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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches [music] toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. >> What the hell are you doing? >> I had to get my speech in order. [laughter] Welcome to the necessary conversation Halloween edition. I'm Chad Coulchin aka George Washington aka aka this was more dramatic in my mind. Antifa George Washington. Can you see my Antifa t-shirt >> underneath my George Washington >> uh costume because he was Antifa. >> Hello. >> Mhm. >> Is anyone there? >> Yeah. >> With me is my sister uh who is dressed as >> Casey Becker from Scream. >> Okay. And my mom and dad I can see dad's costume is himself which is fantastic. That is like a face of dad printed onto a black ski mask. >> Is that Donald Trump? >> This is my Donald. I love my Donald. >> Oh, wait. It's Donald Trump. I thought it was dad's face. >> This is my Donald. >> Okay, >> it does look like dad. >> Yeah. Um, and okay, so dad is Donald Trump and mom, what are you? >> Happy Halloween. I am the first naturalized citizen to serve you as your first lady. >> Hello. >> Who navy? >> What? She's not French. >> Gluten toal. >> Did you just say glutentog? >> That's the five languages that I speak. >> Okay. >> I love my donut. He's here today by the grace of God. to do amazing things for our country. >> All lefties need to start turning right. >> I love my smart baron. [laughter] We welcome the tiny children's to the White House for the Halloween celebration. We had fun. We wore costumes. >> Okay. Soon we will ho host host the white house tours as we celebrate the gold the white the beautiful trees as my husband the Donald has shared with all of us the golden age is upon us our ballroom will be done in three and one half years >> I invite the group from the necessary conversation to come and dance with us in the ballroom room. >> Next year will be America united with the patriotic touches of gold everywhere. >> I love each and every one of you and McDonald and I thank you for allowing me to be your first lady. Good day. God bless and God bless America. >> Pretty good. All right. So, you're his wife. That's the costume. Hello. >> Yes. >> Okay. Nice. Good work. All right. Well, welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm glad you got out that three and a half minute speech, Mom. [laughter] >> Um, here. This is terri. That was terrible. >> Donald's hat. >> Why does it look like bad? It literally looks like that. >> Yeah, I know. It's very weird. >> Donald. >> Yeah. All right. Well, we're all in costume per my sister's request. It is 2 days after Halloween that we are recording this, but this is our our Halloween episode nonetheless. Mom, do you have any diddies? >> That was my diddy. >> Okay, fantastic. >> Sure. >> Uh, let's move on then to our listener question. We take a question like this every week. If you want to send us a question, just record it in a one minute or shorter. >> Just record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it [laughter] Send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. That mask is so bizarre. >> Yeah, >> it looks like dad asleep. >> This is the only one in 24-hour period from the Amazon that I could get. >> Okay, >> fix your bangs. Fix your bangs. [laughter] >> Okay, this is already off to an insane start. Let's listen to this question. Here we go. >> [laughter] >> Hey, Colchin family. Uh, my name is Carly. I am a teacher out of Pennsylvania. My question today is for everyone. I want you to imagine that you are not family, that you are not related to each other. Chad and Haley, would you still want to associate with Bob and Marylu? Bob and Maryl, would you still want to associate with Chad and Haley? I look forward to your answer and I appreciate you guys showing up here every week to have these difficult conversations. Thanks. >> All right. Who would like to field this question first? >> I can. >> No. >> Um, so >> so the question is, let me just rephrase. Would we associate with one another if we were not in a family unit? Haley, >> no. In no world am I hanging out with um like 70year-old Maja? >> In no [ __ ] world. Absolutely not. No. >> Yeah. >> Dad, you've said no. >> Yep. >> Mom, >> I love my children's. I would hang out. >> I hang out. >> Okay. Please don't be Ivanka Trump for this whole episode. >> Ivanka. >> Oh, but you can be Donald anytime you want. >> Not for an entire episode. I I'm curious what your actual answer is. >> No, I don't align with you guys. I would not hang with you. >> Correct. I don't hang out with any just even in the age range. I don't have any friends that are 70 years old regardless of political affiliation. >> So, it's um the question is a little bit kind of like >> invalidated I guess just in the very nature of it. But I will say this and this is what I thought was interesting about this question. It is about like the nature of family that it forces you to associate with people you wouldn't otherwise associate with based on ideologies, preferences, whatever. And that to me is kind of one of the best things about family is that it it forces exposure to these things because otherwise you're just living in your little bubble of your chosen friends and your chosen ideologies and all this kind of [ __ ] I think that's like one of the most important pieces about family is that it hopefully teaches you how to be a little more patient with people who don't see eye to eye with you on stuff. >> Mhm. >> I I want to talk to like her, but I didn't. I hang out with a friend who is 25, >> but also Maja >> and she's MAGA all the way. >> But you guys are horse buddies, right? >> Yes. But we hang out >> other than horse buddies. So your friendships and stuff and your associations in life can transcend those age boundaries if you have one common interest or something like that, >> right? >> Yes. Good question. >> It was a good question. All right. So now >> I'm I'm I'm saving this for the I know mom, you told me dad has to leave right now. Is that accurate? >> He doesn't want to stay very long as Donald. So he want you want >> You can take the mask off if you want. You don't have to wear that mask the whole You want your mask off, Donald? >> He does. >> Yeah, that seems uncomfortable as hell. >> My wig's kind of dropping off. [laughter] >> There he is. The man underneath Donald Trump. [laughter] >> Look at my wig. My wig's going too. Okay. >> All right. Let's move on to our first topic. Uh, which is snap. >> I wanted dad to read something. You said >> that's the simmer down. If you can stay to the simmer down, fine. If not, and I should mention also, >> uh, last week we we talked about potentially having a book club. >> Mom, you and me had some text exchanges over the course of the past week to discuss facilitating that. And you told me expressly you both will not read a book. >> We don't like to read. I would listen to one. Are my eyes in the right spot? There we go. Am I better? Yeah. Um, just take it off though because it's it's we can't see you talking which is what kind of look like the Lorax podcast. Um, so you guys have refused to read a book. Why is that? >> Wait, go ahead. >> No, I don't need to read. >> How do you mean? >> I'm 70 I'm 72 years old. I've read all I'm going to read. >> You'll never read another book? >> No. >> I think I'm probably going to have