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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culchin. With me is my sister and my headbanging mom wearing her best Trump hat of all weeks to wear it this week. Very interesting.
Uh we're going to be getting into the top six political issues of this week before we begin. Mom, do you have a didy?
I've got a couple things I'd like to say. Thank you, Haley. She did uh give me Uber Eats this week from Kava. did it from her phone, sent food to my house. So, I need to get on that and put it on my phone because I'm tired of going out every day at 106 degrees. Get lunch for me and your father. Thank you, Haley, for Uber eating me.
Patriot. Patri. Haley, are you awake? What's going on over there? Me? Yeah. What do you mean? You're what Trump would call low energy. She was up late last night.
Tell him what you did late last night. It's It is beyond that. I'm just a I'm very busy and I have a lot going on.
Oh, and then she attends concerts late at night. Yeah, she went to a late night concert that I would I would have went with her. I love these guys that she went and saw. I would listen. I know I know you're busy and you pod and you work and you pod and you work.
You don't have children and you don't have a managerie of pets. So if you want to Yeah, but you always like, oh, aren't we all I don't actually think that you can comprehend the level of like how much [ __ ] we pack into a day.
Okay. I really how much [ __ ] I pack into a day. By 7 o'clock, I have to go to bed. But that's okay. We're all here.
Welcome to [ __ ] Packers, where we discuss who is packing the most [ __ ] into a day. Okay. What do you have? Another diddy mom.
Yes. This one kind of bugged me. Y'all are going to jump on me for this one, but I don't care. It's been bugging me. I saw in your state, Haley, at DFW airport, they want to um they want to put in feet, hand, and face washing um areas. And it's called something. and it's a dedicated little room to washing their feet hand and face before prayer.
There are some in um in George Bush in Houston already near gate 15. It's a dedicated room that Islamic people can do this before prayer. But at DFW, Greg Abbott sent that to Shawn Duffy and he said no. So in DFW it's a no. I have trouble with this for one thing. Now that is religious that is taking over at airports. Religious things that people want to do.
What about the Catholics that before they go into airports? Universal chapels are fine. They're wanting the holy water to clean themselves before prayer. Now Catholics as they go in to pray anoint themselves with holy water too and make the sign of the cross and genict. So then would we implement that in all airports for Catholics? And then what would the next religion be that would want to do it too? It's really bugged me. It's bugged me and I just wanted to bring that up.
Okay. What do you guys think about it? Who gives a [ __ ] But I just don't I don't give a [ __ ] Like hospitals have, you know, chapels with Christian iconography all over the walls. airports have Christian churches that you can go into.
They have chapels for universal praying. This is a little different to me because it's just one specific religion wanting one thing and I just don't think we can do that at all airports. So, it kind of bugged me.
Well, you're living in a country where one specific religion has outlawed abortion, right? Has outlawed what? Abortion. What you mean is is you don't the United States. Well, our current government, our current government is trying to make this a Christian nation and it's not. So, I think that your problem isn't with the fact that it's like, you know, they're putting religion in the airports. It's the fact that it's you're Islamophobic
or I guess you can go to Massachusetts too now for your late term abortions also. Okay, moving along. What? All right. Uh, we have a question this week. If you would like to send us a question, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Email it to the necessary conversationpodgmail.com. In the subject line, write the word question or I will not look at it. This is our question for this week. Here we go.
Hello, Colgen family. My name's Julie. My question today is for all of you and it's about loyalty. What's your personal definition of loyalty? And is it possible to be loyal to a friend or family member if you have different religious or political views than they do? And if there's a conflict, is it more important to be loyal to our constitution or to our leaders? Thanks, Santa. I love your show.
All right. Question about loyalty. What is loyalty to you, Mom? I'd take a bullet for both of you. If you murdered someone, I'd go get you out of jail.
Oh [ __ ] You gonna get you gonna like do Goonies style and slam into the side of the the jail house and [ __ ] get us out?
I have sources. I have sources I could use. Okay. What the [ __ ] Okay. Is this Scientology [ __ ] Is there something we don't know?
No. Your father and I have sources. That's all I'm going to say. To get people out of prison. Anything. I could do whatever I needed to do to save both of you.
Okay. What if the reason we were in jail is because we killed Trump? I'd still get you out of jail. Still get us.
Okay. I'd still get you out of jail, but then I'd have to spank you both. I knew that was coming. I knew you were going to say that literally verbatim. I knew that was coming. Yeah.
All right. So, for you, it's about self-sacrifice and doing anything you can to help that person, no matter what situation they're in, no matter what they've done.
Yeah. It take a bullet for both of you. Yep. Okay. And so would your father. But but don't put it just on us. What about like loyalty to Trump? The question, the second part of that question was, is it more important to be loyal to in this case the Constitution or to Trump?
Well, it would be to family first. Yeah. And then ah that's a our country country over Trump. Well like right now right now it's to me it's these wars have got to get over. They've got to get over. He needs stop it.
Well I understand but that's not the question. The question is, is it more important to be loyal to the Constitution, the founding doctrine of this country, or to the leaders currently in power?
I think both. I think they're intertwined. They interrelate. I think both. Okay, Haley. Okay. Well, I have no loyalty to any politics. I have no loyalty to any of that. Um, I'm allowed to change my mind and uh cut and run whenever I want to. Um, loyal loyalty to my family for sure. Very similar to mom. Um, I would literally do anything for my family.
For you. Would you? I think I would. Yeah, I think I would. I think I would die. I think I would die for quite like all of you guys. I think I would.
Yeah, certainly. My children, my husband, you guys. Yes, I would. Hopefully, we won't have to put that to the test. Um, I agree that or I would say like, let me take this backwards. The the politics part of this, I don't have any loyalty to any politician. I don't even really have loyalty to the Constitution, honestly. It's a [ __ ] piece of paper. I don't give a [ __ ]
To me, the base kind of ideology that I subscribe to in terms of like treatment of people is the golden rule. essentially try to put yourself in that person's shoes. Whatever they may be going through, you don't know the extent of it. Just like Haley said, she's packing in more [ __ ] than any of us, and none of us can understand. I take that at face value.
Thank you. Thank you. Empathize. So, no politician or or piece of paper is going to like um sway me, I guess, in terms of familial or personal relationships with loyalty. I I kind of side with you guys. I think it is about to some degree uh personal sacrifice in service of helping that person if they're in a bad situation or even if they just need your help for any any reason. Um and certainly family, some of my friends I feel like I have that level of loyalty too. But I I think ultimately it boils down to it's loyalty to the relationship almost over the person, you know,
because a person can do something that can make you be like, "Wait, what the fuck?" And then you have to sever the loyalty to that relationship. You know what I mean?
