Can Parker Make Bob And Mary Lou Listen To Reason?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. Today is a very special episode. Not only are my mom and dad deep in the QAnon Maga hole with us, not only is my sister, fellow lefty, with us, we have a very special guest. Parker Get a Job is here to debate my parents. >> [laughter] >> But Thanks for joining us, Parker. Good to see y'all. Good to see y'all. Okay. >> He's a loser. Okay. >> Wait, why am I a loser? What? Cuz you're you're not Maga. That makes you a loser. Okay. >> Okay. What Why do you Why do you think that we have to be Maga? Well, because if you're not Maga, the odds that you live in your mom's basement and you're 25 years old is pretty good. Well, I live in my own apartment that I pay for myself. Yeah, there's one of us. >> that's ex- that's successful. What do you have to say about that? >> doesn't make you part of the 70% that don't live alone. Also, Chad and I Chad and I are also successful liberal commies. Yeah, thanks thanks to your dad. Gosh, okay. I I forgot that you were there when I [ __ ] opened up >> All right. Okay, this [ __ ] is getting off to a crazy start already. Let's let's start the show properly. Mom, do you have any ditties, any topics you want to discuss here? I mean, this threw me for a loop. I didn't know we were going to have a guest. >> Do we have Again, it was in the >> a caller? No, please. Let Chad No caller today? Yes, we have a question. But Mom does her things first. We've This is episode 144. You should be used to this by now. Okay. I'm happy that we do have a um a guest, but I I didn't read the email that >> not a guest. He's a competitor. He's a guest. Oh my god. Please be nice. Please. Okay, happy Valentine's >> nice. >> Happy Valentine's Day. Um That was nice. Dinner kind of behind everybody in this. We got an air fryer. Have Do you guys have air fryers? Yep. Mhm. Oh my gosh, we love it. I have done steaks, chicken, uh let's see, shrimp, forget french fries, french fries, french fries. Yeah. Yeah. We're kind of behind the curve here, but we love our air fryer. We got it for Valentine's Day. Okay. >> Melania got a seven series episode with Netflix after her documentary that was exploding [snorts] success. She got seven series from Netflix. >> episode series. >> Yeah, that's that's some money there. Okay. >> But you understand why that's happening, right? Because of the >> Trump's ass to get favorable treatment, preferential treatment, especially where broadcasting is concerned. Okay, that's what you believe. I believe she got it because that documentary was really good. All right. Melania Navy I need to talk about this real quick. Somebody asked me about this all the time. I get a bunch of emails. Got this at Little Mike's Hamburgers in Oklahoma City. He's on Facebook. He's also online. You can get his um his merch online. Okay. Uh do I need to give his phone >> Yeah, and everybody in his store is MAGA. Yeah. Which is more than 20%. What's my buddy's name? Who? You know, cowboy hat. We should get It's on Paxtons. Cowboy hat >> [laughter] >> Paxton. Yeah, that's my dad my dad has this uh big styrofoam MAGA cowboy hat that Hasan [ __ ] sent to him. So Yeah, there he's going to wear it now. Okay. >> Oh my gosh, Hasan sent it to him? I didn't even I thought that was a just a separate one. No, he sent it to him. So you're like ultra MAGA. You're like Yeah. >> big cowboy hat. Have you Have you worn that in public yet? Yes. What? No. When does Dad even go in public? He's worn it worn it twice. We went to Walmart. Okay. >> Okay. >> Mom, your ditty's done here. I've got one more little thing and then that's about it and then we can stop. >> I got's pats on the back. Since we have a guest, I won't go on and on, but one more thing and it's sad and it's still serious. Day 15 in the search of Nancy uh got three. It's terrible. No arrest, no proof of life. It's going on and on and it's terrible. And something that stuck in my mind, you know how you have all the FBI guys on TikTok, on Instagram saying, "I believe this. I believe that." One thing stuck in my mind when I listened to one of these guys. Yeah. He said, "Ransoms are never for old people." You know, they they pick young people. They pick the kids. They pick that when they want ransom. So, this I don't know. It's sad. Yeah, it's a very sad story. I agree. It's scary. I hope that they get her back. We all do. I think that's a bipartisan issue. They ain't getting her back. Okay. >> Maybe it's not. Okay. >> [laughter] >> That's That's my ditty. Okay, here's our listener question. If you'd like to submit a question to us, just send it in a 1-minute or shorter video format to the necessary [email protected]. This is our question for this week. >> [snorts] >> Let me know if you guys can hear this. You should be able to. Hey Kolchin family. My name is Gianna. I live in the Chicago area and my dad is a Gen X. I'm a very, very young millennial and we were having a conversation where he said, >> hear. "What a legacy for the boomers to leave." Is it too low or you just can't sowing all this hatred and uh division and um fear. So, I was just wondering what uh you parents think about that. Um the legacy that the boomers are going to leave on the rest of the world. Thanks. Bye. The question was, "What do you think about the legacy that boomers are going to leave on the rest of the world, which is legacy of fear, essentially. Do you think your generation is turning the world into a better place or a worse place? Wait, Parker, what generation are you? Are you Alpha? >> I'm Gen Z. Oh, Gen Z. Okay. So, this is the first time we've ever had a Gen Z person on the show, I believe. So, we have some conversation to have here about the difference in generations in in terms of hope and and what they're doing to the human population, or at least the American population. Mom and Dad, what do you think will be the legacy of your generation, the boomers? We'll be the second greatest generation ever. Who was the first? First World War, World War II. >> generation, as they're known. Mom, what do you think? How old is our guest? How old is our guest? >> 23? Oh, you're young. You're a baby. You're a baby. >> That's like us debating Roman. Yeah, you're a baby. Roman is my sister's son, who is 21 now. 21? Yeah. >> Yeah, he's a baby. >> [clears throat] >> I think our generation it we're either going to save the United States or we're not, and I hope it goes down to we will be remembered as fighting like hell to save our country. Okay. Against communism. Okay. Mhm. Which we know you are. Please. Okay. Please. >> [laughter] >> What is communism? You know what communism is. >> No, he's asking you. >> I'm asking you what you mean by the term. >> I know what it is. I know how I use the term, but how are you using the term? Communism is somewhere the entire country is controlled by the people with all the money. Okay. >> not us. That's not us. >> My understanding of communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society. If there's no money in communism, how could they control all the money? There's money in communism. That's what it's all about. But let me let me also say Dad >> Communism is all about money. Yes. Dad, you also just said that you believe communism is a a government where the people with the most money control everything, right? That's right. We currently have a billionaire president and his entire enclave of supporters are the richest men in the world. Do not control the country. That is a [ __ ] lie. >> You saw Elon Musk in the first 6 months of Trump's presidency literally standing in the Oval Office controlling everything. Out of We got [snorts] thousands of billionaires. Okay. >> And do you agree that they have a disproportionate amount of control over our political systems? No. No? I mean, you can understand this even from your perspective. This isn't even like a a left-wing sort of thing to understand. Even right-wingers understand that there are people who have inequitable amounts of power because of the level of wealth that they have and because the Supreme Court understands that like a a corporation, right, is seen as like a person and that their money is speech. So in that sort of sense, it allows for corporations to influence the political sphere significantly more than the average person. And you're seeing it in press. You're seeing it in all of our social media, all of our [ __ ] news now. We don't control it. Everybody has one vote. All right. Okay. And you get to vote. You don't get to vote when you're in a communist country. They dictate who votes. Do you think that we don't want people to vote? What? The communism does it. Well, no, you said that we're communist. So if we're communist, does that mean that we