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America is deeply divided there are only two sides to every issue and there is no interest in finding common ground not even with members of your own family but as the 2024 presidential election Looms on the horizon there has never been a more important time to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation Merry Christmas this is a very special Christmas episode we're still getting together uh as we do once a week Jesus Christ my dad sticking out his tongue at us and uh this podcast is of course a conversation between myself my fellow liberal sister Haley Pope and our two magga qanon super right-wing uh parents Bob and Mary Lou how's everybody doing on this Christmas you left out Geniuses Geniuses as well I forgot how's everybody doing on Christmas Merry Christmas it's not Christmas fine all right well that's our festivities for the year uh you'll tomorrow idea of of our family Dynamic there all right we're GNA begin today's podcast by asking my dad about a prediction he made on January 29th of this year that's almost a year ago now 329 days ago you said a nuclear weapon would be used in Ukraine within 30 to 40 days we're 329 days past that prediction do you consider the prediction to have been wrong no and they already used the nuke way past my prediction before it came true okay but you were talking about in the war in Ukraine that's what I'm talking about they use a nuclear weapon there yes they did all right I'm unaware of this I know you're not okay it's okay because you watch MSNBC I guess we'll hope that youel madow the provide some proof of that next uh podcast but all right I'm not aware of what you're talking about yeah I just woke up what I'm talking about is they have used nuclear missiles they did it way back in the beginning of the war okay yeah if you can provide some proof of that how I've been letting you go on and on and on on and you're wrong okay all right well we're GNA move on now to the portion of our program in which we take a question from a listener if anybody out there wants to submit their questions to this podcast you just record a one minute or shorter audio clip send it to the necessary conversation gmail.com sorry it's the necessary conversation pod gmail.com I go through all of them here we go this is the question are you guys ready yes it's about the gay black woman in Harvard okay God go damn this question is for Chad and Haley I'm curious if you feel like your parents have always been at this level of passion and conviction in regards to their conservative and right-wing beliefs or if you've noticed a change that they might not have held all of these beliefs or have been as passionate about it when you were younger but maybe since the Trump Administration or a certain moment in time that they kind of took a turn to express more of these beliefs with as much Vigor and passion as they do now so I'm curious to hear what you all have to say about that all right Haley uh we've talked about this a little bit but um Haley what do you think was the thing that because they weren't the answer is no when we were kids uh you guys were definitely not like this so what was the thing that flipped the switch what do you think it was Haley when do you notice this first 2016 Donald Trump 100% uh I know that they've always been yeah maybe OB it was Obama it then you have to start asking well what was it about Obama what know what it was was it about Obama black Muslim but I I I remember remember I remember them being conservative uh I mean we went to [ __ ] church as children um I also remember right I think at some point they said like it's all [ __ ] we're not going anymore um but I also remember Dad having a [ __ ] copy of Dian gentics yeah I remember that remember this yeah you were reading Scientology yeah he literally had elron hubard like in the [ __ ] living room on the coffee table so I do remember that and M comp okay oh my God okay hey I've got a copy of mine comp why not yeah but I it definitely ramp have you read it I I started I only got about halfway through it okay it ramped up I think so Obama kind of sparked something but I think it really [ __ ] like Whole Hog when Trump became president that's when like they went [ __ ] mad like that's when all of the mental [ __ ] started yeah I agree my parents are Whispering amongst themselves what are you guys saying go ahead and finish and then we'll talk she did it's your turn go ahead I think when you get in the last quarter of your life when you have experienced what we have experienced in that's nice Merry Christmas we know we know for a fact that we either win this election or our country's over and and our way of life is over and if our way of life is over the uh leftwing their life is over as many as I can take with me I you believe sorry Mom go ahead I think too as you get older you get there are a couple things that you get most passionate about and this is one of them for us politics and and and and by the way Haley is correct what that our change to the more impassionate version of us now started with Barack [ __ ] Obama right and why was it it had nothing to do with what was it about Obama that that sparked you guys he's black he's black he's a Muslim he hates America racis go down the [ __ ] huh racism is at the top of the list oh abs a [ __ ] lutely okay he's not even a Muslim though yes he is his father was a radical Muslim uhuh you didn't know this Haley your beloved black president his dad was one of the most radical Muslims on the planet okay great Barack Obama is not a Muslim yes he is Alexa is Barack Obama of Muslim faith she's talking what Christian he identifies as a Christian but he's a [ __ ] muslim his [ __ ] middle name's Hussein for God's sake okay do you think Trump is Christian Alexa doesn't matter he's not a Muslim all right uh anybody who's a Muslim is my dead enemy now okay I think that just just my two cents on this it definitely was during Obama and I think Obama had that effect on a lot of people a lot of people who who were just racist in America but it had only been white President White President White president oh my God here's a black president I think it was such a shock to the system uh to people who were extremely racist like my parents I believe that that shock to the system is what really allowed Trump to even become president because he was running on a lot of racist rhetoric and I think people like you guys uh were like yep that's my guy he's saying all this coded racist [ __ ] some of this stuff is overtly racist and it's like we can't have another black president was basically why Trump got elected in my opinion and you guys were a part of that you were a part of that movement yeah all right so there you have it uh again if you want to submit