Anyways, thank you very much for your question. If you have those questions, like I said, record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Email it to the necessary conversation [email protected] with the word question in the subject line. We now begin the main portion of our program. Our first topic is the USS Abraham Lincoln. This ship left San Diego in November 2025 for a routine Pacific deployment, but was redirected to the Middle East in January ahead of the USIsraeli war in Iran. It's now been at sea more than 260 days, over 200 without a port call. That's where it goes into port, you get to restock,
etc., etc. This is the longest continuous deployment in the modern era. Reports describe exhaustion, declining morale, suicidal thoughts and attempts, rationed food, and broken amenities aboard the roughly 5,000 person crew. One sailor attempted to jump to his death from the side of the ship on August 3rd and was recovered safely. Families report additional cases, including one sailor who intervened to stop a shipmate from attempting suicide by similar means. Iran claims a fight broke out on board that resulted in seven deaths, but mainstream media and the US government deny the claim. Trump was asked if if the deployment was too long, and he said, "It's not been nearly
long enough." Currently, the USS George Washington is heading to the Middle East to replace the Lincoln, but it will not arrive till later this month. Exth denied the reporting on these incidents, calling the accounts misrepresented. Meanwhile, almost 200 family members of servicemen and women on board the USS Abraham Lincoln gathered in San Diego to confront Navy leadership, voicing anger over conditions, poor communication, and fears their loved ones will be punished or harm themselves. Mom, we have Navy service members trying to kill themselves because the conditions on board their ship are so bad. Do you think Trump is doing a good job as commander and chief of our armed forces?
Yes, I do. The most important part of this story is that ship is coming home. It is sad that the families did have to bring it up to the attention and they're saying that a lot of them the stories were disputed which we'll see when this ship gets home and and these soldiers start to talk. But I do remember
they're talking now. Hang on. Hang on. They're talking now. You're Do you believe this guy tried to kill himself by jumping off the boat?
Do you believe that happened? I don't know. I mean, I don't know. You're just telling me. I guess if you're telling me, I guess it did that he did.
I'm not telling you. This has been widely reported across the world. Well, then that's pretty bad. Very bad. Right. And multiple other sailors have tried to do similar things and they were stopped. Was this the story that we talked about a long time ago that said they they didn't have enough food, not enough rations, and they're still out there going on?
Yes, it's getting worse every day. Well, the most important thing is they're coming home. But I did look up um there was a a US Navy ship that was the longest recorded ever. It wasn't the one we're talking about. It was for 495 days. It was called the USS Hornet in uh World War II. It was out there for 495 days.
Not without port of call. This is the longest a ship has ever been just sitting in the water without going into a port.
I think this one was it was continuous time at sea. But no, that's it's a different thing. I read about this, too. So, it's irrelevant. So, we're talking about today, we're talking about now. And we're talking about wartime and how bad it is. And that is bad. That is bad. As I'm just happy that ship's coming home. Bring him home.
But the question I'm asking you is Donald Trump is the commanderin-chief of the armed forces. He controls all of this. Right. You have right now people on this ship trying to kill themselves because the conditions are so bad. And you believe Donald Trump is doing a good job as commander-in-chief
over all of the war. He is trying the best he can to get this war quit and stop. I I didn't ask if he's trying the best he can. I said, do you think he's doing a good job as the steward of all of our armed services men and women out there?
Yes, I do, Chad. Okay. Wow. Why do you think then when the question was asked about uh Oh, Haley, are you with us?
Yes, you guys are both glitching out to me. Um, what about Pete Hespath? What about Pete Hespath? Uh, basically refuting what's going on. He's he's downplaying it, calling these sailors liars.
Yeah, he needs to get his butt on that ship and see He needs to be fired. And Donald Trump is at the [ __ ] helm.
The ship's coming home. Thank God. But when Trump was asked, "Do you think they've been out there too long?" He said, "Not nearly long enough." He wants to keep them out there.
Could that statement might have been, "We need another ship out there to replace them." And he didn't say it correct. You know, why do you do that? Why do you do that?
They haven't been out there long enough. Meaning that ship needs to stay or another one needs to come. Meaning he doesn't give a [ __ ] about them.
If he did, this wouldn't have happened. I don't agree with you, Chad. What do you mean that? This is a direct quote from him.
He says weird stuff like that. Yeah, weird anti-military stuff. He does not respect the troops. A person tried to kill himself by jumping off the side of the boat because they've been out there too long. And Trump says, "They haven't been out there long enough. I want to see more suicide attempts."
If if um if he did not respect our troops, we would not have troops fighting for us in this war. So that's what I believe.
What the [ __ ] What kind of logic is that? If they didn't believe in our country and our president, they wouldn't be there fighting for us. And they are.
No. Now you're rephrasing [ __ ] What? Look, I I mean, I'm not going to speak on behalf of everybody in the military. I have never served in the military, but I have to imagine a lot of people in the military are doing it for a job that has great benefits, that pays pretty well, and that gives you the opportunity to travel the world in some capacity and learn a lot of very good skills that you can take into a private sector job after you come out of the military. I think a lot of people
Yes. and protect our country if needed. That's why people of course but I don't think the entirety of the US military is like I love Donald Trump I will fight and die for him. I think almost no one is like that.
I think they do it for our country. Presidents come and go and change. I think you join for the country. That's your dad when he joined the Air Force. It was for the country. But
was it for the GI bill? It also was to get a job, to get an education. Yes. Yeah. Okay. But if he would have been called up to go to Vietnam, he would have went.
Yeah. They made Yeah. He didn't have much of a choice there. It was that or jail. Um but I want to go back to this thing you're saying that you think Donald Trump is doing a good job as the commander-in-chief. How is this a good job? We've now been in this war months longer than he said it was going to take. There is no clear end. There is no clear objective for victory. There's no measure by which we can say we have won this war. Time to leave. That doesn't exist.
Everything. Uhhuh. Now you've got people jumping off of ships to try and kill themselves because that is preferable than serving one more minute on board the ship that Donald Trump is in control of. How do you think that makes him good as a commander-in-chief? I think he is doing the best he can in both wars that we are in to try to get them stopped.
You keep saying best he can. Yes. But is that good? It's not good enough is what I'm saying. The best he can do is bad because you have service members trying to kill themselves.