don't want people to vote? That's right. You're communist. Okay, so I do want people to vote. I think all of us want people to vote. I mean, you're the one who Wait, do you accept the 2020 election results? Do you accept the 2020 election results? You only want people on the left to vote. Well, according to the Save America Hang hang on. Haley, Donald Trump doesn't want us to [ __ ] Let's This is a perfect segue to I'll make this our first topic, the Save Act. This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter We already talked about that. >> it. You couldn't hear her. >> we didn't hear anything she said. >> hear it. >> Well, my two cents is that boomers are ruining everything and we're all [ __ ] So, it's going to be up to my kids to save the [ __ ] planet. >> [laughter] >> Okay. This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter Eligibility Act. >> you are all going to be happy the minute your mother stood up for Maga in about 10 years. Okay. Let Chad talk. >> This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter >> your [ __ ] down there. This week the House passed >> long enough to tell me anything. This week the House passed the Safe Card American Voter Eligibility Act on a party line vote, which proposed new federal election law designed to make it harder for people to vote. The bill requires proof of US citizenship when registering to vote, mandates photo identification at the ballot box, requires states to share voter rolls and related data with federal agencies, and it requires a voter's name to match on their birth certificate and chosen form of ID. This presents a problem for anyone whose name has changed for any reason, like marriage for example, Mom. Haley, the bill now goes to the US Senate where no official vote date has been scheduled. About half of all American adults don't have passports or lack the funds to get one. This combined with the name matching provision guarantees that this bill is going to disproportionately affect married women, seniors, like you, Dad, low-income voters, rural voters, and trans voters. Trump said that whether this bill passes or not, the voter ID requirements in the bill are going to be in place for midterm elections, even if it has to be done by executive order. Dad, you just said communism is a state of government where the government doesn't want everyone to vote. Trump is now trying to make that happen. That's not what I said. Yes, it is. Well, well, we have in our country is the right-wingers want everybody to vote, the left-wingers do not. Then why are they trying to pass this bill that will make it harder for many other people to vote? >> It won't make them harder. Are you listening to anything I'm saying when I read this [ __ ] No, because you're you're you're believing you're believing because they're minorities they can't get a ID card. And that's a tough thing to >> Your wife sitting right next to you, my mom, and Haley, both of their last names no longer match their birth certificates. [ __ ] passport? >> [snorts] >> Do you have a passport? Do you have a [ __ ] driver's license? Then you're go you're good to go. No, you're not. That's what this My I my May I Can I break this down for us simple in simple words? Yeah. When you're born in the United States, you receive a birth certificate, correct? It has your name, your date of birth, and your parents' name, and the place of birth. So, on my birth certificate, I could pull it out right now of my billfold, and it has all of those documents on it. It also has my maiden name, not my married name. But then, when you get married, what do you get? A marriage license. You file that paper with that document, [snorts] your new name, your old name, in the county where you were married, okay? Everybody should do that. Everybody does do that. So, except If your name has been changed Except the left-wingers. >> your name also in any way, divorce, uh death by spouse, whatever, all of that, you go to the Social Security office, and guess what? Guess what they require there? Your marriage license. You do not change your birth certificate ever. That stays with you your whole lifetime. Okay. With your name, the parents' name, where you were born. >> just ask one question? Yes. You're already like three documents deep in in what you're going to have to provide in order to vote. Do you think that makes it Hey. Okay, hang on. Do you think that makes it easier or harder for people to vote? That you have to supply all of these documents that you never had to before. >> Different states are different ways. Okay. So, the only two documents you need are your birth certificate if it's different and your marriage license. Uh-huh. Those two connect through your whole lifetime. I've had them in my purse my And I don't have them. And I don't have them. And how many times I've had to produce those pieces of paper to vote? [ __ ] none. All right. If you don't have If you don't have a marriage license, I don't want you to vote. >> You will never You'll never [laughter] I don't have one. I'm not married. Wait, do you think I should be allowed to >> certificate. You didn't listen to Mom. You got to have one or the other. Do you have a birth certificate, Chad? Yeah. [snorts] >> don't, let me mail you one of the 50 of them I have on you. >> Chad, it's that little green card that says where you were born. That little laminated green card. >> I have it. >> Bailey, you've got one, too. Hang on. Parker has a question. Parker has a question for you guys. Yeah, can we at least acknowledge that this is going to restrict like millions of people from being able to vote from an overall standpoint? We might say like, "Oh, there are certain things we might be able to do to do this." But, making it even harder to vote when people already right now seemingly are going to vote given the the level of implications that restrict people from uh from voting just leads to millions of people voting to a lesser degree than they would have otherwise voted. illegals >> Who would this restrict? I don't >> Actually, there's only like there's there's only like 10 cases of undocumented immigrants trying to vote over like the past like 40 years. So, I don't I don't understand like this whole point of trying to restrict undocumented immigrants from voting when they wouldn't do so because it would put them at It would It would put them under threat of deportation. Chad pulled it up last Sunday. >> Yeah. We've We've given you the same stats. The The stats, for what it's worth Parker, do not affect them. >> [laughter] >> You have to find some other way in. One thing I would say is like, "Why?" Well, let's ask like of why. Why do you accept the certain statistics that you do? Because I guess our life experience and we've lived through it and I have a marriage license and a birth certificate and I've never been said you can't vote, lady. Never, ever, ever. And I also have a voter registration card. So that has to personally affect you, but what you're what you're not understanding is that 50% of the United States does not have a passport. Okay? Lots of women get married. Uh-huh. And now they're going to have to produce a marriage license to vote, not just your license. What's wrong with that? Do you not have a marriage license, Haley? >> to do that? Why have to do that? Because your name is changed. Yes. Parker, Parker. Parker's raising his hand. Are y'all communist because you want to restrict people from voting? And you have a voter ID. Wait, can I ask you a question? Are y'all communist because you want to restrict people from voting? No. But millions of people would be restricted from voting because of this. And and he defined he defined communism as you wanted to restrict people from voting. So if you define it that way, then wouldn't that make yourself a communist? >> Americans who have the right documentation to vote. We want no illegal to vote in any election in the United States of America. >> Okay, but statistically If you allow illegals to vote, you're [snorts] a communist. He's googling. This has nothing to do with >> That's me writing notes so that I can be able to remember it. >> This has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants. We already gave you the statistic and how [ __ ] little it is. This has nothing to do with that. They want to suppress women, they want to suppress minorities. Different states also if you don't have those, different states take different things. They'll take a passport, a driver's license, a driver's license, a bank ID. >> that this is voter suppression. You can get a li- you can get a library ID card. >> I don't want DEAD PEOPLE VOTING. I don't want dead people voting and you know that's happened. I don't want one person to go back and vote five