Does Maga Support Trump's Post About Mueller?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culchin. With me this week is the whole family. Both of my parents, my mom and her best American flag hat. They are, of course, big-time Trump supporters. He can do no wrong. And my sister Haley Pope, the exact opposite. Big- time Trump detractor. He can do no right. And I fall in that camp as well. Mom, I do. You have diddies today. >> You told me not to prepare that you had something. >> I do. So, last week or over the past couple of weeks actually, I've been talking about how I'm trying to um use certain experimental human consciousness techniques to get our dead ancestors to visit dad in his dreams. Dad, hi. How you doing? Okay, cool. Cool. Um, and I didn't know like I I'm just [ __ ] around with these weird deep meditations. I don't know if this shit's real. I have no idea. Right. So, one of the the main techniques that I've been using because dad, I never met your biological parents. So, I have no personal relationship with them. So, I've been going into that generation with people that I do have personal relationships with. That's our grandparents, Haley. Nanny specifically, who I feel like is the grandparent that I was the closest to. I've been trying to reach out and contact her in the astral plane or whatever you want to call it to try and get her to find dad's mom and bring her to dad in his dreams. >> So, I explain that is my mother, >> your mom, right? >> That you call nanny Georgia. >> So, I've been doing this and talking about it a little bit, but not anything uh you know, super overt. And this past week, I really kicked it into high gear. really like making the attempt every night and going like hard into it. I imagine nanny who is your mom when I'm doing this. I imagine that I'm in her old uh that living room in their house and that she is there but for some reason when I picture her she appears to me in like her mid20s roughly a version of her I never knew obviously being her grandchild. So, mom, this week you just start blowing up the text thread that's you, me, and Haley in it with these pictures of Nanny from when she's in her mid20s. I'm going to throw some of these up on the screen right now. This is her. Um, the these photos just start coming through our chat and I'm like, what in the hell is going on? Like, literally, this is what I'm seeing when I'm doing these things. I'm seeing this version of her. You know, there's her and who is she with there? That's her best friend. >> Okay. >> They lived in Kansas together. They were like probably that is maybe 16, 17, maybe a little bit older. >> Nothing was written on the back of that one. >> That one is >> laying in the grass. >> That's a glamour shot from the 50s. >> So you please explain to me how you came into possession of these pictures. >> That's Aunt Virginia. It does look like Aunt Virginia, but I think it's mom. They looked a lot alike. >> No, that's Aunt Virginia. >> Okay, maybe that one is Aunt Virginia. Okay, >> that's Virginia, too. >> That's Manny. >> Okay, >> that's And that said age um I think 16 on the back. I have never seen that picture of her. >> That's where we get it from. Um so, Mom, please explain how these pictures came into existence and why you sent them to me. >> Right. I got a um messenger um through Facebook of um a friend of the daughter of >> her name's and >> don't give people's names. I have to bleep all that out. I have to bleep all that out. >> I'm going to send you some pictures of your mother. >> Uh and maybe you can share them, you know, with with your kids and grandkids. She said, "I'm going through her pictures now, and there was a lot of pictures of your mother in there because they were best friends growing up in Kansas." I said, "I can't wait to get them." Uh, they showed up on my doorstep on Thursday, I think it was. And these were pictures I had never seen of my mother that young. Never. And I have all of her other pictures that we saved up on her death. Never have I seen about three of those pictures. And they showed up on my doorstep. I opened. I really was thinking she was going to send pictures of me on Shadow the Pony that I used to ride at their farm, but I didn't get any of those. >> Yeah. All right. Well, Mom, do you take this as evidence that what I'm doing is working? >> Something is because out of nowhere those pictures were on my front door. I've I've done some other weird things where it feels like, as you know, I don't think any of this physical world is real. And I think we can manipulate it with uh attempts of strange interactions with consciousness and things. And I do think once you start doing it, the game plays back with you a little bit. I've had multiple instances like this. You could call them synchronicities if you like where I think for me personally it seems to be some kind of evidence something beyond mere coincidence these synchronicities that are like okay you're on the right track or whatever dad what do you think about this? >> I got nothing. >> You have zero thoughts about it? >> Yeah. >> You don't find it at all interesting that these pictures showed up when I'm attempting to contact Nanny in the afterlife? No. >> Well, I do. >> Haley, what do you think about it? >> Uh, for a long time, really, like my whole life, um, I asked for the Ouija board when I was like six. Okay. Like I'm trying to summon things all throughout elementary school with my friends. Um, I've stayed >> summoner. >> Summoner. Um, yeah. Like I think some parents wouldn't let their kids like come back or something. I might be making that up, but we always pulled out the Ouija board. and everybody's always freaked out and >> uh you know I've always we've stayed in haunted hotels like even now into adulthood I'm desperate to like are ghosts real is like spirituality a thing um so I have attempted my entire life to like communicate with something and never achieved it uh it can't be coincidental I Yes, >> I mean it can be, but it's it's it's highly coincidental. And I've had other things that are even more specific than this occur to me when I will do weird [ __ ] in my deep meditations and then the next day something will happen. That seems to be the game itself saying like here's the answer you wanted. We have Yeah, we have like a running joke at my bakery that if you speak it into my bakery, like you better [ __ ] watch out because >> there are wild things that have transpired that like we have talked about openly and like oh you know XYZ and then literally a week later it's like you're never going to [ __ ] guess what happened. So I feel like um >> yeah. Yeah. As I get older, I believe more and more in kind of like the woo woo [ __ ] that I always hard pass. Like in my 20s, I was staunchly like, "This is all [ __ ] You just die. That's [ __ ] it." Um, >> but yeah, as I get older, I do >> There are too many coincidences that are happening for me to think that it's just >> sheer coincidence. >> What's dad grumbling about? >> He's tired. I asked him, "Do you want to be on the podcast?" He said, >> He said, "What? This is at will, Dad. If you don't want to do it, you can bail." >> Hello. >> Do you want to do it tonight? >> I'm fine. If you all leave me all alone. >> Well, that's not what the podcast is. We're not going to leave you alone. >> Okay, this is going to be a good one. Thanks for that indulgence of the diddies. Uh, we're going to start off here with a listener question. As we always do, if you have a question, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format and send it to the necessary conversation pod at gmail.com. Are you ready for the question? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Here we go. >> Hi, my name is Chelsea. I'm from Toronto, Canada. My question is for Bob and Mary Lou. You both say that you do not like anyone who talks negatively about America, who talks negatively about Christianity, don't like pedophiles, and you don't like it when tax dollars go to waste on >> it. So, my question is, why do you support Israel? Israel is on record saying that one American, sorry, one Israeli life is the equivalent to 40,000 American lives and those lives are currently being sacrificed in Israel. You don't like it when your tax dollars go to waste on immigrants and you don't want them to get urgent care. You don't want them to get food. So why are you okay with Israelis taking $3 billion of taxpayer dollars, your taxpayer dollars, so that they can give their Israeli citizens free healthcare, free education, free housing. Right now is bombing Lebanon. Over a million people have been displaced and 1,400 people have been killed and 40% of Lebanon is Christian. You forget the fact that Israel is all over the Epstein files. The former Israeli leader is on record meeting with Jeffrey Epstein to order a fruit salad. That's my question. I hope you can answer it. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye-bye. >> Okay. Did you get any of that? >> I apologize. I heard taxpayer dollars and that was it. We could not hear it, Chad. Yeah, the audio on it was very low. Um, she's basically saying Israel, we are giving them $3 whatever billion dollars a year to subsidize their countries free healthcare, etc. Most of that goes to defense, but I'm sure some of it does get leaked out into social services. So, we don't give our own citizens free healthcare, but we do subsidize Israel's free healthcare. Uh, they are bombing Lebanon right now, that city and that country. 40% Christian. So they are killing Christians. Are you okay with that? >> No. >> Okay, Dad. >> Yes. >> Okay, good talk. Um, Israel, their former leader is in the Epstein files emailing Epstein ordering a fruit salad is what she said, which many people believe is code for ordering children. Are you okay with that? >> No. >> Okay, Dad. Yes, I'm all for anything Israel is doing. >> Right. And that basically is the question. They're doing all these things that are counter to stuff that you have said on this show you don't want. >> No, they're not counter to what I said. >> Okay. And um >> I've told you a hundred times being a Christian doesn't exempt you from getting your ass killed in a war. >> Right. But you're okay with Christians getting killed then? >> Yes. Absolutely. >> Okay. And mom, you're not. >> I don't like anyone killed in a war. Okay. But Israel is, as you know, committing genocide in Gaza. Now, it's looking like whatever is about to happen in Iran as we're escalating this, that could very well be a similar situation. Israel is I mean, we're going to get to that. It's our first topic. >> It seems like they're the one controlling this entire war. They're the one that kind of forced our hand to get into it, it seems like. So, why do you support Israel? >> I don't think they are the reason we got into this war. We were going to do the war no matter what. >> Okay. >> Trump said, >> "We'll get to that." >> Okay. >> No, no, no. Go ahead, Mom. No. Okay. Let's just get into it. That it's our first topic. >> Topic number one, the war. Yeah. >> We're still at war with Iran. This is our first topic. As we head into the fourth week of Trump's super quick war with Iran. >> We're not at war with Iran. We're just kicking their [ __ ] ass. >> Okay. Let Chad talk it out. >> There's no war. They don't fight back. >> Uh, that's not right. Um, as >> Okay. Well, we'll get to that. haven't done a damn thing to the United States. >> Okay, let me read this and then I'll we can talk about it. Okay, >> read away, big boy. >> Thank you, big boy. As we head into the fourth week of Trump's super quick war with Iran, Trump still seems to have no clear plan. Friday, he claimed he was thinking about quote winding down the US military effort because it was getting close to its objectives. Then by Saturday, Trump issued a 48 hour ultimatum threatening to obliterate Iran's power plants if the straight of Hormuz was not fully reopened. and he sent in an additional two 2500 Marines to the region. While he plans to give Pete Hegsath 200 billion more dollars to, as Hegsth put it, kill bad guys. Oil prices have ris risen about 50% since the war began. And the stock market has lost all of the gains made this past year. Gas prices are averaging $3.90 per gallon with some states much higher, a 35% increase from just a few weeks ago. To combat the high oil prices, Trump lifted sanctions on Iran, allowing them to sell their oil, which will generate roughly $15 billion dollars they will no doubt use to launch more attacks against US troops, which they are more than capable of doing given two long range ballistic missiles they launched at a United States and British uh base in addition to more drone and short-range missile attacks in the region. Trump posted that he has met his military goals weeks ahead of schedule and Iran wants to make a deal, but he does not. Mom, if we've met our military goals weeks ahead of schedule, as Trump claims, why are we still at war with Iran? >> I'm not sure we are weeks ahead like what he said. >> He said it, it's this is my opinion now. Now that we're in this, we're fighting, we have to take that whole country out. Take it out. >> Genocide. >> Yes. I'm ready. I'm ready for what they're doing. >> You're advocating for killing all Iranian citizens >> if we can get away with it. Yes. >> Are you okay? Where where's the outrage of the three young men that were protesters that had no trial. They had no one to help them. They took them out and hung them in the street for being protesters. I mean, in America, they're getting ready to put a woman in jail for life because she had an abortion, >> and they also are killing protesters here in America. Where where is your outrage >> for um Renee Good and Alex Prey who were executed by ICE officers? >> The United States. >> Okay. Right. >> The three other guys going against Iran. >> You haven't figured it out yet. >> Iran is the [ __ ] enemy here. You haven't seemed to get a grasp on that. Where's the outrage when that when the soccer team >> you two are stupid? You just sat there and watch Iran