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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. And I'm Chad Culture. And with me is my very famous lefty sister.
Hey. Hey. Haley Pope. Haley Pop. It's me. It's Haley Pop. It's me. Yes. There she is right here. Can't believe she's still talking to us.
And my mom. I can't believe she came back. I can't believe she came back. Came back. Um came back to the podcast. You're too famous for us now.
Oh, right. Right. Okay. But also we have with me my mom who I dare say is MAGA but is no longer conservative. She holds a lot of views that go against the the conservative grain right now.
I think we should call her Mimi mom Donnie. Oh yeah, that's funny. No, just because I said that one thing doesn't mean not that one thing. You've said a bunch of things over the course of maybe the last month. Universal healthare abolishing ICE. We're I we're going to get to this in the the listener question. Do you have any diddies?
Well, I just want to say to Haley, I'm very proud of her. I know she sold down of her bakery. There were lines. It was crazy. It was chaos. She sold out of all her merch.
Good job, Haley. Proud of you. Dad and I are proud of you. Thanks for being famous. All for a It was a liberal cause. cuz I said, "I'm not [ __ ] celebrating the 4th of July."
I know. And I thought that was weird. In relation to everything that's going on with Haley, can you finally admit that go woke, go broke is completely wrong?
No, I won't go that far. No, you're you're seeing evidence of it in her shop. She literally is selling out all of her stuff because she's so anti-right, because she's so leftist. So woke.
I know. When she first started the bakery, we really, both dad and I thought, don't mix politics with your business. No one has, no one that we have ever known that did that was successful.
You watch Newsmax 24 hours a day. That's all. No one has ever The people don't do this. I mean, I think that's maybe the point. People are afraid to put their ass on the line because they want to appease everyone. and I just have never given a [ __ ] Um, I don't care if I isolate the audience. Like I I've said this before. I don't [ __ ] want Mha in my bakery. I don't want them there. So, I think it's a good thing. [ __ ] set your boundaries. Who are you? Let me know. I don't want to support a [ __ ]
person that supports a rapist. So, if there's another small business in my town that supports Donald Trump, I don't want to [ __ ] go there. Why can't we lay it all out there? Why can't you? But you have made Donald Trump. You have made Donald Trump cakes. You said if someone wants one, you will bake it.
Yeah, I told you I'll make anything that's not hate speech. The minute we enter that territory, get [ __ ] All right. Okay.
Um, Mom, do you have any diddies? No, that was my diddy. Proud of Haley. That was the diddy. We're going to move on to our listener question. If you have a question you'd like us to answer, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Email it to the necessary conversationpodgmail.com. I get a lot of submissions. So, please put question in the subject line. And if you are sending it via Google Drive, make sure that whoever you're sending the link to can actually access the file. I get a lot of them where it's like you click on it and it says you
have to ask for permission to actually download it and see it. So, just make sure all that stuff's in place. Here is our question. Are you ready?
Ready. Hi, Cultin family. My name is Lauren. I am 34 years old, Canadian, but I live in Australia now with my wife and kids. My question is for the newest member of the abolish ICE movement, Miss Mary Lou Colchin. If you woke up tomorrow and you had all of the evidence that you needed that Trump had committed all of his crimes and corruption that he has and that the Republican party covered it up in the next election, would you be more likely to still vote Republican or do you think you would vote for the best candidate regardless of their party?
Basically, is your loyalty to the party or to the evidence? Anyways, love you guys. Hope all the best for Bob. Um, Haley, please keep pissing off mega because it's just so fabulous. Love you guys. Love from Australia.
Australia. All right, there you go. So, the question is essentially, are you like loyal to the party of MAGA or would you vote for a candidate outside of MAGA if they represented policies and views that you think are important? I have always voted straight Republican.
Okay. Usually um there was a time a few years ago when dad and I did not. But anyway, what at this point in the game?
Yeah. Who? Yeah. Talking about who it was. Was it Ann Richards? Was it like a Was it a state level or like a president?
At a state level. Yeah. At a state level. Did you vote for Ann Richards? I think governor of Texas. Yes. Yes. I think maybe that was it. And at this point in the game, at this time, I would vote for the best person that I think could do the job. I really would.
So So you might vote for a Democrat. If yes, it's the best person to do the job. Well, we've got two issues. Like I don't know what your big issue is going to be in the next presidential election, but we've got two big issues that you are now a fullblown super lefty lib on.
Mhm. Universal healthcare and abolish ICE. Yes. You you agree with both of those, right? No Republican on any ticket will have those views.
So I'm not I still say abolish ICE, but I want to say something. I still say abolish ICE. Then a couple of my MAGA friends send me stuff to remind me why I was for ICE.
And then I think, "Oh my gosh, you know, in Houston, the 13-year-old, uh, Joyce Joyce Malgra, I think was her name. I'm sorry if I didn't say it correctly. And the two illegal Venezuelan men that tied her hands together, raped her under the bridge, and then threw her away. That's the people I want ICE to get out of here. But that's not who they're getting out,
right? That's right. That's what I'm trying to say. So, in the beginning, I thought that's what ICE was. That's I wanted the drug cartel out. I wanted the drug people out. I wanted people like that that were harming people out. But now, that's not happening.
Correct. So, I mean, I'm not backing. He doesn't care if it happens or not. Stop vice. Yeah. And and I'm telling you because you've been through now the medical system in America with all this [ __ ] with dad. Um you've seen these two murders now which we're going to talk about in the first subject. You you're saying abolish ICE. These are two I assume important issues to you.
Yes, they are. Hello. Okay. Yes. No Republican on any ticket is going to share those opinions. So, how important are those issues to you in the upcoming presidential election?
How do you know that they won't be on their ticket to say that? Because they're Republicans. They don't want private or they don't want uh universal healthcare. They want privatized healthcare so that we all pay more money to them. They want and need ICE in the streets to sew fear into the general population so that they control us with fear so that they can also potentially take control of elections, which we're going to get to in one of our topics as well. No Republican will be for those things.
