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in the aftermath of the 2024 election America is even more divided than before half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it as America inches toward the brink of authoritarian Rule now more than ever we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culture with me is my sister Haley Pope and my parents Bob and Mary Lou of course we are now in the aftermath of Trump's stunning Victory a historic victory in terms of the scope and breadth of it we're going to get into all of that of course uh do you have any diddies mom or dad any rants um no you know I do okay but should we do my other thing at the end then what I have did you not see my text did you just send it I didn't see and we're all I only have 57% on my iPad so if we go black you'll know why but I think that that should uh okay I have like several diddies but I have the starting of a rap and I don't think it's going to get any better so I think maybe I should play it do you have music with it yes well you have to send it to me first why so that I can play it in the show I've got it right here okay I have it okay you want are we gonna be able to hear it we can give it a try we should all right go for it go for it with your WP this is a celebratory WAP I assume um kind of kind of not okay there we go the greatest election of our time don't call me crazy if you are a friend of mine Haley ain't leaving neither am I Trump won this the election so Harris bye-bye big things are coming I can't wait to see the golden years will be on us you and me better economy Better Health Care let's do this together I think we can for trumpy Bear illegals now nowh to hide you need to get out of her here you have some time there will be changes along this path we can do this together just ask okay that's all I got I didn't have a lot of time to prepare as you can tell I don't want to make this silly I want to make this to tell Chad and Haley it's going to be okay it really is going to be okay just give this time and then if you see things you don't like make changes the right way through our government through through power through making new laws do it that way it's going to be okay okay Mom thank you I like the sentiment you're trying to [ __ ] in what kind of Insane Clown posy [ __ ] riff you have in the background where the hell did you get that I just go find one on YouTube you you have to email that to me so that I can actually play it in the show okay um now it's interesting in the end you say if you don't like things make changes through the law do it through the government and yet for the past two years on this very podcast you and Dad have uh been advocating for murder in the streets because things didn't go your way so now you want the opposite to be true for us though we don't get to say now the Metal's gonna hit the meat yeah except you guys are all talk okay the Metal's not gonna hit the meat that's not the message you're all gonna crawl in your little hole and be quiet that's not the message we'll get to who's crawled into a hole and is now quiet Donald Trump no he hasn't we'll get to that we'll get to all these things all right thank you for the message Mom that was I just didn't have a lot of time and people were asking me for it so there you go I have quick goodies a robotic dog is patrolling Trump's Mar Lago have you seen that for security reasons oh no Chad Haley I would like one for my birthday please they R from, 1500 all the way up to $250,000 okay [ __ ] what you got more money than me the Harris campaign reported they are $20 million in debt yet okay she had raised over 1 billion for her campaign as of October 16th her campaign still had 118 million in the account a lot of people want an audit where did that money go a FEMA official told uh and she was the head of this one region where the hurricane H hit Melton hit she told the workers to avoid any homes with with Trump signs out front okay she's in trouble she was released of Duties and fired she needs to be in jail okay tomorrow is November 11th it's Veterans Day we need to Salute Your dad your two Grandpa and two uncles salute and a lot of other people okay time for Obama to leave DC he's been there since he was no longer president why is he still there he needs to take those ear pie you get to live wher you want to live in America he's the only president in the history of the United States at a state he also has other houses I get that but he's always there he needs to take the earpieces get out of town she no longer needs him Michael Jackson I do believe could still be alive I've been I've been watching those at night I've been watching a lot of things on Tik Tok I think he's alive Obama needs to leave Washington DC Michael Jackson is still alive I do believe these are my kitties hey take them or leave them okay last well we're taking them all right I think there that me uh Melania could have a body double I've been watching a lot of that on yeah she's in a hole somewhere or at the very least is like I don't do public appearances for less than a million dollars now I I do think she might have a body dou too age I think so too that that video of her in quotes in the sunglasses waving yeah that's not her that ain't her I agree that ain't her does that all the time body love okay now let's move on we're going to get into the meat of this obviously we are we are in the Wake literally the week of this unprecedented election but we do have a question it is a video question are you ready oh a video question yes yeah I can't show you the video but you'll hear the audio okay ready Hi culton family we are here from Cleveland outside of the lovely accepting Hive Bakery we just saw the beautiful Haley and we have a question where are you moving and will you please take us with you okay so that's the video is these three women standing outside your bakery Haley hi Bakery they're asking where are we going to move Haley where you going so needer reaction we started looking at other countries and what it takes to get into them so we have started the process if we need to move yeah um it's it's difficult it's not an easy process but we will do it if we have to uh ideally I'll be able to stay in the country if that's true we have to move out of Texas which is something we wanted to do anyway so we'll have to go to a blue state California got open arms for you yeah California Colorado Washington uh some of this [ __ ] on the East Coast I mean we've always wanted to move out of Texas so that is inevitable it's just a matter of like how fast do we have to and can we wait you know however many years like I don't know what's going to transpire yeah we're going to get into that a little bit later I have a topic that I want to discuss which is what are the signs like what will throw the switch for you be like oh [ __ ] this is happening um California for what it's worth Gavin Newsome our governor has already come out and basically said he's rallying the lawyers to make sure that legally California is going to protect itself against whatever Trump might try to do federally so I do think Trump is not going to like Gavin Newsome very much and it's going to be a very public back and forth between California government and Trump over the it's gonna be very simple California is gonna lose all their Federal funding and new will be on his knees begging for mercy from Trump we see California controls most of the country's food no you're wrong oh okay it controls most of the country's fruit okay well there you have it uh I'm not moving anywhere I'm staying in La people eat in this country yeah come from the belt okay okay I'm gonna stay in California and see what happens Mom and Dad are you moving hell no in my rap it was Haley ain't moving and neither am I um Trump won the election so Harris bye-bye I didn't really answer the question if we're moving out of the country we've started looking at Vancouver and Scotland if we are staying in the country we're gonna move either Pacific