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Hi. Hello. Everybody, thank you for joining me on this evening. It's kind of weird. What is that shadow? Where is that coming from? I think it's my mic arm. Uh thanks everybody for joining me. Oh my god. Why is this happening to me? Everything's going wrong. Oh my god. Hang on a minute. Oh, I won't Hang on, dude. Okay. Okay. Everything's fine now. Everything's good. Hi everyone. Thanks for joining me.

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Um Huh, [sighs] what a day. What an app. I do feel like today my mom um took some steps back for sure. End of Samba, big fan. Thoughts on the D&D/WoW crossover. Okay, we're just getting into this now, huh? So the first question has nothing to do with today's show. Uh I was a huge World of Warcraft player. I don't know how many like combined days of my life I put into that game, but quite a few hundreds.

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I have mixed feelings about it. Like I think it's kind of cool, but I also I'm like this is just the first step. It's like the gateway drug for um Hasbro to be able to turn Dungeons and Dragons into what they're doing with Magic the Gathering where you they've already kind of teased there's going to be a Star Wars D&D and who knows what else.

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There's going to be an Office D&D and blah blah blah. And I I don't know. I just don't like Universes Beyond ideologically, I guess, for any of those things. But that's where I stand. If you enjoy it, enjoy it. Feel free. K Van Winkle 777, thank you very much. You need to show Mary Lou the video of Bill Cassidy voting to confirm Todd Toddy Blanchey. His lip is quivering the whole time and refuses to look up from the podium. Not the look of someone who is proud or confident of what he's doing.

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I I mean, I was kind of talking about this today in the show. I think like um Tawny Balanche certainly is on the hook. But like all these other Republican senators and Congress people who are voting for all this [ __ ] that Trump wants and uh putting these people in in office or you know certifying them or whatever. Um I I think they also must feel or know that they have committed some kind of criminal acts that are going to probably land them in jail for the rest of their life unless they can completely control the political apparatus from now until their death. So I think like all

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of them pretty much are working toward the complete dismantling of the American political system, any kind of freness or fairness, and they are working to install people that will assure crimes are hidden. What they don't realize is that Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of these people. He'll throw anybody under the bus at any time as evidenced by all the people he's fired and sent to jail.

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Uh Michael Cohen comes to mind, you know. So I don't think like that makes them any safer, but also the the converse certainly doesn't. If they like oh have a change of heart and they're like I can't vote this guy in and then Trump gets pissed at him and you know launches all whatever the blackmail is that he has against them and all that kind of [ __ ] So I don't know. Um I don't know if that video would change my mom's mind. I I do feel like today she took kind of some steps back and I found it interesting that at the end of today's

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show she said my dad is getting ready to come back on the show. He's getting stronger, getting better and all this [ __ ] And it's like as he's regaining power he's like sucking [laughter] her back in like a black hole into Magadom. I don't know. Uh Jack Zilkin Good day, Chad. Good day, Jack Zilkin. God may or may not have invented abortions in quotes, but only 25% of fertilized embryos successfully implant and survive to birth.

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In so law. Okay. I'm not sure what the um I don't quite understand this. May or may not have invented abortions. Well, if you I'm not saying that. I'm saying Christians must believe that. Christians believe that their Christian God is all powerful, creates everything, and that all things are part of God's plan. Therefore, anything that exists is part of God's plan in the Christian faith, uh including abortions.

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But only 25% of fertilized embryos successfully implant and survive to birth. All right. I won't argue with the stats. I don't know them off the top of my head, but I believe you. Abby Broar 2000 Give your mom a list of Trump promises versus Mom Donny promises. I wonder her thoughts on what politicians are actually delivering. Well, that's what I was trying to get her um to uh see today with Abby Dual L Sayed you know, that like a huge part of his campaign is that he wants to give health care to everybody. And my mom has openly said that that is something she She's been

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saying that multiple times for the past month or so, you know. So, on a very big issue she aligns completely with this Democratic Socialist, with this progressive. And I was just trying to get her to see that, but she won't like she won't cross teams. And and I don't know how to like exactly get her to see that. And I like I said, I'm I was a little afraid today when she was like, "Dad's getting ready to come back on."

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Cuz she felt very MAGA today to me. She wasn't giving an inch on anything other than when we start talking about ice, and she was like, "I already told you. I don't like ice." Um In Inadamac 5842, hi from ML Oh, no, Michigan probably MI. Love you brought up AES. Your mom That's Abdul El-Sayed. Your mom and and many think MR wins, but Republicans in MI have insanity trying same GOP over and over ex- expecting a different result. Man, there were a lot of vowels missing in those words.

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[laughter] Um yeah, I mean I I think that his primary win and obviously Mondaire Jones and I would even throw like AOC and and to some degree Bernie Sanders kind of like kicked this thing off when he was trying to do his thing, I guess. But this like hyper progressive thing that is happening in the Democratic Party where you're getting these like entrenched centrist candidates getting tens of millions of dollars to try and beat these upstart ultra progressives and they're losing. I [ __ ] love it.

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Um I think it's like severely needed. The only way you're going to be able to combat the kind of Trumpian MAGA corporate billionaire interests in the Republican Party is with somebody who is super progressive. We've seen what centrism gets us in the Democratic Party. It gets us Trump. We we ran a centrist against Trump um in Kamala Harris. Didn't work out. So, you know, I I do feel like we need something to like you need to fight the the kind of extremism in the Trump Party with an equal measure of it on the opposite side.

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I'm very happy about all that [ __ ] Okay, and I hope he wins. I hope he wins the actual election, of course. Captain Goku 2280. Hey Chad, just yesterday I paid $15 to fill up a 3-gallon gas tank for a lawnmower. I was pissed. [ __ ] Trump and his cronies and [ __ ] this goddamn war that we should not be in. Keep up the good work. Agree with you on all of that. I drive what is called a Prius.

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So, um I don't I fill up my tank, you know, every and I don't drive a lot. I my only real drive is like to the gym and that's like two bucks away. I fill up my gas tank probably every month and a half, I would say. And uh I have noticed in the past, you know, 5 months or so, it ain't good. It's like double what I remember it being, you know, it [ __ ] sucks. And it's you you have this like personal experience of just watching your [ __ ] bank account dwindle or like paying more for [ __ ] so that means

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you can't buy other things and do fun things you want to do. And it's like meanwhile you now see all this news of like Trump is giving uh these these uh refunds to all these giant corporations and these billionaires and [ __ ] and he ain't giving [ __ ] to us. And that like seems to have no effect on my mom. Even today she was like, "Have you seen all the billionaires are leaving New York cuz they're having to pay higher taxes?" She like feels for the billionaires, not the regular person who can't [ __ ] afford to eat. I don't get it. Chicken

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9665 [snorts] Is the fact that Bob has been shouting more about politics the reason why Mary Lou has taken five steps back this week? He must have N M on Moore. Oh, Newsmax on Moore. Love from I'm sorry, I can't see that flag. I can only tell it is a flag. My eyes are Will this help or hurt? I I bought these glasses at Costco or at CVS.

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No, that doesn't work. That makes everything way more blurry. I'm so sorry I can't see the flag from this distance. Chicken 9665, but yeah, [snorts] I was talking about this earlier. I think like I I didn't know if it was coincidental or not in the beginning when like we started, you know, when my dad had all these health issues and he hasn't been on the show for a minute and uh my mom had kind of disconnected from Newsmax a little bit.

