Is Trump turning the Whitehouse into Maga-Lago?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. >> Are we recording? >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Coulter. With me today is my sister. She was gone last week. We're going to find out where she went. She is a fellow lefty like myself. And my mom, who is obviously not, as you can tell by her Trump hat. My dad is still down and out recovering from his hip surgery. He is alive, we assure you. But he's not going to be here today. So, it's just us three. Mom, maybe we can use this opportunity to pull you a little closer to the truth. >> Not. Okay. Am I doing my diddies quick? >> Do your diddies quick. >> My diddies are a little different today, but that's okay. I want to start with me. I did something really good. I feel good about this. >> Great. >> Sometimes on Facebook, I look at this little thing marketplace. You know, it's where people buy and sell things. It's the little So, I clicked on that >> and I always look for horse things. You know, I love horses. There was this horse oil painting. I go, "Man, that is cool." Clicked on it. The lady was asking $10. I thought, "That's really cool. I want that. So, I messaged her, uh, would you ship that? Blah, blah, blah. Then I looked at the second picture, which I should have started by doing that, and it had the artist's name. So, she never the lady selling it didn't respond back yet. But then I looked up the artist. I go, "Holy bananas." That lady is still an artist in Oklahoma, and some of her oil paintings go for $4,000. >> Oh, wow. And that lady only had it listed for 10. So, you know what I did? I did something good. I private messaged her. I said, "I know you haven't responded back whether I can buy that or not, but I think you need to look at this. I'm going to send you the web page of that artist who is still alive. Some of her paintings go for up to 4,000." I said, "I think you need to relist that with a better price. Even though I'd love to buy it, I can't buy it if you're going to relist it for the correct price." She thanked me. She said, "Oh my god." She said, "Our family needs money. You don't understand." I said, "Yeah, I do." I said, "Reist it and good luck and I hope you get a lot of money." >> Nice. >> That's Did you buy it at with the relisting? >> No. What she did real quick, she put sold on it and I haven't seen her relist it for the price yet. You know, the higher price. I'll look again today. >> I could go into the hundreds for it, but I probably wouldn't go into the thousands for it. But it was a cool little picture. Nice. >> So, I did something good. >> You're the patriot of the week. >> I was gonna say I'm the patriot of the week. >> Okay. >> Wait, I got I got a quick little thing, too. I got You know, I get death threats all the time. But all of a sudden on Instagram, I got a nice one. Not a nice death threat. Not a nice death threat, but a nice message. And uh we chatted a bit. It's weird. I kind of know who to talk to and I kind of know who to not. Mhm. >> This person ended up being a Democrat from California. And he said, "I think what your family is doing is terrific. We live in a country where we can see both sides and talk both sides. I think you're helping a lot of people." He said Bob reminded him of his grandpa >> who came across as bitter, old, you know, wanted everybody dead and all that, but he would give people the shirt off his back. So, kind words, not death threats. I like that. >> All right. Well, speaking of kind words, not death threats, we are going to begin today's program with a question from a listener. As we do every week, if you want to submit a question to this very show, all you got to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format and email it to the necessary conversationpodgmail.com. Uh, today's not a video, it's an audio. I wish it was video. Are you ready? >> Oh, boy. >> Yes. Hello from Texas. Um, this message is largely for Chad and Haley, although I'm sure your dad will have some thoughts and feelings about it. Um, Chad and Haley, do you ever experience any sort of uh internal conflict regarding platforming, your father's um outright racist and white supremacist talking points, as well as his statements of intents of violence toward Democrats or people who are a different color than him, anyone who he views as less than uh him. I ask because we know that the algorithm will inevitably find individuals who share these antisocial, and I do mean clinically antisocial traits that your father has. Um, and if so, how would you approach it? Um, would you say something like, "Hey, could you not say things that could have us deplatformed or result in someone actually dying?" Thanks. Cool. All right, there you have it. Um, Haley, do you want to address this or do you want me to go first? >> Um, I mean, I get this I actually get this question in my DMs quite a bit. Uh, >> I don't see it as as platforming our parents, I guess I should say, my dad's hatred. Um, this podcast was introduced as a means to talk to our parents about politics. Um, conversely, I have had people tell me that this show helps them. >> So, I do not perceive this as giving my dad a platform to spew hatred. We are simply different sides of politics trying to sort through [ __ ] Um, my parents are more important to me than any political agenda that exists in the world. Uh, I I just don't see it that way. I get this a lot. Also, like your dad's a Nazi, you're platforming Nazi. >> Yes, you're part of the problem. I literally get something that phrase, you're the problem or part of the problem, >> and it's like I'm on your side. Why are you sending me this? Um, sorry. Didn't mean to cut you off. >> No, I mean it's it's you can be extreme on either side, you know, like mom has received death threats from the far left. I have received death threats from the far right. Like this push and pull this left and right. Like it's got to be adversarial is the [ __ ] I think that we're trying to cut through in doing this show. My mom and dad mean more than that to me. So you can perceive it however you like. Um, we simply do this show to keep in contact with our mom and dad, to maintain our [ __ ] family dynamic. Um, so you can perceive it however you want, but it's simply not a [ __ ] platform for anything other than us trying to like reconcile our family. >> Yeah, I agree with that. And I would also say like just on a fundamental level, ideologically, I guess I disagree with the idea that there are certain types of ideas that should never be spoken. and the idea that like you're platforming this heinous ideology, we're also platforming our own views. So, it's not like Fox News or Newsmax where it's just like one-sided listen to these crazy racist rantings. We are offering our own opinions in the context of that conversation. But even just the idea of like you should never platform this or that, I firmly disagree with at a base level. I think all ideas should be able to be expressed for whatever you want to talk about because once you get into that trap of like this is valid to talk about this is not you're now censoring everything and like to me that's just as bad as uh you know the right wanting to take books out of schools and stuff. It's I just don't I don't agree with the notion of platforming that there is inherently something bad about allowing someone to express an opinion. If you don't agree with the opinion and this show, I get it. It's divisive. We say a lot of crazy [ __ ] on the show. >> If it's not for you, it's not for you. And that can be fine. You don't have to watch it. You don't have to listen to it. But some people do get a lot of stuff out of this. I mean, for every message I get that's like your platform and you should burn in hell, too. I get at least that many saying, "Thank you." Thank you so much