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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colchin. With me is my sister Haley Poe back from her trip abroad and my parents Bob and Mary Lou. Both deep in the What's on your hat, Mom? Oh, it's a Trump hat. Damn. This This is the one that you sent, Dad. But I have confiscated it. Okay, nice. Um, it's weird that you never wear the two hive hats that I sent you. I do have those, too. I can never wear them. Fired. I wear them some days when I go to the barn. So, don't tell me I don't. All right, we are going to dive into the six hopefully biggest political issues of this week. But before we do that, my mom likes to start this show with what she calls diddies. These are small bits of business, small pieces of information that have come through the internet to her over the past week. Mom, do you have any for us this week? Of course I do. Oops, I just dropped one. I'll get in a minute. Number one, with the Fourth of July weekend coming up next weekend, I'm shouting out a little early to a very true patriot of mine, Pammy. She goes above and beyond duties for her family. Uh she's baking right now, preparing meals, doing the whole family thing so that everyone can celebrate together this coming weekend. Her family even has a firecracker stand in, I'll just say in Kansas. Uh, she watches five grandkids. She cooks. She goes to church. She prays. She loves Trump. She is my patriot of the week. I salute you, Pammy. And so does Bob. This is a new thing. This patriot of the week. You started this last week with little Mike. You're going to do this week. Patriot of the week. Yeah. Do whatever you like. Then do it. Yeah. I hope you like it. You could also do your pick of the week. Whatever you would call it on your side. What would it be? It could be Patriot. your Patriot Liberal of the Week or We're just Patriot. Okay, number two. This is quite funny, but you probably will think I'm shaming her or something. I'm not. I think it's funny. Funny. So, Beyonce had her big concert in Houston. I think it was last night. She got stuck in the red Cadillac. The red Cadillac was floating down with her in it as she was singing one of the most important songs on her album. The Cadillac gets stuck and it starts tilting sideways. I mean, she's way up there and I think they said she was saying, "Get me down. Get me down. Get me down." Very scary. She ain't no cowgirl. I like Laney Wilson, of course. But anyway, so they did get her down, but it she had to apologize to the fans because it took a while. But I bet whoever was in charge of that Cadillac, I bet their asses are is gone. You do know that Beyonce is from Houston. Like she's actually a Texan. Yeah, but she's not a cowgirl. What do you mean? She's no way. She's no way a cowgirl. I don't understand. Doing her album like saying she's a cowgirl riding horses and all that. She's not a cowgirl. I know real cowg girls. How is it like Jules who works at the at the feed yard who Okay. Oh god. We're We're now debating on if Beyonce is a real cow. She's not. That's the hard-hitting political commentary. You come to grab this. So don't yell because I've got to go out of the picture for a minute cuz I dropped something. This ain't Texas. Ain't no What's going on here? Are we done with the diddies? No, I've got one more. This one's the important one. The FBI uh deputy director Dan Bonino announced on Saturday that during his and his and the director Cash Patel's first three months in office, the agency conducted large-scale sex predator operations. We've never talked about this. Foreign intelligence and FBI most wanted arrests aided partners in immigration. Um they have said that they have brought down two of the biggest child sex predator stings um ever. They have found let's see they apprehended 205 sex predators themselves while rescuing 115 children. Then in another operation they rescued 244 um children or 109 children. And of that, there were 244 more child predators that they arrested. Great. So, thank God we're finding some of the kids Biden let slip through of the 300,000 that no one gave a [ __ ] where they went to. Thank you. Okay, Dan Bonino. Okay, done. Those are my dies. Let's begin the program now in earnest. What we usually do to start every show is a question from a listener. If you want to send us a question, just email me a one minute or shorter video clip to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Are you all ready for today's question? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Here we go. I'm Matt from Canada. Uh I love your family's willingness to share uh with the rest of the world and I think it's important for others to see family dynamics that are different from their own. Uh, so this one's for the whole family. If forgiveness is a central doctrine of Christianity, why is it so many Republican Christians show so little of it, especially towards Democrats, LGBTQ folks, Jews, Muslims, and most of all, undocumented immigrants who simply are seeking a chance at the so-called American dream. Uh there doesn't seem to be any trace of Christlike compassion from Trump, his administration, or many of his supporters, only resentment, cruelty, and fear. So, how do you reconcile that with the teachings of Jesus? There you go. Uh let's go to mom first. No, let's go to dad first on this one. Dad, you of anybody on this show are generally the most in favor of performing cruel acts to other human beings. Yet you claim to be a Christian. How do you reconcile these things? Dad, but how I reconcile being a Christian, your supposed Christian beliefs, how do you reconcile those with your on this very show calls for genocide? Because saying last week that all Democrats are going to burn in hell. You going to shut up for a minute or not? Don't start. Really, Bob? Really? Trying to answer and he keeps talking. All right. First of all, my Christianity goes to Christians, not non-Christians. No, but Christianity. We're in a We're in a No, we're in a We're in a moral war. And my morality says that if you're not a Christian that believes Christians like like your your listener here, Yeah. he's from Canada, our 51st state. Yeah. And he's not in my wheelhouse of anybody I would forget. What if he's a Christian? I don't care. He's also Canadian. So only American Christians, huh? So only American Christians in your mind deserve the treatment that Christ tells you in the Bible. Correct. To give to everyone. Correct. We're in a holy war. Okay. and and Canada is an enemy and they will become the 51st state. H okay. Can I go next? What that said is his belief. That's his belief. What he was saying Christianity is Hey, no, hang on. Christianity, I think we can all agree forgiveness and acceptance of all people, those are the core tenants of Christianity. Right. Right. But he was trying to state that we don't believe that. No, he's not saying that. No, he's not. He literally asked you, "How do you reconcile your supposed Christian beliefs?" I know you did. Now I'm explaining it to mom. He's asking, "How do you reconcile your Christian beliefs with these political attitudes that are discriminatory, cruel in many cases to your fellow human being?" But that is what he believes that they are that