Is Trump Going To Pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule. Now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culture. With me today is a singular person. Yo yo >> my mom. Everybody else has abandoned us. Mom, how does it make you feel? >> Let's Let's start this right. I have been on every podcast except one that I was really really ill. >> Yeah, >> I am the only one that's only missed one. I think your sister has probably missed >> the most. >> The most, >> but we'll just be clear about that. >> And your father is constantly gone. Your father's missing a few now just due to his new hip, but we'll call him in in a second so y'all know he's still in the podcast. He loves the podcast. He's just got some some uh healing to do, but he'll be in to say hi in a minute because he >> Yeah. Okay. >> Well, it is an interesting opportunity, Mom, because this podcast started. Do you know the date that it started? I mean, you do because I put it in this document, but >> No, I didn't look. August 17th, 2022. We are fast approaching our three-year anniversary. And we started this podcast almost three years ago with just you and me. We were the very first episode, nobody else. And the original concept of this podcast was maybe just going to be you and me every week. But uh if you go back and listen to that first episode, I believe the first question I even asked you, dad immediately jumped in and was screaming the answers from the background immediately. So, uh he didn't even allow us to have that first episode. Just you and me. Perhaps we'll get to have that today. But I thought it would be fun. Well, first of all, do you have diddies? >> Um I do, but I think we might be talking about some of them. >> Are we talking about any of these? If not, I can pull one diddy out. Are we talking about um Camala Harris's book 107 days? >> I did not put that down. No. >> Okay. It's pretty funny. Are we talking about the American Eagle ad with um the beautiful girl? >> Uh I did not put that in there. No. >> Okay. We could That can be my diddy. I kind of like that one. >> All right. >> And then uh the Hunter Biden crazy town interview. I did not put that down. >> Oh my lord. Did you see that, Chad? >> Uh I don't Is it the one where he's cussing? >> It was a Channel 5 interview. Yes. This guy named Andrew uh Callahan interviewed him. >> Yeah. >> That the one thing that I took out of that that I'm still laughing about. Yeah. He was cursing, >> going crazy. He did talk about his crack crack cocaine days. And he said that uh this interviewer asked him, "Well, where do you get that? Where do you go to get that?" Well, very dangerous places of the city, he said. >> And it just got to be so dangerous, he said, that I had to learn how to make it myself. >> Wow. >> I'm still giggling, but yeah. >> Crack cocaine. I wonder whose that was in the White House. No one's told me yet. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Those the diddies. Uh, let's go back to Sydney Sweeney. >> Okay. >> Have you heard the big uproar about this? >> I still have not seen the commercial, but yes, I have heard about it. It's something about it's a jeans commercial. I don't know what the brand is, right? >> American Eagle. >> It's American Eagle. And she's saying my I have good jeans cuz I have blonde hair and blue eyes. It's like uh eugenics kind of white supremacist [ __ ] >> Okay. No, that's not my take at all on it. >> Okay. He said, "I have good jeans on or whatever because she is a beautiful girl. She's a beautiful woman." >> Um why why wouldn't people jump on board and say, "Yeah, look at her in those cool jeans. She is beautiful." Um >> isn't she talking about her blonde hair and blue eyes in it? >> No, she's talking about she has good jeans. She's a beautiful woman. Who brought up the the blue eyes and the blonde hair? I thought that was part of the ad. >> No. >> Doesn't she Have you seen the ad? >> I haven't seen it either. >> I've seen a couple of ads. She's in a couple now for him because they're a very smart company >> and their stock is going up and she's selling lots of jeans for them. This is the new normal. What's wrong with this? She's beautiful. Why not be able to sell jeans with a beautiful woman in it? >> I don't think anybody cares that there's a a pretty actress in a commercial trying to sell you [ __ ] Obviously, that's happened since the dawn of time. I again, I am I'm speaking a little bit out of turn here cuz I have not seen this ad, but I've I've read a little bit about it. The things people are pissed at are that she's saying, "My jeans are better than yours," basically, and she's blondhaired, blue-eyed, white girl. So, inherently, what she's saying is racist. But there's also more to the story if I am understanding it right. I think I believe I could be completely wrong here. I believe she got in trouble for having some birthday party for her mom that had proTrump [ __ ] in it. And now I believe it's come out that she's a registered Republican. >> Okay. I didn't I don't see any of that with the blue eyes, the blonde hair. I see that she's a beautiful girl selling jeans just like uh what was it the 80s or 90s? Brook Shields in her jeans. Uh Sandy Crawford was in a commercial selling uh wasn't it Pepsi in her beautiful jeans? >> Yeah. >> Uh the woke side, the woke people are mad at this >> and I don't understand why. Just because they're not beautiful. Uh I don't understand it. >> What are you talking about? They're not >> How about Joe Nameoth selling panty hoes? Who cares? >> He was beautiful everywhere. >> Yes, he was beautiful, too. She's bringing normal back. Okay, here. Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My jeans are blue. So, she's talking about her blue eyes there. I know it's like a a double on tandra. >> I I totally disagree with you. She's talking about the blue jeans that she's wearing on her butt. >> She literally says often determining traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My jeans are blue. She is hinting at her blue eyes. Blondhaired, blue-eyed. Genetic supremacy has a I I think you would agree a pretty well doumented history of being very bad in our world. That attitude. >> That's because you're woke. And that's the way you see this commercial. I see it as nothing but a company that's smart trying to sell nice jeans on a beautiful woman. >> Well, the bottom line is she's now associated with this. I I know she didn't write that ad, but she did say the words like she she read the ad, you know. Um I don't know if there's any fallout happening to the ad agency that made this ad. Maybe American Eagle is seeing some backlash as a brand, but I'm curious to see what's going to happen to her career as a result of this now because I do think it will be effective. >> It's going to be fine. It's going to explode. It's going to bring money to the company. >> We'll see. To me, this is refreshing after the last four years we've been through. Okay. With the Miller Light stuff, that kind of commercials or the commercials were their big >> the Miller Light stuff. >> Oh, what was the the um God, what was the name? Uh Mulaney popping the Miller Light cans. >> It was Blight. Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm sorry. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Ridiculous. >> We're back to normal. I like it. Woke is broke. Woke is out of here. I like that. >> All right. Um, well, thank you for your diddies. Now, I thought it would be fun to kind of do a little retrospective. We're going to have a couple of political topics, but first, I wanted to ask you some questions about this very podcast. Like I said, it started with you and me sitting here just like this. Maybe our mics have gotten a little bit better, cameras have gotten a little bit better, but it's still the core of it is us talking to each other. And I wanted to ask you some questions about these past three years, if you don't mind. I don't mind. And I can't believe three years. Wow. >> Wow. >> Try to put yourself back in that place of when I initially called you and said, "Hey, I'm thinking about doing this. Do you want to do it?" Why did you say yes to doing this? Why did you want to do this? >> Well, I really didn't want to because I was afraid. I really didn't want to. >> I forced you to. >> Yeah. No, I did it because you're my son and you asked me to do it and that's why I did it. >> Okay. >> That is the truth. I would do anything that you and Haley would ask me to do. >> Okay. >> But I was standing in the kitchen. I got the phone call from you there. We we talked about it a couple times, but the very first phone call after I hung up and you asked me if if we could do this, I was like, he's crazy. He's batshit crazy. >> That that you know, I said, "But Chad, I I don't think I'm smart enough. I don't, you know, I do follow politics, but I'm afraid I would come across crazy. And I said, maybe if you give me topics ahead where I could read a little bit and research, maybe. But then we hung up and I was like, ah, who's going to watch us? Five whole people. You know, who's going to watch us? >> For about two and a half years, it was Five Whole People. Um, and then I took over our social media from you about five months ago and and we've started to put together a little bit of an audience now. But um yeah, for the first two and a half years of this podcast, I don't know if people know this at all. Literally no one was listening to us. It was just us talking to each other. We had, you know, maybe like 1500 people were were checking out the show every week or whatever. You were on the social media accounts just posting weird pictures of horses and American flags and [ __ ] >> There was one time, let's see, well, no, you said you told me if you want to start the Instagram account, that's fine. I'm busy with my other podcast. Just do what you want to do. So, I started the account and then there were times when no one could be on for the week. So, I would just go walking out. I walk every morning and I would walk in the morning, have my phone on me and say, "I'm sorry, friends. We can't podcast in my jogging clothes. I'm sorry. This week, everybody's real busy. They're off to bigger and better things, but we'll see you next week. Thanks for listening." Remember those? >> Yeah, totally. Absolutely. Um kept us going. I kept us alive. >> Okay. Let me ask you this. Are you glad that almost three years ago now you did say yes to do this. >> Some days yes, some days it was hard and no. Okay. You told me also on that very first phone call, you said, "Are you prepared? Some people are going to just love you. >> Some people are going to like you. >> Some people will not like you at all." I said, "Chad, everybody will like me." What are you talking about? Uh, I see some of that now >> when I Yeah, but I I don't read comments anymore >> when it we first started. And you told me don't read the comments, but I read some of them. And that's how I have also got two very good friends. >> What kind of friends are they called, Chad? I always forget. >> You call them your patriots or something? >> No, my friends from the internet. You call them something. >> Oh, parasocial. >> Yeah, parasocial friends. If you're talking to these people, if you're DMing them and stuff, that's not parasocial. >> Okay? >> Parasocial is when you're just watching somebody on a screen and you feel like you know them because they're talking into a camera like this. It's the primary type of relationship we all now have with celebrities, news anchors, anybody that you watch on social media. >> Okay. I know those people we do DM and I have helped both of them with their families and talking through politics and uh being able to have conversations and they're very nice people and I I remember you telling me be very careful if you do talk to someone, you know, >> so um but they they've turned out to be very good friends and very nice. I try now not to read comments. I really don't because probably I don't know six months ago I got death threats. They called me magga scum. They've wished me and Bob six foot under. And when people start saying that to me uh then I'm like oh should we have done this podcast? I don't know. >> All right. Interesting. So a 50/50. Do you think doing this podcast for three years has changed your mind on any issue? Not just like the big ones like voting for Trump, but like on any thing we've ever discussed. I know we're now talking about the Epstein files a little bit. We're going to be talking about that later in this episode. Has and your mind last week seemed like it was on the edge a little bit like maybe if he winds up in those Epstein files, you would be against Trump. Is there anything that you can think of where your mind has changed? Well, I I am not for