Is American Democracy Completely Gone Now?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. >> And guess what? I'm giving up watching the memorial because it hasn't even started here yet. They said three 300,000 people are there. >> Okay. >> Wow. >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colch and with me is my sister, fellow lefty Haley Pope and my parents who are missing the Charlie Kirk memorial to be here. They say >> I'll view it later. Don't worry. >> I'm just missing it live. I'll view it later. This is a show where we are going to discuss the biggest political issues of the week. Dad, are you with us? >> Yeah, a lot. >> He had a bad night. Here's what happened. The doctor said, "Give him B12 for energy." >> Okay. >> I gave it to him at 9:00 at night. It makes you not sleep. So, most of the night he didn't get any rest. And it was our doctor said give it to him twice a day. So, >> okay. Hopefully you can power through this hour of conversation with your family. Mom, do you want to start the show with any diddies? >> Yes, I have one funny one and then I'll do my regular one. Um, okay. So, on Tik Tok, on Tik Tok, I love My Lord per bless you. On Tik Tok, I do I love to watch the perfume dupes, you know. I love dupes. And this one really isn't a dupe, but I just had to buy this to try it. It's G O D A >> Wh GoD, >> right? >> This is not a sponsorship. >> No, it's not. It says >> I'm saying that. I'm telling everyone watching and listening. My mom is not being paid to do this. >> The sense of seduction for her. It has to do with pherommones. Okay. You got this because you saw that it was Rihanna's scent, didn't you? >> Yes. And I did see >> That is not That's not Reana. That's not it. >> Okay. Anyway, I have tried this now for one week. I've put it in the pressure little points they tell you to so that your pherommones get going. I can honestly say he >> it got dad walking again. >> No, he has not even commented. But Shiny sure loves it. He's been sniffing on me, licking on me. He smells it. He does smell it. So if you want your horse to lick and smell you and get that perfume or it's not really perfume, it's oil. Pheram pheramone oil. >> Thank you. >> Okay. RIP Charlie Kirk. Today is your celebration of life and your memorial. We will watch you later, Dad and I will. RIP to hanging victims in Mississippi. >> We're gonna talk about that later. >> RIP Robert Redford. RIP Britt James. >> His wife, his child, and the pilot went down. Do you know who that is, you guys? >> No. >> I did Google. I He is a um he does words. He does musical. He does words for musicians. >> Okay. >> And he's um the big one. >> What? lyrics. >> Yes. Yes. The big one he's done is for Carrie Underwood, Jesus Take the Wheel. He also did Taylor Swift lyrics. He did Kelly Clarkson and Bon Joy and Jason Aldine. So, all those people that was a bunch of them went down this week. That was my Diddy. >> All right. Now, we are going to uh field a question from somebody out there who watches or listens to this podcast. If you have a question you want to send to us, all you got to do is record it in a 1 minute or shorter video format and email that video to the necessary conversation [email protected]. While I appreciate the uh amount and length of many of the emails we get at that address that are just books written about personal experiences or what they think we should be doing with this podcast or how much they hate me or Haley or you, mom or dad or whatever. I appreciate all of those. I simply don't have time to read them. Uh I literally am looking for which emails have a video attachment and I am downloading those and looking at them to find questions like this one. Are you ready? >> And how long? How long can they be? >> One minute or shorter. >> Okay, >> here we go. >> Um I am Britney and although I'm not an family therapist, I am an art therapist here in Memphis, Tennessee. So if you ever want to explore your family dynamic through some art making, please let me know. Otherwise, um my question is actually about mental health. Um and so for all of you guys, um considering our country is essentially in a state of collective trauma, uh with all the violence and the divisiveness and all the scary stuff happening right now, what do you do to take care of your mental health? I I'm not necessarily talking about the family unit. I know you guys talk about how you use the podcast to kind of compartmentalize your um challenges, but my question is for how do you guys individually practice self-care? I think it's super important that we all take care of ourselves. Yes, even you, Bob. So, um I'm curious uh what you have to say. Thank you. >> You understand what she just asked? Okay. It's been a crazy >> You didn't understand it. >> He didn't understand. >> Could you not hear it? >> Oh, is that a bug on you? What the hell? It's from my flowers I brought in. Oh my god. Dad has a bug going on him. Just a minute. [ __ ] >> I think we Okay. >> The question is, what do you do for self-care? How do you handle your own mental health? Mom is always talking about uh gun violence isn't the fault of guns or bad gun regulations. It's mental health. So, the question has turned back on all of us. How do you deal with your mental health? What do you do to stay sane uh to to make sure that you have a good state of mental health? Mom, >> me? Oh, okay. I was going to throw it to him, but um garden, flowers, outside, nature, look for my bunny rabbits. uh chase off chicken uh these chicken hawks that are trying to kill my little birds in the backyard. And of course, I ride my horse and I walk every day. >> Dad, >> I don't have a mental health problem. >> Oh my god. Okay. Where did you go yesterday? >> Huh? >> Where did you go yesterday? >> People have mental health problems of transgenders. >> Okay, stop it. >> We're not saying that you have a problem. The question is what do you do to feel okay? What makes you happy is essentially the question >> that I would saw the horse >> shiny. >> Okay. So seeing the horse >> gazing upon the ecoin vis of shiny. >> Yeah. >> Thanks for participating. Haley, >> what do you got? >> Uh I work out quite literally every morning. um eat a vegan diet, drink ample amounts of water, take care of myself physically, and uh travel as often as [ __ ] possible to get out of this country as often as possible. >> All right. For me, working out is kind of a part of it, but the biggest part is probably explorations into the astral plane, deep levels of human consciousness through explor uh >> look, it helps for me to each their own. Whatever you got to do to get through this [ __ ] day, please do so. For me, a lot of it is about detaching from this thing and realizing that it's not real because that >> Whoa. >> The lady that did the question too, she >> wicked. >> Wicked also brings me joy. >> She said she was an art therapist. I do a lot of art. I have a secondary in art. I love to do art. I think you're making art right now. >> Yeah. I think I'm gonna open um u like sell some of my stuff. Oh, cool. >> Let me know. Send me a link. We'll we'll put that out on the necessary conversation uh socials and stuff if you do it. >> Okay. Nothing's going to be less than I'll probably start 500 and up. My time is worth it. >> Okay. Uh thank you for your question. I hope that's answered it uh properly. Again, if anybody else wants to send us a question, you just record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. What's going on with you two? We Okay, let's just get into this. Our first topic is Jimmy Kimmel. After