way. I don't What are you talking about? You don't think the the current administration is being cruel to people by ripping their families in half by throwing 70-year-old women, yanking them out of their gardens in their front yard after they've lived in the United States? They just arrested ICE just arrested a six-year-old child with leukemia. That is your belief. That is what you believe happening right now. I don't believe that's happening. I don't believe that's happening. my cat. Scobby, stop it. He just goes over by this door and and peels this thing off. Can you hear it in the background? I when I listened to the man, I listened really careful. I really thought though that was his belief. And when we c when we talk about religion and what you believe, that's my belief. Leave me out of it. He's a foreigner. We don't we don't So you guys are ignoring it. Dad, you're saying Christianity only applies to Americans. Mom, you're saying I ignore this entire thing completely. Okay. Well, I'm just going to go ahead and say you're not Christian and you never have been. You can say it all you want, but it's not true. I don't think that you actually believe in Jesus as your God. I think that you are somewhat spiritual. I think you believe in all of these things, but you are not Christian. Don't start, Haley. Don't start. I know you're atheist. I know you're an atheist. I know Chad is. So, don't start. I'm agnostic. Please don't tell me what I believe. I'm not telling you what you believe. I'm asking you how your beliefs, how do you reconcile in your mind? I told you. I know you did. I'm asking mom. How do you reconcile in your mind this belief in Jesus? A teacher, uh, spiritual leader whose key tenants are forgiveness, love for all humanity. And yet you want these, at least in America, these draconian laws passed or like when he's dropping bombs on people. You guys cheer that. You want Israel to wipe out Palestine. Well, it's an eye for an eye, tooth for eye for an eye. If if we didn't drop those bombs on those people, they would be dropping them on our other friends or us soon. So, you take you take care of yourself. Well, hopefully that answers your question. Thank you very much for sending it in. Anybody else? Like I said, just record a one minute or shorter video clip. Enjoy living in America in about a year or two. Okay. Email it to the necessary conversationpod atgmail.com. Let's get let's get into the show. Our first subject this week is dictator and chief. This week the Supreme Court issued a 6-3 decision down party lines ruling that lower federal courts can no longer issue nationwide injunctions to block executive orders. The reach of their power has been limited to injunctions in their specific districts and states. Citizens who are the targets of illegal or unconstitutional executive orders in states that have not blocked them will now be forced to file individual lawsuits in courts across the country if they wish to seek protection from the judicial branch. The ruling weakens judicial checks on executive power, allowing unconstitutional policies like the order eliminating birthright citizenship to be enforced nationwide with no legal challenge. And it creates a patchwork system in which executive orders might be blocked in one state but not in another. All right. Do you understand all that, Mom and Dad? Some of it. Yes. You followed the Supreme Court hearing or this uh ruling. Okay. So, each state's going to be different. Maybe. Absolutely. They'll have to fight. They'll have to fight it. Well, we'll see. My question is this, Mom. Do you think we now live in a dictatorship? No. What do you think is the difference from Donald Trump being able to decree anything he wants and it goes into effect immediately in a dictatorship? What's the difference there? So did Joe Biden. He did the same thing. How many executive orders did he do like within the first three days? It was ridiculous. You're not understanding. You're not understanding. This ruling now means no federal court can pass a nationwide injunction. So if the president, any president was to issue an executive order that's clearly unconstitutional, breaks a law, etc., etc., any lower court federal judge up to this point, up to this ruling, could have said, "No, you can't do that. An injunction nationwide. The the executive order does not go into effect." That has now been removed by the Supreme Court. So as soon as he signs it, it's in effect nationwide. It's then up to these lower courts to issue injunctions in their jurisdictions, which can be their uh Are you going to be okay, Dad? He wants to say something. Okay. But I'm allowing you to read some more. He's trying to be I'm not reading. I'm talking to you. Okay. Well, then shut up and listen. All right. All right. The Supreme Court has ruled that it's unconstitutional for lower federal uh judges to block Trump. Okay. So, what we're what we've actually done is we've eliminated the dictatorship that was installed by Barack Obama and Joe Biden over the last 12 years. Now, we have an open we have an open country again. And I don't give a [ __ ] if you want to call him a dictator or not. He can now do what needs to be done in his [ __ ] country. No more blocking him. Right. But this all goes back to And there is no but the three equal but separate branches. The judicial branch has now lost. We didn't have three equal branches of government as long as Joe Biden and Barack Obama's rules and regulations apply. You and Haley always said so now you have an open fre. Hang hang on a minute. Congratulations and say and and all I would you'd rather do is say thank you. Okay. So, you believe it was Barack Obama and Joe Biden who somehow came up with the idea that federal courts can issue injunctions? 100%. Okay. Well, that's not right. But, um, Haley, do you think we live in a dictatorship now? Is this the straw? Do you want to leave now? Yeah. I thought, you know, there were a couple of instances where the Supreme Court was doing what I thought they needed to be needed to be done. There were instances where I thought, okay, we're hanging on to the judicial branch. Yeah, it's over. Was that unconstitutional? It's now [ __ ] over. Um, we are living in a dictatorship. Wasn't that unconstitutional? Fascism is alive and well. The oligarchy is taking over. This is the scariest moment I think that we've seen. um he can literally do anything. And so it comes down to am I am I moving to a different state? Is that good enough? And and when we talk about like I want to move, I want to get out of this country, it's [ __ ] like this. That is the tipping point and is it good enough if I move to the Pacific Northwest? Is that is is one of those states going to protect me? I don't know. Now, it's like when the Supreme Court um goes on on your side, your way, then it's just wonderful. But when the Supreme Court would go the other way, oh, then there is no side. There is literal [ __ ] freedom and constitutional amendments. There there is That's why we have a supreme. That's why you get sat here on this. We are losing. We are losing freedoms every day. We're regaining. We're gaining. Okay, Mom. Let me ask you this. Let's take the birthright citizenship issue of this specifically. There are going