Keeping Track Of Trumps Trials

America is deeply divided there are only two sides to every issue and there is no interest in finding common ground not even with members of your own family but as the 2024 presidential election Looms on the horizon there has never been a more important time to have the necessary conversation welcome to the necessary conversation Mom and Dad do you have a TV going in the background there oh yeah yes I'm sorry I forgot you just not have that going on be very it' be a lot easier to hear you both uh thanks for joining us of course this is a podcast where myself Chad culton and my sister Haley Pope talk to our parents Bob and Mary Lou about all of the big political issues that have gone on this week we have opposing views of course my sister and I are very liberal and our parents are what are you guys what do you consider yourselves that's a question Bob that's a question didn't say Dad Dad what do you consider your what is going on I consider myself anti-communist 100% American and uh the bullets are going to start flying soon okay okay Mom what do you consider yourself I am an American I'm a republican okay and I am for Donald Trump all right and dad said today he will not speak unless he has asked a question directly at him okay dad first question to you directly at you uh 282 days ago you said there would be a nuclear weapon used in Ukraine within 30 to 40 days again it's 282 days past that prediction has your prediction failed no it has not in fact wait a minute I lost our I lost the picture where do I go try Zoom well if I hit the X I'm gonna ex The Sound Don't Hit Zoom hit the zoom button where right above it godamn there we go I got it all right Dad has your prediction failed no I am not wrong in fact the Russians fired a test missile yesterday okay well nuclear oh by the way nuclear yeah but that could be just Bluster just showing off whatever no they're gonna they're going to ex they're going to exterminate the Ukraine all right well speaking of Russia and Ukraine we like to start our shows off with questions from listeners and we have one today about Russia and Ukraine are you ready yes Dad are you ready yes yeah are you ready yeah I'm always ready here we go Hi culan family uh my name is Josh um I'm a artist and art professor in Houston Texas um the question I have really relates to to Bob and Mary Lou last episode I couldn't help but notice um especially with the ending that both of y'all were focused on picking a side in the Israeli and Palestinian conflict in Gaza so under that logic I kind of noticed that when it came to Ukraine and Russia y'all weren't willing to pick a side in fact you dance around the question so this is me giving you a chance to answer that question between Russia and the Ukraine which side do you choose um and if you refuse to answer this question or just fail to um according to Bob's rules of this he should just die immediately um anyway have fun with that hope you all will listen to the podcast for a long time bye so there you have it so he he said Bob should die if we don't answer no dad said that last week dad said if you don't choose a side you should die call me you gonna call me first uh sure Dad what do you I'll pick it I'll pick I'll pick a [ __ ] side Russia interesting so kill all the ukrainians okay kill all the ukrainians and you want then so you're allying with an enemy the United States no the enemy of the United States is China it's not Russia it is Russ Russia is G Russia in the ultimate end Russia will be our Ally and I choose Russia over Ukraine 1,000% and your and your little artist teacher in Houston can go take his liberal ass and shove his head right up inside it because he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground or what's going on in the [ __ ] world okay Mom story all right mom who do you side with wow okay that wasn't very nice but um in the beginning I was with Ukraine um but now what's happened what's happened uh with Biden and taking bribes and now I see how that's all how that is all intertwined I'm leaning more toward Russia there but of course in Israel I Stand All the Way fully with Israel well we're going to check in on that war at the end of today's show so you have a a little time to discuss that in more detail but I find it very surprising that you're both aligning with a sworn longtime enemy of the United States well I don't uh actually that's not true either okay where are you I can't Russia was our best ally less than 50 years ago 50 years is a long time oh yeah and we'll have another 50 of them standing beside us get ready the reason in the beginning the reason we cited with Ukraine of course is because Russ if Russia goes in there and takes all that down then they won't stop and they'll go on to the next country that's what we were worried about but the ukrainians are evil they have stolen all of that [ __ ] money they've enriched zalinski and they ain't worth saving do you think that Vladimir Putin steals money from his citizens his absolutely absolutely he'll kill them if they get out of line right but you're down with that I'm down with that do it I I am thinking Putin is dead and there is a body double in there I have been reading so much why haven't we brought this up I really think he died they said a couple weeks ago with a heart attack is anybody not reading this yeah you said that and I did Google this like last week or the week before and everything that I found said that this is a internet rumor from like 10 years ago that just resurfaced and it's been debunked a million times serious okay yeah H so okay uh thank you so much up to date on that I thought oh by the way by the way just because this little pricks from Houston doesn't make him smart he's a dumbass [ __ ] art teacher in Houston Texas okay I thought the question was good all he did was ask you a question that's almost that's almost absolutely [ __ ] ridiculous all I did was ask a question if you would like to be insulted by my dad after you ask a simple question you can put your question in a one minute or shorter audio format send it to next year you ain't some [ __ ] liberal or from East Coast or West Coast because anything you got to say is totally ignored by me because you're stupid you have no idea what that person's politics are you only know that Houston you're so full of [ __ ] I know exactly what his politic is all right if you would like smarter than that [ __ ] Okay you w if you would like to send your question to this show you just put it down in a one minute shorter audio format send it to the necessary conversation POD at gmail.com I go through them all and I play the best ones here and you get the reaction that you get just like this one apparently so we're going to move on now to our at hand we've