your question to this very podcast to any of us or all of us it's an email let me ask you a question okay let me ask you a question you consider mom and I racist do you consider all your leftwing [ __ ] who are against uh Israel racist who are my left-wing [ __ ] uh everybody that goes to [ __ ] Harvard all these I don't know anybody go to Harvard all these kids that are protesting the movement they're all Palestinian lovers are they not racists don't it's a yes or no [ __ ] questions I don't know any of these people and I won't lump them into one and say everyone at Harvard is racist or not how could I Poss know that yeah they are well look at the president she got there because of [ __ ] equal rights she isn't qualified to do [ __ ] she stole every bit of her doctorial thesis from another woman no not that's not true I read a lot about this because it was potentially gonna be a topic today but I was like isn't important enough Obama actually was instrumental in getting her in that position and there have been some instances in her uh PhD thesis that please be quiet for a minute were uh taken from other sources and not cited as such they were not quoted and not cited Harvard listen I'm just telling you what the facts are Harvard has investigated it and their board has said the the actions they found in her papers did not constitute an action that was worth any kind of uh punishment but but two days ago they found 40 more things that she did with taking other peop and uh she may still have her job but they're losing hundreds of millions of donations every day that is also true the push to keep her we know who it is Obama I know all of that is true I don't know if she plagiarized or not that still I think is like kind of up in the air it's not looking good look I agree with you I think there's there's a lot of uh things that are very bad about the the current system of the United States University system what you won't bleep It Anyway bleep what did you say something bad word yes yes just to derail what I'm saying no no he just said a bad word what was it what was it so I can go back and and beep it hello you know you know what it would be was it the n-word yes yes why you do it Dad I don't know just comes out all right call him like I see him first topic so 10 minutes in I'll have to go back we we didn't know who the uh question person was because that voice was very familiar he did not know that person what was her name I didn't get a name it was just a question sent not everybody puts their name and address on them why not well that should be a a mandatory or you can't or we can't let start the podcast off with our first topic now from now on though you need to put out here on our podcast if you attended Harvard University you are not eligible to submit a question oh dear God I will not say that everyone is eligible to submit a question regardless of where they did or did not go to college then I'll do then I'll go one step if it comes from somebody that's from Harvard and you know it I will not answer it okay there you have it my dad is protesting answering a question on a family podcast if the question comes from someone who went to Harvard University that's right we are Banning Harvard University from the culton household it no longer exists all right Harvard is dead speaking of things that no longer exist what Trump is off the ballots in Colorado last Tuesday in a 43 decision the Colorado Supreme Court rule that Donald Trump is disqualified by the Constitution [ __ ] talk from serving as president again because he stoked an Insurrection on January 6 2021 and therefore would not appear on the 2024 presidential election ballots in that state the case will likely head to the US Supreme Court for a final decision but since Tuesday it's already been overturned he has got to go through the appet process first the Supreme Court already ruled on that they will not hear it it has to go to the appell at court this will not take effect before the election now but I'm gonna go ahead and read all of this and then we can start talking since Tuesday Colorado's decision is being cited by voters and politicians and a variety of States who are seeking to use the 14th amendment's Insurrection Clause to kick Trump off ballots in their own states that Clause states that anyone who in quotes engaged in Insurrection or Rebellion after taking oath of office to support the Constitution is forbidden from holding any public office in Michigan a group of Voters suing to Bar Trump from the state's ballot quickly brought the Colorado decision to the attention of the Michigan Supreme Court filing a letter on Wednesday saying that the Colorado Court had resolved several issues relevant to their own case including that section three of the 14th amendment applies to the office of the presidency and that the attack at the capital on January 6th amounted to an Insurrection in Maine secretary of state shanab belos had said that she would rule on challenges to Trump's qualifications by Friday but in the wake of the Colorado ruling her office said in an email that her decision would be delayed uh due in part to the outcome of that case in New York two lawsuits have been filed so far to keep Trump off the primary ballot and in California a wide range of political actions have been taken to possibly try to achieve uh the same outcome now dad you've already kind of answered this because you you can't allow the the questions to be read but what will the Supreme Court rule on this Haley what do you think it already has you're behind they they ruled on it yesterday they are forcing Colorado and everybody else to go to the appellant process first therefore Jack Smith and his horse [ __ ] are dead nobody else is going to file they're not going to it's not going to fly let haly answer Supreme Court already ruled on it Bud they're making them to the gonna to go to the appell court that will rise to the Supreme Court you know what that takes months yes I agree with you [ __ ] this can be expedited big finger all right well Haley what do you think the Supreme Court's going to rule on this I think it will eventually go there I think it's going to go through the appell at courts all the way to the Supreme Court I think Trump will always [ __ ] get off I the Supreme Court is [ __ ] stacked and we know it so I mean it doesn't really [ __ ] matter which is awful because you know all these states are are trying to he literally caused the Insurrection like you're acting like that didn't happen not oh by the way God uh Texas is now if they would have let this go through they were going to take Biden off the ballot the lieutenant governor suggested under what grounds same one same one they don't that he caused the Insurrection citing an Insurrection bribery Miss bribery is a impeachable