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in the aftermath of the 2024 election America is even more divided than before half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it as America inches toward the brink of authoritarian Rule now more than ever we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad couchin with me as always is my sister Haley Pope a fellow left-leaning American citizen in the year 2024 in the final days of and my parents Bob and Mary L hin oh both are present there's my dad rocking away watching Newsmax no what what are you watching Hallmark all right so my parents are watching a Hallmark movie while we do this podcast we are of course talking about the political issues of the day my parents are Maja they support the orange one my sister does not I do not and we feel like this conversation is one that uh needs to happen why it's called the necessary conversation and perhaps it's a conversation that's happening in your very family or it's a conversation you want to have or don't want to have either way we can either uh do it for you and you can listen along with us or maybe give you some kind of a blueprint to how to do this we don't know ourselves mom usually start the show off with some Diddy do you have any this week hang on I sent I mailed mom and dad I mailed your Christmas [ __ ] to you you should get it in the next couple days Christmas [ __ ] okay I'll be looking your Christmas gifts I don't know what to get you so email me or text me send me some links don't give for your kids send me some links for them okay so I didn't get the opportunity to send links I just [ __ ] mailed me a link what I'll send you a link send me links I picked stuff out that I specifically think you and Dad will like that's just how I talk don't get offended your Christmas gifts that I heart felt I handpicked for you are on the way for the holiday send me links you for you and Dad I would love that all right okay um did please oh my well this is not a diddy it's just I love Yellowstone it's on tonight yeah it's uh tonight and then one and then the finale and that's it but they said possibly um he'll go with um another one that involves the two main characters but another one what another one another one I just love Yellowstone and I remember one time Chad you knew somebody when it first started and you said you were going to get me on the show thank you NOP yes you did you said never never said to you I don't know anybody on that show or something early on no for anyone who cares tonight is the [ __ ] last concert of the Taylor Swift erors tour and don't even say you're going no it's like in [ __ ] Canada that hasn't stopped you before what anyway all right so your Diddy is Yellowstone Yellowstone no this is the other Diddy I think you know how our family is very competitive I would like for you each to say yes you will do something and then we'll see who wins next week what is it I want us all to do this what is this the wicked choreography it's right there it's sweeping the nation everybody's doing that dance it's the dance in uh where she takes the book and goes up up and has to if on Tik Tok everybody learn the wicked choreography that scene I I'm not sure that I'm capable of doing that can we begin the show do you have any actual diddies what's going on here my mom just held up her phone to show a scene from Wicked you are wicked that was my diddy by have you seen Wicked mom uh we just saw the Off Broadway play I haven't seen the movie oh you got to see it you're gonna like it a lot I know okay I'm done bye wizard Dev o was your favorite movie or is still yes yes and this is part of that Canon part of that lore I know but I have no one to go with your dad can't sit that long I see on hisp well it'll be on streaming very soon okay all right are we going to begin this show now I'm ready here we go our first topic is President Joseph Biden pardons Hunter Biden now bear with me I'm going to read all the details okay so you may have to be quiet for a moment and here we go last Sunday right after we finished recording our uh other epis of this show from last week it was like literally within 30 minutes I was like [ __ ] uh Joe Biden issued a full and unconditional pardon for his son Hunter Biden covering any federal offenses he may have committed between January 1st 2014 and December 1st 2024 this pardon encompasses a June 2024 conviction on three felony counts related to a 2018 firearm purchase and a September 2024 guilty plea to tax evasion charges involving at least $1.4 million in unpaid taxes although White House staff and Joe Biden himself stated publicly multiple times that he would not pardon Hunter Joe Biden Justified the pardon by asserting that his son was quote selectively and unfairly prosecuted suggesting that political opponents instigated the charges to attack him and oppose his election the decision has drawn criticism from both Republicans and Democrats who view it as a departure from President Biden's previous commitments to uphold the independence of the judicial process some critics argue that the pardon undermines the justice system and sets a concerning precedent this is not the first time a president has pardoned a family member Trump during his first time pardoned Charles Kushner father of Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner after he was convicted of preparing false tax returns retaliating against a cooperating witness and making false statements to the Federal Election Commission in 2005 also former President Bill Clinton on his last day in office on January 20th 20 2001 pardoned his half brother Roger Clinton who spent one year in prison on drug charges after selling cocaine to an undercover police officer Haley are you down with this do you think this was okay for him to do it was not okay for him to do Hunter Hunter Biden should be in jail um I'm not surprised all politicians are [ __ ] garbage so I mean to be expected I guess it's like his last dis effort to do anything he can to you know save his family um the sh yeah yeah I it's terrible it's absolutely wrong every man for himself every person for themselves however you want to look at it mom do you think this was okay to do of course not what I don't like is that from day one I will not pardon him my son yep he lied directly to