I hope that story is not true. I really do. It is true. It's been reported everywhere. Why can't you just believe facts? Why can't you just believe facts? You're like, I don't know. I'm have to look into that. You don't have to look into it. It's [ __ ] fact. That one I never read. You told me about it today and I hope it's not true.
This guy's wife has talked about it. His family has talked about it. What do you think? All these 200 families going to confront Navy leadership? You think they're just like making [ __ ] up?
No, I'm glad. I'm glad they are. I'm glad they're speaking up. There you go. So, the story is real. And it's not isolated to this one person. It's multiple people on that ship are writing to their families saying, "It is living hell on board this ship. We've been out here for way too long. People are going crazy. We have nothing to eat. The toilets don't work."
Well, enough attention has been brought and it is not it's a terrible thing that our military did that to them. But there's our military
and he h Seth the administration just say it like that. Trump is the administration thing is they're coming home. Thank God in weeks. They've got to stay out there for weeks until that other ship gets there.
That other ship's already gone. Correct. It's going to take weeks to get there. Well, the these giant ships don't teleport. Hopefully, they can hang on till they get there.
Okay, so you don't care about this. Very interesting. Moving on. Our second topic, shock gloves. This week, we learned that ICE plans to spend approximately $20 million to purchase devices known as CTG5 gloves. These are gloves that can deliver painful electric shocks to whoever the agent touches. The gloves resemble ordinary patrol gloves until an officer activates the electrical function using a switch. The device must be pressed against a person's skin to administer a localized shock causing intense pain designed to force the victim into compliance. The manufacturer's own user user manual warns that the gloves can cause serious injury or death. Mom, should I ice be
given a new way to kill people? No. And on my number two, I don't know if you can see it. It says, "Are you serious?"
Do you believe this? This one I kind of do. Okay. So, this one you believe, but the person tried to kill themselves on the USS Abraham Lincoln. You don't believe?
Well, this one I did cuz I Googled it. Okay. And I um chat GBTE it and this one said yes. That it was true that they're going to use these gloves.
Yeah. It's beyond my comprehension. I can't believe it. It's like what they do to cows with a cattle prod. It's ridiculous. Why do you think, Mom, that Trump wants ICE to be able to electrocute people to death?
I have no idea. Just think about it. Why would he Okay, this I don't I really don't know. Because he's cruel and he likes to see people suffer. It's the same reason he said our military has not been out there nearly long enough. He's cruel and he likes to see people suffer. It's the same reason he is down with Netanyahu bombing the [ __ ] out of Gaza. He is cruel. He likes to see people suffer.
When I did read it, I couldn't believe it. It's terrible. Haley, do you think they will kill somebody with these gloves? 100%. Absolutely. Because you know who I say is they're like the bottom of the [ __ ] barrel. They're criminals.
Yeah. So you have [ __ ] criminals with weapons like literally on their hands. It's going to be so easy to [ __ ] kill someone.
Yep. And it's a new toy. You know, they're just going to be raring to use these things out on the field on protesters, old people, whoever they come into contact with.
But it does it is in contact with the skin. So, I imagine like, you know, every protester at this point is just going to be like suited up, no skin showing.
Yeah. Also, masks, [ __ ] all of it. I don't know if this still exists, but I think it does. There is a jacket that is made that can be electrified. And this is like a I think it was marketed to women who have to like walk to their cars late at night and stuff. You put on the jacket, you turn it on, and if anybody touches the jacket, they get zapped.
I'm like, do protesters need to start wearing that [ __ ] I feel like there's going to be a protester uniform in existence very soon. Like it's it's going to be a collective. We're like, "Okay, this is what you need. This is what you wear." Uh because how do you combat something like that? You have to.
Yeah. It's interesting, too, the shock glove. It's like, is there a way, speaking of like a protester uniform, that you could wear something that like reverses it back at them or something? I don't know.
Exactly. I would love to see something like that. Yeah. Let's have a bunch of ICE agents get fried with their own [ __ ] gloves,
right? I mean, you have to you just have to be smarter than them and they're all [ __ ] So, I feel like there's something that can be done about this.
What if a crazy guy or woman that was on drugs like came at you and they had a gun or a knife, they were going to come at you and get you instead of killing them.
Is that what you have you ever had that experience, Mom? Use the glove. No, they're they're saying it so that they can just walk up and shock the [ __ ] out of people. They want to be able again to visit pain and suffering on whoever they encounter without any repercussion, without any accountability. That's ICE.
We've already seen them dome. Basically, it's this. ICE knows and Trump knows. We can't have any more videos of ICE just executing people in the streets with guns. So, how do we get the gun out of their hand, but still give them a way to kill people? Now, we give them electric gloves like a [ __ ] Marvel comics super villain,
but they also want people scared, you know? They want you they want you terrified so you don't protest. So, it just makes their job kidnapping people, you know, that much easier.
Yeah. They can kill people with the gloves or just stun them. I'll read again. The manufacturer's own user user manual warns that the gloves can cause serious injury or death.
Yeah. Gosh, ridiculous. I abolish ICE. I've said this. They're not doing right anymore. Right. But the reason that we bring this up, I know you say abolish ICE. The reason that I've brought this up is because not only are we not abolishing ICE, Trump is giving them more tools to kill people.
Right. What can I say? It's terrible. You can say uh Trump is no longer my president. I think he is a bad president. You can say that.
I think he's got people is bad. He's got people in the military trying to kill themselves rather than serve another day in Trump's Navy.
Now he's giving ICE another tool to kill people that's even more sinister than just a gun. Two X's probably there. Yes. All right, let's see if we can get a third X. Trump is still trying to put his name on the Kennedy Center. This week, Trump tried once again to get his name on the Kennedy Center. A board hand selected by Trump voted last year to rename it the Trump Kennedy Center. In May 2026, Judge Christopher Cooper found that renaming the venue violated federal law, requiring it to honor President Kennedy and President Kennedy alone, writing that only Congress can change the center's name. He set a June 12th
deadline for removal of Trump's name. On June 13th, one day after the deadline, workers took down the letters in a pre-dawn operation and then installed a giant tarp and scaffolding immediately afterward to obscure the entire front of the building. The tarp has covered the facade continuously since then. Trump is using the tarp as a sour grapes method to obscure the facade of the building if he can't have his little name on it. In July, appeals judges denied Trump's ego maniacal request to halt the name removal. This week, the Trump aligned board voted 20 to3 to put Trump's name back on the building, reportedly to
honor him for bringing the center back from quote the brink of disaster. A direct test of Judge Cooper's order. A status report on construction plans and the purpose of the tarp is due this coming week. Mom, why do you think Trump wants his name on this building so bad? I don't care and I don't know and who cares whether his name is on it or not.
