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Will The Big Beautiful Bill Pass The Senate?

May 25, 2025 1h 02m 10,117 words automatic
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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culin. With me is my mom and dad. Oh god. Mom, you got a flag there. Is that for Memorial Day? I'm trying to place it so we can all see it. There we go. Okay, there we go. I guess we'll get into why you're holding that flag momentarily. My sister joins us this week. Welcome back. Hello. Hello. What? Hi. Hi. Are you okay? Where were you? What'd you do? I went to Boston to help one of my former employees. Uh, she graduated from Boston University and we had to pack her up and get her ready to move to New York City. Oh, that's fun. Was it successful? How are you doing? What's going on? Yeah, it was a long trip with like, you know, packing somebody's entire [ __ ] existence. Yep. And like getting her ready to move to another city was a lot. It was a lot. She needed help, so we went and helped her. All right, mom and dad, how are you doing? What's nice? What? We're doing fine. We're here. Happy Memorial Day. That's why I have my flag. You want me to talk about it? Starting off with a bang. Yeah. Mommy, do you have a a diddy? Did you guys know that it's Memorial Day weekend? Yes. Or care? Uh, Chad Haley, it doesn't affect me much. I don't really like holidays. Yeah, I don't know. We're not open at the bakery ever on Mondays. I'm working on Monday. Me, too. Okay. Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States that honors the military personnel who have died while saving your asses and serving our country. This is the reason that you have freedom in the United States. And it's for all the soldiers, men, and women who have lost their lives for you, me and dad. That's what Memorial Day is. And it's Monday. But you guys don't celebrate it, right? I mean, no, I'm not for war or military. I I It's tragic anybody who's lost their life in any capacity, let alone in waging wars for the ultra rich, to maintain control over human society. But you like your freedom, right? Of course. You like running your mouth. I like running my mouth. I like running my mouth, by the way. Like you guys don't run your mouths. That's why we have freedoms. Uhhuh. Yeah. We contributed to it. You didn't. And if you guys don't want to We have What? What? We contributed to your freedom. You didn't. I don't know. We have family members that did serve, but they didn't lose their lives while service. Um, my father served, dad's father served, um, our uncle's um, dad himself. But like, but like I said, they didn't lose their lives. So I would like to honor the 13 at Abbey Gate that did lose their lives during the Biden Harris administration that pulled out of Afghanistan in the worst history of the United States ever. In the worst history of the United States. Worse than the civil war. I mean in the whole in the whole administration of any president that has ever served the way he worist. That's worse than the civil war in your mind. Yes, it is. Yeah, the way he did it. Yes, it is. Okay. All right. Well, we are starting off the bang then, I guess. All right. Do you have any other diddies? Have you guys ever been to Washington? Have you guys ever been to DC and like see probably more than you more than you have, honey buns? Okay. I was going to say I think that you would enjoy it. I think he would really enjoy DC. There was no enjoy sitting around saving space so they could play softball at 5:00. What? What are you talking about? I've been to I've been to Washington DC more than you can count on your hands and feet. Okay. I just simply saying and I'm just simply saying every time I went there just a bunch of [ __ ] dead beats sitting around saving space so they could play their [ __ ] softball games at 5:00. But now I've been to all those memorials and I've never I've never considered myself patriotic. Um but like when you stand there I don't consider you patriotic either. Okay. Well, I think mom would like it. It's sad to me that you guys don't you're not patriotic to the country that you live in and we live in. When it comes to DC, Haley, you haven't been there near as much as I Okay, that's We're done with that question. Well, she think she thinks she knows more than me about Washington DC. No, she's [ __ ] Okay, no one ever said that. Why do you Hang on a minute. Dad, why do you Wait, Mom. Mom, hang on. Shut up. Hang on a minute. Hang on. Can you guys hear me? What's going on over there? Now you're fighting. Dad, I want to ask you this question. You immediately took that to this confrontational adversarial level that was like she thinks she knows more than me. Haley immediately took it to confrontation saying that oh I haven't been to DC enough to know anything about it. I didn't last time you went. I've been there at least 10 or 15 times more than she has. I simply asked, have you been to DC? Because if you haven't, I think you'd enjoy it. Okay. Yeah, I enjoyed it. What? I just don't understand why you guys don't have patriotism for a country that you live in. Haley, tell me why. I want universal health care. I want reproductive health care. I want people not to be uh disappeared on the street. I want to be able to send my kids to school without being shot. Do you want me to keep going on? I I want to be able to buy a house that's not a half a million dollars. Uh I like I could go on forever. You can buy houses that aren't half a million dollars. No, you can't. Oh, yes you can. Oh my god. In my suburb, like a three-bedroom, two-b home right now is like almost $450,000. And most people can't afford that. But you have a home and you live in a nice house, but not everyone has. You have food on your table. You can say anything you want to, which obvious you do. We've seen the thing that you don't understand is that as a collective, human beings cannot afford to live in this country anymore. Human beings cannot afford health care. They cannot afford. So how do 360 million of them live here? In poverty. Oh, they're in poverty. Who's in poverty? Nobody's in poverty. Who's in poverty? There are people I know directly that cannot live in a home without a roommate or two. Well, that's they need to go and get a different job. Dad, you said nobody's in poverty. You think That's right. In the world or in America? In America. So, you think there is no one living in poverty in America? Not Not that's not self-imposed. Interesting. All right. If you're broke, if you're broke living on the street in this country, it's because that's what you want to be. All right. No, I disagree. It's Well, that's fine. You can disagree. I I think some of it has to do