times in a row and I know that's happened. >> and you always say, "I'll look into that." Did you [ __ ] look into it? Cuz what you're saying makes no sense. The statistics exist. Dead people and immigrants are not voting. >> Where do you get them? >> Oh my goodness. I'll look it up right now. >> let's let's move on to our next topic. Pam Bondi's hearing. This week Attorney General Pam Bondi appeared before the House Judiciary Committee where she was asked about the botched release of the Epstein files that failed to release over half the files, protected Epstein co-conspirators, and doxxed Epstein victims. Can you please just listen? Mom and Dad. I'm listening. Parker, what are your parents like? Um I want to see my mom's like she's being super apolitical and she's definitely more like politically involved now. She's more liberal. I actually got her to vote for Kamala Harris right before the election. And my dad is still conservative. He's pretty conspiracy like-minded as well. So I understand the family dynamics there. So you got it. Okay. >> you understand. Yeah, I was just curious if this was like [ __ ] bonkers. >> "Oh, I need to know he voted for Kamala Harris. How smart is that?" Okay. Wait, what's wrong with voting for Kamala Harris? I think she was clearly the preferable candidate. >> She said dumbest [ __ ] thing next to a stump. Okay, name one thing that she said that was dumb. All of it. Name one specific thing. She said that's a dumb thing to say. That's actually like I like yellow school buses. Couldn't even [ __ ] pronounce a word the last time I saw him online. Let's not argue. Go on. He said we're killing whales in numbers never seen before. He said we should look into disinfectant by injection to fight COVID-19. He looked up at an eclipse twice with his naked eye. She wasn't even elected to run or whatever. They just appointed her. >> Didn't it want to take her six times to pass the bar? They're eating dogs. They're eating cats. That's what happens with the vice presidents, by the way. Like when the president steps down, the vice president steps up. She was voted in through the Biden-Harris ticket. 80% of the Democratic Party was satisfied with her being the nominee. So, like I mean, I think that the Democrats were obviously in alignment with like Democratic norms in that respect. But, you you guys didn't accept the 2020 election results. Like 70% of the Republican Party. So, how could you guys point at us as the ones that are anti-Democratic when your side actively tried to undermine the 2020 election? 2020 election was stolen. >> from us, for sure. >> What evidence do you have for that? All It's all out there. You keep saying all of it and everything. You make these weird big blanket statements, but you can't actually say one concrete answer to me. >> it to you this way. The 20% The 20% of Americans who are out there are not our side. It's your side. >> I'm waiting for this There are less of you There are less There are less of you than you think there are. >> I'm waiting for the seized ballots in Georgia to see that little outcome there. Park, I have a question for you. Do you think the 2024 election was valid? Absolutely. So, one one unique thing I would say here is that why did they have the ability to steal the election in 2020 when they weren't in office, when Trump was in office, but when the Democrats were in office, they lacked the ability to steal the election? Because of those machines. What machines? The Dominican The Dominican? The The Dominion voting machines? So, those were proven to not have a like it caused like a swing in the election. There were audits on this. There were literally court cases, over 60-plus court cases, that indicate no sufficient evidence to overturn the overturn the election. Many of them were Republican-appointed judges and Trump-appointed judges, even. Talks fast. Mhm. I can slow down [laughter] for you if you'd like. I believe Trump Why? >> Be nice. We have a guest. Why do you believe Trump, I guess, is my point? If all the evidence points against what Trump is saying, why do you believe Trump? I believe that he wants our country to be the best it can be. Because he genuinely cares about the country. He said he would close the border. He's done it. Our border has been closed. He said he's going to take drug cartel out of here the best he can. He's doing that. Kamala Harris How do you feel about the fact that they pardoned the ex-president of Honduras who literally trafficked over 400 tons of cocaine to our country and was convicted of it? >> see that. I did see that. like that. He doesn't do everything I like. He doesn't do everything, but he does a lot of things. >> files? Do you like that? Do you like that he's in the Epstein files? Do you like that part? More than any other single person. There's no conviction in him doing anything. His name's in the Epstein files more than God's name is in the Bible. Yeah. Huh. And that's okay with you? And is there any Is there any line in there where he has >> to do with the [ __ ] Bible anyway? >> Yes, there is testimony that he has We don't read the Bible. There is testimony that he has sexually assaulted people. Other than the tips hotline, the tips hotline, we know that's false. We know that's not [snorts] for real. The Bible is a story book. I have a question as well. Like, would you let someone legally enter the country if they were held civilly liable of sexually abusing a woman? I didn't hear what you said. You said it too fast. >> Yeah. Sorry. Would you let someone legally enter the country if they were held civilly liable of sexually abusing a woman? Would I allow someone into the country? >> the ability to. If I was a president, no. Okay. Here's what I would do. No, hang on, Mom. Hang on. No, Mom, there's a second part of that. Hang on. Parker, please go ahead, finish the second part of that. So why do you put higher qualifications on who's allowed to legally immigrate to the country than who's allowed to become president of the United States? We don't. I don't think so. >> No, Mom, you just said You just said you would not let somebody into this country who was found who has been found civilly liable for sexually assaulting a woman. Donald Trump has done that. Yes, he has. No, he hasn't. Okay, Carol. He got railroaded by a bunch of [ __ ] lefties in New York. You said civil. I didn't hear the civil. Civil and federal is different. Here's what I would like to say before you guys start yelling at us. Any of those women in the Epstein files that were abused, I hope each and every one of them get the best attorney they can get right now. They need to go through an attorney to get their file open, to get everything, all the men that did this to them, put in prison and locked away. Okay, well, let's let's and you know and you know And you know who probably the number one on the [ __ ] list? Joe Biden. Joe Biden So, but now let's get back to where we were going with our second topic about Pam Bondi. Okay, so at one point during Pam Bondi's hearing, she's asked if she would turn and apologize directly to the victims of the Epstein who are in the Epstein files, victims of Epstein who are present at the hearing. Bondi refused to even look at them and accused Democrats of political theater. Photographers at the hearing then got shots of documents Bondi brought with her that contain lawmaker search histories who had reviewed the Epstein files leading everybody to believe that the DOJ is actively surveilling members of Congress. Bondi was asked if anybody else is going to be charged based on the information in the Epstein files and why so much is still withheld and redacted. She ignored the question like most others. At some point she started talking about the [ __ ] stock market. Bondi's performance at the hearing made it clear to many that she's covering up for Trump and others who would be implicated in the Epstein files. Many are now demanding her resignation. Mom, why do you think Pam Bondi refused to answer Congress's questions about the Epstein files? Okay, when she first start I'll get to that in a minute. When she first started she did say >> you're Pam Bondi-ing >> me. Answer the question. [laughter] She deeply sorry for what any victim or victims had been through. She did I was watching it. She did say this. Okay. >> She said especially as a result of the monster. She also told them to come forward to law enforcement with any information and her news and assured them that any accusation of criminal wrongdoing would be taken seriously and investigated. >> a [ __ ] liar cuz they >> already did that. What she would not do is when asked to turn around if they were behind her uh they had asked her, "Would you uh apologize?" By the way, where is it at that the