The first time it was blocked, it was blocked by a district judge that was on um that was appointed by Obama. So, we know why it was blocked then.
I really don't care what his name's on, let him because whoever comes in next, if it's if it is Democratic, it's going to take it down. Who cares?
It already has a name. Why do we need to change it? Because he was on some big committee there or something. And that's why he wanted it on there.
No. No. That's wrong. He helped renovate it or something. No. Wrong. No. Wrong. Why? He hand selected almost every He hand selected almost everyone on that committee.
Okay. Specifically for this purpose so that he could have his name put on the building. He's been quoted as saying he wants his name on every building. He is a [ __ ] egoomaniac who and in this case he tried to do it. A judge said no. He put up a tarp that's like fine, then no one will be able to see the front of the building in a little baby move. And now he's appealing it again and trying to do it again. The reason I bring it up, I know you say who cares, whatever, and I agree this is kind of a frivolous he's just
like a a skin deep kind of like thin skinned piece of [ __ ] We all know that. That's what this is about. Why Why do you think he put up that tarp?
I thought he helped renovate it or something. No. Why do you think he put up that tarp? So no one can see anything.
Correct. That is a [ __ ] you. If I can't have my name on it, then you don't get to see it either.
It's it's a very childish move. The reason that I bring this up is because he has gotten us into a war where now sailors are trying to commit suicide rather than serve one more day in that war. Prices for everything are escalating and skyhigh. He doesn't give a [ __ ] He's been on record saying, "I don't care how expensive things are getting for people." The country is in the [ __ ] toilet. And he cares about this. He's spending chunks of his time every day not trying to get us out of the war, not trying to figure out how to make things affordable for average
Americans, not trying to get us universal healthcare. Instead, he's spending his time putting up tarps and appealing these [ __ ] judges decisions so he can get his name on a building. That's what's important to him. Hello.
Yes. And what do you think about that? Like I said, I don't care. Okay. You don't care that he's spending time and effort and taxpayer money to try and put his name on the Kennedy Center instead of trying to get us out of this war that he started.
Of course, I care about that and you know that. Okay. But you just said you don't care. I think there's bigger problems in his name on a building.
I agree with you. So why is he focused on it? Like I said, I thought he renovated it. That's why. Okay. And I'm telling you that's wrong. And so now
So now, what would you have felt if Barack Obama did this? Would you feel more about that scenario than you do this one?
No, I would. I mean, everybody wants names on things. Let them do it because the next group that comes in is going to take them down and take down statues, take down buildings like they always have.
They haven't always. That's a farce. Also, you are lying. You would 100% be [ __ ] angry if it was Barack Obama or Joe Byron.
Joe Byron. Who's Joe Byron? Have you not you've never seen that meme? Have you never seen that? No, they interview the they interview people in New York City and one of them's like, "And that Joe Viron, you've never seen that."
No, whatever. You're making fun of me that you guys are [ __ ] chopped and unk. Never disputed that. Um, well, I guess mom doesn't care about the fact that he's just wasting his time. And and by the way, the the Kennedy Center name on that building is just one it's kind of like right now emblematic of all of it. He wants to put a golden statue of himself on top of buildings. He wants to put the ark to Trump. He wants to have that thing generated. It's the reflecting pool.
It's the ballroom. It's the putting gold everywhere in the White House. It's all of these things that are meant to glorify him by putting his name and image all over as much [ __ ] as he possibly can have it. and he is concerned with that over the wars, the affordability, all of the bad [ __ ] that's going on in our country that he has started. He cares more about putting his name on [ __ ] than he does about fixing actual problems. That's what I'm trying to get you to see with this. But I guess you don't see it that way.
A lot of older people as they get old like that and they're rich. That's what they do. It doesn't bug me, but it he needs to get focused back on the big things. Yes.
Did Biden try to put his name on the Kennedy Center? I don't think so. But also, a lot of old people, this is the [ __ ] president of the United States. That's not just your ordinary old rich person.
You shouldn't be able to do [ __ ] like this. It's grotesque. Okay. Just like you're down with the fact that he became a billionaire while in office, right? You're like, "Well, he's old. He deserves to make money." Well,
is that supposed to be my accent? That's pretty funny. Do you feel that way? I think he is a smart businessman. We've talked about this before.
How so? Okay. By being fraudulent. Yeah, he's he's corrupt. He's committing crimes. I like that just makes you unintelligent. I guess I am. Whatever.
No, I don't think that that's that you're unintelligent. I think you're kind of willfully ignoring what's going on. I think you get that he's corrupt and that he's lying and cheating and stealing. I think you see that. We talk about it almost every week.
I see some of it, but all presidents in the past have done this. But Chad's going to say, but not on the level that Donald Trump has.
No other president has done this. It's It's not even on the level either. last week or maybe it was a week before he floated the idea of selling early access to his tweets about stocks to people for $100,000 a month. You would get like a day earlier his tweets about here's the deals we're going to make in the White House to drive this stock through the roof insider trading.
That's a crime, right? But he can't be prosecuted for crimes because the Supreme Court, which he stacked with three loyalists, said presidents can't be prosecuted for crimes. Now, because of Todd Blanch, Ty Blanche,
Turd Blanche, he never has to pay taxes and cannot be audited. So all of his illegal financial dealings, which is how he's made all of this money as president, can never be investigated, can never be looked into. He set all of that up. Do you see how that's criminal in nature?
Yes, that's criminal. But if what you're saying is true, then why isn't he sitting down every day doing that? I don't He is.
He is. What are you talking about? No, he is not. Mom, what? He has made billions of dollars. He's made more trades. I read this article the other day. He personally has made more stock trades this year than the entirety of Congress put together. H. Wow.
Well, I didn't read that. Are you impersonating me? Well, I didn't read that. We'll just have to Let's not be nice, Miss Haley Colchen. All right,
we'll just have to see. Let's simmer down. I am curious about this question to each of us. Do you think we come back after death? I mean, Haley,
I kind of like don't [ __ ] care right now. I'll be real. I don't care. Sweet. Good talking to you. Mom. Mom. Hello.
Yes. Yes. Are you you with us? You listening? What's going on over there? You're just talking about reincarnation. Yes. Do you believe in reincarnation, Mom?
I believe when you die, your soul leaves your body. I believe your soul goes heaven or hell. Or if you're Catholic, purgatory. Sometimes if you're not quite ready to go to heaven, you have to go to purgatory.