got a lot of big topics to discuss the first one is kind of lengthy bear with me but I think this is worth doing because I want to dig into Trump's legal Saga I want to try and keep it straight he's involved in multiple trials all of them at different phases I'm just going to go through the information that is factual information about where each of these trials stand which ones have concluded how much money he owes to who etc etc and then I have some questions after this so again let me get through this this is kind of lengthy but we need all this information to then have a conversation about it so here we go hey by the way by the way this what happen to not not answer literally I'm like I'm about to read all this [ __ ] you have not been addressed argue I'm not g to argue about anything I just want everybody to notice that kitty the Republican is licking the hell out of me she loves it she loves it yeah Kitty is my parents for those who are only listening and not watching this on YouTube and she's a little Chihuahua who sits on the back of the couch and licks my dad's head as he is advocating for genocide across the world here we go Trump is currently involved in a hurricane of legal dilemmas more than any former president in the history of the country and all of them are playing out as he's running for re-election next year so here is a brief in quotes as brief as I could make this rundown of everything currently going on first a judge in New York is going to hear Trump himself explain on Monday under oath in a witness box why his company inflated the value of his assets when he was trying to secure loans second a judge in Colorado heard testimony this past week from January 6 2021 rally organizers and she's considering whether Trump engaged in an Insurrection against the US and thus should be disqualified from the presidential ballot in 2024 which is going to be a subject all its own in another segment here that we're going to do on today's show third a federal appeals court in Washington DC temporary furrows a uh limited gag order placed on Trump by the judge overseeing his forthcoming Federal election subversion trial another trial entirely fourth a federal judge in Florida might decide to postpone the federal criminal trial against Trump that she's overseeing the one regarding his treatment of classified material that was among other places kept in a bathroom at Mar Lago because his lawyers are overburdened this is the literal reason that she's like [ __ ] we may have to postpone this because his lawyers are doing too much [ __ ] in these other trials so now I'm just going to kind of go through a bunch of these other trials where they stand what their outcomes are so he continues to deny any wrongdoing in all legal matters he has pleaded not guilty in all of his criminal cases which which relate not just to the efforts to maintain to maintain president by overturning the 20120 election and his treatment of classified material after his presidency but also the hush money scheme that may have helped him win the White House in 2016 the Civil fraud trial unlike Trump's criminal indictments does not carry the danger of felony conviction in jail time but it could cost him some of his most prized possessions including Trump Tower there's a New York attorney general Leticia James brought this $250 million lawsuit September 22 alleging that Trump and his codefendants committed repeated committed repeated fraud and inflating assets on financial statements to get better terms on commercial real estate loans and insurance policies judge Arthur engeron has already ruled that Trump and his sons who gave testimony deflecting blame to accountants are liable for fraud for inflating the value of his golf courses hotels homes financial statements to secure these loans a higher Court in New York rejected aanka Trump's attempt to delay uh the order for her to to testify based on the fact that her children were in school that's where all those stand let's move on now to some that have concluded federal civil court in New York the eege Carol defamation lawsuit in May a federal jury in Manhattan found Trump did sexually abuse former advice columnist EEG Carrol in a luxury department store dressing room in the mid 90s awarded her about $5 million we have the Federal Criminal Court in DC 2020 election interference trial in August Trump was indicted by a Federal grand jury and arraigned in DC in a courtroom where he pleaded not guilty to charges related to January 6 in Insurrection the judge overseeing that case has set the start date for that trial is March 4th the day before super Tuesday Trump has asked Federal appeals court uh to remove the gag order prohibiting him from talking about the case and he's indicated that he's going to take the issue all the way to the Supreme Court uh in New York criminal court for the hush money payments Trump has been charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to his role in the hush money payments uh to given to stormmy Daniels that and many people believe helped him win the the presidency in the Georgia Criminal Court we have these efforts to overturn the election results The Fulton County district attorney is using racketeering violations to charge broad criminal conspiracy against Trump and 18 others in efforts to overturn Biden's victory in Georgia four of Trump's 18 codefendants have already pleaded guilty to avoid jail time and they are now agreeing to testify against Trump at later points in the trial we now move to Florida Federal Criminal Court for the uh classified material mishandling trial Trump has pleaded not guilty to 37 federal charges over his alleged mishandling of classified documents the investigation Center is on sensitive documents that Trump brought to marao and uh now we also have the Trump organization has been convicted of of criminal tax fraud this was uh in December the Trump organization got convicted by a New York jury of tax fraud Grand Larson and falsifying business records in what prosecutors say was a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities by rep and pay taxes on compensation provided to employees now we have all of this okay that's everything I've just said that is a lot question to Mom yes yes hello you think all of this is made up I don't think it's made up I think it doesn't matter I think that is their ditch effort to uh deflect off of Biden the crime family and what's going on with them and to keep Trump so busy that when one year from today we will elect him as our president by the way it's one year from today we are recording on November what the fifth so one year from Tuesday is one day from tomorrow so one day from today there will be no more by i i i there's no way any of that is going to stick it's like what no