for doing this podcast. It's changed the way >> I uh, you know, engage my parents or whatever relationships people may have in their lives that are similar to this. So, >> I hope that's answer the question. Mom, do you have a take on this? >> I've been quiet. Um, I got one DM that said, I know you guys are not for real. This is scripted and you're doing it for the money. You're doing it for the money. Well, I can honestly say at this point in time right now, yeah, >> we've received nothing. no money for this podcast. We've got no money for this. What the hell? >> I'm working on that. >> Yeah. >> What the hell? Um I I I also I also want to say >> Yeah. >> A lot of these these messages that I receive are based solely on a Tik Tok clip. >> Yes. Um, so what you're not seeing is Chad begging my dad to not say, you know, n-word, rler. Like, we definitely [ __ ] interject when there are things said where it's like, holy [ __ ] Uh, you're not watching the whole show. You're watching a [ __ ] Tik Tok. >> Yes, I get that so much. That's like, tell your parents about this. Push back on this. Say this. And I have to be like, we did that. Watch the episode. >> Watch the [ __ ] episode. I do I do think we're getting under some people's skins and stuff too though because sometimes late at night I like Tik Tok. So I'll click the necessary conversation and there's people that repost stuff that we say that we do and that's where I saw that one that said this has to be scripted and you guys are doing it just for the money. Oh my lord. Yeah, we haven't received any money. So there you go. >> Yeah. I I also think that's a big misconception. People see that you get like a couple million views on a Tik Tok and they're like, "Oh my god, they're making millions of dollars." That ain't how it works, ladies and gentlemen. Do a little research into that. I do some other podcasts, uh, all of which I have monetized in one way or another, and it's like, you can make a living at it, but unless you're like, uh, Taylor Swift or something, unless you're, you know, Charlie De'milio, you're not you're not making a lot of money at this. You're making some money. And then you know at at a certain point if we start do getting some checks coming in it's split between all of us. There are costs associated with doing this etc etc. So it's not this is not a money-making endeavor even if we do wind up making a little bit at it you know. >> Should Haley talk about her gift now? >> Sure if you want to. >> Yeah. Talk about your gift. You might have to take more topics out. a listener uh sent me like some handmade gifts. I guess I'll start with this. It's a comic um with our entire family and our personalities like kind of down to a tea. I mean, it's like it's like it's multiple pages. It would take me a minute to read all of it, but like she really kind of nailed who we are and it's really funny. Um so, I appreciate that. I don't want to say her name or her business or anything, but um >> nice. >> The gifts were quite thoughtful. So, this is like I mean that was a pretty good pretty good. So, then she also sent this uh >> banana banana and medication bag for you and dad. Um >> I like that. I want that. >> It has dogs on the inside. >> Oh, that's cool. >> Very patriotic. So, she sewed that for you guys. And then let me I had to stand up for this. I like that. >> This is kind of like the grand toad. I have to take my headphones off real quick. >> What is that? >> This is actually like a really nice uh quality quilt. But anyway, >> oh my gosh, >> it's >> Wow, that's >> I don't know if you can see it, but um >> Yeah, >> that's a lot of work. Yeah, it's like a uh I think it's a fullsized quilt of the OG like pride flag. >> Now, who who gets that? You or Chad? Since I get the baggie thing, the bag. >> It's mine. I'm keeping it. >> Oh, of course. >> All right. So, yeah. >> So, I hope that that has answered the question of platforming. Now, let's uh let's move on. >> I want that. Okay. >> Before we start uh in with our topics, I want to play one video. This week, CNN did an interview with a bunch of people, including the pastor of this place called Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho. Did you see this, Mom? >> Mm-m. >> And Pete Hegsth, you know who he is? >> Yes. >> He retweeted pieces of this interview. I'm going to Okay. And I'm going to show you his tweet now. This is Pete Hegsth. You ready? >> I'm ready. >> Says in his vision of a Christian society, women as individuals shouldn't be able to vote. his fellow pastors Jared Longshore and Toby Sumpter agree. >> In my ideal society, we would vote as households. Um, and I would ordinarily be the one that would cast the vote, but I would cast the vote having discussed it with my household. >> But what if there's a your wife doesn't want to vote for the same right >> person as you, >> right? Well, then that's a great opportunity for a good discussion. >> There are some who have gone so far as to say that they want the 19th amendment repealed. >> I would support that. Um, and I'd support it on the basis that the the atomization that comes with our current system is not good for humans. >> He is the head and I of our household. >> Yes. And I do submit to him. >> So like moving here ultimately your decision. >> Yes. >> That's a great example. >> That's a great example. >> And Wilson, a veteran himself, is unapologetic about his view that women shouldn't be in certain leadership or combat roles. Looking at the leadership page for Christ Church, it's all men. Do you accept women in leadership roles in the church and and government? >> In the church, no. Because the Bible says not to. >> What he also wants gone same-sex marriage because he thinks homosexuality is a crime. >> In the late 70s and early 80s, sodomy was a felony in all 50 states. That America of that day was not a totalitarian hell hole. >> So you would like America to go back to that? >> Yep. Okay, so that's Pete Hegsth retweeting that he doesn't want women to vote and being gay, not even gay marriage, just being gay should be illegal. Do you agree with that, Mom? >> No. Women should be able to vote. They should not bow down to their husband in the household. That's ridiculous. They should be able to hold any kind of um what did they say? They couldn't hold anything in the church. What were they >> positions of leadership? >> Right. But I have stated in regards to the military, I don't believe women are as strong as men. So that does scare me. >> If you're out there fighting, I want the strongest guy fighting. >> That's not true. You You act like everyone every first of all, you act like everyone is on the front lines in a hole. I don't understand where you get that. Second of all, there are women who are stronger than some men. >> Wow. >> Some women are stronger than some men. >> So, what in the logic? Not every man that joins the military is like 6'2 and and 200 lb of muscle. >> You do have >> They are not pro aletes. They are not I mean, that's just not true. >> You do have to pass. >> Dad was in the military, for instance. >> Yes. that. Oh, that's not very nice. Haley, your father passed basic training like with high honors. He was in the rifle guard. And >> how do you describe that? Is he super [ __ ] muscular and fit? And was he back then? What do he weigh like a buck 35? >> Maybe soaking wet. Yeah, >> he was in shape. >> He was in shape. >> There are women There are women today that are in better shape than that. Well, in combat, I think I would want a guy out there to knock down whoever's coming after. >> I'm not I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about Pete Hegsth. >> He holds one of the most important roles in the cabinet. >> Yes. >> Has retweeted this thing and and he wrote on top of that tweet, "All of Christ for all of life, >> which basically means accept