everyone John Pierre uh we have said this over and over he will not be pardoned he will not be pardoned then they did it at the end but the part I don't like is he's pardoning him from like the day he was born until like a Whole Decade yeah like a Whole Decade ridiculous yeah and a lot of people are saying that that that date in 2014 coincides when with when uh Hunter Biden started doing deals with Ukraine with that Energy company oh really yes and you know at least Trump at least Trump is saying I will pardon the January 6 people so at least he's coming out saying he's gonna do it and saying he's Above the Law yeah Biden is saying I will not I will not and then he does dad what do you think of this pardon [ __ ] it's [ __ ] does this make you uh more angry at Biden less angry do you kind of not care because he's on his way out more more yeah all right I'm surprised I'm surprised somebody hasn't tried to get him try to get who Biden nobody cares yeah time is going to get him the Grim Reaper is going to get him now do you Mom view this as any different from what Trump did what Trump did When what when he pardoned Jared kushner's dad for very similar tax crimes no I mean he did it yeah he did tax crimes he pardoned him for like one or two things what Biden has done is pardon him for 30 million 40 million so Biden is worse yeah that's ridiculous from the day he was born till the day he died he he can't do anything wrong now no just from January 2014 to December 2024 a 10 year period 10 years yeah yeah uh dad do you think that what Biden has done here is worse than what Trump did with Jared kushner's Dad yeah yes in what way because he sold out to Ukraine okay in what way well he made sininsky a billionaire didn't change a [ __ ] thing in the war all right um Haley do you think that what Biden has done here is any better than what Trump did or different anyway no pardoning criminals regardless like no one should be doing that that should not be happening I agree no difference totally agree um mom do you think that this means we are witnessing just Brazen displays of our ruling class acting Above the Law Trump included the bidens are a crime family they ran our country along with Obama it's a crime family that was running our country and we witnessed it we watched it they did all kinds of bad stuff and saying bye-bye and getting away with it there's nothing we can do you don't think Trump was was similarly involved in crimes and not the way they were he was found guilty of 34 felonies oh my gosh here we go no hang on hang on here we go Lord you can't look at what Hunter Biden was found guilty right and should have gone to jail right right okay the Democrats Biden specifically Joe Biden claims that that process was rigged that it was all politicized Trump claims the exact same thing about all of his felony convictions so you can have one of two things here either none of these legal cases were valid they were all trumped up political charges and they weren't real on both sides or they were real and both sides are skirting out of their responsibility under the I believe they were I believe they were real on the Biden side I believe they were not real on the Trump side and do you see how that's a little weird do you see how that's kind of strange no I don't no I don't okay so you don't see it at all that you have built in your mind this kind of fake reality where whatever Trump does is fine but when the other side does it they deserve it no I don't see it that way but interesting haly how about you what do you see it do you think that this is a the American ruling class flaunting to the American people that they are above the law and it doesn't matter they can do anything they want there will be no repercussion yes I it has been getting I mean I feel like it's just been getting worse with every [ __ ] president for the last I don't even know how many elections uh they're just getting away with more and more [ __ ] so yeah I mean I think it's over I think with Trump right now like it's over it's done there's nothing anyone in his family his Circle can do they could literally [ __ ] somebody in Cold Blood Obama did Obama did and got by with it yeah who did Obama Mur doesn't matter the chef okay not sure I I know that story but um the the idea that like Trump is going to come in and now pardon January 6th insurrectionists do you see a problem with that Mom no they should not be in jail they should be let out um another do you think wait a minute wait a minute they shouldn't be in jail they should be let out do you think they broke laws no they did not you saw them literally breaking into the capital building shattering glass at the very least they they were Criminal Trespass breaking and entering and vandalism at the very least you'll agree to that oh my God what I saw was security the security police opening Gates saying come in come this way please please come down here come this way you didn't see when they were picking up trash cans and flag PES and shattering Windows you didn't see that video m climbing the [ __ ] Capital like scaling walls and [ __ ] I did see them going upsteps but I saw the police opening the door saying come this way um I didn't see any weapons the only weapon we saw was the one that killed um what was her name that killed her shot her in the head and that was by a security police guy well speaking of getting killed by gunfire let's move on to our second topic the CEO killer on Wednesday of this week what you why would you say it like that if anybody dies it's not good and you're like well let's get to it on Wednesday of this week Brian Thompson the CEO of United Healthcare was fatally shot outside the New York Hilton Midtown hotel in Manhattan the incident occurred around 6:45 a.m. as Thompson was in route to an investor conference hosted by United Healthcare Group authorities have described the attack as a quote premeditated pre-planned and targeted attack the masked as salent fired multiple shots at Thompson before fleeing the scene on a bicycle the entire incident was recorded on security camera investigators later discovered a backpack near Central Park carousel believed to belong to the suspect which has been sent for forensic analysis surveillance footage indicates the suspect may have left New York City on an interstate bus and a