Okay. So, I'm asking you. I'll make my decision when I see all that, I guess. Okay. All right. Well, we're going to keep reminding you of it.
Yeah. Um All right. Thank you very much for your question. Again, if you have a question, just record it in a one minute or shorter video format. Send it to the necessary conversation potgmail.com.
What' you say, Mom? You got a little something. Hello, Mom. I'm fine. Okay. Our first top No, you're glitching. Our first topic is ICE. In the past two weeks, ICE has killed two people. On July 7th, ICE officers killed Lorenzo Salgado Ajo in Houston. He was a 52-year-old Mexican national, and he was not the person ICE was looking for. He had no criminal record and was close to obtaining a work permit after 35 years in the US. Then on July 13th, ICE murdered Johan Sebastian Duran Guerrero in Maine. He was a 25-year-old Colombian national authorized to work in the US legally.
DHS claimed he attempted to flee a vehicle stop, although video evidence seems to show that was not the case. And again, he also was not the person that ICE was targeting. The ICE agent who killed Guerrero is David Michael Bruette, a 37year-old from Manchester, Maine, former police officer and US Army veteran who was hired by ICE this year. He previously worked as a police officer at a VA facility, briefly as a corrections officer at the main correctional center, and had two stints with a volunteer fire department where he was quote removed for shouting and refusing to follow a supervisor's orders. His ex-wife, Ashley Brulette,
says he called her after the shooting, admitted he was the shooter, and asked her to lie for him, and vouch for his character, and to not talk about the abuse in their marriage. She refused, describing violence during their marriage, including an alleged incident where he pointed a gun at her in the shower and threatened to kill her. She said she wanted to speak out because she had previously reported concerns about his mental health to his military superiors and said he has displayed racism, worrying it may have played a role in the shooting. ISIS's reaction was to issue a nationwide pause on vehicle stops. But within hours of
reports of the pause, Trump himself posted to Truth Social, quote, "We cannot give up one of ISIS's most important and effective crime fighting tools, the traffic stop."
Press Secretary Caroline Levit confirmed vehicle stops are now continuing. Mom, on Wednesday, you said abolish ICE. Now Trump is saying we need them back out in the streets doing exactly what they did when they murdered these two men. Do you agree with Trump?
No. They did suspend them though. They suspended vehicle stops for a while. It said no. For 30 seconds. Yeah. Trump literally posted on Truth Social, we need vehicle stops to continue. That's their best weapon or whatever. And now they're doing it again. If I read this, a federal judge ordered major changes at an ICE detention center in California requiring improvements to medical care, sanitation, food, recreation, and other conditions
at the same time that he did those temporary stops. But Trump, the guy you keep saying is my president, yes, is saying, "Fuck this. Put him back out on the streets. I like what's happening."
Right. And the kind of people that ICE is hiring are literal criminals. This man abused his wife, pointed a gun at her, asked her to lie for him, and then he [ __ ] murdered somebody. He should be in prison.
But this is the kind of crop that like they're they're hiring, you know, dangerous people. I said get rid of ICE. I said it. I said it. I mean it. So quit banging my head against the wall. I'm not banging your head against the wall. I I love that you said that. I think it's one of the biggest steps you've had in the history of our show. I love it and everybody does. The the DMs and stuff I'm getting are like, "Oh my god, she's coming to our side. This is great."
What I'm what I'm trying to get is the next step. Like abolish ICE is great. But the next step after that is who's responsible for the way ICE is currently
handling themselves, is currently operating. It's Donald Trump, right? And so you you're there now. You get it. You see the light that I is doing bad [ __ ] It's bad people they're hiring. They're not training them properly and they are killing people that aren't even their targets, let alone here legally. All of that said, when ICE itself, when the agency itself says, "All right, something is [ __ ] up. We need to stop traffic stops at least for a minute because our ICE agents are killing people during them and that that shouldn't be happening." You with me?
Yes. When ISIS is saying that, Trump then says, "No, keep doing what you're doing." Are you sure it's Trump? I thought there Do you want me to read you the whole his his whole uh post? I have it here.
Holman was in charge now. This is what Trump posted. This is immediately after the murders. The men and women of ICE are doing a great job. One that has to be done. Crime is way down in America in many cases with numbers that haven't been seen in decades. The open border policy of sleepy Joe Biden allowed 25 million people to pour into our country unchecked and unvetted. Many were criminals and we have to get them out.
In order to do this, we must be strong, tough, and smart. And we cannot all caps give up one of ISIS's most important and effective crime fighting tools. All caps, the traffic stop. Once we do, we are playing right into the criminals hands. The radical left Democrats would like to see this done, but it won't happen on my watch. ICE, be judicious, fair, and smart, and go back and do your very important job. Keep those crime stat records coming. Remember, you are loved and respected in America. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
All caps, President Donald J. Trump. So, he's basically saying, "Keep doing what you're doing." You're saying, "Abolish ICE." He's not only saying, "Don't abolish ICE." He's saying, "Keep killing."
And there's protests going on now and more protests. I understand all of that. Yes, I understand all of that. I'm trying to get you just to make that little step from abolish ICE to Trump is behind this. The very thing you want abolished is is happening because of him.
The reason for its existence is Donald Trump. I have said a ball of ice. I know. I know. Trump is still your president. Okay, fine. Just let it let that simmer. Let it cook in the mind. All right. Next topic. Iran.