So only Catholics or does everybody? I think Catholics believe that mainly. But then I do like the Buddhist religion where you can come back in the form of another person, another animal. I have to believe it. I want I do believe it because I've had close friends die. Now there are signs. I see signs every day.
What? What are the signs? There was a picture in our house that Jules liked a lot. She would always go over and look at it. And like last week, we hear a crash boom at about 7:30 at night. I couldn't figure out where this sound came from. That whole picture fell down.
That whole picture fell down. Interesting. Then maybe two days after I went and saw her at the grave, I went in the bathroom that morning, turned on the lights. All the lights came on but one and it went on, off, on, off, on, off.
You got SOS? SOS. Interesting. I don't know. I go I eb and flow between woo woo [ __ ] and nothing. So, I don't really know.
All right. I believe we do. I believe there is no death. I believe time doesn't exist and it's all kind of one thing. I think that we are all the same thing.
So where does your soul go? Do you believe you have a soul? Just let this glow. What was that song? My personal belief is that all consciousness exists as kind of the fundamental underpinning of reality. we are a reflection of it to some degree and that the idea of an individual person or animal or or rock even I think all things have consciousness in it and I think whatever this kind of physical space-time reality is is effectively like a simulation or a video game where little bits of consciousness get separated out into what we perceive to be individuals but we're not really separate in any way.
I'm too dumb for that. I don't know. I don't get it. So, do you believe we have a soul that will separate from our body at death?
Soul, whatever you want to call it. Sure. I don't think our identity is like real. I think it's a a temporary thing that we have while we are in this video game.
So, when I die, I'll see you later. You'll see me later. Yeah. I think we all uh by we I mean like the the construct of whatever our identities are return to a kind of if you want to call it heaven or God or whatever. We return to a collective where the information the experiences that we have had playing this video game get absorbed back into the greater hole as do in quotes we
where you're not in pain anymore and you're happy and all your dogs come running to you and all your friends you've ever had. Yeah. All of the data that is collected in each experience that you know we in quotes are experiencing I think is delivered to that hard drive in the sky. And now you can experience it all including stuff that isn't just from this like individual life you're you're leading but from every life that has ever been led.
So you believe in God or a higher higher power. A god implies that there is like a sentient consciousness watching over us all that has created all of this stuff. I don't know if that's exactly accurate, but I do think obviously there is there is something that is holding up reality that we don't understand yet that maybe we get little glimpses of in dreams and stuff like the picture crashing. You know, things are are happening that cannot be measured or quantified by contemporary scientific methods. That is like 100% true and has been happening that way since the dawn of written history. There are all kinds of accounts
of uh not just like people having like past life memories and stuff, but all kinds of woo woo spiritual whatever you want to call it. Um I just think it's stuff that we don't really understand yet that science cannot measure because science can only measure things through the five senses and obviously augmentations of that with certain tools and technologies. There are books and stories where people have died and come and then come back and been able to tell you what happened.
Absolutely. And that makes me think that it probably is real. But time also like coming back implies that time is even real, which I don't think it is. I think it's a little bit of an illusion manufactured for whatever the purpose of this [ __ ] thing is this video game.
I'm going to quiz your dad on that more. He still doesn't remember anything, but I'm going to quiz him more. I'm He's the only person that I know personally who's had an NDE and I would love to talk to him about that. Yeah. I know he claims like, "I DIDN'T SEE [ __ ] [ __ ] IT."
But he said they were hitting him on his head or something. I remember that. Who was the paramedics? They were CPRing him. Not hitting him on his head, but he said somebody was
It was just the video game pushing him back down. Pushing him down. It was God. Stop [ __ ] supporting Trump, you [ __ ] All right, moving on. Our next topic is Republicans support domestic violence. This week, Republican Max Miller refused to drop out of the congressional race for Ohio's 7th district despite accusations from his ex-wife, Emily Moreno, that he attacked her with boiling water and broke their daughter's collarbone. Domestic abuse and violence allegations were also issued by two other women. He previously faced abuse allegations from ex-girlfriend Stephanie Gisham, a former Trump White House press secretary, which fed into a 2023 defamation settlement. Miller denies all
of it. In stark contrast, Graham Platner was the Democratic nominee for US Senate in Maine. He did drop out of the race after he faced several similar allegations of sexual misconduct and finally succumb to pressure from within his party. Mom, do you believe the women who are accusing Max Miller of domestic violence? I don't know the women. It's allegations, right? He hasn't been convicted. Um, but if there's a lot of women coming forward, something isn't right there and the poor child that had the broken collarbone.
But in the middle of divorce and and divorce and all that, people get really mean and ugly and say ugly things. So, I don't know. I don't know his personal life.
Okay. But you just said there's a lot of women coming out, so there's something there, right? Yeah. All right. Well, Trump has almost 30 women
Trump has had almost 30 women come out and say that he sexually assaulted them or committed some kind of sexual I already knew that you were going to throw it that direction. I already knew that.
Great. And so now it's there. We're in that direction. Why do you believe these women who are accusing Max Miller? Or you at least think something's there, but you don't believe the ones accusing Trump. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Got him.
Now, you also said there hasn't been a conviction with Max Miller. There has with Trump. He was convicted of sexually assaulting Eugene Carol
in a civil case. Correct. Civil case. Right. Doesn't matter. You said conviction. Trump is a convicted sexual assaulter. Why does that not matter to you? I guess I don't believe that one. I don't know.
But why? Because you're you're in a cult. No. Whether you're in a cult or not, like I I'm not trying to like hammer you here. I want you to really think about this. You've got
I just think so many people hate him that they make things up. They push it by liberal judges. They They hate him. And they're going to bring anything against him they can. But if I'm correct me if I'm wrong here, the Supreme Court upheld Eugene Carol's case
and said, "No, you have to pay her. You're guilty." Right. His own Supreme Court in a civil case where What does that mean civil case to you? Do you think like OJ he lost a civil case? Do you think that
or it didn't have to be 100% everybody on board with it? That's wrong. It's you still have to have a jury convict you unanimously, which is what happened in Trump's case.
You just don't You don't want to You don't want to believe it. You're correct. I don't want to believe it. You're correct. You don't want to believe that he partakes in insider trading. You don't want to believe like all of these things, but they are a reality. So, it's just you putting your head in the sand. You're not acknowledging the reality is what's going on. You pretend that it doesn't exist.