a book come out next year. You won't read that one? You can tell me about it. >> Thank you. >> We'll read. Uh we will I like >> she'll read it. >> I I read some and I like to listen. I can listen. >> Okay. But dad is refusing outright. So we cannot do a book club. The whole idea of the book club is that everyone in the book [laughter] club reads a book and then you all discuss the ideas in that book. >> Yeah. It won't be me. >> He doesn't like to read. >> Oh my god. >> I don't need that. >> Shocker. >> Yeah. And do you think that this is revealing of some kind of underlying problem with MAGA? >> No. >> That was your text to me that was really >> I hated I hated reading when I was [ __ ] four. >> Yeah. I didn't read very well either when I was in second grade. I was the last one on the choo choo train. Everybody else had this choo choo train. They had so many books. I was at the very end. >> So you >> I don't know why we weren't good readers. talking about a background of bad education, refusal to educate yourselves, and even now contemporarily as your children are asking you to read a book with them. You refuse and you don't see how that aligns with it's easier to trick you. You'll believe misinformation. You don't quite understand all the facts. >> We been tricked into nothing. >> We're not refusing. [laughter] >> You are. You lefties are the ones that are being tricked >> with all of the reading that we're doing >> into into being communists. >> Okay, let's move on to our first topic. >> Fall. You're falling for it. Hook, line, and sinker. >> All right, our first topic is starving Americans. >> Go ahead. >> You with us? >> America's not starving. >> This week saw a significant consequence of the Republican controlled government shut down. People bitching about no food are twice as fat as I am. >> I don't know about that. This week saw a significant consequence of the Republican controlled government shutdown in the end of a SNAP benefit funding. Approximately 42 million Americans, roughly one in eight, depend on SNAP each month to avoid food insecurity. The USDA has a contingency fund for SNAP of about $5 billion which could fund the program for a few more weeks. Mike Johnson and the Republicans claim these funds have not been appropriated for SNAP and therefore cannot be used. But states argue that the USDA is required by law to use those funds to prevent hunger regardless of the nature of the shutdown. Nearly half of SNAP receiving households have children under 18. Mom, who do you think receives SNAP benefits? Who are these people? >> Where their income is a certain level. >> Uhhuh. and people with no job and no jobs. Some have jobs, some don't. Okay. >> But it's the income level that you have. >> 90% of the people who receive SNAP are twice as fat as I am. >> Okay. >> You've said that already. >> Yeah. It'll do them it'll do them some damn good to go two or three weeks with nothing. >> Oh my god. >> Have you ever gone two weeks without eating? >> Oh, hell yes. >> When? >> High school. all the time. >> You would go with two weeks without eating food. >> Yes. 19 pounds. >> Okay. >> For athletics, >> but not you wouldn't go two weeks without eating. You would cut weight for a wrestling tournament. Maybe 5 days before you start tapering it down. >> No, no, no, no, buddy. >> I was a 150 pound individual. Well, I had to cut it off >> of whoop ass. [laughter] >> Okay. But you're doing it by choice in the >> I had to go from 150. I had to go from 150 to 119. >> You know, we do not like people um starving. You know this. And it's sad that this has happened. >> Yeah. Dad, hang on, Mom. Hang on. Dad literally just said it will do them some good to starve. Also, you have no you give zero shits about all of the people starving in Gaza. In fact, you cheer that on. So, it's not true. >> What are those goddamn 20 pound butt cheeks? >> Do children stand to lose 20 pounds? >> Do elderly stand to lose 20 pounds? >> Hey, >> other than you, Dad. >> Half of them could. Yeah, >> mom. >> People I've seen on Snap are fat as [ __ ] Okay. >> Just seeing the propaganda that's out there that's being, you know, posted all over. But did you not get that one clip I sent you? I wanted to show >> this lady said, you know, don't do >> I'll play the clip. I'll play the clip. But I want to ask you a couple more questions first. >> I want to ask you a couple more questions first. One, >> does the government have an obligation to feed Americans? >> No. >> Yes. >> That's what the clip says. When our when you rely 100% on our government to feed you, you're >> nobody's relying 100%. You realize that most people on SNAP have [ __ ] jobs, right? It's just that doesn't keep up. You know, the minimum wage the minimum wage. >> That's a lefty misnomer. Lefty. >> The minimum wage where I live is still $725. >> $7.25. >> Yeah. Not Some of them do. Some have two jobs. Some have three jobs in their own snap. >> That's the absurdity of this [ __ ] country is that you can work a full-time job and you still need [ __ ] SNAP benefits. >> I've got the stat. I've got the stat. Nearly 60% of SNAP households have at least one working person. >> That's [ __ ] insane. >> That's over half. >> All right. >> You agree with this? >> You rely on our government 100% to feed your family, you're in trouble. >> It's not 100%. That's what you're not understanding. This is a supplemental. >> That's what you're not understanding. >> People out there who depend on the government 100 [ __ ] percent. >> Okay. So, you do not care. Dad is a >> fact in my ear. >> So, Dad, you don't care that people are starving because of this starting this weekend. >> Some of them need to. >> That's rude. I don't agree. >> Okay. Well, I do care. And if anybody's listening and you live in my area, we are collecting uh non-p perishables through November 9th for um it's an organization that reached out to me called Paso. They like do [ __ ] with dogs and animals. Anyway, bring your canned goods, bring your non-perishables to Hive Bakery through November 9th. Um we're going to take it to North Texas Food Bank. >> You know what? Just wait till Tuesday because those six Democrats better get voting the correct way. They better turn right. >> Save our government. Our government needs to get back to running. >> What they're trying to do >> Go ahead. >> What they're trying to do is turn this country into a democracy, i.e. communism. >> Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. Dad, you you're always against democracy. Yet you said you're going to vote in the next election. You understand democracy allows your vote. >> No, it's a Republican. >> Okay. >> The republic. The republic allows me to vote. Democracy is imprisoning me. >> Okay. >> You look like you're imprisoned. >> Let's just hope after Tuesday. >> Yeah, I am. Look at me. >> Democrats [clears throat and laughter] vote along with the with our Republicans and we get this government back rolling again. >> Pretty close to president. >> I have before we play your minute and a half on clip, mom, I want to ask you one more question. Do you think Donald Trump cares about people starving? >> Yes, he does. Did he look like he carried out his Halloween party? >> How about that Great Gatsby [ __ ] party that he just threw? >> Did you see pictures and images from that? >> How could a party What's that have to do with our government