to be some states of that. There are going to be some states who say yes, we recognize that you are a citizen through your birthright. There are going to be other states that say we do not. What happens to that person? Better move. Are they a United States citizen or not? They're gonna they're going to have to move, I guess, to where they can and eventually they're all going to turn against them, you know, because this is going to be a country of free speech again. You know, a long time ago, Chad, you wrote, "You laugh it up, you dumb son of a bitch." Jesus, why why does me laughing get that response from you? Why do you have to insult me, Dad? You want to be done? Uh, I'm I'm tired of that. Tired of what? you not understanding not understanding the country you live in. Okay, I can say the same about you. And now we're on equal ground. Why are you mad right now? Because you always interrupt and start your [ __ ] I didn't interrupt you. Oh god. Do you guys I laughed at something you said. You don't think if you're born here that you're a citizen in this country? Not if your parents are illegals. Hang on a minute, though. Let's take that out of the equation for a second. Whether you believe in birth, if you were brought here just to be born here, you're not an American citizen. You're [ __ ] born here. Yeah. No, it doesn't make you an American citizen automatically. It It does visit says that. No, the law says every state gets to decide that. Yes, it does. That's literally what this Supreme Court ruling says. states are going to come around and right now half of them are on our side. Okay. My question is this. We are talking about federal citizenship. Are you a citizen of this country or not? We're now in a situation. What? No. No. What? If your illegal mother comes to this country, just not debating whether you think it is valid or not. I'm saying we are now in a situation where half of this country, half of the states in this country will say, "Yes, we recognize USite." And I'm the one who's interrupting. What's that say to you? Hang on. Admit that you just interrupted me. No. It's the only way I can get a word in. All you do is read and babble. Okay. We're now in a situation. We're now in a situation. Hey, hey, we're now in a situation where half of these states are going to say, "Yes, you are a citizen." Two interruptions. And the other half of the states are going to say, "You're not a citizen." Talking. Okay. So, who do we believe? Is that person a citizen or not? And if they're not, do they have to pay taxes? No, they have to move. So, they don't have to pay taxes in red states, but do they in blue states? Like it doesn't make any sense what is happening now. And by the way, the same thing can be issued for anything. Let's say Trump says, "I don't think people should have firearms anymore." And he issues the executive order. They take your guns that night and you can't stop it. Then what? A long time ago, you wrote a script or something or came up with an idea where this United States was going to be divided by things like this and it would be like a line down the middle. If these states believed in one thing, it would be over there. If these states believe in something, I think that's what we're coming down to. I know it's getting closer to going to divide and shatter off to to what is best for you because people will not um agree on things anymore. All they want to do is fight, make it their way only and it's not going to work. You're sitting next to one of those people in regard to what? Wanting to make it his way only. Not politics. Huh? I mean, only in politics, I guess. He's right. My way or the [ __ ] highway. Okay, let's move on to our second topic. Israel in Iran. After last Sunday's last Saturday, sorry, US attacks on Iran. Conflicting intelligence reports emerged early this week. Trump, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and Pentagon's Pete Excath asserted the operation quote obliterated Iran's nuclear capability with the IAEA echoing quote enormous damage and noting Fordo centrifuges are no longer operational. But a leaked US intelligence assessment described as low confidence found key underground components of uranium survived, estimating the strike set Iran's program back by months, not years, contradicting the idea that Iran's nuclear program was quote obliterated. Trump then brokered a 12-day ceasefire between Israel and Iran, which both countries broke immediately, but have upheld since the initial transgressions. When asked about Iran and Israel breaking the ceasefire, Trump said on camera, "They don't know what the [ __ ] they're doing." Mom, do you think a president should say [ __ ] on camera? Probably not, but he's fed up. He's fed up with it. They're not listening. They're Yeah, they're still at war. Mhm. He thought he could go in and help. I don't know. Dad, which of these intelligence reports are we supposed to believe? I believe Trump. I don't give a [ __ ] about the rest of it. So, even if every other intelligence report said no, no damage really happened, but Trump says total obliteration. You believe total obliteration no matter what? Correct. Okay. I believe it too. I believe our president. If Trump said, cuz he's [ __ ] lied since liar. Yeah, dad. You're okay. Go ahead. Use your words. Your turn. Go. Now he's silent treatmenting. Come on. Why do you do the silent treatment thing? It's a very childish move. You don't want to hear what I got to say. You keep I literally asked you. Yeah. After you interrupted me twice. It's a conversation. We're all steamrolling each other in this. Interruptions. Okay. No interruptions. Go ahead. The floor is yours. [ __ ] And begin. Go. Doesn't matter what he says. He's correct in all cases. Yes. They were totally obliterated. They won't have any weapons anymore. Okay. If they start that damn war back up, he's going to kiss uh Iran good goodbye. All right. Um, Mom, and I'm 100% for that. Okay, Mom. Is it truly a ceasefire if both sides break it immediately? And you're and you're pointing at the wrong people. Our biggest enemy is not Iran. It's China. Okay. Mom, again, is it really a ceasefire if both sides break it immediately? No, we know it is not. We don't want They broke it. They broke it. Dad, you don't want it to be a ceasefire? No, I want Iran to be eliminated. Not nuclearly. I want them to be all dead. And how do you think that would happen in your wildest fantasy? Oh, easy. One good one good sweep in there with the US uh Air Force and that country is done. I think it would take several sweeps. But you want this too, Mom? I want it to be over. That's the only way it's ever going to be over as long as there's an Iran. Unless you want this war to go on years. Iran has to be completely killed. But do you understand that every country has citizens that have nothing to do with this war? Yes, I do. And And you don't care? No. And the problem with Iran is I don't give a rat's ass if they all get killed. They need to get out now. Why is that always the answer? If if they want to live on planet Earth, they need to overthrow their government and show some mercy to us and some [ __ ] gratitude. Okay? And if they don't, I want them dead. I mean, this is just 100% dead. It's kind of like, let's