Manhunt is still ongoing and we're five days now from it damn three or four yeah it was Wednesday right Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday four days notably bullet casings found at the scene were inscribed with the words deny defend and depose which is believed to be a reference to an unofficial Mantra of healthcare insurance companies delay deny defend this has led to speculation that the motive may be linked to grievances against United healthc Care's practices in response to the incident healthcare companies are enhancing security for measures for their Executives with some removing Executives photos from their websites and increasing personal protection and Anthem Blue Cross has decided to call off initiating a cap on the length of time they would cover anesthesia in certain surgeries which was national news this week I saw that this week the public reaction to the incident seems to be overwhelmingly positive with a Title Wave of memes positioning the killer as a Robin Hood style figure mom you said this was a bad murder why do you think that any anytime someone takes a gun and just shoots someone that's not right we can't just go around doing that having a rodeo and killing people hang on a minute Dad how do how does dad feel about this how do you feel perfect you like it he yes okay I was just curious Mom it's interesting I that seems in line with dad because he's always talking about the the metals hitting the meat time to take to the streets and just start [ __ ] capping people and that is now what has happened but here's what I here's what I here's some of my feelings on all of this after I've read everything after I've seen everything I'm kind of like this uh what my mind like I have to get everything in front of me before I make judgment okay what I think this is all about whoever that shooter was someone in his family was denied coverage and died because of it I think that's likely yeah yeah he went after him but I don't think it's a he I think maybe that was a she if you go back and look at the way they held the gun at the way they stood the frame the body frame I think it's a she and I it was not a hit it was not a professional hit because of professional would have never taken that mask down at where Starbucks or somewhere where they did get a kind of a good picture of them yeah I think writing stuff on the bullets is is pretty much an indicator that this was a personal motive now you think it's a woman though what I mean what about the pictures when I first looked at that picture I even said Dad that's a woman I think I think yeah some fake uh eyebrows maybe put on and a little bit of beard or something I think maybe it was a woman interesting um Haley what are your feelings on this uh I don't condone murder um you know it's not right to kill people however I can't say that I really give a [ __ ] that he died um I feel like sometimes uh people get fed up which like dad's talking about you know Murder in the streets if it doesn't go his way and we have an entire country now who is uh you know our health care sucks everybody's living in a depressive state we don't have enough money people can't buy houses we are starting to reach that point where oh [ __ ] I guess the left is going to gun up too and it's happening they literally just murdered a [ __ ] CEO of a health care company so um I think they should be scared I think it's right for them to be terrified and start taking photos down of CEOs because uh this whole country is now owned by billionaires so we are only going to be further in the [ __ ] grave I think more [ __ ] like this will [ __ ] happen I think what I read too if he something about he put a cap on so many benefits so then that he would make more money that get rich a bigger payout himself go ahead sorry this is just I think this is just a tip of the iceberg it this will potentially Bolden others to do the same because you know if you have nothing left to live for if your loved one has died and you have you don't have enough money to [ __ ] you're like [ __ ] it I don't care and the fact that he's getting away with it if this goes unsolved for a month other people are going to be like [ __ ] ain't that tough the NYPD can't find this guy they have an annual budget of like s billion dollar or something they can't find him I mean [ __ ] if I live in like [ __ ] [ __ ] middle of nowhere small Pound USA I got a real good shot of get away with this you know exactly what about like face recognition and fingerprints they said that it had uh fingerprints on a cup from Starbucks or something what well I mean if you're not if you're not in any kind of a system that they're not going to find your fingerprints or even if you are what's that GNA do they put his name up and stuff you still have to find the guy a fingerprint is not catching the guy I mean I know that that's not right to just take the guy and murdered the guy but you know what if that was your dad and I couldn't get coverage for him because I didn't have the money and they put a cap on something let's say for the cancer medicine or whatever and we couldn't get it and dad died I'd go I'd go Rodeo I'd go kill him I would I mean all right kill someone over it I would kill someone how would you do it Bob how would you make the kill uh the way a DEA undercovered agent taught me how to shoot a gun just like that stance that that stance that shooter was except I put my right foot forward in an anchor she do the same thing she would do the same thing okay make sure you at least get eyebrows and a beard going because I don't need you getting caught all right okay yeah okay I think that this is coming at a time it's like clearly or at least it seems you know maybe the writing on the bullets was all just a mislead I don't know but it seems like this was personally motivated that that this person somebody in their life probably died as the result of uh some kind of denial from um United Healthcare dad's holding for a minute I gotta get kitty I think there's just there's like a desperation in the air right now people have just had enough and I think as you're watching Donald Trump a billionaire win reelection and Surround himself with billionaires in his cabinet and Elon Musk and all this it seems very hopeless for the average person that if you are not a billionaire you