I will. As of this recording, the US mil what? Hello. You there? Yep. Man, her internet's bad. Bad day. Next topic is Iran. As of this recording, the US military completed its seventh consecutive night of strikes on Iran with attacks shifting further into Iran's interior. Iran has widened its attacks on US allies in the region. A top Iranian military adviser warned the United States could face a quote full-scale offensive if the barrage continues. The two US service members uh two US service members, sorry, were killed in Jordan and another is currently missing in action. Trump countered their threat with his own, saying, quote, "Next week it gets really
bad for them because next week comes the power plants. Next week comes the bridges. We're going to knock out all their power plants,
which would be a war crime if he does that. Iran has suspended its commitments under the memorandum of understanding reached last month, and the Supreme Leader called Trump's signature worthless." and invalid, accusing the US of repeated breaches. Mom, we are in the um 21st week of this war. You disagree with Trump on ICE. Do you disagree with his threat to bomb bridges and power plants in Iran?
I don't even know what to say about that. I'm in disagreement. There's no timeline anymore. There's no nothing anymore. Nothing looks good. Now we have our servicemen being killed. Um, which is terrible. One death over there is way too many. Um, it's bad. It's bad.
Right. I'm I'm asking you though, do you disagree with him threatening to bomb bridges and power plants? He's trying to do that to shut them off. You know that
to get a war crime done? Yes. So, remember he went over there originally to liberate the people of Iran? Yes. So, now we're going to take out their bridges and their power plant. How is that helping the people of Iran?
I'm so afraid where this is all going. I'm really afraid now. I've never been afraid. I thought we'd go in there five, six weeks it would be over. It's not. And now I'm very afraid for everyone. During a press conference, he said something about like, you know, the Vietnam War lasted 19 years. Like he started talking about all these other wars and their longevity
as eluding that like, yeah, this could go on forever. [ __ ] it. And all the while that he's doing this, his kids are opening companies to make drones. And they've they had another company, I forget what it is, that's also war related, and he's giving them government contracts. He's himself is getting rich from the war.
He wants it to persist. I don't think he does. I think he's going to blow them all up. And that's the part that I'm afraid of.
Like with a nuclear weapon. He did mention something. There was some tweet where he said he had already used a nuclear weapon in Iran like inexplicably. He's not all there obviously. Um well, what do you think will happen if he uses a nuclear weapon in Iran?
All hell's going to break loose all over. You think everybody, anybody that has one's going to start shooting them? I don't know if that's accurate, but um certainly if it's done, we will be the biggest evil in the world.
The rest of the world will look to America as the villain and there will be coalitions formed in opposition to us. We will lose probably all of our allies in NATO. Um, if he does that, I think it will be catastrophic for the United States, for the next 50 years, probably the rest of all of our lives, certainly.
Um, do you think, um, when do you think the war is going to end? We talked about that. I thought it would be over soon, but now I I have no idea.
So, do you think it's going to take a new president? A different [ __ ] president? Not so much. I don't I don't
You think Donald Trump is going to pull out at any point? You think that he will? I said that be on the last podcast. I think before he is done with his presidency, I would hope that this were
to believe that because we've we've already it's a ceasefire. No, it's not. You know, like we're going to stop. No, we're not. Now he's talking about taking out power plants and bridges. Talking about literally leveling the whole country. What makes you think that he has any intent to pull out? There are other countries now that said, "Go back to the table. We all need to negotiate.
Maybe other countries might get involved to persuade." And you think he gives a [ __ ] I've read you. I would hope so.
The Supreme Leader called Trump's signature, aka any promise he can make them worthless and invalid because he keeps going back on everything he's saying. He's like, "Let's come to the table and talk. here's our uh you know points of discussion for a a possible ceasefire deal. And then the next day he's tweeting, I'm going to blow up all your bridges and power plants. He's [ __ ] insane.
And didn't they they um there was a picture of a coffin with his name on it that they posted somewhere over there. They're going to kill him, they said.
I don't I don't know if that was real or fabricated. I did read it how they posted on social media um a photo of him and like all of his family members and then it had coffins underneath.
Yeah. They said they're coming after him. But what who cares? Fine. Trump is the one deciding to kill I don't know how many people he's killed in Iran right now.
I'm gonna Google this real quick and see if I can find it. um that Trump has killed. What are you talking about? The war that he's waging.
I It was like thousands. Um as I read it a couple of days ago. I can't find it now, the exact number, but it's a bunch. Um so why wouldn't they want to come after him?
They do. Are you with us? Yes. What are you doing? I'm with you. I'm googling what you were googling. Okay. Uh let's move on to our next topic. Trump's big speech. I'll wait till you're done googling, Mom.
I'm done. You good? Okay. Chad gets Don't look at him there. Thank you very much. There we go. Now we're getting somewhere. On Thursday night, Trump gave a speech in which he announced he had declassified documents he claims reveal vulnerabilities in America's election systems, election fraud, and interference by China, and ordered the DOJ to prosecute those believed to be involved. He claimed the documents show China carried out the quote largest compromise of election data in history, illicitly acquiring 220 million US voter files starting during the 2020 cycle. That Chinese meddling quote included an attempt to manufacture illegal ballots for Biden. that the quote deep state concealed damning
information from him, that China worked with American journalists to discredit him, and that China wanted him to lose because of his tariff plans. He also claimed Venezuela was me manipulating its own election and closed by urging passage of the Save America Act, requiring photo ID and documentary proof of citizenship to vote all four months before the midterms. The problem with the intelligence assessment he declassified is that it directly contradicts him. This is a quote from the assessment. Beijing did not interfere with the election infrastructure, including vote tabulation or the transmission of election results. That's in the document he released, even though he said the
opposite. On top of that, Trump was president during the 2020 election and was uh he was shown the classified intelligence on foreign threats early January 2021. So, the alleged tampering and alleged cover up would have happened under his own administration. ABC, NBC, and CNN did not air the speech live. On their main channel, CBS aired most of it, but its anchor first told viewers uh much of what the president has said on election security has been false. They cut away about 5 minutes early. Fox News aired it, but afterwards admitted it could not confirm his claims. Trump was supposedly furious at this, saying
during the speech itself that ABC and NBC were engaged in a plot and that fraud like this should mean revocation of their licenses, though networks have broad First Amendment rights over what they c they do or don't broadcast. So he of course is wrong. Mom, do you think China tampered with the 2020 election?