offense and they're going to take him off the ballot for it all right well let me ask you this Mom and Dad this is kind of like a a general question related to this all this stuff you're talking about right this minute yeah absolutely has nothing to do with price do you think do you think that this is how American government should work one side does something Petty I'm gonna take you off the ballot well then we're gonna take you off the ballot you know what made this all petty Joe Biden and the [ __ ] doj in particular Meritt Garland made all this possible for you okay you want to keep that [ __ ] in office yeah okay what would you do Dad if Trump is kicked off off the Oklahoma ballot I would uh get my gun and go out and get rid of the first however many it takes them to kill me first who who are you shooting Democrats I go straight down the Capitol building and start eliminating Democrat politicians so you're making an open threat against Oklahoma State Senators who who if they take my candidate off my ballot you godamn right going to die before I let that happen okay here it says I just Googled something and they better know it it said the Texas lieutenent governor yeah Dan Patrick who is a republican on Tuesday suggested that President Biden be off the ballot in Texas due to his handling of immigration citing that the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling to kick off former president Trump off the ballot we'll just do that he said but they can't do it they can't do that okay they can't do that to Trump either they've done it no no yes he as of now ballot no Colorado he is that now has to go through the appell at courts no he's not Alexa is former president off the ballot of Colorado Alex is not a strong enough AI to know this now my Alex is talking to me all right look uh let me let me ask you this if Trump is removed from ballot and states that he's likely gonna lose anyway it's War okay okay that's the point oh Jesus Chad that's the point where people like me go to war I believe you will never in quotes go to war people like you I believe will never go to war I don't know what that look are you guys gonna see that movie Civil War by the way no I ain't gonna watch your [ __ ] it looks good looks good to me yeah I wrote a movie very similar to it in 2017 called civilians was about an American Civil War I call that long time ago buddy and it's coming true and it will not be just a civil war it will be a racial Civil War all right okay so this is um the question I was trying to ask if Trump is taking off the ballots in these states that he's likely going to lose anyway but he's not taking off the ballots in the states that he actually could win do you think that it helps get stronger turnout in those states he can win because people get more pissed off 100% I I've watched a lot of stuff on TV I've read about it people are already mad about it and they said this is only going to help him more only gonna help him more even though your side of the fence is starting to get pissed off yep all right well uh I am not on any side of the fence I hate you are the Republican and Democratic parties I think they're both Terri he will he has to vote for Trump yeah Pon want you did take a stand yes you will vote not a stand I hate Donald Trump casting my vote for him as a gift to you Dad right so that's a stand you took it is not a stand it's me saying I don't give a [ __ ] about my vote so I'm gonna give it to you and also because I know that vote doesn't matter in California if he's on the California if he's on the California ballot you know what even if he's not I'll write him in for you let's move on to our next topic uh Wisconsin is ordered to redraw its voting districts last Friday the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that the state's legislative Maps which give Republicans an unfair Advantage are unconstitutional and ordered new districts to be drawn for the 2024 election the 4 to3 decision overturning the current maps in a key Battleground State carries major implications for the 2024 election and comes after liberals won control of of the Court this spring the Wisconsin case is one of several redistricting occurring across the country that could determine control of governing bodies from local governing boards to State legislates and the US House of Representatives in its ruling Friday the Wisconsin Supreme Court said that the state constitution requires districts be comprised of contiguous territory at least 50 of 99 Assembly districts and at least 20 of 33 Senate districts violate that mandate rendering them unconstitutional although the new map isn't agreed upon yet all effective paragraph go ahead although the new map isn't agreed upon yet all affected parties will have the opportunity to submit their suggestions and the final outcome will likely put Republicans who hold a super majority in the Wisconsin house in a much worse position than they have been for the past DEC Wisconsin don't matter Wisconsin is considered a swing state in the presidential race with Biden having won in 2020 by less than three points so it doesn't matter and right now the polls say Trump's winning that state well oh after these after these uh districts get redrawn he's not going to have a chance to that's the whole point of this oh is that right yes do you Mom think that this is cheating to force them to rraw these districts of course it is they're trying to win at any cost right any way they can do it which is fair you said it's you said it's unconstitutional correct like that's what they the Wisconsin Supreme Court said the way the Republicans Drew these voting districts which contain uh 33 out of 50 senatorial districts have non-contiguous areas which means you'd have like a little circle here and then somewhere else way over on the map a little circle here and those two things are in one District makes no sense and why and why all of a sudden do we have to change it now because Trump's gonna win all the Democrats are scared this is a constant fight between the two political parties they're grasping at any little thing they can to try you know the with Jer mandering is something that do all Republicans and Democrats I was just trying to talk whenever you talked go ahead both parties do this both parties talk when both parties try to get their Jesus Christ both parties try to get the districts redrawn uh to favor themselves always this is constant the Republicans have been way worse about it the last whatever 20 years or so um but this is kind of correcting it a little bit and now the Democrats are going to step in and try to draw the Box around what whatever is going to be most favorable to them because they've won the Supreme Court they control uh most of the the high ranking people in that Court they're all