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in the aftermath of the 2024 election America is even more divided than before half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it as America inches toward the brink of authoritarian Rule now more than ever we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation why don't I have ear things they're called headphones why don't I have any you can buy them on amazon.net biz.com org.gov do they help will they help me I don't know if you can hear us okay you're fine okay welcome to the necessary conversation I'm Chad culton with me is my sister but not her eyebrows and my mother but not my father what is going on dad's coming he's rolling down a bed go ahead Haley what's up with the brows I got eyebrows I just bleached them oh you dyed them I couldn't tell if you shaved them off or dyed them no I got eyebrows all right shaving the eyebrows would be a bold move you go shaved eyebrows shaved head full alien oh Lord there he is hey bye and he's gone he's coming are you going to the restroom or where uh no wait wait wait wait uhuh and we are with I am with my son Chad and my daughter Haley and my son's face is like bruised beat up red what the hell happened to you these are what most people consider to be second deegree Burns that I incurred while cooking a pot of GRL I was using a wooden spoon and smashing the tomatoes up against the edge of the the pot and the spoon snapped and the spoon part flipped up and just sprayed my face with boiling gr that's terrible I know do a closeup let me see it up close can I do that on this what did you what did you put on it oh that's good this is as close as I can go for you okay now go up no one no one watching this on YouTube will see what I'm doing because it's a different oh my god well I noticed it's it's on your cheek under your eye up by lucky that it wasn't like your eye eye now you're getting it if it would have hit my eye that would have been I'm sure permanent blindness oh my God however it wasn't I did survive sometimes times you eat the gr sometimes the gr eats you let's begin this program this is the necessary conversation on the show my sister who you can tell by her eyebrows is a fellow Lefty like me and my parents who you can tell by their Trump Bible are deep in the magga cult and we discuss the top political issues of the day we are going to begin with a question today but before we do that Dad I wanted to you've made some wild predictions on this show one of them was January 29th 2023 you said within 30 to 40 days there would be nuclear weapons used in Ukraine we are now 749 days past that prediction no nuclear weapons used in Ukraine but that's not the okay that's not the craziest prediction you made I would say this is they been used okay okay we're going to go on another prediction though there is one that you made on February 26th 2023 the uh final date of that uh premonition coming true or not is going to happen in 10 days from this recording and this was the prediction you made again on February 26 2023 need to learn Chinese within 2 years World War III will also happen within the next two years half of the US population will be dead within those same two years that is 165.540 uh listener question of course last week we took a week off from talking politics today we are heavily back into it you want to do diddies you forgot about me again I didn't forget about you I was trying to get through the show but if you got diddies let's hear oh oh that's a knife that's a knife in the side trying to get through the show I promise she'll be fun guess what no diddies for you you're GNA punish me yep there you go by not doing your diddies yeah they were so first you do a victimization play you forgot about me and then I said okay do your didies nope now you don't get them and then you do the strange punishment play why is this why is that your strategy your go-to strategy you always forget my dides we have done your didies on this show every week you've ever wanted to do them do them now if you want now go on to the listener we haven't had a listener question in a long time go ahead okay here we go we're all being punished hi Colton family I'm such a big fan I've listened forever my name is Sadie I'm going to try and do this in less than a minute with all the Nuance really just want to hear each of your thoughts and opinions on some of these new Trans laws coming up in the past years and under this new Administration specifically just curious about the bathroom thing is that really what we want uh all people to use whatever restroom is affiliated with the gender they were assigned at Birth like yeah what what's a trans man to do you know who's a man and you know looks like a quote unquote man whatever that means like are we wanting them in the women's restroom and vice versa I mean I have thoughts but I I'm just very curious to hear what y'all think all right so Dad you've already kind of started to answer the question can a trans man use a women's bathroom no well that's what the laws are they're trying to do that for Trump that you have to use the bathroom that corresponds with whatever your sex is at Birth if you were a man when you were born you go to the man's bathroom so a trans man would is a woman at Birth who then takes hormone well could do anythings to go to the girls room yeah what's that CH has go to the little girl's room okay so you're okay then with a man with a full beard walking into a women's restroom sure all right Mom if you have a vagina and you go into a woman's restroom if you have a penis you go into a man's restroom what about if it's a that you were born with if you were born with okay so if a trans man has reconstructive surgery to create a penis that person still goes into the woman's restroom correct all right but you know what I want to I want to Pig I know what you think about this haly it's exactly what I think about this anyone should use any bathroom who gives a [ __ ] wear a [ __ ] Mom Dad I want to ask you this because I think Trump is very good at just issuing kind of tital wave blanket like we're doing this we're doing this we're doing this and a lot of it is just bait to get people pissed off another one that he did this week which I didn't have as a topic is he issued an executive order to get rid of paper straws and go back to plastic straws is that a big issue for you never was okay thank you for your time but but we use plastic straws okay but my God his one month never did use paper his one month in being our president he's done so many things it's mindblowing oh we're going to get to some of those and you Democrats and Liberals are losing your ever loving mind I mean who gives a [ __ ] okay I have to do my D now I've got please didy away I knew we would be gifted with them I knew the punishment wouldn't last long number one our windchill this week is supposed to be on Tuesday Wednesday negative 20ga - 255 if either of you care to call and see how we're doing um okay I might be able to do a few more police chase random videos and clip because I'll have time being locked down with the snowstorm and blizzard the baby's face randomly popping up in the background hilarious