with um like Biden didn't take care of our veterans. They didn't take care of people that needed help. Uh FEMA embezzled all the money. Didn't help people when disasters happened. That's what I think. Donald Trump embezzled the money. Yeah, Donald Trump's trying to dismantle it. All right, look, our our show is already off the rails. Mom, do you have a diddy or not? Because we have to begin the show. Begin the show by all means. That my diddy was happy Memorial Day weekend that you guys don't celebrate, but dad and I sure do. And that's fine. Happy Memorial Day to everybody who and I'm saluting the 13 soldiers that died at Abbeby Gate. All right, that I just spoke to a lady at the bakery who has a daughter who's in the military and they stationed her over in another country and she expressed her daughter being embarrassed that she has to fight for the country that this has become. And there is a growing population in the military that there is a growing population in the military that absolutely detests the fact that they are fighting for the country that this has become. Not what they signed up for. That's why recruitment's up 100% from last year. That's what I'm going to say. That's why Trump uh gave the speech. That's why there's more people trying to get into the military than has been in decades. I don't agree with that at all. I Well, it's not true. Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. Okay. All right. Let's move on. We begin our program every week with a question from a listener. If you'd like to submit a question, just record it in a one minute or shorter video format and send it to the necessary conversation podgmail.com. Are you ready for the question? Mom, I'm getting my notes. Yes, I had to get notes. Ready? I prepared. As did I. Here we go. Family, uh, my name's Carter. I'm from South Dakota. And I'll keep it really simple. I just have a really quick question without talking about Biden, Obama, Trump or any other political figure. Just define communism. Uh just so we got a baseline of what these accusations are. Thanks, guys. All right. So, there have been many accusations levied against me and Haley primarily by you, Dad, that we are communists. So, we're going to start with you, Dad. What is communism? Communism is where everybody gets paid the same or gets the same benefits as everybody else regardless of what you do for a living. Regardless communism has no payment regard Do I get to finish or you just going to talk? Well, I'm just going to correct you on a point that you were completely wrong on. That's all. No, I'm not. You're asking me what I think communism is. Okay. You don't have a right or wrong here, mister. You 100% do. But uh No, you don't. Okay. All right. Well, I'm done. How now? You made me lose my train of thought, so there's no point in going on. Oh, okay. Mom, what do you think communism is? You communist. Sorry I interrupted. Look in the [ __ ] mirror. Look in the [ __ ] mirror and you'll see a communist. Okay. I wish he wouldn't call you that because I don't think you are communist. I think they are. No. Why? I don't understand. Because everything they believe is communism. Hang on a minute, Dad. Let me ask you this, though, before we get into mom's definition. Asking me. I'm going to ask you. No, I'm going to ask you question one time and then when you open your [ __ ] pie hole and start interrupting me, you're done asking me. Okay, but you interrupt everybody. Whatever. I'm going to ask you this question. Why do you perceive communism as such a bad thing? And now he's silent. Jesus Christ. A child. Who you talking to? I was talking to dad. But mom, let's hear your definition of communism, and then I would like to hear why you think it's such a bad thing. I think communism is like dictatorship, uh, worse than socialism. Uh, one person runs the whole shoot and match and nobody has a say in anything. But that's exactly what you want Trump to be able to do. You want Trump to be able to do that. That's funny. You guys have both said you want him to be a king. You have both said he shouldn't obey the Supreme Court. You want that for Donald Trump. No. You want him to have unchecked power, don't you? No. Dad. Okay. So, why is it such a bad thing then, Mom? I never thought you and Haley were communists. I did think you were socialists. You want to give uh all the money that the rich people make to the poor and you don't care if you have money or not because you think none of it is real. Correct. Is that true? That is true. You'll be the first [ __ ] whiny baby when you run out of it. Haley, what do you think communism is? Um close to socialism, but uh there's more control by the government. They have the final say in everything. there is no democracy but in I'll I'll just jump in and give my two cents on it. Obviously it was a a philosophical kind of political ideology started by Karl Marx and Frederick Engles in 184 something I think 1840s50s somewhere around there is when he wrote the communist manifesto. It was meant to be uh an oppositional ideology to capitalism because Mark saw that on an a long enough timeline with capitalism, all the money would suck to the top and you would have a rich ruling class basically uh enslaving what he called the proletariat, the workers. Why why don't you if you love it so much, why don't you move to Russia or China? Both of them because they don't this is the problem with get your ass out of here in its implementation because all governments globally are corrupt. Oh, I see. Now, who's interrupting who? Yeah, exactly. Well, I have to. It's the only way I get to talk. At any rate, it's communism is kind of like whenever he's wrong or push back on, he laughs. What wrong? What am I wrong about? Everything I've said is factual. I think I is is everybody doesn't have no money. No one has money. It's all controlled by the government. True communism in like the ultimate version of it, money doesn't exist, right? You just get what you need from the governmental system. You give in as much as you can and you take out only what you need. I think dad about food, shelter, clothing, those types of things. Dad shouldn't call you communist. He needs to be calling you. You're all more woke. They're communists. They're not communists. And socialism is kind of like a step toward and until until you and Haley move to a communist country, you have zero credibility with me. Zero. I just don't see I just don't see the point in people suffering and wanting people to suffer. That doesn't make sense to me. Well, there's too many [ __ ] people for starters. But why do any of us have to suffer? Why do you think any people have to suffer? because there's too many of them. But none of us have to