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And she started like having some clarity on this [ __ ] She started listening to reason a little bit. Um now that my dad is gaining power, is he the kind of like the black hole that sucks her into all of this? Has that always been the way it was? I don't know. Uh we're kind of like sifting through that right now. And I think as my dad returns to some kind of power, hopefully enough to come back on the show, I'm curious to see how it will affect my mom. She has already made some claims though. [ __ ] ICE and universal

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health care for all. Will she go back on those claims? Will she literally backslide that far if my dad comes back on the show that she's not able to uh maintain those viewpoints? I don't know. But I I suspect yes that it is it does have some impact on her, unfortunately. In Adamac5842, once again, J. James lost 18 to 20. M.R. lost 24 in a Trump landslide. Ask Mary Lou why M.R. would win year would win year Trump disapproval 60%.

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I'm sorry. In Adamac, that one's that one's lost me. Um I need to have a few more words in there, I think, to understand this. I'm very sorry. J. James lost 18 to 20. M.R. lost 24 in a Trump landslide. Ask M.L. why M.R. would win year Trump disapproval 60% plus.

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[laughter] Yeah, I'm having a hard time with that one. My apologies. Zack Jack Zilkin. Bacterial meningitis infection of the brain is preventable with vaccines. I would be furious at the snake oil maha hucksters if I were Mary Lou. Yeah, I mean her her friend Jules dying is like excruciatingly sad. My mom was like super um sad about it, obviously. As are we all. Like she was on our show. I I met her a handful of times at my parents' house and stuff. And she was so young, and it just was like out of [ __ ] nowhere. It It's wild. Um you know, freak accidents

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happen. Certainly, whatever kind of health care is in place or not in place can have uh effects on that and everything. But um yeah, it's just a sad situation. Abby Normal to Jewels Silverstone. I don't know what that means, but thank you. Jorge Alejandro 672, we love you, Chad. Thank you very much. I love you, too. And I know they're busy, but how can we get a commitment from the ladies to be on the live because we have questions we want to ask them?

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[ __ ] DM them. That ain't on me. I force no one to do anything on this podcast that they don't want to do. I will be here holding it down no matter what. Um you know, my mom right now is like obviously going through a difficult time. My sister is going through like a a hellish work thing right now where she's having to work basically like 20 hours a day and all this kind of [ __ ] I don't begrudge them that. I'm happy to do it. But yes, if you want them to be on the show, you got to you know, pop

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off in the comments, DM them. I'm not sure. I'm not sure how to get them to do it. I myself will never you know, like strong-arm them into it. If they don't want to do it, I ain't going to push it. Uh you know, I don't ever want this this podcast to feel like a

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[snorts] you know, some kind of mandatory thing. It's always been like at will. Do we want to keep having this conversation or not? And part of that is do you want to come do a live thing with me or not? I like doing this. I like answering people's questions and and uh just kind of seeing what the reaction to the show was cuz I know what my noise is at the end of it. I have kind of like two reactions. I have one when we when I stop record, when I hit the [ __ ] off button, you know, and I kind of I'm

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like, [ __ ] Like today, for example, I was like, yeah, my mom really does seem to have taken a few steps back. That's what went through my head. Then I'm editing the show and I'm kind of spot-checking it and I I rewatch maybe like 25% of it as I'm like, you know, putting the graphics in and all that kind of stuff and just to kind of like reconfirm some things that, you know, I I had a memory of in the thing or like was this funny or was this stupid or whatever. I don't ever edit any of that [ __ ] out.

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It's just for my own kind of like um to know, to have knowledge of what the show actually was. And then I I get another impression of it obviously during the lives when I get to see, you know, your comments and stuff and like what other people saw in the show that maybe I missed. At any rate, um if you want them on here, I I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. It ain't going to be me who's who's forcing them to do it.

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Perky pop cycle. Have you had Pam Hemphill on the show? No. The maggot granny that refused a pardon for her participation in January 6th. She's left the cult a granny-to-granny conversation for Mary Lou. Her name is Pam Hemphill. Let me put that on my hand. Um I remember when she did that and it was like, "Whoa." You know, the integrity to be able to do something like that.

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But yeah, maybe I'll reach out. Um that would be interesting because also my mom is like, "Those people were heroes." Pam Hemphill. That's a good idea. I'll I'll maybe DM her something. Um Brittany Shepard. Thank you. Greg Kinnear speaks in third person. What an episode. We are so back. The movie about the movie legendary.

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[laughter] If there is a movie about those podcasts, I mean, we talked about this in in one of our simmer downs. I I think was my question was if there was a movie about your life, who would you want to play you? Um and I forget. God, what did my dad say? I don't think he said anyone, but we threw out some things. Robert De Niro, Tom Cruise. I think I said something like that. I always wonder like who would play my dad.

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But I did a I am also like a TV writer and a movie writer, and I write books and stuff. All that shit's out there if you're curious about any of the books I've written. Google my name, and you will get those books. You can get them all on Amazon or wherever you buy books. Um one of the the projects that I did, my family has been like an inspiration for a lot of different things that I've written over the years.

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But, I did a project at ABC. It was a sitcom pilot, a multi-cam sitcom pilot. This is many years ago. It was during Obama called Southern Discomfort. And it was a sitcom based on my family. The premise was a little bit skewed. The character that was me was um in his early 20s, and he was still living at home. He had graduated with a liberal arts degree, couldn't find a job, so he was still living at home with his mom and dad. He was super liberal. Mom and dad are super not liberal, just like in real life.

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Uh that guy and the guy that played me was this actor Steve Talley. My sister's character was pushed a little bit. She was uh coming back. She had just graduated from Harvard Business School and had a job lined up at Goldman Sachs. And she was going to come back for like a couple of weeks after graduation before she starts this job. And of course, the dad is proud, the mom is proud, and they're like lording it over the son. They're like, "You should be more like her. Look, she's going out.

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She's going to make a a difference in the world." And uh she winds up saying, "Fuck that. I have reconnected with my old high school boyfriend. I'm moving in with you, too. I've I've [ __ ] the job away, and now I'm going to live back here." And the parents are like, "Oh my god." And that's kind of the start of the show. And that uh Sophia Bush played my sister.

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My dad was played by Don Johnson, and my mom was played by Mary Steenburgen. We made this pilot, you know, and then they threw it in the trash as as they basically do with everything. But, we made it, and it was super fun to do. And it I always like laugh about that fact that Don Johnson, who during the '80s was uh Time magazine or People magazine or whoever does it, the sexiest man alive. He won it like 3 years in a row or some [ __ ] in the '80s when he was on Miami Vice.

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And I always say like the sexiest man alive played my dad [laughter] in this [ __ ] pilot. So funny to me. And [ __ ] Mary Steenburgen um won an Oscar, played my mom. That's [ __ ] wild. Oh [ __ ] where was I? Uh Bernie Shubert, thank you. Oh no, we already did these ones. Greg Kinnear, thank you. Okay, Jorge Alejandro 672, any idea on Bobby back? No, I've talked to him a couple times on the phone. He's sounding a lot better. It's just a matter of like right now he's um like confined basically to a hospital bed and in the living room. He's watching

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Newsmax like laying in his hospital bed eating Arby's. So I think once he my my deal with him was always like you got to get out of the hospital bed to be able to do the show. So we're hoping that we can get him in a wheelchair. He can, you know, sit in it for some amount of time, but like certainly not an hour at this point. So it may be kind of piecemeal thing where he comes back for like one topic and then [ __ ] off or I'm not sure exactly, but it is looking like he will be coming back at some point in

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the near future. Two ICs, one palm. Um Haley definitely needs new t-shirt merch for Hive. Turdy Blanche, Turdy Blanchey, legalish. Yeah, we need some merch for this show, too. I'm going to try and make a t-shirt or something. I don't know. I just I have done several other podcasts and have done like merch on all of them and it just the merch becomes a job unto itself that I'm like [laughter] I'm hesitant to do it, to be honest, but I'll I'll put something together, I'm sure. Uh what what are we in? August?