that was one of my granddaughter's faces and it happened to be when I filmed that it would I don't even know how to describe how that happened but she was in the background there um attorney general Pam Bondi announced Wednesday the Justice dep department is folling a lawsuit against the state of New York the governor and the state general Leticia James over immigration enforcement she said we're taking steps to protect Americans because New York has chosen to prioritize illegals over the American citizen they're filing lawsuits now they're tired of this crap U manangi Luigi Luigi mangion Trump just revoked $80 million to New York Luigi mangion um he had an he had a GoFundMe or something where people just start giving him money and he's raised up to 300,000 to help with his defense I think that's crazy 300,000 we we view that differently I love Luigi mangion I hope we get more of those actions I think it's the only thing that actually makes a difference I'm gonna write him a letter in prison oh my God okay well here's what he says if you're write a letter his first I am overwhelmed by and grateful for everyone who has written to me to share their stories and express their support adding he's received mail from around the world while it's impossible for me to uh reply to most of these letters please know that I've read everyone that I've received thank you again to everyone who took time to write me what would you write him Haley thank you for potentially starting the revolution yeah yeah whatever I feel compelled to write and I'm going to use the letter head uh of my bakery with my merch that says Eat the Rich hell yeah support support better eat yourself then you're getting pretty rich off all the merch oh shots oh and you know that's true so let me just ask you this do you think that the money Haley is making off of the merch and the cupcakes and stuff comes close to a billion dollar yeah or even a million let's just go there yeah okay I'm I'm a small business in [ __ ] Flower Mountain Texas trying to make a living and pay 10 people I don't know how that equates to me being even a millionaire I'm not going to spread how much money you're making we all know it you've told us we know what it is so don't go with the million thing okay all right I am not a millionaire um okay Ashley stclair claims well you will be now Trump's president Ashley St CLA claims she is a magga influencer and she claims that she's given birth to Elon M's 13th child did y'all know that he got another one walking around do you think it's okay that he's got 13 kids sure I mean I guess but it's with like random people that just pop out of nowhere and say hey you're my baby daddy it's not random people he has a mindset for conquest of planet Earth he views himself as a a kind of New Era Titan that is taking things over and part of that in his mind is the plunder the repopulation of the world through many different women of as many children as he can have well it's better than killing them okay all right Trump so far has freed a bunch of hostages that wasn't even on our list to talk about um let's see remember the one when he when Britney Griner got released um and it was supposed to be U Mark Fogle the history teacher he got left behind he was released this last week there were six F of Wayland he got released uh some from bellaro um there was there was another one from Russia Keith Seagal seagull from homus so thank God for Trump he's getting those prisoners out yeah that's a great thing there are other things tied to that though like what does that do to our relationship with Russia as we're about to come into this era where Pete Heth is going out and giving speeches that are basically like well uh I don't think Ukraine can ever be part of NATO and Russia gets everything okay that guy's a [ __ ] idiot period and no we love him dad and I just said we loved him but that's your opinion oh my God it's not just my opinion every [ __ ] Republican is saying this guy made the the nicest terms that they're using is he made a rookie mistake in giving away our negotiating position publicly at a goddamn press conference that's just stupidity um the USA that organization that group that needs to be a whole next topic for next week there is so much stuff that they are they're getting out of that that was corruption such as um let's see there were some Hollywood celebs that were paid millions of dollars there was like six or seven of them just to go over and meet with zalinsky and shake his hand for a H Photo okay I'm talking millions of dollars five million for one 20 for another that's all in that Aid thing did you see spent 17 million to go to the Super Bowl with all of his cabinet good good for him so he can do it but no one else can he's president okay okay did you see the thing that Elon Musk found you're talking about that us Aid all the stuff did you see where he said there are people on the registry that have that are 150 years old that can't be right did you see that that was my own is that your best South African is that I'm getting I will get better at it that was my first attempt I didn't even know just happened but did you see that that he thought because there were people in the uh registration that were getting paid that were 150 years old he he took that to mean the system is broken when in actuality that is a a coding language thing that if a person comes up 150 years old you know there's an error in the code somewhere he didn't even understand how the code works in the system that he now has full access to and he's letting his 19-year-old Maga Buddies go through it and Purge people that are you said we needed new blood there you go there was also within that USA 10 million was spent on let's see how y'all like this transgender animal testing that a watch group uh said that they investigated um how they would inject these rats and dogs to see what kind of drug made them um transgender better and then they'd kill him I don't have information on that I'm against all was also involved in that that that will be a topic for next week listen I'm not you guys have this idea that we blindly support anything Democrats do that is not true I at this point hate the Democrats okay and then supposedly all the money that went to that Clint Clinton Foundation that was trickled down for Chelsea we don't know if that's true or not but we need to investigate that okay that her wedding was paid through that foundation and all that I don't but you but you don't want to investigate anything that Donald Trump or Elon Musk are doing money because they're elected that's right they're elected no Elon Musk Is Not Elected he is he is elected who no one appointed by the elected president of the United stes that is not an elected offici years that makes him elected for three years we just read it now was Jill Biden Jill Biden elected she cabinet cabinet meetings was Hunter Biden elected was Obama elected to be president when he was behind the scenes for the last four years so get off that must stuffff I'm not listening to that none of those people we're we're going to get to this this is one of our topics is must you had fouchy you had Joe Biden none of them were elected what