do atrocity after atrocity and think it's okay. We're there to kick their ass and stop. >> I don't think it's okay. I don't >> soccer team had refuge where in Australia for a while they were forced to go back to Iran because if they did not their whole families would be killed and now they're probably going to be killed going back just because they were playing a sport. >> I'm not where's our outrage over that that they can just kill those people that are protesting. If you protested like that, you would be nothing between those two [ __ ] that got killed here versus Iran. Those two [ __ ] here did something violent >> to the police officers. No, they didn't. Told them to stop the [ __ ] >> They didn't. That's a lie. But I'm confused with a [ __ ] lie. You want proof. Mom, you have empathy for some people in Iran, but you want to annihilate the entire population. So, I don't understand. I'm getting conflicting information from you. >> If we had three protesters in the street um in the United States, doing what they wanted to do, not harming anyone out there, would Trump take them and hang them? >> No. >> In public? >> No, he would not. ICE killed two people, >> hung them in the street, I guess. Shot them in the face. >> One of those goobers tried to run them over. The other one had a [ __ ] gun. >> They deserve to be put down. >> Damn glad they got killed. >> Oh god. We're going to get to that statement, too. Um, Mom, >> so you're saying you you feel Hang on. You saying you feel bad for these Iranian citizens who are protesting >> and getting killed by the government and you think the solution is to kill all the civilians. >> They're not just being killed. They're being hung with no trial. >> I get it. So your solution is to have the United States military kill everyone in that country. >> Yeah. They need to kill the people in charge over there and get it over with. >> You can you try to spin every [ __ ] thing. >> But that's that's what they're doing. And now >> people who are just like the ones that they killed or even worse are taking control of it. It's not working. They're not saying like, "Oh, thank you. Finally, you got rid of that regime. Now let's stop the war." Or maybe they even are. Trump said they want to make a deal. >> Well, let me ask you this. >> You got rid of it yet. We are in the process. >> Okay, hang on. >> So, just shut that pie hole up. >> All right, Mom. They Trump has said Iran wants to make a deal to end the war and he said he's not going to do it. So >> he might. You never know. >> He said he's not going to. >> And he also threatened to blow up their power plants. How is that helping the people of Iran? >> He blew up some of them last night. >> How does that help the people of Iran? >> Puts the [ __ ] in the dark. >> It takes It takes the bad guys out. I'm sorry. It takes out the whole [ __ ] country. >> So they won't be afraid to go out in the street and protest. They won't be afraid to voice their opinion. >> They don't have electricity. >> What? >> They're going to die. They're going to take all of the resources away from Iranian people. >> Food, water, medicine, electricity. >> You know what's happening in Gaza? What has been happening for a couple of years now? That exact same strategy is what Israel is trying to roll out in Iran. >> Damn right. Get rid of Iran. >> Okay. >> There's a man there's a man on YouTube I've been listening to. His name is Max Afterburner. He uh was a former F-16 pilot here in the United States. He said that that IR uh G, what is it? IRGC that they're lying. He said, "We're taking everything out over there. It's going to be very quick. No time at all." He can even tell you what planes have been bombed, what ships have been bombed. >> I I do believe this guy. >> Do you think it's smart of Trump to let Iran make 15 billion dollars by selling these their oil by lifting those sanctions? >> It's nothing. >> Well, we've had how many presidents, seven different presidents that said they were going to take all the nukes away from him, too, and never had never did. >> Trump is one of them. Trump said he obliterated their nuclear weapons last year. >> Okay. He's gonna do it now. >> So he lied last year about it. >> Why did he tell us presidents they tried to do it? >> It's two different things. >> Oh, >> you're confused. >> I am. >> Yeah. You are confused. >> Explain it to me. >> When they dropped the big bomb on them before and just handicapped their ability to build >> build missiles. >> That's not what he said. That's not what he said. >> Shut up. No, you shut up. He said he obliterated their nuclear program. >> Now they are getting rid of the ballistic missiles >> that they already had built. >> How do you know? >> None of this is about nuclear weapons, by the way. >> Yes, it is. >> None of it. >> That makes you >> there was there was no reason to even enter Iran for the United States to go there and do all this. There was no reason. >> Yes, it was. Now you are buying it for humanity and those protesters killed. It was about the n they were that they were getting ready to bomb. >> Has Donald Trump even mentioned these protesters? >> Yes, I have talked about them back in January. Um yes, he said he would go into the war over number one nukes and number two the exec execution of prisoners in Iran. >> Okay. The nuclear weapons is a lie. >> Nuclear weapons is a lie. He said, "I'm going with my gut and I think they're going to bomb us. >> There's no There was no [ __ ] threat. Period. >> I can find it." >> That's one of our topics, too. We're going to get to the guy who quit because there was no threat. Let's move on to our next topic. >> Yeah, that's somebody we want to listen to. >> Okay. The next topic is the shutdown. >> Loser. >> We're in the fifth >> loser. We're in the fifth week of a partial government shutdown that started February 14th after Congress failed to pass a funding bill. About 50,000 TSA workers are currently working without pay. Hundreds of them have quit. Average wait times at airports have increased to 4 hours before a flight. The funding bill is stuck because Democrats want common sense reforms on how ICE operates, warrants required to enter property, no masks, visible identification, body cameras, and limits to where raids can happen. The Republicans refuse to de to uh get full funding for ICE. Sorry, they refuse these changes and they're demanding full funding for ICE and fewer restrictions on how they operate. Trump's solution to the problem is to send ICE agents into airports, which he's threatening to do if no funding bill is passed by Monday. The only problem is ICE agents currently aren't properly trained to do their actual job. Let alone takes a lot of training. I could go to the airport today and be a TS TSA agent. >> Okay. No, Dad. I think you got to be able to stand up. The only problem is >> look through two eyeballs. That's it. >> The only problem is ICE agents currently aren't properly trained to do their actual job, let alone the job of a TSA employee. Mom, do you think having ICE