let's get Beyond if it's going to stick or not and you said it doesn't matter if you keep if you keep him off the ballot yeah we get to that later we will kill the Democrat we're gonna get to that later that's not what we're talking about what we're talking about right now we will kill the Democrats what we're talking about right now is Mom I asked you if you believe this is all made up you said it doesn't matter so you will then you believe this is true all of these charges are true no no those charges don't even make sense to me half of them they're making this [ __ ] up that one trial that he's in now with Leticia whatever her name is fat and black the only time she comes into into the courtroom is when it's a photo op day that one judge is in their smiling and waving to the CR it's all a I feel it's it all goes together it's a stunt it's a stunt to deflect what's happening and stupid all goes together but let me I'm I'm trying to get to the bottom of this do you think there is Merit to these charges okay so you think multiple States multiple federal judges multiple prosecutors multiple grand juries they're all grand juries grand juries are people selected no the grand juries are regular citizens that are put on a jury by the prosecutors and the def $5,000 in their [ __ ] back pocket yes so you believe all the jurors and these grand juries have been paid off by George Soros you believe none of these charges are real and it is all made up yes okay so you believe there is a grand conspiracy here that across multiple States multiple federal judges multiple Federal prosecutors what's that way to catch up douchebag yes I think that's exactly it fascinating is F black [ __ ] okay is this on your own accord or is it [ __ ] that you've been watching on whatever news source no this is 100% his [ __ ] his [ __ ] land at marago is worth more than $18 million the [ __ ] Banks did their own due diligence by the way hold this banks that do due diligence I've had a little experience with this okay working for Boon and everybody else uh they don't [ __ ] around if they can't make money they don't loan it to you every one every one of these son of a [ __ ] made a fortune so all this [ __ ] that fat black and stupid is trying to push up your nose and you're swalling it hook line and [ __ ] Sinker is 100% [ __ ] okay 100% what would would would you consider yourself what when you say fat black and stupid you are fat old white and no I'm not fat oh sorry I'm I'm old I'm white and I'm far more intelligent than any [ __ ] uh affirmative action person that's in power okay now you're they were all giv a job because they're fat stupid and black okay let me ask you this I'm not fat is Mom around she had to go but c i I have this one question and I I had take over I had to take over okay I'm gonna ask you about this mom I want to ask you this first you believe all these these charges are fake that this is just made up by these people to try and hinder Trump from becoming president and deflect from the Biden crime family why then would four of Trump's codefendants in the Georgia criminal case plead guilty so they don't go to jail yeah they've been paid or so that they won't go real crimes they're popping a BL because they know they don't have a chance in court with fat black and stupid okay so you believe every guilty plea and and a bunch of other people have played guilty around him in all these other cases too especially in the uh the financial fraud trial what's that he said to stay on a jail black and stupid are gonna make the decision go to the so you believe these people that were Trump loyalists know also that this is a giant conspiracy that none of this is real and they're like [ __ ] it we have to give into the conspiracy now 100 yes I do believe that I do there's no way any of this is going to stick there's no effing way and if they try to take his name yeah it's already sticking people are going to jail for it he he's not going to jail and if they try to take his name off any ballots oh my God we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that okay uh that is in fact our very next topic let's move on to it now Will trump be eliminated from the ballot in Colorado let me give the facts then we can discuss Trump might be facing even more legal trouble than we've already covered as witness testimony wrapped up last Friday in a 14th Amendment disqualification trial in Colorado setting the stage for historic ruling later this month the weeklong trial featured testimony from legal Scholars who explain the history of the Amendments insurrectionist ban US capital police officers who were wounded while fighting uh the prot Trump mob on January 6th organizers of the Trump rally that preceded the violence two house lawmakers and an expert on right-wing extremism closing argument are slated for November 15th and a ruling is expected soon after that the 14th Amendment ratified after the Civil War says us officials who take an oath to uphold the Constitution are banned from future office if they quote engaged in Insurrection but the Constitution doesn't say how to enforce the ban and has only been applied twice since 1919 which is why many experts view these challenges as a long shot Denver District Judge Sarah Wallace Who was appointed to the bench by Colorado's sitting Democratic governor will hear closing arguments on November 15th and issue uh ruling shortly after that no matter the outcome an appeal is expected the case is happening under a special state law that allows for expedited proceedings so any appeals are going to go directly to the Colorado Supreme Court all seven justices on the court are democratic appointees their decision then can be appealed to the US Supreme Court which of course has a conservative super majority including three justices who are appointed by Trump so all those Colorado people okay hait Ley do you think this has a shot at getting him removed from ballots in Colorado probably not but uh I mean the hope is that like other states will follow suit and then there's just even more [ __ ] litigation that he's wrapped up in like you cannot [ __ ] possibly run for president and win if you have all of these court cases that you're in like you're [ __ ] in them you cannot be the president yeah you can I mean hasn't been convicted of any of them even if he's convicted he can be president from jail I me you this also laughable it's all just like a it's [ __ ] Madness and Mom and Dad are like oh no I didn't do any of this [ __ ] he didn't hold this [ __ ] hold on let me let me let me straighten you out on something folks you have to you all know he needs to hear this and you damn sure need to hear this young lady if he is not on the ballot in Colorado uh that's when we're going to start shooting you [ __ ] because he's not going to jail why you shooting me I don't live in Colorado nothing this you you are hey you're gonna pick a [ __ ] side and we're gonna force you to nope [ __ ] you I'm not picking aside can't force me never picking a side then you're gonna [ __ ] die now here's the other deal how come we're not arresting how come we're not arresting the [ __ ] Muslims climbing the the [ __ ] fence at the white house right now putting them in jail for 22 years you know why you know why because Biden loves them cuz Biden doesn't give a [ __ ] about [ __ ] Muslims either unit it's all about China I don't know what you're talking about but uh all right all right well of course you don't know what I'm [ __ ] talking about just happened in Washington DC yesterday you stupid [ __ ] okay Googling Muslims climbing the white protest is what you're referring to okay climbing the fence climbing statues statues that have been up there for years and years of the of the United States okay here's what I'm getting Pro Palestinian protesters vandalized the gates of the White House with red paint and attempted to scale the fence around the president's residence early sounding money according to footage sh for blah blah blah blah protesters also place all right so dozens arrested yeah and why aren't they in prison for that they were arrested and they day this was something El and they also on some of our statues were putting the rags around their heads [ __ ] yeah that was yesterday who car do you think that that's the same as 2,000 people breaking into the Capitol building and scaring [ __ ] on the walls yes same thing interesting even worse I yeah I think it's worse worse because they're terrorists they're terrorists and they're yeah trying to take down our country okay and the [ __ ] 2000 wasn't yeah no it was not okay two sides I suppose so let me ask you this about this Colorado ballot in the United States and they're gonna all be Muslims get ready he has to be next to the microphone cannot understand what he's saying in regard to picking a side there was another thing on TV Haley I thought this was very interesting because you're a business owner it was a business owner in where was where was that business owner at um in New Jersey and he's and he's a Greek he's not um yeah Jew or anything so a Greek American I guess right yeah and what he did was he took all of the missing Americans that and Israeli I guess the missing Americans and Israelis that are in the war right now he went pro Israel and he put pictures of each one of them and put them on the outside of his restaurant there are lines around the block of people coming in to pay him money and how's your to be um you know for Israel that's why I'm saying you got to take a stand you don't Haley you have taken a stand on just about every other [ __ ] thing everything Chad's not right and I don't think that any [ __ ] men women or children civilians in Israel or in [ __ ] Gaza should be murdered right now but you have to acknowledge historically what is going on with Palestinians in that region we're GNA get to this we're listen you guys are getting a little off topic here and we're that is our final topic today so let's save the Palestinian Israeli conflict uh discussion until then what we are talking about here is Colorado are they be successful in getting Tom off the presidential ballot mom you say no Haley whatever dad's saying can't hear it it's just it's a garbled mess he has to be sitting next to the microphone or it is irrelevant Haley do you think Colorado is gonna be successful in getting Trump off the ballot uh probably not probably not I mean if it goes to a [ __ ] Federal Supreme Court like it's [ __ ] stacked so right do you think uh it even matters at all if he is removed Colorado hasn't voted for a Republican president since 2004 no unless it's a swing state it doesn't matter so it's kind of irrelevant but I do like that they're doing it I wish every other [ __ ] blue state would do it just just to do it like just [ __ ] you Trump he's aie [ __ ] they can't hear you just say that what's he saying if you would like to call on dad then he will speak dad do you think it will matter at all if if Trump is removed from the Colorado ballot given that they don't for Republican presidents or haven't in 20 years well it it doesn't [ __ ] matter because if they take him off the ballot we're gonna shoot them all everybody color we're gonna shoot them all what does that look like to you what it what it looks like to me we we are the Maga and what's gonna happen is we're gonna come out in droves and we're g to start putting bullets in these [ __ ] Democrats heads that that judge in Colorado looks like a [ __ ] transsexual domain looks like a [ __ ] man and by the way just blind Prejudice here absolutely blind Prejudice we're going to go to town on you because that's what you [ __ ] have been doing for 20 years and we're gonna make it right through death okay what now we're gonna k your ass and you know what what you don't get about this young man you think you can stay neutral you're gonna pick a side or die I'm not neutral I hate Donald Trump I'm highly against him I'm on the opposite side of Donald Trump well then you're going to catch one between the eyes okay so when you say we you're including yourself in this yes you will go to Colorado and start killing people yes should I alert the FBI FBI couldn't arrest me if they wanted they can't hear you he said FBI couldn't arrest him why can he not sit next to you okay he is kill 10 FBI guys before they get okay uh do you want to sit by me or not no just tell him he said that just tell him just tell mom cannot if can he hear me coming out of that Mom is not gonna relay what you're saying back to us just say what you got to say just be next to the microphone yourself that's what I got to say oh my God he's done he's done with the episode I'm done with him he's done all right let's move on we're gonna simmer down a little bit with some sad news in the pop culture world this week bring dad back for the simmer down at least he won't give a in the [ __ ] seat for the simmer down I know what he'll say so that he doesn't give a crap and He does care Matthew Perry died this past week he is one of the biggest TV stars that has ever existed of course he was on friends which was one of the biggest shows that ever existed what were your reactions to this news Haley let's start with you because this is of your generation I don't give a [ __ ] I I have seen friends probably like three times through uh my whole family has Willow is now watching it like all the way through y um I don't know I mean I wasn't sad I don't usually get sad when celebrities die just kind of like mourn the loss of of that era of that time frame you know it