control nothing and they make decisions that can potentially lead to the death you all right Dad what's going on there what you don't you don't have to hold the thing if you don't want to be on the show today it's cool I'm holding it okay um I think that it there's a bigger thing in the Zeitgeist than just this guy's loved one died as the result of like healthcare being denied I think it's a bigger kind of like we have no recourse the system has completely failed the average human being or the average American citizen Because unless you're a billionaire you make no decisions anymore and they voting is irrelevant you're either going to put in Joe Biden or a proxy of Joe Biden or you're going to put in Donald Trump it's all bad anywhere you look and the only thing that I think some people feel like they have is the ability to pick up a gun because we can all get those very easily the Republicans have made sure of that and just put a [ __ ] bullet in the skull of whatever CEO of whatever company exists that has [ __ ] you over in some way does this trickle down to Amazon delivered my package two days late I'm killing Jeff Bezos does it go all the way does it go that far when when does this stop or is this it I mean I think it's it's interesting that this has happened it's an isolated event like you Haley I don't condone murder but as I'm watching this there's some damn funny memes and I I don't care that this guy is dead like at all um if you put yourself in a position to make hundreds of millions of dollars or a billion dollars or whatever and it's by making decisions that kill people yep to me it's kind of like this is part of that job now and you have to be okay with that and these companies like taking down the pictures of their CEOs on the website it's like what you know the internet's forever right you know that's not going to do anything it's just like the minimum barrier like well we took your picture down off the website good look at that car this afternoon yeah yeah I I mean in essence it's a it's a necessary evil because there are no checks and balances like who's going to hold these people accountable oh [ __ ] I might get murdered maybe I shouldn't do that anymore so I mean it's almost it's necessary you saw it happen with the the Blue Cross uh Blue Shield The Anthem thing they were going to put a cap on how much they would pay for people under anesthesia in certain operations like a time limit on it if your operation goes an extra 30 minutes sorry we're not going to pay that you have to pay [ __ ] $110,000 or whatever immediately in the news after this happened no no no we're not gonna do that yeah it worked well it worked exactly and that's the real message that's coming through Laden clear to me is it worked uh it got this another giant healthc care provider to stop doing what they were about to do that would [ __ ] over how many people financially because it's not just that they make decisions that that you know let people die unnecessarily they make decisions that will financially [ __ ] entire families for Generations here's what they need to do find here's what they need to do to find that person um I should have been a private eye they said that that person came from a bus out of Atlanta yeah so go go to Atlanta area put in the database someone that recently died due to lack of cover I've thought about whether or not like you know they haven't found them and and whether or not I want them to be found I've thought about this and I do believe that this is not just a homicidal maniac they're not out there just trying to kill people yeah um you're not on the I don't I don't want them to be found oh God I knew I don't either you would be on the side that people are rooting this person on oh my God I'm not rooting the person on what I want is this again like we were just talking about there is no recourse these companies do whatever they want this guy and and his board of directors literally hire lobbyists to go to Washington pump the system full of millions of dollars into candidates Pockets so they can write the laws that dictate how they get to operate as a giant healthc care provider that's how that system works the the common person who has to pay into these systems has no say in the matter and so now need to change it it did change it did change you can't if you can't find this [ __ ] who killed that CEO you got a Batman out there and people are puckered up oh [ __ ] exactly it's the psychology of it that it's like this guy's out there there may be other people that are out there and they can't find him so it's not somebody going on like a last ditch homicidal Rampage like you're saying Haley it's not like a a falling down situation if you remember that Michael dougas movie this is a person who said I'm going to take this guy out and disappear and I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that happens Manhunt or not and if somebody else pops off and does this now what you got two of them is it the same guy what if it happens again and then it becomes this it's more of an idea that there is accountability that if you make these decisions as a high- ranking executive officer of any of these healthc care companies food companies any of these big uh multi-billion dollar companies in America that kind of control how we live maybe there's going to be somebody waiting in the bushes when you go out to your car in the morning that idea alone is potentially enough to get them to stop doing these terrible practices like I said that Blue Cross Blue Shield Anthem thing it literally worked that day yep I'll tell you what they're going to do if they can't find this person they will find a py I bet see we have pictures of the person I know they'll find a py and say surgery gone I don't know about that I mean I think if they don't find him they don't find him and it just becomes this thing that we know that again that it's a possibility yeah how's how weird is that though an average this is an average person that did this it's not a professional hit and they can't find them what if there was a professional hit on somebody else you know one of the bad guys that came across the border professional hit against Trump or Biden and boom and they can't even get them anymore the professional hit though thing is is a different scenario and not as