years of telling jokes about presidents and politicians from both parties, this week, Jimmy Kimmel was indefinitely suspended from broadcast by ABC, who made the decision after threats from Donald Trump and his FCC chair, Brendan Carr. Here's the timeline. Kimmel does his monologue on 9:15 and he says, I'm going to play these clips right now so that we have we all have a a baseline of what we're talking about. This is what Jimmy Kimmel said. You ready? >> New lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. You can see how hard the president is taking this. >> My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask sir personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir? >> I think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the trucks. They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House. >> Yes. He's at the fourth stage of grief construction. >> Okay. So, that's what Oh, look at you guys pretending to be so offended. Oh my god, look at mom's face. I can't believe he said that. Oh, >> you thought it was funny. That last joke before >> he's in the construction phase of grief. That's a funny [ __ ] joke. >> It was. It was good. >> Hello. >> Okay. He should have been pulled off the air several years ago. He's not funny. Um, >> doesn't matter if you think that or not. >> I don't think that was funny at all. >> It does, too, because 99% of the people in America agree with us. >> That's not right. Let's Okay, let's move on. Hang on. Before we get into this conversation, I have a few more clues to play. So then on uh 2 days later, Brendan Carr, who is Trump's appointed chair of the FCC, goes on a podcast and says this, >> a license granted by us at the FCC and that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest. And we can get into some ways that we've been trying to reinvigorate the public interest and some changes that we've seen. But frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. these companies can find ways to change conduct and take action frankly uh on Kimmel or you know there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead. >> All right. So he does a kind of mafioso easy way or the hard way if you can either take him off the air or we'll revoke your license is basically what he's saying. Um, also that day, two of the biggest ABC affiliate owners, Sinclair and NextStar, announced that they are going to preempt Kimmel on their local broadcast. They're just going to take him off the air on their own. This is because NextStar right now has on the table a deal for $6.2 billion to buy another giant affiliate group. In order to do that deal, they need the approval of Brennan Carr, the FCC chair, because the deal is not legal. There right now is a law in place that says none of these affiliate groups can own more than I think it's like 38% of all total networks in the country. This deal if it goes through will give them an 80% stake. So they need Trump's guy to allow them to break the law. That night after Carr says all this [ __ ] Kimmel yanked off the air indefinitely. And uh earlier this week on another network called Fox, >> you wait. >> Hello. >> Go ahead. >> You guys there >> on Fox. >> On Fox, uh we have a video that I'm about to play now from a Fox anchor saying this about homeless people. >> Take the resources that we're going to give you and or you decide that you're going to be locked up in jail. That's the way it has to be now. >> Or uh involuntary lethal injection or something. Uh, just kill them. >> Okay, that's Brian. Kill me. >> Jesus. >> He says that you should give lethal injections to homeless people involuntarily. Just kill them. Then after he says that, the following week, a mass shooting takes place in a homeless encampment in uh Minnesota. So that man's words literally led to people getting shot in a homeless camp. Jimmy Kimmel's joke has led to nothing except him getting yanked off the air. So my first question is, Mom, do you think the First Amendment is important? >> Yes. But I also think that what is important is when you are hired by these companies, by the networks, that you have a standard and you need to um you need to apply that standard or you can get fired. >> Okay, I need to hang on. Hang on right there. No, no, wait. Mom, wait. Because what you're saying right now, you're not taking into account what I've just shown you. That standard that you think exists is not being applied evenly. You just saw a guy on Fox News and he needs to get fired. He fired. >> He ain't getting fired. >> He will get fired. I bet. >> Abs. No, he is an ap he's back on the air. >> Okay, let me get >> He needs to be fired in two I need to get to this. I really want to say this, >> okay, >> cuz you know this about viewers and how important >> dad is literally pulling a trump here all >> does he need does he need a B12 >> viewers viewers and how important it is for TV shows and networks in 2015 Kimmel had 1.6 6 million viewers. That was 10 years ago. >> Okay. >> This year in 2025, Chad, guess what? How many viewers he had? >> You don't want to get into this conversation. >> 261,000. >> Doesn't matter. Network TV is dying across the board. Hang on. If you're going here, let's go here. >> I'm going here. >> All network TV is in the [ __ ] toilet. It is dying. We're witnessing the death throws of it. And I think this FCC [ __ ] that ABC just pulled uh may be the end of it. There are people boycotting it, yanking their Disney Plus memberships because of it. We got to get Dad out of here. He's literally just sleeping through this. >> Are you asleep? Go lay down. >> I'm not asleep. >> If you need to go listening, >> he's listening. We can't have you sitting there sleeping in the [ __ ] chair while we're doing the show. If you're not going to participate in it, go to sleep somewhere. >> Do you want to participate? >> I'm fine. I'm listening. >> He's listening and then he'll if the if he doesn't respond then we'll kick him out and he has to go to bed. >> Can you give him a B12? >> It's unfucking believable. >> He did have a B12. >> Sorry, Mom. Go ahead. You were talking about the ratings, which you're not right. You're just wrong. Everyone has lost viewership in the last 10 years. >> The old comedians that used to be on TV and a friend of mine sent me a clip of Johnny Carson. This was like in 1979. It was a 60-minute clip with Mike Wallace. Here's what Johnny Carson said. He would never talk about a serious um confrontation or topic when he gave his comedy speeches due to the fact he said it's very dangerous. >> And that it's dangerous in that those comics when they say stuff like what Kimmel just said, they think they're greater than thou and what they're saying is more important than their comedy. >> Let me stop you right there. Let me stop you right there. Johnny Carson never had to deal with a president like Donald Trump who is making direct attacks. He had other people he >> he never got into politics online about that or said anything online like >> like >> I hate to break it to you. Johnny Carson was on TV before the internet existed. Mom, >> that they're happy that someone was dead and things like that. >> Yeah. Was Did Johnny Carson do this in a tweet? Mom, did he say it in a tweet? Was it Instagram? >> It was on a video. It was on a video. >> I'm joking. Mom, you're you're not understanding. That's a different world. >> Not really. >> When Johnny Carson was alive. Not really. There was no internet. There was no Twitter. No Truth Social. >> What it is, there was no reality TV. >> Someone has a brain that knows what