Yes, I always have thought that. Okay. So did either one did either one of you guys go to the white house.gov page and look what was on there? No,
the white house.gov is uh as useless as [ __ ] Newsmax. Okay. Well, it's pure propaganda at this point. On that page, there was the first thing was the election integrity and then it had the electronic voting and ballot counting um systems. It had China's act acquisition of they have information about all a lot of people United States of uh American voters and data. Okay.
So, the 2020 election, you believe China interfered. You believe what Trump is saying is true. I do. Trump was president during that time.
Okay. So, how did he let that happen? A lot of people can get through different things like that. If that was Joe Biden, you would want him
Yeah. gone. If it was just the 2020 election, the uh 2016 election didn't happen under Trump and it was fine, right? And the 2024 election didn't happen under Trump and that was fine, right? So only the election that happened when Trump was president is the one that China hacked. How is that possible?
I just think technology is crazy now and they can get in and get anything they want. No, the election both before Trump and after Trump are supposedly secure. So why would it be the election that Trump is presiding over is the one that China has the ability to hack? That's the only one.
That's the documents they just found and have. Okay. Uh, do you think, as Trump said, the networks are engaged in a fraud plot because they chose not to air his speech?
Why did they not choose to air it? Because they knew it was going to be [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah, he's lying.
It's [ __ ] He's the president of the United States. All presidents should be heard. They should put it on all the networks.
Disagree. Okay. He's a convicted felon rapist. Okay. He's president of the United States. They should have aired it. They know that he's trying to invalidate the elections. He is trying to uh seow doubt in the minds of America that any of our elections are real or safe anymore. So that whatever the outcome is in the next one, if it doesn't go his way, he can say, "See, I told you China interfered. Somebody cheated." Whatever.
The documents that he himself released to back up his claim that China interfered in the in the election says this. Beijing did not interfere with the election infrastructure including vote tabulation or the transmission of election results. That's in the document he released.
So he's telling you China interfered. The documents he released is saying though that was released ahead of the information they have now. I bet.
No, that's in the [ __ ] he put out. H because he's an idiot. He doesn't he didn't read any of those documents. He gives his little speech saying China interfered in the election. We have documents to prove it. Then the documents he reveals to prove it actually disprove it. And he has his own I forget who this guy was, but he was on the news immediately after it. Who was one of his high up election officials saying this is wrong. China did not interfere.
Yeah. I didn't see that. Yeah. He literally said it on camera. He's like, "Yeah, nothing. nothing going on here. And then he was like immediately whisked away because they're like, "Oh, [ __ ]
He's lying." Yeah, he's lying. Don't you think though our voting system is not good? It needs to be changed. I agree. Definitely needs to be changed.
I agree. Put it on our phones. Everybody should be able to vote on an app. Done and done, right? Get rid of the electoral college,
right? Vote on an app. Those are my two if I'm running for president. Those are my two um election reforms that I would do.
Okay. Would you vote on an app? Yes, I would. I think 100. I do everything on an app. Of course, I would vote on an app.
Me, too. And everybody's like, the election people could hack it. Well, apparently they can hack without a [ __ ] app, too, per Donald Trump, right? So, what does it matter?
Jesus Christ. He's just lying. He's lying all the time. about everything. How about let the states steal all the voting? Let let each state Yeah. do their own voting.
That's how it is. But he's trying to overturn that. Like when he sent FBI uh agents into Georgia to steal all the elections from the 2020 or all the ballots from the 2020 election,
right? He's doing that so that he can have speeches like this. We went through, look, we went through all the ballots in Georgia. There was massive voter fraud. I would have won that. Have you have you heard the leaks of him talking to somebody? I don't know who he's talking to, but he says like, "I need 11,000 votes. Just find it." Did you hear that?
The leak of those phone calls. I do think we talked about that a long time ago. No, there were some new ones that came out this week. He He's He's clearly engaging in completely illegal behavior.
Yes. Trying to get an election official in Georgia to basically manufacture fake numbers for him. There's a phone call and it is definitely Donald Trump. Illegal as [ __ ]
So, how do you feel about that when he's talking about making our elections more secure, but he himself is literally trying to cheat? Trying to get election officials to manufacture votes that don't exist for him so he can win that state.
Yeah, I'd like to hear that call. And if he's doing that, that's not right. He is all this [ __ ] that you're saying. I'd like to hear that call. I need to do more research. Do you believe what me and Haley are telling you?
Yes, I do. Okay. I'll look up the call when I leave. You won't let me look down at my iPad ever because I'm not engaging.
Does that make you not Does that is that another X? Could we potentially just say like get rid of Donald Trump? Like he's literally trying to rig the voting system.
That's an half of an X. I want half of an Xing the voting system. Rig free and fair elections. You're like half an X. I want to hear the conversation.
Jesus Christ, y'all are hitting me too hard today. Our next topic is also going to be about the elections, but let's simmer down a little bit. I We've lived all over as a family. We've moved about every two years, it seemed like, when we were kids.
What? Um, we didn't move that much. You're exaggerating. I know. We moved Pinocchio. We moved from Great Ben to Amarillo when I was in second grade. Yes,
we moved from Amarillo to Dallas. When I was to Carolton, sorry. When I was in uh sixth grade, seventh grade, and then again when I was a sophomore, we moved to Louisville. So, four times in a span of 16 years.
Is that a lot? Every four years. Every three or four years. Sorry, two years was too much. My apologies. Let me get it right. I wanted to ask us all, what was your favorite town that we ever lived in? And what was something in that talent that you liked?
Mine and I mine and I did ask your dad and I knew we had the same answer. It was where we started. We had no money. We were getting our education. We had a three-month old baby. It was hard as hell to get through school. Manhattan, Kansas. Oh, I guess I lived there technically too as a
Yeah, two two years. Manhattan and then we later went back to that city for just one year for a job when Haley was in college at Kansas State. So, Manhattan, Kansas.