interesting because a professional hit means somebody who had some kind of financial means could have been a rival in the political sphere or the corporate Health Care sphere or whatever you know a hit is a different thing this seems very much like a person just a regular citizen who was Fed Up you killed my grandma you killed my mom whatever I there's no way I can get anything any type of satisfaction or make the situation right other than taking a gun and shooting you and I'm going to do that now that idea like Dad has always said it's the metal hitting the meat and when the people start rising up against the corporate overlords that actually control this country I mean you can see that they're scared yeah that I think is a good thing it's what it it literally takes a revolution to change it literally takes like vigilante [ __ ] and that's what's happening okay would you ever kill in service of vigilante [ __ ] Haley me yeah I mean I'm not like a murderer you know per se but if I've always thought about this could I kill someone I absolutely believe I thought about it yeah I think about it a lot because I have like a family and children if anybody hurt them or you know or an in in your house like a kill or be killed scenario like I could kill yeah um I don't know if it's all circumstantial to protect know to protect if I had nothing left like absolutely nothing left and and it was taken from me from some big corporation like this maybe yeah maybe interesting I mean to protect yourself or your family I think you would kill yes this was just retribution though yeah seemingly maybe I mean maybe I think I'm capable of it I'm kind of crazy yeah maybe yeah Dad has always said when he got real old which were kind of right there uh that he would just go on a rampage for fun but I don't think he would really I think it would require getting out of the chair limping limping down the street yeah um he's tired today all right so we really haven't gotten that heated up Dad's been kind of Mia in this episode but nonetheless let's do a simmer down I was going to ask each of you Dad included if he wants to participate what yeah go ahead what is one thing that you're looking forward to that is not political mom and dad so not Trump being inaugurated what's something you're looking forward to in the near future in regard to what what are we talking about life anything that makes you happy that you're yeah I'll go right I got things um I got things thanks uh so Willow is applying to all these colleges I literally can't wait to see where she's going to go mhm um so we're waiting on acceptance letters that's pretty exciting in this household um I'm getting ready to travel go out of the country for a little bit that's exciting where are you going um I think we're trying to get to Syria LA to see graduation um La is the country that's for sure and then we're gonna uh I think we're gonna go to Poland Germany and Switzerland nice mom I have nothing dad nothing nothing you're looking forward to nothing pretty much pretty much okay oh no Fatu comes out on Christmas yeah we're g to see that looking forward to that it's going to be me and laur's Christmas movie yes too huh I don't even know what that is no Fatu no Fatu I don't know what that is no spatu say it again I don't know what that is no sparatu say it again I don't do you know do you know what Dracula is yes it's that you don't Fatu stop it say no feratu Dracula then I would know it's not Dracula it's Nosferatu is it Bella legosi no it's Nosferatu do you know Bella legosi yeah but this is no Fatu okay say it mom say no Fatu please Mom see it see it come on Dracula it's coming out it comes out on Christmas say it Dad will you say no spatu please no he's not he's saying no to no Fatu please one of you say no Fatu please Kitt you'll say it Kitty says she'll say it oh we're coming we're going to Colorado for Christmas and coming to see you guys for Christmas I need to talk to you about those dates we're coming back from Colorado and we want to stop and see you okay cool okay what's going on over there today we're just tired all right well we've got two more topics or not as you see fit make it all right we're plowing on uh Pete Heth news in addition to the 2017 sexual assault allegation that ended with heg paying his accuser for her silence this week saw more scandalous information emerging about Trump's choice for Secretary of Defense Pete Heth this time about his irresponsible relationship with alcohol in 2015 a complaint letter uh now former VA employee sent to management described Heth chanting quote kill all Muslims kill all Muslims in a quote drunk and violent manner in the 2015 document hex was was described as being repeatedly intoxicated at multiple work events where he was presiding as head of the organization sometimes to the extent that other employees had to physically carry him away 10 current and former Fox News employees detailed their experiences with se's drinking saying he smelled of alcohol and would frequently discuss being hung over before taping Fox and Friends Weekend three Fox employees described having to babysit him on multiple occasions because he was so drunk at the 2017 wedding of a fellow Fox News host heg Seth got so drunk he was struggling to remain standing while in the men's restroom while heg Seth is currently denying ever having had a drinking problem the former Fox News host in the past has publicly discussed and written about his abuse of alcohol but he has verbally promised to stop drinking if he lands in the role of Secretary of Defense mhm mom you don't care if he sexually assaulted a woman do you think a person who has abused alcohol at work should be given arguably the most important role in the cabinet was that proven he himself wrote about it in his biography there are multiple eyewitness accounts of people who had to babysit him and he was drunk and hung over on air on Fox News if that's the pick Trump wants then that's the pick he should have okay very interesting so whatever Trump wants Trump gets regardless of if it's a guy who is drunk on the job as Secretary of Defense Trump wants him yeah yeah all right uh dad does Dad care about this do you care about this he's the guy say it again he's the guy he's the guy from all right we can just leave dad out of this one I'm sorry we we