to say when they're doing comedy on TV. >> You watched the Jimmy Kimmel clip, didn't you? You watched like the full clip. >> Yes. I thought we just watched it. He never said he never said anything bad about Charlie Kirk. >> Number one, >> he was making fun of Donald Trump for literally not giving a [ __ ] that Charlie Kirk died. >> He's like, "How you holding up? Doing great. Here's my >> the beginning of what he said. He said that the 22-year-old kid was MAGA." >> No, he didn't. >> What's What's >> No, he did not. No, he did not. What you just said right there is a lie. >> Exactly what he said. >> Okay, read it. The joke he's making, the comment he's making is about Republicans trying to use Charlie Kirk's death to navigate away from the idea that that kid is MAGA. >> Here's Kimmel's exact quote because I knew you guys would try to push off. >> We literally just watched it. I played the clip. all said that the MAGA gang is desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Cook is anything other than one of them >> and doing everything they can to score political points from it. >> Yes. >> Only in between the finger pointing there was grieving. >> That's what he stated. Number one, the kid was not MAGA. We know this. >> He didn't say he was >> say that. He didn't say he was. He said the Republicans, the MAGA gang are trying. No, listen, Mom. You're making a statement that is not accurate. >> You're saying he said that kid is MAGA. He didn't say that. >> He said the MAGA Republicans are trying to get political points and spin it so that he is not MAGA. >> Well, I don't think he should have said anything at all. Whether you're taking it one way, I'm taking it another. He's not a comic. He's really a sad person and he needs to be yanked by the network that yanked him. Not by >> Okay, >> Trump. Trump Trump didn't do this to him. He did it. Are you out of your [ __ ] mind? I just played you the network doesn't believe in. >> It is a direct attack from Trump's FCC chair, Brennan Carr, saying if ABC doesn't yank him, we will take [ __ ] into our own hands. Mafia style. You You watch the clip I play. is given the opportunity to make an apology and give money to Turning Point. He chose not to do that. He was not going to apologize for what he said. >> Yeah. The network said >> the local affiliates, none of them wanted him. Uh >> but that's because of the deal I talked about. The local affiliates don't give a [ __ ] what's on their airwaves as long as they own them. >> Taken down. He's no good. He's not very good. >> So you My question is this and we'll go to Dad if you can handle this. you there with us? >> He's listening. >> Do you think the First Amendment is important? And do you believe this is an attack on it? >> No, I do not believe this is an attack on the First Amendment. >> Okay. Mom, you don't either? >> No. He got fired because he was no good and he said stuff he shouldn't say that uh that did not >> I don't see how you can say this. I literally played you the clips >> that did not align with the people that hired him. >> Anytime you work for a company, >> you put words you put words in Carr's mouth that never came out. >> I played you the clip of him speaking the words. You were asleep during it, but I did play it. >> No, I I heard he never once said either or. >> He said, "You can do this or we'll do it the hard way." He did say what I did. What's the hard way? >> What I did, >> the hard way is obviously the implication mafioso style is we will remove your license. >> That's your opinion. >> What I did read too, if they didn't yank him that night, >> your opinion and it doesn't matter. >> He was going to go on the next night and take down Trump and Trump supporters and say bad things. >> But right after this happened, Trump also came like into I think it was on Instagram like White House official and started attacking Seth Meyers and Jimmy Fallon. They hadn't done anything yet and he already said preemptively basically like guess we're going to have to come after them too. This is a complete censorship of it starts with the arts. Like you've seen all of the articles written about how Nazi Germany began. They are literally cherrypicking what is going to be shown to us. They are curating our media. >> That's your >> This is 100% They're censoring media. >> That's it. You guys, we're we're in it now. We're living in an authoritarian country now. Do you understand that? >> Opinion. >> Oh, I guess so. This is a to this. So, this Listen to this. In a statement from NextStar President of Broadcasting, Jimmy Kimmel's comments were offensive, insensitive, and do not reflect the values of the local communities in which we are located. That is the reason he got fired. >> Okay. The reason that next door person is saying that is because they want to make $6.2 billion. That's all they care about. >> Okay? >> Any of these companies, ABC is the same way. The reason they did this is because they thought it was going to hurt their bottom line. They do not. ABC, Bob Iger, Disney, none of these people give a [ __ ] about freedom of speech or any of that [ __ ] They care about money and power. That is it. That's what this all about. >> They must care about what he said there. That's why he was fired. Okay, we're going to move on from Jimmy Kimmel because you guys don't [ __ ] get it at all. >> Okay, >> this week also >> Trump has come out. >> Trump has come out and said, >> "Dad, you're literally asleep for most of this episode so far. So, you ain't getting [ __ ] >> Go to bed. Go to bed. >> That's fine. >> You're gonna wake up and say that's funny." >> They also came out and said the press pool that covers the White House and the Pentagon, >> go to bed. You're not going to make it. Go. Go to bed. Wait. No. What's going on? >> Stop. >> Do you not want him on? >> Yes. Just open your eyes, Shelby. Open your Open your eyes. >> Should I go get a B12? >> Trump also came out this week. Please listen to this that we're we're literally at, I think, a critical breaking point here. The Civil War dad you've been clamoring for is right around the [ __ ] corner. >> And I don't think you guys are going to like the outcome of it. Um, Trump also came out this week and said the Pentagon, the the press pool that covers the Pentagon and the White House will now be given basically pre-approved statements from the government and that's all they're allowed to report on. So, he's now saying the reporters that cover the White House >> can only say what he wants them to say or they will not be allowed in that press pool. Do you think that >> where do you where do you get this information? I've read nothing about that. Well, it's all over the [ __ ] internet. All you got to do is >> I'll Google it later. >> See if you can find it next to a Johnny Carson tweet. >> Um, >> that's not nice, Chad. Be nice to your mom. Come on. >> Be you guys. Like, I I try to be on this podcast as just kind of like, okay, they're saying this crazy [ __ ] They don't know what's going on. They've been completely brainwashed. I try to accept that this week with this Kimmel thing. It's coming off the back of Charlie Kirk, which by the way, they're using Charlie Kirk to do something Charlie Kirk would never stand for. He was, if anything, very open about wanting free speech for everybody, no matter what. That was one of his his biggest talking points. That's now being demolished in his name. They're using him to do all of this. Jimmy Kimmel said this bad thing about Charlie Kirk, which it wasn't even about Charlie Kirk. Now we're yanking him off