is it going to take for four years we will get is it gonna take you guys like losing Social Security and we and is it I think it will I think you will understand when what you're talking about when you start losing the things that you hold dear hang we're going to have all these same arguments when we get into the topics mom please finish the ditties my ditties are done my Diddy might be so mean so angry so enraged you go from the victim to wielding guilt as a weapon to Pure rage I love it in people think I you I just tell the truth if that's guilting okay I tell you the truth so boring what you all right Dad no you're boring the [ __ ] out of me I'm done with my dides go ahead okay can we maybe get Dad's head in the frame sure that's there's just two eyes peeking up in the bottom right corner of your guys okay thank you our first topic is Elon Musk in the Oval Office this week Elon Musk and his four-year-old son xae axi I commonly known as lilx visited the Oval Office for a meeting with President Donald Trump the stated purpose of the meeting was to discuss musk's role in leading a newly established Department of government efficiency or Doge or dog as I call it focusing on plans to reduce the federal Workforce and streamline government operations but it looked much more like musk's purpose during the meeting was to show reporters that he has more power than Donald Trump during the meeting not only did musk take Center Stage speaking with reporters directly while a dejected Trump slumped over the Resolute desk just out of musk's Spotlight musk's son Lil X also wiped boogers on the historic Resolute desk and at one point leaned over to Trump and whispered to him audibly you're not the president you need to go away I want you to shush your mouth one of musk's standout moments from uh the event came when he looked into the cameras and said quote the people voted for a major government reform and that's what people are going to get the iron talk that louder say that louder the people voted for major government reform and that's what the people are going to get the irony is that musk is not an elected official and no one voted for him to hold any position in the United States government and now he is on equal footing some even say higher fo footing I am one of them than the president he is controlling our government now Mom where do you think uh Elon musk's four-year-old child heard the idea that Trump is not the president we all know this okay number one the kid should not have been in that office I had to go look on different like Instagram Tik toks and and Google and the I did I watched it in person I watched it no not in person live on TV okay and I saw the little kid doing stuff like that I was like wait a minute what's that mean and then I saw his little lips move and it meant hush up be quiet he was telling Trump to be quiet he told him at one point you're not the president you need to go away no this is a four-year-old child where do you think that is getting that idea yeah it well it had to be from his dad probably correct and but Trump is the president musk is not the kid should not have been there wiping boogers on the desk come on you have the most the richest man in the world is clearly telling his son that guy's not the president I am somay you're gonna get it all they might split let's make a uh prediction they might split the Sheets if Trump has enough of him he'll say the sheet that was my next question that might happen and you think it will it might how long do you think it'll take for musk to get kicked out of this maybe a year as he gets the job done and now let me ask you this you think he may get kicked out that relationship May sour and then Trump says [ __ ] you you're out of here Elon Musk is installing hundreds potentially thousands of employees at these various government agencies he's kicking out the old people putting his 19-year-old coders in there so once they get everything straightened out you don't need them anymore they have everything no they don't they have access to your social security number all of your medical record give me a [ __ ] break everybody does anyway okay I don't think hell I can name I can name you 10 people in Edmond Oklahoma that have access to my social security number that I didn't give permission to okay so that doesn't bother you but this is I'm looking more at like the collapse of these systems these agencies that's what needs to happen if Trump says Elon Musk you're out and then he tells his loyalists I want everybody that worked with musk that he brought into to this Administration also out you're looking at just removing people cuz he's firing the people who run these agencies now he's replacing them with his musk I don't think he's replacing them with his people he is uh downsizing our government he is making it more slim he's not replacing them he's removing him he's removing him I don't think he's replacing with his people other than some of the people to come in to help with decoding and getting that information out of those computers that have been up like federal agencies and federal jobs are Beyond like what's just in the White House you understand that right like there's reports of [ __ ] Park Rangers who have worked for the national forest system for 25 years being [ __ ] canned yeah you understand that right yeah you don't need them let's let's you don't need them let's move on to this next topic because it's Germaine to this it's it kind of leads right into it and there's we have two topics I wrote down a bunch of topics let me just read both of these and then I'll ask questions about all of them okay all right cuz I think it is uh it's what we're talking about this week a significant administrative error led to the firing of numerous experts responsible for overseeing the United States nuclear Arsenal Elon musk's Department what's he saying he's slashing down like he's sleeping I'm not letting people see that go ahead okay Elon mus Department of government efficiency terminated between 300 and 400 employees from the national nuclear Security Administration the agency tasked with managing the nation's nuclear weapon stockpile Doge Personnel were apparently unaware of the critical roles these individuals played in National Security before firing them the energy Department moved swiftly to reverse some of the firings attempting to recall affected employees however challenges persist as many of these positions require high level security clearances and extensive training making rehiring a complex process also Trump hates veterans Trump and musk have initiated significant reductions in the federal Workforce directly impacting services for military veterans over 9500 Federal employees have been fired with the Department of Veterans Affairs among the most affected agencies losing approximately a thousand employees including researchers focused on critical areas such as cancer treatment opioid addiction Prosthetics and burn pit exposure additionally Doge has been scrutinizing federal government programs with expired funding authorizations labeling them as zombie programs this includes veterans healthc care services which continue to receive annual budget