liberal so isn't that fair play that's exactly what's happening in the actual Supreme Court right now the federal Supreme Court Trump has stacked it with these right-wing Maniacs who will support him now we're seeing the opposite happen don't you think that's fair I'm just tired of it all but is it fair is the question and where did Dad Nothing in life he left is he still sitting there Nothing in life is fair you know this okay is it fair I personally don't think any of this [ __ ] this is all [ __ ] noise noise White Noise okay there you go okay do you think there's no such thing it's black noise do you think other swing states where Republican Jerry mandering has made the vote lopsided in their favor are going to start seeing Corrections like this coming from their own Supreme Courts before the presidential election Haley yes yes I think the first one sets the [ __ ] president like with Trump you know getting taken off the ballot in Colorado more will follow suit it's the same [ __ ] scenario here as the as the uh election gets closer we're going to see all kinds of stuff because it Democrats ALC is going to lose her job because Trump is going to go to Brooklyn and campaign against her all right what I think yeah he's gonna make a trip to Brooklyn no president Republican uh candidate's ever done that because he thinks Brooklyn is about to turn on the squad the Democrats feel the crunch coming he's Biden's losing on every poll there is they're gonna go at arms length to do whatever they can to try to sabotage this election again but it's not going to happen and Trump will be your next president I have fireworks ready to go they will be popped in my street do you think that Republicans have done everything in their power to try and sabotage elections in their favor no but they're gonna yeah it's the only way to win do you agree to or admit to the idea that either party Republican or Democrat tries to redraw voting district to make it more favorable to them I've never heard of that until Jer manding called yeah I know what Jerry mandering is and no I don't believe that we've done it as much as the Democrats no but I'm saying do you think any political bodies do it well I don't understand what you mean you're talking about does Jerry mandering exist yes okay so you agree that whoever it is whether it's Democrats or Republicans they try to redraw voting districts to make it more favorable to them I I think the Republicans started doing it because they couldn't keep up with the Democrats doing it okay and all they're doing all all the Republicans are doing is employing the same nasty dirty tactics that the Democrats have been doing for decades okay let me ask this now the Democrats see them being carbon copied with their [ __ ] and they don't like it all right let me ask you this question we'll start with you Dad how do you think let's say that there are no voting districts they get wiped out and they all have to be redrawn how should they be drawn according to the population registration counties in is it counties is it squares what is it well it depends on how many votes like if you got 20 electoral votes in your state there should be 20 different boxes and what how should those boxes be drawn like I said the majority of registrations in that District right but should it be a square a circle a strange shape with a little dot here and a little dot there it should be a c it should be a square like a county or whatever here's what I think the way they redistrict whatever it's called Jerry Mandarin I don't think it's going to affect the National Power of stuff but the at the district level it will but I don't think like National level it would you're expec no it doesn't it won't in the general election won't make a godamn w't make a bit of difference because general election goes by counties it won't make a bit of difference all right Trump gonna win I'll tell you this right now Trump is gonna win Wisconsin he's gonna win Minnesota and it's not because of ger mandering it's because there's too many damn Muslims there huh what does that have to do with anything it has do with a lot this country is going to turn on those people I just found something the freedom to vote act creates a presumption that a redistricting plan is impermissible if it creates a partisan advantage of 7% or one congressional district whichever is greater yeah so so you're little SP National level it's not going to do anything you don't you guys don't follow all the way through to the end you jump on something sure that that flips in your favor and you think that's the law now Chad why you coughing you sick no I'm fine all right well let's move on we've got no got the Chinese flu you got the co yeah okay I have a good simmer down question today good simmer down good simmer down question Haley who is the greatest musical artists of all time you've already done this we've talked about this before yeah yes Mom was Michael you smoking dough my God you're losing it depends on it depends on how you're looking at it like are we talking about people who actually play instruments are we talking about no hang on if we've already asked this question we gotta we gotta think of something else who thought of one oh great what do you got what is your most favorite memory of Christmas with our family it could be old young teenager whatever age you were just one one yeah I got it that's easy for me got it Go Haley Nanny and popcorn's house probably 19 Nanny and popcorn are grandparents my mother's parents maybe 1990 uh their house I have so many from their house uh but specifically dad I was a fat kid and you guys bought me a dress for like Christmas Eve dinner and uh mom washed it and it shrunk and it didn't fit me anymore so my dad put this [ __ ] dress on I was what maybe like 10 I was about 10 yeah so he put a 10-year-old [ __ ] dress on and likeed for me yeah and he stretched it out for me so I could get it back on um and he ran around the house and [ __ ] trying to escape pictures but we got one um so that definitely yeah there's a photo of Dad running in that dress mom you have to put that up on this conversation he did that so you're saying you remember that because he did that out of love to stretch your dress out I was a fat kid dress shrunk and he said I'll put it on I'll stretch it back out for you and then it fit I'll never forget it what was the color of the dress red and black red black and gold and gold um my memory is slightly different it's the opposite I I don't know when this was sometime approaching 10 I think I remember telling you mom and dad that I knew Santa Claus wasn't real and we always had this thing at our grandparents house Nanny and popcorn's house where a literal Santa Claus would come in hand out presents to all the kids and I was like I know that