say, I I shouldn't even say this. Y'all say I'm silly. There's two kids. They're getting ready to fight. One has a big rock. He's going to hit the other one in the head. He's going to do it. He's eventually going to do it. What the [ __ ] Do you let that kid just stand there and wait for him to hit you in the head or you tell him no, don't do it and then go after him a little bit. That's kind of what's happening here. We're saying don't do it. I I am so lost in this analogy. the day and that's what I knew. I shouldn't even Somebody in the head. You better watch out for the Chinese. That's all I got. Israel had to do something. Yeah. All right. Or Iran was going to come at them with a big bomb. Okay. Um I want to I want to show you guys some tweets from Donald Trump. Are you ready for this? Mhm. Yes. Can you see those? Yeah. No, you got to read them. I can't. I'm going to read them to you. This is from uh September 16th, 2013. Donald J. Trump. I predict that President Obama will Here she go. I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face. This is from September 25th, 2013. Remember what I previously said? Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is. This is from October uh 2012. Yeah. Well, the reason he didn't have to attack him is he Okay, Mr. Interrupto millions. Hang on. You need to be interrupted. Hang on. Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war. In order to get elected, be careful, Republicans. Here's another one. In order to get elected, Barack Obama will start a war with Iran. Here's another one. Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate property properly, not skilled. He's not. So he's issuing all these things about not attacking around and he's uh basically saying Obama's a piece of [ __ ] because he's going to do it and then he's just done. Infinite wisdom, do not think anything has changed in 12 years. I'm not saying no. Of course things have changed. I'm saying shut up. Okay. Um, drag drag out [ __ ] that's a decade old. All right, Dad. Let me ask you this. This directly is about Donald Trump. In 2018, um, Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. That is what led them to getting Can we get something a little closer to today's date? I mean, for God's sakes, you don't go back 10 years. You go back 20. No. 2018. Yes. 2018 is How many years is that? Seven. Let him say what he's gonna say. I'm I'm asking you about something Trump literally did. He pulled us out of the Iran nuclear deal. They then were able to start their nuclear program back up, which has led us to where we are now. They never stopped their nuclear program. That's where you're wrong. But how did they start it back up? Because Trump pulled out of the deal, which means we don't get to send in inspectors. We don't have anybody from the UN looking at what they're doing. Huh. it. Oh, they never let him look at anything anyway. It didn't have anything to do with the big sack of money that Obama gave them. No, we Obama and Biden had a deal in place with Iran that they would not use their they would not enrich their uranium past a certain point and and of course the Iranians stuck to that. They did. That's correct. And then we That's not correct. That is a big revoked the deal. Big [ __ ] lie. And I'll use the f word. What? What did he say? He using the f- word. All right, let's move on to our next topic. The DOJ whistleblower. this week. Arez Ruveni, a former DOJ attorney and acting deputy director of immigration litigation with nearly 15 years of service, who was dismissed in April after exposing flaws in a deportation case, blew the whistle, alleging Emil Bove, the principal associate deputy attorney general and Trump era appointee, pressured DOJ lawyers to quote, "ggignore US court orders and proceed with deportations under the Alien Enemies Act, even if blocked by judges." During a March 14th meeting at DOJ headquarters, Bove allegedly instructed attorneys that quote the planes needed to take off no matter what and that if blocked, the department should quote, "Tell the courts, [ __ ] you," and ignore any such order. Deportation flights went forward despite an injunction from US District Judge James Booseberg on March 15th. Mom, do you believe that Trump's associate deputy attorney general told the DOJ lawyers to ignore court orders? Have no idea. So, you don't believe the whistleblower is what you're saying? I don't know. I don't know. This was their plan from the very beginning, the minute that he was elected, if he even was elected, because I think at this point he wasn't. But regardless, oh my god, the day that he [ __ ] took office, he told them his his entire cabinet, I'm not a Christian. You're going to tell everybody to [ __ ] off and you're going to do what I say. And now they are and here we are. The Supreme Court is [ __ ] kneeling to Donald Trump. This is ridiculous. And the fact that you guys can't see it and you don't care is like insane to me. Yeah, that's the bigger piece of this. There was a a poll that came out um I think last week or maybe the week before that was talking about do Republicans or or MAGA voting Republicans really care about the Constitution if Donald Trump breaks it, if he becomes a dictator. It was like 60% don't give a [ __ ] They don't give a [ __ ] It's like this weird allegiance to a reality TV star. It's [ __ ] insane. What do you guys want? Do you want communis? Do you want communism and socialism? Better brush up on Chinese like New York City's getting ready to have. If that's what you want, you two need to move there. And you better brush up on your Chinese. They don't understand like you understand that you collect social security, right? You know that you get social security. Stop calling her a kid. Stop. I'm 49 years old or you are going to be out of here. All right. I can never every step of the way something more heinous happens like every week and you guys don't give a [ __ ] Like you just ignore it. Like it doesn't [ __ ] matter because it is. Hang on for a second. For one second. You two are the ones who are heinously rap. I'll tell I'm going to I'll tell you this with Trump. I will tell you this. When you one of you know what's really going on here. When Trump first got elected in 2016, there was Here we go. We're another back another 10 years. What do you want to talk about? What you have for breakfast in 2025? Can I please just say this? Like the Chinese takeover of the world. Can Can you just allow me to say this? What I'm gonna say? about it. All right. I in 2016 literally was like, "Well, let me really look into this. Maybe this will actually be good." When he first got elected, I my initial impulse was like, "I think he's uh a dictator who's trying to come in to wreck democracy, blah blah." I thought all those things, but I said, "You know what? This is just maybe it's how the news is spinning it. Maybe I'm a victim of propagandistic [ __ ] coming from the left." So, I looked at Trump and I said, "Let me give it a month. Let me really research all this [ __ ] See what some of his policies are. Give it a chance." I did do that. I said, "Maybe I'm wrong." And I looked at that and we all saw what happened. Turns out I was not. My question to you is, have you both ever in in any of