agents in airports is going to make wait times shorter? >> 100% yes. I think it's necessary. I think Elon Musk is a hero. He has stepped up with his $814 billion that he now has. He's going to pay these people to continue to work. I think your father and I could be TSA people. In fact, I'm raising my hand. >> We're available. Anyone would like to hire us at the airport. All you have to do is >> go sign up. >> Walk watch the X-ray machines. Inspect baggage. >> Go sign up. >> I could handle one of the drug dogs. I could handle a bomb dog. >> Go sign up. >> Surveillance of weird people. >> Go sign up. general surveillance of weird >> do it because they're going to have the ICE agents do it, >> right? So, do you think the ICE agents are going to show up in their nonuniform, just street clothes like they wear now? Machine guns and masks. >> Hope so. >> I have no idea what they'll wear. At least someone will be >> shorten up the [ __ ] line. That's for sure. >> Nobody is going to travel. Nobody's going to want to go. It's about [ __ ] time >> cuz our government wait. >> You real You realize that like the travel industry funds like so much [ __ ] throughout the world. >> Oh yeah. >> You don't want people to travel >> throughout the world. If it isn't helping the United States, I don't give a [ __ ] about the world. >> Hang on a minute. Dad Haley said nobody's going to travel and you said good. It's about time. I don't understand that at all. >> People flying around all these weird ass countries. >> What the [ __ ] I have to fly to come visit you guys in June. >> But we're not a country. I mean, we're in the same country. >> It doesn't matter. TSA doesn't just check international flights. They check every flight. So, if the the prices get to like what if it's $5,000 for a ticket to come see you in in June? >> Well, our government the Democrats need >> I suggest you don't come. I suggest the Democrats open this uh government hold up and then we can have the regular people and everybody can fly again. >> They're not holding it up. They're asking for ICE to have warrants for arrests. Do you agree with that? >> No. >> No. >> Oh, so they can arrest you? They can come into your house and just take you. >> If they have reasonable If they have reason to believe we're doing something wrong, >> Yeah. They should arrest our [ __ ] ass right now. >> We've done We've done nothing wrong. >> None of these people have done anything wrong. >> Okay. >> You want to be You want to be sitting in a [ __ ] concentration camp? Dad would die. >> Oh, none of the none of the people they are arresting have done nothing wrong. >> Very few of the people that they're arresting have done anything wrong. >> We've been through this. It's over like 70% 70% of ICE arrests are of people who have no criminal record. >> Tell that to the mothers of the children that have been murdered by ICE agents. Tell that to the people that the illegals are driving down the wrong road with the semi. >> What the [ __ ] >> Because they don't know English, don't know which side of the road they're on. They kill people. Tell that to those families. >> Go ahead. >> I literally don't know what you're talking to. So tell it to the families of children that have been killed by ICE >> that are getting that are getting driver's license and truck licenses mainly in California >> and they can't read >> can't read English. They don't know where they're going. They're on the wrong side of the road. They crash and kill people. Tell >> us. Are you making this up? >> Oh my goodness. No. >> You guys You guys know that >> you guys know that everybody has cell phones that have maps in your language. >> Yeah. That makes sense. >> Truck driver to be looking at his [ __ ] cell phone. >> I don't have the statistics on it, but yeah, it's a big law thing that they're trying to do right now to to um not allow people driver's license, especially for semi trucks that can't speak English or read English. >> Mom, let me ask you this. Who do you think commits more violent crime in America? undocumented people or US citizens. >> Are you asking on a percentage basis or just gross? >> Gross. >> You're wrong. >> I do not know. >> I I asked a question. I'm not I didn't say anything. >> On a percentage basis, it's even worse. >> I do not know. >> Okay, let's move on. >> It's white. It's white American men. >> Well, >> that's the answer. >> Okay, we'll later. I don't think so. Yeah. the criminal. >> Let's move on to topic number three. Robert Müller. Robert Müller died this week. He devoted his life to defending and serving the country. >> First as a Marine who earned a bronze star and Purple Heart in Vietnam. Then he spent decades as a federal prosecutor at the Justice Department. >> Then he spent decades as a federal prosecutor at the Justice Department working to combat organized crime, white collar crime, and terrorism. He was the FBI director from 2001 to 2013. >> All right, I'll just shut it. >> You guys need to have a conversation real quick. >> No. >> He was the FBI director from 2001 to 2013 when he oversaw the FBI's transformation into a counterterrorism focused agency handling post 911 intelligence operations. Then in 2016, he was the special counsel in charge of investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election. He found that Russia did interfere in the election through hacking and social media operations. He found numerous contacts between the Trump campaign uh figures and Russians, but he did not establish a criminal conspiracy between Trump and Russia. Mueller did not clear Trump, but also did not charge him, partly due to the DOJ policy against indicting a sitting president. Trump frequently attacked Mueller during the investigation, saying it was a witch hunt and a hoax. Trump's reaction to his death was to tweet, "Robert Muller just died. Good. I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people. President Donald J. Trump. Mom, are you glad Müller is dead? >> No. I don't like anybody to die. >> Okay. >> But the evidence that he tried to say on President Trump never happened. It was a witch hunt. He did two full years trying to prove all these lies that included Obama. Um he Trump did nothing wrong. The attorney general at the time concluded the evidence was insufficient to charge anyone or anybody. >> It was nothing but a witch hunt. >> You remember >> why would Trump why would Trump like someone like that for two years lied about him, lied about him, lied about him? >> You remember when Charlie Kirk died and and it was all over the news that like some teachers or some [ __ ] were saying, "Good, I'm glad he's dead." And you were like, "They're the lowest of the low. They should be fired. they should go to jail. So why not Donald Trump? >> Because he he can state what he believes, >> but they can't. >> Um I don't like I guess people that that outright say that aren't Donald Trump >> that outside that out that say President Trump is at this golf course. Go shoot him now, Iran. Come on. come and get him. Now >> you're