Department of Justice handled the release of the files? That she would not do. And that's pretty shitty. >> is a piece of [ __ ] >> said if she's not doing her job, get rid of her. She's a piece of [ __ ] All of those women All of those women came forward wanted to talk to the DOJ, asked to be [ __ ] heard, and they will not listen. They will not be heard. They won't listen to them. They each, like I said, please, if they're listening, get an attorney, the best one you can find, and go after them that way. >> She's just feeding you [ __ ] and you're buying it. That's the only way they're going to be heard. >> Parker, Parker, please jump in. Jump in. You're good to go. I just don't want to cut off. Uh so, like, why didn't they talk to any of the victims when they came out and literally have messaged the DOJ directly to have a meeting? Um none of them have got a response. All of them have been have been ignored. Why haven't they done that? Was that from Pam Bondi or from who? >> Yes. Pam Bondi. They directly asked Pam Bondi this because all the victims were standing behind, the victims and survivors, and they explicitly asked them, "How many of you have uh sent in a message to be able to get a meeting with the DOJ?" All of them raised their hand. Uh and then how many of you have got a response? None of them. Um and essentially asked her directly if she would give them a response. And there seemingly was no like like certain a certain statement that they were going to do so and they haven't followed up on that since. Now, how many times do I have to say I said it 3 weeks ago? I said it last Wednesday with you. I said it the Sunday before. Get rid of her. But Trump isn't Your God is not getting rid of her. That's the whole point of this. like how she may be covering up for Donald Trump? She's a piece of [ __ ] She's not doing the job right. She's not doing it for the victims. The victims need to be heard. Correct. And she's withholding information for your lord and savior. Whether they are Democrats or Republicans, they need to rot in hell. Including Trump. So if you if you do think that Pam Bondi is doing this, do you think that she's doing this at the request of Trump? Because Trump did go to for for example Marjorie Taylor Greene and tried to get her to not release the Epstein files and that's why he calls her Marjorie Traitor Greene now. Yeah, I've I've talked about this to Chad. I'm not sure it's Trump. I'm sure I I'm thinking someone above Trump and Chad goes someone above Trump. I'm thinking like international like >> is controlled. So someone's controlling Trump. Yes, yes, yes. Chad thinks the Israeli government is controlling Trump. Oh, that's Hervé. Yeah. Oh, okay. If you think the Israeli government is controlling Trump, what what prevents you from believing like for example the Israeli government killed Charlie Kirk? I do believe that. I already discussed that with Hasan [ __ ] Oh, okay. Sorry. I must have missed that in the episode. [laughter] Oh. >> Okay. I discussed that one. Are Muslims communists? >> Do you think Israel caused 9/11? Do you think do you think that Israel caused 9/11? We like him. Do you think that Israel caused 9/11? That one I don't know. Okay, so like I guess my point is that is that if you can believe all of these things without sufficient evidence, what prevents you from believing something like that? Because I've read more about those than anything else, I guess. Okay, but like what specifically did you have to read in terms of evidence that would then establish it to be true? I guess late at night when I read different documents on different sites. >> have to find some connection between Trump and [laughter] Epstein and Israel. Nighttime is I don't I don't think it's there. What did you say to him? >> to flat-earthers before. I talked to flat-earthers before who genuinely do believe the earth is flat and they've read into it. What what prevents you from believing that? What? That the earth is flat? Yeah. >> I don't know. How about pictures >> You don't know? Like it should be evidence, right? It should be science. It should be reason, right? >> You said pictures from the moon. So, it's a picture you want? You have Donald Trump pictured with Epstein countless [ __ ] times. What more do you want? He also turned him in. He also turned him in before all this [ __ ] went down. >> See, that's where you're wrong. I wholeheartedly believe they have photos and video of him that are very implicating. We haven't seen them because Pam Bondi is a piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] >> me ask you This is my next question. You're a piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] if you believe that. Okay. We're not going to get into shaming and badgering this time. This is my next question on this. Why is Pam Bondi withholding 3 million, half of the Epstein files? I thought we've all got them released now. No. You had Todd Blanche coming out and saying, "It's over. We released it. Time to move on." But, there's still 3 million files being withheld. And many of the files, even the ones that they released to Congress, some lawmakers got to go in and see the in quotes unredacted files. >> Yes. Still re Many of them still were redacted. I'll be honest. It's hard for me to read through those and find those. I go to the White House page. I go to the dot media page. I go to the page >> listening to the question. >> go to NBC or MSNBC and get their information. He's asking you >> they do. Stop. You're not listening to the question. >> Sorry. Parker, go ahead. This is getting to a point that I was going to I was going to kind of bring up earlier. It was that the flat-earthers that I would talk to you would say that the pic of the the of the moon is fake. And the same way that you dispute the evidence when it's shown to you is the same way that they dispute the evidence when it's shown to them. So, what really is the difference between your view and their view in terms of a reasonable basis? There's actually no difference. >> we're 70 [snorts] years old. We're We're 70 years old and nobody has drove off the edge of the earth yet. >> [laughter] >> That's another fact. Those flat-earthers would claim that like you just haven't heard about it, that [snorts] the Illuminati and that the people in the control and power aren't going to let you hear about those things. The same people that you think were controlling Trump. It's it's your It's cult mentality. You're part of a cult and that is why you believe these things. You're not part of a [ __ ] cult? You got to be kidding me. I have no reason. We use evidence. We use facts. Like in it in seemingly you dispute any of those whenever they don't fit your narrative or fit whatever you want to believe already or what feels good to you. They're not facts. They you make them up as you go. >> No, Dad, this is a fact. We give you evidence for all of them. We told you where to look. You can You can look and read through the Epstein files. You can see that they redacted co-conspirators' names. is is refutable. All right, but you guys are both I'm going to go crazy on my allergies going crazy today. No, that's [clears throat] based on evidence, right? You you You judge that based on evidence. But like my point is that whenever we bring up evidence to you, you just say that those are fake statistics. Wait a minute. You guys have both completely avoided the question. Why is Pam Bondi withholding half of the Epstein files? She feels like it. Clearly. That's bad, right? You don't want them to withhold the Epstein files, right? But she is legally obligated by the law Donald Trump signed knows more about what's legal for her than you do. She is legally obligated by the law Donald Trump signed called the Epstein Transparency Act to release them all, only redacting survivors, only redacting the victims. other than Trump. I mean, Trump is not holding this over her. I think it's someone outside of our country. So, then you're going to say, "Okay." So, then someone outside our country is guiding him. No, it's people don't want to go to prison. Okay, let's move on. >> the only way he didn't get indicted So Trump and Bondi are protecting PDFs that are friends. That you're saying that they they know people in these files that they want to protect. That's about enough to say that you shouldn't support them. That's just qualifying, right? If a Democrat did this, I would say that's disqualifying, I wouldn't support them. Right, the one man, the one Republican that said I was never there. And then it shows up, oh I was there with my family and four kids. Like what? A year later? >> fire him? >> Get him out. Get him out. Donald Trump >> they didn't Did they fire him? No, they haven't. I He's talking about his