all Christian doctrine." Which in his mind is in line with what this pastor is saying. Women should not be able to vote. >> They said they wanted to repeal the amendment that allows that. >> Well, that's not right. We all know that's not right. >> Should be a crime. Okay. So, >> that's not right. >> Is it starting to seep in that these people Donald Trump has selected for these roles are not good people. >> Not everyone. But what he what that was was not right. >> Okay. But you guys, you and dad both sat here when he when Heg Seth was up for confirmation and said you love him. You love everything about him. You love that he gets drunk at work. You love that he had a sexual assault yesterday. I loved all of that about him. And I didn't I didn't like that clip you played either. That was not right. >> Okay. I'm just I'm playing these little things as pieces of evidence for you that the party you're aligned with >> is maybe actually not what you believe in. >> We'll see as time goes on. that that was not right. >> You keep saying time will tell. It's I'm putting it right in your face right now. Time is ticking. >> Pete Hagsath wants to repeal women's right to vote and he wants to make being gay illegal. >> Has he stood up before us and said that? No, he just retweeted. >> I just showed you the tweet. >> Did he say that? >> Not only retweeted it, put all of Christ for all of life. If you retweet something and you put some kind of positive statement along with that retweet, you're you're co-signing everything that's in it. >> I would need him in front of us to say that, I think. >> Okay. So, that's how you're flipping around on this one. This tweet is meaningless. We have to have him. >> It's not right. I said it's not right. I don't like it. >> All right. Just leave it in your brain. Let it tumble around in there. Let's move on to our first topic. Trump and Putin. Trump is set to meet with fellow authoritarian leader Vladimir Putin on August 15th in Alaska to discuss a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. Trump did not invite Ukraine's President Zalinsky to the meeting. Reports suggest that the deal Trump plans to offer will ease US sanctions against Russia, unlock frozen Russian assets totaling approximately $300 billion, give Russia parts of Ukraine, and exclude Ukraine from NATO membership. President Zalinsky has strongly rejected any territorial concessions and declared that the decisions made while excluding Ukraine are inherently invalid. Mom, do you think Zalinsky should be at this meeting? >> Of course he should be there. My god, it's his country in Russia. And I think the only way this is going to happen is if he does give some land to Putin. If not, it's not going to happen. >> It's not give. >> He has to give up some of that border, a little bit of that border to Putin or this is not going to happen again. >> Why do you want that to be the case? just so that there is peace in the middle that that a little bit has been given. I've taken some I'm going to let the rest go and the war will be over >> though. Okay, so let's say that that happens. Let's say that happens. Let's say Zillinsky conceds some amount of Ukraine. >> Uhhuh. >> Um what do you think happens to the people who live in that part? >> They will have to pick a side where they want to live and where they want to go. >> Right. And >> do you think that'll be a peaceful decision, a peaceful time for them? >> No. >> If if the leaders have decided that's the way they're going to divide the land and go and the war has been done, no more fighting, then those people who were ever in that region decide to go one way or another. >> But that requires Zalinski to say yes. And he's already said that's not [ __ ] happening. >> I know. And it also Putin has to say yes to it. And I think there needs to be restrictions on both of them that once this is agreed upon, this is it guys. You can't keep bombing. You can't >> Russia is trying to take [ __ ] land from someone else. >> Yeah, I know. >> Ukraine isn't they're defending their [ __ ] country. >> Yeah. So something's got to give. It has to. >> Russia needs to give. Trump. Trump says it's close. >> It's not. Trump is a [ __ ] liar. He's going to take [ __ ] that's not his. >> I believe Trump I believe that some of this land's going to be given up. He's going to tell you, you got to do it. This will be the end of the war and it has to be this way. >> And but Zalinsky has already said he will not agree to this. He's not even there. Trump and Putin are getting together and Trump is saying, "We're going to give you back all the sanctions. We'll take them all off. We're going to give you $300 billion in assets that we have frozen Russian assets. We're going to give them all to you and we'll give you a part of Ukraine." And Putin's going to be like, "Okay, sounds good." Then they're going to leave that meeting. Trump's going to have a big press conference where he's like, "We did it. We broken a peace deal." Zalinsky will not even know about it. And he's going to be like, "No, no [ __ ] deal." >> He'll be there. I think he will be there in the end. >> What? >> I think he will be there in the meeting, too. I think he's gonna be invited. He will be there. >> The White House has already said they're not inviting him. >> Okay, we'll see. We will see. >> Okay, moving on. Texas congressional Democrats. This week, a large group of Texas House Democrats left the state, traveling to states like Illinois, New York, and California to deny legis the legislative body a quorum required for passing a rare mid-de congressional redistricting plan. The maneuver halts the Texas Republicans plans to redraw district boundaries that would likely give them up to five additional US House seats and effectively silence the will of the voters. Texas Governor Greg Abbott is supporting legal action against the Democrats who left, including efforts to vacate the seats of absent Democrats and even file arrest warrants and a $500 daily fine for their absence. Blue state governors of California, New York, and Illinois have offered refuge and expressed solidarity solidarity with the Texas Democrats, and they are also considering counter redistricting in their own states. Mom, do you think redrawing voting districts is a good idea? >> It has been done in other states for other things. It's been done in Illinois before for different districts for voting. >> Yeah. Um, Trump has won the state of Texas. He won the state of Texas. So, when they redistrict and we get the five more, who cares? It's It's okay. Here's the part I don't like. The Democrats have pleaded because they don't want any part of it and they're not going to vote. This was not the only thing on that agenda to vote on. >> There was also the flooding in Texas to give money to them, I heard. I I didn't have enough time to research it. But so those people are being compromised because Democrats wanted to get out of there and left. >> No, you could look at it this way. Those people are being compromised because Republicans want to do a redistricting that doesn't usually happen except for every 10 years. They're doing an early one specifically and only to cheat the system. I see it the other way that other people are being um in trouble because of this because Democrans. >> Well, if there are, how did they lose that state to Trump? >> Voter suppression and this exact thing, gerrymandering >> that like you you do accept or maybe you don't. I guess you think the 2020 election was stolen. Republicans have not won an election, a general election in 15 years or something. They lose every time in the general electorate, but they win because of gerrymandering and this district and that district and the uh electoral >> winning all the swing states. Yeah, that's why they win. that there's a court going through New York or a case