allocations despite laps organizational authorizations the potential cuts to these programs have raised concerns about the future of veteran services so doesn't even make sense uh here how does that not make sense you're talking about 9500 people yep in a corrupt veterans organization that needed to be fired do you know how many millions of people work for the VA how many probably two or three million let's see look it up I'm going to right now see how close you are she could be 500 vet Veterans Administration people are nothing but dead weight anyway they're trying to Slimline it SL it whatever it's called how many do you think it was DED at least a million or two 450,000 you're a little inflated half a million so you're 9500 people significant all right um well they're not insignificant because again signicant this is going to affect things including people researching cancer treatment opioid addiction Prosthetics and burn pit exp right right right right so for somebody who said that he loved veterans and that is something that is personally and he does that's why they can go to a public hospital if they want to don't have to wait in line at the ba but of all the things that you can cut all the things of all the things c500 dead beats okay out of a half a million people doesn't mean Jack so you share a similar opinion with Trump I guess that veterans are meaningless and don't deserve or tax money or people researching their problem Trump that veterans are important and they need the opportunity to go to a public hospital if they can't get into the VA because the VA so backed up with bureaucracy okay 9500 [ __ ] dead beats that work there out of a half a million doesn't mean [ __ ] I'll Grant you this then it's a good idea to fire people helping veterans but let me ask you this is it a good idea to they don't help veterans they hurt them all right let me ask you this 9500 people hurt veterans they don't help let me ask you this do you think the three to 400 people that got fired to oversee our nuclear stockpile you think that's a good idea yes okay why is that because they don't do [ __ ] either they literally oversee the safety of the American nuclear stockpile okay let me talk for for a second no no no hang on a minute hang on a minute mom do you think it's a good idea to fire the people overseeing our nuclear stockpile I didn't even know anything about that okay well that's happening that happened this week yeah it will be let's get back to the veterans people no okay okay veterans go to Veterans and then we we have to visit this nuclear stock pile thing it's wild to me dad that you're just like whatever the people running our nuclear weapons program don't do [ __ ] it's like they are theying for the dangerous planet mom and dad are watching I fa to understand you two you two couldn't find your way out of your backyard mom and dad are watching [ __ ] Newsmax they are watching like now the White House on Instagram you know anything that they put out mom and dad believe they have been drifted they cannot comprehend that that's not real news so of course they're going to believe everything all the statistics and all the numbers they believe all of it of course your stuff's all real news we have he's in a you let me ask you this do you think there's objective truth like that there are objectively things happening independent of your attitude or my attitude about them no okay what what does that mean so then you think everything is subjective what's happening on our side is real okay what's happening on your side is make believe [ __ ] okay you think the truth could be somewhere in the middle that neither of these Outlets are telling the exact truth no all right all right sometimes it goes to experience too remember we've talked about experience we've talked about who's younger who's older when your father was uh honorably discharged down of the Air Force a doctor came right to his face after a hearing exam and said you will have probably total hearing loss as you age due to the fact that you were worked on the B52 bombers here for like a year and a half you will not be able to hear as you get older well we know that story he can't hear Jack ship okay we went to the VA downtown um did a hearing test he failed miserably we were trying to get you know some disability because it happened during the time he was in the Air Force we were told to try try to go do that by several Young Veterans so we went to do that it came back and said they said no due to the fact it wasn't written on paper it was only verbal so from there we got a person called a VA not a counselor it's the person that takes your case over yeah she never would pick up the phone worthless is tits on a board Pig worthless as tits on a board Pig there you go needs to be fired she never would pick up the phone I texted I emailed I called like five times a week no response finally the third week she called me back said I'm so sorry I've been sick that happened three different times that she was never in the office always sick did you eventually get the benefit what did you eventually get the benefits no not yet I had to get an attorney to move forward because our VA counselor that was assigned to us wouldn't help us was never there yeah that's true that's experence I'm not saying there's not problems with the system but I I personally don't think the answer is getting rid of people in that system you probably need more in fact um yeah Mom I don't know where you went but I wanted to talk to you about these the people that got fired that run the nuclear program in the United States do you think it's a good idea go ahead I'm listening I just asked you do you think that it's a good idea for Elon Musk to fire or to even have any oversight whatsoever uh on the people who run our nuclear stockpile yes no I don't think that's a good idea but I didn't hear about it I need to research that before I say anymore all right do you believe that I research these topics before writing yes the things about them so do you believe what I'm saying is true yes no dad you don't you don't think anybody's been fired no I think they've been fired but what you're telling me I need to know you know would would we get rid of 10 people out of 600,000 no um 300 to 400 people let me see I'll Google how many people work at this organization as well isn't isn't all of this I think I saw like AOC said some [ __ ] about this how all these billionaires that are in charge now they're trying to find $4 trillion dollar in budget cuts from different federal agencies so they can fund their own bill that gives them tax breaks that's what this is all about exactly no AOC no no they're they're [ __ ] over the American public to make more money stop right there so you think AOC smart yeah you do how [ __ ] ignorant are you J I I don't like I'm not a Democrat I'm not a republican I really [ __ ] hate politics but if I had to vote for somebody and and throw a name in the ring it's her bartender she's the only person that I would even want in our government still at this point you talk about a governmental Purge everybody but her in my opinion yeah she's like uncorruptible right now like really she really gives a [ __ ] the most corrupt pieces of [ __ ] in government do you think Trump is corrup you don't think Trump is corrupt he's got the world's richest man holding Court in the Oval Office as his kid wipes boogers on the Resolute desk don't think he's corrupt huh all right well I think he's actually 10 times smarter than musk who you think Trump is smarter than musk absolutely musk is controlling him like a puppet no he's not your did you it's not my opinion I saw it on [ __ ] TV Elon Musk is standing in the Oval Office while Donald Trump is slumped down in his chair and Elon Musk is delivering the speech while his [ __ ] child tells Donald Trump you're not the president no he was letting him talk Trump is 10 times smarter than M okay wow well what is what is clear to I think at least some people watching what is going on in our government is that musk and the billionaires control it completely now Donald Trump is not going into these agencies and firing people he's just letting Elon Musk do whatever the [ __ ] he wants no he's letting him go through those records to see how corrupt our government really is you didn't understand what I just said they are trying to cut trillion dollars so they can have their own [ __ ] bill funded to continue to reap benefits from our tax system you why Pocahontas is out there going because she makes how much with her uh job maybe $250,000 a year from Harvard for being an Indian but she's not an Indian we all know that you're mad at $250,000 a year Elon Musk is getting paid billions of dollars it's all relevant but wait she's it's allev she's up there so they're not she makes AOC look like an idiot so they won she's stupid as [ __ ] she doesn't want them to go in those records and find out instead of 250 a year she's now up to like 10 million how did that happen your local car Donald Trump is up to seven billion Elon Musk is the richest man in the world how did that happen why do you give a [ __ ] you guys voted for a guy that is stealing your [ __ ] money he worked hard made companies and businesses you know got it as fraud through other people in our government what the [ __ ] what if you want to pit people against each other for working the most Elon Musk has done very little he was born a [ __ ] billionaire oh God follow him around every day and you know what he does right that's why he sleeps on the White House floor in there he sleeps on the floor so we can pop up and go to work every day it's so funny you guys are boohoo you ass no as he is finding all the corruption in the government and and giving money back to the American people and you guys are booing the most this is the most corrupt government we have ever had and they are not giving us money he's finding it out right now in all those records over the last so many years where where's all this money gone to transgendered pets my God uh they they they paid one man a million dollars just to stand there and watch uh stuff at a mailing facility wrapped up and tied correct a million dollars that was his job do you think that's right or government should give that man a million dollars of course there is extensive government corruption there's extensive over spending you don't want to clear you want it to keep going no I do want it cleared up I don't think the richest man in the world your pie hole and watch it happen I don't think the richest man in the world has any intention well that's your opinion it's not my opinion we have watched we have a historical record what he did at Twitter he took one of the biggest social media Platforms in the world well then neither does yours well then we don't have to talk about it I guess we don't that's what the show is though it's called the necess NE conversation that's why we need to talk about these things this conversation isn't necessary it is you're going to be wrong of this show is that I just always all right I always thought that I really always thought that you guys were like smarter than this we're smarter than I remember being little I remember being little and I thought that I really thought dad like you were one of the smartest people I knew and then I watch this [ __ ] transpire and I see you believing everything that you read in the news and believing in a person like Elon Musk and Donald Trump I don't think they believe in I just I just don't understand it I guess I don't understand because if I may this is my kind of personal belief but also I think I've had some objective observations about how you guys have kind of taken this turn and whatever this is what I think it is I think both of you and I think the stems back to a a childhood kind of psychology that developed in dad but I think you're both very adversarial in terms of how you view the world how you live your lives there's always an enemy there's always somebody you got to be mad at who's in the wrong um even now you're shaking your head mom because you're aligning me now as the enemy because I'm saying this but Trump don't put words in my mouth I'm not but I can see your reactions and I I think I know you for some amount of years at this point I know what's going through your head when you look like that fine [ __ ] you you're you're saying to yourself and then you invalidate anything I say instead of hearing it just hear what I got to say You can disagree with it listening I think you guys and it comes from how dad grew up primarily in an environment that uh was adversarial in nature and so he viewed the world that way it's us against them you guys get married now it's you too as a team against the world we then come into the picture it's the family unit against the world Haley and I move away we become liberal we are now the enemy we are outside of that familyit unit so you view us as adversaries and I think the reason Trump appeals to you so much is because that's how he presents everything it's this is the bad person we're the good person I'm Jesus Christ return to Earth I will save everyone and everyone else is a piece of [ __ ] and that keys right into your guys psychology and so you roll with it I think the actual politics of it don't really matter that much to you any enemy that Trump says is an enemy you will immediately say yep that's my enemy [ __ ] them and that is kind of what fuels your support of him tell correct me if I'm wrong I don't see it like that at all I see it as we raised you guys the best we could you had the same thinking kind of as we did growing up I thought I don't know about that I thought then you mve out and all of a sudden you don't think like we do anymore yeah and it's because of the environment that you went into Chad you went into the state of California that is the worst state the world the enemy well it's one of I I'm not saying California is an enemy to me but worst state in the world it's a terrible state in in what ways people are fleeing to get out of there see everybody's fleeing California at this point I'm just gonna google wor I think no just I'm gonna tell you why I'm this way and I think it was so dad always raised me I played baseball with boys when I wanted to cut my hair short you let me anything that I asked you guys pretty much nurtured and I think that you raised me to