You guys lived in Manhattan again? They lived in Topeka. It's like an hour. I remember that house in Topeka. That house was cool. Haley,
I mean, I haven't really loved like anywhere that we lived. Damn. I I don't Texas is not my thing. Um cuz you're a gallivanter. You like the gallivant.
It's just hot as [ __ ] here. And like obviously politically it's [ __ ] but um Come on, spit it out. I'm trying to I guess for me like that um
she'll say Emeralda. I'm gonna it's kind of like Carolton and Lewisville because you know a lot of it is like nostalgia for me and I remember
like that house in Carolton had like a split level and we would get at the top of the steps and like flaunch ourselves down to the bottom. I remember that and like Yeah. Like I don't know just like crazy [ __ ] And then I like did you you put like hot sauce on blow darts or something?
Yeah, cuz I saw it in a a Rambo or some [ __ ] No, it was a comic book that I used to read called Punisher War Journal and he did that in an issue of that [ __ ] thing. He he took a toothpick, dipped it in hot sauce, and put it in his garage and shot it in a guy's ear.
Right. Hot sauce on blow darts. I don't I just have like a lot of like weird [ __ ] like weird memories like surrounding that house in Carolton. Um
yeah, you know, so so that's like nostalgic for me. Uh but then also I really loved Lewisville because I was like pre-teen into teenage years and that's just really formative um
you know years of your life. So I I think kind of both of those for me. I don't know. I have lots of memories in both of those places.
Yeah, I do too. But I think Carolton edges it out for me. Um because I was younger there too. That was when I was going into like seventh grade or whatever.
Mhm. New town. We had just moved from Amarillo. I had to make a bunch of new friends, many of whom are still like some of my best friends to this day. Last night I just played Magic the Gathering online with a bunch of them. Um yeah, I I really enjoy at least nostalgically I enjoyed Carolton. It was also pre-in so it seems almost like a different world at this point.
That's true. That's true. Um, but yeah, Carolton, you made like your first movies in that house. You used to do like stop motion and then you'd make me get in chairs and like spin, you know, to like make stop.
Yeah, I used to I I wrote a book in that house, too. My first book. It was like a sprawling fantasy novel that's probably
somewhere in a [ __ ] box on like 10 5 inch floppy discs now. Whatever. I don't know. Um, yeah, I have good memories in that house for sure.
I remember going in that garage with my jump rope that I had won at like a book fair or some [ __ ] and I was on the jump rope team just doing like 200 jumps per minute like getting ready for the big heat. I got I have like a lot of memories in that house.
That garage I also remember dad would force me to go out there every day and swing my baseball bat 100 times no matter how hot it was or not. Did you swing your [ __ ] baseball bat?
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Okay, moving on. Moving on. Our fourth topic is Trump is rigging the elections. Mom, last week, Trump fired everybody at the US Election Assistance Commission, the federal agency that certifies voting equipment and sets election security standards. This week, his new head of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen, said that states refusing to participate in Trump's new mandatory election process may be deprived of federal funds and resources to run their elections and that state election officials quote can also be held accountable by fines, by penalties, and even depending on how far it goes, prison time.
Jesus. He's demanding that states participate in Trump's SAVE program, which has not yet been signed into law, including DHS security enhancements that include handing over their voter roles to Trump. He said, "If they don't, quote, "We will scrub all election records." However, this is in direct opposition to the Constitution. Article 1, Section 4 gives states the power to run their own elections with Congress, not the executive branch able to set federal regulations. So, why do you think, Mom, Trump is doing so much to change our electoral process? He won.
I don't think any of that's going to happen. I think he's just yakking. But why? Okay, fine. Why is he yakking? Why does he want to do this? Whether it does happen or not, why does he even want to do this?
He is not running again. I'm not even saying he is. I'm asking you the question, why is he trying to change our elections so drastically? Why is he firing everybody who oversees them?
Like I said, it needs an overhaul. It needs to be better. I guess that's not why he's doing it. He's doing it so they can cheat. You've even heard Mike Johnson say like if they if the Libs win during in November, we're all going to jail. They're taking our families down with us.
That was not Mike Johnson. That was Steve Bannon. That's right. Steve. No, it was also Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson said they're all going to jail.
Mike Johnson said that. He said, "If they win, they're coming for us and our families. And do you want that?" Yeah. Did you see that clip of him where they asked him about I believe it was about the guy who got murdered by ICE in Maine and he's like, "I haven't seen anything about that. I've been a little busy. I've been working like 20 hours over the past few days."
I [ __ ] hate him. And it's like, "Oh, so just like a regular job then?" Yeah. I don't know. So, I'm sorry. Don't get me started on Mike Johnson. I I really hate that guy.
Mom, though, I want to get back to this. You're saying the election needs to be overhauled. Great. Do you think firing the people who oversee it to make it safe and free and fair makes it better?
No, probably not. Okay. No. Right now, Mark Wayne Mullen, the guy that he's put as head of DHS, is saying if these state officials don't comply with everything that Trump wants done, which is basically like handing over your voter roles so they can just eliminate whoever the [ __ ] they want,
right? They will put you in prison. It's ridiculous. How do you think that's helping? It's not. It's ridiculous. Okay. So, would you say you're now against Trump on elections? that what if that's what he's trying to do. Yes,
that is what he's trying to he's attempting to do it now. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's very authoritarian. Like democracy is dying on every level.
It's not going to happen. You're saying it's not going to happen. But mom, you said that about the Iran war. We're now 21 weeks in.
There's no way that this can happen with elections that people would allow him to do this. He's just yakking. Allow him to do Who? Who? Who are you talking about? Who is here to allow him? He has fired everyone.