was a significant cultural uh phenomenon friends so you know it's it's sad but I didn't like cry about it posted like a [ __ ] cake on my page that we made like oh [ __ ] he [ __ ] died but I don't know I it's it's like the end of of that era of that kind of like there's never going to be a sitcom probably that's going to like how much money did that [ __ ] make isn't that the most successful sitcom of like all time uh that I don't know it's it's up there with cheers Seinfeld I don't know I don't know exactly Arie bunker Archie Bunker that one all was way more successful than that yeah Mom you very famously at least within our family uh you and Dad were out here visiting for some purpose on the weekend that Michael Jackson died and you made me drive you to his home in hble Hills to the UCLA Medical Center where he died and then go to his store in the Walk of Fame and you were crying that entire day so Mom did you have any emotional reaction to Matthew perod let's go back to Michael Jackson real quick I always wanted to see him live and in person and because I didn't get that opportunity that's why I broke down at where they had the flowers placed at the house it wasn't the star that y'all took me too you took me to you did go to the store no yes you [ __ ] did but yeah but prior to that you took me to the corner there yeah where the house was right up the road where he died yeah that's when I broke down when there is a photo of you standing like on his star with an impersonator I believe yes butre that's not he was alive then Mom if you can find that photo you have to post it on necessary conversation which by the way we got to talk about what you're doing there when I send you these videos you then play them on your iPad and you videotape it with your phone on the iPad all you have to do is download the video and then post it to Instagram you don't have to make this secondary I knew it I knew you TCH me Roman showed me how to catched me that I was like re redoing them on my iPhone because Roman came and showed me how to do it on the big computer but it's different on my iPad yes on your iPad you just go into your email where I'm sending videos yes you probably you long press on them I would guess on the link it will then open up a download thing you download that to your camera roll then from your camera yes it won't go to my camera roll it's going to Google something Google something something and I don't I'll figure it out we're we're all gonna be together for Thanksgiving I'll figure it out I'll I'll help you get it right because the way you're doing it now is just a disaster but but if you can post that picture of you on Michael Jackson star I think that would be hilarious okay so Matthew Perry though how are you feeling about this I'm sad he is the first one of the group to go we all know that in the past he had he had um drug he was addicted to some drugs and opiates and stuff and it is sad um yeah but who knows why he died in the hot tub all of that that will come out I'm sure I'm sure everybody's thinking drugs but who knows maybe he really just had the heart attack and that was it it's sad very very sad all right well my reaction to it was kind of similar end of an era friends was a uh an important TV show if for no other reason then it's just unbridled success but Dad I'm surprised you didn't like it because one of the big complaints about friends was that it was super racist all the characters in it were white always and they never really diverted from that until they kind of got in trouble for it and then later in in Seasons into the series they started introducing like Ross was one black woman that he hated it was Aisha Taylor I think yeah I think over mumbling he said he actually never got into that one well maybe it's time to start what was the other one that we liked that Frasier that's coming back Tim the to man Tim the to man yeah well we've simmered down a little bit let's move back into the heat of things should women be jailed for abortions Florida govern Governor Ronda santis falsely claimed last week that quote no prolifer has ever argued that a woman should be jailed for getting an abortion DeSantis made the claim while criticizing a Ral for the Republican Presidential nomation Nikki Haley at a Thursday event in winthrip college in South Carolina Des santis was asked if he took exception to anything Haley has been advocating on abortion related policy such as Banning late term abortions encouraging adoptions ensuring access to contraception and making sure women are not jailed for having an abortion Des Santa scoffed at Haley's comments about preventing women from being jailed saying quote well look I mean of course you're not going to jail a woman no prolifer has ever argued that so when she's saying that she's indulging media narratives that's a narrative that's not how it is but DeSantis is absolutely wrong a group of party lawmakers in South Carolina state house this very year pushed for the passage of laws that would treat women who get abortions as murders and subject them to the possibility of decades in prison so my question is Dad is he around let me get it I I just simply don't understand why you can't sit next to you well when you get to the house you'll understand a power play that he's doing what here it's we don't have enough room for two of us on a freaking couch okay there he is Dad should women be put in jail if they get an abortion considering my where I'm in where 100% And what do you think the what they're murderers oh so life sentence yes should they be put to death and depends on if they're one of the women who let the baby become comfortable and then kill it after birth yes well that's murder so I agree with you there well what's the difference if you take them out before they're born but they're two weeks from two weeks from full term that's murder nobody's doing abortions two weeks from full term oh they're not no they're not no no they're not now they were but they were okay smart guy do you believe uh mom that women should be put in jail women women who are women who are having babies and I don't give a [ __ ] what the reason is do not have the right to take the life of that child okay it's not their choice but you believe you have the right to kill Palestinian children ABS [ __ ] lutely very interesting Mom they're all they're all [ __ ] terrorists okay Mom should women be put in jail for getting abortions no it's ridiculous Haley now I know that you think they should yeah no obviously not let me then uh reduce this question down to a finer Point dad you're the only person who said women should be jailed for having abortions do you believe women should be jailed for having miscarriages no interesting so somewhere between miscarriage and abortion what is the