be very independent to be confident and because I was able to freethink this is how I turned out because I have empathy for others I am myself I encourage people to be themselves so inadvertently you kind of created this little baby Monster feminist and I don't know if you are cognizant of that but you raised me to be independent you raised me to be this way and I don't know if it manifested how you wanted it to but you kind of built this you made me it's Jack Nicholson in the Joker in Batman sorry um let me just back to your point mom before we get into what Haley just said you said California is the worst state in the world I'm not sure what that means but I have now come upon a top 10 list of the top 10 worst states to live in in these United States of America this is based on uh different measures of Health Care education economy infrastructure and opportunity fiscal stability crime and Corrections and the natural environment of these states these are the top 10 worst states California has to be in there what's that California has to be in there wait bottom I need to go here here we go Virginia Connecticut no these are the best states um Missouri West Virginia am I looking at this right sorry Louisiana Mississippi California is number three what do you think is number four Texas Oklahoma Alabama New Mexico Arkansas South Carolina Arizona and Kansas is number 23 right in the middle California is what the third worst state yeah did you think it wouldn't be uh no I mean it has its problems obviously we've just witnessed devastating fires mudslides Etc that's your mindset now you can have mudslides fires earthquakes all kinds of stuff but that's the best state and you love it no I don't think it's the best I like living here I like my life here I I don't think it's the best I don't think America is necessarily in quotes the best country when you take all those factors into account it's probably some Scandinavian country it's probably Sweden or something Denmark I don't [ __ ] know but it ain't here we all know that especially with the current political climate but I want to go back to what Haley was just saying about how you raised her to be this person do you believe that I guess to go for what she wanted and be independent and to be happy but I don't there were times when four years in Colorado changed okay Dad said the four years in Colorado changed you but I do I and I do think some of that is true but like when you were smaller you were so um what's the word you were just so strong willed mindset I want this this this and this and if you didn't get it all hell broke loose that's why you probably had 50 pairs of Doc Martins is this not true I'm not lying about this well that's my tism that's like a that's your what strange my special interest yeah Dad has strange too as I'm sure you're aware yeah your dad's got the Asbergers thing going on I do believe I've always been I've always been rebellious I've always been defiant and I I think that that was somewhat nurtured I mean you guys he put me in [ __ ] boys baseball I didn't your father did I you guys are hard tennis dad doesn't like it when uh different genders or transgender people get to do athletics but he had a girl playing boy Sports yes he did because Haley was really really good yeah yeah all right so you don't believe that you created uh through parenting this woman you see before you color Colorado maybe part of it we corrup yes okay um well that was kind of a simmer down a little look into parenting and if you believe you've been successful parents or not yeah did you guys consider yourself successful parents that you turned out two liard kids are you [ __ ] me you answered that you had to ask that question yeah whether we're successful parents no whether you consider yourselves successful or not whether you think you did a good job or not I did the very [ __ ] best job I ever could do with both of you of course I'm not suggesting you did anything less I'm saying in your mind and I'm not talking about obviously Haley and I are financially stable living relatively happy lives and a crumbling democracy but do you think like our ideologies the fact that we don't believe really anything about the world that you believe do you consider that to be a success or a failure or nothing it's just how it is I just can't believe it it's not a failure it's not a success unless you're happy with all of that but I I still can't believe it I have friends call me from high school asking if I'm okay I say what first of all yeah they're asking play the nonsense I'm talking ask him how long has he lived in California question 2 years or something like that more than that more than that I came out here in 1995 you Liv California longer than anywhere else that's right 30 years I think yeah but no I have people call therefore that state has developed you into what you are not Mom and I but don't you think my desire to come to the state was because there was probably an inherent version of me waiting to come out you wanted to go to USC's film school it's the only reason you went to that state of course but then I wanted to work in the entertainment industry you have to live in LA for that oh you do yes yeah you still maybe not now but like 30 years ago maybe not now because they've done so [ __ ] well that's why Hollywood's B on its last [ __ ] leg okay what as you literally have a TV pumping [ __ ] into your brain 24 hours a day yeah a Hollywood you don't consider Newsmax part of Hollywood no part of the entertainment industry no a for-profit news channnel just like MSNBC right okay okay not part of the entry wow interesting got nothing to do with [ __ ] Hollywood I have another friend that we speak uh we're pretty close from high school she's always both of us are saying um where did we go wrong I said I don't think we went wrong I said they just don't believe what we believe anymore they went to Lial States they don't believe what we believe in anymore they live in that filth M that I don't how you all went you spent four years getting indoctrinated I don't understand how y'all went to one side like that where do you want to go back we spent four years getting indoctrinated you had 18 years to indoctrinate both of us and you [ __ ] that up that ain't very many who [ __ ] we did we did yeah you're 50 years old almost don't add those [ __ ] years just yet [ __ ] Hay's over 30 you guys um you guys grew up Republican you grew up with racist parents and I think it carried on and I think at some point what you cannot say you cannot say they weren't no remember you're gonna be you're gonna end up with some racist kids before it's over our parents were not racist my God you see you'll see we had my dad had a lot of friends that were different color than he was they were at our house I definitely remember Nanny saying some [ __ ] that was like one guy guy yeah Manny definitely said some [ __ ] that is racist definitely were not I have photos of nanny in blackace for Halloween there oh that's racist yeah back in the day that was for fun nobody even said that was okay all right anyway okay face Fu you grew up very conservative there there's there's a shift I think that happened with potentially