Secretary of Commerce. They need to. All around the world, other other politicians and other people in high up places that have been named in the Epstein files are either being fired or quitting, trying to disappear. Like this is what needs to transpire. Donald Trump and Pam Bondi know exactly what's in those files and they're protecting rapists and pedophiles and potentially murderers. They know about this [ __ ] If if all if all the bad stuff in there about Trump that you're saying is and all that, why didn't Biden release it long ago? >> We've we've discussed this. >> His administration had this long ago. >> been through it with your horse crap. His administration had this long ago. It should have been released then. >> How about Barack Hussein Obama? Or was that >> explained to you why they didn't release that. >> married to Big Mike. At the time that it was At the time when when Biden was in office, it was an active investigation, so they couldn't release any of this stuff. That's how the law works. >> Oh, but you don't >> there used to be this thing where the executive branch and the DOJ didn't really influence each other much. Now, Trump and Pam Bondi are [ __ ] holding hands and he's literally giving her commands through Truth Social and she follows them. You don't think he's >> Laetitia James, [ __ ] indictment the next week, you know. >> think any of Biden's followers that hated Donald Trump so bad knew this information and they could have leaked it and never did? That's the only thing in the back of my brain I'm thinking. >> Yeah, we'll hold accountability to Merrick Garland. We have no issues with doing that, right? Again, but like we do have to understand that there is a difference in terms of the DOJ being independent and how the Harris and Harrison Biden weren't directly involved with the daily dealings of the DOJ. >> Merrick Garland? What the hell? I just said Merrick Garland was bad, right? I actually think he didn't go hard enough against Trump specifically, especially for the election. Yes, we agree about that, yeah. Okay, we've gotten a little heated up. One thing that we do on this podcast, Parker, is in the middle of it, we have a simmer. >> wishes he didn't come. We're past the middle. >> mind doing this. I I do these debates all the time. I'm very used to this. >> Okay. >> This is a question that we are all going to answer that has nothing to do with politics, but reveals something about our own personalities, our own world views. The question this week is what do you believe is the most important single piece of technology developed in human history? Haley. Why am I always first? You're always I literally [laughter] I literally I literally went and like researched like what are you know, what are the technolo- you know, technological advancements like throughout history. Yeah. >> Um number one on every [ __ ] list was the printing press. What? Interesting. >> That was number one on every list. >> beat. I think I have one that's more important, but I I don't know. I mean, for me like my brain today immediately when I read the question I was like the [ __ ] internet. Yeah. >> Okay, phone or computer? Okay. >> Telephone, computer. >> these are communication devices, by the way. Communication technologies, Dad. Telephone. Okay. Parker? I think I'd have to go with the internet as well. Internet. I will predate all of your inventions, one that without which none of these would exist. It is called the written word. Thank you very much. That is the correct [laughter] answer. Moving on to our next topic. Is that the printing press? I guess. No. >> The printing press is an evolution of the written word, obviously. >> Okay. Okay. I don't think we started writing with the printing press. That would have been pretty impressive though. I've invented language and the printing press on the same day. Okay, let's uh move on to our next topic, shall we? ICE is leaving Minneapolis this week. Borders are an undercover FBI bribe recipient recipient Tom Homan announced that the federal ICE surge in Minnesota's ending and that the agents will be leaving the state after completing the largest ICE deployment in US history. He said the operation met its goals, citing over 4,000 arrests. He failed to mention the two murders that ICE committed in broad daylight without consequence. Tim Walz said the federal presence inflicted {quote} deep damage and lasting trauma. Jacob Frey said he believed the pullback he'll believe the pullback story when he sees it. Noting the Trump administration has lied before and observers in Minneapolis note ICE activity remains visible. Dad, why do you think they're announcing that ICE is leaving the city? Job well done. Okay, Mom, you agree with this? >> I think there's more >> [snorts] >> help with from the policemen there now, from the state and local people helping them out. Okay. They are putting the bad guys in jail and then not letting them out. So less >> Are you both satisfied then that the Somali fraud you believe was rampant in that city is now over? >> still going on. That's still will continue. I'm making sure the Somalis like get rid of Yeah, why would why get rid of them? Why are they leaving then? Who, ICE? >> Because Their job Their job was not there to catch the Somalis. You have said on this podcast a million times that's why they were there. No, that's not why they were Yes, illegal immigrants. immigrants they were catching. >> That's why I think they should have went there and stayed. >> They said there was over 4,000 >> not why they were sent there. Over 4,000 now have been arrested. That's what Holman said. Yeah. >> And And what's happening, too, they're either getting deported >> The administration has not pointed to the Somalia problem as of yet. Or the bad guys >> going to they're going to, trust me. The bad guys now are staying in jail because the law officials there are starting to help them. >> [snorts] >> There's only one way to get rid of Somalis anyway. You put them in the You give them a dirt nap. Oh my god. Okay. What What do you mean by that? You know what I mean by that. No, just clarify. Just clarify. What do you mean? >> Dead. You want You want to kill Somali people. >> Yes. He has said that before. >> [snorts and clears throat] >> Because they are the root of all evil. How? What do you mean, how? Yeah, how? Like how do you say that about an entire group of people? No, hell no. No, no, I'm just I'm just asking you genuinely. How do you say that about an entire group of people? Yeah. [snorts] The ones that are Christian, Uh the ones that are in the United States, you damn right I'm against them, and I think they should all be dead. Okay, well, that's [ __ ] insane, just letting you know. You just advocated for genocide, literally. I just want to let you know. >> By the way, by the way, Christians have been killing Muslims for 100 years. Okay, so by the way, not all Somali Americans are Muslims. And also, just because that's happened historically does not mean that should continue to happen. No, I have been stealing money from us left and right, sending it to Bangladesh. Is Is it against your religion? Is it against the 10 Commandments to argue just what you argued for? >> Somalis are [ __ ] Okay. Okay. Dad, listen to this question. Yeah, do Do you Do you think that um Do you think that your Bible, your commandments, tell you to be against that? >> I'm a Catholic. Yes, you do. You still have a Bible. No, we do not. Does Jesus Does the church tell you >> wrong. I believe >> Does the church or the Pope say not to do that? Would the church and Pope agree with you? He's He's lying. Okay. I'm not. Would Would the church agree or the Pope agree with you? >> come on. Dad, you you have this weird thing that you came up with last week that Catholics the Bible has no bearing on Catholic faith, which is like I've been a Catholic my entire life. I went to cat private Catholic school. We never saw a [ __ ] Bible. He went to catechism class Stick that one up your ass. How about How about you answer the question? Yeah, I I don't know why he says no Bible but how about >> How about Jesus or the church? Right, would either of them agree with you calling for the deaths of all people who are Somali? No. Jesus would. No. No, Jesus would say love thy neighbor. Jesus would not say that, okay? I'm not even Christian and I can tell you this. I grew up in a Christian household and I think that's ridiculous that you say that. My mom who's Christian, my parents who Christian, think you're insane for saying that because this is about basic humanity, right? This is not about This is not about anything else. It's about basic humanity. No one should be murdered at mass just because of the fact that they are a person, right? Literally