child uh pedophile people or predators and things, >> of course. But you never were. That that's not a mind changing. >> So, what are you um like me going to the other side to be a liberal? No, that's never going to happen. >> I know. I remember there have been some issues where you've disagreed with what Trump is doing here and there. >> Um I've questioned some things lately. I have questioned. >> Okay. So maybe the podcast is helping you uh open your eyes a little bit. Do you think our relationship, you and me or our whole family, you, me, dad, Haley, do you think our relationship has gotten better because of this podcast? >> I Well, no. I mean, I think >> back think back before we did this when we were not talking. >> Okay. But again, you told we had a reporter ask us this question. We we did not talk for approximately four and a half months that was due to Obama. You and Haley both thought it was a year. I don't think it was that long. >> No, cuz you got to take into context. It's not just literally not talking. It's like when we would come to visit you guys for a birthday or Christmas or whatever, it would be me and Haley sitting in that couch just [ __ ] staring straight ahead while dad screamed in our faces about whatever the political thing was that week. and Fox News or now Newsmax but then Fox News would be on both TVs just [ __ ] blaring. There was no like meaningful interaction. >> I think we have learned that this is the podcast we do it here and outside the podcast it's family >> and that's the best way to do it. >> Yeah. So you do then think this has helped? >> Yes. And I do believe the people that watch us on this podcast only see a tiny tiny piece of what our family is all about. >> Yeah. >> You know, weekly when Bob gets on here and we're all on here and Haley and we're yelling and saying, "F you. That's not right. I don't believe it." That's not our family. That's not who we are. >> Yeah. >> Well, it is. At least for this hour. Now, I want to play you a clip from our very first episode. >> Oh, okay. And we can discuss this again. This was almost 3 years ago. Are you ready for this clip? >> Yeah. >> Here we go. >> There are things there are lines that you think Trump could cross where you wouldn't vote for him again. >> No, I'll always vote for him. I think >> even if he commits a crime, an open crime that he's found guilty of. >> No. I mean, he's not going to be found of an open crime for for starters. I will always vote for Trump. Always. And even if he is found guilty of a crime, you would then think that that that finding of guilt is false. >> I would have to see the exactly what the crime was and >> somebody >> other than the present administration prosecuting and exactly what the crime was. That's Yeah, that's what I would have to say. >> Believe Adam [ __ ] [ __ ] Okay, he's got to [ __ ] chill out. I Please tell him. I'm going to invite him into the show eventually. I just want to have a conversation with you to kick it off. >> Okay. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah. Dad calls him the Bing crime family. >> Okay. So, even back in that first episode, Dad is yelling in the background even though it was supposed to be just you and me. Um, but the question still remains. I thought it was an interesting question in our first episode. I just went back and listened to the whole thing last night. There's a bunch of interesting stuff in there. I highly recommend if you like this show at all, go back and check out that first or the first three episodes really are the history of kind of like my mom, my dad, and my sister, all of our political leanings. But obviously, even in the first episode 3 years ago, we were kind of like right there in the thesis of what this show is. Is there any way your mind could be changed about Trump? I asked you this question. Do you is there an answer to it now that you feel is different in any way? >> No, I I listened to every word I said. That's how I feel today. The same. I would have to see what the crime was. See um Yeah. See them. >> Okay. >> See what happened, where it happened, what's going on, who has the stuff on him. >> Mhm. >> And from what outlet? There are so many outlets now that report things that are true that are not true. Where do you get your information from? Where do we get our information from? >> Of course. Um, well, let me ask you this. You know, this idea that I know you want Trump to have unfettered power, to be completely in control of the entire government, no checks, no balances. What do you think that America looks like if that happens? He's close to doing it now. We still have the the legal system, you know, the the judges, the courts are still pushing back. They're still saying, "No, you can't do this. No, you can't do that." That does seem to be getting shakier and shakier. He has completely obliterated Congress. There is no uh balance there. No check. And so our our legal system really is the only thing left. If that goes, he will be a full dictator. He can do whatever he wants at any time. What do you think that America looks like? I can't believe that you would even say that, Chad. He is the president of our United States. >> Yeah. >> He's doing what he feels right to make our country safe, to make us uh >> I I'm not disputing that. I'm not disputing that. I'm saying in America there's this system of three branches of government, executive, legislative. >> What's that? >> You bring this up every time. >> Great. >> Yes. So the way it's supposed to work is each of those system, each of those branches checks and balances the other one so that one of them doesn't get completely out of control and take over everything. Well, right now >> Congress, the legislative branch is gone. Trump has destroyed it. He has full control of it, passing the big beautiful bill, anything he wants just rams right through. The judicial system is still checking him here and there. There are people filing filing lawsuits against his administration. There are judges blocking some of exe his executive orders. The Supreme Court is trying to curtail that even. And if that happens, he'll have absolute power, which I believe you want for him, right? You want him to be able to sign an executive order and it goes into effect immediately. No one can challenge it, right? >> All presidents have done that. Why would he be any different? >> No president has done