They're gone. There is nothing stopping him. Th This is one of the main ways authoritarians take power is they come into office and then they just start firing everybody in any department that doesn't do exactly what they want. That's how we have people like Mark Wayne Mullen, Mike Johnson, uh Cash Patel, Pete Hespath,
Pete Hagsth, all of these people, they will just tell him yes to anything he wants. And that is what an authoritarian has to have that in place. So any like
I I guarantee the next election none of that will be in place. No, but even if it's not, you're missing the bigger point. He's trying to do this. He went on uh national television making that big speech on Thursday saying the elections are [ __ ] up. China came in,
they're corrupt. They tried to fix the election. Now he's like, I'm firing everybody in charge of elections. Now he's got his head of DHS saying we'll put you in [ __ ] jail if you don't do exactly what we say.
Scary. So whether it Okay, fine. But he's doing it though. He's saying these things. He believes these things. How can you support someone who wants to do these things? How can you support that?
I don't support that. That So that's another X. So everything Trump is doing, you do not support. So at what point do you not support Donald Trump?
He's still my president. Why? That as a collective, all of it doesn't matter for him in good faith. It doesn't matter. You don't You're not a loyalist to a [ __ ] president. You can be loyal to Chad and I. We're your family. That's great. [ __ ] Donald Trump, he's trying to [ __ ] you over at every turn. Why do you have to remain loyal? There is no reason. You can say, "I was wrong and I'm not going to vote for him ever again." You can say that.
That's okay. I've already told you if he would run again, I would not vote for him. I've told you that, right? But it's okay to denounce him now.
Yeah. He doesn't have to be your I'm not doing this today. I'm not doing it today. You don't You don't have to. But like in every episode that we do now, I mean, we're getting you closer. Obviously, you even you, I would think, would recognize that. You said abolish ICE, that's as leftist as it gets.
Yes. You're saying universal healthcare. That's as leftist as it gets. Can I ask you about Eugene Carol? This like eats away at me daily. He paid her $5 million because he was found guilty not only in the civil court of law, but by the Supreme Court of raping her. Why do you support him?
We've talked about that. Tell me about it now. Why do you support him? I still don't believe the lady. I know you're going to say that that the jury did. I don't believe the lady.
So, you think that the Supreme Court said pay her $5 million for shits and gigs in a civil court. It doesn't have to be proven like
Supreme Court. Yeah. It has to be like what was it? 51% or something or what? No. So you don't believe in civil court.
Yeah. Is every civil decision, but everyone else does. All other courts that she has gone through believe her. Why? Because um she was paid 10 million million dollars by who was the big Democratic foundation. lie.
None of this is real. You've been This is more propaganda. Okay. So, let's say you don't believe her. Trump has something like 30 allegations of sexual misconduct against him. Do you believe any of them?
I haven't read into every one of them, but I know you guys pound me on those every day, too. It's because the number is alarming. The number is alarming.
You can't ignore it. You yourself have seen him bragging about sexually assaulting women on that Access Hollywood tape. That's how he came into American politics by bragging about his proclivity to sexually assault women whenever he wants. And then he surrounds
he surrounds himself with people like Jeffrey Epstein. Like all of these things, you know, when you look at the collective of all of this information, does it not make you think he's a sexual predator?
I'm thinking. Let me think a while. Okay. All right. You can have another another four and a half years to think. Our next subject is is Todd Blanch. Todd Blanch, Trump's personal attorney, who was only ever supposed to be a temporary AG after Pam Bondi was fired, had his confirmation hearings this week to become the permanent attorney general. He was smug and dismissive, but did acknowledge that the DOJ made errors in their handling the Epstein files, saying approximately 1% of the redactions had to be fixed. These were mistakes that exposed survivors personal information, which victims say still remains online.
Senator Tom Tillis dropped an ultimatum. He expected Blanch to meet with Epstein survivors before he'd vote him out of the committee. Uh Blanch begrudgingly spent about an hour with survivors at DOJ that afternoon and their reviews of the meeting were scathing. Anna Annie Farmer, who testified at Maxwell's trial, called him quote abrasive, condescending, and intentionally non-committal to survivors, saying she's now quote even more confident in urging senators to vote against his confirmation. Another survivor said he treated the meeting as a quote mere check the box exercise intended to secure votes, offering no credible plan for accountability beyond Epste and Maxwell. Liz Stein called it
demoralizing and Virginia Guay's brother said there was no sense of compassion from Blanch. Despite his dismissal of the Epstein victims and his clear conflict of interest as Trump's personal lawyer, it seems likely that Republicans are going to vote to move him to a bigger confirmation vote in the full Senate. Mom, you said you didn't think Trump would have Todd Blanch be anything other than a temporary attorney general until they found somebody to replace him after uh Pam Bondi got fired.
Do you still think that? I know I said that earlier on a podcast. I don't even I don't think they will pass him in the Senate. I don't.
That's not what I asked. That's not what I asked. My question is, you thought Trump was not going to have him try to be the permanent attorney general. Do you still think that?
I was wrong apparently because they're trying he's trying to get him in there now. Correct. And why do you think he's trying to get his personal attorney to be the attorney general
to do things for him? Probably. Right. And should the attorney general be in that position where the president can just call him up and say, "Do [ __ ] for him."
No. But if you believe that, Haley believes that, aren't there going to be some Democrats that believe that and won't pass him through? That's what I'm trying to say. I don't think they're gonna they're going to vote
Republicans control the Senate to let you know they don't need the the Democrats right now though. There are I think there's two Republicans who are saying they they likely won't vote through to the next round. We don't know.
But all of that is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Trump is trying to get his personal attorney to be the permanent attorney general. Why do you think that is?
I just said that it's to protect himself. Yes. Things for him. Yes. If anybody wants to take a charge against the president, it's the attorney general.
And like I said, which Todd Bunch will not do, obviously. I don't think he's going to be um voted in. There's going to be some Republicans that turn on him.