opening back up? That party >> The government is shut down. People are not getting paid. People are not getting food. >> The The people are not that >> six Democrats that need to vote the right effing way. >> Okay. six lefties that need to turn right. >> The lefties like this. They like that our government that this is happening to the United States because then they can blame it on Trump. >> But you don't see just the images of him at that party smiling and it's the gold gilded age. Uh there's people dressed like flappers. I mean, the whole idea of Great Gatsby was that in that era, there were these people who lived at the top of the [ __ ] world who were so much richer than everybody else, unaffected by all the kind of financial turmoil that the average person was experiencing. That's the theme of his party while literally people are having food taken off their tables by the government. >> My theme is those six Democrats better get their ass and vote the right way so our government >> gets open. >> What you're doing right now is a complete deflection of the question. You >> What is he supposed to do? What is he supposed to do? >> Not have a [ __ ] party where it looks like he doesn't give a [ __ ] about anyone but him and all of his rich friends. >> You going? >> I got >> Okay. >> And I ain't coming. >> You know what's weird? I didn't see this party. Why do I never see your stuff that you're talking about? >> Because you're watching Newsmax and they don't want to show you anything to break your idea that Donald Trump is Jesus Christ. >> Right. So, he's throwing parties. Meanwhile, AOC is delivering literal [ __ ] food in trucks. Like trucks full of food >> in New York City. >> And Schumer are the reason this government is shut down. Haley, >> two of the most ignorant people on >> I know and Schumer are the reason this government has shut down and they don't give a crap. >> Okay, >> let me play your clip now. Mom, here's this clip. This is to my not I didn't watch this. I just saw the thumbnail. This is just some random lady talking about it. But here we go. out here screaming like, "Oh my god, snap is ending and kids are going to go hungry." But the truth is, every single one of you has misguided anger. This is going to be a controversial take. So before you come into my comments and rage, just know that I was a food stamp kid and we faced some really shady times in those early years. But my mother would have sold her soul to make sure that we had food to eat. If you're in a position where the government can completely remove your ability to provide food for yourself, you're too reliant on the government. That is nobody's fault but your own. The second book of Thessalonians tells us that if you don't work, you don't eat. So, when you're out here with your bleeding heart, crying over all these kids that are potentially going to go hungry, who should you really be mad at? You can scream orange man bad all you want, but the truth is that it's the Democrat socialists that are to blame and not even the ones that are in office right now. First, they convinced you that they were coming to rescue the needy with the New Deal and the Great Society, both of which were Democrat initiatives. And Obama came in and massively overextended the program to get everybody hooked on the system. And now the government who promised to feed you is the same government who has the power to starve you. You want to be mad at somebody? Fine. Be mad at the parents who aren't willing to provide for their own children. Be mad at the people who believed the lie that total government reliance was a failsafe plan. Be mad at the Democrats for proving to you once again that socialism doesn't work. Or be glad that they gave you this modern-day example of how socialism never works. And then remember that when you go to the voting booth. >> Okay. So, I don't know why you wanted me to play this video. This is just some maniac ranting about things that are not true, >> right? >> Because she was on food stamps and and SNAP at one time. And she said, "If >> you rely 100% on your government >> to give you food, then you're in trouble because they can also take it away." And that is what is happening now. When the Democrats and the Republicans won't get together to open our government, we have a huge problem. >> I agree. But that's the government. The the Who started SNAP? FDR food stamps. >> I have no um I have no idea. I can't Google because if I look down, you'll tell me I'm not looking at things. Remember, and you'll be mad at me. Yeah, >> it's been a while back, I'm sure. >> But it was also started as a bridge to stay on it a short time, move on. There are families that have been on it for 14 years. And I saw those clips. You're not taking away my 14. >> That's not the fault of those families. That's the fault of how our system is set up where people can have a 40-hour a week job and that still doesn't pay them enough money to buy food for their family. But you also you also don't believe in systemic racism, >> right? >> You don't believe that exists. But it does. And that's also part of this problem. >> How? [snorts] How? I don't even understand that. >> I I don't I can't explain it to you. You won't understand it, and you won't believe me anyway. Just Google systemic racism. Google why people of color don't have the same opportunities as white people. Just Google that [ __ ] It exists. That's very [ __ ] real because a lot of people on Snap are underprivileged and it's not their [ __ ] fault. >> This [ __ ] that this lady is spouting in her TikTok and this is just like some lady. It's nobody like >> she was on food stamps. That's why I used it. She said she was >> Yeah, whatever. You could say you were as well. Um, the fact that, take dad for example, you guys had no money, right, growing up, like when you were new parents and [ __ ] but because he was a white [ __ ] man in this world, he was able to get a leg up eventually. He got the opportunity simply because he was a white [ __ ] man. >> He got the opportunity because we worked hard to get an education, both of us. >> He got the opportunity because he was white and a man. It doesn't negate the fact that he worked hard, but those opportunities presented themselves because he's a white [ __ ] man. >> No, because he went out and got jobs while we were in college. He had two jobs one time. While we were in college, because we needed money, Haley, >> no one gave us the handouts. We had to work to get what we got. >> And if we had to work two jobs, if we had to sell stuff, whatever we had to do, we did. >> Yeah. People are doing that now. and they still need SNAP. >> I mean, do you acknowledge that the financial structure now is way worse than it was in the mid 1970s, which is the time you're talking about? >> That's all we've done. I think we have given given given given. Everybody's used to it. They want it. They would rather stay at home >> than have to get out and get a job. And like even if it's level income taxes the state even if they would have to pay child care with their job that didn't pay much instead of going out there and getting the job and feeling good about themselves they would rather stay at home check that comes in. You live in like your own world. Like in the state of Texas alone, just our government in Texas, the [ __ ] minimum wage, I don't even know how