difference to you uh miscarriage is not their choice nature nature okay what if they uh if you choose to kill a baby that's in your womb you're a [ __ ] murderer okay and so then I assume you believe any doctors who perform these Services should be in jail forever they no they should get the same sentence as the mother okay interesting we just we just don't believe in abortion you guys know that that's how we stand we don't believe in it should you be put in jail for it probably not yeah I mean um well you should but we've had so many years of getting away with yeah I mean yeah so many years of getting away with it that's what he said well when you use it as birth control I'd put them in jail then if they're aborting if yes no yes do do that yes they eff and do Haley oh my God my God oh my God Mom do you know anybody who has ever had an abortion yes yes okay and you believe that person should be in jail yes I said no to jail no I'm I was talking to Dad yes okay Dad said yes interesting I don't know who this person is but uh that's interesting are they is this a family perhaps a friend what is this a friend or a family member or something oh my god really no it's an acquaint it's an enemy it's it's an acquaintance from a long time ago okay uh very vague okay so that's interesting let me ask you this question dad do you think Nikki Haley is making a mistake by holding the position that uh women should not be jailed by getting abortions do you think most Republicans think women should be put in jail for getting abortions yeah I think well I think she's Mak a mistake running for anything she's she's [ __ ] done she's so overcooked she I mean she's dry turkey at Thanksgiving she's just trying to be she's trying to be as moderate as she can be for she's like the progressive Republic Nikki Haley is so [ __ ] irrelevant to the world it's ridiculous no I kind of disagree I feel like you disagree all you want we'll see you right when it I really think that Donald Trump we'll find I think Donald Trump is sun I don't think he's going to be the candidate I really don't oh you don't know [ __ ] from your ass okay a [ __ ] criminal he is a criminal and I think more Republicans now at this point yeah he is a [ __ ] criminal the only people voting for Donald Trump are the [ __ ] same people that voted for him the last time there are no new votes for Donald Trump I'll be a new vote for Donald Trump yeah yeah did you see how many hits that that video made no I didn't see did you post it yes I posted you're you have to vote for Donald Trump if he gets the nomination which you will and I don't think he will okay don't care what you think put down my prediction yeah one year from today what you think Mi haly thinks one year my prediction one year from today put this down as my prediction all right we will be in this podcast and I'm going to say I told you so we now have a new president Donald Trump one year from today Donald Trump will be our president elected and this is on November 5th Yer all right I got it down um and Nikki Haley ukra take one up the Nikki Haley I thought she was kind of like you know she was running for president all that she still is but I think she was trying to do that to be something on Donald Trump to be Donald Trump but if that's your choice if that is the Republican candidate are you voting for her no what you're voting for Biden see what no you just won't we're gonna kill enough people where trp I'll write Donald Trump in okay so if Trump is not the nominee will both of you write Trump in I will will you yeah and I'll many people who won't vote for him okay and he's going to kill everybody dad here's my prediction dad you're gonna kill zero people you're not gonna fight in the uh Civil War you are not gonna March into Colorado you will not go to Israel you will not fight in Ukraine we we won't have to I won't have to people in Colorado on my side will take care of business there's more of them in Northern Colorado that want to kill Denver than the vice Vera So when you say we will start killing people in Colorado you really mean not you my my organization oh I didn't realize it was your your organization what is that organization dad what should we call it I'm part of it what my organization is Donald Trump's going to be the next president of the United States and we will take down our organization will kill as many people as it takes to get him there that is a very wordy title for your organization can you boil it down down to [ __ ] where okay here it is here it is America First death to everybody else okay still pretty wordy but uh a little more to the point let's move on to our final topic go ahead and make yourself an anacronym or whatever you [ __ ] liberals do you can't talk everything's got a Mimi or a [ __ ] peei or a [ __ ] what I or an AI or a pi y all don't [ __ ] talk okay all you do is make up [ __ ] I don't understand he's done I have no idea what was even said there okay like an Elon Musk thing I I don't understand what does that mean he said y'all make [ __ ] up are you gonna quit yell and just talk okay I might give him the mic back if he talks look who's that what is that father the bride yes okay FR all right Haley this is for you just talk please the odds Nikki Haley ever does anything in politics again is a big [ __ ] zero that woman's political career is [ __ ] over she'll never be anything okay she's worthless as tit on a Bo Pig p I knew that was coming tits on a Bo Pig worthless as tits on a board Pig I knew that was coming I'm I'm marking that one down too because I don't think her political career is over I think she might wind up as a vice presidential candidate uh no way oh if you're making that prediction write that down because that's a wrong one I'm not predicting it I just think it's possible and his prediction flatly that her political career is over I think could be wrong let's move on to our final topic are you ready we've already kind of uh grazed it a little bit we're talking about that war in quotes not really a war a genocide in uh Gaza we are talking about refugee camps and ambulances the Israeli Army bombed a convoy of ambulances near the largest hospital in Gaza on Friday an attack that inqu horrified United Nations Secretary General Antonio gueras the alifa hospital in Gaza City is overcrowded with patients and serves as a ref refuge for some 20,000 displaced people the Israelis killed 15 civilians and wounded at least 60 others the Convoy of five ambulances was attempting to transport casualties toward the Rafa border crossing but had to return to the hospital because the road was blocked with rubble when it was targeted by Israeli missiles the Israeli forces have been insisting on the evacuation of the hospital claiming it houses the underground command