of a certain ethnic background. Yeah. I mean, I don't think you're going to get anywhere. He wants, you know, the entire [ __ ] demolition of Gaza including every man, woman, and child. So. Yeah, he has called for genocide on this podcast many times. This is not a new thing with him. The The newer thing is though the idea that the Catholic faith has no attachment to the Bible. And I That one I'm I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around. Okay. They're still not being taught out of the Bible ever. But like Do you think that the Bible is an important document in terms of all Christian sects, all Christian denominations? The Bible has nothing to do with our Catholicism. >> Let me tell you where he's coming from. He went to Catholic school. He was an altar boy every day of of the year. I went to mass every day of my life. Probably like 14 >> saw Bible once. Back in those days >> I'm 70 years old. I still don't know any Catholics. You're not 70 They didn't have a Bible. >> [snorts] >> Back then when he was when he was taught by the Catholic nuns. Yeah. >> We do have a Catholic Bible in the house. We do. But back in the day, they did not. It was it's very weird. It's um they went on sacraments. They went on um you know >> Okay, hang on a minute. Dad, when you would go to mass, Catholic mass, did the priest leading it ever read from the Bible? Yes. >> No. >> Yes. >> No, he did not. We have our own >> Never. We have our own Bible. We don't have a Bible. We have our own book. It has gospels in it. But they're not from the Bible. They're from the Catholicism book. Okay. We got to move on. This is um absurd. Let's move on to our next topic. The grand jury that would not indict the Dems this week. A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C. refused to indict the six Democratic lawmakers who appeared in a video urging members of the U.S. military and intelligence community that they must refuse unlawful orders despite Trump calling the video despite Trump calling the video seditious, the grand jury heard evidence from Trump's attorneys, but declined to return any indictments. In addition this week a federal judge blocked Pete Hegseth's attempt to punish Senator Mark Kelly over the same video saying his speech >> [snorts] >> saying his speech is protected by the First Amendment. Mom, do you accept the grand jury's decision to not indict Mark Kelly and these other Democrats? Yes, but I think his has been appealed. I think it's going to go on with him, but the rest were no. But you accept it? >> No, the appeal is to Pete Hegseth. >> That's our government. Yes. Okay, well, the government well, >> [snorts] >> uh a federal judge said that Donald Trump uh sexually assaulted Carroll. So, why don't you believe that? That was not federal. That was civil. Okay. But well, just because it's civil isn't a reason to not accept it because for example, 40% of the people undocumented are in the country and they've overstayed a visa which is a civil violation not a criminal violation because they didn't unlawfully enter the country. So under your view then you wouldn't say that any of them should be able to be kicked out of the country because they have only violated civil law. Yeah, to me civil law is much more important. I mean federal I mean federal. What about his 34 felonies? They've been over that. Hang on. Hang on. Let's I I like where Parker's going with this. So you're saying that civil basically is like kind of irrelevant. It's not as significant as federal. >> saying irrelevant but I'm saying federal is the like over civil. So most of the things But you accept determinations from civil law. brought up and taken to court and none of these were are all these women that have supposedly civil suits? Well we're talking about E. Jean Carroll which she has a liability civil lawsuit and it was decided 9-0. I'm talking about is is is Kelly. He's going to get They're going to They're going to appeal the judges overrule. And he And they're going to win and he's going to get his ass kicked out. >> they tried to indict them with a grand jury and it failed which is like hard to do. Grand juries usually will indict literally [ __ ] anyone. There's a famous thing about they'll indict a ham sandwich and they said no. That's what a lawyer told me. Yeah, first of all that's not every case but you you just assume it applies [snorts] to everything. >> Maybe you should make a prediction to see if this goes on. >> talk about people who just make [ __ ] up as they go along we're with three of them. Okay, so you So you're not accepting that the grand jury's decision to not indict him. Hell hell no, they're going to appeal it. Okay. Do you then then what do you think is the good of a grand jury if lawyers bring their evidence before a grand jury? In today's world have no [snorts] purpose. Okay. But today's world is Trump's world. Trump has turned it that way because they're trying to seek indictments against people like all these cases that are getting thrown out. >> but that's >> how it is. All right. Okay. Um let's move on to >> before before you do, can I go back to that one point again? So, the point I was making was that you'd have to essentially say that 40% of people who are in the country undocumented should be allowed to stay because they are only violating civil law and not criminal law. Okay. Unless you accept the determinations from civil courts. That they're all undocumented, that's horse [ __ ] No, 40% of the undocumented people Dad, you're not listening. 40% of the undocumented people in this country are here under civil infraction that they've basically just overstayed their their visa or whatever got them into the country in the first place. Okay, but like they violated civil law. So, if you accept the determinations from civil courts, then why don't you accept the determination in a civil court against Donald Trump for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll? Why do I not accept it? Cuz it was all made up and propaganda. Because it's against Trump. So, couldn't you say the same thing for all the undocumented immigrants? You know, you're 40% of illegals. Yeah, there's just a mental block. It's It's the cult [ __ ] It's like Donald Trump can do no wrong. No matter what you say, doesn't [ __ ] matter. You can have a federal [ __ ] indictment. They don't give a [ __ ] We'll find out who's right and who's wrong. So, let me ask you this question. Like what what piece of evidence would you accept that would determine that Donald Trump has engaged in behaviors like this? There isn't any evidence you can come up with cuz he didn't do it. >> Okay. So, that's Okay, so when your kids call you cult members, that's why. Like I'm genuinely being serious right now. I'm trying to talk to you one-on-one right now. Like that's why because if you're unwilling to accept any reason to justify a certain point that you could be wrong about your political position. Listen, listen. Dad, listen to what he's saying. You're unwilling to hear out other opposing sides, which means that you're stuck in your one belief system and one way of looking at it and you are unwilling to see any perspective. You think that you're right and everyone else is wrong and no one else possibly be right. Total [ __ ] Here's the truth. I don't I I hear both sides of different things. >> I don't hear anything you're saying cuz you're full of [ __ ] I mean this is what he's talking about. You're proving the point. It's hard to >> to look at yourself in the camera. It's hard to believe which side is true when someone says something. Even on facts, are those facts true? Are they not true? Where do you get your information? We've talked about this before. It's not. When you see an entire I'm all crazy I'm all crazy about AI. Is it true? >> look at that entire group of women in that courthouse behind Pam Bondi, is it really that hard for you to believe them? No, I believe them. But you know what? I want them to get the best attorneys to go forward to get the creeps to put them in jail and rot in hell. Wait, if you believe them, why don't you believe the 26 plus women that have accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct? Why are they all lying? And there's 26. Why are they lying? Is that in Epstein files? >> question. >> No, no, no. This isn't in the Epstein files. These are people that have accused Donald >> you you're admitting that they're lying. So what why are they lying? Where was that >> never said they were lying. I asked you if you think that they're lying, every single one of them. Where was those women Where are those names? Are those women in the Epstein files? No, they're not in the Epstein files. Yeah, these are women that have accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct throughout the past 30 plus years, right? Going back into the '80s where people have accused him of sexual misconduct. Oh, so that's nothing to do with Epstein. Yeah, we're talking about Epstein right now. He's also in the Epstein files more than anyone else. There are I think very credible allegations in the Epstein files against him for a variety of things including sexually assaulting children. The amount of times that we have heard Donald Trump's name associated with sexual assault, it's astounding. And so for you to ignore it, I think for us is just incredibly frustrating. Because if it was anyone else, you'd eat it up. But it's Donald Trump, so you [ __ ] feel like I didn't see it. I didn't read that. Literally the how he came into the American political himself that he bragged about grabbing women by the vagina with a house. That's how he entered American politics was with that quote. He said that. I know. I saw that on Belly Bush show. I saw that. It was the Belly Bush show. Why is it hard for you to acknowledge that all of these accusations could be true? But saying a statement like that doesn't make him run our country better good, maybe. But Raping women means he shouldn't lead the free [ __ ] world. Yeah, like that should be a disqualifier for us. That's all we're saying is really like morally speaking it should be like, "Okay, you know, maybe I could support other Republicans, but this guy is clearly not the guy that I want to support because he's done behaviors that are so bad." In the same way that like if if he did all of the stuff that we're alleging with Epstein, right? You'd be like, "Oh, I wouldn't support him in that context." So we're just saying like the treat Yeah, so so that's all we're saying is that like we have enough evidence to say that we should disqualify him from your support. You could support other Republican policies and other Republicans. Maybe like for example, if you want to support like Thomas Massie for example, or something. But like it doesn't make sense to support Trump given that there's so much evidence indicating that he's done these horrible things. Just his himself admitting to doing it. I have told Chen Haley on another podcast if this comes out as true any of the allegations that he sexually assaulted children, he is no longer my president and I will dump his ass. But there is also the truth. When we say adults here, like he admitted to himself. I think that's I think that's the smoking gun. He admitted to it himself. I don't know. Is um consensual, maybe? No, he said without asking. He what? >> He bragged about sexually assaulting women by the vagina without asking. Yeah. Mhm. You heard him say it. How do you clarify that there's consent if you don't ask. my president if he did it with children and sexually assaulted children and he will not no longer be my friend. What if he sexually assaulted women? Yeah, like adults. You keep saying children, but he's already been been guilty of doing that to women. Nobody asked him to. Go to I need to see it in a file where they went to court and he's in prison for it. He has been found guilty in the E. Jean Carroll case. He did go to court. He lost that. That was civil. Right. >> Okay, then we're all into the same arguments about Do you accept the felonies against Trump to be true? [snorts] He got five minutes. Not I don't know. We've talked about this before. All the felonies against him to be true or not. We've talked about it before. You keep saying you don't trust the court. You know what? I'm sorry. I don't mean I don't mean to cut anyone off. The point I'm making is that You're changing sides and you don't like it. Hold up. So, the point I'm making is that he's been criminally convicted of felonies and seemingly you don't accept it in the in that situation either. So, is it really the difference between a criminal and a civil court that gets you to like not believe it in this context because seemingly you don't believe the criminal court either. It's also about sexually assaulting children. Anybody that has ever done that needs to rot in hell. Same thing with women. Yeah, also also when the victims are women. Yeah, sexually assaulting literally [ __ ] anyone makes you sick. Yes. That's Donald Trump. Yes. I want to ask you this I want to ask you this question, Mom. Hey. Okay. >> Yeah, go ahead, Mom. Comments cult members. The the part which I don't even know how you do it, but I so the dark web. What about all that stuff on there? I mean, I can't get on there. I don't know how you get on there. Well, didn't Trump pardon the guy who made the [ __ ] dark web? Yes. >> Um listen, I I want to ask you this, Mom. About uh Trump in in the Epstein files. You believe that almost all of the other allegations, all of the other documents that uh point at certain public figures, you believe those to be true, incredible in the Epstein files, right? Again, I guess. Yes, I guess so. >> Okay. So, you believe all these other people that are implicated in the Epstein files are implicated for good reason, but Trump is implicated, Trump is mentioned more than any of those other people, and for some reason, for him, it the burden of proof is higher for you. Why is that? Because he's president of our United States. And I have read some of that, and I've told you, Bank of America, he's mentioned. Um other banks, he's been mentioned. Uh the flight from New York down to Florida, he was mentioned. He was never mentioned to go to Epstein Island. His name was mentioned on different things. >> But I We We did that episode where I literally read you where he is in quotes mentioned committing horrific acts against children in the Epstein files, and you're like, "Well, that was just a tip line. That isn't real." So, that's what I'm saying. Like, you disconnect at some point, and you're like, You always say I never research. I research all this stuff about the tip line, where it said all of that stuff was done by callers. One maybe caller called in three times. Then, when they did try to investigate and get a name and say, "Come in, give us more information." No one came in. Then, um more on the tip line, it was during the years where he wanted right before he wanted to be elected. Um so, some of that I'd have to throw that out. Right. >> Well, things that weren't investigated investigated, for example, was someone who was uh driving them in a I'm pretty sure it was a limo, and they he heard overheard Epstein and them talking about abusing some young girl, Epstein and Trump doing or saying that. And like, they never investigated further upon that. So, I guess that's a claim that you could say that hasn't been investigated further upon that hasn't been disputed in there. And also, one thing I would say is that if they haven't released most of the files, all of the most incriminating stuff has yet to be released. So, I would expect them to release some stuff that they could try to find a way to dispute right away with FBI tips where specifically at some someone did No, thank you. FBI tip where they were able to like show that that wasn't the case or something, right? Because of the fact that there someone was under a psychotic break, for example. That's expected that they would put it under this drop to make people think that it's ridiculous and absurd. And then all the rest of the incriminating stuff still has yet to be released. And they're trying to act like it's been completely released and you don't have to ever release stuff. Yes, I hope there is more and it's all credible. And like in the limousine, if we get that the name of that person, whatever, they need to come forward. Come forward. They have come forward. They told the FBI and now they're not investigating it. That's the whole point of this. >> Do we have a name? They need to get in the journey. >> You ain't got [ __ ] Okay, Dad, you were trying to interrupt Parker there and kind of mumbling under your breath. What were you saying? >> I'm tired of it. Cool. Please [laughter] be nice. Please be nice. God. >> I mean, I'm talking to three cult cult communists, right? What what cult do you think we're in? What god do we pray to in our cult? >> in a cult of communism. Who's our cult leader? Who's our cult leader? So, we're all not communists and we all are liberals, I'm pretty sure, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're all liberals. >> and we're all cult members who pray to no god. Um okay. Well, First of all, I'm not going to debate somebody who probably wasn't even alive when 90% of this [ __ ] happened. >> What does that have to do with anything? He's more knowledgeable in his 23 years of life than you are. Oh, you think? I do. You want You want to You want to test that? Oh, yes. What's the test, Dad? I I don't