this Trump [ __ ] thought to yourselves, even for a second, wait a minute, maybe I am being tricked here. Maybe our kids are right. No. Never. No. Not for one [ __ ] second. But it's because you're never wrong. You guys are never wrong. No. Yes. I'm fighting for our freedom. You're talking about Trump. He's never wrong. You have never our freedom. In my 44 years of life, you have never acknowledged a moment that you were wrong. Yeah. With Trump or otherwise, Dad. That's for sure. Ever. I'm talking about Trump. You just glitched out. I couldn't hear what you said. Trump Trump's never been wrong. What did Haley say? I She said in her 44 years of life, "Dad, you have never acknowledged being wrong ever." And that is not just with Trump. That's literally with everything. There you go. Well, I don't agree with that, but okay. If that's what you believe, you believe. I I don't like there is It's like you don't believe that. I believe in God and I'm a Christian. That pisses me off so bad. I'm fuming still that you said that at the beginning of the show. Why be angry? Turn the other cheek. You have no right to tell me what I believe. Turn the other cheek. Be Christian. Accept her for who she is and her beliefs. Love her. You have no right because that is what Jesus teaches that we should all love one another. Well, no matter what. Okay, St. Chad, you we have we have the separation of church and state. And Greg Abbott has no right to make my kids look at the Ten Commandments in school every day, but here we are. Then you need to move. Okay, we've gotten heated up. Let's have a good simmer down here. I thought today we might play a little game. Uh, and so let's go in this order. Dad, please participate. I know it's going to be hell for you to do so. Look back toward the camera. There you go. Hi. Hi there. So, this is how it's going to go. We are each going to go around in an order. I can start. It can be me, Haley, mom, dad. Me, Haley, mom, dad. We're gonna go through every letter of the alphabet. So, I'll start with A. Haley, you go to B. And just say a word, any word you want that starts with the next letter in the sequence. Okay, you got it. Mhm. So, I will start it. I will say antelope. Banana. Yeah. Mom, you got C. Hello. This is stupid. No [ __ ] The words. Do they have to go together or what? We c we can we can put a theme on it if you want. I was just trying to make it easy as possible. So, antelope. What was the B? Banana. Banana. Cantaloupe. Dad. D. Yes. season. So, mine is E. He said dog. Yeah. Uh, evil [ __ ] Grand grandiosa. Grandiosa. Grand house. Is that right? What did you say? House. Yeah. H. Okay. H. Mine's I um I jug. Oh, nice. Kangaroo. Did I do it right? Yeah. Yeah. K H I J K. Lamb. Lamb. Uh, mother. Neptune. The point of this is what? Exactly. The point of this is what? Octopus. pancake. Now, why would you laugh at that? He got the P word. That's funny. Uh, quarter element. Uh, rainbow. Wait. P Q. What? Wait. P. Rainbow. What am I on? S. I'm on S. Sucks. Turtle umbrella. What's wrong? I don't know. It just made me laugh. Yeah, you think we're stupid. I should have said stupid. What? What did you Did you guys I said umbrella. It's you. Yeah, you're on beat. Vasectomy. Oh [ __ ] What am I on? W. Um, we the people. Nice. Xerox. Oh. Uh, yellow zebra. We done. We did it. That was pretty fun. You guys didn't like it? Yeah, it was a little crazy. I thought we had to hook them together to make sense. None of that made sense. Well, I thought maybe we could do like '8s bands or something like that, but I just wanted to make it easy to have a little activity for us to do to engage with one another, make each other laugh, lighten the mood. And now, let's get right back into it. Our next topic is the New York mayoral shakeup. This week, a 33-year-old Democratic socialist and Queens assemblyman named Zoron Mdani rocked the Democratic party by winning the Democratic mayoral primary, defeating former Governor Andrew Cuomo and progressive Brad Lander. Mom Donnie ran on a platform of making housing. Mom Donnie ran on a platform of making housing more affordable and taxing the rich. Many Republicans seized on Money's win as a sign of Democratic weakness ahead of midterms, using it to rally the conservative base. Progressives celebrated the win, hailing it as a milestone for socialist and working-class movements, drawing parallels to Obama's 2008 breakthrough. Centrist Democrats expressed concern, fearing tax hikes and financial instability if Mum Donnie wins the eventual election. Money's victory is seen as a seismic shift signaling growing power of grassroots and progressive politics in urban America. Haley, do you think he can win against Eric Adams? The current in New York, I do. Yeah, I think so, too. I do. Mom, do you think he can? Mom. Yes. Because the people are being buffaloed. H. What's that mean? What's that? Mom, can you hear us? He had a debate. He had a debate. What are you doing? Hang on. Hang on. Mom, what are you doing over there? Are you reading your phone or something? No. I looked at Dad's blood sugar. Is that okay? Oh, can you hear what we're saying? Yes. Just on some delay. Yeah. I know. You were glitching really bad. You were glitching on us. I I think it's your internet. Yeah, it could be. Our internet's terrible today. Yeah. So, he was in a debate with the other candidates and in that debate, he's winning votes because he said one thing. And I saw this on Tucker Carlson. I love him. What this guy said, there was a question. And the question was, if you visited a foreign country right now, where would you go? All the other candidates were like, "Oh, I'd go to Israel. You know, I'd make peace there. I'd go here. I'd go there." He said, "I would stay in New York." He said, "Um, in regard to Israel, they could come here or something and talk to me here, but I would stay in New York to help solve all the problems here." So, that got him a lot of votes. Mhm. Um I don't agree with anything he wants to do. He wants to defund police. He wants to raise taxes. Uh and to do that, he's going to do it with in the white communities only. So, white communities would pay more taxes than the other communities. He would abolish all prisons and let everyone out. Um he hates any kind of property rights at all. uh from the river to the sea. They asked him what that meant. He said that means equal rights. He is not for Jewish people. He is not for Israel. That's my opinion. And oh, he is also for in grocery stores uh setting the price and that's what it is. And we know what that is. That is socialism and communism. So, if that's what you want, vote for him and that town, New York, will go down. All right, Dad. Do you think he can beat Eric Adams? I don't know. I don't personally I don't think so because I think what you got now is this guy was running against Quomo. Yeah. I could I could have beat Quomo without even uh what do you call it? Campaigning. Yeah. Cuomo killed too many people. Cuomo was a dead duck. Yeah, Cuomo's no good. This guy could have won. Anybody who ran against Cuomo would have won it. Maybe. Maybe. Now, as far as Eric Adams goes, I'm not sure he can beat Eric Adams. Maybe in the end, people will come to their senses because Adams got a lot of the same ideas he