I don't mean to bother you Dad enjoy your chair Haley what do you think about all these allegations do you think this is going to make it uh more likely less likely have no effect at all on his confirmation he will not be confirmed there's no there's no way he will not be confirmed oh Dad's talking this is absolute [ __ ] lunacy he will be confirmed he will be dad's F his sleep he will be confirmed um he won't there's no way well here's the thing though by this point with Matt Gates Matt Gates retracted his uh what he's not running for the the uh position but he he bailed out he dropped out um heg Seth doesn't seem to be dropping out he's not going to Matt Gates I think was afraid that whatever was found out in that investigation was going to be revealed publicly and it was not going to be good and it was going to be about sex with minors and all kinds of [ __ ] that said heg seems to not care about any of this he only has one sexual assault allegation seemingly paid her off she can never talk about it and the rest of it is just drunk and he's written about it and talked about it and been about it and he's promised he'll never drink again if he gets the job at least not on the job Mom do you believe that do you believe his promise that he'll never drink again I don't know the man I just know Trump wants him I mean look at all the drunks already um Camala Harris my God what if Trump wanted the CEO killer to be Secretary of Defense you know I don't think he's going to pick people that are not good for the job so you don't see that he's picking people who are there are two kinds of people he's picking Heth is in one category uh Matt Gates is in this category as well extreme loyalists who will do anything he says never say no and they have this kind of checkered Rough Around the Edges pass that involves uh sexual assaults that involves drinking drug use Etc the other uh kind that he's picking is billion I think we need people that he is picking that will do right for our country and he knows that that's why he's picking them other than look at some of the ones Biden picked Jesus Christ yeah but controlling the Department of Defense you would agree it's a a big job an important job yes all right that person you're trying to bait me go ahead I'm not trying to bait you I'm saying yes you are this guy has a history well documented he's an alcoholic of being drunk while working do you want the person running the Department of Defense to be drunk while they're doing it the guy we got now wasn't even there yeah the guy we have now was in the hospital for three or four days didn't even tell anybody missing an action no one knew it so what's worse what's worse a drunk alcoholic or somebody that's drinking on the job someone that's not even there both very bad drunk is worse because drunk is going to be an ongoing problem and I think that you know maybe people aren't aware of the fact that like yes Donald Trump is picking these people who will never tell him no there are going to be circumstances times when Donald Trump is not making the decision or potentially even aware that a decision needs to be made it will fall on heg Seth he will make that decision potentially drunkenly I don't know we'll see we'll see if he gets the nomination and through or not yeah we will but I mean you guys aren't concerned at all about the these allegations that are coming up or the his alcohol abuse this in no way gives you pause that maybe that's a bad choice do you believe it's possible for Donald Trump to make a bad choice I keep seeing on TV and he keeps saying that they're all allegations not to worry and Donald Trump said he's a good guy right but do you believe everything Donald Trump says a lot of it yes [Music] okay um do you believe everything that Biden said I will not pardon my son no this is we we've tried to get this through to you guys and I don't think it ever lands Haley and I don't like Joe Biden nor do we trust vote for him why did you vote for him because he's not Donald Trump they are both terrible Trump is way worse you could have not voted for him wrote someone in or left it blank that's not how America works you know this oh okay you got two teams they're basically the same team but Dad coming out of his sleep you don't want to you don't want to know what' he say you didn't have to vote you didn't have to vote for Biden he said no spatu you could have wrote your own name in yeah you could have left it blank okay or or written somebody else in well why didn't you vote for me then I wanted Trump why not me because I wanted Trump you wouldn't even vote for me Dracula dad said hell no all right let's move on Jesus to our final topic yeah I know this one I thought the CEO killer was gonna get our blood pumping nobody seems to give a [ __ ] about this it's the most interesting thing that's happened um in this country I do think it's because you don't want to condone murder but you also are kind of rooting for him so it's like I don't you can't really yeah I don't know no exactly it's like for all of us it's this I kind of think it's a she they're gonna catch whoever it is they will cat no they're not no they're not I don't know if they will or not no they're not I think they will even though now it's out of New York they've gone they're out in New York uh he was her or she was in a taxi cab that took them to the um the bus depot that goes out ofate and that was the last connection so they're out of state somewhere already sure you know what is wild to me about this as well is like this was a I don't think this person was a billionaire but hundreds of millions of dollars this person was worth killed it is the biggest news story in America all police and FBI resources are being focused on finding this person The Manhunt anybody who just gets like shot and killed on the south side of Chicago don't give a [ __ ] yeah don't give a [ __ ] but because a billionaire or a person who's worth $ hundred million doar at the top of a giant United States healthc care multi-billion dollar company it's like find that person this can't stand and you you see in real time the double standard that exists in terms of how law enfor enforcement is used and and even all of this is started because of the double standard that wor $100 million is making decisions on who lives and who dies I I don't