My Generation as parents where we kind of started to recognize that like you don't have to do the [ __ ] that your parents did maybe these things that psychologically [ __ ] you up you don't have to pass on to your kids and like all these newer generations of children you know they're more empathetic they your kids are going to learn your kids are going to learn the hard way like I did it's all going to come to root see that hard way let me ask you that you just listen to what I'm saying and in about two years you come to me and tell me if I'm wrong dad let me ask you what you meant by that what is the hard way in your mind what what lesson did you learn the hard way racism against me okay so this is back to your days in the Air Force ERS want to be racist on me I hate your [ __ ] guts and that's what I'm talking about that's the adversarial identity that you have had for the entire lifetime I've LED get a big dose of it from not because I believe in Dei I believe in reparations I believe that systemic racism exists and I believe that some people need a [ __ ] head start start I don't I'm not mad about any of that and neither are my children like we recog the world we live in the world that it's always been we we understand these things yeah it's to understand these things till it happens to you it's already happening to women understand it pregnant women are having rights taken away in the workplace disabled people are having their rights taken away in the workplace like you don't know what I'm talking about I can't even get a [ __ ] abortion in my state if I want to I'm literally being stripped of my [ __ ] rights as a woman right now you can go next door door can't it's going to be a federal [ __ ] law in fact a woman got an abortion a woman a woman in the state of Louisiana I'm sorry a child in the state of Louisiana needed an abortion and they said no so she traveled to [ __ ] New York City got one came back they are now trying the doctor that gave her the abortion for [ __ ] murder trying to put her imprison and the mother of the child so say that you can just go next door and get one is [ __ ] Bullit [ __ ] I hope you would never need one and if you did I've always told you I'll take the baby and you know that that is not that's not my choice I don't know if I could ever get an abortion I don't it's not like I love them could you imagine you have another kid and you're like [ __ ] it Mom I'm taking you up on that you guys raise it now that's a TV show I would but here's the thing here's the thing I don't know that I would ever get one I find abortions to be it's a very touchy subject it's not something I'd ever want want to do however not my [ __ ] choice to make for someone just because I wouldn't do it doesn't mean someone else shouldn't be able to it's not my [ __ ] Choice it is if the majority thinks it is the majority does think it is no it's not majority of people what if the majority of people thought that you shouldn't get your [ __ ] diabetic medication then I wouldn't get it not F and that's okay we'd have to travel to the state where it was it's the way it goes man you got to deal you got don't legislate people's [ __ ] medicine and body choices you don't legislate that that's not a political [ __ ] [ __ ] issue it's just a civil right and you confuse the two we all have civil Fu right over and if you can't you [ __ ] die all right speaking of majorities we have one more topic I want to get to I had some other ones too A lot happened this week but we only have time for one more and I want it to be this see like you're afraid you're afraid of everything I'm not afraid to die if I can't get my medicine tough [ __ ] okay let Chad talk that's my problem it's not yours speaking of majorities in a recent poll 60% of Americans feel that Trump has not kept his promise to lower prices during his campaign will during his campaign Trump said when I win I will immediately chickens and eggs when I win I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one it has far beyond day one since taking office in January eggs have increased in price by 15.2% the largest single month increase in June uh the largest single month increase sorry since June 2015 not just egg you talking about it's not just eggs milk is up 9 cents a gallon beef prices have gone up 2.8% electricity has increased by 1.7% gasoline has increased by 1.8% airline tickets have increased by 3.2% and general inflation has increased by half a perc it happened in January which he has no control over no that's this is since the day he took office these are the numbers January what what day was that January 20th yeah yeah three weeks he promised look I'm not saying that we should no blow it out your ass I'm not expecting that a person could do this he was the one who made the [ __ ] promise he himself said on day one prices will go down that is lie he did not do that know we were going to have bird flu he didn't know America not using straws bird flu affects eggs so let's take eggs out of the equation and let me just tell you all the other things hear milk is up 9 cents a gallon beef prices have gone up 2.8% electricity is 1% and you're going to be wrong and I don't want to hear you any said on day one prices would go down that has not happened so my question to you his mom how long do you give him I don't know I don't know well long enough to dig our hole out of where we were with Biden and his wonderful dyamics that never happened Biden's not President Biden's not President Biden's not President we do have to say that how long we don't have to how long do you give Trump we January he handed us over a [ __ ] hang hang on Trump said Day One prices come down four weeks it got worse huh okay go ahead Trump campaigned saying Day One prices will come down that has not happened we're three weeks in it's only gone up how long do you give him before you accept that that was a lie to get your vote you know how long I'm gonna give him forever all right I think we could be in another great depression and they'd still be apologizing I think so too oh Jesus and that's gonna happen we're gonna hit like another Great Depression like the homelessness in this country is going to be so much worse the prices are going to sore we are literally going to hit another depression I don't think we'll hit a depression but I think it might take some time and there are two things that he said he would tell us and he hasn't I'm a little bit upset about that what are they the President Kennedy assassination I want to know who did it and um the drones he said he would tell us like on day two something about the drones what they were all about some new information has come out about he Hask it was LBJ what it was LBJ and the CIA that's who killed that Lyon Johnson put the hit out on him and then the driver supposedly in that film you can kind of see his driver turned with a gun possibly and did the last bullet in him because his head went back CIA LBJ killed K I think the CIA definitely was involved in it and right now Trump is cleaning house at the CIA firing people left and right and those ain't the guys you want to be firing I'm sorry to say it those are the guys who do these types