Northwest or east coast nice co me and you asked me to move with you I'll go to no none of those places for sure I can't go to Scotland because shiny heiney can't go there I will not take him over the ocean so that's my mom's horse all right yeah let's get into this show shall we our first topic is how have your weeks been and I wanted to open this topic by telling you what happened to me literally the morning after the election as many of us do I wake up I look at my phone I go to Instagram and I see two posts literally on top of each other those are the first two things I see one is from Haley one is from you Mom literally back to back this is what I scroll through the first picture I see is Haley from the neck down in her Baker's apron dusted with flow holding a whisk towel over the shoulder and I'm going to read this entire thing that you wrote here Haley if you're cool with it the caption reads I honestly don't want to get up and go to work today I have too much on my mind to think about [ __ ] cookies but alas we'll be there I'm embarrassed at this country I'm embarrassed at this country I live in Americans voted in a criminal with the most racist misogynistic xenophobic campaign to date over for a woman it was proven last night just how depraved our country is I fear for my daughters for my queer friends for people of color for all of us including those who voted for Trump they have no idea what's coming and it's not just coming for us who voted blue it's coming for every one of their children for every one of their wives daughters sisters unfortunately we're all going to feel this mistake for decades with a red Senate and a fixed Supreme Court I fear the worst this feels different than 2016 more dread more fear we now have to brace ourselves for what comes next it will be the darkest hour for this country democracy is lost this isn't the America I want to live in then the very next post immediately under it mom was from you it is a uh kind of deep fried meme super neon colors a horse running through a pasture five American flag emojis it says let the Golden Age begin and Travis trit song is playing under it's a great day to be alive and you have captioned it only #g great day # USA # goldenage # 47 # horse # horses # USA hashtag now F you Chad to say the difference between these was clearly Stark and I thought that it painted a very good picture just in a a little snapshot of our family exactly what is happening in this country right now there are many people who are more scared than they've ever been for where this governmental system is going and then there are people on the other side that are like the horses are running free it's a great day to be alive one of those two sides must be wrong they cannot both be right and the next four years is going to Bear out to show us which of those is true um okay it what what's going on there Dad I'm pointing at who's wrong he's trying to point at you too that you're wrong and he doesn't even know how to do it so stop it all right well I just wanted to ask you Haley about this post um you say you have more dread more fear now than you did in 2016 I can't say you there you are I I don't feel that way but please explain that to me because I do think it's at this point anybody who's listened to the show and agrees with us is curious I think about like how are we going to deal with this psychologically emotionally can I say one more thing then haly can answer that go ahead the part where Haley said all of her words what she was saying she said that um how did it how what was the statement that a woman lost it was that yeah he had beat a woman a criminal with the most racist misogynistic xenophobic campaign to date won over a woman over a woman yeah why one over a woman the better candidate is the people you picked whether it's man woman or not no itre haly about a woman or a man that is all it's about if you look we'll just get into this it bleeds kind of right into the next uh topic the numbers let haly answer that question sorry go ahead Hy um I mean I think what's different this time around is that you know just acknowledging that it wasn't just MAA that voted for Donald Trump so there's a very large part of this population that voted for him and I find that disgusting and so kind of recognizing that this is now the country that we live in I had hope going into this election like surely enough people are smart enough to see through his [ __ ] do your research and [ __ ] know what you're going into and it's very clear how stupid America is it's very clear how hateful America is because you have to be a complete [ __ ] idiot or MAA which is also complete [ __ ] idiots to vote for Donald Trump thanks now no Mom Mom you got got no legs to stand on dad calls us [ __ ] idiots every show literally says listen go for it and you keep Pro and you keep proving the idea that you know not only is our entire government against people like me so is more than half of the country they don't want us here they don't want to see us here there's uh a fear behind I mean I I started receiving phone calls at 10:00 a.m. when we opened the day after election from Maga in my community harassing me I had to call the police um and it ensued all week long you [ __ ] won and you're still harassing so winners yeah and and you know I had people come in literally crying in [ __ ] tears I'm afraid for my black son I'm afraid for my queer daughter there is a a fear that that everyone feels now that didn't exist in 2016 and it's because we have a red Senate a red house a red Supreme Court [ __ ] Donald Trump he's hiring people like [ __ ] Elon Musk like the rich get richer you're just going to take it all and people are so [ __ ] stupid they don't see it yeah you know they think that the economy is going to get better but he's been touting tariffs for like the last three months I don't think they understand like they're so [ __ ] dumb they don't get what's about to happen well why is this stock market soaring in the first time in a long long time stocks going up well stock market has steadily been increasing and showing record gains for the past couple of months even and it's by the way this is all under bik that's be that's because the stock market knew what was coming sure okay so like but wait we're also seeing [ __ ] like project 2025 is [ __ ] real in Oklahoma somebody messaged me and said in Oklahoma like their superintendent or whatever who's like xenophobic he's like [ __ ] all the [ __ ] implementing Bibles in public schools like effective almost iMed no he's not she showed us the [ __ ] emails to parents of schools Donald Trump knows of it but he says he has nothing to do with it I've read that over and over and over it is effectively happening it's happening in Texas voucher programs now for public school women are dying on the [ __ ] table because they can't get life-saving abortions it is happening right [ __ ] now in my state I Googled whether that little Elementary that I taught out was going to be closed you want me to pull it up you want me to pull it up absolutely no the actual Elementary School just posted two days ago please [ __ ] save us we're having a large meeting and get together at town hall because we don't want to shut next year you're wrong you know you know what I think parents are afraid of getting their children's information pushed down their throat that they don't want so they're taking them out of school and the numbers are going down they're getting brainwashed they don't want that's not real going on you guys just make [ __ ] up Donald you're just like Donald Trump you make [ __ ] up and you just keep talking oh my god let's move into the numbers of this election now Trump got fewer votes than he got in 2020 by three million roughly you know why a lot of people didn't vote this year but guess what he won every swing state you know what I'm getting to it okay there aren't enough there aren't enough votes to put Joe Biden in the White House over the last four years are you having trouble