I don't want to believe it. You're right. But it is true. So that is on you. You are pretending that it doesn't exist and you are looking the other way. But you need to face it head on and [ __ ] acknowledge it. I think you know he's a sack of [ __ ] You just ignore it.
Doing the best I can. You're not ignoring it. What do you mean? Acknowledge what's going on. I am doing the best I can, Haley.
Like when a when someone's ex-wife accuses them of throwing boiling water on them and breaking their child's collarbone, that's pretty [ __ ] serious. You think someone would lie about that [ __ ] to the public?
Again, you don't know those people. I don't know those people. I don't need to know those people. I believe her. Do you know what happens in custo custody battles and divorce battles? People make things up. They try to kill people over it.
But it's not just his his ex-wife. It's he's got an ex-girlfriend in here. There's another woman who is also saying that he was violent um during their relationship. So, it's not just about a custody battle. There are other people making these allegations as well. And isn't there a committee now uh within the government going forward investigating it too,
not just the court that they're going through with the divorce and all that? That I don't know. But that was like my next question in this is um Max Miller's not leaving like he's running. He he passed the deadline by which he would have had to dropped out of the race.
He's like, "Fuck you. I'm running." But then you contrast that with Graham Platner who did drop out of the race and he's a Democrat. So why do you think the Republican party doesn't care about sexual assault and domestic violence in the same way Democrats do?
Well, that was that guy's own personal thing for him to drop out, wasn't it? Who? Uh the Graham guy. No, the He didn't want to. and the Democratic party pushed him out.
Okay, the House Ethics Committee has opened an investigation against Miller. So, okay, there is an investigation. I think this was two days ago. So, they are starting to investig means absolutely nothing. Every investigation means [ __ ] nothing.
Well, they'll get to the truth. No, they won't. It's run by Republicans. No, they won't. They don't want him out because they what they all they care about is having a Republican in that seat, whatever seat it may be, Senate, House, [ __ ] White House, whatever,
who's going to be loyal to Trump. So my question is, it's clear that the Democratic Party pushes people out when these allegations come up. They don't wait for the investigation. They don't wait for anything. If it looks credible, they push them out.
Because they're in the wrong. Yeah, they know. Do you remember when they pushed out um Al Franken because a picture surfaced of him pretending to grab a woman's boobs?
Yeah. Okay. Now, well, that happened. That that happened Jesus. When it even was that? This must have been during Trump's first term, I think. Sometime 19. I gotta Google this now. Um when did Al Frankly,
I don't remember that. Senate 2018, January 2nd, 2018. They Republicans excuse everything. Fraud, sexual abuse. I mean, like half the cabinet has sexually assaulted a woman or multiple women.
Beth, yeah, Republican party is just rife with criminals. [ __ ] Ken Paxton pardoned a known pedophile. just let him out. And up in Minnesota, they let somebody out, too. That governor did that was a bad person. So, I think it goes both ways.
It does not go both ways. That's what I'm trying to get you to see here. And you have to ask yourself the question, why are there so many Republicans who are accused of, convicted of, in Trump's case, sexual assault. And yet, on the Democrat side, when that stuff rears its head, Eric Swallwell, same thing.
They're like, "Fuck you. You're out, dude. He was Eric Swallwell was like on the fast track. He was going to run for [ __ ] president. Bye-bye. They just kick you out because they have a a zero tolerance. I don't think they actually care. Don't get me wrong. I don't think Democrats moralistically give a [ __ ] about any of this, but they understand the optics of it and they're like, "We can't be the party that has sex offenders in our party and supports them." The Republicans, though, do at every turn. Do you remember that guy uh what was his name? Judge Roy Moore
who got in trouble for he was running for some [ __ ] local government wherever he was. Let me see if I can find this guy. Um I remember we talked about it on the show. Roy Moore Senate race allegations. So yes, during the volatile 2017 US Senate special election in Alabama, Republican nominee Roy Moore faced severe allegations of sexual misconduct from multiple women. The accusations first detailed in a report by the Washington Post contributed heavily to his historic defeat by Democrat Doug Jones and it had to do with Lee Corfman said when she was 14, he was 32 years old and took her to his home and touched
her inappropriately. Other accusers uh ranging in ages from 16 to 30s of sexual assault. And that guy still [ __ ] ran. He lost, but he ran. And the Republican party was like, "Yep, go out there. We hope you win. Here's money. And they're doing the same thing for Max Miller. Now, I know you say they're launching an investigation, but he's running for this office and he might [ __ ] win. The reason that this is happening, that this is a plague in the Republican party now, is Donald Trump. He has been convicted of sexual assault, the highest office in American politics, and it trickles down
through his party. So, if he can do it, of course, everybody else can. And he also knows the more people that I surround myself with who are embroiled in sexual assault allegations or convictions or whatever, the better it makes him look because it it lowers his profile as somebody who sexually assaults women. If everybody in around me is doing it, it ain't that bad. Reaction, please.
If any if anybody has a brain, they won't elect him. If they believe that, they're not going to elect him. They elected Donald Trump.
I'm talking about the other guy, right? But I'm trying to get you to see there's no difference. This guy sexually assaulted his wife or assaulted his wife and has been accused of assault from other women. He broke his own daughter's collar bone
in a fit of rage. I know. That's what they said. How is that different than Trump being accused of sexual assault by nearly 30 women being convicted of it in the Eugene Carroll case?
Convicted, I guess, accused and convicted. It's just a dangerous precedent because you have Donald Trump who is the tippy top of our government assaulting women. Now it's rife in the cabinet. What kind of a message does that send to women in general in the United States? Also to the men who abuse women. You can get away with it. It's disgusting. And it's from the top down.
It's disgusting. Men are literally murdering women on a daily basis and now this like allows it. It excuses it. What? all part of this 2025.
You don't know anything about statistics and who actually kills people in the United States. You just blame it on immigrants. No, it's true. You blame it on immigrants. But the reality is
I was asking women what men are killing women right now. Spouses. Domestic violence every day. Yeah. Our government by not allowing us abortions. Like if you want to look at who's actually killing people in the United States, it's our [ __ ] government. And it's men that already are here. American men, killing their wives, killing their girlfriends. There are statistics that you can look up if you care to Google that. But you have a president that sexually assaults women and gets away with it. Probably [ __ ] murdered people. And it's in the Epstein files. But you don't believe it.
You choose to look the other way. I'll tell you who's murdering babies is the state of Massachusetts. And you guys didn't even bring that topic up. I guess we save that for Wednesday.
What? What is it? They're still doing abortions there. And you're pissed about that? It's up to the doctor now. They can go past 30.