many years it's been since it has been raised, but it's still $7.25 a [ __ ] hour. If you do that math, literally no one can [ __ ] live on that. So, let's say that you didn't get a college education because you couldn't [ __ ] afford it. So, now you have to work at like McDonald's full-time. You're never making enough money to pay your [ __ ] bills, buy your [ __ ] food, and take care of your kids. That's not their fault. If you're working a full-time job, you should be able to afford [ __ ] necessities, okay? You should be able to have a house and eat food and a [ __ ] car and take care of your family. And back when you guys were young, you could have one job, buy a [ __ ] house, buy a [ __ ] car, and do all that. >> We never had a home till later in our lives, Haley. We worked all kinds of jobs our whole life, even after college. >> Were you homeless? You were homeless? >> No, but we lived with our parents at one time when we had no money. >> Fine. >> So, I guess that's homeless. Yeah. I never had new clothes, Haley. I had used clothes high school and college. I had used clothes. >> That's You're missing the point, Mom. You're missing the entire point. You are. You're focusing the blame for the current financial disaster that this country is in on the people at the bottom of the heap. The blame goes to the top. It's because we have these CEOs of these giant like if you work in an Amazon factory. You're not making enough money to pay for your rent, your food, for your life. Basically, [snorts] >> I I read a big article about this for Walmart. People who work in Walmart are almost all on SNAP. Walmart is also the company in this country that makes the most money from SNAP. So they people come in there, they can use their SNAP benefits to buy food, to buy whatever in Walmart, right? How that works is they turn in their voucher, Walmart then turns that into the US government and the government pays them money. It gets exchanged into actual money. Walmart then pays their employees such a low wage that those employees are also on SNAP. So they're getting paid double from it basically. Meanwhile, the CEO of Walmart is making billions of dollars a year unnecessarily. All CEOs at this point, I'm sure you've seen articles about this, how it used to be like back in the 70s, the disparity between a CEO and the kind of like lowest level worker in a company would be like maybe 50 times. Maybe the CEO makes 50 times their wages. Now, it's thousands of times. that exponential growth of how much money is getting sucked to the top is why the people at the bottom need these benefits. >> It's I just read an I >> I think the welfare system, I guess you call it the welfare, the SNAP, the housing, all that needs a huge um redo. It's it's not working, especially >> the reason it's not working is because the people at the top of the pyramid are not getting taxed. The big beautiful bill gave huge tax breaks to the people at the top so they make even more money. Where does that money get made up? Because we need the money to run the [ __ ] government. It gets made up when you erase SNAP, when you erase Medicare. They take away these benefits from people that really need them to give that money to people who are already super rich. That is what is happening. >> That Great Gatsby party >> is is literally what's happening. He just put the most powerful, most rich people in the whole [ __ ] nation in that [ __ ] room while everybody else is starving. >> Got to get some. Where was that at? >> It beautifully illustrates our [ __ ] United States. >> It was at uh Palm Beach, I think, one of his his things. Where are you going, Mom? >> I had to grab my glasses because the computer was telling me to do something and I said no and I didn't want to shut the show off. >> Um >> I got to say no thanks. Whatever that is. There we go. >> Was it at Mara Lago? Great Gatsby. This is Trump has come under fire after he hosted a Great Gatsby themed Halloween party just hours before millions of Americans lost their SNAP benefits. Yeah, it was at Mara Lago and there's all these pictures of him like smiling and people dancing in their flapper outfits and [ __ ] Um, it's just disgusting. It's People online are calling it Hunger Games. >> It is. It's repulsive. >> Let's move on. Yeah, move on. I didn't see it. >> I didn't see it. You're Mike Johnson us. I didn't see that. It's not my lane. >> No, I I mean I guess it happened, but why am I not seeing this stuff? I don't watch Newsmax. >> Okay, let me say something real quick. >> Yeah. >> Um or I'll do it at this simmer down, I guess. Go ahead. >> Okay. Uh topic number two. More than the National Guard. This week, Trump was aboard the USS George Washington in Japan addressing the troops when he said, quote, "We have cities that are troubled, and we're sending in our National Guard, and if we need more than the National Guard, we'll send more than the National Guard because we're going to have safe cities." Trump has threatened Americans with the use of military force against them from the beginning of the [clears throat] year. Mom, are you getting desensitized to seeing military soldiers in our streets? I have not seen any in my streets yet. >> But you've seen the images on television. >> Yes. >> Okay. And do you think that's normal? >> No. Something's got to give. I mean, uh, something's got to give. >> What does that mean? Something's got to give. >> ICE is is I don't like what ICE is doing. I know that's one of our topics. And then Trump wants to call in reserves again, right? >> Yeah. to help with um >> but he's saying here he was addressing actual military troops and said we will send in more than the National Guard if we need to send meaning we'll send in Marines army whatever we'll send an actual military job is not to police US citizens it is to defend us >> abroad >> right and ICE is to do the illegals and get the illegals out and I don't know something's something this is not going well. It's not >> it hasn't desensitized me like it had the adverse effect like I now see if I see groups of police officers in public I'm more inclined to what the [ __ ] going on? Do I need to step in? Do I need to help somebody? So I I complete opposite for me like I >> I would run I would go the other way. >> You can't like >> Yes, I can. No, like now is the time where you have to [ __ ] do something. You have to act on these things because it will be too late at some point and then we are truly all [ __ ] >> where you have to be more aware of where you're at, where you're going, what you see. >> If I saw 10 policemen over there with two people, I would not go to say, "Can I help?" >> Okay. Well, I absolutely would phone on asking questions. Let me see your badge. >> I would not. I would be afraid to do that unless I was packing. >> But you can't be afraid. Like that's what they want. >> Okay. >> Uh Mom, when you look at other countries who use their military against their own citizens, what do you think of those countries? >> That their government is out of control. >> Okay. And so it's happening here now. Do you believe Trump is out of control? >> No. >> He's the one doing this thing that you're saying is out of control. He's trying to make our America safer for all of us. >> Listen to what you just said. In every other country where this happens, you said things are out of control. >> But here, that's