that. >> No president has had unfettered power. >> How many Let's see. How many executive orders did Biden do on the very first day that he was president? Like over a hundred. This is This is absurd. Trump has done more than any president times 10. >> Okay, all presidents do that. They pardon anybody and everybody they want. >> Trump pardoned almost 1600 people on January 6. No president has done that. >> We went we watched that video last week about how all of these dudes that he pardoned are now violent criminals. >> Some of them were before they were pardoned. >> There were some that Biden did the same, too. So, you always make it bad for Trump when it's bad for the other presidents, too. But you always throw Trump in my face. >> I'm not making it bad. I'm saying, what do you think that America looks like if Trump finally gets rid of the judiciary and can do whatever he wants? >> I think our America our America will be strong again. We will have the greatest military. >> What does that look like? Tell me what that looks like on a day-to-day basis. You're saying these weird just like we will have the strongest military and everything will be great. What does it actually look like when Trump has no checks in your mind? >> Like what I'm trying to tell you, the greatest military ever. >> And what does that mean? The greatest military ever. What does that mean? >> Closed. Our border right now is almost closed. >> Okay. >> Not allow other people in that should not be here. >> Okay. >> And so how does that change your day-to-day life? >> It makes the street that I live on safer. What has happened on your street that makes you feel unsafe? >> Um, there are uh robberies that uh people's homes are getting broken into. Okay. >> People's cars might get broke into on my street >> and they're not from people that live in my community either. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um Well, >> okay. >> If I may, this is how it's going to look if this happens. if it goes down. And I think we're probably leaning more toward it actually happening than not. >> I don't think he could slip us into a North Korea style dictatorship because we have the internet and we've had it for a long time. So, I think there's there's some leeway. There's some like song and dance he's going to have to do to make it appear as though we still have free will in this country, that there still is freedom of speech, elections. I think it'll be much more like Russia where he will be able to openly incarcerate or kill anybody who desents against him, any political opposition like Putin does. >> You're crazy, Chad. >> He's already doing it. He's already trying to arrest senators and stuff. >> Oh, killing people. Yeah, I think you're looking at the wrong president for that. >> Obama and Clintons. Obama's and Clintons. I mean, there's more evidence coming out now that that assassination attempt was fake and that the guy they killed was just like, "We got to kill somebody to make it look real." >> That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous that you would say that. It makes me very mad that you would say that. >> All right. I'm just saying that if he gets to the place you want him to get where there are no governmental restrictions to anything he can do, he signs an executive order, it goes into effect immediately without anyone checking it. We are going to be living in a Russia type scenario where all opposition is killed or jailed where all of the money gets sucked straight to him and whoever his most loyal inner cabinet is. That's already kind of happening. We're seeing it in real time >> and we don't have any elections anymore. Any real elections. We will still be a democracy, but he'll win every election. >> Your father wants to say hi. Is that okay? >> Yeah, of course. >> Okay, let me holler at him. Bob. Bob. come in and say hi. >> All right. Nothing like a >> It'll take five minutes for him to get in here, so keep talking next segment. >> Well, I have a listener question that I wanted to play. >> Would he be able to answer it? >> Sure. >> Let him hobble in here. >> Oh my god. There there's nothing like waiting on someone to hobble into a room on a podcast and just kill >> Let me say this. Thank you. A lot of people have DM' me and I do read some of those. I don't read comments on our podcast, but I do get a few DMs and they have said very nice things and get well wishes for Bob, for Kitty. So, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for being nice. >> All right, we cannot wait for him to hobble. >> He's coming, Bob. >> We have to continue the show. >> He's coming. He's yelling. >> Well, I'm going to start this question now. All right. >> All right. >> Is he like, how close is he to the door? This is insane. >> Let me look. Stay there. Let me go look. >> Oh, god. that I said there's nothing like waiting on a guy to hobble into a room to kill a podcast. Also nothing like the only other person on the podcast speaking leaving the room. >> It might be a while. Go ahead and hit that. Go ahead and hit the listener question. >> Hi Cultton family. My name is Casey. I'm from Chicago. I got to see Chad at Paul which was great. Um I am curious my question is specifically for Chad and Haley. um as you've had conversations with your parents kind of sort of countering some of the their narratives around like the rapists, the murderers, um you both of you have sort of espoused that um there are quote rapists and murderers in the US that should be in in prison. Um given your purported leftist views, um I'm curious if you believe in prison abolition. Um if there are limits for you, uh or sort of what your um uh vision or uh tolerance level for a carceral carceral system is. Um thanks so much for the continued conversations. Um yeah. >> All right, Mom. What do you think of that? Is our prison system working as it should be? Are you for how the prison system works now? >> Um, no. Because people that commit crimes go in and get out real quick. I want harsher prisons. I want it once they commit a crime, if it's bad, they're going to stay in there for a while. >> Interesting. Unless you're the January 6th people who get pardoned. >> What? >> Unless you are January 6th insurrectionist, then you get pardoned. >> Yeah. Right. >> We're going to talk about Galileain Maxwell in just a moment as well. Remember you said that, Mom. >> Can you sit down in this