trouble talking with your breath no one one every swing state but in some of those swing States they literally Ved abortion in their state constition does vot right there were 160 million votes the last election there about 140 or 50 this time where do all those votes go what does sense they exist Joe Biden is not the president huh those V were never there you guys can't even do [ __ ] simple math what doesn't make sense that they codified Democratic policies in their state constitutions how does that make sense you don't even know how to add stop and you're call to that you don't even know how to add you're just going to insult us for what reason yeah you don't know how to you don't know how started this show insulting us again you do not know how to add you never have okay somebody said this is gonna happen they said they would rather stop this show than go on just fighting with each other we don't have to fight you guys are the ones fighting oh we are yeah let's just be quiet and let them talk no you I don't want you to be quiet the whole point of this show is for two within a family people that are completely divided by ideology how about you all admit you were wrong and that the the country's wrong about the election obviously we were our hopes for the election did not happen well just just [ __ ] admit it I just did okay are you satisfied sure now keep blowing smoke up everybody's ass I opened this entire show by saying Donald Trump won an unprecedented Victory do you acknowledge that that is true that I said that yes you're you're angry that I'm not admitting this but that's literally what the title of this episode is Trump wins you start right then you start right back up with okay first of all explain this to me yeah this is why I think you cannot add okay there were there approximately 150 million votes cast in this election that when there were 160 million votes yeah when Biden won the elction 180 I thought no it's 80 and 80 80 and 80 million okay where the other 10 million votes they didn't exist they never they didn't vote they're just people that didn't vote because they were turned off by all not true that's not true how many people do you think are in America they're about 320 million so the votes do exist well I I say million they're actually 340 million when you count the 20 million illegals got here let let me get into the numbers since you're talking about math and the numbers so this election Donald Trump got 71 talk well he didn't let me finish there are 320 million total people in this country half of them aren't of voting age all right so 150 million is the max you can have in an election and we had 160 million when uh Joe Biden became president which tells me it was all rigged he's not a legitimate president he should have never been elected and that is proven by the math all right Donald Trump won every swing state I'd say this election is rigged proven by the math well yeah it's not rigged this time it was some of States had Democratic Governors win their races but she lost what's gonna happen to the Democratic governor it's rigged Democratic they had Democratic Governors and like don't [ __ ] coded in their state con itu to abortion like Democratic Poli Massachusetts they're going to get all their Federal funding cut off and then we'll see how how fast they flip on you there's also that there's a video on Tik Tok going around of Rachel mat just showing Donald Trump literally saying five six times it I don't need your votes it doesn't matter I don't need your vote stay home we've already got the votes he did say that five or six times we're going to get to that and then also The Joe Rogan thing talking about Elon Musk with this app where he saw Trump win four hours before they even started tallying up well hell everybody knew he was gonna win yeah we knew that too we're gonna get to that to the possibility of gonna be an electorial Landslide was let me say one more thing that I'm gonna shut my mouth because y'all all you guys are doing is fight I received a map I've received it from like 10 different people and it showed by County where the votes were won and by whom she only won around the Democratic cities like the sanctuary cities those were her counties she won he won the whole state of those but she won those counties by a smaller margin than Biden did in 2020 and and look we're going to get to okay that specifically a little bit later I would like to talk about these numbers that I've been trying to get to Donald Trump got 71 .85 million votes this year Comm Harris got 66.9 in 2020 Joe Biden had 81.28 and Trump had 74.2 two so Trump did slide he lost three million votes roughly then if we go all the way back to 2016 Hillary Clinton got 65.8 five to Donald Trump 62.99 so you're looking at KLA Harris getting similar numbers to Hillary Clinton back in 2016 and obviously you know vastly underperforming by about 15 million votes uh give or take Joe Biden in 2020 the only and Trump won all the swing states on the C where'd mom go I have to Kitt so Haley who do you blame for this if I may ask Russian interference there were bomb threats called into Georgia from Russia we know that that happened I don't even know what to think because I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I typically like take [ __ ] you know for what it is but I do find some of those videos alarming of him you know we don't need the votes we don't need your votes that's [ __ ] suspicious and that he won all swing states that we have Democrats voted into State office but like somehow he won that state it just doesn't add up it doesn't make sense I agree so I mean like who's gonna look into it no one because the Democrats are terrible at this and they have it's going to be a peaceful transfer of power the theocrats like for me this election is like the Democratic part is done they are they had a candidate who seemed to have a ground swell support who seemed to have everybody behind her they had more money than Trump they had all of the advantages going into this with maybe the exception of like not having a primary Biden waiting too long whatever you can you can backseat or or Monday Morning Quarterback that [ __ ] all day long the fact that they were unable to win even a swing state to me is like you got to get rid of everybody they don't understand how to do elections you're running against Donald Trump in what as you're saying in your post was the most misogynistic racist hatefield campaign in the history of America [ __ ] criminal he's criminal which he's not now all that goes away see you guys so [ __ ] repulsive you guys are saying you think we're nuts but yet we're saying you guys are nuts and I promise if you would see that M she only won counties that were very populated in those S Sanctuary cities but that was the same as Biden she didn't win the black um men Vote or the Hispanic they're tired of the economy and they voted for Trump she did win those votes just by a smaller margin than Biden did and that's the the key difference here she the same places she won in all those counties are the same place as Biden won but Biden won by a larger margin so he carried those States it's just like and Trump the whole team knew this and you're telling me he's got Peter teal Elon Musk all these like genius evil billionaires in there with him Tech guys all they're looking at that and they're like all you got to do is like change this by about 2% in these counties Where She Went if you can shave off 2% of her margin there you're going to win the whole state and look I don't know I'm not saying that this was rigged necessarily all those things what's that really oh my here we go I'm not but I'm also saying it's a possibility for the same reasons that that I think you're talking about Haley those there are multiple clips of him before the election saying we don't need you to vote what politician says that se clip send me one I've never seen I'll send you the the r like f yeah there's like five [ __ ] occurrences yeah send them to me I've