That's fine. I you're you're missing the point here. I'm not even talking about if he's going to be the attorney general permanently or not. I'm talking about why Trump is doing this. This is a man who refused to meet with Epstein survivors for nine months,
begrudgingly he did it for an hour after on this panel at this hearing. He was told, "You have to meet with these women or we're not going to [ __ ] vote you through." So he's like, "Fine, I'll do it." They all come out of that meeting saying, "This guy's a piece of [ __ ] He was [ __ ] condescending to us. It was like a chore for him to be there. He was just checking a [ __ ] box." That's the guy that Donald Trump wants to be the attorney general for the duration,
right? So whether it happens or not, your president, Donald Trump, wants it to happen. How do you feel about that? Sickening. Okay. Okay.
Another X, you'd say. So you're against Trump on That's I was going to do a little quick tally. You're against Trump on the Iran war.
Yes. Nice. Yes, you're against Trump on ICE. You're against Trump on healthcare. You're against Trump on uh the running for a third term, which he's hinted at. You're against Trump now on Todd Blanch being the attorney general. I'm sure there's some other ones.
Hespath and [ __ ] uh Cash Patel are still going strong. Hesp. Well, speaking of Hesbth, I know. Here we go. He is our final topic. This This [ __ ] This [ __ ] is unfucking real. Unfucking real.
Demands more testosterone. Jesus Christ. After several Whoa. Mom got some guns. Holy [ __ ] Down here. But up. Mom, you mom's hitting the tea.
Damn. I got the tea in me. Got to get you in the army. After several failed attempts to appear to be an alpha male, including lifting weights on camera and doing pull-ups.
Jesus. Before I go further into this, do you remember when Paul Ryan had those [ __ ] wacky pictures come out where he had on a backwards red baseball cap and he was holding like dumbbells? What is this weird fascination with these dudes and and being like, I need to picture me lifting weights.
It's part of the whole like Andrew Tate, you know, like the online thing. Yes. It's [ __ ] repulsive. Which, by the way, even his brother just got arrested. Yeah.
Thank god. Wild. I [ __ ] hate them. Mom, I Before we get into this, I want to ask you, what does it do? You like it when you see like Pete Hegsth doing these photo shoots where he's lifting weights and stuff? Does that make you think
barely lifting weights? Let's be real. He's struggling to do those bench presses. Very stupid. Let's get to the topic. The topic is this. When you get into
Let me read this. Let me let me read this. Let me let me go through it. Okay, hang on. Are you ready? Yes. Pete Hexath has launched his latest overcompensation in the form of a mandatory testosterone testing for the military. Service members 30 and older will have their testosterone levels tested annually. Hexath called this plan the high tea Department of War. He claimed this would enable troops to have biological foundation required to sustain the fight and keeping them on the quote leading edge of lethality.
There are unanswered questions about how this is going to affect women in the military. The Pentagon didn't say whether female troops could be evaluated for estrogen based therapy and parameopause. And this is all in light of the Navy Seals having come under scrutiny in recent years for testosterone and peed use. And the Navy uh previously started drug testing specifically to screen out testosterone related substances after a recruit's death. So uh this is like literally the opposite of what is being done now in the military. So,
yes, mom. Do you think this is hormone therapy? Do you think hormone therapy should be allowed in the military? This is not hormone therapy, this is testing someone for testosterone now.
Yeah. And then injecting them with more of it. So, it's it's basically gender affirming care. Okay. And what they want to do is if you're transgender, [ __ ] you. You don't get your gender affirming care. But these [ __ ] in the [ __ ] military, we're going to make sure they're pumped full of tea.
That's not what that is saying. Okay. Number one, when you go into the military, you have to have a physical exam. Everybody has to. Whether you're a man or a woman. Yeah.
You get your phys physical exam, you get your blood work, all of that. Now, what they are saying, he wants to test testosterone in all of the men, not the women,
everybody. It's it's testing every service member. he said. Now, but they're not clear about what that means for women. That's right. It says,
well, it means they're going to try to phase women out of the military. It's all part of the white nationalist, the Christian, like this whole [ __ ] thing. They want women in the kitchen pregnant and breeding. That is what they want women to to become.
You guys jump to so many conclusions what you think. But I do think this is the most stupidest idea. Is that the right word that I've ever heard of? This is ridiculous. It says service members aged 30 and older uh will have the screening. If you're younger than 30, you don't have to have the screening. You can do it voluntarily.
And then if you aren't high enough with your big tea, you can say yes, I'll take some or not. It's ridiculous when it's ridiculous. But mom, you're you're saying the idea that what Haley was talking about that the right in America is trying to promote this idea of uh you know women should be making my dinner and having my kids. You're saying that that's crazy, but it literally comes up again and again and again. Do you remember when Trump and JD Vance were trying to float the idea of attacks for single women with no children?
No. Okay. Well, that happened last year. I think it was single cat ladies. Remember that when JD Vance said that saying basically like you're a piece of [ __ ] if you don't have if you're a woman and you don't have children.
Okay. And then you've got Erica Kirk out here telling people you need to have more babies than you can afford. Wow. Have you seen all of that [ __ ]
Erica Kirk is a whole new situation there in topic. But it's all in the same [ __ ] category. I I don't see this like, you know, when we talked to Peppermint and medically changed and all that. That's not what this is about. I do not think. I think he wants to pump up the guys with testosterone to fight.
And it's ridiculous. It's gender affirming care for men only. No one else is allowed that luxury. Just men who are low on tea because they want them all [ __ ] ranged up. And then you see this guy on Fox News, what's his [ __ ] name? Uh
he was on Fox News basically saying like once they get their tea in them, all those women on those bases better watch the [ __ ] out because they're going to be wild animals.
Literally like just perpetuating rape culture. I I didn't even think of that, Haley. I just think it's stupid. I mean, you don't have to think of it. It's being perpetuated by the right on Fox News that a big strong man can just like do what he wants.