chair? >> I'm not trying to stand. >> Okay. He's going to stand. Okay. >> Dad, welcome. Looks like you're doing good after the hip surgeries. Hi. >> Can you duck down a little bit or not? There you go. >> Don't Don't push it. You're fine. You don't have to duck down. How are you doing? Tell everybody, please, about your hip surgeries. >> Worse. >> Worse. What are you worse about? Well, I'm standing up. >> Oh, >> okay. Well, you look like at least you're getting around all right. It's this is only a couple of days after the surgery. So, >> he just wanted to let everybody know he is still on the podcast. He's not six foot under. He's up and moving and he'll be back for good probably in a week. >> All right. I don't know if you want to contribute to this thing. We're we're answering a listener question right now who asks, "Is our prison system working as it should be? Should we change it? Should we not have it at all?" First, we should have our prison system. >> All right. >> I said make it harder. I said it needs to be tougher or they don't get released so quick. >> Yeah. 85% of your sentence. >> Yeah. Here is how I would do it. I don't agree with with the way we currently have a prison system. Currently, it's for profit. The more bodies you have in a prison, the more money you make if you're the private company that owns that prison. Um, so they are incentivized to keep people in as long as possible. Actually, mom, you're wrong about that. And they are incentivized to have people in those prisons whether they committed the crimes or not. If you have a body in that jail cell, you are getting federal subsidy money. And the companies by and large that own the for-profit prisons in this country are giant billionaire style prisons just making money off the backs of people that are there. It's a completely broken and corrupt system just like our our political system in this country. This is how I would run prisons if I was in charge of all of it. I do believe we need a place to put people who are breaking the social contract in a way that is violent and malevolent and they have kind of proven that they're going to do that again and again. This is exactly how I would do it. Uh same kind of court system. Clean it up if you can, but whatever. You get to go to a trial. You get to have a lawyer and you get to be judged by a jury of your peers on whether or not you are innocent or guilty of whatever your crime is that you're being charged with. If you are guilty of that crime, you then go in front of a board of 100 people on a jury. Each one of those people, what are you doing? >> That's crazy. You got to change laws for all of that. >> No [ __ ] That's the whole point of this. Our laws suck. Um, you go in front of a jury, if you're found guilty, you go in front of a jury of a hundred people. Each one of those people has two points they can allocate. You can give some Are you okay? >> You're crazy, Chad. >> You can give >> Dad said it'll never fly. >> Obviously, it's too good. um you get to allocate either zero, one or two points to the person found guilty. If that person ever acrews 200 points, they go immediately to jail potentially for life. >> Monopoly. >> What's that? >> Go to jail. Monopoly. Go to jail. >> Potentially. >> But if they acrew anything less than 200 points, >> they are released immediately. Good to see you, Dad. to be free >> back out into >> I will be back. >> I will be back. >> All right. We we believe you. Uh if you receive less than 200 points, you are free to go back out into the population and you acrew those points. You keep them on your person. So if you commit multiple crimes, if you like steal a car and let's say you get like 25 points for that, you now have 25 points on your record. If you commit another crime and you come back and you're ever acrewed over 200 points, you go to jail. That's how I would do it personally. So then you have the ability like if somebody comes in and commits a murder, everybody on that 100 person jury is probably going to give them two points and they immediately go to jail. >> But if they are selling drugs or doing something that's nonviolent, they probably won't acrew 200 points, probably won't go to jail, but they will know, oh [ __ ] if I do one more crime, I might. I would I would have some system like this in place where the jury actually kind of gets to determine if you go to jail or not. I think there are so many people in jail for stuff that is not harmful to society, stuff maybe they didn't even do. Again, it's just that for-profit prison system where um you know, public defenders know that they are up against a mountain of super high-powered attorneys in most cases and DAs all they care about is getting that guilty verdict. whether the person is guilty or not, that is their entire job. So, I hope that's answered your question. And now we have to move on to our very first topic. It's a little late in the show, but because we were talking about prisons, I thought it would be fun to talk about Gileain Maxwell. Glenn Maxwell was recently relocated from FCI Tallahassee, a lowsecurity prison in Florida, to the federal prison camp in Brian, Texas, a minimum security facility with limited or no perimeter fencing and dormator dormatory style housing. Such transfers are typically based on security classification and release planning. The transfer occurred about a week after Maxwell sat for a two-day interview with Trump's deputy attorney general Todd Blanch who questioned her about the Epstein list and she reportedly gave information about the list to Blanch. It's widely believed that Maxwell is trying to bargain for a full pardon from Trump Trump which he has not ruled out. Maxwell's transfer has sparked outrage from many of Epsteors and their families. One of those families is Virginia Guys. She was one of Epste's victims and worked at Trump's Mara Lago. Um, do you think, Mom, that Maxwell deserves to be serving her sentence in a minimum security prison? >> No. >> Exactly. This goes back to what you just said about prison should be stricter, harder, harsher. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, you disagree with what Trump is doing here. >> Yes. I don't know why she was moved. Why did they move her other than >> they're getting ready to partner? >> Well, that is not right. They should not do that. >> Trump is going to do it. Like I've said before, I truly think all this Epstein stuff was within our government and it was a way to catch other people, put pressure on them, and say, "Look what we have on you now. You better sing or we're going to show people what we have on you." I And I think our government was involved in this. I truly do. >> You don't think Trump was? >> Well, you're saying his name was in there. Everybody's saying it was in there. >> It's being reported. That's one of our our topics. We're going to get to that. Let me I want to play you a clip. I I felt like that was kind of effective last week. So, I want to play you a clip right now. This is Virginia Guy and her family. She is, as you may know, no longer with us. >> I know who that is, but Okay, go ahead and play it and then I have some things to say. >> Okay, here we go. >> Was recruited at a very young age from Mara Lago and entrapped in a world that I didn't understand. For years, I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein. I wouldn't talk because he did something that was inappropriate. He hired help and I said, "Don't ever do that again." He stole people that work for me. >> Mr. President, did one of those stolen um you know persons that include Virginia? >> Uh I don't know. I think she worked at the spa. >> I think so. I think that was one of the people. Yeah. He He stole her. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know. >> She wasn't stolen. Uh she was prayed upon at his property, at President Trump's property. And I think it's very important that we don't treat it like stolen seems very impersonal. It feels very much like an object. And these survivors are not objects. Women are not objects. Um, and it certainly um makes you kind of ask the question, you know, how much he knew during that time, right? >> Okay. So, that was Virginia Guy talking about the trauma she suffered at the hands of Epstein. It was then Trump saying that she was an object and stolen from him by Epste, but she worked in my spa. Also, we now know when she was in quote stolen by Epstein, she was underage. So that means she was working at Mara Lago underage in the spa. We then heard after Trump says those two things that was Virginia Guy's family saying um she's not an object. Mom, do you believe she was stolen a stolen object? Do you think that's good language to describe her? >> I saw that clip. It was on Instagram and after that then I did some investigating. >> Do you realize this is what the investigation that I looked through things brought up that she was hired at the spa there at Trump Spa and that job was um given to her. Her father helped her get that job. Her father worked there on the grounds as a gardener. >> Mhm. and he asked for employment for his daughter. >> Okay. >> So, the father helped her get the job there. >> I don't know about any of this. I'm going to Google this right now. >> Neither did I until I investigated and saw it. Then from that point, when Trump said she was stolen, it was when Epstein would come there and try to recruit girls. >> Then Trump said, "Don't do that or you're not coming back." Then Trump threw him out. He was taking employees that that Trump had there at the spa. That's the way I interpret it. I don't know. I'm not her. I always say this at the end. This is just my opinion. >> Yeah. >> But when I did read that her father helped her get the job there with Trump >> and then she went from there to Epstein. >> That's my opinion. >> Well, >> and I'm sorry that she committed suicide and she's dead. I am really sorry for her family. It's terrible. >> Of course, the whole situation is terrible. But >> you can see now what what I'm trying to do here with this is you can see Trump was involved in this. He knew that she worked in the spa. He knew that Jeffrey Epste took her at that time. We don't have evidence of this, but it's likely that most people knew what Jeffrey Epste was up to with young girls. >> Yeah. And he never was asked to come back. And that's what Trump said. >> Never asked to come back. He stole this woman, as Trump said. Well, >> Trump had to have known what that was for. >> By saying he stole her, I think he meant by employment. He employed her. He said, "Come on, come to my place. I'll pay you back." >> But it even shows the mindset of Trump is that she was something he owned, something he possessed, and Epstein stole her. >> He took an employee from his. >> That is not what Trump said. He used the word stole. >> Well, he didn't use the right lingo there. >> All right. Well, speaking of the right lingo, I want to play a clip from Newsmax. >> Wait a minute. If you also go back to like I think it was a 2016 when she started um transcripts and started to talk >> and they asked her, did you did Donald Trump ever hurt you in any way? No, >> they asked. >> But he's also Donald Trump is accused by another woman of raping her when she was 13 >> with Epstein. So, who are you gonna believe? >> Exactly. Okay. >> All right. I want to play you a clip from your beloved Newsmax. >> Yes. >> Are you ready? >> I'm ready. >> Here we go. >> Lanch is the deputy attorney general, the number two ranking official in the Justice Department, and he's about to meet with Jeffrey Epstein's exgirlfriend in prison, Galileain Maxwell, to find out what she knows. Let's Let's find out what is this all about. And she's also been subpoenaed uh by the oversight committee. I think this is great. I do have a feeling that she has been she just might be a victim. She just might be. There was a rusted judgment. There was a lot of chaos there for a while. All right. Granted, she hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. And I know that's apparently not good, but she's in jail for how long now? 20 years. A 20ear sentence. >> All right. Do you watch that guy, Greg Kelly? Yes. >> You like him? >> Yeah. >> Do you agree with him that Galileain Maxwell is a victim? >> What does he mean by that? That's what I didn't understand. >> That she has been set up. There's another clip of him talking about how he thinks this whole thing was a setup and she might not have known anything. And because Epstein killed himself, they had to pin it on somebody. And so she took the fall. >> Oh, no. She knew. and about what two podcasts ago when you and Haley were just like squirming and so excited that Trump might be on the list. You know, I think it's so funny that you guys are so excited now about the