never seen him all I have seen is him going out saying vote see that's what's alarming to me you haven't seen half the [ __ ] that's come out of his mouth but you voted for him and all these terrible things that he's saying and all this really [ __ ] corrupt [ __ ] that he's been saying you're like I've never seen that why the [ __ ] have I haven't H interesting all right have you seen have you seen the blowback now where uh like an entire group of men now have a slogan your body my choice have you seen that how women are now gonna how women are now in [ __ ] danger of being sexually assaulted because of Donald Trump being a rapist in the White House oh my God hey literal literally people on campuses holding signs that say property that men own houses cars women slaves no have not seen that has started there is now a network of people sending uh text messages on random phones to Black universities that say you need to be ready at noon to get in the slave van your Plantation is group a guess what I did see that you're laughing at that dad that's not coming from laughing at that that's not coming from because the people that are saying that are just [ __ ] stupid that had to be coming from outside the United States or something you think it's [ __ ] stupid that an entire group of men are now rallying and their entire slogan is your body my choice you think blah blah blah blah blah blah wait wait wait no dad you you can't blah blah blah that this is a a big thing that's going to happen as a result of not a big thing just it'll go away a week okay it won't do you remember his first go remember all of the different uh the the guys with tiki torches you will not replace us do you remember the dude who drove a car into a crowd of protesters and killed somebody I remember a whole Trump emboldens these kind of attitudes and setting [ __ ] on fire that's what I remember BLM The Summer of Love Got Away are terrified queer people are terrified black people are terrified but Dad you're talking about I remember people setting cities on fire and stuff do you know why that happened yeah because a video came out of a white cop murdering a black guy yeah right and now that isn't murder was uh what was it oh manslaughter huh no it was murder he went to jail for that yeah he went to jail for manslaughter that time and now all of that [ __ ] is G [ __ ] all right all of that [ __ ] is gonna happen tenfold and nobody's going to be held accountable I don't I don't see that I really don't feel that see that you guys are like taking it to a different planet you're a total bunch of talkers you're taking it to a different planet the only way this would have went into do you acknowledge we lost do you acknowledge that police were killing black people and getting away with it do you acknowledge like that [ __ ] happened no when you don't acknowledge any of that ick knowledge slavery existed in this country yes long time ago okay and started by black kings in Africa Jesus and do you think that the attitudes from that time permeate down through the generations oh they they were starting to disappear until we elected Barack Obama and then he brought it back to Forefront we've talked about racism the the peak of racism that we have today is a direct result of Barack Obama okay the people who are racists it's the black guy fault it's well he's a racist okay big time who is Barack Obama [ __ ] is the worst racist planet Earth I suppose you think I suppose you think Al Sharpton's not a racist I want to ask you this do you think that these kind of attitudes uh misogyny racism all the things Haley's mentioning do you think these things will be better or worse during a trump presidency mom they will be much better better thank you Mom I think better really I think our whole country is going to be better you think it's going to be better but literally in the days post his election the stuff that Haley's mentioning the text messages to black people saying get ready for slavery and death threats the male students on campuses holding signs that say women are my property you think that's better I think it's temporary and it'll go away okay um interesting the outrage that they're uh spewing right now is totally misinformed miscalculated and in two to three months it won't even be a thing you won't even remember you talked about this I don't know if that's going to be true let's move on to Trump's cabinet I'm pretty sure it's gonna be true okay and I was pretty sure we were going to win the election so I'm going to go on my my Rec record all right um Susie WS a Florida Republican strategist and the woman who basically ran Trump's campaign has been named know you know her M name is uh I did know this I read it she's a daughter of Pat simmerl yes that's correct yes uh Susie Wilds a Florida Republican strategist and the woman who ran his campaign has been named as his chief of staff this is the first woman to ever hold that position in American history so Trump is a feminist we can all agree just kidding um some people are talking about Elon Musk being put in his cabinet and whether Elon Musk is in his cabinet or not he's in his immediate sphere of influence so is Peter teal these are both giant Tech billionaires who want zero regulation in the industries especially AI that they are trying to move forward in now do you think it is a good idea to have a billionaire president surrounded by a group of billionaires who will force him leverage against him to start writing laws or weakening laws to make their Industries regulation free do you think that's a good idea is going to no one is going to force president Trump to do anything that he doesn't want to do why would you he will want to do it because he will make money to pay him he is not like Camala Harris that has things in her ear and is being told what to do she's she was bar the puppet of Obama you're right he's a [ __ ] criminal he's a fraer he's a rapist won will do anything for he already has been convicted of 34 felonies idea that you think the idea that you think Donald Trump gives a [ __ ] about you or anyone else isse it all okay Donald Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] about you or anyone else oh I'm I'm I'm just asking this question of you Mom and Dad do you think it is a good idea to have a president that's a billionaire and his closest in Inner Circle all be billionaires do you think they have on the planet do you think they have the best interest of the regular person in mind or do you think kind I think ultimately yes these people will do more good for a human race than anything why does it matter if you're rich or poor because when you're that rich ideas to have them near you I'll give you a good example it's called Russia they have what is known as an oligarchy it is Putin at the top I know what it is you don't have to explain it to me all right I'm going to anyway then why can't recognize the parallels there is no parallel it's the exact same thing happen TR Donald Trump is not Putin about his secretary of state she's not a billionaire no I'm not of course there are going to be some people in his cabinet who aren't mean but the way Russia operates is it's Putin and then he's got about five or six of these billionaires who control one or another Industries in Russia the metal industry the oil industry food what's that I said good for them this isn't Russian no but that's what he's trying to line this up to be no he's not that's where you're wrong you don't know what you're talking about I've never heard of that now stuff out there look do you think the average billionaire do that's hilarious do you think the average billionaire understands what life is like for anybody who doesn't have a billion dollars for anybody who doesn't even have a million dollar a lot of billionaires understand that you know why because billionaires make a lot of money but they lose a lot of money at one time in their lifetime they go up and down up and down and they pay taxes father know who was poor who was poor that