the air. Charlie Kirk is rolling in his [ __ ] grave right now because of this. >> You know it's terrible when Tucker Carlson is siding with >> the left over this issue. >> He's come out and said like this is full [ __ ] stop. This is scary. >> Ted Cruz, same thing. >> Ted Cruz. >> Yeah. Well, you guys don't like him anyway. >> No. Hang on, though. Do you? You on this very podcast, you've said that you like Tucker Carlson. I remember years ago we were going through >> Cruz, but I don't agree with their side of this at all, this issue. I really don't. >> Do you think that Trump network to get up there and do your thing and especially do comedy, you have to align with what they what they like. You can't just go up there and spew stuff that the network doesn't like or they can pull you in like I need to get back to ratings. I need to get back to ratings. But you're wrong about that, too. >> We might have that many on our podcast following us by now. >> We don't. But mom, you're you're misunderstanding something. >> You're taking a statistic from 10 years ago, what his ratings were 10 years ago and what they are now. >> Any show that has been on the air for 10 years, from uh 2015 to 2025, their ratings are significantly worse now because network TV. Yes, mom. Listen to what I'm telling you. I study this [ __ ] on my other podcasts at like a PhD level. >> Okay, >> network television is in the final phases. Everything is moving to YouTube and streaming. So, when you're looking at those ratings, those are Neielson ratings, an archaic way to uh see how many people are viewing your [ __ ] What you need to be looking at is YouTube. How many views are his clips getting on YouTube? Millions. That's where people are actually watching his [ __ ] Okay, network TV is dying. Um, you can't hold up ratings to mean anything at this point. >> Well, then he needs to go to YouTube instead of network TV. >> I agree. >> That was gonna be my next question. What should his next move be, Haley? >> Uh, I mean, I think at this point, you know, somebody like Jimmy Kimmel can do whatever in the [ __ ] he wants. Uh, he can go to any streaming service, potentially a YouTube channel. He doesn't need the network. >> Yeah, >> Jimmy Kimmel is Jimmy Kimmel. >> I agree. I think you should launch a YouTube immediately >> and shout out ABC. >> Who knows? >> Okay. So, you guys don't think freedom of speech is under attack at all. >> No. >> No, not really. >> Fascinating. All right. >> Well, I mean, I experienced my own um >> Oh, yeah. >> [ __ ] torch and pitchfork in my own town of Flower Mound uh for expressing my freedom of speech. Um, so our podcast about Charlie Kirk, Chad posted it on [ __ ] YouTube. Someone in this Flower Mound group, um, a Facebook group, it's it's known in our community for being like alt-right. They'll silence anybody that has opposing opinions. Um, somebody from that group went to our YouTube pod, took a clip, posted it in the Facebook group, and I mean, just hundreds of comments about how, you know, I should be arrested. Um, the mayor needs to shut me down and run me out of town. They emailed my landlord trying to get my lease null and void. Uh, an entire group of MAGA in my town is actively trying to get me shut down. Uh, I didn't even I didn't even post anything. >> No, not legally. I didn't even post anything on my [ __ ] Hive page. They went and found it, posted it in like a public forum and are now trying to get me uh run out of town and arrested apparently. >> And that is because of what JD Vance said on Charlie Kirk's show the day after he died. He said, "You should turn in your fellow Americans if they're saying anything bad about Charlie Kirk. He literally said it. Now it's happening." >> Haley say bad. >> Called him a piece of [ __ ] I'm sure that was a clip. >> Yeah, I remember all that. Yeah. >> Which by the way, I agree. Yeah, he's racist. He's misogynist. He's a piece of [ __ ] Nobody condones nobody on this pod condones his murder. Obviously, that's not okay. Uh but it doesn't change the fact that he was vile, >> right? And so >> I totally disagree, but go on. >> We know you disagree. So this all happens. JD Vance comes out and tells all the right-wing MAGA followers, turn in your fellow neighbors if they have said anything against our beautiful martyr, Charlie Kirk. That's now happening to Haley, your daughter. >> Dad, how do you feel about that? >> I don't think it's happening to my daughter. >> She just told you it was. >> No, she's not being arrested. She's not being persecuted. >> But they're calling. >> She literally is. >> They're calling. >> They're not getting it. >> Has your Okay. Has Has your >> So you're you're yelling wolf when there ain't no wolf. >> How Okay. What if she would have been arrested? What if it comes to that? How would you feel about that? >> I would have got in my car and brought the cash and we would have got around and you know that, Chad. >> Dad, how would you feel about that? >> You both since day one, if you're even in there for murder, we'll come get you. >> Dad, how would you feel about that? >> No, >> it'd be terrible. >> But would it change your opinion of what is going on with all of this [ __ ] at all? >> It's not going to happen. There's no way they can do that to Haley. >> No. >> What are you talking about? There's no way. They are about to This This is going to be one of our later topics, but let's just get to it. >> Um, let me find it and I will read my little thing here. >> Haley, have your sales gone down or have they gone up? >> No, I So, my my fan base, the people that patronize my business have never been MAGA. Never. Not a single day since we've been open for seven years. It's always been >> Well, then it shouldn't bother you. like a like-minded community, you know, and they always rally when [ __ ] like this happens. And in fact, we find more blue dots, you know, in the sea of red. So, it doesn't affect my business. Um, but I do receive phone call, like phony phone calls. I receive like threats of harm. Um, I mean, they're literally still posting about this on a public forum in my town with hundreds of people like calling for my head. >> Do you turn all those threats in? Can I help? >> I in the past I went to the police and they told me until somebody physically harms you, there's nothing we can do. It's just online bullying. >> Uh so there's nothing I can do until I am physically harmed. >> I hope you're packing. I mean, I have guns. >> Okay. >> This brings us to our next topic this week. Trump used Charlie Kirk's death for political gain when he announced that he is designating Antifa as a major terrorist organization. He also said he will be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. The suspect in Kirk's death, Tyler Robinson, is reported to have been quote deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. According to Utah's governor, Trump and others in his administration are framing Antifa/thera radical left rhetoric as contributing to an escalating imaginary threat. Antifa is not Is he with us? >> Antifa is not >> is not Keep going. >> Antifa Antifa is not a single structured organization with leadership, headquarters, membership roles, etc., but rather a decentralized umbrella term ideology with many disperate participants which even includes Trump himself based on his accusations that Kla Harris is a fascist which he said in his last campaign. So if he's anti-fascist I guess he's Antifa too which uh he stands against her being a fascist. So far there is no publicly confirmed direct link between the person