does. The difference is he's not a communist. Well, this guy's buffaloing everybody. He grew up He grew up very rich. He's only been in the United States six years. I don't know what buffaloing means, but I think the real difference here is Eric Adams is obviously very closely aligned with Trump. He was facing federal corruption charges. Trump essentially made them disappear in exchange for his loyalty. He might win with ICE raids. I don't think that's why he might win. Who? Eric Adams. Yes. I think that's why he'll lose. I do think Mumani is going to win this. I don't know what that will mean nationally. I mean, I guess that's my next question is Haley, do you think uh let's say he does win this RA, even if he doesn't win the race, just winning this primary, do you think we're going to start to see other candidates like him popping up across the country? Yeah. Uh like Bernie Sanders is on this oligarchy tour, you know? Yeah. Uh AOC joins in. Betto is now joining in. So, I feel like this kind of grassroots movement is happening. Maybe you'll get your comments with socialism then. People are sick of this. People are sick of this [ __ ] And so I think if a state can take if you can take your state back. 60% of the people in this country are not sick of this [ __ ] They're sick of your [ __ ] I mean, I disagree. I disagree. And the proof is that all 50 states, all 50 states are protesting the [ __ ] president of the United States. Like all 50 states, not one, not two, not just red, not just blue. Every [ __ ] state is protesting. No, they're not. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. Dad, you're saying that the no kings protest didn't happen? It doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter. It did happen. And it sure as hell and it sure as hell does not uh indicate the position of America. Not the highest percentage. That giant prot guys with their little [ __ ] haircuts didn't change. That is our belief. And a lot of those people wait hang on a minute. A lot of those people were paid. Some were not, but a lot of them were. And that is our belief. Dad, what haircuts are you talking about? Yeah. The little king crown haircuts. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. You don't even know about him. I don't know what he's talking about. Maybe something he saw on news. Bunch of dumb, ignorant [ __ ] got their haircut in the crowns. You didn't see that? No. No. Yeah. And not and it isn't uh 60% of the people in this country laugh their ass off and say what a [ __ ] joke. All right. Uh let's move on to our next topic. Trump's shift at the NATO summit. This week saw the annual NATO summit in the HEG. And Trump changed his tune about NATO and about Ukraine. After NATO countries agreed to a 5% of GDP increase in military spending by 2035, Trump praised Zalinsky for his resilience and expressed empathy, calling their meeting long and substantive and acknowledging the personal toll of war. Trump went further in this new direction, publicly rebuking Putin, calling him the more difficult partner in peace negotiations and urged him to end the war. Dad, just let me read this [ __ ] without having the side conversations, please. because then I I don't know if you've heard anything I've said and I want to ask you questions about it. Trump even said he would look into supplying Ukraine with more US-made Patriot missile systems. Mom, Trump likes Zillinsky now. Do you? No, I've never liked Zalinski. So, you're going against Trump. I don't like Zillinski. We shouldn't be there. We shouldn't be in that war. We should get out of there. So, you disagree with Donald Trump? I guess so. I don't like Zalinski. Progress. Dad. Trump likes Zalinski. Do you like him now? I hate Zalinski. So, you also are are breaking with Trump. No, we just don't like Zalinski. Trump's playing him for the pool. In what way? You'll see. Well, just tell me what you think though. He's sucking him in and then to do what? And then what's going to happen is Russia is going to own the Ukraine. But why does Trump need to suck Zalinsky in for that to happen? If you believe it's already happened because if he if he goes peace now, he won't get he won't get the entire country. And I think Trump wants the entire Ukraine to belong to Russia. And so you think by Trump saying that Vladimir Putin is the the more difficult person to deal with in these peace negotiations that too is part of this, it's a ruse. Yes. To what end? Why why does Donald Trump have to initiate a ruse? because he's got to give Zinsky something in return, which is his little what do you call it? Vacation spot in Poland. Oh, yeah. But why? I don't understand. If you want or you believe Trump wants Putin to completely take over Ukraine to absorb that into Well, it's going to happen. It's not would have, could have, should have. Trump already knows it's going to happen. It's a foregone conclusion. Then why does he need to trick Zalinski here? Because that'll make Zalinski quit fighting. By promising him more weapons to fight, it will make Zalinsky quit fighting. Correct. How? I just told you how. No, you didn't. What's the logic there? I just told you. So Trump says he's got to have something to make it look like they're going to continue the war so that he can build his little rats nest in Poland and then when it's all over the entire Ukraine's going to belong to the Soviet Union. Could be. Okay. Mom, do you think Trump is is tricking him? Kind of. I guess maybe sucking him in a bit. Yeah. I mean, Silinski is a fool. I think Trump doesn't want Putin to have more power, more land, more this, more that, because then he like out trumps Trump, you know? No. Yeah. I think Trump gets in his mind, oh, the people like it if I'm doing this, and that can change as the wind blows. And right now, I think he's like, I went to NATO and every all the papers are now writing that I'm a friend of NATO and friend of the Zalinski. This is good press. I'll keep doing this. He doesn't care about the the actuality of any of it. Um, Mom, Dad, both of you, you've said Ukraine can't win this war. If Trump gives them more weapons, do you think they might be able to if they have our backing? No. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. No. No. Yes. Yes. Russia's going to win. All right. Dad, are you checking out? What? You just seem completely uninterested and you're watching TV now. Yeah. He's ready to say the I told you what I thought. Yeah. Did you forget already? Nope. All right, never mind. Let's go into our final topic. Uh it is Newsome versus Fox News. This week, California Governor Gavin Newsome filed a $787 million defamation suit against Fox News, claiming that an anchor and reporter falsely portrayed a June call between himself and Trump. Newsome alleges that Fox's Jesse Waters program edited video to suggest he lied about the timing and content of the call related to deploying the National Guard to Los Angeles during ICE protests. The 787.5 million is a matched figure Fox had to pay Dominion Voting Systems in 2023 when they lost a similar defamation case. Newsome says he'll drop the suit if Fox airs a prominent apology and retracts the claim. Fox News dismissed the lawsuit as a quote transparent publicity stunt designed to chill free speech and it will defend vigorously. Mom, should politicians be allowed to sue news outlets like this? Sure. All right. Yes. If they report it wrong. What is my question? Come on. Can you please just be in this? Let me ask you this. Why is it so difficult for you to engage with us for an hour? Because you talk about the same [ __ ] over and over and over again and you're mile off track. Your your biggest problem is not Iran and and uh the Ukraine. It's China. We're not talking about that. No, that we never do talk about that. That's what I'm trying to point out. We talk about it all the time if it's No, we don't. Okay, go for it. What do you want to talk about? I just told you China. Yeah. Okay. What do you want to talk about China? What do you know about him? What do I know about China? Yeah. Several things. I don't know. You want me? Nothing. Tell me everything you know about China. What's your biggest enemy? Okay. Iran's not a big deal. Iran's gonna go by the wayside. Okay. Haley, do you think that Fox News will retract these statements eventually, or do you think they'll go to court over this? Didn't you say in the past that they had to pay up for something? Yeah, Dominion Voting Systems um sued them because they were I don't know if you remember this, they basically were saying like that that company somehow rigged the election for Biden. that company sued them. One, Fox News had to pay Dominion Voting System $787.5 million. Yeah. I mean, from what from their [ __ ] response, I think that they're going to let it ride. It'll probably go to court. Yeah, I do, too. It'll be interesting. They can't make false statements and stuff. They And And didn't they say, too, that Trump never called him, but he did? News. Go ahead, Haley. News is so We were talking about when we were in Switzerland, we were like reading the news because we were over there when the United States bombed Iran. Um, and you know, like all of the news outlets were reporting it and some of it was being sensationalized, some of it, like you don't ever know what to [ __ ] believe anymore. Um, I don't know what's credible. I don't know what's credible anymore. I don't know where to get my news from anymore. I don't know what to believe. And so it becomes like a he said, she said. Did Fox News really make [ __ ] up? Did they doctor whatever [ __ ] footage or audio clips? Like I don't know anymore. I don't know what to believe. So it's all just kind of like educated guess at this point. Uh I know. I believe in freedom of speech, but like if you're warping [ __ ] and splicing it together, that's no longer you're taking [ __ ] out of context. And so you should be able to sue somebody for doing that. But how do you prove that it's not 100% real? I I don't know. It's It's [ __ ] up. Yeah. And and made wilder with all the AI stuff coming out. I'm getting like pretty heavy into using V3 right now to start making some weird little projects. and it's unbelievably good at making like man on the street interview footage that looks completely real. I think mom and dad, you're gonna have a very hard time discerning like in this next uh political cycle, especially the the next presidential election, whatever that's going to look like. I assume Trump will be trying to in quotes run for a third term. Okay. Say what? I said China. Remember? Hi. Hello there. What did you not do? What did you not do last week? Oh, I love everybody. Uh, okay, Dad. Speaking of that, last week you told me I was going to burn in hell. Um, do you think that's Christian? Sure. Do you really believe I'm going to burn in hell? Christian. That's right. You're an atheist. Aren't we both baptized? Yeah. Yes. Yes. I'm not an atheist. Yes, you are. That's what you and Haley said. It's what you believe. I've always said no. That's not agnostic. There's I wouldn't even say I'm agnostic at this point. I think there's something. I'm seeing [ __ ] and hearing [ __ ] China. God, don't ever say I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in God. I don't like that. Haley, can I sue Haley because she said that about me? You can sue anybody. This is America. Why would you want to do that? China. I'm your kid. I am a Christian and I believe in God. All right. Why would you say I'm not? You're my kid. No, we're not saying you don't believe in God. We're saying your political beliefs, especially as dictated by your orange God, they run right into the face of your supposed religious beliefs. Supposed Christianity says, "Forgive all people. Love all people. Embrace all people." I shouldn't have brought it up. I love you all. Love you, Chad. I love you all. China, love you, Haley. I'm glad you're What do you mean? You shouldn't have brought it up. Hang on a minute. Mom, we got to go. I love you, Mom. Okay, you guys are ending the show. Is that what's happening? No. What did you want to say? No, not we. I wanted to ask you two questions. Dad, I want to get to the bottom of this thing. Last week, you told me to burn in hell or said that I was going to burn in hell. Yes, you are. Because I live in California. Oh, well, it's because of what you believe. why you live in California. But you don't seem to be bothered by this too much. Well, I can't stop it, right? Only he can stop it. So, you fully accept that I'm going to burn in hell and you have no emotional reaction to that. However, if we start talking about genocides, you get real revved up. And by by the way, China. Yeah. So, you really do think I'm going to burn in hell? Yes. Why would you believe that? Because he's an atheist. I'm not. I am literally telling you Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Damn, China. Now I'm going to start doing it to you. I don't think you think I'm going to really burn in hell. No. Do you? No, Dad. Yes. But Haley thinks I am cuz she thinks I'm not a Christian. I don't think hell exists. No. Well, then you won't have anything to worry about, will you? No. But I'm trying to get to the the bottom of this. You have had these children, Dad. It's me and Haley. In in a lot of ways, it seems like we are uh we antagonize you or we make your life worse in some way. Do you wish that you would have never had us? No. My god. Why are you asking a question like that? Cuz he's telling me I'm going to burn in hell with no emotional reaction to that. He's like, "You are going to burn in hell. [ __ ] it." I mean, if that's his attitude toward me, I'm like, "Why did he have me? Does he wish I wasn't here? No, you should have. You got to change your attitude. He wants to I want you to move out of California. Then you won't burn in hell. Probably. Yeah. If you get away from that hogwash that you get indoctrinated in every other day or every day, uh it might change your mind. Okay. Uh well, Mom, I You're not dead. You're not dead yet. So, you still have hope. Okay. We're going before you guys go. So, you better make peace with us. That's the way I look at it. What am I even trying to do? What am I trying to do with this very podcast? You will only see us maybe say China. You'll only see us maybe seven more times in your lifetime. What? She mom has this weird death. I see you every week. No, you don't. I'm talking in person. Okay. Dad, I want to tell you a quick story. I do these