changing this topic that has nothing to do with this. >> You're deflecting. >> I am asking you, why are you cool with teachers who say, "I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead." Why are you cool with them getting fired and going to jail, but Donald Trump is openly like applauding the death of this man and you're you're okay with it? Why is there a difference? >> Didn't have a two-year probe on their asses and their families and make up lies about them. That's why. So, so let's just take this like remember this moment. This is a literal onetoone comparison. When somebody else does it, they're the worst person on the earth. When Donald Trump does it, totally justified and fine. >> Those people didn't have two years of probing on their butt. >> That's fine. That's fine. You can put whatever excuse under it you want. >> So, there's a [ __ ] difference oneonone. >> What's the difference, Dad? >> Mom just told you what the difference is. No, the difference is that they're not Donald Trump. >> They didn't have two years of probing. >> You guys are literally in a cult. I will state it every [ __ ] episode. You are in a cult. He is your leader. He is your leader. He can do no wrong. He can literally [ __ ] >> I don't care what you think. >> He can literally sit here and celebrate the [ __ ] death of a man and you will excuse it because he's your lord and your [ __ ] savior. >> I'm all for it. >> Read the line again. That's not >> best ever happened was Muller died. >> Robert Muller just died. Good. I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people. That's a celebration. >> I'm glad. That is a celebration. And you're cool with that. >> Glad to >> because you are so indoctrinated. >> Celebrating. Yahoo. >> No more probe on him. I guess >> no more stinking Mueller. >> Okay. >> He was a military hero. Robert Müller was a military hero who fought for this country that [ __ ] when he started doing when he started taking up the water bucket for the Democrats and his little uh probe. >> He put his life on the line. >> Oh, we heard for two years Russia, Russia, Russia. >> Lie. >> No, it wasn't a lie. Say, "Oh, he is the greatest man ever. I'm sorry that he has died." >> Okay, Mom. >> I'm not going to say that. Uh, in his little tweet, Trump said he can no longer hurt innocent people. What innocent people hurt did he hurt? >> He was hurt. He hurt a lot of people. >> How was Trump hurt? >> His deal his deal got all kinds of people out of trouble. >> Okay. >> That should have been in trouble. >> How was Trump hurt by it? >> Obama for one. >> How was Trump hurt by Muller's investigation >> being under the thumbnail for two and a half years? >> Uhhuh. And how was he hurt by the investigation? >> I just told you he couldn't get anything done because of Mueller's [ __ ] >> He remained the president. He is currently the president again and he has made billions of dollars off his current presidency. >> Drop it. The [ __ ] >> Drop it. Okay. Um, when Trump dies, will you be okay with Haley and I tweeting, "Good. We're glad he's dead." >> No, but you will. your opinion. >> But will you be okay with that? >> You're not going to Napoleon us to the island. You're not going to cut off communications again. >> No, we already know you hate him. >> You two are so full of shits. Your your eyes are they've turned a different color brown. >> Good one. All right. Well, we've gotten heated up. Let's do a little simmer down. I reached back. I've been going back and watching our old episodes for clips and stuff. And a very interesting process, I will say. And we did what I'm going to ask us to do. We did this back on April 1st, 2024. Sadly, it was the week before we started doing video. So, you cannot see this. You can only hear us doing this again on April 1st, 2024, almost two years ago now. Um, but that week we got into a very heated argument about Trump posting a picture of Biden being hog tied on the back of a truck and we simmerred down by singing a song together. Tina Turner's We Don't Need Another Hero. Today I'm asking us to do that again. I've provided the lyrics. They're in the document. >> No, >> Dad. Some things never change. That's exactly what you did uh on April 1st, 2024. Yeah. He refused to participate in this fun family event here. But mom, you did sing. Haley, you did sing. I did sing. Um, dad's going to stare out the window or watch his Newsmax or whatever. >> Did he really say no last time? >> He didn't say it exactly like that, but he refused to participate. Um, similarly, which is, you know, whatever. I guess what we can expect from him at this point. >> Kick it. >> All right. >> I got my words. >> I'm going to count us in. I'm going to count us in. We're just doing the chorus. I'm gonna go three, two, one, then we sing. Ready? Are you ready? Stretch the neck, Haley. Get Get yourself ready. Get in good physical shape for this. >> Oh, he's leaving. Okay. >> You're leaving? >> I'm going to knock the mic. >> Bye. Have a good [ __ ] >> Knock up the microphone, Lord. >> Okay, you ready? >> Three, two, one. We don't need another hero. >> We don't need to know the way. >> All we want is life beyond the thunder. >> All the children say, >> "We don't need another." Get on. >> We don't need to know the way home. >> All we want is the Thunder. >> Mr. Raggedy Man. >> One of my favorite songs of all time. >> A better tempo there. Our tempo and beat wasn't the best. >> No, we were we were all over the place there. I'm glad Dad refused again just as he did two years ago. What's up his ass right now? Uh, no sleep. So now he's sleeping now and whatever. >> All right. Well, we have our next topic. When's he coming back? Because I would like him to yell at us about this one as well. >> Be quick. He had to go to the bathroom. He'll be back. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to start it up then. Our next topic is Joe Kent. Joe Kent resigned from his position as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Can he hear me, Dad? Maybe. Possibly. >> Can he what? >> Hear me reading this. >> Can you hear Chad? No, he can't hear me. So >> Joe Kent resigned from his position as the director of National Counterterrorism Center this week. One of the top counterterror roles in the United States he quit in protest of Trump's war with Iran, saying quote he cannot in good conscience support the war because Iran posed no imminent threat and the war was driven by pressure from Israel which worked on Trump. Kent was a staunch supporter of Trump who ran for Congress as a proTrump Republican. He was aligned with Trump's America First movement and was appointed by Trump himself to his role as head of the National Counterterrorism Center in 2025. He supported Trump specifically because Trump ran on an anti-war platform. Kent is now under FBI investigation for possible leaks of classified information. Despite being the person who appointed Kent, Trump called him quote weak on security, soft, disloyal, and wrong on national security. >> He's a traitor and should be hung. Okay. Mom, why