who shot Charlie Kirk and any Antifa organizations or people. Mom, are you a fascist? >> I don't think so. >> Are you against fascism? >> I would say yes. >> Then you're Antifa. Dad, are you a fascist? >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. >> No. >> Are you against fascism? >> I'm a Republican. >> Are you against fascism? >> No. I'm for Republican. Are you against fascism like everybody who fought in World War II was? >> Everybody who fought in World War II was not against fascism. >> That's literally what we were fighting against. >> You're confusing me. >> Huh? Do you think Hitler was a fascist? >> Google Google the definition of >> Wait a minute. >> Wait a minute. You don't think Hitler was a fascist? >> No. >> How about Mussolini? >> No. >> Okay. Here's what I thought. >> You literally made the the first fashist party. Okay. >> Wait a minute. Oh, wait a minute. Here. When you said Antifa. >> Yeah. >> That is the word that I first heard summer of love. Um, you know what year was that? The summer of love. the the New York Post said that George Soros's money called the Open Society Foundation that they use that money to pay for student activists. That's what I thought Antifa was >> people that >> Antifa is a philosophy >> against a look >> something that they want to riot against. >> There is a group >> there's no group. >> It's not a [ __ ] organization. Antifa simply means that you are anti-fascism. It's like a movement. It's an ideology. There is no [ __ ] group. So, you can't characterize an ideology as a [ __ ] terrorist organization. It's just people who are anti-fascism. >> They really don't say really what what they support, but what they don't support. >> It's the name. It's they don't want a fascist leader in this country. We now have one who is saying if you are anti-fascist >> but they're more right. >> Listen to me right. >> Listen to what I'm saying. >> I am listening. >> Donald Trump >> is saying if you are anti-fascist you are now a terrorist organization. I will be able to arrest you at will. That makes him a fascist. >> If he's arresting people who are against fascism that's because he's a fascist. You understand this right? And if that happen, if they start enforcing this, they can arrest [ __ ] anyone off the street, >> they can watch our podcast and come after Chad and come after me. >> You guys keep saying that. I don't >> I don't see it. >> I don't see it yet. >> So, let me explain how it works. He's going to say, >> "So, then let's stop the podcast if we're all afraid we're going to get arrested." >> That's the whole point idea. >> He's trying to get things like this that are speaking against this [ __ ] He's trying to get these things to stop. That's why Kimmel got yanked off the air. That's why he's coming after uh the guys at NBC, Fallon and and Meyers. It's it's all happening. This is all part of a playbook. It's what Hitler did. He is doing it in the exact same order. Steven Miller is the guy behind all of this. He's the one pulling all the strings. >> 25. The more the more that your side says Trump is Hitler and all of that, it just stirs up the left to go after him. >> He needs to be gone after. This has to stop or we're going to be living in [ __ ] Nazi Germany. We're we're two steps away from it. >> He's already got US milit just just take in take this into account right now where we are >> in the political landscape of America. You have a president who has been convicted of 34 felonies, >> who has been convicted of >> Don't roll your [ __ ] eyes and say, "Oh, here we go. Listen to what I'm saying. Listen to me. >> I'm listening. >> Our president has been convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault. He has done open corruption." We are just getting information. This was going to be another one of my topics. We just got information today. Tom Hman, his borders are the guy who used to be the head of ICE, literally took a bag of $50,000 from undercover FBI agents uh to we'll get to it. It's the most corrupt administration we've ever had in the history of this country. >> He now has United States military walking the streets with machine guns of US cities. He is kidnapping people without warrants, without due process, using guys who are wearing masks to do it. And now he's just saying, "Take that guy off the air." Reporters, you can only report what I say is true. That's all happened now. We're at that point. >> To me, he's cleaning up the cities that are in turmoil >> that were there during the Biden administration. They did nothing. >> That's what I see. I live in reality and we have all just updated our passports >> and I don't >> we have all just gotten our passports updated so we're ready to go >> and we are researching countries that we might be able to move to in the next couple years. >> Just leave us then. >> I don't I don't it isn't it isn't about you and I know you can never understand that but I have kids who may want to have kids who want to live a life >> I can't do that here. I give you permission. Go tomorrow. If you really want to go, go tomorrow. >> I am your mother. >> Here's the deal. I always said if I saw you guys take a wrong turn, even as you were older, or or say something that I didn't believe in, I would question it. I'd try to talk to you about it until I was six foot under. I can't do it anymore. It's getting so out of whack. Your views are not my views anymore. It's getting way too hard. It's getting way too hard. >> South Carolina proposed a bill to put women in [ __ ] prison and try them for murder for having abortions. In the state of Texas, you cannot have abortions no matter what. >> That is dangerous. >> If you need an abortion, I hope you would never need one or the girls. >> I know. >> It's not just about us. It's not just about the people sitting on this podcast. Think of people who do need to get them that are not us immediately. >> You're saying it's getting too hard, Mom, to listen to our answer is to get out states, then you need to go. >> Listen, the Department of Education is aligning with all of these Christian organizations that have to do with Project 2025, including Turning Point. They want to turn our public education system into a religious education system. I can't have if my kids want to have kids. We're not going to [ __ ] do that. >> But your kids I believe in the separation of church and state. I believe in freedom of speech. >> I believe in the Constitution schools. You only have one left in public schools and she's almost out. >> You're not hearing me. My kids are kids. But what if they want to have kids one day? I don't want to [ __ ] be here in this country. I don't want them raising children in this country. Just come kiss dad and I goodbye and go if you got to go. >> Don't do the guilt as a weapon thing. This is insane. >> It's not guilt. If she wants to go, she needs to go. >> It's just not able to survive. >> But you guys take this as some kind of personal attack. It has nothing to do with you. >> Well, you don't think that's personal? >> No. >> Why don't Why can't we all build a bunker and live together? She's fleeing. She doesn't give a [ __ ] >> Wait a minute. Where's the bunker? bad. >> No, that's where you're wrong. I do give a [ __ ] I want my kids to have a fighting chance. >> I can't come with you. >> And I have a horse and I'm not going to take a horse overseas. I will not leave Shiny. >> So, you're choosing the horse over Haley. >> I'm not leaving. >> Start crying and guilting her immediately about that. Please. >> I'm not guilting Haley. If you