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Jesus [ __ ] Christ. I [snorts] was like, "I'll put something together by the time this year's over." A month This year's almost over, [ __ ] You're almost done now. C Clausen, I would love to see a topic where Mary Lou talks about local candidates in Oklahoma and if any support policies

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[clears throat] she's interested in. Now like universal health care. She would need some prep time I'm sure. Well I mean none of the Republicans do obviously. Yeah I don't know. I mean the the Democratic candidates that are running in especially in [ __ ] Oklahoma. That's one of the reddest states there is. It's like I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure she is not aware of who they even are.

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[snorts] Um Bunkertons gives me 440 joules. I don't know what that is. Unk alert. Yeah. I'm [ __ ] 50 years old. Like sorry.

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[laughter] That's time. You know what? Every [ __ ] person watching this right now, you're going to get unks too. You all will. It's just the facts of life. Eventually [ __ ] starts slipping by you that you don't [ __ ] know who the big musical artists are anymore and you don't know how to pronounce [ __ ] and all the [ __ ] kids using their slang and it just sounds like a foreign language.

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It happens. Sorry. It's going to happen to you too. Ghostface MU Your mom has said before that Israel has comprised compromise sorry Trump. So why does she still support him if in her words it makes Trump a bad president? We asked her that question. We asked her that question on that episode. I want to say that was maybe like four four Sundays ago maybe somewhere around there.

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There was the idea was put forth that like who is really controlling the US actions in this war in Iran? Is it Netanyahu? And cuz she was kind of trying to blame if I remember right she was trying to push the blame on like how bad the war is going on to somebody else that wasn't Trump. And I was like well doesn't that make it even worse if it's like not only is the war going terribly but Trump's not even in control of his own actions?

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And didn't land with her. But I have tried that line of reasoning. Aries dread or maybe Ares dread or Ares dread 2113. Hey chat, look out for my listener question. It's essentially going to say if drug prices are down, which means there's more, how is the border secure? Yeah, that's a good question. We we kind of touched on that a little bit today that it's like his operation southern spear or whatever.

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It didn't work. There's more drugs in the United States now than there were before he just started randomly blowing up [ __ ] on boats. Um but yeah, she'll I'm sure my mom will be like, "It's the northern border. It's Canada." She'll try to put the blame there. Strawberry curls Think I know someone who needs a detailed explanation of what forced feeding is. Okay. Think I know someone who needs a detailed explanation of what forced feeding is.

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All right. I'm not sure who you're implying there, who that person may be. I'm not sure I understand this this um comment exactly. Think I know somebody who needs a detailed explanation of what forced feeding is. Are you saying my mom needs to be force-fed or something? I'm not quite sure I understand this one. Sorry, strawberry curls. Kayla Marie 2962, I definitely felt Haley's frustration earlier with your mom. I too shouting at the TV. Do you think she is regressing some since the death of Jewels?

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Uh you know what? Yeah, that could also be a part of this cuz Jewels was obviously like her mega friend. She referred to her as that multiple times on this show. Maybe there is some um you know, feeling of like needing to uphold loyalty to Jewels through the ideology of mega. That could be a part of this. I think too my dad's rise to power is like affecting her to some degree here.

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Yeah, I don't know. Today's show was definitely a step back. But that said, it's like from everything I have read, which is not an extensive amount, but it's enough to know some things about getting people out of cults, this is common. You make progress and then they have fear about leaving the cult or or whatever, you know. It's like you're never going to get somebody out clean. And if you if you read anything, I remember reading a long article in the LA Weekly. This is many years ago. But, it was about this woman uh written by her. She used to be the effectively like the head of propaganda

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for the Church of Scientology. And she finally like came to her senses and was like, "I'm getting the [ __ ] out of here." And the article was about the kind of ordeal she went through to actually leave the Church of Scientology, which included like some wild [ __ ] like you know, she finally gets out of the actual like physical building, takes a car, nobody knows where she is, shows up at the airport, and then is just surrounded by Scientologists being like, "You Do you really want to do this? Do you really" Like they knew where she was and [ __ ]

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She was like, "Oh my [ __ ] god." But, she in that article talked about um you know, the the process by which she came to the conclusion, "I have to get out of this now." And it was not just like a straight path or a great awakening or anything. It was these little stops and starts and two steps forward and one step back and all of that. Because I I I think that's true of um most big like changes in a person's psychology or ideology. I think they are like that. Every once in a while you'll hear of people having like a revelation

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that changes their life. A lot of people have near-death experiences claim this, for example. But, that is like an extreme version of this because it it's like something where you like literally almost die or do die, in fact, and you know, cross over, see something, whatever. This is something like drastically different. It's It's trying to use logic and our family's connection to just like remind my mom that she's a different person than than the one MAGA has created. And so I don't like begrudge her the steps back. That is a part of this process and I it's one that I'm willing to endure because I

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still think the the final goal will be achieved. We have made great progress toward that over the course of like you know, maybe the past three or four months we've been seeing some real [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] in terms of my mom coming to the right side. And it's like if there's going to be a week here or there or even a month here or there where she regresses a little bit, she's still way better than she was when we started this show. Today she still said I hate eyes, abolish eyes.

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She said that on the show. So it's not like she's completely lost all progress. She's just got a little We hit a bump in the road. We will get through it. I am I firmly believe that. Brad Puetz Hope I'm saying that right. 841. Hey Chad, are you thinking about getting Hasan [ __ ] back the show? He was never on our show. We were on his show and I mean at this point I I think I [laughter] don't think he would come on our show.

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Um he's a little too big. 10 1 Bray Idea [snorts] At the beginning of shows instead of introducing Mary Lou as MAGA, let her introduce herself {slash} affiliation. Maybe one day she'll surprise you. That's an interesting idea. I'll do that next week. Um I'll have each of us say introduce ourselves and our ideologies as we see them. That's an interesting idea. I like that a lot. Thank you.

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Um Justin isn't funny. Has Mary Lou turning babyface been put on [laughter] the prediction sites yet? Any of wins? For those that don't know what a babyface is, it's a professional wrestling reference. Uh babyface is a good guy character basically. And a heel is like a villain. So yeah, Mary Lou is turning a little babyface. Prediction sites, I don't know. Is Is Necessary Conversation on Calshie at this point? I don't know. I doubt it, but uh yeah, she is hopefully going to turn full baby face. Have a nice good run there.

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Mike Stewart 12, have your mom look at Jon Ossoff. He's a more approachable Dem out of Georgia. Yeah, I agree, but he There's all those clips of him like shouting down um God, who was that [ __ ] that he was he was shouting down? It was Trump's DHS head, that new guy, I forget his [ __ ] name now. But, there's that clip of him just [ __ ] roasting that dude. And my mom hates that. My mom hates these clips of like Democrats being mean to Republicans or Trump's appointees at these Senate hearings.