They want women in the kitchen. They want women out of the military. Pete Husb has said as much. I haven't seen it on on Newsmax yet.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. You're just missing this as like a joke, but it's it's all part of this bigger kind of fundamental change that they're pushing constantly, which is exactly what Haley's saying. get women out of the military and back in the kitchen, back in the bedrooms. That that's what this is. And the kind of like the crazy double standard of it is that it is gender affirming care, but they are fighting tooth and nail against it for any trans people.
But like, you know, I did read like if your testosterone is low, you get fatigued. Um, you get very tired easily. All right, so let's talk about estrogen levels. Let's talk about menopause. Let's talk about the women in the military who need that kind of care as well. We're not even addressing that. Hesp said everything for the men. Women don't [ __ ] matter,
right? Trans people don't [ __ ] matter. We're literally catering to [ __ ] dudes in the military and their hormone imbalance. Okay, listen to me. Ridiculous. When I heard it, ridiculous.
So, you disagree with it? I do disagree with it. So, let's just go back through today's list of topics. We don't have to. I've disagreed with everything.
No. Right. So, ice. Let's end with some dweebing. Like, I need some of that. Dweebing. What? Whatever it's called. What do we call it? I need it.
Dweebing. Dweebing. What do we call it? Gibberish, I think you mean. Yeah. Gibberish. Okay. You disagree with ICE. Trump said he wants them back in the streets doing what they're doing. You disagree with him on that?
Yep. Okay. Beat me up. Keep going. Iran, I'm not beating you up. I'm I want to have a checklist. I'm trying to keep track of all the X's.
Iran, he has said we're going to blow up their civilian infrastructure. That's a war crime. You disagree with that? Yep. That's two for two. You disagree with his big speech. This one you might agree with him that China
[ __ ] with our election in 2020. You believe that lie? Went to the White House page and read that stuff and I did like it. I need you to understand going on. I liked it.
You need to understand the white house.gov is literally the equivalent of Newsmax. It's my favorite page. Yep. Go ahead. Okay. But you didn't read the actual document he released, which says Beijing did not interfere with election infrastructure, including vote tabulation or the transmission of election results. That's in the document he released.
Okay. Contradicting exactly what he's saying. Okay. Okay. Uh our fourth topic was Trump rigging the elections. You don't agree with him firing all these people and and saying state election officials can go to [ __ ] jail if they don't do exactly what he says, right? You don't agree with that.
Correct. All right. So, that is three out of four. Todd Blanch, you don't want him to be the permanent attorney general? No. Four out of five. And finally, Hegathth's low tea demands on the United States military you think is a joke and disagree with. So, five out of the six topics this week you are against Trump on. I got one in there. I'm hanging on by thread. It looks like
I mean, statistically, that's just ridiculous. You're like, I got that one, though. Yeah. And the one is is is the craziest thing about it to me is that one is the one that has been very credibly proven to be a complete lie by even by himself, by the very documents he he put out. Huh.
Okay. I'll go back and read that later when I have time. and by his own election official who immediately after he made that speech was on camera saying like, "No, there was no Chinese election interference."
Okay. All right. So, that's where we are. We're not pounding you. There's no pounding. We're having conversations about this stuff. I love you, Haley. I'm proud of you. I love you, Chad. I'm proud of you. Your dad says hi. He's getting stronger.
All right. I love you, too. See my shiny Heiny. I got to see shiny Heiny and I made a new friend. All right. Um, Mom, I love you. Thank you very much for doing this. We are getting you closer. Can you give us one? Let's Let's see if we can ratchet it up. Let's hear abolish Ice,
Chad. Really? Let's just hear it, please. I love it. I know, but it makes me feel it now. Now, can we ratchet that up? Can we get a [ __ ] ice? No, we ain't ratcheting that up today.
Okay. Okay, I'll take a bolish Ice. Thank you. If I send you a Hive Bakery Buckeye t-shirt, would you wear it or Ching Lamigra?
What is Chinga Lamingra? It basically means [ __ ] I would like the other one probably. You'll wear it. Yeah, I will. All right,
Haley, I love you. I'm also very proud of you. Uh, it's incredible to watch all the social media you're posting and that you're selling out all your stuff instantaneously is absolutely awesome. I think and dad, I love him, too. I'm glad he's getting stronger.
Don't forget the small people, Haley around you. Okay. The [ __ ] Me and Chadley. Uh, love you, mom. Tell dad I love him. Chad, I love you. I uh I don't know. It's been crazy. It's been two weeks of literally lines like out the door around the complex and into the parking lot and we are um we're making I calculated like six to seven times what we usually would in a day.
Wow. And busy. It's it's not sustainable. There's only 10 of us doing this and you know everybody has their jobs and we can't all kind of like do everybody's everything. But uh
you're busy be Yeah. I'm hoping to get I'm in this thing is ongoing for months and months. It's like [ __ ] with the town and parking and all these things, but there's a building that we're trying to get into that I'm hoping by next week we'll have like some definitive answers, but we're trying to get into a bigger space because I need more
room um to grow. So, cross your [ __ ] fingers, your fingies. But yeah, it's already happened. You just have to live through it.
Like Chad said before, gotta jump. I gotta jump, everybody. Time to jump. Jump. I remember one time Chad had to get out of a podcast. He said, "I gotta jump."
I gotta jump. Gotta jump. Is that what you say? I don't think I've ever said that, but uh I'll find. Thank you all for joining us. I will be back tonight at 6 PM PST. Is anybody joining me for a live show?
Not tonight. I can't. I might be able to. We'll see. We'll see. I'll be working. As will I. I'm moving back to the original time now that Love Island is over. Congratulations to Tribonicity on their big win.
Uh redefining reality dating formats as we know it. So, join me tonight 6 p.m. PST. Thank you everybody for joining us now and we will also be back Wednesday with another episode just you and me mom probably talking about
y whatever [ __ ] Trump is doing this week. Thanks for joining us. Bye. Am I uploaded?