that's just some guy you guys hire I see Nanny give him the check when he leaves and that year for Christmas from Santa I was given a shoe box full of coal this is true because you knew every gift you were getting and you kept rubbing it in her face about it so and did you ultimately end up with nothing but coal no I got some other presents but like the big Santa present was coal and should you be in therapy over that I guess now core memory yeah it is a core memory I'll never forget it as a bad memory what's that no it was a great memory I loved getting a shoe box full of coal it was very fun Mom what is your Christmas memory this isn't Christmas but I remember I remember setting the porch on fire uh during the Fourth of July one year at n and popcorn's house as well I have a lot of like I have a lot of meor I know I have a lot of good memories at Nanny and popcorn's house but it wasn't just straight Pyromania it was it was Fourth of July and I accidentally lit an entire box of fireworks that started going off on their por you guys remember the sweat Burgers your popcorn you cook out and when Chad lit that on fire and Haley they lit the porch on fire I remember my dad having the hose coming from the side um I think my mom and I had just got back from groceries my dad's going no problem pal I've got it covered and he and hosed it down yeah what are your your Christmas Memories mom one the one with Chad would be he used to get so worked up at Christmas because of the gifts that he usually had on uh pajamas or PJs laying on the couch waiting for gifts to unwrap because he would have a fever of 101 because he couldn't wait to unwrap the at at or it couldn't it wasn't that I got worked up over the presentence it was that Nanny popcorn's house was filled with smok and and it it was an environment that was like very conducive to lowering your immune system and then for fun we would play poker yeah no you work yourself up over the gifts and then Haley's would be um when Chad was probably five and we went out to St John Kansas to cut down the Christmas tree it was probably 10 o'clock at night the snow literally was glistening from the Moon uh dad and Chad little Club leg was running out there after his favorite tree yeah he had a club leg back then you had a brace on your leg Yeah he had a brace on is like he was like Little Joe what do you call that guy with the little crippled leg anyway OJ Little Joe I can see him I can see him and Dad out there running around and Chad was looking for the perfect tree Haley was in my arms as a baby uh with a bottle we we didn't get out it was so cold but I can see Chad and Dad out there running around and Haley was in my arms and I thought this is it this is perfection Dad what's your Christmas memory well mine goes takes me back to probably seven or eight years old we got snowed in at the farm couldn't get out so dad had to fire up the tractor he put we were all dressed up for midnight mass and me and uh my sister were hanging on to the wheel wells dad was driving the tractor mom was standing behind him hanging on and he drove us across this open field that had no tracks on it and it's like Mom said the snow was glistening and a friend picked us up in a in a truck at the when we got to the highway and we all went to midnight mass all right well there you have it those are our Christmas Memories some good ones some interesting ones some not so good and we've had some bad ones too yeah yes indeed uh but we hope everybody out there's having a good Christmas a good holiday season now it's time to jump back into the news mass shooting police had the opportunity to stop a mass shooting but didn't again roughly a year and a half after police in Uvaldi Texas stood by and let a mass shooting kill 18 children and two adults instead of intervening new information is emerging about police ineptitude in Maine's deadliest mass shooting which took place in October in which army reservist uh named Robert card killed 18 people police who declined to confront an army reservist in the weeks before he killed 18 people in Main's uh Dead's mass shooting feared that doing so would quote throw a stick of dynamite on a pool of gas according to a video released Friday by law enforcement this video has been released and it documents a September 16th call between a saga de Hawk County Sheriff Sergeant Aaron skolfield and army reservice Captain Jeremy reamer skolfield was following up with reamer about the potential threat posed by Robert card who was the mass shooter military officials alerted police in September the card had been hospitalized in July after exhibiting erratic Behavior while training uh that he still had access to weapons and that he threatened to quote shoot up the Army reserveer an MRI the sheriff's department responded by briefly asking about the Reserve Center and going to card's home for a welfare check in the video skolfield is heard mentioning that taking card's guns via Main's yellow flag law might be a kin to again throwing a stick of dynamite on a pool of gas and the police opted to intervene in no way whatsoever scoffield also referred to card as a big family in this area and said he didn't want to publicize that police were visiting his home a report released last week by Saga HW Sheriff Joel Mary made clear that local law enforcement knew months before the attack that card's mental health was deteriorating police were aware of reports that he was paranoid hearing voices experiencing psychotic episodes and possibly dealing with schizophrenia they were also aware that he had access to weapons attorneys uh for the shooting victim's family said the footage supports a pattern of police ignoring clear warning signs about card in the weeks prior to the shooting mom or dad is Mom there did she she she's here but she's holding Kitty all right Dad then do you think these cops failed at their job they they don't want to do their job anymore all it does is get you put in prison they just stay away from it well I mean this is probably gonna get them put in prison they won't get put in prison for this what's not taking action they're not going to go to jail that it's not a crime to not do anything they might some of these cops might get fired I would even doubt that though you get into more [ __ ] with all this wokeness in the world W and it's not gonna stop how does wokeness come into play here excuse me people are F huh what does this have to do with wokeness in any way oh that's what's costed it all huh he was literally like textbook police not woke that's as woke as it [ __ ] gets in my opinion this is why we should be defunding the police why are we paying these guys to not stop this you're not you're not paying these guys to do something you're paying them not do something you are now paying them not to do