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Um but I agree with you. I think he is a more approachable Dem. Seth Seth Stowes 6374, I don't blame Mary Lou for shutting down. She's being teamed up on yelled at. Then Haley asked Mary Lou why she was yelling. She's yelled at the whole show. Well, I mean, that's what it is. The Necessary Conversation sometimes gets heated. I'm not trying to yell at her. I try to do my best to be like kind of even keel or whatever. But, my mom said some crazy [ __ ] also. Uh let's not forget. Zombies ate my duck. G'day from Sydney. G'day. Drop the skin care

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routine, Chad. [laughter] That's called cancer. You get uh an eighth of your face sliced off after a highly aggressive skin cancer chews through your upper lip, then you go through uh uh a month and a half of radiation. And um this is what you get. This is the product. And then you just stay out of the sun for the rest of your life, basically, never letting it touch your skin. The poison is like that. Will burn you alive.

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Scran Diggy The trick is to remove the whole lid, place it inside the can, and then crush the can closed, and you'll never have to worry about that ever again. What? The trick is Oh, for the can of corn. Uh Yeah. Oh. Well, I mean, I I didn't put the [ __ ] kid I wasn't eating cans of corn. I don't know who the [ __ ] ate that can of corn. It's probably my dad. Uh and then I'm swinging it around like a [ __ ] you know, just some dumb eight, nine, 10-year-old kid. Do do do do do do do. Swinging your [ __ ] trash bag

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around that you're going to go throw in the dumpster. Slice. Yeah, it was brutal. It was really gross. You could see like it cut so [ __ ] deep you could literally see like through the fat under the skin to the knee bone. Like it cut that [ __ ] deep. It was wild. I'd never seen anything like that. And I was scared shitless, which is why I got the washcloth and was like, you know, patting it down.

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[laughter] Trying to just be like, "Oh, whatever. [ __ ] it. I'm fine." Good times. Not the only tin can lid that has injured me, either. I still have, across these two fingers right here, a nasty scar, and I can't feel anything from the scar up. Around that same time, some summer, I was in my friend's backyard. We were playing stickball. I hit a with a broomstick and a tennis ball. I hit the tennis ball over the his backyard fence, and it went to the neighbor's backyard. We didn't have a ball.

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So, I was just kind of like squatting down in the grass, like, "Uh what the [ __ ] are we going to do?" Picking at some grass, and I hear him go, "This could make a good ball." And I look up. This [ __ ] had taken the lid off of a Folgers can and hucked it the metal lid, I mean, not the plastic covering, like the metal lid, and [ __ ] thrown it at me like a Frisbee.

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And I put up my hand to block it. Ding. And it just [ __ ] blood cascading down my arm. And my dad was so [ __ ] pissed cuz I then it was during the summer, and I couldn't put this hand in a baseball glove. And he's like, "You've ruined your whole [ __ ] season." Mike Stewart 12 440 joules uncle alert again. Getting a bunch of uncle alerts and a bunch of these joules that I don't understand.

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Avy Brar 2000. A-list is the way to show her what politicians are actually keeping their promises. Trump Oh, A-list, not A-list. A-list is the way to show her what politicians are actually keeping their promises. Trump has kept one for her. Mondani has kept several for his voters. That is true. Um I'm sure there's got to be some website about that. I'll have a look into that.

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Erase the process one Chad, have you and Haley researched narcissistic traits? Your mother legitimately displays a lot of them. Love the pod as much as I love Soul Ring. Thank you. Um I mean we haven't looked into it like professionally or anything, but yeah, she's got a little bit of that in her. She does. It's true. Brad Poits or Brad Puets 84 841. I don't if you're been paying attention to Wisconsin's primary races Oh, don't know, probably. If you've been paying attention to Wisconsin primary races, but if the DSA candidate wins, do you think that's Democratic Socialists?

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Um wins, do you think the rest of the country will follow along since Wisconsin is a swing state? It's so hard to say, like it's so [ __ ] hard to say. There's so many like crazy things at play in this midterm. Top down for me, it's basically like are the elections free and fair? That's a question that is still in Oh, [ __ ] I forgot about these super chats.

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What time is it? We're 30 minutes in. All right, I'm going to cut off the super chats now. Thank you everybody who has put them in there. I'm going to answer them all, but no more. I understand the implications of my action turning them off. Okay. Um these midterms for me are they're really the canary in the coal mine for how fixed are these elections?

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I think we all suspect uh and quite rightly so based on everything Elon Musk has said and all and all the things Trump has said, you're never going to need to vote again. He knows the elect those voting machines better than anybody. If any Democrat wins in a swing state, that will be very good. That will mean that not only are Democrats winning, but it will mean that the elections are not rigged, or at least they they're their attempt to rig them has failed.

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So, I'm looking at that first. Um if these like hyper-progressive Democratic Socialists win, like is it are they all going to win? I can't I just don't think that'll happen. I don't think that'll happen. Um but I think a few of them might. I think a few of them have a chance here. Mondaire really is like wild to me. And uh seeing El Sayed win his his primary, interesting. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know what the answer is to that. This is going to be a very fascinating midterm, and hopefully, we're going to see a lot of Democrats winning and just piss [clears throat] Trump off, hopefully. Amelia Bedelia 3813 3813. Any interest in having Matt Little running for Congress in Minnesota on the necessary conversation at the start of his run, he invited anyone with opposing views to breakfast with him just have a conversation. Reminds me of the pod.

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Interesting. Yeah, possibly. Um possibly. G- Oh, gin up the base. Since Mary Lou is caught up on civil versus criminal as a line of Trump's guilt or innocence, please ask her if she feels the same way about O.J. Simpson. We did. Um I don't remember when this this first kind I don't remember exactly when it first popped off when she would be like, "Well, it's just a civil case.

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That doesn't mean anything." In terms of this is all referencing the E. Jean Carroll case um that Trump lost. I don't remember, but at some point, I brought up the O.J. Simpson trial. That he was not found criminally guilty, but he was found guilty in a civil case. Does that Do you think that means he wasn't guilty? And she does it. She thinks he killed Nicole Brown. So, it's like, I don't know.

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I It The logic doesn't make sense like ever in the MAGA world, obviously. So, trying to use these I I've tried every kind of version of that where it's like, "Okay, you've said this doesn't matter to you. Well, here's another instance of that. Does it matter to you in that instance?" Yes, it does. Well, then it shouldn't in this. Nope, doesn't fly. Doesn't work. I speak HTML. Can we get a mic check?

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Think it's on webcam. Oh, [ __ ] man. So sorry. Yep, it's on my MacBook. Jesus Christ. Click. There. That should be better. I'm so sorry. God damn it. I'm so sorry. Oh, and this was at 6:09 p.m. You guys have had to suffer through that for 35 minutes. God damn it. My apologies. Um I'm so sorry about that. But it should sound better now. Um bunkertons, I had a thought about Mary Lou taking a step back today. I wonder if Jewel's death is bringing up anger in her, which might bring out more of the MAGA BS. I find the MAGA movement fosters anger. Hey, yeah, I think that's

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completely valid and probably correct. Um you know, that there's a lot I think tied to in kind of MAGA ideology irrational emotion, fear, anger, jealousy, blah blah blah. The list go Like basically every bad human emotional impulse. And um you know, I think probably my mom is like feeling the the anger, the sorrow, the all those things. And when emotions are high, I think people are more easily manipulated by ideologies like MAGA. And so, yeah, I think you're right on the money there. I think that probably does have something to do with it, too.