suffer. There is enough resource on this planet. They need to die. Death, suffering, whatever. Why do you think that? Why can't everyone live a better version of Because it is a fact of life that there are too many [ __ ] people on this planet. I think and they've got to be eliminated. I think the vaccine was trying to take us all down. I do believe that was government. But I think you better start with the communist countries. I do believe that the vaccine was here to take away some of us and make us die. I really do. Okay. Now they're coming out saying that the people that had that with a super cancer now and a lot of people that had that. Have you read about that? Not yet. Let me ask you, Dad, real quick. That's a fact he doesn't want to look at. No. I I want to follow this line of logic that you were talking about, Dad. We need to start with the communist countries. That's where you want to see people dying. Yet on this very podcast, almost universally, you support Russia in the Ukrainian war right now. They are a giant communist country. I don't know if you know that. Oh, do I not know that? I don't know. You support them, but here you're telling me you're against communism. So, I'm I'm just a little confused. Can you clear that up? It depends. See, you you conflict the two stories. Communism has nothing to do with overpopulation in the world. Okay. But the two most overpopulated countries in the world are India and China. So they've got to eliminate their [ __ ] population. The only way to do that, starve their [ __ ] ass or kill them. Okay. But you're avoiding the question. You say you're against No, I'm not. Yes, you are. I'm going to very clearly state this question and then you can answer it. You say you're against communist countries, yet you support Russia in the war against a democracy. I'm not against communist countries when it comes to being on our side and Russia is trying to eliminate population. Okay. Well, then if you're not against communists when they're on our side. That's right. Me and Haley who you believe are communists are in your family. It doesn't get much more on your side. So why are you against us? No, you're not on my side at all. He's thinking you can't get more off my side than you two. He's not thinking you're communist. He says that I think no you're we need to live in China. All right. Let's move on to our first topic today. It's the big beautiful bill. This week the US House of Representatives narrowly passed Donald Trump's one big beautiful bill act with a 215 to 214 vote. The bill aims to permanently extend the 2017 tax cuts for the wealthy, maintaining the 37% top tax rate and increasing the estate tax exemption, allowing couples to pass up to $30 million taxfree to their heirs. It also increases the deduction for pass through entities from 20 to 23% benefiting wealthy family offices. In March, Trump said, "In the near future, I want to do what has not been done in 24 years. Balance the federal budget. We're going to balance it." However, That ain't funny. It's pretty funny. However, the bill will increase the federal deficit by $3.8 trillion over the next decade. To offset less than half of that increase, the bill proposes $1.5 trillion in spending cuts primarily targeting Medicaid and other social programs. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that these cuts would result in 10.3 million people losing their Medicaid coverage by 2034. The legislation now advances to the Senate where it is anticipated to face further debate and potential revisions. Mom, Medaid coverage. What do you think it's fair that people making over $500,000 a year get an extended tax cut while 10 million people are going to be kicked off their health insurance? Yes. I don't think it's going to happen that way. Even though that first bill passed that way, there's still a lot of discussion about it. Um, that's in the bill. It's Medicaid. I know, but it's only passed. It's not Medicare, it's Medicaid. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. I just think they all deserve to be punished. So, anybody who's on Medicaid, you think doesn't need health insurance or shouldn't have it. They need health insurance. They need a job is what they need. They need health insurance. Everybody needs health insurance. We've been over job. Everybody needs to have healthcare. We've been over this. There used to be a day back in back in the 50s and 60s where you had uh local people take care of social security. So, you had to go live in a home for people that didn't have enough money for a house. And if there was a job to be had, they made you take it. Okay. And then you got off of Medicaid. You know what that's called? That went away. That went away when the federal government took it over. Are you talking about employment? No, I'm talking about social security and Medicaid and all that. They they used to have you used to have a home. There was one in Barton County where you had to go live and if there was a job that came up, they made you go work. I did not. And you're for that. You would like to return to that? Well, it's more controlled than having the federal government doing out money to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that doesn't work. Who do you think pays for that house that these people live in? The house? Yeah. The people in the county that you live in from taxes. That's socialism. What you're describing is socialism from property tax. No, it's not socialism. Yes, it is. Amount of people, the amount of people that live in that house. See, socialism is 100% inclusive. Everybody gets the same. When you're looking at social security and Medicaid for a uh social security home in a county, that's less than 2% of the people that live in that area. So, you're wrong. That has not has nothing to do with what you're talking about. You're you're trying to describe something you don't know. You're asked from a hole. But you don't understand that's not what socialism is. Socialism is we all pay into the pot the same or whatever our percentage is based on tax brackets and whatever 100%. And then you it's 100% you pay into the pot. That's socialism. No, that's not. That's communism. No, it isn't true. It isn't true. Um, let me ask you this. Dad, Donald Trump promised to balance the federal deficit. Balance the budget. Do you think adding $3.8 trillion to the deficit is balancing the budget? It will be. How? So, we'll make more money off tariffs. He'll find it. Yeah, he'll find it somewhere else. You think we're going to make $3.8 trillion off tariffs? Yes, we will. Maybe he'll find it somewhere else. Also, you don't quite understand who pay the tariffs or the American business. I don't quite understand. You're sitting