something that's what I'm saying did they fail at their job they are collecting a paycheck from the taxpayers job their job is to prove the left right that you don't need police that's why everybody's getting gunned down and murdered you don't need I'm being sarcastic here do what will president Trump do he will reinforce our police officers and tell them to go out you're ime you are immune from prosecution he's gonna say enforce the law go do your job but they're not these guys weren't gonna kick in this dude's door and shoot him in the head they were just supposed to potentially take his guns under Main's yellow flag law which they that's a law they can do that state of Maine and maybe then even get him checked into some kind of psychiatric care and they J their job but they didn't because they were afraid hey hey isn't isn't psych psychiatric valuation the job of the new uh woke movement that should bring in uh counselors and all that stuff to take care of it where were they where were our where this guy was reported as a credible threat report by people at the [ __ ] Army Reserve that M because somebody the Army Reserve called the police and said I think this guy's gonna do a mass shooting and they said ah [ __ ] it let him do it you know what you know what what you just brought up is not what you asked me and it's irrelevant no what I asked you is did the cops fail at their job here the stuff that you're bringing up is irrelevant what's you no longer have relevance Mr woke I'm asking you this question did these cops fail at their job yes or no no they did the job they're getting paid to do stay away and watch I'm afraid did they fail at their job yes because they should have went in there but if they went in and did anything against that person then that person would take him uh to jail and lock him up forever so you believe cops should be giv C launch to do whatever they want to anyone absolutely not if it's no no at this point in time yes yeah I mean they basically have that no they don't no they don't come on how many people are they just fck and right you're the one living in a [ __ ] world that doesn't [ __ ] exist I live in a world that exists okay but you're constantly saying woke doesn't matter woke doesn't exist Does it or doesn't it can cops kill people uh without repercussion or can't they woke put your hand mattered for about a year and it no longer matters now okay lgbtq A B C DFG is figuring that out already right coming their way and it woke doesn't matter so if it doesn't matter why didn't these cops stop this guy because it still matters in that state so it does still matter does it matter or does it not matter no it I'm talking about you get confused with little local [ __ ] compared to the National level local [ __ ] the biggest M shooting in the history of M okay I'm not gonna I'm not talking anymore why because I'm sick and tired of telling you the same [ __ ] thing that's factual and you sat here and argue with me like about you know what you are you're the [ __ ] Supreme Court from Colorado you make the [ __ ] rules and your rules are [ __ ] I'm out all right Mom uh should anything be done to these cops I don't know I'm afraid here's what I said I'm afraid if they would have went in and done anything like against that guy yeah then they would have went to prison that's where the cops are they're afraid cops are afraid I'm not cops are afraid no but why are they're not going to go into that guy's house and shoot him they just meant were meant to take his guns why aren't what if the guy shot first then the cop shot back and killed him but then they said oh he didn't shoot first stuff like that that's what's scary now all right well that's why we wear cop cams um well yeah there you go I don't let let me ask you this mom clearly you know we talk about mass shootings being like a you especially on the Republican side a lot of people like to say it's a mental health issue here that is true and this guy was screened he was found to be a threat that threat was reported to the police and nothing was done about it so what can we do to stop mass shootings it's not about saying that it's a mental health issue which I agree it is but it doesn't matter because even when that's found out nothing happens would you have been afraid to go through that door and ask for his gun when you know he's do I don't care these are cops that's your job if you want to be a cop if you're afraid you have to overcome that fear to move into action to do that job and that's probably why we don't have a lot of them anymore yeah but I mean that's I think they're afraid of the backlash I think they're afraid of the backlash now because um of what can happen to them but there should be backlash don't give a [ __ ] that's what I think too I think it's like too much effort give [ __ ] yeah like yeah he's got some guns and he's crazy whatever H whatever and then as long as you're able to like when a mass shooting does pop off like this and you had the chance to stop him as long as you're able to be like defer blame well my boss told me I don't know or this guy was supposed to do it wasn't me as long as you can defer BL they should all be fired fired I have something to interject here okay it only take a second sure uh back back on the reason for the season the baby Jesus is still my favorite Jesus Oh yes we know oh dear God let's move on we have one final topic here Trump on tape Craig magger of the Detroit News broke a story this week that involved audio tapes of Donald Trump personally pressuring two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of canvers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election and ultimately offering to in quotes take care of getting them attorneys if needed why are you why are you emphasizing words and [ __ ] because he said take care I'm emphasizing because it's a direct quote from Donald Trump we'll take care of that take care of your legal problems if you do this illegal thing for me you're terrible you're terrible Palmer and Hartman left the caners meeting without signing the official statement of votes for Wayne County and the following day they unsuccessfully attempted to resend their votes in favor of certification filing legal affidavits claiming they were pressured so there's legal documentation by these two people that he was on a phone call with saying they were legally pressured and there's a tape of the phone call of him legally pressuring you ever gonna bring me anything that matters the moves from Palmer Hartman and Trump have been uh had they been successful threatened to throw the Statewide certification of Michigan's 2020 election into doubt the Revelation contents of the call with the former president comes as he faces four counts of criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States