did Trump appoint someone he thought was weak on national security to be the head of the National Counterterrorism Center? >> I think when he did appoint him um whatever year it was, he was proTrump. He liked Trump. Trump liked him. Way back in 2024, there was something on X that um that Joe Kent put. This is what he said on 2024. October 4th happened because Biden Harris gave access to over a hundred billion. Trump used the de diplomatic and or democracy to build the Abram accords, cut off Iran funding and kill key Iranians. He supported Trump in 2024. Somewhere in between. >> So bottom line is the guy's a flipflopper. You can't trust him and he has no integrity. That's why he got his ass fired. Now >> he didn't get fired. He quit. >> Yeah, that's why he quit because he was going to get fired. >> The CIA was investigating him. >> His ass was gone no matter what. >> 72 hours after he had resigned, he went on Tucker Carlson, which we know Tucker Carlson is kind of a flip-flopper right now, too. Um, I think >> when you're you're you're talking about all these flipfloppers, I'm sure you would put Marjorie Taylor Green in that camp as well, right? >> Probably. It's it's it's a matter of like I think they still have some kind of a conscience and they don't want to go down with the sinking ship. >> Yeah. All three of them. >> Like even for these people like it's gone too far. >> All three of them. >> Even Tucker Carlson is >> it's a major it's a major defection >> under you guys are calling it like flip-flopping, but what it really is is uh they just don't support his policies 100%. They're not up his ass anymore. I think what happened, he changed his mind. >> He used to be proTrump. U no uh Joe. Okay. He used to be pro Trump. He used to like him and like his ideals. >> Then Mr. Kent got married to a second wife. I forget what year it was. >> Uh she wrote for a very leftleaning outlet called Greystone. >> Greystone. >> You're blaming >> where that outlet received money from. I ran Broadcast. It's kind of like you marry the person, you kind of believe what they do then. So, I think he flipped. >> Oh, yeah. >> I think he flipped. >> You think the person you're married to can influence your political opinions? >> I do believe they do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Same thing with this guy. >> His first wife though was um I think she was killed in Syria. I think I read. >> Okay. >> And she was also in the military and she was like one of the first females ever killed I think in Syria. >> Okay. And at that time he was everything's okay. I mean not not that his wife died that's horrific but that he was still pro- United States pro Trump >> then he married the second one and not and I do believe he was under investigation so he started squealing Tucker Carlson same thing supposedly he's got a big house getting ready to buy in Qar. >> Okay if I may. >> Yes you may. The Trump presidency, more than any other, is like pro wrestling, is like The Bachelor or reality television shows. Um, All Hail, The Bachelorette. Um, going through terrible news this week. Sorry to anybody out there who's a reality TV fan. >> I told Dan, >> I don't even watch it and I've been looking at all the news like, >> it's brutal. It is brutal. Um, and I'm very sad about it. It's one of my favorite shows of all time. All that said, on The Bachelor, what invariably happens is the the format of the show is 20 to 30 people are dating one person. That one person on the first night selects their top three. The rest of the players are then organized by producers in order of how they want to eliminate them based on rivalries and whatever. So, the lead's job is to figure out a plausible way to break up with these other people that doesn't make them look bad. I think that is happening in the Republican party right now. All of these Republicans are like, "Donald Trump is [ __ ] off his rocker. Nothing he's doing is good. It's wrecking America. We need to eject." But they are looking for that plausible way to do it without looking like they're not supporting Trump. They're or they're going against Trump specifically. They're looking for issues. So for this guy Joe Kent, he's like, "Aha, the Iran war. I can bail. Bye. I don't support this [ __ ] There was no evidence, etc., etc." And he may be correct about that. Like I believe that he says there's there's no evidence that Iran presented a threat. Why would he lie about that? >> I think he's a mole. I think uh I think he just turned >> What's a mole in your mind? >> Someone like within the government that did love our government and now they're not. So they're leaking evidence to people they shouldn't. >> Okay. And then when he knew he was under investigation on official uh letterhead from >> the government, he quit >> before he got fired. >> Okay. Dad, why do you think he would say that there's no evidence that Iran presented a threat? Why would he lie about it? >> Because he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. >> That's not an answer. But >> there were ballistic missiles getting ready to sink our ships. >> Uhhuh. That's an imminent threat. And >> just having the missiles is a threat. You think >> what? >> Just having the missiles is a threat. >> Yes. >> Then why are we not going to war with every country that has missiles? >> Or why aren't they coming? >> Because they're not aimed at us. >> Okay. >> How [ __ ] stupid are you? >> Where do you think Russia's nuclear weapons are aimed? >> Not us. He's got more aim at China than he does our country. >> Ukraine. China. >> All right, let's move on to topic number five. New Epstein files. This week, a new email was unredacted in the Epstein files that contradicts Trump's previous explanations of when he cut ties with Epstein. The 2009 email summarizes a legal call involving Trump. >> You okay? >> Yeah. >> The 2009 email summarizes a legal call involving Trump, his attorney, and Epstein's attorney. The call reveals that Trump never told Epstein to leave Mara Lago and he remained a guest at Trump's club. This directly contradicts Trump's long-standing claim that he kicked Epstein out of Mara Lago for bad behavior. The same document also includes statements attributed to Trump in which he said he may have been on Epstein's plane, may have visited Epstein's house, which contradicts his previous statements that he never flew on the plane and had limited interaction with him. Mom, now that we know Trump lied about kicking Epste out of Mara Lago, can you imagine that he might be lying about other things related to Epstein? >> No. Um, >> first of all, you haven't proven that he lied about Mara Lago. >> Epste proves that >> there were no flights. >> That's just hearay. >> There were no flights that he flew to the island. He did say there were flights going to New York and Florida. Okay. >> And that he was on >> Forget that. Forget that. He said he kicked Epstein out of Mara Lago. This email proves that's not true. >> No, it does. He kicked him out. He never went back. >> No, this email