you're talking about your father know were both poor when they started out and they and they made all nobody cares about them nobody gives a [ __ ] we're talking about Trump you just asked me who and I just gave you two prime examples no I meant who of the people in Donald Trump's Circle were born before because the answer is no one they were born with [ __ ] diamonds in their pockets or in his case emeralds oh my God yeah Trump himself was given whatever that [ __ ] like $5 million in quotes loan from his dad when he turned 18 they don't know anything about Real Americans they don't know anything about what normal people go through just be quiet let him talk let's talk about about the economic impacts here um the immediate impact is the stock market has been surging since the election Dow Jones and S&P 500 have seen their best week this year but I mean I think that has something to do obviously with uh Trump coming into office and Industry is being like deregulation is on baby we can [ __ ] everybody over now but this is also coming at the tail end of a historic record-breaking increase in all stock markets under Biden as well so it could be a little bit of the the upward Trend Haley what do you think the economic impact on America is going to be of this Trump presidency especially if he does put in place these tariffs that he's been talking about for the past three months GNA be awesome you know I don't than you Haley I don't typically like just wish ill will on people yeah but I feel like but she's going to in the next year everybody's gonna realize [ __ ] we made a mistake because you're going to be paying double for all of your groceries you're going to be paying double for all the [ __ ] that you want to buy online are you kidding Haley oh my God see they don't even know they don't even know what's coming so it's almost like I can't wait to watch you all [ __ ] snivel because it's your fault they won't snivel this is the thing about it I agree with you I think some [ __ ] is going to get very bad specifically financially for the average person there will be no God oh my God you're going to pay less taxes than you were going to pay under no we Miss oh yes you will no we won't yeah you you know who's paying less taxes Elon Musk no you will too all right well no we won't let's just say will hang on a minute hang on a minute talking about neither of us know what we actually happen we're just predicting things here but we don't actually know we have to live through the time to see what happens that's right but let's just come with me on authorities on the economy I also have a I also think that you're your [ __ ] medication for your pre-existing condition is about to [ __ ] Skyrocket that's gonna be a real good time for you guys you want a bet what insulin you mean hang on hang on hang on hang on he's gonna get rid of Obamacare y'all get ready we're just predicting things now hang on a minute hang on a minute we don't give a [ __ ] about Obama Care go ahead Chan if I'm I'm just taking you down a theoretical path okay yes and we're going to go both ways here year from now be quiet the financial situation in America is fantastic all prices are down stock market is up everybody's making more money and paying less for the things they need Haley do you think you'll be able to acknowledge that Trump has done good with the economy yeah for I mean yeah okay Mom and Dad let's go the opposite I'll admit when I'm wrong that's the difference Mom and Dad I want to go the opposite direction if a year from now dad your medication is triple the price mom your Sonic hamburgers are triple the price your seeing articles come out left and right about how the workingclass American is living beyond paycheck to paycheck now acre massive debt and everything is bad will you be able to admit that that is because of Trump's Financial policies that's the way it is now okay so I'm asking if in a year let's say things don't change or they get worse will you be able to admit Trump is at fault yes just say yes yes yes okay but neither of you actually believe that yes well it's not going to happen so we don't worry I'm taking you down a theoretical path yeah you and your theoretical paths okay quit yelling let's get in let's get a big let's both of you just take a big [ __ ] dose of reality instead of your hypothetical horeshit oh my God you won't be able to deny it because now we have a republican maity in the house the Senate the Supreme Court the president so anything that hits the fan is on you that's right and you're going to love every [ __ ] minute of it I our economy our economy is going to be better you will not be paying as much at the grocery store but I do believe the tariffs that he will put on like China cheap um the things that we are going to need from China will go up a little but not a lot I read an article like uh what like a something would go up three or four dollars more for the consumer BFD if he can bring our economy back to where people can afford their food what's wrong with paying three or four dollars more times a 100 items in your basket that [ __ ] adds up I'm not talking about groceries I'm talking about like a pair of tennis shoes from Nike or something like that something from China okay Russia well speaking of Russia uh Trump has vowed essentially to cut all Aid all funding to Ukraine I believe that will happen very quickly and so Russia is going to steamroll Ukraine Putin's plans are to take back that entire region and make it part of the old USSR he wants to reestablish that do you believe that will be a good thing to give Putin more power in the world and do you think Trump might even Aid Russia if he's if he's taking power away from zinski and giving it to Putin that'll be the best thing that ever happened in this world because all all zinski is done take billi billions of our money and stuck it in his [ __ ] back pocket made my biggest fears is that we align that we're the new Big Bad Russia CH like I'm terrified that we are the new big bad and so it's like if I move out of the country how [ __ ] far do I have to go to get away from Russia for starters but like I can't [ __ ] say I don't want to be part of that [ __ ] I I'll say this go to Mexico go I you know I I think a lot of people are going through this right now and you know trying to figure out like how how should I react how should I feel about this and all this kind of stuff and I remember in 2016 how come all how come all the Hollywood Superstars haven't packed their [ __ ] and got the [ __ ] out of here already what do you mean they all have houses in every country any country they want they can leave they moving to and selling their property here you have to we don't want them here we don't want him here all right you can take Robert daero on shoving up your ass all right so I've I've thought a lot about like how I reacted to this in 2016 which was two three years maybe into the Trump presidency of staying up every night till 5:00 a.m. watching every News Channel reading everything hoping that there would be some way to overturn this whatever what I have learned from the 2016 uh run is the Democrats aren't going to do [ __ ] this is happening it's over they are terrible I'm I'm firmly convinced of that they are politically impotent they they cannot do this and and I don't know what like the the next era of political landscape is going to look like but I think for a while we're [ __ ] that said I have kind of vowed to myself to not do what I did in 2016 and to kind of check out from it a little bit we're going to do this show if you guys would have still keep doing it every Sunday I do think right now what we're doing this conversation we're trying to have is like more important than it's been in the past two years because we're entering this phase of America that is going to be absolutely [ __ ] insane and I think continuing to talk to each other is important because we're already starting to see it in this podcast you guys are piss Haley's piss nobody wants to say