list. Um, >> it's not us excited about it. That that has been a rightwing talking point for years. You are drooling over it. Anyway, I said about two podcasts ago, why don't they ask her? Why don't we get to the bottom of it? She knows. They did ask her. His deputy attorney general went in there and basic that I think this is why they moved her. She's like, "Fine, I'll give you information on everybody that's not Trump, but I need special treatment. Move me to a better facility." It literally was a quit proquo. >> Why out of your mouth right now did you say, "I'll give you information on everybody but Trump?" >> Because that's what they're telling her. They're saying, "We need you to come out publicly and give names and exonerate Trump." Trump is all over the Epstein files. One of the topics that I wanted to cover uh in today's show, but I I don't know if we're going to have time, was the fact that he had the FBI redact his name in the Epstein files. That reporting came out this week. >> You were talking about that earlier. I have not seen that. Now, of course, that probably wouldn't be on Newsmax, but I haven't seen it. I I haven't seen it anywhere. >> All you got to do is Google. >> Google. Okay. >> All right. >> Just for the record. >> She holds the key. She knows what happened. Yeah, >> I don't think she's going to flip and say, "Okay, I'll give you all the names, but Trump's." No, >> she's going to tell the truth. Let's hope she >> tell the truth. She's lied hundreds of times on the stand under oath already. >> All right. Well, she's I don't >> This is a woman whose entire life was based on lying, hiding the truth to keep Epstein safe, to keep herself safe. They were engaged in one of the largest criminal practices of child sex trafficking maybe the world has ever seen, at least in the in the modern era of humanity, right? >> And her whole job was going to public functions, big fundraisers where there are a lot of rich people, and smiling and shaking hands and pretending like they didn't have an island of children that they were sexually assaulting. >> She should be in prison for the rest of her life. >> But I'm saying whatever she says, >> pardons her, that could change the tune on me cuz that's not right. Okay. Now, and also I I researched I went back it said that Bill Clinton during his presidency and I know you're saying we're not talking about him, but yeah, that's kind of important. >> I guess Epstein came to the White House 17 times when Clinton was there and one day he was there three or four times in one day. Why would he be there? >> I have no doubt Bill Clinton is just as guilty as Trump. >> And they don't want any of this released because then he's going to go down. Of course, none of them want anything released. >> So maybe she was moved so that the Clintons can't kill her now >> to a a minimum security prison. It seems it would be easier to kill her where she is now than >> to a fake suicide or something. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. >> All right. Our next topic is going to be Gaza, but I want to do our simmer down right now. We're already 45 minutes into this. So, >> wow. Mom, you had a simmer down idea that you wanted to do. >> I wanted to ask you, I wanted everybody to be on this to ask them because I don't know what they would say. Maybe we can do this next week, too. >> The question is, >> in your lifetime, >> when were you the most scared in your life? So scared like that, you would think you were gonna die, you couldn't breathe, you were pooping your pants, that kind of scared. >> Okay. When were you the most scared ever in your whole life? >> Do you want me to go first or you want me? >> I would love for you to go first, Chad. >> I would say probably there was a period when I had cancer where you immediately are like diagnosed with it and it's like, oh [ __ ] we got to have operations and immediately you start treatment. And it, at least for me, it was like a little too frantic to like really have it settle in like what was happening. I was just like, "Fuck it. I got to go to this doctor. They're cutting my face off. Oh [ __ ] I hope I don't look like a monster. You know, I hope they get it all. Whatever. That there was no fear in. It was just kind of like autopilot mode. Got to do what you got to do. But then when I had subsequent testing, like about a week after all the surgeries, there's a point where they're seeing if the cancer has spread through your body and they're doing all these these tests, different contrast uh MRIs and CT scans and injecting radioactive particles into your bloodstream, all this [ __ ] And there's a period where you're waiting for those results and you know if they're bad, if it's spread to like your lymph nodes or something, you're dead. And so you're just sitting there waiting like, well, hope the news is good. And I would say that's probably the most scared I've ever been. But it also was like extremely freeing because it forced me to kind of like uh come to terms with my mortality in that moment and be like, h well, [ __ ] I had a pretty good life. If this is it, you know, if I got like six more months until cancer consumes my whole body, so be it. Uh, I'll try and write one more book and go out, you know, saying something, I guess. But there were there was a period of like maybe a day where I was like, [ __ ] I could really have cancer everywhere in my body. This could be it. And that was pretty scary. How about you? >> Yeah, that that is terrible. That was a terrible time. And I know I've been trashed on the podcast for this. It was a terrible time for you, but it was a terrible time for me, too. It was terrible. It was terrible. Yeah. But you're cancer free. You're on the other side. >> Well, nobody's cancer free. >> Well, I know you say I >> Everybody has microtumors. Literally, every animal on this planet has microtumors. And you're just sitting there waiting with these ticking time bombs in your body to have the circumstances coalesce that will allow them to explode into a cancerous tumor. >> And now too, since the co and everybody got those shots, there's a lot of tumors now popping up that shouldn't be. Okay, >> I'll just let that go there. Okay. My most >> because some people don't believe it. I truly do. We had friends that died from that goddamn shot. We had a >> one of your dad's closest friends. >> Okay. So, it is 1981. Haley is, let's