not the case. >> In the streets, what's happening in the streets? >> There is nothing happening in the streets until ICE and the military gets involved. Nothing's happening in the [ __ ] streets. It's all [ __ ] >> I That's >> It just came out. They've had 170 American citizens in ICE custody. The [ __ ] >> I this these are two things that I'll I'll bring to your attention with the things being out of control. One, there was a clip that I saw this week. I don't have it here, but Newsmax, your beloved, showed a video, a short video of this woman in a grocery store yelling about her SNAP benefits and being belligerent. Then they did a whole commentary on it. The news anchor who showed that clip was like, "This woman needs to be drugged out of here." No, no, no, no. >> That clip was AI. It was complete fiction. They aired it as real and then commented on it. >> So even the the narrative of these people on Snap are belligerent and they don't deserve it. And no, no, no. The thing they're using to back that up is not real. It's completely fake >> on your favorite news network. >> Well, >> okay. >> Okay. But what about what [clears throat] about >> what about what about Joe Biden say what about so what do we believe we're back to what do we believe >> what is really happening which is the only violence in the street >> seeing this yourself or are you just going on the channels that you view as >> I'm going on all these channels I saw that thing on Newsmax I'm watching it all but you have to understand whoever controls the notion of what's going on the idea of it on the internet on cable news whoever controls that controls the reality. Trump is trying to do that right now by saying Portland's on fire. Chicago's burning to the ground. >> Then I I read a huge article about this. Fox News and Trump, they're tweeting these things, too. They're using pictures from like 10 years ago, from other things, from the George Floyd protests. They're using that [ __ ] to say this is happening now in Portland, and it's not. They are lying. And they've been caught in this lie multiple times. Nothing is happening in these cities above and beyond, you know, the kind of normal crime rates and stuff. Nothing is being burned down. The protests have all been completely peaceful. I know you said five people were arrested during the no kings thing, but there was no property damage. No one was hurt. And even the people who arrested, I looked that up. Some of them are MAGA that were there to start [ __ ] There was a MAGA woman driving down the street waving a [ __ ] gun out the window at protesters. She was one of the arrests. >> Okay. Was this real? a picture of all these teachers in Charlie Kirk's shirt with the blood with the bullet hole and one and one of them had the knack and the bullet and Arizona they were teachers. Was that real? >> That was real. >> And then the district >> the district said that that was for um the math thing that they were doing. >> I don't I don't care what anybody's saying. Even if that woman was saying Charlie Kirk got killed, haha, and making fun of it, that's legal. You can do that. >> Yeah. It's evil. It's evil. That's what it is. >> You're You're missing again the main point. You're trying You're retreating further and further into the the kind of granular minutia of, well, this person was a piece of [ __ ] 7 million people came out to protest Donald Trump. None of them were violent. It was all peaceful. >> But 42 million voted for him. So, >> okay. And Donald Trump is saying that these cities are burning down. That's why I need to send in, in quotes, more than the National Guard. He's trying to get everyone to a place where he can have fully militarized cities so he can control the elections. That's what this whole thing is about. >> I totally believe all the clips that I do see are not real, but some of them are. So, >> okay. >> Where do we go? >> What do you mean where do we go? >> Where do we go from there? What clip do you believe? Which one do you believe or not? >> The ones that are not AI, >> which it's getting too good though because even that Newsmax guy who is like whatever, say what you will about Newsmax. These are people going on the air. I'm sure that guy was tricked. I'm sure that guy didn't want wasn't like this is AI but we'll pretend it's not. I think that guy and everybody who made that news piece literally was tricked. And you can chalk that up to stupidity. You can chalk it up to bad journalism, but whatever. they were tricked. Uh, so we are kind of through the looking glass at that point. And I think there's going to be videos coming out that are impossible for anyone to distinguish real from not. And once Trump has his control over that type of [ __ ] it's I don't know. I don't know what we do. I don't know where we go either. Let's talk about our next topic. Kirk and Vance. This week, rumors started flying on the internet about JD Vance and Erica Kirk possibly having an affair after Kirk introduced him at a Turning Point USA event by comparing him to her late husband, Charlie Kirk. The rumors were further fueled by the nature of their onstage hug. People are speculating that Vance will divorce his current wife and marry Erica Kirk in the next few years to make himself a more viable presidential candidate in 2028. I have this clip that I'm going to play for you now. >> [snorts] >> I am tremendously blessed and honored tonight to be able to introduce to you a very very dear friend and his wife. They are incredible. And I see no one will ever replace my husband. No. But I do see some similarities of my husband in JD >> and Vice President JD Vance. I do. And that's why I am so blessed to be able to introduce him tonight because he understands the fight that we're up against and he can articulate that >> in a way that transcends race, >> bruh, >> that transcends [laughter] grounds. You had to slow this way down. >> No. >> So, please help me welcome to the stage Vice President JD Vance. [screaming] >> All right, there you go. Now, you saw how she introduced him. There are also pictures, I don't have them here, of JD Vance's wife kind of not looking happy about all of this there in the audience. Mm- >> Um, mom, do you think they're having an affair or do you think there at least is a plan in place for them to be married? >> No. Yes. >> Interesting. Why not? >> You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. >> You watch that video. She put in his hair. >> I'm sorry. If somebody did that to dad in front of you, is that your story? Is that your story? You're making a mountain out of a >> She gave him like the claws in the back of the head and his hands were like low on her waist and [ __ ] That's not like a It's a handshake is what it should have been. >> She is mourning her husband. That's for sure. People do weird things. Maybe. >> I'm sorry. No one can replace my husband. But >> I'm trying to get a lot like him. >> The hand up on the back of the head. I would never do that to any of dad's friends that I'm very close to. Correct. >> I'm very close to his friend. >> Dad has friends now. >> That's mean. >> I would never do that to a friend of his and put my hand up like that on the head. But maybe she's a hugger. Maybe she does that. >> No. No. >> Maybe y'all are making too much out of it. But I didn't like it. No, I didn't like it. No, it's a little creepy. Uh, and