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Dieters gone wild. Dieter diddy of the week. If you had to serve in Trump's cabinet, life [clears throat] or death, you have to, but can pick what you do, what would you do? God damn, that's a good one. I mean, right now I'm going Secretary of Defense. I'm taking over Hex set's job so that I would just like end the war. But generally speaking, if we're not in wartime, man, that's a tough one.

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I Secretary of State's pretty hard to beat. I probably go Secretary Secretary of State cuz I think you have the most like influence over [ __ ] Um Yeah, I'd probably go Secretary of State. But I, like I said, right now, Secretary of Defense just because I think What in the [ __ ] is this? Sheebs 1986 250 joules laughing disco. I don't know what any of this [ __ ] is. I am unked.

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Greg Kinnear speaking third person, try suddenly asking Mary Lou where in the Bible it commands for an abortion to be done. Cuz it does. What? Numbers 5:11-14:26-28. Just blew her god damn mind. Say what now? Hang on a minute. Let me let me find some of this stuff. Bible Numbers 5:11 14 26-28. Let me just Passage in the Old Testament of the Bible describes

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[snorts] an ancient ritual often called the test for an unfaithful wife or the ordeal of bitter water. The ritual is used when a husband suspects his wife of adultery but had no witnesses. What? What it say? This is the the quote. And if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure, then he cool.

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Then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an epha of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on her or put incense on it because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder offering to draw attention or on doing. The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord.

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Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar. Put some dust from the tabernacle on the floor into the water and after the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the remain rem- reminder offering. The grain offering for jealousy, blah blah blah, put water shall put the woman under oath. I don't see anything about an abortion in here.

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Writing curses on a scroll. I'm sorry, I don't see anything about an abortion in here. Um moving on. Haley starts 1393. I was so upset and angry about how Mary Lou was acting today that I freaked out and yelled at my co-worker then cried about it like What was her attitude about? Well, [ __ ] I'm sorry. Um that that happened to you. Like I said, I to me it's like

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[snorts] it's just part of this process. I have expected that something like this would happen. We were making such good progress and my expectation was that we would take some back steps here. Um but it doesn't deter me. If anything, it's encouraging because I know that like the back steps have to happen to get to the final goal. So it's like, all right, we have some back steps now, we overcome them, we move on and we get to that final goal. It just means that we are closer to the final goal in my opinion.

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So, try not to be um too worked up about it. If you can, I mean, I look honestly at everything like this in life as this is just one step closer to the final goal of death, obviously. But, you know, whatever goals you have in life that have to occur over a time period, everything that happens to you leading up to that is one step closer to it, even if that thing is bad. That's how you got to look at it, in my opinion.

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Caroline Ferguson, 8,000. We already know this, but why don't they see the politician and Fox News anchor graveyard? Shouldn't that be proof enough to them he doesn't care? Who? Proof enough to who? The other politicians or to my mom? Because the other politicians get like I I can't imagine signing up with him. Like, it's a deal with the devil, you know what I mean? If you become a part of his cabinet or you're any part of his like inner circle or or like Caroline Levitt as press secretary, whatever. Any of these people who like work for him and are doing his bidding, lying for

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him, killing for him, whatever. Once you like cross that threshold, J.D. Vance is a good example. Jesus Christ. Once you're like, yep, I'm part of the Trump team now, that's it. You're [ __ ] If you ever want to leave it, you're going to have to completely turn against him. And once you do, he's going to wreck you. He has so much power now, so much control over everything. Can't be uh prosecuted for crimes at all because of his his uh people that he put on the Supreme Court.

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Can't be audited for taxes. You know, the list goes on and on. And so, it's like he's immune to all this [ __ ] So, if you want to go against him, if you want to leave, once you've gotten in, you're just [ __ ] It's bizarre to me um that everybody keeps saying, yeah, let's get on this train. I think they're they're like with J.D. Vance specifically, but a lot of those politicians. Marco Rubio is like this.

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Hegseth, I don't think will have a job in politics. He's going to go back to Fox News after all this. But like Rubio will still be around. I think JD Vance will probably still be around in this. Stephen Miller will try to hang on. There's a bunch of those people that are in the the like high high tier of Maga that are going to exist in politics in some capacity after this after Trump leaves.

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[clears throat] And all of them are trying I think to like ride it out. Just like smile, say what he wants you to say, ride it out. Then as soon as he's gone, they're going to revert back to whatever they want to be doing. I don't know if that works though. I don't know if people's memories are like short enough. Maybe they are that they can just like forgive everything that these people did during the Trump administration. I don't know.

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Astro 96X, I hope you loved gallivanting. I did. You had some information wrong during today's podcast. So I did. You your first podcast wasn't just you and Mary Lou. Bob was yelling from the other room the whole time. I remember that cuz he he was getting jealous. And that ultimately is what led him to come on the podcast. He was like, "If you're going to do it with your [ __ ] mom, I'm going to be on it too."

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Um and then if I remember right, the first three episodes were me and my mom was episode one. I think me and my dad was episode two. It might have been me and my sister was episode two. Then me and my dad was episode three. I think that's how it went. Then episode four was the whole family. And uh that's how we've done it ever since.

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Kimberly Scarecrow, maybe. Did Mary Lou reach her goal of not watching Newsmax for 2 weeks? It feels like her news diet slid back to what it was a few weeks ago. I think that's right, but it's also because like I'm saying, my dad is in that living room now and they have a nurse that's there like 24 hours a day, rotating shifts. But um he as he's becoming like more coherent again and watching Newsmax and [ __ ] I feel like he's sucking her back into it. I don't see any way around that. I think that is what's happening.

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Dan C 8388, just started watching Doozy. Oh, thank you. Loving it. Great. I want to shake your hand. I want to shake your hand. Also, hope your dad gets better soon, but personally prefer the show without him.

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[laughter] Yeah, I mean, look, I hope he gets better, too. I honestly miss him on the show. And the thing that's been happening with my mom, like we have had no reaction from him on the show. I am very curious to know what he thinks about my mom other than what she's telling me, you know, saying [ __ ] ICE and that she wants universal health care.

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So, I'm happy to have him back cuz I have some questions to ask him. Like the tattooer, does Mary Lou think that billionaires will be taxed back into the middle class? And if so, does she think middle class income isn't enough to live off of? Yeah, I don't know. I don't My dad has that same kind of like protect the billionaires attitude. I just don't understand it. Like to me, if you are a billionaire, I just don't think it should be allowed, personally.

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I think there should be laws in place that basically cap anyone's uh personal net worth. Let's even be generous. Let's say $100 million. That that you can do anything you want with that. Once you start going over that amount of money, you're now getting into territory where it's like, okay, I'll build a [ __ ] rocket ship and fly into space. I'll control elections. I'll [ __ ] do whatever I want on like a scale that is reshaping humanity. That I don't think should be allowed. So, if I was uh you know, in control of anything, could pass laws and stuff, I would put a flat cap on all personal

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net worth at $100 million. And I would have it so that corporations cannot pay for things like houses and boats and expenses and all that kind of [ __ ] so that you couldn't [ __ ] with that system either. You couldn't like trick around it. And if you make any money over that, all of that money would go into a fund and it would be redistributed among everybody in America who is like at the lower end of the income level provided that they have some job. This would just be like a stipend that they get. A a little booster or whatever, a subsidy if you

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will, for the working class of America. I just don't see like why anyone needs more than a hundred million dollars. I don't even see why anyone needs a hundred million dollars, honestly. But like fine, if we want to have this idea of a luxury class in America and some people have enough money to like live in giant houses and drive big car, whatever. Fine. That's still enough money to do that.