No, it's up to the woman, which is what it should be. Up to the doctor's decision. Massachusetts passed a major abortion law change this week. Governor Healey signed H5595 propriet I can't say it making the patients have access care up to and after 24 weeks. It used to be 24 weeks which is 6 months. Now they can go all the way to full term and it's up to a doctor's professional judgment. So, there is no longer a law that has an age cut off for abortions in the state of Massachusetts.
But do you know what that's actually for? Do you know what that's for and why they do that? That would be for someone after 6 months that no longer wants to have the baby.
That's inaccurate. It's not people who don't want the baby. It's babies that will not be viable outside the womb. So, they have a genetic defect. Maybe it's killing the mom. that is in place to protect the life of the mother in order to be able to have an abortion if that baby is not going to survive birth.
I see it's not it's not a [ __ ] mom that doesn't want the baby. Nobody makes it to six months that doesn't want the baby.
I see what you're saying. But then in my brain, I'm saying, "Okay, what if it goes crazy where people are saying, I don't want that baby because it only has one arm. I don't want that baby because it maybe only has one limb. So, I don't want that baby because it's black. I don't want that baby because it's red. Then that doctor is the one that gets to make that decision. Quit laughing, Chad.
That's the truth. You have these weird scenarios in your mind that like don't exist. Okay. All right. There's no longer a law that has an age cut off for abortions in the state of Massachusetts. But you should be happy about this because you're you and dad both are a big proponent of states rights. When abortion was first overturned when and I remember we did that episode. You both were like states rights. States can decide. Now a state has decided and you're saying they shouldn't be able to.
I would never live in the state of Massachusetts if they can have abortions all the way to the end because then your father wouldn't be alive. That is the beauty of states right so you don't have to live there.
Your father's mother was 15. She chose to have him even though she knew she couldn't afford him or keep him as a child
person herself. That wouldn't change if he lived in the current state of Massachusetts. Right. She if she chose to have him, she could do that in any state. There's no state that is making abortion mandatory. No, it but it's making it legal right up to the very end.
Uhhuh. Along with the doctor and the mother. Okay. So, you do believe in choice. Not that choice. I believe in life. Okay. So,
I believe every baby should live. And you're against states rights. I believe every baby should have a chance to live. Are you for or against states rights?
Yes, I am. But then you don't care. No, you either are for or against states rights. If you're for states rights, each state deciding how it will implement certain laws, certain medical decisions, whatever. If you're for
I do believe in states rights, then I would never live in that state. So, this is going to cause people to either flock there
or move either flock there or move from there. Okay, fine then. But I don't understand why you're so bent out of shape about this if it's a states rights issue.
Because a baby is alive and all babies should have the chance to be born. States get to decide though, right? Right. I would not live there.
You don't have to and you don't. Okay. All right. We Let's uh one more topic real quick. Caroline Levit out this week. Serial liar Caroline Levit announced she will be leaving her role as White House press secretary. Trump said it is a mutual amicable decision. He said she's departing so she can spend more time with her beautiful young children and family. And Levit herself pointed to her role as a mother of two as the reason. The departure comes with less than three months until the midterm elections and shortly after she returned from her maternity leave following the birth of her second child. May Trump
said she's not leaving the White House or his team necessarily, saying that she'll become one of my top outside advisors. You're getting really mean with your face. Stop.
And work with the Republican party to win the November midterm of elections. In her own words, "President Trump has asked me to continue serving as a top adviser to him on the outside, and I will always remain a vocal advocate for a back of the Republican party. As of now, it's not clear who Trump will pick to replace her. Her tenure was widely characterized as combative and dishonest at the very least." Mom, did you like Caroline Love it as White House press secretary?
Yes, I did. I thought she did a wonderful job. I really did. And I thought after a while, I've shed baby number two, she might scoot out the door.
Yeah. Just Sarah Huckabe kind of same thing. They're young. When they start having families, they scoot out the door. Yeah. I'm laughing though. What if this happens? I read this. I don't think this will happen, though.
Yeah. Spencer Pratt. Jesus. Please let that happen. What a [ __ ] show that'll [ __ ] be. Spencer Pratt. I like Terry Lake.
It'll be another woman. Your dad likes Scott uh Jennings from CNN. His name's He's in the top lead. And then his old attorney, um, what was her name? Real pretty lady. Haba. Haba.
Alina. Yeah, she's also in the top. Do you think Caroline Love it will appear on Dancing with the Stars? No. Haley, what do you No.
She's going to write a book. She's going to be on TV. She's going to do all the [ __ ] All I think she'll do Dancing with the Stars.
No, I hate Caroline. Love it. Um, she will continue to be a part of his advice. Yeah, I hate her. I do not like her at all. I hope she routs in hell.
Same. Oh, that's not very nice. She's not very nice. Okay. She will continue to be with her babies, her husband, and an adviser.
She lied for Donald Trump on a daily basis, covered up all of his [ __ ] uh crimes, and I think that she should go to jail with the rest of them.
I agree. Um, let me do one more, one more quick one. Democratic socialists are winning all these primaries. This week, Democratic primary turnout voters showed up in numbers not seen in decades. In Wisconsin's primary, Democrats cast nearly 800,000 ballots, their highest midterm total in more than 20 years. That followed 1.5 million Democratic voters in Michigan the week before, a midterm record for the state. Democratic turnout also surged early this year in Texas and Georgia. And Democratic socialists have won a bunch of these elections. We got Mumani obviously winning New York mayoral race.
Malot Kiraos, a 29-year-old Democratic socialist toppled Rep. Diana Deette in Denver, an incumbent who had held Colorado's first district since 1997. Obviously, we talked about last week Abdul Elsed uh in Michigan. We've got Donovan McKini, houseed an incumbent in Michigan House. And in New York, we've got wins by uh Aila Shioalier and Claire Valdez. These candidates campaigned on health care for all, more affordable housing, higher taxes on wealthy Americans, and a pro Palestinian foreign policy. Overall, Democratic Socialist back candidates won nearly half their races in this cycle with more than 30 primary wins reported and down ballot success across many states. Mom, are you a Democratic
socialist? No. You want healthcare for all? Yes. Do you want more affordable housing for people? Yes. Do you think we should Do you think people who are billionaires should pay more taxes than people who are not?
No. Okay. Interesting. And I know that you're not pro Palestinian. So you are you're 50% of the way there. There are four big kind of like issues. You agree with two of them. How do you know she's not Maybe don't phrase it that way, but like you admitted that the genocide in Gaza is happening and it's atrocious.