here trying to talk economics to a person who put them to massive use and made a lot of money on it. Okay. Okay. Then explain this to me. It explains to me that you don't know one [ __ ] thing about economics. That doesn't explain it. That doesn't explain anything. Explain to me. I need to explain to you. You're a communist. Explain to me how adding $3.8 trillion to the deficit is balancing the budget. Hello. This is what you do when you know you're defeated in an argument. No, it's not true. Yeah, it is. It's what I do when common sense to you means nothing. Please talk common sense to me how is adding I just did and you blow right over it. You did not explain to me how adding 3.8. No, I didn't explain to you to your satisfaction. You didn't explain to me at all because you're because you're [ __ ] ignorant. All right, Maul, let me ask you. How is adding $3.8 trillion to the deficit balancing the budget? It's not, but like I said, I think he would find it somewhere else to help balance that back out, right? $1.5 trillion cuts to Medicaid and social programs. What dad was talking about earlier, I didn't know those houses existed or whatever, but they must have been before I was born or or when I was a little girl in the 60s. In the 60s. But I do remember this. if there were people without jobs in the little town that we lived and if you didn't have a job, you had to go out to um four or five different places each week and they had to sign that you were there looking for employment. The minute one of those popped open, you took the job. I do remember that. That's not happening now with employment and people getting back to work so that they do have insurance, they do have health care. I think some people just want to sit at home now and let the government take care of them and not go out and work. I happen to know this too. There are younger I I have a very young friend. I love her to pieces and then I have some other younger friends that used to be back in Dallas, Houston with us where we lived. They not the one here, the ones back there. They don't want to get married because if they get married, then they don't get uh full benefits both ways with the person they're not marrying, themselves, and the baby. Mhm. So people now, they don't want to get married because they don't get the government funds. That's not the America that we grew up in. You're talking about healthcare. Can you imagine a universal system in America where everybody is covered for everything always? No. Why? I don't think it'll happen. Yeah. No. It's every other first world country in the world has that system except us because we're so profit driven. Mhm. No. If if you have a job with a good company, you should have health insurance and and all kinds of uh guess what I we have insurance million people one million people that the Chinese exterminated they're they're all covered under health insurance. So we have health insurance through a good time and it's supposedly good insurance. We have to pay $7,000 out of pocket before it even kicks in. When 7,000 for what? Deductible. For what though? A hospital paying off until it kicks in for anything. That's a spit in the bucket. We get like we get annual checkups that are, you know, part of our insurance, which is great because there's five of us. But if I go in for like a procedure, if I go in for anything, it's out of pocket until we meet that [ __ ] deductible. And that's a lot of people in America. And that's a lot of [ __ ] money that people don't just have. So it helps us if I get like [ __ ] cancer, you know? But if I just need to go in for routine [ __ ] or checkups or things that aren't huge, that's a lot of money out of pocket and that is with health care. That is with insurance. With deduct with deductibles like that, can't you pay more for your premium and then you don't have that high of a deductible? It'll be lower. Correct. But it's still [ __ ] money out of your paycheck every month or it's an upfront cost when you go to the doctor. Either way, health care in America is [ __ ] [ __ ] You know that. You know that it's [ __ ] When your dad worked, we had pretty good health insurance. We had Blue Cross Blue Shield. We had what was each time he would switch a job, you know, the health insurance always changed with a company that he worked for. But we really had pretty good health insurance. Kylie, we really did. It's not that way anymore. All right, let's move on. Speaking of cancer, our next topic is Biden's cancer. This week, Joe Biden announced that he has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer that has metastasized to his bones. Trump expressed sympathy, stating, "Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery. Palpatine. That's a little Palpatine as well. Okay, I'm gonna have to start trying because you're no good. Yeah, please. However, some Republicans have raised questions regarding the timing of the diagnosis. Vice President JD Vance suggested that Biden's advisers might have concealed his condition, stating this is not child's play and we can pray for good health, but also recognized that if you're not in good enough health to do the job, you shouldn't be doing the job. Heads up to Jade Dance, he's not currently doing the job. Biden's office has denied allegations of a cover up, clarifying that his last known prostate specific cancer screening was over a decade ago and that the cancer was not diagnosed prior to last week. Dad, do you think Joe Biden's cancer was a coverup? Yes. Care to elaborate? No. A cover up for one? No. Do you think they covered up the diagnosis? The fact that he had cancer? Do you think he had cancer the whole time he was president and they they were lying to people about it? You do think so. Why do you think that? Because you don't get stage four in a month. Uhhuh. But he could have had it and not known. Like, do you think they knew he had cancer when he was president? [ __ ] falling down everywhere, [ __ ] his pants overnight. That probably has nothing to do with prostate cancer. But Mo, did you think that they knew about his cancer earlier than he's got but hole cancer, too? This is all linked together. The autopin, the cancer, his mental decline, it's all linked together. It's a bunch of lies. Now, the cancer that they came out and said he had stage four. Um, they also said it's hormone sensitive, which there were three experts I saw on TV and then I read up about it. That means that his cancer has responded to a treatment of of doing this to where the testosterone goes way down. for a person to know that that it responds that way, he would have had to be having uh treatment at least, they said 3 to four months, probably a year. Mhm. Then to have stage