she had on real tight leather pants and >> Yeah, the leather pants. But that this is where I wanted to go with this. I I love uh like 2020 and what are those other, you know, who did the murder thing and all that. I I watch all those shows all the time. Try to figure it out before the end of the movie. Something stinks about Charlie Kirk's murder big time. >> Okay. >> Um a lot of those clips I'm watching, they're really bugging me. The microphone that exploded. That's one theory. Another theory is that they took him underground, put him on a plane, he's still alive. Um, another theory is Israel was involved. I don't know. It's getting real creepy. And >> so, are you saying you don't think that that guy was the shooter and that maybe they've been putting all of this like transgender [ __ ] out in the news just to rattle you up and that it's not real? >> Yes, that's what I'm thinking. I don't think the kid shot him. I really don't. >> I don't either. Um, >> I I think the microphone exploded and we all >> That is what it looks like to me as well. >> Uhhuh. We all know what country likes the >> As much as I hate Candace Owens, >> she's gone on a deep dive of this [ __ ] and it's like, whoa, >> she's making some sense. >> It's quite compelling. And I [ __ ] hate Candace Owens, but it's like >> I feel the exact same way. I feel the exact same way. It's And here's the problem. Here's the problem with the whole [ __ ] right like being like, "Fuck it. We're going to be the party of conspiracy theories. >> Yeah. >> If you want to try and do a conspiracy, you're [ __ ] Your whole fan base is going to turn against you cuz they that's what they live for >> is like getting to the bottom of these crazy conspiracies. I agree with you. >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? What do I mean? >> What do you mean? That's the fan base. I don't understand that. >> Qanon, the whole Do you remember when QAnon was like in full swing and there like every tweet had a secret message in it and this and that and whatever. the Republican party is the one that like gloms on to these conspiracy theories more than the Democrats. And now if I mean conspiracies, let me just put this out there. Everybody hears the the phrase conspiracy theory and they think that means it's false. >> That just means it's a theory about a conspiracy. Conspiracies are very real. That's why we have like RICO cases. A criminal conspiracy just means there is a group of people doing a clandestine criminal operation and they're all going to keep it secret. That's a conspiracy. >> So, do those things happen? For [ __ ] sure. JFK, however that happened. We still don't really know who killed him. Obviously, CIA, whatever. But, um, with this Charlie Kirk thing, there are so many things. I've watched so many videos of like, I was a Army Ranger sniper for 15 years. This is the gun they say he used. Watch how long it takes me to break it down. It doesn't fit in the backpack. Blah blah blah. You know, all this [ __ ] Um, there's that. There's the fact that they bulldozed the crime scene 48 hours later and poured [ __ ] >> it over. >> Where the [ __ ] is the suspect? Where the [ __ ] is the suspect's supposed lover? Where the [ __ ] are these people? >> They've not been in the news. Where? Also, where's the guy that shot Donald Trump's ear? Where the [ __ ] is that guy? >> Right. Within just the >> He did not get shot. Trump did not get shot. >> In the last three days, I've been watching more, you know, I watch Instagram, Tik Tok. Um, and there's like they have slowed that u they've slowed it down and it's creepy. They're showing a guy that's saying five, four, three, two. They're showing a guy that says boom. They're showing a guy that did this. They're showing a guy that took the microphone off and stuck it in his pocket and went behind. I'm going, "Oh my goodness." Yeah, >> but then they also showed how the ring went from one finger to another. Now that's AI stuff. That's not right. >> They're saying he was a hologram or something there and then he really wasn't there. >> That I don't know. But the just the fact that there are all of these things and like very rarely on this podcast do we agree with one another. We are both saying something is not right here. And I think most people feel that. And so then you have to look at if if this truly is a conspiracy. That kid didn't kill him. Who wanted him dead? A lot of people were pointing at Israel because he was very at at this point anyway becoming very vocal against Israel and the genocide. He was accepting it was a genocide, >> right? >> Um that could be a part of it. I don't know. We just don't know. >> One of them had a link too to JD Vance somehow. >> Um yeah. >> And guess who is never going to investigate it? >> Mhm. Trump and his DOJ. >> Wow. We'll see. >> We will. >> Something's got to give. Some's got to give on that. >> All right. >> But anyway, JD Vance is going to divorce his wife. He said publicly like >> it would be great if she would just become a Christian, >> right? >> I'm sorry. >> That's the basis. That's the basis for the divorce. >> Children. And when he refers to their children, if you've ever watched videos, he calls them her children. Have you seen the the picture? It's a still shot where um his wife is hugging Erica Kirk. It was like as they came down the steps u from the airplane like right after he had been shot. And the sadness in her eyes as she was hugging Erica Kirk though is real. Like she came in and helped her out. So I don't think Erica Kirk would do that back then. Christian. >> No, I don't think that'll happen. Put that down. >> And witches. >> Put that down. That Haley said that's going to happen. And it will never happen. >> They're getting divorced. He's going to get together with Erica Kirk. It's already been predetermined. >> No. >> Yeah. >> Not happening. >> Erica Kirk just gives me the [ __ ] whenever she talks. Like >> I don't know. There's something something about her. She creeps me out. Oh, she's like a Steepford wife. It's all fake. Everything she does is fake. It's for the money. It's for the Graham. All right, Mom. >> Let's move on to our simmer down. Last week on our Simmer down, we had a >> controversial conversation about you and dad hitting us with belts and yelling at us when we were kids. >> No, you called it beating. We never I wanted to get this straight. We never beat you. We spanked you. >> Okay. >> I tried to spank you once. Y'all ran from me, hid under the bed. I couldn't get under it. So that was my spanking. >> You were hunting us? >> Trying. Yes. >> Okay. >> I do remember the last time your dad gave you a spanking. >> It You guys were in high school. >> Okay. >> Um Haley hit you Chad in the face and had print marks on your face over the TV clicker. >> I don't remember that specifically. >> That was your last I think. I I remember. So, by the way, you weren't on the baseball field ever when we were practicing. So, >> I don't think you have a full picture. >> On the baseball field. >> Come on. >> Let me I'm going to send you something. I was going to have dad read this, but I don't He [ __ ] bailed. So, I'm going to have you read it instead. I'm emailing it to you right now. >> Sent. >> Are you setting me up for something here? >> What do you mean? No. >> Are you setting me up? >> Did you get it? You emailed it or you texted