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And uh it just doesn't [ __ ] society in the way we're seeing now. This is how I do it. Um Arizona Mountain Girl, I think the reason that your mom identifies more with the poor rich New Yorkers is because none of this is really touching her income bracket. Yeah, and and my parents are like my dad's retired. They have what money they have. They're living off of the interest from it, you know. I I don't think like their lifestyle is never going to change.

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in any real capacity. And so I think they are they're they're completely unaffected by it. Like my mom only drives to the um barn to ride Tiny. That's like her her only time she's ever putting gas in the car. It's to gas that car up and that's that's not a lot. You know, they buy groceries and stuff and those prices have gone up a little bit but not enough to affect them really at their bottom line.

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And because they're both retired, it's like they don't have to continue working for income. So yeah, they they are unaffected by it. And I I think she misses kind of like what is really going on because of that. Gin and Tonic missed you and the show while you were gallivanting. Welcome back. Thank you very much. Good to be back. Yogo what's your impression of Trump's effect on America's image abroad? From outside the US it seems its reputation and goodwill have declined. Would be interested in Mary Lou's view, too, from Australia.

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Yeah, we talked about this We've talked about this in a couple of episodes over the last few months, especially where the Iran war is concerned and his kind of like stupidity in terms of um cuz it's not just like our our [ __ ] in America prices are going up for sure, but it's global because that straight that shut down gets oil to everyone. So, I mean I fully understand that the opinion of of Trump and America abroad is real bad and it's like trying to get my mom to understand that. I think my mom and my dad both are still kind of locked in

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this fantasy world of the '80s where you know, it's like Top Gun and Sylvester Stallone and Rambo and America was like this big awesome muscle-bound [ __ ] country that was the coolest thing in the world. I think they're still living in that fantasy, which was by the way a fantasy even then. But, the it at least the fantasy of like prosperity in the '80s seemed more real.

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Now it's obvious that it's not. It's I mean every [ __ ] European country is basically like trying to distance themselves from our country, from our um alliance with them. So, I mean we've talked to my mom about that that the the kind of uh reputation of America has definitely taken a huge backslide as a result of Trump. She doesn't see it that way, though.

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Better than 98 I work for NPS and have seen effects of rampant wildfires. NPS National Park Services? Meanwhile, Trump administration slashes funds for Department of Interior and FEMA services, etc. It's like he sees problems and wonders how he can make them worse. Yeah. Well, it's not I don't even think that it's it's like he sees problems and wonders how he can make them worse. He sees money and he's like, how can I divert money from things that I don't give a [ __ ] about personally into things that will make me money. So, National Parks and Services, he's like, I don't give a [ __ ] about that. Take all

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that money. Department of Education, take all that money. Reroute that into government contracts for my billionaire friends who are going to give me kickbacks. Ramp up the war machine. Let's give all the [ __ ] money to like all this these uh tariff refunds and [ __ ] It It's absolutely [ __ ] insane what's happening. M- Murm- MurmurVGT MRMBGT27 Today was particularly hard to watch for so many reasons. Mary Lou, a woman, mother of a daughter, grandmother of females, cannot speak against abortion.

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Um she did speak against abortion. She She's not for abortion. What does it take? Another personal experience? Ugh. Uh yeah, I I mean, that that there was like part of the religious thing for my mom. Which again, I mean, my sister says this all the time and I I concur. I don't think my parents are actually particularly religious, but that is a part of the identity of being a good Christian is that you have to be anti-abortion.

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Um or pro-life, you know, however you want to put it. The She's never wavered on that. I don't think she ever will. I I think that's like it's kind of a pointless conversation to have with my mom. I think even in the event of some kind of personal experience like you know, one of my nieces or something, I don't think it would change my mom's mind.

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Ursula Honey How about Jesus Christ, my eyes. How about the conditions for our sailors on the ships? I read some of this [ __ ] That That narrowly missed the list today. Moldy toilets, no food or clean water, no basic necessities, and long extended time at sea. Of course, it's not Haz Best's fault. I read an article about that today or yesterday, sorry, that was about um basically like the psychological condition of all these uh service members that are at sea on these boats with these horrible [ __ ] conditions. They're like going crazy and nobody's reporting on this [ __ ] But

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that is also because of I I read another article this week that was talking about how um CBS is basically like mega at this point. They're not reporting on anything. They're firing reporters who want to like talk about [ __ ] like this. It's [ __ ] wild. But I think that story is going to get very bad because that story's been going on for a couple of months and it is just seeming to get worse and worse and worse and worse. And I don't know how long they can like hide it from mainstream media. We'll see.

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Snixeby, Snixeby, Snixebaya. I don't know how to pronounce that. 200 joules, jamming. Thank you. [laughter] I don't know what any of this is. Joy Rider 1,000 joules, corgi. Okay. Thank you. Pesky Cat 42, Danny DeVito should play your dad.

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[laughter] You know, there was at some point Uh God, I forget what this was in reference to. But Danny DeVito played a character on um It's Always Sunny where he was like pretending to be this art critic named I forget the Craig's name. But he wore this wig. It was like a white wig that had like kind of a long bowl cut and he had glasses on like my mom and it looks kind of like my mom's hair do. And people I forget what episode this was, but people sent me so many [ __ ] memes of that and sent [laughter] this to your

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mom. That [ __ ] made me laugh so [ __ ] hard. Um but yeah, Danny DeVito for my dad would be great. Snick Sabia gives me a gold coin. Thank you. No idea what this is. Hutton Farm When you say let's move on after your mom says a non sequitur it allows her to quote win tariff talk today. Also, where is Mary Lou apology for her transphobic remarks on Michelle Obama? You promised months ago please that was cray. God damn it. I keep forgetting that. Sorry.

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Um The reason I say let's move on after she says a non sequitur is because I know the non sequitur means she's done with that conversation. The alternative is what? I just browbeat her? She's not going to change her mind. Um like the tariff talk today as you're saying, you know what I mean? There's no like I think part of this conversation for me at least has been learning my mom's communication patterns and learning like where is the exact line I can get to before I cross it and turn her off completely and she's just [ __ ] out.

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Because a piece of like having the conversation is learning how to keep my mom engaged in it. And so that means like knowing exactly where the line is that I can get to before if I step over it she's [ __ ] gone. And that's why I do that. That's why I move on to the next conversation. I think I've gotten good at being able to tell when she's like had enough and and that has to be a piece of this too. You can't like a person who is in a cult you cannot just keep [ __ ] pressing pressing pressing pressing pressing. You

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have to push a little bit pull a little bit and then you have to kind of gauge where they're at with the conversation and and it's got to be on their terms. I'm not in the [ __ ] cult. I don't need to be removed from the cult. She does and that's a slow steady process that has to be done very gently. You can't just be like [ __ ] you. Why are you saying let's move on? Let's keep talking about this." It won't work.

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Um but I agree with you about the transphobic remarks about Michelle Obama. I will try to remember that for next week. My apologies. DNFS75, Abdul El-Sayed stated he is not a socialist, but a capitalist. He is pretty much a Scandinavian social democrat. Mary Lou should approve, but he's brown. Yeah, exactly. When she's like, "He's just like Mom Donny!" Oh, why is that, Mom? Exactly. That's That's the basis, I think, of the hatred for him.