think but I think they're on it because it was right there in plain sight and you see on camera the shooter the gun and the person he's taken down and there's another person standing right there who like has just walked out of one of those buildings who was like one foot away from it just watching it all go down there's a car going by on the street like I don't know if the people in that car saw it or whatever but I mean yeah it's absolutely Wild and that is another part of it to me that makes it so enthralling is like this isn't you know in the shadows a secret assassin this is just a US citizen saying I'm going to come to New York for 10 days figure out your patterns I know you're going to be at this conference and the first time I see you I'm just gonna [ __ ] kill you and walk away and you're not gonna catch me watch today after we say goodbye they'll find that person five minutes after we quit the show today probably yeah let me actually let me Google real quick they always five minutes after we stopped the show either Trump got it's because there was no there was no no team behind it it was just this one person operating on their own with a very specific job and they're I don't think they're gonna catch them I think it was the mother that died didn't get medical benefits that should have it killed her and this is a family member that says it is wild though like given all of the technology that we have today you know the advancements in like Prime and all that [ __ ] like they have not found this person and if if someone else out there is thinking it has the same idea and they see how easy it was oh I read it was very easy they just [ __ ] did it I read I think they found the backpack they thought yeah because it was ditched in the park and it had monop money that's what I just read Monopoly money was found in a backpack believed to be worn by the United Healthcare CEO's killer and what could be another cryptic message that's interesting I would have loved if they would have thrown Monopoly money on the person it's just I'm not into murders I again I don't condone them you seem to be today you're all excited about this it's more about like the the symbolic nature of this the ideology of what has happened is for the the first time at least in my life during the kind of like slot di into corporate control of everything including the United States government this is the first time I've seen the the citizenry basically say like no [ __ ] you we're not doing that yeah and it it sends a message like oh [ __ ] there is something that can be done it just requires that you know maybe you become a fugitive for the rest of your life that there are some people who are going to be desperate enough to do that and I don't know if this is going to spawn copycats I think it is a big step to like take somebody's life I think that's a a big undertaking you have to be psychologically prepared for and again this person can never live a normal life again they've got to flee the country if they want to survive and and set up a new life somewhere else I don't know if a lot of people are willing to do that but I also don't know if that's necessarily required it could just be a matter of people who are willing to die for this you know the the kind of flip side of this could have been he just guns the guy down and waits for the cops to show up and I think there may be people who have that kind of mentality as well I don't know he had to be the mom his mama died it could be he did it he did it for the mama or a wife or a girlfriend or a child we will soon find out indeed let's move on to our fourth and final topic the woke list military leaders are expressing concern over a list compiled by the conservative American accountability Foundation or the aaf which identifies 20 senior officers labeled as quot quote woke ideologues due to their support for diversity equity and inclusion initiatives the aaf has urged Pete hegseth to dismiss these officers if confirmed the list predominantly features officers who have publicly advocated for Dei policies including a significant number of women the aaf president Tom Jones criticized these officers for promoting what he views as problematic Dei policies aligning with hegs and Trump's opposition to such initiatives Pentagon officials are concerned that targeting officers for their support of Dei could harm morale and retention within the ranks they emphasized the importance of diversity in maintaining an effective fighting force former military officials warn that such actions could politicize the military and undermine its apolitical nature mom should the military remain apolitical I think all of the Dei all of the wokeness get it out get rid of the 20 H hang on should the military remain a political no so you want to get to a point where the Army is just kicking in your door and going who did you vote for yes are you speaking now he's speaking he speak he said yes I the wokness needs to leave and needs to get hang on hang on we're not talking about wokeness yet we're talking about the military and if you believe it should remain a itical dad says no what are your thoughts on this I don't know let Haley talk first she always hit me up first okay Haley I I know Haley's answer she is going to say yes as would I that's the same thing to do if the military becomes politicized what if it goes the other way what if your door is kicked in and a guy with a machine gun says did you vote for Trump you say yes and they United Healthcare you H I don't know okay I don't know so you do think it should be political or not I'm I'm kind of confused here I don't I have no idea I think she does I don't think she does okay now let's get to this other thing that you're talking I'm gonna say no okay I'm gonna say as well no Fatu that's no Fatu should the military remain diverse and race and gender is my next question Haley I assume yes yes Mom you say no what should the military be comprised of all white men that's funny no women can but I don't want them in combat I don't think they're not strong enough but some of these things aren't even about just men and women some of these are about Dei policies generally diversity generally should black people be allowed in the military in your mind yes I don't care what color you are I want the best person that has