four, they're saying he probably had it at the time that he became president. Okay. So all of that is a lie. the inner circle of people around him that has protected him and lied to all of us. None of those people will ever hold office. I do not believe. Let's say like uh Buddha Judge, let's say he might want to run for president next time around. He was transportation secretary, right? He was secretary within part of the Biden regiment. Let's say he wants to run for president next. He it's not going to work. People he knew about his decline, his mental decline. He shut it up and told no one about it. There were a lot of people real close to him like that that knew that. I feel they should all go to jail. They should they should really It's being investigated now. A a a man to get prostate cancer, they have a test called a PSA. Your dad has had one every year of his life. It's a blood test. It's no big deal. When they when you go to your urologist for a checkup or even your yearly checkup with your family doctor, they draw blood. They take a small amount of that for your PSA test. He had to have one of those upon entering his presidency last time. And you don't think that cancer can grow that quickly? No. No, you're wrong about that. The cancer I had went from being something that was like the size of a zit on my face. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. the size of a grape essentially in about a week and a half. This thing on my lip just started expanding under the skin and I was like, "What the [ __ ] is this?" They cut it out. It came back literally within days. It was once again three spots that were like as big as peas in 48 hours, maybe. You're trying to equate your cancer to hicks. I'm trying to tell you cancer can grow completely. They're completely different cancers. Okay. As somebody who's read anything about cancer, let me explain this to you. Every single case of cancer is completely different. You can have the same type of cancer or a different type of cancer as somebody else and your specific case can grow rapidly, slowly, etc., etc. There are outliers on all kinds of cancers that can grow super fast. It's is circumstance. Nobody really knows why. Some cancers take off, some don't. His could have grown incredibly fast. That's totally possible. I hope it does. Well, that was my next question. Do you want him to die a painful death, Dad? No. Yes. No. No. He sold us out to the Chinese. That's rude. Okay. So, he needs whatever he's got coming. I hope he gets it. Oh my god. Well, we're going to get to who's selling who out and who's making money off people a little bit later. But let's move on to part of that, Chad, though, that gets me is that hormone sensitive thing. They said that that if if they're just speaking that he does have the kind that they can treat that way, they've known about it for months. They knew about it when he was president. Maybe. Maybe. You don't know what his specific cancer was like. You don't know how cricket grew. You don't know what test. All right, let's uh we've gotten heated up. My dad is on one today. I thought today for a simmer down each of us could go around and dad, I want you to participate. Please, I'm begging you. I want each one of us to just sing a few lines from our favorite song, whatever it may be. Haley, why you always got to make me go first? I don't even know. Because you're a good sport about it. And I know maybe if you do it and we do it and we are all having some fun, maybe dad will join in. Unlikely, but he's ready. What? Yeah. I mean, Dad, do you want to kick it off? [ __ ] Sure. Yes. Yes. Okay, let's hear it. Belt it out. Okay, look at his face. My favorite song. Yeah. Fly to the phoenix has no words. We'll hum the tune. Sing the song you were going to sing. I can't without the music going. No, you can't. I can't either. I've been to the desert. No, that ain't Oh, that's a great song. What were you gonna sing? Fly to the Phoenix. There are no words. Hum it then. Do do some deed's. That's my favorite song. I can't help it. Come on. Sing your second favorite song then. I don't have a second favorite song. Okay. He was going to sing this one. Mom was trying to get me to sing this other song. He was under anesthetic once for a left knee um that he had no ACL. while they were trying to repair it. He gets in the recovery room. I walk in. He's singing to the nurses this song as they're laughing. And I've been in the desert with on a horse with no name. America of the rain and a desert. You can't remember the name. Yeah. He was singing that to nurses on a Thanksgiving. Okay. But you won't sing it now. No, that's not my song. Okay. He said my favorite song. My favorite song is Flight of the Phoenix. They actually played it at Haley's wedding. All right. Um, Mom, do you want to sing a song? You shouldn't have unleashed me. I've often dreamed of a far off place where a hero's welcome will be waiting for me. Carry on my wayward, son. There'll be your weary head to rest. I said weary. That song I had playing when Max went to heaven. Okay. If a picture paints a thousand words, then why can't I paint you? That was Brad. This is a medley. You are so beautiful to me. Can't you see? Go to the bathroom. You're everything I've hoped for. You're everything to me. You are so beautiful to me. You've driven down. That was Joe. Oh god, he's gonna tip everything over. Jesus Christ. That was Joe Coffer. That was Joe Coffer, by the way. Okay. Um, why do birds here? Every time you are near, just like me, they long to be close to you cuz I'm dreaming of you tonight. You like Selena? Till tomorrow I'll be holding you tight and there'shere else that I would ra than here in my room dreaming about you and me. It's a little bit funny this feeling inside. I'm not one of those who can easily hide. I don't have much money, but boy, I'd buy a big house. Uh, I thought I had one more. I am a man who will fight. I'll be the hero that you're dreaming of. We'll live forever. I have a question. Knowing together that we did it all for the glory of love. Okay. Thank you. I have a question for the two comments. Yeah. Are you both willing to give up where you live to live in a smaller apartment? Uh, yeah. So that everybody can have a smaller apartment and not a house. 100% 100%. Um, hang on. We're we're still in the simmer down, Dad. And you're bringing in politics. You're both large. That's a strike on you. I thought all this time your favorite song was Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. I do like that one. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. I like to um Ain't no valley, ain't no river. I I didn't realize this was going to be like a 20 minute solo. Here we got to get to Haley. What's your song? Um, this is I have a favorite song. Well, I had like a lot of songs. Just sing one. Any song. Sing any song. Uh, sing me a song. I love Journey. All right. I love Journey. We'll go with Journey. I had that one down, too. Which one? [Music] Highways and you're on my mindless hearts sleep alone. [Music] [Music] Yeah, I like that one. All right, I'll do two then. Since mom did 100. First is see if you can guess it. We don't need another hero. We don't need to know the way home. I know that one. All we want is life beyond the thunder. Thunder. And there used to be a green tower alone on the sea. You became a light on the dark side of me. Love the drug, not the cure. Come on, join it. Get in the air tonight. Join in with me. Dad. Dad. We're not stopping this until dad joins in. [Laughter] You won't join in with us, Dad. We should had the real song queued up, I think. All right, let's move on. Wait, Haley had one more. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I just like In the Air Tonight, Phil Collins and In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel. I [Music] All right. How about all we are is dust in the wind. Oh, I love that song. Take my hand. Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. It slips in the dead of night. All your money won't another [Music] minute waiting for this moment in your life. Blackird singing in the dead of night. You know that song, Chad? Yeah, I do. All right, let's move on. That's um uh is it Beatles or just Paul McCartney? That's Beatles. That was Beatles. Yeah. All right, let's u move on to our next topic. Follow the money. This week, Trump hosted an exclusive black tie dinner at his Virginia golf club for the top 220 investors in his personal memecoin crypto scam. Some attendees reportedly spent over $1 million to secure their invitations. Notably, cryptobillionaire Justin Sun, who invested more than 40 million in the Trump coin, received a $100,000 Trump branded watch as a gift during the event. The dinner featured Trump arriving via helicopter and delivering a brief 25-minute speech that touched on cryptocurrency's growing importance. Despite the event's lavish setting, some attendees were they expressed disappointment over the quality of the food and limited interaction with the president. Since Trump began his second term in January 2025, his private clubs Mara Lago and Bedminister have seen significant financial gains. Mara Logago's profits have quadrupled since Trump's presidency uh took place, his second iteration, likely due to Trump raising the membership fee from $200,000 to $1 million in recent months. Bedmaster 2 has seen an increase in the membership fee to $125,000, fueling the most profitable 3-month period in the club's history. And since the election in November 2024, Trump's net worth has more than doubled with estimates ranging from 5.1 billion to 5.4 billion, up from approximately 2.3 billion in 2024. Mom, do you acknowledge that Trump is profiting from being the president? He's a businessman. Businessman. um what he does on his own like that. So be so be it. Okay. Dad, do you acknowledge that he is profiting from the presidency? It's called capitalism. But you know, every president prior to this has sold their stake in whatever personal businesses they might have had. No, that's not true. They put it in a trust and it sits there, right? Nobody sold anything. They're not actively engaged. didn't sell anything. They're not actively engaged. All he sold all he sold was our country to the Chinese. They're not actively engaged in those businesses holding neither is he. What the hell are you talking about? He's selling the meme coin. He just showed up at a private dinner for the people who have given him the most money. How is he not How is he not involved in in that personal? I didn't say he was involved. I said he wasn't selling anything. He's selling memecoin. No, he isn't. Yeah, he was. He literally is not. You guys have his trust is Yeah. You You misinterpret everything. How do you misinterpret this, Dad? He showed up in a helicopter to the event that people paid money to see him. Yeah, it's good for him. He's selling that event through coin. I agree with it. you guys have on your your uh kitchen table right back there. Shoes, cologne, a teddy bear, a Bible. He's selling everything. What do you bought all that before he was president? What's that? We bought every bit of that before he was president. Okay. Um Haley, what do you think of this? What do you think of him just completely in the open, paytoplay, whoever gives me the most money gets to spend time with me and have my ear? That's not a surprise. He's a reality star. It's not a surprise. He's pimping himself out to make money. He always has, always will. That's how he's an office now. Mom and dad bought his [ __ ] He's always been selling himself. That's what he does. He's a He's a reality TV star. It's what he's always done. He doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of us. You He is still operating his businesses, profiting. He's What did you say? He's doubled his worth since being elected president the second time around. Yeah. Like what the [ __ ] He's a crook. Yeah, I totally agree. Um, Dad, do you think that people who can afford to be members at his club or buy millions of dollars worth of his uh cryptocurrency should have special access to him above regular citizens? Oh, absolutely. So, you want an oligarchy? I want him to run the show. But you're open to the idea. You call You can call it whatever you want. Well, it's not what I want. It's what it is. You call You can call it whatever you want. He's going to get this country straightened out. There's no one better to do what he's doing right now. You do you not see like the problem with him? I see what with my dad. What you're doing right now, what you're doing right now is what you just accused me of doing earlier in the show. Completely interrupting. to do this or I don't get to talk. That's not correct. We can do one, two, three, four. You'll be number one. I'll be number two. The question I'm trying to ask here is, do you see a problem with a president allowing ultra rich people to buy access to him? No. You see no problem with it whatsoever? None. Don't you think that he's going to be far more likely to adjust policy and write executive orders? Maybe some Let me speak. You cannot complain about getting interrupted when you do it to everybody literally every time. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, he is now more likely to write policy and produce executive orders that will help these rich people that are paying him money, then he is likely to do that for anyone else, including poor people, including the people who need government help the most. He's far more likely to help out his rich friends that are paying him. A dude paid $40 million buying his cryptocurrency. Hello. I don't I don't think that will influence him to do things. It already is the big beautiful bill. It's tax cuts for those people at the cost of 10 million poor people losing their health insurance. You know what you need to do? Work harder, make more money. So, you're one of those rich people. That's called capitalism. I don't believe it is. I mean, I don't believe you're being you're being outworked by somebody. Do you think everybody in America could make that kind of money and get that kind of access? I think more people can become multi-millionaires than they are now. What about all the dinners and all the plates that people pay like thousands of dollars to go to these those are political fundraisers. I don't agree with that either, by the way. Those are political fun. That's kind of what this is. I mean, it's been going on forever. No, no, those political fundraisers have money that go into their campaign funds. So there are there are laws around how that money can be used. It will have to be used for campaigns or political purposes. Hang on, mom. This is people paying Donald Trump directly. They are giving money to him. So that that Yes, it is. They're buying his cryptocurrency. That money goes straight to him. No, it doesn't. I will uh research that for next time. Trust. I don't know. I don't know where it goes. First, go straight to him. I just told you his net worth doubled. That's his money. Mhm. No, that's his trust. Okay. I will look it up. I'll research it. Yes. All right. Let's move on. Our next topic is the least transparent part of the government. This week, the Trump administration escalated efforts to keep internal records of the Department of Government Efficiency, that's Doge, secret from the public. After a lower court ruled that Doge had to release certain documents and allow for the deposition of Amy Gleason, the head administrator of Doge, Solicitor General John Sauer, filed an emergency appeal to the US Supreme Court seeking to block that order. It was only in February that Alon Musk and Trump himself did their press conference from the Oval Office promising that Doge would operate with quote maximum transparency, stating that all of Doge's actions would be made public through its social media accounts and official website. Mom, why are they trying to stop people from finding out what Doge is doing? I thought it was transparent. I think they're going to springing on all of us all at once. I think there's some really bad stuff going on in Doge. Yeah. No, bad. No bad stuff that they're finding out uh like high ranking officials have done and they're waiting to spring it on all of us. But they said that DOA is supposed to be the most transparent office in the government. What What is that noise? Is that you Haley? Dogs going crazy. Yeah. Okay. Her dog Look, she just stands around. Our dog doesn't bark. Mom, why would they lie about being fully transparent? Like I said, it will come out. They will let us see everything, but I think they're holding it all up until they can gather it all together and then put it out there. Trump doesn't hold anything back ever. If he's got something to use to attack his enemies, why would he be doing it this time? We will see. Dad, why do you think they're being secretive, Dad? about what? They're not being secretive about Are you watching Newsmax again, Dad, while we're doing the podcast? No. What are you watching? Nothing. I'm watching nothing. Uhhuh. Um, the whole thing that I read was Haley, are the dogs calming down a little bit? This is mind-numbing. Yeah, I'm trying to tell somebody to [ __ ] get them. The whole thing that I was reading, Dad, is a federal court ordered the release of some documents from Doge to see how things are working in that department. That's right. One of Trump's lawyers then is trying to block that to keep the information secret. Yeah, they're not, right? It's because they've been cheating all of us. Yes, they don't want to show the [ __ ] corruption that has been going on. The only corruption there is corruption was Joe Biden and the Chinese and they're finding a bunch of it and they're going to spring it on us all. Okay. No, they're not. They already have. Just like the Epstein files that they were going to expose and show everyone and never did. Okay. You know what's happening there? This is my files and the UFO. This is my belief. Can I say something about that Epstein thing? Yep. This is what I'm thinking. I think he was working for our government. I think they asked him to get these high ranking officials in compromising positions with, you know, things they shouldn't be doing. They took pictures of it all. Then they would blackmail them to do different things they wanted for our government. I think that was involved that he was involved with our government. I really do. Donald Trump was involved in the Epstein files. No, from Donald Trump down was Obama years. All of them. Biden, Donald Trump is in them. It doesn't matter. Okay, we'll see. We'll see. I seriously doubt it. We all agree. Jeffrey Epstein had an island where he was funneling hundreds of millions of dollars, having these crazy sex orgies with high ranking people from all kinds of places, governments, rich people, whatever, where they were having sex with kids. We all agree on that, right? He was working for our government. Hang on, Dad. You agree with that? That's what I've read. Yes. Dad, do you agree with that? Not necessarily. You don't think he was he had a private island where they were having or Jesus? I think he had a private island. I doubt if they had half the [ __ ] went on that they say. We don't know. You do know there are people who have like literally given their testimony. Okay. So, Dad, you're refuting the entire idea that there was any kind of inappropriate behavior. I'm refuting the entire idea. I will refute the idea that Trump ever went there. Okay. But you do think that that island was full of criminal activity of of the most heinous kind. Yeah. And I think our government was behind it. Okay. And you do acknowledge that Donald Trump said he was going to release all the files. Yes. And he will. He's They released a little bit, but there was nothing in there. They'll release more. Now, can I get to one other statement? Your beloved Obama will be in the middle of it all. The P Diddy thing, you know, that's happening now. Now he's in court. that. Yeah, there was a man that testified and Obama's name was brought up and I have seen I don't know if it's true. I don't know it's true. There was He's a homo pedophile. There