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Carolyn Ferguson 8000, I've been in C with my parents. No contact, I think. I've been no contact with my parents for 5 years. They're just like your parents, but my mom is like your dad. Do you ever get mad when people say awful things about your parents? No. Um no. No, I don't. Because I think like my kind of crash course in the nature of parasocial relationships was from my other podcast, one of my other podcasts called Game of Roses, where we deal we talk about reality television as a sport. Um primarily Bachelor and the love games.

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At a certain point because of that podcast, I really got into the idea of like a lot of these reality players will get death threats and [ __ ] on Bachelor and and because people will think like whatever villain edit they're getting in the show is real and that the person is a real piece of [ __ ] and so people will light them up.

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And I was always like, "This is [ __ ] wild. Like people can't understand what they're seeing is not real. It's just a a small snapshot, especially in those shows where it's so edited and so pushed for like a purposeful narrative that the producers feel is going to be satisfying and stuff." But it's like riling people up enough that they will say this mean [ __ ] So I understood like, you know, at kind of a base level, um people are like easily trapped into having these very strong emotional reactions and firing off super negative comments toward whoever because there's also a level of anonymity and it's like,

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you know, a person saying like, "Fuck you. [ __ ] your mom. She's a piece of shit." Fired off. That makes them feel good in that moment. Like some kind of self-righteous justification has been triggered and now they get their dopamine hit. And that that's like what the kind of negative side of the internet is. But I know for me that it doesn't affect how I feel about my mom or how my mom feels about me or how I feel about us having this conversation or anything.

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Um nor do I feel the need to like justify to any of those people making those comments like, "You don't know my parents." I know that they don't. You know, and I know that this is like a a parasocial kind of thing. The our show is this 1-hour conversation that we're having about politics and obviously our own uh family dynamics and and certain events in our lives and stuff seep into it as well, but the comments aren't like that's just the internet, you know. It's like go on [ __ ] Reddit. Go on like a Bachelor subreddit or a Love Island subreddit. Jesus Christ. Like they want

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people to be killed for whatever they've done in in service of this like weird reality dating show where they're twerking on each other and having goop like [ __ ] you know, shot on them out of cannons and stuff. And people are like, "Oh, this is a piece of [ __ ] This [ __ ] deserves to die." It's just like the nature of the internet. Does not bother me at all.

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Chicken9665: I also don't get how Trump, Musk, Tate, etc. have become the epitome of masculinity to the right-wingers recently. They're massive losers. Scotland. I agree. That to me is like the um it's one of the weirdest things in the MAGA movement is this like projection of this hyper alpha male masculinity. And the guys they have doing that, like that Pete Hegseth [ __ ] trying to do like chin-ups and lifting weights with Marines and stuff.

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Who's watching that being like, now that's a tough guy. They're such losers as you're saying and I don't get how it's like [laughter] that they kind of co-opted that thing of like what is true masculinity and the image of it that they're trying to represent or that thing with [ __ ] RFK like lifting weights with Kid Rock without a shirt on it's just like what the [ __ ] is going on and I don't remember you if you remember this was Speaker of the House Paul Ryan God was he Trump's first administration?

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He had some video or pictures come out of him with a backwards baseball cap like lifting hand weights like looking at the camera it was it was literally like a like a stage photo thing like like he wanted these photos taken of himself he posed for them to look tough or like a cool guy or whatever. I don't get it. I literally do not understand it at all.

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Tito balls too. Would you ever consider doing modern quote futility of life conversations with your current beliefs philosophy? Also what kind of music do you listen to? Who me? Um Lately it's been some hard rock. A little bit of classic rock. What kind of music do you listen to? Futility of life for those who don't know was a weird little offshoot thing that I would do when I was doing it old podcast with a dear friend of mine two dear friends of mine Tommy Blotch and Will Sasso called 10-minute podcast. On that podcast I would occasionally just go out into the world and I basically invited

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anyone to say email me and I will bring a little recorder and we will sit down and have a multiple hour conversation over lunch or something about the futility of life. I don't know how many of those little episodes that I did they're out there you can find them I'm sure. Uh certainly my viewpoint on fundamental reality has changed since then and I don't like futility of life you know what that actually means to me is that this thing we're in is not all there is.

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That has always kind of been the case. Or I won't say it's always been the case. I won't say that's true actually cuz for a long time I think I was like a hardcore materialist and indeed I thought this was all there is and when you die that's it, you know, nothing else. I certainly don't don't think that now. I've had many personal experiences that lead me to that conclusion and um I think we can all feel it. Something's coming apart here. Something weird is happening. I don't know how like down the rabbit hole anyone is with the Mandela effect and CERN and all of that,

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but like just everything that we're learning about kind of like deeper layers of reality, whether it's through human consciousness or particle physics or whatever, it it all points in a direction of something else is going on here than than simply what we can see, taste, touch, hear, and feel. So, uh yeah, I don't know. I don't know what how that conversation would go if I if I did another kind of series of things like that where I just go have lunch with a random person and like talk to them about their life and, you know, doesn't matter what you're doing and why are you doing what

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you're doing and all that. I think it probably would go very differently, honestly. I don't know that I would I don't view life as um futile, I suppose, in the same way, if you want to say it, but those episodes are out there if you want to go check it out. Andrew Ackerman, 440 joules. Uncle alert. Once again, I'm getting so many uncle alerts tonight. Mungertons, I'm 40, so I'm on my way to unk town, too.

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You know when unk started hitting me? 40 eight. It's 47, 48. It it almost directly coincided with my eyes getting bad. [laughter] I remember the first time like my eyesight has always been [ __ ] literally perfect. I can see [ __ ] a mile away. I can read [ __ ] this [ __ ] close to my face. It's always been fantastic. Then it just started going. First one eye, then the other. Now like I I got to hold [ __ ] away to be able to read it and stuff, you know, super unk. And I feel like my kind of misunderstanding of contemporary

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colloquialisms and how the kids are talking and all that [ __ ] started going down the tubes at almost the exact same time my eyesight did. There it's a one-to-one ratio. Captain Goku 2280. Hey Chad, it's Captain Goku 2280 again. Hi. Have you heard of a new deadly fungus can grow deep into hair follicles and rewire the immune system and transform human skin? The article is in the New York Post. Oh, Jesus. No.

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Cool. One more one more great thing to be afraid of. Controlone. Control one, probably. Chad, love the pod. While you're gallivanting, did you get a sense of how Trump is viewed abroad? No. I had no conversations with anyone about Trump while abroad. Um No. [laughter] Honestly, it was hard to even like look at American news abroad. I mean, obviously I had the internet and stuff, so I just went on American websites to like see how it was being covered, but um Yeah, I I was only in two places though.

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I was in Paris and Amsterdam. Neither of those places, at least in the areas that I was in and the things I was doing, had anything to do with Trump or American politics or anything like that. And it was hot as [ __ ] That much I can tell you. D Mooney, California 324. Your mom siding with the billionaires was wild. Agreed. Also, the fact that she thinks she is still getting the 2K check.

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[laughter] I know. I just keep [ __ ] bringing up that that 2K check. I'm like, you're never going to get that [ __ ] It's insane to me that she's still like holding out hope. The the money that is being paid to all these corporations for these tariff-free funds, like that's your $2,000 check. He's giving it to them. It's already done now. Ugh. Um Greg Kinnear speaks in third person.