have to have a test. I'm 70 years old. I know a lot more about life than you do. >> saying what Do you have a question or something? Do you have something that could convince you that Parker knows his [ __ ] I mean, I could tell you about the economic list of each administration and explain to you why like one side is better. >> Okay, what was the Vietnam War all about? >> [laughter] >> Okay, well well from the from the American side it was to limit the expansion of communism around the world or ideologically communism around the world. Oh boy. Who were we fighting against? What about LBJ and the oil? >> Give me a name. The Viet Cong and the Soviet Union and the in China specifically expanding their spheres of influence in terms of communist ideology. Who in North Vietnam started the war in South Vietnam? And I want a name of an individual who lived in North Vietnam. >> He said he doesn't know. >> know Do you know the name of the person who started World War I? Wait, I have a question. Do you know the name of the person who started World War I? Mhm, that was a German. Would have been Kaiser. No, so so it was it was an Austrian specifically, right? That led to it. It there was a like a with Ferdinand. Like I think his name was Archduke was specifically that led to that. I might be remembering that. But like the point I'm making is that just because you don't remember one person's name from a historical point doesn't mean that you can't bring anything to the table in terms of legitimate information. Ho Chi Minh. >> like okay, hold up. I don't know one one person's name in the Vietnam War therefore he can dispute everything that I've ever said. This is absurd. By the way, I didn't I didn't get a degree in history. I got a degree in economics. Shut your [ __ ] mouth again. What I'm pointing out is you don't know specifics of [ __ ] >> [snorts] >> Okay. Really? I do. I can want to bet on that? Like how about this? How many people are in the House of Representatives? Mhm. 425. 35. You're You're close. You're close though. How many continents are there? How many what? How many [laughter] continents are there? >> god. This is like Nick Vial. How many continents are there? Continents? >> Don't know that. >> that. All right. There's seven continents. There's one. It's flat. Um Listen, we can do this kind of like back and forth who knows what about facts and playing Jeopardy and stuff, but it doesn't matter. It's It's just It's absurd because Parker literally makes a living doing this, okay? It's It's what he does. So, to kind of minimize how smart he is Well, but that's and that's the the final kind of like step of your debate here. I think that like Parker has made some very good points. He has presented evidence. He's presented evidence against even your style of debate or your style of kind of logic, your style of reason that you you flounder with at least in this episode. There were a couple of times where you were both just like staring into space after he'd ask a question cuz you had no answer. >> No, I didn't. >> your final strategy in debate is to try and undermine his credibility by saying tell me some weird random facts, you know. Yeah, like ironically, I think what you've actually demonstrated in this podcast is immaturity in being able to deal with political disagreements because you can't take into account any other perspective other than your own. And when someone else, even someone who's younger than you, you can't take into account the fact that maybe they could know something that you possibly don't know or maybe they could teach you about something that possibly you don't know. And I think that's an immaturity that allows for you to not get into disagreements, that allows for you to like then change your mind. And that's why you're cutting me off right now instead of letting me actually speak and listening and trying to hear me out. You do the same thing with your kids as well. Like you don't listen to them because of their age. You completely disregard what they have to say because of their liberal beliefs and you don't take into account anything they have to think because it's opposing to you what you think already. Which is immature in terms of your ability to disagree with people or your ability to change your mind. >> [laughter] >> And even that >> though. It's right though. You guys have a tendency to just drown us out because we're your kids and you don't perceive us to be intelligent in any [ __ ] way. >> Well, he ain't any better, trust me. No, you are brilliant, okay? Well, like have you had the time to be able to identify that? Like you you didn't look into who I am. You didn't have the ability to identify that. We haven't talked about, you know, the policies of each administration or why you support each candidate. >> time's up >> And you're going to make that determination based upon the fact that I'm liberal and young. I didn't know that you were going to be on the show. I would have Googled you and found out more. >> I literally By the way, I'm actually not saying it's about you. I'm only saying it's about the dad. Like I think that you you showed [laughter] that you can engage with beliefs more. Like I just want to be clear like I think that you can engage with beliefs more. I genuinely think there's a productive debate with you. I'm saying this is specifically true about the dad. You you you I think you genuinely have showed that you want to change your mind to some degree and you want to look into things and you want to do research. Now, we might be not be able to change your mind right away, but it does seem like you're at least somewhat engaging in good faith, right? Like that's my point there. I don't want to like feel like you're you're doing that or hard out there. But the dad is like actually 100% unwilling to engage in any dialogue at all or hear from anyone who's younger than him or hear from anyone who specifically disagrees with him. Mhm. This is 100% accurate. >> Yes. >> Um well, Parker, thank you so much for joining us. We have come to the end of our show. At the end of our show, despite all of our political differences and uh some people on this podcast's inability to even see other people potentially as human, um we do tell each other that we love each other because I do think it is an important thing and and kind of part of the title of this podcast, The Necessary Conversation, is that we do have to find some way to come back together after this crazy division that now exists in America as been generated by Trump. So, we all tell each other that we love each other. Mom, I love you. Thank you for doing this. Sorry that I I I did put in the email that Parker was going to be on the show today and put a link to social media so >> email. It's been a long week. I didn't read the email. Okay. My apologies on that one. Dad, I do love you despite the fact that you seem to hate us all. Haley, I love you. Thank you for um being here. And Parker, I love you. Thank you for coming on the show today. It has been a true pleasure. Thank you. It's great meeting all of you. Nice meeting you, Haley. Nice meeting you, Chad. Nice meeting you, Mom, as well. >> Thank you, Parker. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. Uh Parker, I've been following you for a long time. I think you're awesome, especially as a 23-year-old in this world. I think what you do is actually incredible. I think your voice is very important for the younger generation, and I'm [ __ ] thrilled that you're here. So, thank you. Thanks for coming on, enduring, and chatting with our family. I think some Like every time we have a guest, I think it kind of opens up certainly my mom's eyes a little bit, you know, to hear another perspective from someone else. So, I'm appreciative. Thank you very much. Of course. I really appreciate it. Seriously, it was an incredible conversation and to be able to see all Like I really appreciate your work. So, thank you both of you, Chad and Haley. I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to end it. >> Love Mary Lou. And I love the two communist kids. Okay. What about Parker? Don't [laughter] love Parker. He doesn't love me. He doesn't love me. We're not to love him yet. >> [snorts] >> We're getting there. >> I'm not even to dislike. Mr. Parker >> [laughter] >> Wait, wait, so are you indifferent or do you hate me? No, we don't hate you. >> Oh, I do. No, he doesn't. No. What? Mom, I like Mom, you always lean off camera and like give him dirty looks. Just give him the dirty look on [laughter] the camera. Just let us see the dirty look. >> rude to people. I don't want him to be rude to Parker. Thank you, Parker, for coming on. It was nice meeting you, Mary Lou. Okay. >> What is wrong with you today? Nothing. Play mom bird.