going through New York court right now in Rockland County that may expose the fact which I am now starting to believe as more evidence is coming out that Elon Musk hacked all those voting machines basically. >> I do not believe that in any way, shape or form. >> I mean, why why wouldn't you question it? Because think about this. In those states, like when they had state elections, they were voting for things like, "We want to keep abortion on the docket. We want pro-choice." They were voting for very liberal things in their state. So, why the [ __ ] would they vote for Donald Trump? Does that add up to you? >> Let me just I I can give you some facts from an article that I read recently about this this case. So essentially these every once in a while in presidential elections you will have somebody turn in a ballot that has all the down ballot votes cast and no presidential ballot. There's a certain percentage that that happens basically every year and it's low where that kind of vote happens in each of these swing state counties. That percentage was basically 10xed what it normally should be of these ballots that came in where all down ballot was Democratic and presidential vote was just left blank. And they all came in under like one or half a percent under the number that would trigger an automatic hand recount. They all came in mathematically just under that number. You also have Donald Trump saying, "We don't need your votes." Elon Musk knows those voting machines better than anybody. You also have Peter Teal's company who owns Palunteer and obviously co-founded PayPal with Elon Musk and he's plugged into this whole thing where they want to make a database and control everybody blah blah blah. His company bought the company that owns those voting machines. Uh this is like 6 months before the election, 4 days before the election, new software was uploaded into those voting machines by that company that nobody knows what that software did. They alerted no one to that. Starlink, Elon Musk's company, his satellite company, got the bid to control the data from those voting machines. So, who the [ __ ] knows what they did, but more evidence is coming out and it's looking very likely to me now that it was um they fixed it. Now, you're saying you don't believe that, but you do think in 2020 the Democrats fixed it. >> I think our whole voting system has got to change and be better. >> Agreed. Agreed. And we all need IDs. You need an ID to vote. You need a signature to vote. Those two things we need. We don't even have that. So, how you know? >> I I think it should go the other way. I I disagree with you. I think everybody should be able to vote on their phone. >> Yes. Okay. Just grab anybody's phone and vote. Yeah. No. No. >> Why not? It's how we pay all of our bills. >> Not we. You. >> No. Right. Sorry. most of the world. All right, Mom. Will will you be okay with the blue states redistricting just like Texas is trying to do? >> Might as well. That's what everybody's doing. >> Okay. And I want to ask you one more question. Do you think these Democrats should be arrested? >> I think they should be brought back because I said >> it's not just the redistricting that they are failing to vote on. It's other people's lives. Um other things important is more important, I think. >> Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of other people's lives, let's move on to our third topic, Trump burgers. This week, a story broke about Roland Mez Bani, a 28-year-old Lebanese national. I'm I'm sorry if I'm butchering his name there. 28-year-old Lebanese national and co-owner of the proTrump themed restaurant chain Trump Burger, founded in 2020 in Belleville, Texas, and since expanded to several locations around Houston. Beni entered the US in 2019 on a non-immigrant visitor visa that required him to depart by February 12th, 2024, but he remained. He was arrested by ICE in May of this year for overstaying his visa. US authorities allege that he attempted to secure legal residency via a sham marriage, a petition later revoked by USCIS due to insufficient evidence such as lack of cohabitation and familial admissions about the arrangement being fraudulent. Biani is awaiting a deport deportation proceeding with his next immigration hearing scheduled for november 18th of this year. Now, Mom, you gave patriot of the week to little Mike who has a Trump hamburger stand there in Oklahoma just like this guy has. Are you okay with the owner of Trumpburger getting arrested by ICE and possibly deported? >> He is not. If he is not legal, he needs to be deported. I don't care what he's selling, whether it's Trump, Vance, whatever. If he is not legal, he should not be here. >> Okay. >> Uh little Mike legal. He stays. >> He's a good Trump hamburger guy. This is a bad Trump hamburger guy. >> That's >> This guy has no criminal record, right? >> No. >> No. The criminal record is he came into the United States illegal. >> No, he didn't. He came into the United States legally and overstayed his visa. >> Yeah. So that he has That's not right. You can't overstay your visa. >> Okay. And so then all the people who work at his Trump burger places, this is going to affect them. That whole chain could collapse. This isn't just about him. Obviously, >> if they're legal or illegal, who knows? Okay. >> If they're legal, they go get another job. It doesn't matter what you're selling. It doesn't matter. Doesn't >> He's like stimulating the economy. >> And he's he's promoting Donald Trump. Haley, let me ask you this. >> Did you think or do you do you think this is a case of like getting what you voted for? >> He didn't vote obviously because he's not a US citizen, but he's supporting Trump. I I'm always conflicted, you know, because you see these [ __ ] out here. They have no idea what they've done. Um, so it's hard for me to to wish like ill will on someone who I truly believe got grifted or is just uneducated and really did not understand what they were voting for because I do believe that exists. >> Absolutely. >> So, so I don't like >> [ __ ] What are you talking about [ __ ] that like you you literally just didn't [ __ ] understand what you were voting for. I mean, I know lots of maybe not lots, but a handful of acquaintances, I guess, uh where all of all of everyone who voted for this piece of [ __ ] like they're now coming to realize like, "Oh, maybe I shouldn't have done that because my wife might die from her miscarriage or my daughter might not be able to vote." You know, >> I don't wish ill will on those people. Now the the people the people that knowingly entered into this wanting like project 2025, [ __ ] all of you. >> [ __ ] every one of you. You deserve everything that's coming. Um but there is a very large sect of people I think that >> again were just grifted. Like they just did not quite understand what the [ __ ] they were getting into with this [ __ ] Yeah, I think there were a lot of people voting for him because they wanted to own the libs and now they're getting owned by the person they voted for. There was a video that came out this week of this couple. I want to say it was in Texas, but I can't be sure. They were just like they're US citizens, Latino, driving around, going to a campsite. They get pulled over, detained by ICE, and there's a big video of them saying basically like, "We voted for Trump." And I feel embarrassed and stupid and I didn't understand it was going to be like this. And I could if I could take it back I would basically and I think that sentiment is growing but also I don't think it matters because I I am again I'm like 80% to being like they hacked the election and I don't think our current government I mean half the government is down with it. The other half I think is too stupid to understand exactly how they did it or bring any charges or anything like