it? >> I emailed it. >> I got nothing. >> I got nothing. >> Your emails go to my trash sometimes. I don't know why. >> Cool. [laughter] >> Can you Can you uh text it to me? I didn't get it. >> Let's see. Let me try. >> I usually get your text messages. Okay. There it is. There it is. I just got it. >> You got it. Okay. [snorts] >> Read it out loud. Last week we had a conversation in our simmer down about getting hit with a belt when we were kids. You guys denied it happened. I thought a lot about it and I just want to say something to you mom and dad. I think you both loved us very much and when we were kids and you were doing what you thought was best, but you guys didn't have the best examples of parenting when we were kids. I think >> when you were kids. >> Oh, when we were kids. >> You have to read what is written there. But but you guys didn't have the best examples of parenting when you were kids. I think you'd both admit that. So, how could you possibly know how to be a good parent? On top of that, you were insanely young when you had us both, 20, 21, and you did all of this on your own. You had a lot stacked against you. And not to toot my own horn, but I still think you still did a great job. Look at me and Haley. how we turned out. She's a business owner who has her own store covered by international news outlets and she's a mom who would do anything for her kids just like you both did. And she had her kids really young, too. She followed your example of how to make a family and hers is incredible because of it. You both did a lot of really good things as parents, and I want you to know that. But I also think you made some mistakes because you didn't know any better. And that's okay. All parents do. I love you. And I thank you both for all of the amazing moments you gave us growing up that have made us who we are today. >> Hello. How do you feel? >> I feel good. I feel like that was nice. >> Okay. >> I don't feel like we made any mistakes though. I really really Don't. Oh my god. >> You think you were perfect parents? >> No. No one's perfect. >> Okay. So then you did make >> every breath that I took, I did the very best I could. >> That's what my letter said. I acknowledge that. And I'm saying your parents, you and dad's both were not good examples of parents. >> No. Like dad got the living [ __ ] beat out of him. >> No. Your dad didn't get the [ __ ] beat out of him. He got spankings. >> I never got a spanking in my life. >> Right. >> Your father, >> you gosh. >> You grew up in the home of alcoholics. >> My parents were both alcoholics. Yes. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> And neglectful in >> Okay. Growing up with alcoholic, two of them, >> wasn't easy. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Dad's life was stacked against him the moment he was born. >> And we know this. >> I I'm I'm acknowledging all of that. And I'm saying, of course, you guys were going to have a difficult time being parents because those were the examples you had and you had kids when you were 20 years [ __ ] old. It's okay that you made some mistakes. It's okay to admit that you did. I'm telling you it's okay. I'm the product of the mistakes. I'm telling you it's fine. >> You're both very good kids. Outstanding. >> I mean, I think that's more proud. >> What we want to hear is that is for you and dad to say like, "We know you loved us." Like, we know that. But I would love to hear you say, "I wish we wouldn't have hit you with a belt." like, "Yeah, maybe we did make some mistakes and and verbal abuse wasn't like the kindest thing to do." I think just hearing that is really all that like the acknowledgment. >> Well, I never hit you with a belt. I did spank you. And your father, I feel, did not beat you. He spanked you. >> I'm sorry if that caused you turmoil and mental mental distress during your life. >> No, it it has to be close. We're getting we're inching her there. >> Something that you legitimately feel and want to express. >> Yeah, you're Erica Kirking us a little here. [laughter] >> It's It's maybe >> if you're not if you're not sorry for it, then you're not sorry for it. And that's fine. I never beat you. Your father never beat you. We gave you spankings. >> Okay, fine. We'll leave it at that. I just wanted you to know those things. That's why I wrote that down. I thought a lot about our simmer down from last week. And I just want you to know that I appreciate all the good things. I acknowledge at least on my part as the recipient of some of the bad things that they happened and you guys were doing the best you could. That's all. >> I'm sorry you feel it was bad that we gave you a bad bad time. >> See, that's not how you >> That's literally not what that letter said. >> I I only of every second of breath that I had in me. You're personalizing this and you're taking this to personalize it by saying it's okay. Listen to me. >> I'm listening. >> Go back and read the last line of that letter. It says, "I love you and I thank you for all the good memories." >> And then you hear one thing like, "Oh, he he says it. We hit him. [ __ ] this guy. We gave him the best childhood." No, no, no. Both are true. You did some [ __ ] that was not that fun as a kid. Okay. You also did some great things that have made us who we are. And like I said, Haley has even modeled her how she built her family after how you and dad did it, which is an incredibly difficult way to do it. And it has worked out great for her >> by having kids so young. >> Have you ever spanked your children? >> Uh yeah, one time. >> Has your I didn't >> Has your husband ever spanked your children? Like I said, one time and then it came to an argument and I said that's never going to happen again. Like the example was me getting beat as a child. So in my mind as a 20some, like that's how you discipline a child. But the minute that I saw it, my brain went, "Fuck that." Like this is my kid, you know? I'm here to protect them. There are other ways to do this. So from that moment moving forward, never [ __ ] again because ultimately a spanking is a beating. You are hitting a person. You're hitting a child. >> I totally disagree. A spanking is not a beating. >> I'm sorry. You're raising your hand and you're hitting someone. That's >> abuse is not a beating. >> No, that is abuse. And so I recognized that instantaneously as I'm looking at my baby essentially like my child >> that is abuse and I said never again. >> Spanking is not a beating. >> It is abuse. It is physical abuse. Do you hit your animals? >> Did you ever hit your dogs when they did something bad? I tapped him on the butt and told him no. >> You spanked your dog. >> I rolled him over in my lap [laughter] and said, "I'm in charge of you and you better listen." >> Okay, listen. [laughter] >> I have one more topic. We're talking about spanking dogs now. I have one more topic to get to in the final few minutes we have here, and it's about ICE brutality. A video of a brutal IC assault went viral this week. In the video, we see a mother in Virginia being violently thrown to the ground after she failed to recite her social security number during an immigration stop. Before the violent arrest, she did show her agents her work permit, social security card, driver's license, and car registration, but they arrested her anyway. I'm going to play this video for you now. Here