proves he was a guest at Mara Lago. Way past the time Trump said he kicked him out. >> I just thought it was he knew him in the 90s and then after he the conviction was coming, he broke ties before the arrest. >> Right. That's what Trump said. This email, this Epstein file disproves that. I will research that. I really did not know that. I I've done the research for you. It's in this document. >> Accept it. Just accept it. >> Is this any evidence that shows he's guilty of anything? >> What's lying about kicking Epstein out of Mara Lago? He never did that. >> He was [ __ ] buddies with Epstein. Why can't you just accept it >> in the '9s? >> No, Mom. This file that just got unredacted this week shows that he lied about that. >> I would like to read that. Can I read that file? >> Of course. Yes. Google read the [ __ ] file. >> Does it matter? >> I've always said if he's found guilty, it matters. >> You refuse to believe all of the evidence that has been presented to you. You refuse to believe it. It's hearsay. I didn't see it. No, I don't. >> Yes, you do. >> And if Bondie's not doing her job, they're going to call her up and then he can get rid of her, too. >> Forget why you bring Bondie into this. >> That has nothing to do with this. >> Oh, she doesn't have anything to do with Epstein files, I guess. >> Yes, she does. But not this specifically. We're We're talking about a very specific thing in a very specific Epstein file. >> Trump has claimed >> I would like to read the file, okay, before I say anymore. Is that okay? >> Of course. But I mean, that's kind of part of the the program here is that we accept the research I'm giving you. You can research it more. The reason I send it to you a day before we do this is so you can look into these things. >> Do your [ __ ] research. >> I got this late last night. >> Okay. Um, >> that's a [ __ ] lie. We don't have to take what you say as fact. >> Obviously, >> you get your [ __ ] You get your [ __ ] from the worst [ __ ] places. >> You get your [ __ ] from credible sources. I got to go back to Newsmax. I'm going to tell Nanny to kick your ass in your dreams tonight, Dad. >> Yeah. Bring it on, >> big boy. >> He's trying to find a sports thing he wants to watch at one. >> Bring it on. >> What? You're watching TV? >> I know. >> Going to in about seven minutes. >> Well, can you refrain from looking at it for seven minutes and engage with us? >> We need to hustle up. >> God, that's why my face went blank. I couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe what >> that he turned on the freaking TV when you said, "Are you okay?" >> Dad, why? Why do you just like >> face? Did you see that? >> No. >> Do it again. Do it again. >> It's more important. What's coming on? >> It's more important than having a conversation with your family. >> Yes. >> Then >> a basketball game. >> Should I I can't turn it. You'll get mad at me. I would turn it if I could. >> I'd turn it if I could. >> Okay. Whatever it is, >> all we ask is that you be present with us and engage with us for an hour a week. >> Present. I got five more minutes. >> All right, our next and final topic, Cuba. This week, Cuba's national power grid collapsed multiple times as a result of severe fuel s shortages caused by Trump imposing an oil blockade to the country. About 10 million people were affected as Trump continued his anti-Cuba rhetoric, saying publicly that he could quote, "take Cuba and do anything I want with it." Cuban President Miguel Diaz Canel has promised impregnable resistance to any attempt made by the United States to interfere with his country's sovereignty in any way. Mo, >> how's that working out for him? >> Go ahead, Chad. >> Do you support the idea of invading Cuba? >> Well, I kind of Yes, I do. Um, I feel like we're going back to the days of uh Castro and Trump's trying to clean this all up again. >> I read this article. It was on my source was CNN. Marco Rubio, a CubanAmerican is a fierce critic of the islands um and the leadership that's happening there now. That's what he said. He wanted this moment for his whole life to go in and help Cuba. So that's Marco Rubio who I love. >> Speaks for all Cubans, >> right? >> To make their country right again >> from the days of Casper. >> He damn sure does. >> Trump and Netanyahu are nothing but Hitler. >> They are. >> This was from my source that you guys always say I don't have any sources. This was from CNN. >> Yeah. Marco Rubio is not Marco Rubio is meaningless in this. Think about like, okay, right now if you're living in Cuba, half the [ __ ] country has no electricity because of what we're doing. >> I know. And then we're gonna help them. >> How is that helping? How is that helping them? >> It's the same [ __ ] that you keep saying about Iran. None of this is helping the actual people of these countries. None of it. >> It's just causing destruction and mayhem. They have no [ __ ] resources now. >> I think it's turning history is what it's doing. And that's what you guys are afraid of. Um my my friend Victor Davis Hansen, I love him to pieces. He said this could be the most geopolitical significant year ever since World War II. What's happening now? And Trump's the man that's doing it. No other presidents can do this. >> Right. I I'm not disagreeing with that. I think what he is doing is going to be in quotes the most significant geopolitical year since World War II for sure because he is rewriting all of this [ __ ] and he's going to go in and what he wants to do is turn Gaza, Iran, and now Cuba into Trump resorts. That's the whole [ __ ] ball game. Blow them up, level the place, kill everybody, and then build Trump towers on these places that he can charge super rich people to go stay in. That's the whole game. >> It's about money. >> That's why Jared Kushner is involved in all this [ __ ] He's trying to do the real estate deals on the [ __ ] bones of entire populations. You don't see anything wrong with that? >> I just think there's so much happening right now all over Russia, Iran, Cuba. Trump's trying to make it right. I think it's >> You're not listening to what I'm saying. He doesn't care about making anything right. I'm listening to it and the last thing I want is idiots like you running Cuba. >> I never said I wanted to run Cuba. >> Well, you you're acting like you want somebody like you to run. >> No, I'm I am simply saying Donald Trump his clear plan and Netanyahu is a part of this as well. I don't know what kind of financial kickbacks he's getting out of this. They are just going around and blowing up entire civilizations so that Trump can come build hotels on the dead bodies that they're piling up. That's the whole game plan. >> I don't see it like that. >> Why don't this up? Who made this up? You >> made it up. Trump posted a [ __ ] literal video of like Trump land in Gaza. He He's making it up. I'm not making up anything. >> That was That was like years ago. That's not going to happen. >> What's It is happening. They're leveling Gaza. >> They're doing the real estate deals. All this [ __ ] is happening. >> Yay. >> They're systematically like killing the entire population. >> They want them all gone and they want it leveled. >> Dad's watching TV again. >> Why can't you just not [ __ ] watch TV for an hour with us? >> I can. But why aren't you? >> I'm not watching TV. >> I just saw you looking at it. >> No, I'm looking for my game. It starts in two minutes. >> He has a dead screen up or whatever it's called. >> [ __ ] man. I I just like I don't know. >> I know. >> You've gotten a lot worse on this podcast, Dad, in terms of your your inability to engage with us in any kind of a conversation. Now it's just one word like, "FUCK YOU, STUPID CHINA." I DON'T understand why you've devolved to this point. And I I really don't get why you can't just not watch TV for the hour. >> The hour's up. >> It's not. >> We have seven minutes. >> He's being rude. >> 7 minutes. My ass. It's 12:59. >> But we started a couple of minutes late. >> Late. We always go for an hour. >> That's okay if you start late. >> And someone had to go to the bathroom. A >> but but what you're just giving excuses right now. Well, the time's almost up and I need >> I don't understand why you can't just engage with us for an hour. >> Hello. >> Chad asked you that >> what >> why can you not >> I've been on I've been on this podcast for over an hour. >> But you don't engage with us even in the time that you're not watching TV. >> I'm listening to you right now running your mouth. Do we need the therapist back? >> What happens is you spend the entire hour talking [ __ ] and reading your little scripts. >> Maybe he needs a hiatus. >> This is what I think. When I come back there in June, if airline prices are not $5,000, we should all smoke some weed together and do an episode high. >> Not going to happen. >> That will never happen. And why is that your um >> Because it'll chill dad the [ __ ] out. Correct. >> That will never happen. We would never do that. He >> You guys You guys live in a state that has granted you the ability to acquire medical marijuana whenever you [ __ ] want. And I cannot understand why you're not using it specifically in dad's case >> for him. We'll never do that, but not happening. >> Why do you >> I just He needs a hiatus. He needs to leave for a while because >> he's on like a thousand medications. All probably really bad for him. Why is is eating an edible? >> We're not talking about medications. They're saving his life, but it's okay. >> What >> weird he's on is probably making him die or whatever. No, they're saving his life. >> He's been on some medications that are like like when you get a hip replacement, hydrocodone, that [ __ ] ain't good for you. >> He's not on that. >> You were. You have been. So what is the harm in eating a [ __ ] edible? >> You tell me what I'm taking on a day. >> Why are you so >> totally unnowledgeable about any of this? >> Why are you so against eating one weed gummy? >> We are not. >> I don't need it. >> I'm not saying you need it. I'm curious if you would like it. You should try it and see if you enjoy it. >> Why wouldn't you? >> I don't think he'll do that. Why? >> We don't need it. >> I just said you don't need it. Correct. But you might enjoy it. It might be beneficial to you. Why wouldn't you try it once? >> Cuz you're not. No, we're not going to >> Why? Why? >> Because >> I'm asking you why. >> Because it's Say no to drugs. >> They're boomers. Like the whole the whole campaign, you know, when we were kids, say no to drug drugs and the >> the redbon red ribbon week. Mom was a teacher. like it's it's beat into them, you know. >> But not all boomers are like that. Look at Willie Nelson. >> Yeah, that's true. >> You guys wouldn't try it if I'm asking you to do it. If it's my birthday wish, >> no. >> No, >> it's going to be my 50th birthday that I'm going to be spending with you, Dad, taking you to doctor's appointments and [ __ ] You wouldn't do one week gummy >> for me on my 50th birthday as a birthday present. >> He's had a gummy before and it knocked him out and put him to sleep. Is that what you want to see? >> I mean, yes. No, but >> a gummy one. >> I want to see you guys eat a sativa gummy and see what [ __ ] happens. And we all sit down and we have a fun conversation. >> My medical marijuana card, by the way. Haley used it. >> Not me. >> No, I didn't. You went in and I can't use it. It's got your [ __ ] name on it. >> Right. But I had to buy the stuff you wanted. There you go. That's the truth. >> Yeah. All right. Well, dad's completely checked out. He's watching his game now. There's the the thing that's crazy to me about it is like we there there was a time before this podcast where we didn't talk to each other at all. Now we've got this system down where we can talk to each other for an hour a week and it seems like it bothers you to have to do it. >> Yeah. He needs to be gone for a while because it was not it's it's not good. It's not >> the same old thing. You read your little CNN [ __ ] >> Yeah. Then we've got to sit here and defend ourselves. But you already know what we're going to say. So what's the [ __ ] point? >> No, you don't say anything anymore, though. That that is the point that I'm trying to make right now. >> That's the point. The point is >> you just scream the word China or something or communist and that's your whole argument now. >> Yeah, it's a damn good one. >> He's going to be gone for a while. >> All right. Well, maybe he will be, maybe he won't be. Um, but we will be back. I'm going to be back tonight doing a live at 6 PM PST. I don't know. Mom, Dad, Haley, I don't know who wants to join me for that. >> I might if I'm not too tired. Haley, can you >> uh Yeah. Okay. >> All right. It'll at least be me and Haley. Maybe my mom as well. Join us for that tonight, 6 PM PST here on our YouTube channel. And we will be back next Wednesday as well with a brand new episode. Before we go, as always, Dad, despite your complete lack of respect for anybody on this podcast, I do love you and I am gonna still keep trying to get Nanny to come visit you. Has she done it yet? >> Nope. >> All right. I don't think you would admit it even if it did happen. Um, you have some weird uh chip on your shoulder about the nature of even having dreams. You claim you never have them. What's going on now? >> Looking at Jesus, >> it's nanny. He should not have been on the Sunday. >> Says nanny up there. >> Was it nanny up there? >> No. >> What were you looking at? >> See, >> mom, I love you. Thank you for sending me those pictures of Nanny. And uh you got to let me know if you get any more weird gifts from the astral plane. Haley, I love you. Thank you for joining uh every week on this podcast. And I hope you're doing better now. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. >> I love you, Chad and Haley. >> I love everybody. >> Love you, Bob. >> All right, we will see you tonight on the live and then next week. >> Speed up. >> We don't need another. I was practicing earlier and he made me stop. We don't need to hear that. Stop it.