that. I think they now own every election and that company Palunteer, the United States is like small potatoes. They want the world. They are now going to do the any country that has a deal with Starlink, this is going to happen in. So I would expect to see authoritarian leaders in every country in the world within 10 years. I I think they've won the game. I don't know that there's anything we can do against it because our government specifically is too inept to stop it. H interesting. >> Yeah. >> So, where can we move then? Where can we move? >> There ain't going to be a place. >> I like Donald Trump. I like our country. And I don't appreciate you calling him a piece of [ __ ] At first when you said piece of [ __ ] >> He is a piece of [ __ ] >> No, he's not. Well, that piece of shit's gonna give us all $600 rebate check. So, when you get that piece of [ __ ] 600 rebate check, I'll take it. Okay. Send it my way. >> Okay. >> Okay. Oh, did you say yes? Did you say yes, Chad? >> Sure. >> Okay, so I get >> I didn't say anything. I was stunned into Catatonia. Um, >> oh my lord. >> Speaking of Catatonia, our simmer down this week involves dead pets. What is a dead pet that you if you could bring back one in your life, who would it be? Mom. >> Well, let's just Oh gosh. Right now I'm on hospice watch with Kitty. So she's halfway there. It would be Max. >> Yeah. >> Not Rudy. >> Rudy was angry. >> In the end, Rudy got a little bit angry and bit me a bunch. But he didn't mean to do it. His body was hurting and I should have let him go to heaven sooner than I did. >> Rudy was a Chihuahua for those who want to know. >> When you two When you two went to college, he was my son. So he was my second son, my third child. >> I treated him like that. And because of that, he bit me in the inch. >> Max would never do that. Max was my dog. I didn't have to say words to him. All I had to do is eyes, different hand gestures. He would have walked through fire for me. He saved Kitty's life once. >> He um he was my heart dog. It would have been Max. Yeah. Tell us that story about him saving Kitty's life. >> There was a chicken hawk. We were in the backyard. Uh Kitty was probably 5 feet from me and Max was maybe three and the chicken hawk swooped down to get her and I couldn't get to her fast enough and Max jumped up out of the air and bit. He didn't bite bite, but he went to bite those the claws on that chicken hawk and it took up it went up in the sky and didn't get her. He saved her life. >> Wow. >> Yeah, he was a good boy. I miss him. Three years he's been gone. >> Uh, well, for what it's worth, I think um, death is an illusion. >> I know. I know what you're going to say. >> You may or may not. Haley, what is yours? >> Okay, moving right along. We'll come back to that. >> Uh, >> I know. I know Haley's. >> Well, I I don't know. There's probably two. Uh, >> Duff Duff. >> Yeah. So, the very first pet that I ever acquired was Stinky. Um, he was this baby kitten. >> We went back to Conrad's parents house for a funeral and his aunt lived on a farm and said the mom cat like kicked this runt out of the litter and they were just going to let it die. And I was like, the [ __ ] you are? So, I mean, he was no bigger than I mean, he was like this big. >> Like, you could still see umbilical cord [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Yeah. >> So, I was in college. I had to wrap this [ __ ] up like a little baby, stimulate his bowels, feed him with a syringe. Like, it was a whole ass child. And I was in college. I wasn't supposed to have pets. Uh, so I brought him back with me, graduated, took him to go live with me and Conrad. Uh, so he was our very first pet and he lived to be 21. >> Wow. >> Um, so losing Stinky was like the end of an era, you know. He was he he's been through like everything with us. And so when he died, it was like >> that was hard to handle. Uh, and then the other one is Duff. He was our first dog. Uh, like my first pregnancy, the first home we bought, like he saw us through. He died at I think almost 16. He was a Sheba Enu. Uh, but he was our first like he'd go on trips with us in the car like to Kansas and [ __ ] you know? He was like our first child in essence. >> Chad's making us cry. Chad's making us be sad and cry. Thanks, Chad. >> When Yeah. When Duff died >> when Duff that we brought someone to the house to put Duff to sleep, >> um, I literally couldn't breathe. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I would bring those two back. They're like the first kind of experience I ever had with I think like nurturing another living thing and they felt like children to me. >> Sure. >> You know what that is? One thing too uh when you said that you let him go at the house and put him to sleep. There's one thing I would have done different with Max. We also had to put him down. He couldn't breathe any longer. We held him for 12, 14 hours that night to breathe. I made the call to our vet at 4:00 a.m. She was there within 2 hours when he went peacefully and Kitty was in dad's arms watching because they were brother sister from birth. They were in the same litter. So she watched and then he passed and then I asked dad, "You want to hold him?" Dad couldn't take it. He was not the strong magnolia I thought he was. He couldn't take it. He had to leave. >> He couldn't take Magnolia. >> He He crumbled. He took Kitty in his arms and went inside. >> So then it was my duty. I picked Max up and um our vet was going to take him to the cremation place. I wished I would have held him at least 30 minutes. I didn't get my last chance there to hold him a little bit longer. And to this day, I think about that at night when I go to sleep. I wish I would have held Max longer, but I didn't get that chance. So, Kitty, she might be with me for three or four walking around the house with a blanket around her. >> Yeah. >> Please don't do that. That's a Netflix documentary waiting to be made about the crazy woman with the dead dog. >> Rudy kind of died in my arms at the vet and then I had to call dad. So, it was 45 minutes later before dad got there. So I had Rudy for a good 45 minutes after death. >> Yeah, >> Max. I should have held him longer. >> Well, you know that you know in certain states you can petition the state to get like if you have to get legal rights to do this, but when your loved ones pass, you can have them in your home for up to like 10 days or some [ __ ] to be able to properly grieve >> the loss of a person. do that in a >> well like if you read the psychology behind it like this this idea that someone is ripped from you in a moment and like all you get are those 10 minutes those 30 minutes to like say goodbye. It's not enough. Everyone grieavves differently. >> And so you can in essence like >> keep whatever person you want in your home. They tell you how to take care of them. You got to pack them with ice and [ __ ] Like you got to do a bunch of [ __ ] because they're decomposing. But like it allows you the ability to like properly kind of like say goodbye. >> We should have taxi dermed both both Max and Rudy. I could have them right here beside me. >> Sure. Um >> I just have ashes. >> For what it's worth, I don't think this will be the last time we see any of these creatures. And I I think we are all kind of part of the same thing anyway. >> Um for me, my answer is twofold. One is Putty, the cat we had all through high school. Well, Haley, you brought that cat home from a babysitter when we were super young. You You got You had to have been 5 years old or so. >> Haley was impressed. >> Put me at like 8 to 10. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um I loved that cat. She died when I went away to college, but she was an incredible cat. Many adventures with her. She used to sleep in my bed under the covers like in my legs. I would make like a little circle for her to sleep in. Um she was a fantastic cat. I just really loved her. She had a bunch of kittens. She was kind of like uh she got busy out in the neighborhood. She killed a rabbit once by chewing off its head. I remember that. Uh had a little bit of the savage in her. But it would be that cat and it would be a squirrel named Squirrelius. >> Squirrelas >> who used to visit me literally every day. Would sit on the couch with me, let me pet her like a cat. She had two litters of babies immediately outside my bedroom window in this little flower box. And she would let me come out every morning. I would greet her. She would stretch and then run off into the trees to do whatever for like 10 minutes and leave me to watch over these literal day old squirrel babies. And if you follow me on Instagram and you scroll back far enough, you'll see documentation of all of this. Uh my Instagram used to only be pictures of squirrels. But yeah, she was an interesting little creature. >> She came in the day we were there in your apartment. She sat on my uh leg for a minute and then took off. I got to meet her. >> Yeah, she was crazy. She would follow me around the neighborhood like a dog. Like if I was walking down the street to the grocery store and she was in a tree and saw me, she would come out of the tree and just like follow me. >> About both of those pets, the sad part of that is for you, you don't know what happened. We don't know where Putty went. Putty walked out of our garage one night, never came back. She did have cancer. We knew that. So they always say when pets are like that, they walk away to die. She walked out of our lives, we never saw her again. >> Same with Squirrelas. I prefer it that way though. >> You want to haul the the dead dog body around for three days. I'm like, >> I do. >> Please. I don't want to see the death because I don't think it's real. >> It's worse than like for me. I mean, like losing these pets because they're with you every day, all day long. And I was like a stay-at-home mom. So, I was literally with these animals all [ __ ] day. And when they die, it is like losing >> a person. Kitty will be bad because I know she's our last of the Moheakans. We are not going to have any more pets. We've done this for 50 been married 50 years, but we had a dog before we got married even. So, 52 years we've had dogs and cats >> and no more dogs and cats. So, this is it. So, I'll probably have her a good week in the house walking around with me. >> Yeah. I just prefer to not see it because I I I really do view death at this point in my life as just kind of like a >> a temporary parting of ways. >> We'll see him. We'll see him again. >> But you're not if even if that's true, you're not cognizant of of any of this when you come back. >> Well, are you or are you not? You believe in past lives? Watch some [ __ ] on that. Read up on that. >> Do you >> What was your p then? What was your past life? What do you feel was how do you find that out? >> Everything that I've watched and read about past lives >> kind of indicates that your memories from the past life are stronger when you're very young. And as you develop new memories and this whatever the next incarnation is, it kind of like replaces or removes your ability to connect with your your prior existence. So at the I mean I'm [ __ ] 49 years old. If I had any of that [ __ ] any access to it as a kid, it's gone. But you have all these stories of uh little kids talking like telling their parents about like, "Wow, yeah, I used to live in New Jersey." And no, no, no. And the parents are just like, "What?" They're just saying weird [ __ ] But like some parents will follow that trail and it gets very detailed. Uh I think at this point statistically it's very hard to argue against the fact that that is real. >> I I feel like I've just never experienced it. I don't >> Yeah. >> I don't recall a past life. I need to know that that's real to believe it, I guess. How do I know? >> I have I was an Indian. I was an Indian. >> Do you mean native? >> In first and second grade, I'd always draw teepee and Indians and my teacher would say, "Why are you doing this?" >> American. >> Yeah. Native Indian. American Indian. >> Native American. >> Yes. Native. >> I was like a Pocahontas. And the teacher would always ask me, "Why are you always drawing these?" I said, "I've been there. I've been in that teepee." Mhm. Yeah. >> Interesting. All right, let's move on to >> uh this is kind of a lighter topic. Trump on the roof. This week, Trump was seen meandering around on the roof of the White House when reporters became aware of the bizarre behavior. They began shouting questions to him. One of which was, "What are you trying to build?" He responded by saying, "Missiles. Nuclear missiles." No one knows what prompted Trump to wander out onto the roof of the building and talk about nuclear weapons, but everybody is wondering. Mom, is this presidential behavior? >> Okay. Yes, it is. And that you said he's you said they said nuclear missiles when I Googled and looked it up and I forgot to copy it off. He was he stated something different of the stuff that I read. It was like >> I saw the video. >> He was viewing things um for the for the ballroom or whatever that he's going to make on top or on the bottom or something. Yeah, he was out there with the architect, but but reporters were like, "What are you trying to build?" And he goes, "Missiles, nuclear missiles." And he makes like a arm gesture like missiles taking off. >> I had that written down and now I can't find it. But the thing that I read was different. He didn't say missiles. >> He did. >> No, he didn't. >> He literally did. >> Let me ask you this. If Biden would have started wandering around on the the White House roof and saying he's gonna build nuclear missiles, would you have been okay with that? >> No. >> No. Because he would have fallen off and that would have been that. >> Okay. All right. You have literally no problem with this absolutely insane behavior. >> That's not insane. He had people up there. They were scouring where they're going to build the ballroom or something and he didn't I would love to see the clip with missiles that he said missiles. >> I should have pulled it. I didn't think you would even question it. Um, all right. Well, let's let's move on then to our next topic, which is Trump's renovations of the White House. This week, Trump destroyed the iconic White House rose garden and replaced it with a white stone patio to make it look more like Mara Lago. Inside the White House, Trump filled the walls with fake gold accents, including gilded medallions, cherubs, mirrors, and decorative figurines. Trump has also announced a $200 million funded donorfunded ballroom on the White House grounds. It will be a 90,000 square foot expansion attached to the east wing, also styled in faux gold accents. Um, Mom, do you think the White House Rose Garden should have been destroyed? >> It was not destroyed. The inside of the grass has uh the pavement now or the pavers that was put in the middle. The roses were pushed out. I think it was in 2020 there were only 12 rose bushes and um Melania at that time added 200 more. All of that was salvaged. Most of it was pushed off to the side or or planted somewhere else. And I do have that somewhere in a in a um >> that's fine. I I'm not saying that they killed all the the rose bushes, but that garden where it was located, that iconic piece of the White House grounds is now not there. He replaced it with just like cement and some lawn chairs. >> It's renovated. That's what I would call a renovation where people can actually use that now. And the roses were pushed out. I see nothing wrong with it. >> Okay. Haley, is it important to you at all? the the White House Roseguard. >> No, I don't really I mean, no. I