and its voters of the rightful outcome of the election efforts to prevent certification of democrat Joe Biden's 154,000 vote victory in Michigan are an integral part of that indictment the recordings very very clearly demonstrate the direct involvement of trump as an incumbent president with Republican officials in Michigan in a bid to undermine Biden's win those tapes are AI okay he thinks they're fake yes okay is this the Smoking Gun Haley I think it's one of I think there's probably more I mean if they have one I feel like they've got more so I mean uh yeah one of them certainly I agree to me the most important thing or most interesting thing about these tapes is the fact that they exist because it really shows that nobody trusted Donald Trump in any of this [ __ ] so supposedly how these tapes were made was Trump calls these two canvassers there are other people like AIDS and [ __ ] with them they get into a car to take the call and the [ __ ] AIDS or whoever else was with them get in the backseat of that car flip their [ __ ] recorders on in their phone and they're just recording it all and so that means that even these people that Trump thought were loyalists in the Republican party in Michigan thought that he could get them to do his dark bidding they themselves are recording his phone calls because they knew that it was illegal they knew he was up to bad [ __ ] mom do you think it's a Smoking Gun no doesn't matter doesn't matter I don't I don't think it's real I think they're just wait you don't think these recordings are real yeah you're in a panic you understand that people bringing [ __ ] like this to light if they're not real they go to [ __ ] prison you are you are I'm not in a panic panic I'm in a panic you're the ones who open every podcast saying if we don't win this next election our way of life is over I have never said that I don't that's not a panic that's not Panic what I think fact what I think is funny is you pick up on this stuff for us to talk about but three days ago they now have Biden on some recordings and and emails in regard to um all the big officials and Hunter but we never talk about that I have said this so many times I can't count if you want to produce this show an episode of it or even a segment any portion of it all you have to do is email me what you want to talk about I'll even still do the document I'll even do all the work of it just send me what you want to talk about Chad you're doing a very good job you're producing very well but to me and a lot of my friends a lot of my DMs they say it's very biased I look I'm happy to turn over control of this entire thing to you or Dad or whoever if you guys want to produce an episode or even a segment and I'm not even saying you have to do the work of it just send me a link to an article about whatever the thing is I'll put it in I'll include it I'm not arguing I'm not going to argue with you on Christmas Day and the baby Jesus day but I do think it's a little biased I knew you wouldn't bring up the I'm telling you if there's something you absolutely want to talk about send me the link I'll make sure it's in the thing I'm I'm up at 1: a.m cobbling this [ __ ] together the night before the shows so you can't complain about the topics if you don't submit your topics okay I'll I'll submit them obiously you do it the night before the show Because by the time the show starts the stuff you're talking about it's already old news oh God anytime you want to produce it I'd love to see you host host one of these and produce all four segments Dad do you have any interest I can turn this into a comedy show you would not believe maybe next episode do you want to produce the next episode I don't need to produce it I'll just set in and start throwing my one liners out here oh god oh you're in up over your neck on that budy boy um you in up over your neck guy who's the guy that stood up in front of people in a bookstore and read your filthy book I did yeah oh that that was a nice you can't embarrass me Merry Christmas I'm not trying to embarrass anyone okay do you Mom do you care at all that Trump is on tape encouraging public officials to commit fraud in a presidential election yeah it's probably not the goodest the goodest the best thing the goodest yeah probably not the best thing but again is it real who knows yes it is okay that doesn't make you question him even just a little [ __ ] bit no no why shady is that possible he's on tape trying to convince people to throw out the actual election results in a presidential election yes he is on tape's on tape yes well you ought to know you're an expert on his voice so you people yeah it's it's a original Donald Trump then right you know like I have been corroborated it's they are real by who who have corroborated them plenty of journalists at this point who who journalist the guy who wrote this article for one Craig mauu of the Detroit News he was the one who broke this story there you go what I what I see Detroit what I think is funny to mind on what I think is funny I know you say we always flip it but like I'll watch TV were that what's the redheaded lady that we just can't stand how she says MSNBC yeah she goes the old former White House Press Secretary it starts with Jen Pak yeah how she says that there is no a total of 150 viewers on a national no evidence against Biden at all for any crime that he did there isn't so far she's going to jail they're uncovering these emails they're uncovering stuff and we'll see that'll all play out in a court just as all of Trump's things are doing but this piece of evidence which is going to be used in this case against him is it's pretty hard to deny he's on tape asking these people to not certify the [ __ ] votes in the presidential election yeah he probably thinks that's a a medal of honor probably what do you mean Medal of Honor like he's probably proud he asked them to do that I guess I don't know I just but you think it's wrong right you think that's wrong yeah that's that's not right but look so Trum is not infallible what I'm trying to say is I have to weigh which site is the worst and right now of course it's Biden it's not even close do you Donald Trump has tried to overthrow the [ __ ] government he's tried to throw away [ __ ] votes like when that when this th this is what we're talking about this that's overthrowing the government yes it is saying oh dear God the number one thing in my opinion maybe not the number one but one of the most important things about the American democracy is that we have this peaceful transfer of power and that the election sticks whatever the people say is who the president he's trying to say what Trump was trying to do is I know Joe Biden won the election I don't like that outcome so I'm going to cheat to overturn