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Please Nick Cage would be Bob. That's a very interesting one. Very interesting one. Or Mike Thank you very much. I speak HTML. Discord guy here. Oh, hello Discord guy. Sent you an email about merch. Oh, cool. I'll check that out. Necessary conversation, I assume. You sent it to Um I will check that out. Andrew Rackermann's giving me another uncle alert. Okay. Now this is getting absurd. Mike Stewart 6'7. I know 6'7.

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Perpy per- perky pop psych cycle Bob's health is declining and Jules has passed. Ask Mary Lou how she wants to be remembered. Hateful cult member or have love and grace.

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[laughter] Mom Uh Jules died and dad is declining. How do you want to be rem- remembered? Hateful cult member or love and grace? I'm not sure that'll be a good um line of logic on her but I'm I am sure like mortality I mean [ __ ] I remember when I was going through cancer treatment. Not that I care about like how I want to be in quotes remembered per se, but like the idea of mortality, the Grim Reaper staring you in the face it was ever present during cancer treatment. Um I myself like luckily the cancer did not spread anywhere else in my body, but

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going through radiation I lost 50 lb or something in the course of a month and a half. I was down to like 135 lb. Which is like I had I don't think I weighed that since junior high, you know. And look like a skeleton. I remember one day one of my friends came over and I I hadn't seen her like since I you know started getting into the like real deep end of it and I opened the door and she just started [ __ ] crying by looking at me. That's never good. Um so yeah, I I think mortality does interesting things to how you view the

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world and certainly emotionally, you know, how it impacts you and stuff and I think my mom is dealing with that for sure. Hunt and fam, Hunt and Farm, sorry. The other week y'all were discussing Epstein and Mary Lou brought up something completely unrelated and frivolous, California driver's license. Please watch out for that. Don't let her deflect, especially on topics that are her red lines. Oh, her red lines, maybe.

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Uh I don't remember that specifically, but I will try to do um the my my best to not let that happen. D Mooney California 324, I just saw the pilot. What pilot? Oh, for um Southern Comfort, probably. I think it's on the internet somewhere, uh link to it or whatever. V, I hope you enjoyed it. Um the the story of that pilot, by the way, let me put it back on here so I don't mess up.

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It was [ __ ] wild. I had just made a the prior year, I made my first network pilot with a buddy of mine, Will Sasso. We co-created the show called um Waiting to Die, and we made that pilot. It had T.J. Miller in it, it had Josh Gad in it. God damn, that thing was funny. Um and then they threw it in the trash in favor of that year at CBS, Jenna Elfman, I think, had a pod or a show called Accidentally on Purpose that lasted like five episodes and then they canceled it.

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And that was it. They only put one show on the air that year. Um but everybody loved that pilot and people were like, "Oh, [ __ ] what's next from him?" So, I sold that show the next year, the Southern Comfort one. And ABC proceeded to fire my showrunner and put these two guys on it as showrunners who wrote The Smurfs. Terrible. They rewrote the whole pilot, unbeknownst to me at the time, but after we, maybe a year or two after we did it, I was sitting down and just I was like curious I wanted to watch the pilot for Family Ties.

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And as I was watching I was like, holy [ __ ] Those two guys literally plagiarized Family Ties. The pilot they rewrote was just Family Ties laid over my pilot. I couldn't [ __ ] believe it and I was like I was so pissed. I was like, God, I wish I would have known that at the time. I could have just blown them up and got them kicked off the pilot. But yeah, it was a horrible experience. Um they turned it into a massive piece of [ __ ] and then they threw it away and that was that.

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But I hope you enjoyed it. Virose Jones, Jimmy Snow and the line collab. I've no idea what that means. Sorry. Sharmike 08 2009 spending time watching Newsmax with Bob. Okay. Uh Kayla Murray 2962, I can't do your dad's politics personally. I love it when it's just you three and your mom seems more receptive to hear you both on things without him. I agree. But I am curious about my dad's return to the show. Will he be the same type of person? Like talking about mortality and all that [ __ ] This [ __ ] has been through some [ __ ] He [ __ ]

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literally died. My dad died and came back to life uh in the span of these last however many months. You know, like I I can't imagine that doesn't change your perspective a little bit. Soften you maybe? I I dare I say that about my own father. But um I don't know. I I I'm curious. I don't think things will be exactly the same. I don't think they can be after this.

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DOC Dismay 7657 1000 jewels goat trophy. Thank you. Holly Holly Lane? I think that's right. What are your thoughts on Harry Jowsey's new show? I just [ __ ] finished watching all the episodes that are out. Seven episodes are out. The eighth episode comes out in 3 days, the finale. How do you even put this into words? Alex Cooper, who is the host of Call Her Daddy, has a production company. She now makes reality shows. She made this one, Let's Marry Harry. It's on Netflix.

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Um She also made Love Overboard. Gabby Windey, who was a a Traitors winner and a Bachelor player who made it to the penultimate round on her season and is extremely talented, extremely funny. Alex Cooper finds a way, somehow, in all of her shows to make these electric reality stars completely boring and shitty. I don't get it. I I think it's one of the worst um dating series I've ever seen. It was shot over a year ago. We already know the outcome. So, that kind of like plays into it a little bit. It's just boring. I was just bored to tears through the whole thing. And it doesn't

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even look good. It's low-rent. They all of like the little compatibility challenges are just like out in the front yard of that house they're staying at. I think it's very bad. That's my two cents. I hope you're enjoying it. Auntie Cecily Hiding, 10 jewels. Thank you. Uh two more little things here. Two more questions. Joy Teeful, I'm so sorry to hear Mary Lou lost her horse, jewels.

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The No, her horse lives. Jewels is a person. However, Mary Lou's view of Turdy Blanchey is unreal. I agree. Just to clarify here, Jewels is her human friend that died tragically. It is not a horse. Sharmike is our final question, 082009. Backsliding, watching Newsmax with Bob. Yeah, she backslid a little bit today. As I said, these things are going to happen. Um, it's part of this process. And so, for me, it it's like I don't begrudge her that, especially in this week, you know, or a couple weeks. The thing she really a couple months, let's let's be honest. Like from my dad's first kind of

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like decline in health to him literally dying and coming back. Her best friend died. Like she's been through a lot of [ __ ] And if she finds some comfort in a little bit of a backslide, that's fine. I have no problem with that whatsoever. We will continue to have the conversation. We will continue to get her to where she needs to be. And right now, that backslide may be a little bit of comfort to her in a time where like [ __ ] is really rough in her life. So, like I said, I don't begrudge her that at all.

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Um, I don't I'm not even disappointed in it. It's like, you know, would I like it to be the other way? Of course. But it ain't. And that's fine. And we will continue to have that conversation to get her to the end, to get her to the [ __ ] the final goal. That is still going to happen. Um, thank you everybody who has joined me tonight. Thank you for watching the show today. I'll be back on Wednesday with somebody. I don't [ __ ] [laughter] know. My sister probably ain't going to be the one. Uh, so it'll probably be me and my mom

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talking about uh, I'm not sure what yet. Uh, what we have a couple of days in news still to watch and see what comes out. But, uh, once again, thank you for joining me. Thanks to everybody who's like going back and watching Dudesy or 10-minute podcast or I can't believe somebody watched Southern Discomfort. That's pretty wild. But, thanks for all of that. Thanks for the the continued support on the show. And I will see y'all on Wednesday.