anything other than insults we're I am I'm [ __ ] mad and like you can we're not can check out because you don't have kids you don't have like the thought of my kids having kids in this country makes me want to [ __ ] vomit like I literally want to get them out so like when we start a family line it's not [ __ ] American yeah I want out out I am terrified well then you have to move if you really feel my children their children and their children get get your [ __ ] and go if you really feel that I've already articulated to you we're gonna see what happens and if I have to leave I'm [ __ ] taking them if it's not safe here for my kids we're [ __ ] gone okay so see that that way of thinking to me I think you're just talking craziness how could I think in our mind we're going what how could this not be sa in My Mind Donald Trump was was the crazy [ __ ] candidate I thought there's no way not a second time and if you watch these Tik toks of people being interviewed around the world they are Gob smacked they cannot [ __ ] understand liberal word Gob smacked I love it liberal word it's an English just a word in the dictionary that's a liberal word I cannot in conscience leave my daughters here to get pregnant and potentially die because they can't get life-saving abortions yeah one that's the way to raise your kids number one I can't leave I can't leave them to have children here and then be educated by no Board of Education number one learning about [ __ ] God In School why would you want your girls to have abortions in the first place you cannot comprehend that not all abortions are some women want their babies and have to have abortions you can't comprehend that would you want why would you want your children to have an abortion you're not hearing me some people need them to not [ __ ] die that's a good question take bab you are notar [ __ ] answer that question no listen mom and dadang hearing me listen to what she's saying listen go ahead haly please Dad shut up for a second just listen there are women who want their [ __ ] babies and their [ __ ] that's [ __ ] wrong so they need an abortion to save their [ __ ] lives women are dying here dying from in the state I [ __ ] live in they wanted their children then you need they wanted to have their [ __ ] babies and the ER said [ __ ] you I'm not touching that because then I lose my license and I go to prison for 99 years because that's what you get in Texas for performing an abortion so sit here and let my daughters [ __ ] die on a table why would I do that then that law needs to be changed for if the mother is in distress or the baby the doctor inter and I thought law is you voted for a man that doesn't give a [ __ ] he rapes women he doesn't give a [ __ ] Haley if you really feel this way you need to go because we don't feel this way I agree I've been looking at the fastest way to get the [ __ ] out okay all right now that is you're not the only person uh I read an article just yesterday that said people in the United States are Googling how do I leave this country in record numbers the search traffic on Google of that specific question is literally higher than it has ever been so Mom where are you going Chad I'm staying in La what if you need abortion where you gonna go I'm not going to need an abortion but I have gone down the path as we all have in our mind at least on the left of what will it look like what will be the thing that might happen where you're like [ __ ] I'm out and so I put together a little list of how authoritarians take power what are the first things that happen one of the first big things is shutting down of some kind of mainstream news Outlet I can see as soon as Trump gets into office he's going to sue the New York Times CNN MSNBC if he successfully takes down like the New York Times that will be caused for concern mom dad would that scare you at all no no because he said on day one he will close the border if I see that I'm gonna be celebrating no but you're not you're again not listening to anything I'm saying guess what I don't give a [ __ ] about the New York Times they haven't they haven't put out anything of value in about four or five years then the fent all won't come across the border to be able to kill your children freedom of speech do you believe in freedom of speech Yes because he wants to eliminate that no he doesn't oh my god do you let me ask you this mom and dad do you see if he were able to shut down the New York Times through some kind of let's say that he he puts out a lawsuit against them it goes all the way to the Supreme Court he controls what I'll throw a party okay so you're all for the eradication of freedom of speech in America no I'm all for the eradication of the people who haven't given us freedom of speech for the last five years TRC CNN they all gotta go the next thingly you gotta take the doj and the FBI with them I think B's on board with the dictatorship I don't think he gives a [ __ ] I think he'd like he'd be standing in line ready to go they don't give a [ __ ] I agree I and I I correct us if we're wrong you guys would be okay with Trump just coming in killing all the Democrats or jailing them erasing the New York Times and potentially even killing US citizens I would assume right oh my God no and if you really think that of US 20 million illegals that really makes me sad well I mean dad has openly said all those things you you haven't mom I think there's hope for you yet but what do you think's going to happen during mass deportation if this actually happens what do you think happens during a mass deportation military and police get involved you think they're all just GNA go quietly people with no if they don't they're gonna go dead people with no record exactly no paperwork that has their name on it that they're here legally by our government you you realize there are undocumented immigrants just waiting for their papers like effectively paying taxes right now in the United States and living among us they are just simply waiting on their papers guess what if they can show that then they would get to stay there are also illegals that have come over with no documentation no documentation me ask you this mom here's what I believe I believe anybody them they blow something up I believe anybody that wants to escape a Bad Country should be able to come into the United States but to do it the right way at the ports at the places that you can come across we've been over this before your grandmother came over at my grandmother your great grandmother Ella silent they put their name in a record they put it on a ledger where you gonna go they the city they were going what Donald Trump doesn't believe that because he wants to make it so that no one from any Muslim country can come into United States not if they're documented hang on Mom wrong Mom let me ask you question Dad if I may if I may if I may if I may there are a certain amount of people that are dreamers in this country kids that were brought here by their parents they are not legal but they have only really grown up in the United States since age zero they know nothing else this is where they live should they be deported they need to become US citizens then they can stay what's wrong with that what's wrong with asking someone that is years what's wrong with asking someone that has been here for 20 years to be able to speak English by then to be able to go down to the courthouse put their hand up and swear that they're going to be a US citizen they should be able to stay all right yes why not well let me paint a picture for you because in this Mass deportation that he's talking about doing there's there's really only one way to do it it's knocking on doors the US military d dragging people out of their houses ripping families apart putting them in detention camps around the southern border or wherever they think they're going to send them back to and you're going to be seeing that all over the news you're going to be seeing I would start in Denver Colorado with that suburb called