was like drugs dished down at all those parties, you know, everything what the P. Diddy people weirdos did. Um, and there were drugs with the face of Obama on them. That's what I saw in I don't know if it's true or not. That's what I saw. Okay. So, he might be interlin and all this stuff too. Let's move on. We have one more topic. I want to try and squeeze it in here. It is the South African presidential visit. This week, South African president Sirill Ramposa visited the White House. Let Chad talk. Go ahead, Dad. Can you refrain from interrupting me for this is about a minute? Go for it. Yes, he is. Go. Let's see if he can do it. Let's see if he can do it. This week, South Africa president I do it all the time. Can't do it. got I got one second into it and you interrupted. Not capable. This week, South African President Sel Ramaposa visited the White House for a diplomatic meeting with Trump while Ramaposa aimed to strengthen trade relations and address tariffs. Trump decided to pick a fight with him about unfounded claims of a white genocide occurring in South Africa. In an attempt to legitimize his lies, Trump presented a video alleging systematic killings of white South African farmers. However, the footage in the video was from the Democratic Republic of Congo, not South Africa. Ramaposa refuted these claims, emphasizing that while crime is a serious issue in South Africa, it affects all communities and is not racially targeted. He highlighted that the majority of farm attack victims are actually black South Africans. Dad, do you think a white genocide is happening in South Africa? 100%. Mom, do you? Yes. Based on what evidence? Trump. I just told you the video he showed based on a whole valley full of white Christian signs. Signs. Yeah. Crosses. We saw the crosses. Whole valley of them. Oh, I thought you meant like biblical signs like end of the world, end time stuff. I was like, "What the [ __ ] Now we're getting off the crosses. Thousands of them." Now, why Trump white farmers that have been murdered in South Africa has nothing to do with the Congo. That's why I love Trump. The guy that run the guy that runs South Africa is a murderer. But the video Donald Trump showed him in the White House had footage from the Democratic Republic of Congo threw and threw the glove down and and the guy Trump claimed that it was footage from South Africa, but it's not. The guy was saying the guy was saying kill white farmers. Kill white farmers. Uhhuh. Yeah. Trump's a genius. He was ready for him and and he showed him. That's what I think. Haley, do you think there's a white genocide happening in South Africa? I do on those farmers. Oh, you the news is just exhausting. I wake up. Yeah. And every day it's just a new [ __ ] like look at this photo that has nothing to do with what's going on. White House official is like the most [ __ ] horrific page on Instagram on any social media site. It's like a [ __ ] meme account. Is this real? Is it the [ __ ] onion? I have to ask myself, is this real? And it's their opinion. All right, we went over this. Just disheartening. Ready? I have one more question. We went over this last week. You know what we watch, what we think, what's real, what's not. Yeah. Um, so it was worse with Pygmy. Stop. Let me ask you one final question about this. Trump did this to Zalinsky, too, where he invites somebody to the White House just to like make fun of them and and [ __ ] talk them. Do you think, Dad, that it makes America um look good to the rest of the world when Trump constantly does this to other foreign leaders? Absolutely. In what way? What? They're afraid to come see him. But that is that a good thing that other countries are afraid to even speak to the leader of our country? Anytime other country is afraid of the United States, it's a good thing. But let me paint this picture for you. He keeps doing this to other world leaders. Painting your picture. I'm painting the picture. He keeps doing this to other world leaders. The picture. At a certain point, the rest of the world leaders are going to say, "This guy [ __ ] sucks." Yeah. What are we doing here? No, they are. And then they all turn against America because they hate Trump so much. No, they're all afraid of America. He's showing power. I love him. I I don't think he was bad to Zalinski at all. Um I don't think he was bad to this guy from Africa at all. You don't hold any of the cards. When you're brought into the White House and you get your [ __ ] face slapped, that doesn't make them love us. It makes them afraid of us. We're a joke around the world. America is a [ __ ] disgrace. You guys have no clue what we are around the world. We are not a disgrace. It's cuz you're going to France for two weeks. What? I don't know what's going on over there, Dad. You all right? Yeah. All right. Well, that wraps up our show. Thank you for joining us. I hope you enjoyed our musical stylings in the middle of this one. I had fun doing it. Dad, I made a little internal bet with myself that you would not participate, and I was correct. There is no way to get you to enjoy things anymore. Um, we got to get to the bottom of that at some point. But nonetheless, despite your refusal to participate in our fun time as a family, I do love you. We will get you participating in something. I'm going to come up with a simmer down at some point that's going to get you laughing. Mom, I love you despite the fact that you don't necessarily love that I don't love Memorial Day. I can see you with your flag there. Haley, I love you as well. It's good to have you back. I hope the trip was good. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. Nice. Very heartfelt. Yeah. Golly, I love you guys both. Do you want me to like give you a paragraph every episode? Now I have to like three three putups for everyone. Yes. I want you to think about it because look, ultimately this show, if nothing else, it's about trying to get us all to recognize that our relationship to Donald Trump or Joe Biden is not as important as our relationship to each other. We are on different sides. We'll always be. I don't think there's no You guys are sides don't exist in your way. Those sides don't exist. Neither one. Haley would not move into a [ __ ] apartment complex. I love you both. That's a [ __ ] lie. We're never gonna see each other's side in politics the same ever. I do know, and I love you all. But I do know we um did pick up three more viewers. Shout out Oh, Kitty. Shout out to Lynn, Lindsay, and Mickey cuz she texted me and asked for some clips and stuff. She said, "Keep the good fight up." Okay. Hello everybody, even the two communists. Oh my god. Please. All right. Well, with that said, we will see you next week.