meditations. Hurry, make it quick. His reaction to it. I'm I do these meditations uh called Gateway where I'm trying to like do out-of- body experiences and [ __ ] and go into the astral plane, whatever. Sometimes I see [ __ ] in there that just comes from whatever. I saw dad this past week. I saw you as a [ __ ] angel. You believe this [ __ ] I saw a what drugs are you on when you do this? Zero stone cold sober. It's just meditating. I saw you as like a 25year-old version of yourself. [ __ ] skinny, happy, smiling, glowing with a golden aura. And that is the you that I keep in my [ __ ] head. That's how I when I think of my dad, I think of that version of you. Not this one sitting here telling me I'm going to burn in hell, but a loving, kind person glowing with heavenly golden light. I just want you to know that. That is how I see you. What's that? What's that weird neck stretch? I'm sticking my nose up. All right. He's proud. I'm being an angel in my mind. Yes, that was him being proud. All right. I just thought maybe I could break through there a little bit, but whatever. Thanks everybody for joining us. That's me. Have you two picked up on what I want you to know? China. China. There we go. Thank you everyone for joining us. If you have a question, please send it to the necessary [email protected]. One minute or shorter video. Try to pick an American for a change instead of somebody from our 51st state who really doesn't know what they're talking about. All right. My dad is putting the call out to all Americans. Send us those one minute videos at the necessary conversation potgmail.com. Before we go, as always, we have had very heated conversations. And I will say this, I got a lot of DMs this week, specifically Dad, because of your message uh or your conversation with me where you told me I was going to burn in hell. A lot of people were saying he's hateful. Don't give him a platform. What are you doing? Etc., etc. I got more of those DMs this week than I ever have. And I will continue to say this till I'm blue in the face. I don't see it that way. I see mom and dad, I think you're literally in a cult. I think you're victims of it, unable to see what is happening. And I will be here every [ __ ] week to try and help you guys uh get out of it. And for as many DMs as I get saying, write them off, go no contact. I get just as many, if not more, saying, "Thank you so much for doing this podcast because it helps people out there who have this exact same relationship in their lives." So to everybody who sent me DMs, thank you. But to the one saying stop this podcast, I'm very sorry. I simply cannot do that. But I want to tell you something. Yeah. If we don't talk politics, we're not like this to each other. We're not wishing each other death. We're not wishing each other harm and hurt. We're not like this. So why can't we do a podcast without the politics in at once? China. Also, we can. Also, Bob, I would have you remember before we started doing this podcast, these conversations, we would be having them whenever we were in person with each other. By by putting these conversations in this podcast, it allows us, I think, to compartmentalize this version of ourselves so that we can actually have regular conversations in real life. But you're you're all forgetting we literally did not talk for over a year. That is no phone calls. I'm not no phone. Maybe three to four weeks. Not a year. Not a year. You You literally like either blocked or stopped following me on social media. I got it, too. The night Trump won, I made two memes and posted them to my Facebook account that were just pictures of Trump and quotes that he said, nothing more. Okay, that's a lie. You had fire burning around him. He had all kinds of weird [ __ ] That was later. That was later. This is on the night of the election. I put two Trump pictures with direct quotes of his. One was the grab him by the [ __ ] quote and the other one was I want to date my daughter. Those are things he said. You immediately sent me a thing uh text message. You're ruining my Facebook. How dare you? Dad, you came at me. Take those down. It's insulting your mother. You guys had the thinnest skin on the night that he won the election. And from that moment, our relationship was very strained. Haley is right. There was about a year that passed where we weren't talking at all. You guys are denying that reality. I don't think it was a year. Keep it up and get on the China wagon. That did happen. And so that is why we do this podcast. You get on the China wagon and you both may save your lives after the next The reason the podcast was born is because we were not speaking. Fly around with me. So now we talk for an hour every week about all this political [ __ ] and outside of it we are able to maintain relationships. That was the whole point of this because it destroyed our family. Watch out for China. Okay. All right. Looks like you two have had enough. That is our show. Mom, I do love you. Dad, my sweet angel, I love you as well. I don't like that cuz that's spiritual. That means he's going to die. I don't like that. What? No, it doesn't. It means that I have made peace on a personal level with all the [ __ ] anger and rage that comes from him directed at me. Yeah, I dream about Max. All right, chill, mom. This is I'm telling you what it means to me. It means that I'm seeing the best version of dad. That even despite all this [ __ ] [ __ ] that he's telling me I'm going to burn in hell, saying he hopes somebody kicks in my door and kills me and China's going to abduct me, all this stuff. Despite all of that, I still see that core person in there. I still see him in there. And that's the version of him that is is the one that that I think is the real one. Yeah. probably closer to reality than you think it is. What does that mean? Means I could be dead. Oh god. That's not the point of any of this. You guys are this weird fascination with death. Jesus. You got seven You only got seven more times to see us. That's probably the truth. That's not the truth. Okay. Well, I love you both nonetheless. What? however many times are on your calendar. Uh, and Haley, I love you, too. Glad you made it back safe from your trip. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. Made it back in one piece. They didn't even stop me or confiscate my phone at customs. Made it in. That's good. That's good. I love everybody. What? Nothing. Watch out for China. China. All right. Mom, did you do the I love you already? and try to get try to get on your caller list somebody that's not from our 51st family. Okay, we've heard that. Yes, I said it. I'll say it again. Chad and Haley, I've always loved you. I always wanted you. I can't believe you brought that little thing up. I've got to go. What little thing? Got to go take care of ask the question whether we wanted to have you two. That's a valid [ __ ] question after being told I'm going to burn in hell. Not really, but whatever. To me, it was all right. My heart has always been broken half cuz you don't want children. So, I got to go. What does that have to do with your heart? Out. Well, that's the end of the show. Thanks for joining us. We will see you next week. That's pretty bad. Now you've run us both off at least once.