Yes. Yeah. So, not you can't phrase it as pro Palestinian, but you can certainly say that Israel dropping bombs on Gaza is like unjust.
No war is just. Okay. So, three out of four then the only one that you disagree with Democratic socialists on is taxing billionaires. Do you think they should pay no tax or something? I don't I don't really understand that. But
I don't think they should be like quadruple tax just because just because they're hard workers and earned all the money. They're not hard workers. Stop saying that.
Yes, they are. But okay, the all these primary turnouts, yeah, are leaning that one way, but that does not um automatically turn that into all wins in November.
I agree with you. That was going to be my next question. What it indicates right now is the electorate of the Democratic party is leaning very heavy in that direction, right? That the standard status quo Chuck Schumer type [ __ ] Democrat ain't cutting it anymore. And the people who are voting Democrat are moving way left now. That is what this indicates
because of the economy, because of immigration, because of all that. But it doesn't mean that um come November this is the way it's going to go. November even more people will will vote. So we'll see.
Yeah. Now there was another one of Francia or something Hong a Democrat socialist. She lost in Wisconsin her primary to a moderate. So there's a few mixed in between that won that didn't win. Of course, I I would argue that this is kind of like when the Tea Party started to rise through the Republican party. This is almost like the left's version of it, if you will,
of starting maybe. Yeah. Well, I think it's encouraging. I find it encouraging because I'm tired of [ __ ] Dems as well. And so, I need something other and I feel like this is the shift. And I feel like it makes way for Yeah. AOC.
No way. AOC. I agree. Okay. Get those eggs froze then. And I guess you better freeze some eggs. Well, you got problems with that.
Yeah, you missed on Wednesday to do it on live TV and to show everybody live TV. So great. Wait, what was the live TV she was on doing it?
She was behind um it was NBC or ABC somewhere on a showing what she was doing. She did it on Instagram. And you don't think so too.
You don't think it's an important matter that should be addressed? I think it's a very private matter and she's doing it just for publicity right now to say, "Hey women, I need all these women voters. So look at me. I'm freezing my eggs."
What? What? How does that equate with, "Hey women, watch me freeze my eggs. I need your votes." Explain. That's what she's doing. She's trying to get women voters to say, "Look what I'm doing with my body. How does that acrue women votes?
She's trying to get the women to vote for her. Next, she's gonna have Never mind. Next, she's going to have what? Nothing. We'll talk about that later. I'm not I'm done.
What? I have anxiety. Okay. Well, I guess that wraps up the show. Thank you for joining us. I will be back tonight at 6 PM PDT. I'm sure neither of you will join me. So, it will probably be just me solo holding it down answering all the questions. If you have any, join me for that. I'll put up a link on our Instagram maybe like an hour or so before it. There will also be a post in our YouTube channel about it. So, join me for that. I will answer all questions about today's show or any other questions you may have. You want to talk
about reincarnation. I'm down. Also, Haley um is gonna do a skin thing one day and me. We're gonna do our skin regimen because someone accused me of Botox. It really makes me mad.
I don't do Have you used Botox? Never. Really? I use I use castor oil. A different Why did you say really? Like doesn't Botox literally eliminate all movement like in your face? I don't.
Oh, so you're saying you got movement in my face? I No, I'm saying really because it's just like everybody does it. I find it surprising. Have you done it?
You someone Yeah, I've never done it. No, me either. Someone DM'd me and said they don't they'll never listen to me again because I Botox my face or something.
I actually have like a phobia of that. Like the injectables and the Botox. Absolutely [ __ ] not. One of the worst experiences of my life came from needles in the face. It was when they were sawing off a [ __ ] chunk of my face awake for all of it. They were just shooting my face with, you know, whatever [ __ ] numbing agent
and it was it was so full of it that it was like giant and puffy and then they just [ __ ] get out the knives. Just [ __ ] chop this chunk of face off. Blood [ __ ] fountaining. I'm laying down. Blood just running out of my mouth. No,
I very much like I like that was the last needle in my face. I feel like in today's world I may be in the minority, but I love that I'm 45. I like that I have fine wrinkles and lines on my face. I don't give a [ __ ] about all of that.
Um I actually have a I have a phobia of all that [ __ ] and I don't I don't like it. I don't like that whole part of the industry of the beauty industry. I don't like it. I think it's damaging.
We can do Chad's journey. Maybe we can do our face journeys. Your journey to dream. Yes, it is. And I use castor oil.
All right. Thanks for joining us. Before we go, as always, we get heated. I know we have some disagreements, but Mom, I love you. Haley, I love you as well. I know you're going through a lot with your um diamond shoes being as tight as they are and all those concerts you have to go to. I know it's
so condescending. Yeah, that's right. You're getting it. You guys, you literally never give me credit for like No, of course I do. The life that I live, how busy I am, you always make money for it.
That is not true. Ridiculous. I'm constantly reposting live bakery stuff on necessary conversation. I am incredibly proud of everything you have done. I I find it astounding the level of success you've achieved in your artistic endeavors.
I just give you try to compete with how much [ __ ] you pack in your in your bag. No, I'm just saying we're all busy. We all got our [ __ ] You're the only one who shows up like I'm just so tired and so busy.
I just STARTED IT. I JUST SAT HERE AND you're like, "Okay, uh why not the where's the energy? I I didn't do anything.
Exactly. I love you, Dad. Haley. Haley, I love you. How was butter? Butter. How was it? Good. I've been a BTS went to Butter.
I've been a BTS fan. They're called Army for I don't know, five, six years, I guess, at this point. And I finally got to go see them live in concert and it was incredible. They are incredible performers. Music was awesome. Um, it was great. I don't know. I love BTS.
Okay, there you go. All right. Uh, I'll see some of you tonight at 6 PM PDT. I might be able to. We'll see. We'll see how your father's doing. He's ready to come back on. He can do probably one topic. He's ready.
Is he like coherent? His brain is sharp as attack. It's the body that we're rebuilding. We are rebuilding the body. Yeah. Like I called the other day to discuss something and I could hear him yelling in the background. So I feel like yelling back.
He's Yeah. All right. Well, maybe next Sunday we'll we'll have him come on. Maybe a topic. Yeah. Yeah. This is like our our own family version of Mitch McConnell.
Oh, that's where's that [ __ ] guy? That's not nice. Where is that [ __ ] guy? I don't know. Okay, I got to go. Got to run. I've got things I have to do.
Me, too. Bye. Bye.