center of the islamist militants another Israeli bombing uh last week also killed a dozen and injured at least 50 Palestinians at a un School in the jabalia refugee camp the largest in Gaza so the Israeli Army is targeting ambulances refugee camps hospitals uh schools is it okay Mom to bomb schools ambulances refugee camps in any circumstance to Target them this is not collateral damage they are targeting these places I was just getting ready to say collateral damage it's not though um those ambulances are being used by Hamas Okay ambulance he said are being used by Hamas I'm asking you this question mom wait he's gonna get his chance let let Mom talk dad I want to hear what her thoughts are then we'll come to you number one I don't know if that information is correct or not we don't know mean no we we don't know we're not over there we're not the have you seen any of the footage have you seen any of the footage children [ __ ] crying and bleeding and Bones out of their [ __ ] body have you seen yes that that is all the proof you need I've seen the footage where they raped crashed in the lady's head that was at the music festival put her in the back of a Jeep showed her everybody after they gang raped her then broke her arm then had her talk on a video then sliced her throat and killed her yeah that's the one I'm looking at that's the people I don't like that's the evil people and I'm on the opposite side yeah no one appreciates what Hamas did Hamas does not speak for an entire [ __ ] population so I'm gonna tell him goodbye okay dad wants to tell you goodbye all right what I said I love you Chad I love you Haley I love you Mary L and I love the [ __ ] Israelis for killing every [ __ ] Palestinian on Earth all right love you too Dad have a good nap or whatever's going on all right Mom we're not suggesting that what Hamas did is good in any way or should be defended of course it is a [ __ ] abhorent act of terrorism murder rape it's all the worst [ __ ] that a human being can do to another human being but now the Israeli Army is doing essentially a similar act same [ __ ] yeah to civilians they are targeting civilians this is not a military act this is also terrorism when you use a military force to Target civilians especially for political motivated reasons that is Terrorism this is called a war it's not a war though who are they fighting huh there's not like a Palestinian military trying to fight back it's just the Israeli Army dropping bombs on hospitals Chad we're not there how do you know in war stranger things have happened you got to pick a side if you're on Israel's side don't you get rid of them you have to I don't pick either side I'm against all of the violence and both sides are committing that violence so choose neither side okay so if somebody would take me rape me break my arms uh G and then fling me around say looky lookie ha haa you would do nothing no of course I would try to seek Justice for those specific people who are involved in that crime and you look at someone like the isra Israeli military who has at this point massive amounts of funding from the United States military biggest military in the world do they have the capability of selecting more specific targets do they have have the capability of going into uh Gaza and finding the actual Hamas soldiers that are responsible for this yes they do and bringing them to justice Israel did not start this fight Israel did not start the fight remember that right once the fight started you got to take them all down listen it's a very it's very complicated about who in quote started the fight and that goes back decades what I'm looking at is this incident SC Not when they came into the music festival and just started gunning down people did they ask for that no no of course on all the college campuses the Jews the Jew um students are so afraid right now did they ask for that no that's the side I'm on yeah I don't I'm talking specifically about what is going on there I personally believe yes of course what homas did was [ __ ] terrible and there should be repercussions in I believe a similar measure I don't think what's happening now is a similar measure and maybe they are killing some of the Hamas soldiers that were literally part of the the terrorist act that happened that kind of kicked this whole thing off maybe they are getting some of them they're not being forthcoming about that if they are the Israeli Army is like well we believe we killed this guy but we have no proof of it and they're never gonna have proof of it because they're just [ __ ] decimating everything yeah proof is is blown up so they're literally trying to level Gaza yes it's as the scapegoat like they're literally trying to eradicate entire before we've talked about this before in a war collateral damage it's not collateral damage want to win or not do you it's not collateral damage they are specifically targeting civilians that collateral damage is like and Hamas you try to hit a military Target and oops a couple civilians died we we do that all the time we've had every president since drone strikes have been available including Obama including all the Republicans they have all killed civilians women and children in collateral damage strikes but it was always in service or at least they say it was always in service of trying to find an Isis Commander or an Al-Qaeda guy or whatever yeah this [ __ ] is like you I think it's very difficult to watch what's going on and believe that any of this is the Israeli military like targeting Hamas officials and like oopsie we blew up a [ __ ] Hospital huh send in your [ __ ] ground troops send in Israeli Commandos to go get the guy in the tunnel under the the hospital without killing 60 [ __ ] children in a school right well I don't think the people at the music festival either asked for to be shot down and gunned down right then and there either no but I'm saying that is not an excuse now for what is happening I agree with you that was an abhorent act of terrorism and the people involved should be brought to justice but can't you see that parallel but can't you see the parallel that those innocent people at the [ __ ] Festival did not deserve to die just as the innocent people in Gaza don't deserve to die what I'm what Dad and I have believed in Gaza if they had a chance to get out I asked Dad the other day if we were stuck there right now we know that get out guess what I would fight tooth and nail and fight to get out of there they have bombed their way out they can't get out because I would be smart enough to know if I didn't get out I was going to die anyway and that's what's happening to them there um our Americans can't even get a way out because our [ __ ] government hello Biden like he is the worst president in history Biden