really feel that way, come tell us goodbye and go do it tomorrow. >> Why do you do that? Like, why are >> I'm not guilting you. Yes, you are. >> Yeah, you are. >> Am I guilty? >> You started doing tear play. What you did on this very podcast is what we call on my other podcast, Game of Roses, tear play. It is when you start crying to make the other person think that whatever you're saying or doing is very for the right reasons. And you literally just did it. >> What am I supposed to do as a mother? Sit here and go, "Oh, Haley, okay, do whatever you want. >> I'll tell you what you're supposed to do. Fine." Yeah. You know, you know, it used to be when elders in the family got old, they they would circle around the elders and keep care of them just the way other um I'm not going to get into that. But anyway, that's no longer here. I get that. Dad and I have friends here. We'll be fine. Haley, if you got to go, go. Chad, you too. Both of y'all. >> I'm not I'm going down with this [ __ ] I'm taking out as many people as I can and I'm I will [ __ ] go down with this [ __ ] cuz I love Los Angeles. I love California. >> If it was just me, >> he's like finally >> if it was just me, it wouldn't matter as much. But I have kids and watching and watching what is happening in this country is [ __ ] terrifying. >> Okay. I I don't >> You asked what you should be doing as a parent when she says stuff like this. What you should be doing is listening to what we're saying. >> I am listening. >> You're not. This is a very it's a it's a a thing that I think is is one of the major problems in this country. It's kind of why we started this podcast. There is no real conversation. Anytime I'm like, "Okay, this happened." You literally on this very podcast, you rolled your [ __ ] eyes and said, "Here we go." You dismiss whatever we're saying before we even say it. >> Dad does. Dad's literally [ __ ] asleep for this whole podcast. >> Maybe I'm a bad guest. Maybe >> I'm not asleep. >> I'm not saying you're a bad guest. >> You have to stop moving the camera. That's going to be a nightmare to edit. Please don't move it. Put it somewhere. Whatever shot you want to make. >> Dad sleeping and me together. Is that what you want right there? >> That's fine. Yes. Just leave the camera. Don't leave. Do do you guys actually believe we're going to have a fair election when his term is over? Do you actually think that's going to happen? That we will be able to nominate a new president? >> Yes. >> Yes. You believe in fair elections now? >> I will if we keep going the way we are. >> I will if it's a in-person ballot, which it should be. Everybody has to go in person with ID. >> I think he's drumming up this. You saw the text messages that he threw out today or maybe it was yesterday about how basically he's going to go to war with Afghanistan. >> Yes. >> You saw this? >> Yes, I saw some. >> This is the president who was anti-war. I'm going to bring peace. I do so many peace in so many countries. Now, basically saying, I'm going to go to war with >> I want that air base back, you dummy. >> Why? >> So we can defend oursel against >> China. >> China. >> Okay. Okay. Um >> he's he's doing it so that we can be in war during the election and then he will say we don't have to have an election because we're in war. >> No, you know what? We >> This is authoritarian 101. >> Whether it's fair whether it's going to be fair or not, it's going to be fair because we're going to have more Republican supporters. Democrats are leaving left and right to come to the Republican side now over Charlie Kirk's murder and over terrible things that Democrats said. Where are you getting that idea? Where are you getting that idea? >> All kinds of things. I've been reading online. >> Newsmax mainly. >> No, not new. I haven't seen it on Newsmax. I've been reading other things. >> Okay, that's definitely not happening. Let's move on to speaking of wars and the uh commander-in-chief who brings so much peace. >> Just dismiss that. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Dismiss what? Well, it's not true. >> It's not real. >> What is true? >> Go ahead. Let him talk. >> Okay. >> You're you're the one who's lying. It's true. >> All right. >> Well, this week, Trump revealed a little something about his followers. Mom and dad, that's you. We're going to play a clip. Here's Trump. >> Smart people don't like me, you know, and they don't like what we talk about. >> There you go. That's Trump saying, "Smart people don't like me. Therefore, mom and dad, you are dumb people in the eyes of Trump." >> Did you hear those people around him? They were all laughing. That was a joke. and see Democrats like Jimmy Kimmel just like Jimmy Kimmel jokes. Trump is not >> We can't take jokes. You yanked Jimmy Kimmel off the [ __ ] air for a joke. We can't take jokes. >> Is not paid by a network to be a comedian, is he? >> He's paid by us to be the [ __ ] president. >> Actually, actually, he's not being paid. He gives his money. >> Yeah, he gives it away. >> No, he doesn't. His worth has like tripled since he took office. No, he's not. >> Hang on. We're getting way off topic. We're getting way off topic. >> Oh, yeah. We're getting there. We're getting way off topic. >> Dad, are you a smart person? >> [ __ ] yeah. I'm smart. >> Then you don't like Trump per his own words. Mom, are you a smart person? >> FS. You've seen well you've seen the clip where he was younger you know it was like in the early 90s or something and they were asking him because he was like a big business mogul you know and at the forefront and he was interviewed by like a Barbara Walters or something and he literally said if I ever ran for president I'd run Republican because they're all [ __ ] stupid. >> Yeah. Um All right. Well, do you think Trump is smart? >> Yes. >> Let's play a clip. I'm very disappointed in the fact that that one's not settled. To think that we settled uh Abberaijan and Albania as an example. It was going on for years. >> Okay. So, Abberaijan is not a country. That's a gibberish word he made up. And he believes I'm going to show you this map. He believes that he settled a war between Abberaijan, I think he means Azerbaijan and Albania. As you can see, there's some distance between those countries. The real uh war that he settled was between Azerbaijon and Armenia. >> Armenia. >> So, he's at a public address. This is in front of the world. >> Mispronouncing. He got fouled up. You don't think a president should know the wars he settled with what countries? >> You would crucify Joe Biden if he did that publicly. >> Fact that that one's not settled. To think that we settled uh Abberan. >> Abber. >> This man is not a smart man. >> Okay, >> you have to admit this. How can you watch what I just played you and think he's still smart? >> Up. My lord. Oh my lord. >> But when Joe Biden was doing this very same thing, you weren't just saying he got fouled up. >> Joe Biden was getting fouled up where to put one foot in front of the other and get off his stage and talking about dead people that weren't there. That's what Joe Biden was about. >> Okay, let's move on to the DOJ this week deleting a domestic terror report. This week, the DOJ deleted a report from its website called what NIJJ research tells us about domestic ter terrorism published by the National Institute of Justice, part of the DOJ. The report concluded that since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists. That includes 227 events by farright extremists, causing over 520 deaths. In contrast, far-left extremists committed 