of things hopefully Trump gets a bullet in the head and who knows were they tied to another country were they T tied to the cartel were they tied to Cuba Cuba Russia we don't know but you're right that was another lie of trump during the campaign not Li as well as the drones what do you mean release it he already did no he hasn't it's not out there yet there's enough information that's leaked out already that it's there he has not released it yet yeah Dad you're saying that he did keep the promise to release all the information on the JFK assassination he's released enough that everybody knows what happened he hasn't released anything oh yes he okay wait a minute so do you we're switching gear so do you think we were such bad parents Haley and Chad I think you did your best have turned out much better you know what you are what you are tough [ __ ] I don't I don't look at it that way I think I I guys having having deal with nobody has said that you guys just I think you did your best I think both of you grew up S that were're not ideal you know what don't look at him don't look at him talk to me nobody said you were bad parents yeah yeah did I'm not I neither of ever said that yeah you did okay I think you guys did the best you could as all parents do that's enough we turned out you know fine is everybody has issues I've heard all I'm gonna hear on it okay bye I mean I I I think I said I think I said that you raised me to be strong and independent yeah which is a compliment no it's not okay okay what would you rather have her be weak and subservient that's what you you were trying to go for Dad he's out he's not talking anymore he what' he get pissed at now I don't even understand his anger here well for one thing it's one o'clock it doesn't matter we have nowhere to go it's one o' it's one o'clock we used to go to shiny now but we don't go to him until later yeah okay well we can end got Costco I got my Costco membership today oh good I Dr yeah no more Target yep hey how of the egg prices affected you you use them in baking right yeah we order um like four to five cases at least twice a week my grocery bill is up by about $500 a week wow from what though What's the total bill I would have to look at them they vary percentage wise what's an extra $500 to you I don't know is it like an increase of 10% 20% um let me think I do I order about I'm trying to think like a week's worth of groceries I order twice and each one is like 2500 so about five grand a week is what 10% increase now yeah okay you're gonna have to do like what was it the Waffle House or Pancake House where they're charging now if you order an egg they're charging you a dollar more per egg I have had to change my pricing system yes yeah I have to go vegan you can not blame that on Trump not C you jack [ __ ] you have to blame that I don't blame the bird flu on Trump but again he said I will lower prices on day one that has not happened we're three weeks in prices have only gone up across the board shouldn't be listening to us what's he doing he's doing the victimization play now yes what's he doing he saying he said we're bad parents they should not listen to us had his little nobody said that Jesus yeah and nobody said it that that's also the thing as I'm saying you guys need an adversary and right now it's us every week it's us when we have these conversations because you got to fight somebody if you don't have an enemy there's like no goal in life I guess did we fight last week no we did not and people I do think like that so should we do another one of those uh no I mean I think these things that we're talking about are important the whole point of this podcast yes is that there are I believe families all over this country that are just like ours where the parents are super Maga and just blind to reality and the kids are not some variety of that you know I think we might be uh slightly different because you've got two Gen X kids that are like [ __ ] everything [ __ ] both sides [ __ ] the whole system I think more likely you're seeing like younger boom parents with older Millennial kids wait are you Millennial are you Gen X hay I'm like the ass end of millennial you're the oldest Millennial on Earth that's a good sitcom um anyways I'm I'm just saying I think there are different versions of this where the parents are magot and the kids are everything from like you know uh super liberal drinking the Democrat Kool-Aid to like kind of what me and Haley are which is like just anti everything antiestablishment I think like these conversations are important because especially in our family for so long we didn't talk at all and it was because of politics so I think giving us an hour a week to just like let the steam out is uh it is necessary for us to be able to talk to each other all right yes thanks for agreeing or not agreeing whatever you like there um that wraps up our show thank you for joining us if you have questions send them in a one minute or shorter audio or video video format to the necessary conversation pod gmail.com I go through them all play the best ones here before we go dad's Meandering around in the background there I see him dad I love you we are talking to you love everybody God damn [ __ ] he said I love everybody [ __ ] for real mom I love you too welcome to my world this is going to be my day today oh God sorry Haley I love you as well thanks for ring him up yeah Mom I love you dad I love you Chad I love you serious Chad and Haley I love you help um I love you and all of my all of my bakery crew saw your videos that you sent me and they're like is she on Tik Tok though I said yeah you got to post that on Tik Tok on Tik Tok and hashtag yes okay I for yeah I can put it on my Tik Tok on my they were all laughing they were laughing to tears which ones all of them the butterfly the butterfly was terrifying to me I was just like I don't know what this is this is not good that was Gwen Stefani singing the uh bouquet song or something and I didn't know that song that's weird I didn't know that song Just Tick Tock your weird you know what I should have done for the police chase um I Drove All Night just to get to you you know that song yeah I don't know if I do it's it's Selene Dion yeah oh I know that I know it to get to you I thought I did pretty good and that Harper in the background her little head I was like oh my God that was hilarious I didn't notice that until I zoomed in and looked at the clip yeah post all that to Instagram as well to the necessary conversation Instagram as reals not just in stories oh on Instagram yeah put them in the ma grid what can all of our listeners expect to see from you on the necessary conversation Instagram this week you talking to me yes I just post whatever it doesn't matter yeah well it's a lot of shiny pictures with like Lee Greenwood songs and [ __ ] make reals start like making reals like clip together videos and like do voiceovers and [ __ ] Chad used to do that for me and sent him to me but he hasn't in a long time I just don't have time to do it do it I've got to learn how to do it I guess okay yeah you'll have fun okay all right thank you everyone for joining us we will see you next week my God bye