don't give a [ __ ] I feel like it's >> I don't know. There's so much other There are so many other things that I worry about every day. Do I give a [ __ ] about him paving? I don't know. I mean, it's like a a thing at the White House and and uh you know, historically, it's something that that people recognize. It's like iconic of the White House. Um, you know, so it's a little it's a little sad to think that he just destroyed a piece of American history. Um, >> he didn't destroy it. It's still there. Now people can actually sit out there where they put and outside. >> Donald Trump is in the White House. Like he's taking down photos of people and putting up his photos of himself. He's [ __ ] trying to build a mini Versailles. Like I this is none of this is shocking. It's not shocking. It's to be expected. He's a piece of [ __ ] He is the president. He can renovate whatever he wants. The way other presidents did in the past, he can do whatever he wants. I think it's funny that you guys on the liberal side are like losing your mind over this. I think we're losing our mind. >> Nobody's losing talking to you about it. It was one of the big news stories this week. >> And the ballroom, you're losing your mind over that. >> Well, I'm gonna ask you about that, too. Let me ask you this. >> Losing your mind about who brought the cocaine in? I would still like to know that. Nobody gives a crap about that. >> I don't care about cocaine. >> I Yeah, I don't either. Okay. >> Okay. Let me ask you this, Mom. Do you think doing all these renovations, meeting with architects, meeting with interior designers, having all this stuff done, do you think that is the best use of the president of the United States's time? >> I'm sure he's not spending that much time on that. A or you can't even go there because he's not spending your tax dollars on it either. This is all being funded by him and other patriots. the ballroom is being privately funded. The other stuff inside the White House is not what I'm asking you is if he's spending any time on it at all. He also has spent 70% of his time as president at his golf courses. >> Like do you think that's how the president should be spending most of his time when the world is falling down? >> They do need leisure time. >> I guess Biden needed a lot at the ocean all the time, too. So, >> forget Biden. I I agree with you. Biden's he took too much time uh on vacation as well. I'm you you have this thing where whenever we say Trump is doing this bad thing, you're like, "Well, Biden did the bad thing, too." I agree with you. None of them should be doing >> bad. I don't think what Trump is doing now is not bad. He can run. >> Okay. Then why did you [ __ ] on Biden for doing time as he wants to on it? Because >> Biden should have been able to too. >> Look at all the other time that he is spending on the good things, too. >> Hang on. I just want to get into the logic of this. You say Trump >> came to my brain. It came to my brain when you said time wise using time wisely. It popped into my brain that Biden didn't use time wisely at all. So, >> okay. But you should have no problem with that. If you have no problem with Trump doing it, you should have no problem with Biden doing it >> because Trump is productive in other areas. Biden was not. >> Okay. Um, do you think, Mom, that he should be building a ballroom? >> Uh, gilding the White House with goldplated whatevers. >> I love it. I think it's wonderful. >> While Americans are starving, while there is a genocide going on in Gaza, while all these terrible things are happening, a lot of which has to do with money getting sucked to the top. And he is representing exactly that, that I am rich. I can do whatever I want. Well, you starve. Well, >> it is literally like Versailles. >> I don't >> It is literally the let them eat cake philosophy. >> No, I don't look at it like that at all. I look at it he's renovating some things. Um, some of the state dinners and stuff, I guess. Um, I read something where they were just putting up white tents like a circus and having state dinners from, you know, other countries. What's wrong with having a nice ballroom to go into for state dinners >> to dance? >> It's the image it represents that he is surrounding himself with these goddy decorations and building ballrooms in his honor where he's going to host these dignitaries. Even what he did at like Mara Lago and his kid that opened that uh I forget what the name of it is now. They opened a private club, K Street maybe it was called, or maybe it was on K Street where you can pay to get access to them. There's this whole idea that he is positioning himself as this super rich king of America while literal Americans are struggling to put food on the table as inflation is going to soar out of control. All these tariffs are [ __ ] wrecking all these American businesses. He touted all these big numbers, billions of dollars in tariffs coming into America. That's paid by American companies. It's money getting sucked straight to the top. >> I don't look at it like that at all. He h he can renovate. He can do whatever he wants. He's president. >> It also feels it also feels like he's getting comfy. Like are we leaving in three years? >> Probably not. And tariffs that are bringing money into us and giving Americans paychecks. But >> those aren't the tariffs are not bringing money into us. It is taking money from American companies and giving it to the government. You understand American companies are paying the tariffs? Do you understand that? >> Yes. I think tariffs are good. They've always been good. I like tariffs. >> Good for who? >> Our economy. >> You mean your president? >> Our economy to make things even. >> Nothing is even. >> Wait a minute. How does it make things even when American any company that's importing foreign goods has to pay that tax? They're the ones paying it. >> Haley, you're probably affected by this. You own a small business where you you're dealing with literal physical goods all the time, food stuffs. >> I'm sure you've seen prices go up. So, you're paying more money directly to >> I pay more money, which means my customers then have to pay more money. Otherwise, I make no profit and I cannot pay my people to [ __ ] live. >> All right, mom's out. Let's do one more topic here. The genocide continues. This week, Israel's security cabinet further escalated their planned genocide of the people of Gaza when they publicly authorized a military campaign to take control of Gaza City. This is the first time Israeli forces have been assigned to hold Gaza's largest urban center, which was home to over 650,000 people before the genocide began. UN Secretary General Antonio Gutas denounced the decision as a quote dangerous escalation that could deepen Gaza's catastrophic humanitarian crisis and endanger lives. Germany suspended arms exports to Israel for use in Gaza. UK and France condemned the plan, warning that force displacement and occupation violate international law. Other nations, including Australia, Turkey, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the Czech Republic criticized the move, labeling it a grave escalation, ethically unacceptable, and genocidal. The US has not outright condemned Israel's plan, but is pursuing urgent diplomatic engagement. Uh Haley, what is going on there, in my opinion, is a genocide. Do you think Netanyahu is ever going to face consequences for this? >> I don't know. I mean, the United States is literally their [ __ ] ally. We are literally supplying >> Yeah. >> the weapons that are [ __ ] murdering these people. >> Yes. So, uh, when we're the big bad and we are the superpower and we are [ __ ] evil as [ __ ] is our is our buddy going to be punished? Probably [ __ ] not. It may take the rest of the countries in the [ __ ] world that are part of the UN that are [ __ ] they've had enough. Like, maybe. But even then, like, we are the biggest we are the biggest bad. It's us. >> Yeah. >> And they're our buddy. So, I don't think so. Donald Trump isn't answering for [ __ ] Why would Netanyahu? Like, we're literally putting brown people in concentration camps. Nobody's answering for that [ __ ] >> Oh my god. >> Like, everything is off the rails right now. All of the evil people in the whole [ __ ] world are coming together to join a [ __ ] super force. I don't see any of these [ __ ] answering for any of this [ __ ] Mom, you're shaking your head like you don't believe any of this is real or what? What's your >> No, I believe it's real. I don't know the answer how it should stop. It needs to stop. I can't even watch it when I see it on TV. So, I just turn it off. That's >> We [ __ ] put a stop to it by putting a stop to Israel. That's what should happen. >> That's not going to happen. So, how's it going to stop? >> Exactly. >> Do you in any way, Mom, see any similarities between what Hitler was doing No. >> To the Jews? >> No. >> You don't? >> No. >> Why? >> No. >> Have you Have you seen the photos of babies dying of starvation? >> Yeah. Yes, I have. It's terrible. I don't know the answer to this one. I really don't. I don't know. >> But you're saying you don't you don't you don't think it's the same as Nazi Germany? But those images of those children that are skeletons, that isn't reminiscent at all to you of concentration camps in Nazi Germany? Yes, >> the pictures look the same. Yes. >> Bodies stacked on top of each other a mile high. >> Like I said, I can't watch it. Someone needs to figure this out. It's not >> But you should watch it. Stop. >> You should watch it. >> Little me can't figure this out. I There's no >> I'm asking you to figure it out. I'm asking like I'm I'm trying to get into your your mindset where you're saying I can't look at these images. But you acknowledge that that is happening, that Netanyahu, the current Israeli government, is designing a plan to kill an entire population, a genocide, using military force for starvation, um denying access to aid, killing people in line for that aid, just shooting them. And you you understand all that. You're acknowledging that's happening, but you then don't >> has to step up and stop it. Maybe it's the United States. I don't know. >> It's not going to be us. But of course, I agree with you there. What I'm saying is you acknowledge all these things are happening. These are the exact same tactics used in Nazi Germany and you can't make the correlation. >> Different time, different place. Different time, different place, different >> [ __ ] >> It's not a war. >> Oh, you always say that. >> It's because >> they're fighting back. It's an entire group of people fighting for their [ __ ] lives. They just want to eat. >> They're not fighting. No one's fighting back. There's no opposition to what Israel is doing. The only fighting you see is people clamoring over each other to try and get a bowl of slop that might sustain them for another day. >> There is no >> there's nothing else I can say. >> I'm not asking you to solve it. >> There's nothing else I can say about it. I don't want to talk about it. >> Okay. Well, I have one more question about it. Mom, you don't think this moment is like Nazi Germany? How do you think it will be remembered in history? >> Genocide. >> I don't know. One of the worst times ever. For sure. >> It is another Holocaust. >> I agree. >> Like, we're watching it play out right before our very [ __ ] eyes, and America isn't doing jack [ __ ] about it. >> Something has to stop. Stop it. I don't know. I don't know the answer. >> Well, perhaps if we had a different president, we might be stopping it. >> Would we? Biden didn't. >> I was gonna say >> that [ __ ] was the one who gave him all the the guns in the first place. >> I was going to say, yeah, but but I can't say that name. Remember, I can't say that name. >> No, you can say whatever you want. I'm just saying like you always use the Biden thing as like, well, Biden did it. When we say Trump's doing this bad [ __ ] you're like, well, Biden did it. And I'm agreeing with you and I'm saying they're both pieces of [ __ ] >> That's the the line you won't cross. >> Clintons, >> I can go further back, but I won't. >> Of course, >> let's say I love you. >> Oh my god. All right, fine. I I just want to make one one final little thing, one little point to you. >> I don't mind that you bring up like Biden did this, Clinton's did this, the Democrats did that [ __ ] too. >> You jump on my ass every time. Yes, you do. Listen, >> we're not talking about that. >> Okay, this is what I'm trying to get to. This is the point of it. If you say Biden did that, too, and you hate Biden, then why don't you hate Trump for doing the same thing? >> I Okay, I don't know how many times I've said this. I am proud to be an American. >> I love this country that we live in. >> You're not answering the question. I like President Trump at this point in time, but I don't like a lot of the people that are doing things within our country the wrong way. >> This is not an answer to my question. It's not even close. >> Let me hear the question again. I'm delirious. I'm tired. What's the question? >> The question is, you say Biden, whenever I say Trump is doing something bad, you say, "Well, Biden did that, too." So, you're kind of acknowledging implicitly that Trump is doing a bad thing. >> No, but not right now. No. >> Okay, hang on. So, you I say Trump did this and you're like, well, Biden did it, too. >> I hear what you saying there. You're trying to trap me. You're not going to trap me. >> I'm not trying to trap you. I'm trying to free you to see objectively what is going on here. You have a weird double standard >> today. I don't need freeing. >> All right. You're You're unwilling to engage this, so let's end it. Haley, I love you. Welcome back. I'm glad you had a good trip. Mom, I love you, too. Thank you for indulging this conversation as much as you're capable. And wherever dad is, I hope he's sleeping well and recovering to some degree. I hope he comes back on the show soon. >> I hope maybe next week. We'll see. I love you, Haley. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Mom, I love you. Chad, I love you. Tell dad I love him. >> Good one. >> What was that? A This is getting so bad at the end. I do love I love both of you. >> And I love Bob and Kitty and Max. And Haley, you never said where you went. Real quick, where were all the places that you went? >> Uh, it was our summer family vacation. So, we all flew to San Francisco, drove to Napa, drove to the Redwoods National Park. I've been up there. >> Um drove uh the PCH for a little while to get back to San Francisco to fly home. >> Nice. >> Fine. Are you tired? >> Yeah. But also don't want to be in Texas. So it always moving out here. >> I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. I love it. >> Yeah, it's great. Uh, especially like up north, like Northern California, you know, the closer you get to Oregon, >> Oregon is my vibe. I like Oregon. I like the rain. I like the no sun. I love when it's lush. I love Oregon and like Washington State. >> Mhm. >> I love it. >> I'll never live in California. You can unless you've got me in an urn with >> I don't I don't know why you say that. I don't know why you sit for You've never been No, you've never been up north >> up like as you go more north. It's really pretty. The weather is really nice. >> It's actually California. California I think, look this up, is like the horse capital of the United States. >> Okay. I think I've been to LA. I don't like LA. I've been south. Don't like South. >> You've never >> I will never live in California. Mark my words. All right. Well, that's our show. We will see you next week. Bye.