42 attacks, causing about 78 deaths. The study noted that nationalist white supremacist violent extremist violent extremism has increased in the US and that far-right attacks continue to outpace all other forms of domestic ideological violence. Mom, why do you think they took this study down? >> I have I don't know. I never saw this study. I I did go to the page. It's not there. I was going to read about it. It's not there. But when when you first had that down as a topic, I thought you were talking about this that the DOJ talked about the terror report that our United States right now is uh substantial, which means inside the United States, an attack is very likely and they're talking about major big cities. So Chad, please be careful. Haley, please be careful. That's what I thought you were talking about. But even if one of those attacks happens at this point, I'm not sure I would believe it's real. >> Correct. They're curating. >> They are curating what you see. They are eliminating >> factual information that implicates the right side being violent. They want you to believe that it's like transgender people and the left-leaning people. There are statistics to prove otherwise. >> I didn't. >> So, they're deleting it. >> Okay. I didn't see it. I tried to find it. I couldn't find it. So, there you go. >> Why do you think they took it down, Mom? >> Uh because it probably what? Maybe they were wrong in the statistics they had or maybe it did show them in a bad way, >> right? No, you're getting it. You're getting it. You're getting it. They took it down because it shows them in a bad way. You're right. I need you to read it. the truth, the data >> that this report has in it >> pretty much lays out that the the worst violence is coming from far right extremists. >> But they can't have that narrative. >> I would have to see those statistics because I don't agree with that. >> Well, but now you can't, can you? Because no [ __ ] exists anymore. Unless Chad can pull them out somewhere. >> It probably is somewhere on the internet, but um Okay. >> It's the same reason that you've not seen the Epstein files. Same [ __ ] Jimmy Kimmel. >> Yeah, >> they took Jimmy Kimmel off the air because he says negative [ __ ] about Trump. He makes fun of him. And Trump is a thin skinned, whiny little baby. >> I totally disagree >> with the reason that they pulled him off the air. >> I mean, I played all those clips for you. I don't know how you can disagree with it >> because it's the network. He didn't align with what the networks wanted him. >> We have eight minutes and we have three topics. I have Tom Hman accepting a $50,000 bribe and then the DOJ just saying, "Ah, [ __ ] it. We're not gonna investigate that." >> I have the Mississippi hangings. >> I want to get to the text messages. >> Tyler Robinson's text messages, those came out this week. This may be our last thing. But that Tom Hman thing is going to get it'll be the biggest news this week for sure. Tomorrow it's going to be everywhere. >> Why are two people being hung from a tree not [ __ ] on the forefront of the news? Jesus Christ. Well, we can talk about we have eight minutes here and mom has made it very clear we can't go a second over I want to save that one for next week too because I there's not a lot of information about it. There's some and it's out but >> the biggest one is this. There is a it was a black college kid who they found hanging in a tree >> and a white homeless man. >> They lied to family. >> Yeah. The cops told his family they found him in his dorm. >> I can't find anything about that. I found at first it said uh broken legs and they said no and he hung himself that it was just complete suicide. >> Suicide they said yes. >> I can't find any more information that states he might have been beat up before someone >> because they're controlling the information you get just like Haley said. >> That can be our number one for next week. I do want to talk about that. Okay. Well, Colin Kaepernick is paying for a [ __ ] autopsy for this family. So hopefully they get the real answers to this because we all I think know what [ __ ] transpired. >> It's what you think. You don't know. >> You weren't. >> I'm sorry. A a black college student is not going to [ __ ] hang themselves from a tree >> in Mississippi. And what about the white man too that they found a homeless guy? >> He flunk a homeless man. >> Maybe he had mental issues and failed a test or something. >> Jesus Christ. >> That was it. He failed the test. So did the homeless guy. He failed his his final in chemistry. >> Like I said, not enough information. We shouldn't talk about it till next week. >> All right, fine. Tyler Robinson text messages. That Tom Hman thing, though, we are going to be talking about it. He literally took a $50,000 cash bribe from undercover FBI agents. They were opening a whole case against him and then Trump wins and is like, "Nope, don't investigate that." >> You don't see how crooked that [ __ ] is? >> If Trump did that, that is crooked. But I have seen nothing in the news about that. I have a [ __ ] Google. >> It just is breaking today. >> Oh, okay. I'll Google it when we get done. >> What's your goddamn goooo? >> Here we go. Tyler Robinson text messages this week. Transcripts of Charlie Kirk's murder suspect Tyler Robinson's alleged text messages to his roommate and a secret note left under his keyboard came under scrutiny from all sides for seeming fake. I'm going to read you some of these messages from Tyler Robinson. Drop what you are doing. Look under my keyboard. Roommate looks under the keyboard and sees a note that allegedly read, "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it." Roommate: What? You're joking, right? Robinson, I'm still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orum for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. You weren't the one who did it, right? I am. I'm sorry. I thought they caught the person. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering. Why? Why did I do it? Yeah, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. The explicit confession, the stilted language, and the convenience of the message have a lot of people questioning if any of it's real. Even former Trump adviser Steve Bannon said, "I'm particularly not buying those text messages. It just seems too stilted, too much like a script. Actually, like a bad script." >> Yeah. >> Mom, are these Do you believe these text messages are real? >> At first, when I read them, I thought maybe, but now too many people are coming out saying, "No, they're not buying it." Michael Savage, who I love, he's like, "Nope, something's not right here." >> Mind you, this is like a 22year-old talking like it's Bram Stoker's Dracula. Okay. >> Right. Right. >> Is like a 22year-old using punctuation and like >> Nathaniel Hawthorne >> I'm here yet still like are you [ __ ] me right now trapped twixed building and vehicle. Huh? >> I never thought he acted alone. No one's brought up the airplane that was uh you know a ways away that then did take off and came and then came back an hour later with no one aboard but someone got in it and left. At first they said these texts, you know, they're trying to say, "Well, he was MAGA." Then they're trying to say, "No, he's left." Then they say, "Who cares?" Then they said, "He did it out of love." Have you seen Montel Williams stating, "Oh, these texts are out of love for each other." What the >> the craziest part of the text to me, >> it's out of love. That >> the part that 100% to me is like this is fake