniversary to you as well. Do you consider it to be a big milestone? Yeah, we got remarried in the backyard. You guys know this. Yeah, just me and dad. It was wonderful. Haley, I love you as well. Congratulations on your middle child about to take her her first big step into young adulthood. What is it when you graduate high school? You're not quite an adult yet. I got to grab somebody. I mean, you're pretty [ __ ] close. Really? Getting ready to drop her off in a city all by herself. Yeah. Yeah. at college. That's not really adulthood. Okay. I have to talk. Yeah. I would say it's young adulthood. Yeah. All right. Well, I guess it depends on the kid. Yeah. Tell Willow congratulations. Give her a hug. I have to go out quick with this thing. She's not doing real good lately. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. I love you, Bob. And Chad, who is your very first uh person that you interviewed on this podcast? It was you, but dad was screaming in the background. He could not allow just me and you to have a conversation. Okay, I got to run. I got to take her out. Bye bye. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. Thank you. Good. I love everybody. And [ __ ] loves everybody. See you next week.