Aurora that they have taken over apartment building complexes that the Venezuelans are there with machine guns and they won't let any Americans in that's where I would start and I would take I wouldn't even take the um National Guard I'd take in like R soldiers like hit squads get the [ __ ] out of here you don't belong here you take in hit squads I would take in people that sounds remarkable like who who had these are from Venezuela what what politician had private hit squads a private military police force who was that oh it was Hitler um that is something that's another thing that was on my authoritarian list literally specialized militarized police force people in yeah it has to be Donald Trump's the only one that can do it okay so you believe not you know what Haley could just stay here it could be a third world country losers okay Dad's saying you're sore losers what how are we sore losers we're having a conversation about this he's the sore winner he's screaming at us you guys won just because Donald Trump won doesn't mean I have to accept of course just like you guys didn't accept Jo I don't have to no we didn't and you know what we did we went with it we let it roll and goddess and that's what we're doing too but what I'm trying to talk about in the signs of authoritarian rule segment here is what are the things we should be looking out for that are going to tip us off and I'm curious mom and dad your position on it if you started to see some of these things happen would it alarm you so Donald Trump erasing the New York Times dad would actually like that wouldn't alarm you uh what about jailing political rivals or uh voices of political dissent yeah I'm [ __ ] leaving and any of this [ __ ] start popping off like we're gone whose political Rivals do you think he's going to put in jail I don't get he has openly said that's one of his goals yeah and you know what I think he is going to uh pardon both Biden and Hunter and they're the most illegal pieces of they're not convicted of anything for what they did he's convicted he's he's gonna pardon himself do you think that should be allowed yes so you do believe he's above the law I think he's going to get our country back where it needs to be he's going to make the law count I just watched him Meet the Press he answers no questions he will make yeah he's make accountable do you think the President should be able to Pardon himself from convictions I don't know the answer is no the answer is no do you believe any us citizen is above the law or should it apply equally to everyone well if every citizen is above the law then we don't have a government I agree with you so there is one citizen right now who is above the law that's Donald Trump do you think that's fair to the rest of us he won the election he's not above the law no he is all of the said that he's been convicted 34 times yeah he should have been sentencing is now gone he should have been in prison before he ever got the chance to run I agree he should be in jail hang on a minute dad's back there screaming that I'm a blowhard all of those convictions the sentencing didn't happen they postponed the sentencing so that it wouldn't happen before the election now the election has happened and there will be no sentencing right that has dissipated so talking about being Above the Law he's literally convicted of 34 felonies so he will not be sentenced so was the Biden crime family come on they take it both ways they weren't convicted of anything what do you talking about will they will be if it continues to go on so again we're talking about Donald Trump right now don't think about Biden and the crime family yeah we can't we can't switch to the Democrats not answering my question they're Eternal apologists they will never when I ask a question [ __ ] criminal you you switch it to well what about the Biden crime family I'm asking you about this Donald Trump he I he was railroaded into all of that stuff really was they were that doesn't matter if his if his big toe was bigger than the second one they would have taken him to court on something they were trying to take him down that way that's what I feel no matter what they threw at him he came on the other end I did he was convicted of 34 felonies right by um he was railroaded into it by a big fat black I keep I keep seeing this on the internet anyone convicted convicted of a felony like in real life doesn't get a job it's hard to find a job our [ __ ] president of the United States is gonna have 34 felonies no no he isn't he's GNA have zero zero dad say he will have zero but and that's what I'm asking you you think that's fair yes that a billionaire president can just erase all of his problems winning the elction [ __ ] dad is yelling all 34 are bugus [ __ ] anyway our government is [ __ ] over it's done like democracy is dead I'm not sure that that's true I am I am like I was trying to get to this point earlier before Dad kind of broke in there um time to quit for for what it's worth I'm out Bob be quiet for what it's worth I think that I am going to uh look at at this time around much differently sorry my cat is over here trying to tear my door apart scabby stop that scabby I'm going to try and take a different approach this time around like I said last time it was two or three years of just debilitating uh anxiety paranoia fear this time around I'm not going to engage with that I'm completely disengaging from mainstream media who I believe is a a massive part of this problem what's happening mom nothing I'm trying to find I'm going to do this show with you guys every Sunday hopefully if you want to continue doing it and have these conversations because again I think they're more important now than they were in the two years leading up to this as we witness whatever is about to happen with Trump now I will say this about the first time around with Trump all of these same fears were there about descending into authoritarian rule he's going to destroy the American uh all of the different foundational systems of our government and legislative system etc etc and he weakened them but they held for the most part he lost that election in 2020 and yes he tried to have a military coup take over the the [ __ ] uh Capitol building but that didn't happen and Joe Biden was then president for four years so I I am choosing actively to hang on to that fact and hope that four years from now he will be gone and whatever damage he's going to do he's going to do but God I just hope that it's not as bad as we all think it is and that that hope I guess allows me to look at this a little differently at least than I did in 2016 and not flush two to three years of my life down the toilet watching Rachel Mt if you're gonna get off I can't do that yeah like it directly affects me my kids everyone in my bakery literally every day like I have to pay attention to Texas legislation like every day what are they going to do now sugar bear says if Chad you're getting off all networks and all you know TV and all that how are you going to do the podcast if you don't know what's current I'll know what's current I mean I'll I'll see what's happening but I'm not going to spend hours a day watching the news like I did in 2016 I will get the pieces of information that I need but I'm not uh devoting my life to it Mom I had one more question and this is for Dad too and for you as well Haley let's say there's a theoretical outcome of this where either because um you know Trump supporters are now emboldened or Trump himself starts taking legal action against public dissenters what if something were to happen Bob be quiet for a minute go ahead Chan I I would ask Dad one question for next week can you be nice to us no all right um what if in the very near future something happens to Hive Bakery either brick through the window uh Cops start harassing her because she's making anti-trump cookies something along these lines all the way up to she gets arrested for making cookies what would your reaction to that bom I would be