is they grabbed some old crazy dude that interrogated someone in similar clothing. H he's sending this as he's fleeing the scene. How would he know that at all? There's no way he could. >> The the part that I do believe is that he was a man and he was living with a man transitioning to be a woman. I do believe that. >> I don't know. I don't know if that's accurate or not. >> I don't know if that's true. >> Which makes him gay. >> And then >> why does that make him gay? >> And and even if he is, who gives a [ __ ] >> Okay. It's a reason Charlie Kirk really got killed >> because Charlie Kirk said a man cannot be a woman. >> Trans people don't like that. >> They were the trans things on the bullet. >> Um no trans things on any of the bullets. There were >> that's inaccurate. >> Furry things. The things about furry how >> those are memes. That's just internet video game meme culture. What you're saying, Mom, is a lie. You're lying. >> What was on the bullets? Tell me. >> There was a thing about furry culture. There was a culture direction pad combination that is used to do a move in Hill divers too, >> which the shooter was in a group online with the furry thing, right? >> No. Do you have that information? >> Uh, yes, I do. It was by the FBI that I read it. >> Oh, well then it must be sexual interest and arousal with furry animals is what just lies. Well, you just [ __ ] told us how you're wearing a new perfume that makes the horse lick you. >> You're a [ __ ] furry. >> Oh my goodness. Anyway, >> ruined my day. I'm done. >> I've ruined your day. Did you? Or did you not tell us? You're using a perfume that makes your horse sexually attracted to you. >> I said the only one that liked it was Shiny. >> Uhhuh. >> You've ruined >> And he said you said he was licking and sniffing on. >> Why are you being so mean to me? I don't understand. >> I'm being mean to you. I'm making jokes, mom. You can't take a joke. Just like DJ, >> your network needs to pull your ass for sure. >> We ain't on a network. >> Yeah. >> Let's go back to the shooter. There is no proof that this shooter had a transgender roommate. None. >> Oh, we don't have we don't have concrete evidence of a name, a roommate. There's no photo. First of all, they had access to this motherfucker's phone cuz we have this text message thread, >> but we don't see but there's no photos of the shooter and his significant other >> watching the news. >> There's no photo on this motherfucker's phone of him and his girlfriend. None. >> My favorite YouTuber of all time said the reason Charlie Kirk got killed was because he had stated a man cannot become a woman. I never said that. >> No. Oh, you not you. It's some >> I'm not your favorite YouTuber. >> Well, I mean, >> now you've ruined my day. >> You're just speculating. You're speculating. We don't know why he was shot. >> That's what I think and that's what he thought. And he's very good friends with him. So, there you go. >> Okay. Okay. >> Well, that's that's all you need. >> Okay. >> Oh god, we had a heated one. We didn't even have time for the Yeah. Dad, you missed it all. >> It's over. He had a night. Don't Don't trash him. It was my fault. I gave him the B12 at about nine o'clock. >> Pumped him up till about 4 a.m. >> Jack his ass right before this pod. >> Stop moving the camera. >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. All right. I love you all. I got to go. >> Thank you everyone for joining us. We will be back next week. I can guarantee you we're going to be talking about this Tom Hman thing. He essentially got caught in an undercover FBI sting accepting a $50,000 bribe for political favor. Um and now and the the Trump FBI basically just said, "Nah, we're not going to investigate that." He was under investigation during Biden. Then as soon as Trump goes into office, that goes away. He's going to have to uh resign, I think, very soon. >> We we are talking about that next week. Is that correct? >> That is so >> zip it. Maybe. I mean, Jesus, every other [ __ ] day [ __ ] pops off. So, we don't have time. >> We got We got some Jenzers watching us. So, shout out to McCartney. >> Um, I've got some rodeo girls I need to say real quick to uh Hudson Sarah, go get them. They're in a rodeo today. Good luck. >> I love you, Haley. Please don't move. I love you, Chad. Please don't go down in LA. I love you, Bob. Wake up. We're gonna figure this out. >> Wake up, Haley. I love you. Uh, I just wanted to real quick at the end here, read what you said, as soon as you said in our little group um text that all this [ __ ] was happening. I was like, "Oh my god, I'm so sorry. If you want me to take down any posts or anything, let me know." And you said, "I do not. There are no legal grounds for any of it, so I'm not really worried. I guess if I get arrested, that mugshot tea is going to me some money. >> I just I love you for your attitude about all this [ __ ] and how you just are unrelenting. you will not back down from this. Uh, we got I ain't doing it either. >> We got the cash. We'll come get you. >> Yeah, [ __ ] it. I'm like, you know what? It is >> It is worth it to me. I I believe in free speech. I believe in our constitutional rights, and I will [ __ ] go down for it. So, if it means they arrest me, [ __ ] I guess if I'm going to Guantanamo, I'm going to learn how to wrestle alligators. Like, I will not stop. If you're [ __ ] and you mom, you are like maybe we shouldn't talk about this. [ __ ] that. >> First, first of all, you're [ __ ] up. You don't go to >> Guantan. >> Alligator Alcatraz. I'm sorry. >> Oh, Dad. Dad woke up for that. >> He woke up. Yes. Alligator. [Laughter] >> Everybody, stop moving the camera. God. >> If if you would get kicked out of your tenant agreement, I don't see how they can do it to you, but if they go back to the way you started, Haley, you had those cakes in the trunk of a car. You delivered them. You made it back then, you can make it now. >> Yeah. >> They they can't shut me up. There's nothing that can transpire that will make me be quiet. >> Same. >> I I just won't. >> No. And that is, you know, strangely like that has become a part of this show too. It started out as just kind of political conversation, but now that free speech is literally under attack, what we are doing to some degree is uh is protest. >> You can't see your finger here. He's like, >> "Cool." Um, all right, Mom. I love you. Hope I didn't really ruin your day. I hope Shiny loves your new perfume. I hope you wear it in all the the right places that he likes. I will tell you, you got it. Back. Say I'm not one of those people. You better take it back. >> But you are one of those people. You open this very show with a tale about how your horse is sexually attracted to you because of your new >> turn everything. Liberals can turn anything good into something bad. Okay. But did you buy that because you wanted to smell like Rihanna? >> No. No. I just wanted to smell it because they said it was it smelled good. >> Well, that's not her perfume. her perfume. I forget what it is. I'll have to look and send it to you. But it costs like $300 bottle. Smells like marshmallows and vanilla. >> Oh, yeah. That's another dupe from that Oarta or Carti perfume people that I do want to buy that one, too. >> All right, Dad. I I love you as well. Even though you were literally asleep for this entire episode, I thank you for sitting in the chair nonetheless. >> Raw raw. It's your turn. >> Oh, I love everybody. All right. >> All right. I love you, Mom. I love you, Dad. I love you, Chad. See you next week. [Music] Okay.