it's the Israeli military who has bombed the [ __ ] out of the place so there's no roads that get out there ain't a [ __ ] airport like you ain't going nowh that there was a way out by SE or airplane and he was making them sign vouchers that if they did get out by our government they would have to pay that back to our United States government within 30 days and that is true that's true but I dad's not here I don't know where he went but he was kind of of the mind when we first started talking about this that if you were in Gaza even if you're an American over there [ __ ] it you deserve to die yeah do you believe that yeah that's what he did say but then I said what if that was us there he said we'd try every way in hell to get out and if not then we know we were going to die we' be smart enough to know we're going to die so we'd have to get out somewh there's no way to get gu what you pick a side the bad guys would probably then get us because we wouldn't be able to get out so you don't but if you strip away the politics which by the way are all fake countries are just an abstract idea they're not real none of this is real religion is not real none of this is real real it's pretty real it isn't real what is real and that was not a pun what is is real not is real what is real is groups of people killing other groups based on these abstract ideas and now you have two groups of people that are doing basically the same thing and they're gonna WIP each quotes whatever the [ __ ] that means did it to uh all of these civilians in the first terrorist act and now you have the Israeli military doing it to all these other civilians it is just murder back and forth whatever the reasons are the reasons AR AR real they never are politics don't really exist nationalities don't really exist religions don't really exist these are just people justifying horrible acts of brutality and violence against one another well I think the people of United States that fought for our country that fought for our freedom would disagree with you there that our government is real it has been real for a lot of years um that's why two flags laying in the Cedar Chest there both your grandfathers fought in the War and the day they were buried I was handed their flag so that's real um so yeah our government is real and we've got to get this country back nice that was a very nice political wrapup and we've got to get this country back thank you for your time uh Senator culin um well Haley do you have anything to add to this conversation it's such it's a much more pleasant conversation when dad is taking a nap or whatever thing know we it's it's uh you know it's all over any feed that that you have Instagram [ __ ] Facebook Tik Tok whatever I uh you know I'm a parent and I'm a woman so seeing this [ __ ] happen you know in a country where essentially it's just a bunch of moms and their kids like being [ __ ] murdered obviously it's hard to watch you can't you know I don't I don't pick a side you just there's Humanity involved here and if you have any kind of empathy for [ __ ] humans at all it's hard to watch this [ __ ] and then to hear you guys say kill them all is absurd it's absolutely absurd that you can see those images and be against those people the images I am seeing are the same ones you're talking about that the Hamas went in and killed they I also feel terrible for all the hostages all of the women all the people [ __ ] shot at Point Blank Range I do not I'm not a [ __ ] Hamas apologist okay I believe that what they did was wrong but I don't believe that Palestinians living in Gaza did anything wrong they are not Hamas and for you they're synonymous but it's not you don't know you don't know if they are you do [ __ ] know there's a five-year-old baby [ __ ] dying that's not a goddamn terrorist right but in a war situation we've talked about this you can't line them up and say are you good are you bad same thing in the Viet definitely can most definitely see a child and say that's a [ __ ] kid doesn't deserve to die did nothing I have also seen five and six year old kids on the other side that have guns and we're pointing them up to uh the American head and say kill them all so when they're young they're kind of indoctrinated into it too I did see some of that but I don't believe in killing babies crap no I don't believe in killing 90-year-old women pushing them out of a wheelchair slit in their throat who believes in that kind of stuff not me all right well there you have it we have some beliefs and we have some non-beliefs uh but that wraps up our show again if anybody wants to send in a question for this show just send it in a one minute or under audio format to the necessary conversation pod gmail.com and I would also like to encourage everybody to share this podcast with people you think might like it we are trying to grow this audience a little bit uh my mom has been doing pretty good job on social media trying to get it out there but uh we do need to up your your game uh that can be handed over to anyone on this podcast Haley Chad I ain't got no time I produced the [ __ ] podcast uh well this is my job my job is writing the script for this podcast every week editing this podcast every week making the YouTube video for this podcast every week and then cutting the little videos for you every week that don't get used I've used them all he's yelling at me just what if you haven't gone to the Instagram please go to the what is our Instagram handle mom a minute what paom let me look let me look okay what's the Instagram handle again mom um it is the necessary conversation and then pod I think you made me add but remember when I first started that on Instagram there was already already a necessary conversation that someone else started that couldn't remember the password hello Chad then yes and then when I did the necessary conversation 2024 y'all were like what are you doing I had to yeah okay there's another there is another podcast called the necessary conversations by the way that's not us oh no Chad told me to put pod after it I thought I did well I don't know it's very confusing but if you follow me on any of my other stuff at Chad or Bachelor Clues I repost all the stuff that my mom posts so you can find it there but thank you everybody for joining us and before we go as always we must tell each other we love each other despite our political differences Haley I love you Mom I love you Dad wherever you are I love you Mom Dad I love you Chad I love you Chad Haley Bob I love you he's in laying down taking a nap and he said turn that [ __ ] off I can't stand it there you go what [ __ ] the Steve you me you me and Haley Jesus Christ all right well this is us turning ourselves off because my dad can't stand it we will see you next week