down in the jail bailing her ass out and then she'd be done baking and we'd leave done baking why why would I put her back in that situation where not your decision first of all but what it's not your decision to put her wherever you you think she she belongs she's my kid and I'm not going to leave her In Harm's Way so I'll get her the hell out of there okay with myun Dad do you think that would you be in the jail bailing Haley out or do you think she would deserve whatever repercussion she gets bail out he'd bail her around he just said so and you know it you effing know that both of you do I'm just curious because every once in a while Mom you will on this very show you've told Haley like you need to stop making those cookies something bad's going to happen but you you fail to see that that's her freedom of speech to make the cookies I was in there if I was baking right now I don't I don't think I'd be in there baking anymore okay dad said you need to do Trump cookies and do it both ways and people wouldn't be mad at you both ways okay I I also just just want to put this out there moving forward on this podcast we have to have you and Dad together in the same frame both paying attention for one hour and engag in the conversation was over five minutes ago he said the podcast was over five minutes ago all right fair enough well day there you have it he doesn't have all day what does he got to do you know what he's GNA do sleep in that [ __ ] chair go shiny yeah um well this was our first podcast back after this Trump Victory this is not a good podcast no it's look that's why this podcast is called the necessary conversation it is necessary I'll tell you why I have I have people in my bakery that vote like me and their parents vat like you and they don't talk about it and there's just an underlying kind of elephant in the room all the time resentment you don't say how you feel I can at least say how I feel and it makes me feel better and you can maybe see where I'm coming from no absolutely I I really think this country right now the division between left and right blue and red however you want to look at it is now more Stark than it has ever been and for the next four years I think it will only get worse you're seeing I had no idea that you two would like attack us today like you diding I thought you'd be moping a little bit and you know what I've never rubbed it in your face that our side won even on our Instagram account I didn't put all these bad memes memes whatever they're called I saw terrible ones I saw terrible funny ones I didn't put them out there okay because that's hurting people's feelings I didn't do that right but you're you're now saying we're attacking you which is a kind of victim play that you like to do what um we're not attacking you we're talking about how we feel and think about this and I'm asking questions I'm just angry I'm angry well I'm not trying to I'm not trying I'm not trying to attack you we didn't I mean you did vote for Donald Trump but I'm not trying to attack you I am just trying to articulate how I feel I'm [ __ ] for Donald and I'm scared and I gotta figure out what the [ __ ] we're gonna do with our lives I voted for Donald Trump so that my grandchildren wouldn't be in h the goog and uh under communist rule that's why I voted for Donald Trump authoritarian better than communist yes I don't like communism I wouldn't want communism my grand do you know what an authoritarian is mom guess what that's why my grandmother's uh family um got out of there she was on the here's the irony of this whole thing people fled their countries in search of a better [ __ ] life because of religious persecution right I believe that we are now going to experience that here in the United States and we are now going to be the immigrants looking for a better life guess what we're just going to have to see we're going to have to wait and see how this turns out it's all we can do we will for what it's worth one of my very good friends who uh is also on our side Haley and is taking this very personally and uh you know is not in a good way she did have some hope she had a good message of hope uh for me last time we talked and it was this all of the Tik Tock psychics are saying Donald Trump won't make it to office that's funny that's funny so we'll see yes Mom closing thoughts please Michael Jackson is alive and well that's what Tik Tock says okay Haley closing thoughts I don't know I just I don't know like I'm trying my best to not be completely just [ __ ] defeated and you know people come into the bakery and they're like you can't leave I mean I had people literally come in like wanting to hug me everybody was crying an entire circle of people in my Lobby like swapping stories and what are we going to do and uh I've had groups reach out to me about do you know places that are safe for Trans people to eat in your area you know like it's uh there's a it's there's a thickness to the air and um are you I'm still processing I think because I was sad and now I'm angry and I know there's like a a rationale that's going to happen at some point like you can't just cut run you got to fight uh because typically that's who I am you know I I I feel like I'm on the right side of history and in a time like this where you have to you have to pick sides I feel like I'm on the right side you know you you go through history and you see things like the Holocaust and you have to ask yourself who am I in that scenario and and I feel like I'm on the right side and so do you [ __ ] flee or do you stay in fight you're you're way off the edge here it's nothing going to be like that hoca nothing going to be like that okay this is the end of the show as always even in this uh most trying time we must tell each other that we love each other despite being on the opposite sides of this despite some of us wanting to leave the country etc etc Haley I love you we will get through this Mom I love you Dad wherever you are screaming in the background I love you too even though you're a sore winner that's funny Mom I love you dad I love you Chad I love you oh those that was sincere that was very sincere I love it Chad I love you Haley I love you Chad I love you Haley I love you I would bail you both out of jail and you e know that even if it you were in there for murder okay oh Bob I love you I love everybody no you're not doing it from a distance or you're not gonna do it anymore yeah I love everybody and I'm going to see my horsey oh God all right well we'll be back next week question mark we shall see good luck out there everybody as we move into these uncharted waters uh stay safe and if you do have somebody on the other side of the aisle from you whatever that may be try to talk to them because I do think that that is a huge problem in this [ __ ] country is the two sides are split nobody and the other per the whoever's on the other side of that line becomes the enemy period we are all Americans after all human beings they could have just been misinformed and not racist bigot sexist they could have just been misinformed you never know you got to ask them why they voted because I have found that some of the people I know when I ask them they literally have no clue what Donald Trump's platform or La thereof is of course and they just are trying to you know pay my bills and the economy is bad we never knew what Harris's some of it is misinformation and so uh there's a little bit of Grace I think with those people now MAA I mean you know unfriend I I read an article just say we love each other we need to stop it now wait I I have one more little little thing to say I read it's very quick I read an article that said um the number one response in these polls that were asked of the question do you think Donald Trump will uh become an authoritarian the number one response was what's an authoritarian yeah that's the country we're living in thank you for joining us we will be back next week bye hang bye dad said hang up all right I'll catch you guys next week bye bye