we go. >> [screaming] >> NO. [laughter] [crying and screaming] >> OKAY. MOM, do you think throwing that mother to the ground in front of her 16-year-old daughter is making America safer? >> No. Who was doing the screaming? I didn't. >> Her 16-year-old daughter, >> her child. Imagine that happening to me and Harper is in the car with me. >> Yeah. Not good. I've already >> It's [ __ ] disgusting. >> Ice is is getting too crazy. >> And so that's why I say if you see that [ __ ] you [ __ ] step in. You don't allow them to do this to people. >> You cannot step in. Why? >> Yes, you can. >> No. No. >> [ __ ] throw me down too then. And then maybe someone else will come. >> You cannot allow them to do this. That is the point. >> Mom, >> you just say no. >> Your kind of whole attitude about this is like, yep, ICE is getting crazy. Do you know why this is happening? Who is sending the order to do this? >> They're trying to find illegals and get them out of our country. >> No, they're not. I just showed you that video. I can show you 10 more videos like this. They are not doing that. They are arresting anyone and and detaining them in that manner who is not white. That is literally what's happening now. >> They get paid by like meeting quotas at this point. Like they probably offer these [ __ ] bonuses if you hit a hundred in a month. They don't give a [ __ ] who you are. >> And then where do these people go? >> They go to for-profit prisons who get money from the government based on what capacity they have. I've got to see more more. >> You need to see more than that. >> I I've shown you so many videos like this already in our Wednesday episode. We did one on ice raids a couple of weeks ago. I showed you a bunch of videos just like this. More of these videos come out every week. This is And Donald Trump is saying do this. >> Yeah, that is why this is happening. >> That's not good. But that >> Yeah, >> you're disagreeing with it, right? >> Yeah. I don't like that. Why would I like that? >> Dad does. >> Well, he's not here. >> So, the root of what I'm getting to is this is happening in America on a daily basis. These are armed masked men kidnapping people in front of their children for no legal reason. She showed them all the necessary papers, >> but couldn't recite her social her social security number to them, so they threw her on the ground. No, that happened. That's not an opinion. All of that happened. your opinion. Your opinion that it's happening every day in all these cities. Why have I not seen it here in my city? >> Because you're watching news, Max. >> But I haven't seen it in the streets. I haven't seen it in my city. What streets are you going into? >> Yeah, you live in suburbia. >> Until I visually see it, maybe I'm not going to believe it all. >> I saw it. >> I know, but that was on Tik Tok, too. >> What? >> Yeah. >> AI real? Not. But I do believe it's happening. I do believe it is happening. I do believe it is. And it's not good. >> So you believe it's happening and you disagree with it. And the guy you voted for for president is the one who has generated all of this. >> It's better. >> You keep saying it's got to get better. I want you to acknowledge Trump is doing this. >> Yes, he is. >> Okay. And you disagree with it. This is one of his biggest most fundamental pieces of this administration. >> No, his biggest most fundamental was um stopping the border. >> Okay. So, that's done, right? >> Right. >> But now, why is he arresting mothers taking their daughters to school? >> I have I don't like it. I don't know. >> Okay. So, what I'm getting you to or hopefully getting you to admit here is he secured the border. You wanted that to happen. That has happened. Now he has this extremely bloated tier of crazy maniacs in ICE. They are the the highest funded government agency currently in America and more money is getting poured into it daily. You've got Christy Gnome getting $173 million jets to fly around in all this [ __ ] That's money coming out of the ICE budget. And he is pumping more money into it to create a police state so that we are now scared of these masked guys who don't tell you who they are, don't show you their badges, don't show you their faces, can walk up to anybody and throw them on the ground like that video I just showed you, and all you can do is record it on your cell phone and scream. That's the country we're living in now. And he wants that. It's by design so that he can threaten all of us into being subordinate. Do you see that happening? >> Opinion. Yeah, that's your opinion and all of that. I have already stated I don't like what's happening. I don't like that. But I truly believe he is making uh America as good as he can make it. >> Would you turn on him if it was me? >> What if >> that video was me? >> It'd be terrible. >> Would you turn on Trump then? >> Yes. So, it would literally take me or Chad being thrown down. >> Yes. And don't stage it and don't AI it. Okay. >> I ain't going down. [laughter] If And look, this is something that is happening now. I read a big article about this. It might be a topic here in the next few weeks as mainstream media kind of catches up to it and it gets more in the zeitgeist. But ICE just invested a fuckload of money into digital surveillance of social media. So, they are now going to be able to just like type in who said on Instagram Trump is an idiot >> and then they can go to your front door. So, uh Haley and I definitely will be targets in that I think. >> So, get ready. Get ready. >> Get your guns up >> for real. >> Then we then we stop the podcast. >> Hey, we just bought two new guns. That's all I'm saying. >> Oh, nice. >> Do you have a safety on them or not? >> Nope. >> Okay. No safety. Do they make guns without safeties? >> Yes, they do. >> Um, all right. Well, thank you for joining us. I'm sad dad wasn't here. I really wanted him to read that letter because I wanted to see if he would have any emotional reaction to it. >> Dad can't read. >> That would have taken him two days to read probably. >> That's fine. We would have sat through it. >> I'll show it to him. >> Well, I mean, it's pointless. >> We have the Wait, we have the same hair. This is what I'm gonna look I'm gonna look like with white hair. I just realized that. >> Nice. >> I thought you'd be Strawberry Shortcake and I thought Chad would be awolf and look what we got. Antifa George Washington and what are you again? I don't even know. >> Casey Becker from Scream. >> Okay. >> Drew Barrymore who gets caught in the her head gets caught in the garage door opener. Remember? >> No. No. What? No. Who's Casey Becker then? >> Drew Barrymore. She's in the very beginning of the film. She gets stabbed in the [ __ ] heart and then he hangs her from a tree. >> Oh, who's the one who gets caught in the garage door? >> Rose McGawan. >> Sorry, I messed him up. >> Anyways, thank you for joining us everyone. Mom, I do love you and I really hope that little letter that I wrote you, you were not offended by it. It was meant to be complimentary but also acknowledging reality. Hello. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for my letter. >> And Haley, I love you as well. Thank you for doing this podcast and uh meandering through all of this [ __ ] on a weekly basis. >> I love you both. >> Mom, I love you, Chad. I love you. Tell Dad I love him. I will. >> Okay. Bye. >> Bye.