the best qualifications in that job and you don't think a woman could potentially meet those qualifications but not in combat why because they're not as strong as a man you don't have to be that strong to fire a gun or launch a missile oh when someone's coming at you with the knife to your neck or your um comrade next to you yeah you do have to be stronger uhhuh uhhuh they're always in the trenches in in Mom and Dad's mind we're always in the trenches it's like they're fighting World War I what the [ __ ] with my comrade yeah what the how about how about piloting a drone can a woman do that yeah or even a plane sure but not not physical combat we have said that okay so these how about the 13 people that got left in Afghan Afghanistan those guys what forget it okay so there's this list that came out that this organization the aaf uh which stands for the American accountability Foundation this right-wing uh Think Tank kind of organization they have identified 20 senior officers labeled as woke ideologues they want Pete hegseth to get rid of them as soon as he's in there these are high ranking members of Air Force I believe it's Air Force Army and Navy there were no Marines listed they are majority of them not the majority I think it was eight of the 20 are women but that is well beyond the statistical makeup of of those different um military branches so it seems to be heavily weighted toward w women being targeted do you think these people should be eliminated from their jobs that they have put Blood Sweat in tear fighting for our country years on the line decades in some cases to get to where they are in these military organizations do you think they should be eliminated as soon as heg Seth is in office I need to see their qualifications and what they have done do you it's all about qualifications it's not about if you're black white purple blue or a woman or a man it's the qualifications to get you there do you why would you want someone flying an airplane that does not have experience does not have is not these people aren't flying airplanes these people are in senior positions in all of these military branches why would you want an alcoholic who is unqualified running that department for our government has that been proven do you think he's the best qualified person host because he's he is unqualified he's not he'll do the right thing if you want to talk about qualifications then your logic goes out the window because none of his cabinet picks are [ __ ] qualified oh they all are dad said yeah how in what way in what way is Linda McMahon qualified to run the Department of Education shut it down okay Dad's over there mumbling yeah I heard him he said she's GNA shut it down so be improvements right so by shutting down the Department of Education that's an improvement yes by the way they are closing Garden Ridge Elementary just so you know along with five other elementary schools in our town I don't believe it I I if they're closing it it has to do with numbers sure it does sure numbers what do you mean like not enough kids go to that school anymore because inacurate yeah because the suburbs of Dallas is definitely are getting smaller right I'll Google that I'll look it up tonight please do raing an interesting point here about these qualifications you keep saying the best person who's qualified for the job should have it and and you're denying that that same logic should be applied to any of Trump's cabinet that logic is whatever Trump wants he gets he wouldn't have picked them if he didn't think they were qualified or they could he is picking people who are billionaires or will never tell him no that it that qualification in in all of his cabinet is do you have a billion dollars or more or Elon Musk is the richest man in the world great he's qualified too to do things to run the government how is he qualified how did he how did he get that rich mommy and daddy no I mean his mom and dad were rich but not like that he his he got most of his money because he was one of the engineers of PayPal and he probably knows how to get rid of the stuff that's not needed and keep the stuff that is needed and that's going to be his job and Rana swam however you say his name well let's take another look at this qualifications thing in the military do you think that these people can Ascend the ranks in the military to achieve whatever ranks they are again many of them very high ranking military positions do you think that you get those promotions over the years with without being qualified for them again I would like to look at the qualifications of the people okay because we know there's some people that give [ __ ] to get their way up in the rankings we all know that Elon Musk yeah right who are you talking about what what's going on here Harris well known oh my God they think that's funny Cala Harris just to let you know Cala Harris lost the election and I know that you guys operate from a place of needing to Target someone with hatred that's kind of your your primary mental state oh it's 1 o' not yet we still got three minutes my house it is that's I'm just saying I'm just saying KLA Harris did not win Hillary Clinton did not win Obama did not win Biden is on his way out who will you hate during Trump's uh four years just whoever he says I suppose the left I will always hate Obama I will always hate the left side uh liberals that don't understand things us me and Haley basically you say you're not Liberals are you liberals I'm not a Democrat I would say I'm very liberal oh not [Music] good all right well this has been a very weird one thank you for joining us and we didn't have any questions this week if you're out there if you're listening if you've made it to the end of this episode which maybe there's one or two of you hanging on send me a question at the necessary conversation pod gmail.com and maybe we can start getting some more uh questions in the mix we had no questions we had no questions this week that's sad that's a life that makes me sad you got to do a better job on Instagram promoting the show God I'm trying all I get is bad people saying bad things again it's getting hard welcome to the internet could be worse you could be the CEO of a major healthc Care Organization in the United States thank you for 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