it that's what he was trying to have happen no what he was trying to say is Joe Biden uh cheated to win by dead people voting by ballots that were lost by this by that so he was trying to balance it out that's my opinion you cannot be this St that's how you rationalize like you literally cannot be this oh hel is stupid it is like this is christas to you too it's not a stupidity though it's not stupidity it is it's a at this point God a thing that's been about a decade long brainwashing that's happened it's a disease like it's it's [ __ ] insane how about what they're doing to Giuliani you think that's fair Jesus Christ juliani you know what you know what okay I shouldn't have brought it up what never mind never mind did he say something else I got yeah you might need to listen no I don't think he said it fat black dead beats okay Merry Christmas like you have to understand though that this is wrong correct what he did was wrong no like I said he's dad doesn't think it's real I don't know I haven't even heard it first time I heard it was when Chad brought up today so I need to go I need to investigate and read more about it I would like I would like to have that the Russian disinformation was wrong okay and the lap laptop was wrong too yeah that was wrong yeah and all the hookers he paid for and all the cocaine yeah that was all wrong yeah so you do agree that he has he's no well that is the the the real bottom line here in America it's what you believe which means the s are [ __ ] meaningless and so if you're looking at it's just who do you hate more you guys hate Biden so all of the illegal [ __ ] that you think Biden is doing is true you guys love Trump so all the illegal [ __ ] that he's doing even if there's like hardcore evidence like a tape of him doing it you guys say that's AI that doesn't exist understand I said no like I said I need to research that I didn't know about it all right definitely research it because it is real it is happening and I'm not advoc for or against Trump or Biden I don't like either one of them I think they both do very shady [ __ ] and it's just a matter of can they get caught in it that really is the game of American politics now it's how much money can I get from corporations and do illegal [ __ ] to enrich myself and get away with it here's what I'm they are getting away with it every day they get away with it here's what I'm afraid of I I truly the two fat women that are suing I truly believe that our United States has gotten more stupid instead of smart so I I saw something on TV where they asked this girl uh young girl walking down the streets in New York um about um CA Harris and do you really like her as vice president oh yeah she's great uh do you like her policies I love all her policies yes and they said what is one of her policies and she couldn't come up with one so see that's what's going on with our country too that scares me yeah but I mean policies of Vice Presidents well she's supposed to be she was supposed to be in charge of the Border didn't do a damn thing there but yeah well I think we're in uh a very bad situation in America politically and in many other ways but we're at a point in human history where the billionaire CEOs of large corporations really control all of it or at least in America I know in Russia it's a little bit different the oligarchs are kind of woven into the fabric of of politics there but here you have giant corporations pharmaceutical corporations energy corporations like Exxon they are the ones who actually are writing most of our laws and control almost all of it and the politicians are just kind of their little puppets that get up there to do the dance so that it seems like we have a choice choose this team or this team but ultimately doesn't matter because the corporations own both teams e in my humble opinion what's he talking about back there I don't know I'm talking to Mom just zip it go ahead is he just gone now he's he's away he's looking at news backs and reading the blue at the bottom and saying looky there look at there I told him to zip it for a minute all right well that uh wraps up our show thank you everyone for joining us and for joining us all this year 2023 has been a wild one uh we hope everybody's having a great holiday season with your friends family however you're celebrating it and 2024 is right around the corner and we know what that means 2024 presidential election is going to be coming up we're going to be doing the show through that and uh obviously we've all made some predictions about it and we'll see what winds up happening will uh Joe Biden be the next president will it be Donald Trump will we descend into a chaotic Civil War that has my dad in the streets shooting whoever he can sniff out as a Democrat we'll have what was that magazine you just bought andry rles and handguns Henry rifles and handguns just came in the mail the other day cool uh my God as we're talking about this whole episode had to think about mass shooting and it and Dad's talking about how he's literally going to go out in the street and kill people and he's buying gun magazines do we need to call the uh main police so they another MRI he said he needs another MRI yes I agree before we go as always we we have had these political differences but we we must come together as a family Haley I love you Mom I love you Dad wherever you are I love you I'm sorry I called you stupid that was not very nice I just simply cannot believe that you cannot believe facts it's infuriating Mom I love you dad I love you Chad I love you Chad I love you Haley I love you I'm not stupid I think you and in chat are stupid I love you Bob I can't believe you two I raised you smart but now you're over on the other side and that kills me I'm not on the other side that's what kills me I don't know how many of these episodes we have to do where I say I don't like Joe Biden either I don't like either one of them I think the entire American political system is totally [ __ ] it's so corrupt from top to bottom and even if somebody gets into that system and wants to do good you're there for two years that's out the window you realize you're up against a fcking brick wall so you might as well make some money that's what happens to every one of them okay I say we just go I love you Chad I love you haly you Mar and I hate all Democrats I think we just need to go into the AI world and just make cute AI things that's what I'm gonna do me too that is some common ground right there but uh thank you everybody for joining us again we hope you have a great holiday if you want to send us a question in 2024 send a one minute or shorter audio clip to the necessary conversation pod gmail.com and uh we'll see you in the 2024 presidential election year for our next episode wow okay bye bye dad was crazy