see, April, May. >> I remember this. >> April, May, June. April to May to June. Two and a half months old. You would been what? Four. >> This I don't remember actually. >> You would have been four. >> Mhm. Um, it started raining approximately at midnight and I told your dad, "It's raining hard." He's like, "Go to bed." So, we all go to bed. 4:00 I had to get up, I think, with uh Wall-E. >> Was it We have Wall-E then? Yeah. It was one of the dogs. And I like I couldn't get him out the back door because there was so much water out there. I was like, "What?" And I said something again to your dad. He goes, "Go to bed." Now, it's 7:30 in the morning. We all woke up. I open the front door and the water is coming in the front door. >> We lived in a town called Great Ben, Kansas. And it was the flood of 1981. >> Mhm. >> From there, of course, your dad gets up immediately. We turn on the news. We turn on the radio. We're starting to put furniture up. I'm like, "Holy hell, Bob. That water's coming in our house." I look out, the street is like you could put a boat out there. And there was a boat. I said, "My god." I called my mom. I said, "Mom, we're going to try to make it up to where you live." She lived up on a street called Broadway, which was up higher in the city. I said, "We're going to try to come up there and make it." And she goes, "Okay." She goes, "We're high and dry up here." Uh somehow the banks of the ar it wasn't the ar yeah yeah it was Arkansas river but it had two tributary things that they didn't have plugged up and damned correctly and it just dumped and flooded all in Barton County. So we're having a flood. We are having a flood. Our car won't go anywhere. The the water now is up to the car doors. I said, "Oh my god, Bob." I look out and there is a national guard like an armory big truck with the back of it open and they are coming up to the door now in a boat saying you need to come. You need to evacuate. We'll get you in into that into that big truck. Let's go. I look at I grabbed formula for Haley. I grabbed some diapers. I told you to hold my hand. We got in the boat and I turn I go, "Bob, come on." He said, "I've got to put stuff up in the house. I'll catch you later." I said, "What? For real?" "Your dad would not go." I said, "Going down with the ship." >> I said, "Adios, amigos, I'll catch you later. I hope you can swim all the way up to my mom's, which was a good probably two miles." He goes, "I'll make it. Don't worry." So, I have Haley who can't swim. I have Chad who can't swim. I have formula diapers tucked in the little boat. And they the guy took us from there, put us up into the truck. The truck takes off. It stalled. And there's probably eight people in there with us. And you sit on these benches on the side. And I was in the very end cuz I was the last one that they picked up as that truck was going over the bumps. I'm hanging on to both of you like this. I was like, "Oh god. Oh god. Hang on. Don't let them bump out of here." If one of you would have went flying, what would I have done? You know, and then, okay, we turn down 10th Street. As we're going down that street, I'm looking out the back and I see uh cars with the water up at the top and they're swirling over the top of the car. >> All I thought is if this truck stops and the water starts to come in, I can't swim very well. I can swim, but to save two babies lives and me, I don't know. I don't Yeah, I just I got hot all over. I started crying. I'm grabbing you guys like this. God, get us up to my mom's house. The car the truck stopped three different times with the motor. We finally made it. >> It That was the most scariest moment in my life, thinking, "How could I save both of you?" I I didn't know how to do it. You did it. >> I was in a predicament. Yes. >> You saved us. >> I saved you. We made it up there and then your father came probably 45 minutes later with a big a church truck, grabbed him and brought him up. >> And he did. >> I'm sure he was screaming the whole time. I put the TV up on the shelf. I put this up on the shelf. Everything should be fine. We got to get back there tonight. We got to see what's going on. >> Yep. Oh my god. I was scared. It was very scary. >> Those are our moments of fear. Now, I do want to get to one more topic before we wrap up today's show. It is an important one. Are you ready? >> I'm ready. >> Gaza. A recent UNbacked report confirms Gaza has entered a quote worst case famine scenario with two out of three fam famine thresholds breached. Over 122 people, including 83 children, have died from starvation so far, and more than 28,000 cases of severe malnutrition, have been documented. A full blockade imposed by Israel in March of 2025 severely restricted UN and humanitarian access. The UN recommended 500 to 600 trucks be allowed in with humanitarian aid, but Israel only allows 69 aid trucks daily. Since May 27th, over 1,54 Palestinian civilians have been killed and more than 4,891 wounded while trying to access aid at UN affiliated distribution sites. On July 27th, 94 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces while seeking aid. Medical sources reported 209 deaths among aid seekers in recent days alone. A separate incident known as the Flower Massacre occurred on February 29th, 2024 when at least 118 people were killed and 760 injured by Israeli firearms while waiting for flower distribution site. Um, Mom, let me ask you, do you believe people in Gaza are starving? Yes. I see it on TV. Yes. >> Okay. Do you believe it's being done on purpose by Israel? >> I don't think by Israel. >> Who do you think by then? >> Uh by the bad guys that won't let him get through. >> Israel is the one imposing the blockade. They're telling these UN aid trucks, again, the UN says you need to have 5 to 600 trucks coming in there a day with aid. They're allowing 69 per day in, >> but then they're being intercepted also by the bad guys. It's It's very complicated both ways. >> The Israeli army is shooting people when they go to get aid. >> Yeah. It's a bad situation. I don't want anybody to starve. I don't want anybody to be dead, especially those babies. It's not right. Uh-huh. >> I don't know. >> So, are you prepared then? Maybe I don't even need to play this first clip. I had a first clip that was an NBC News piece all about the starvation, but if you believe it's happening, we may not even need to watch this clip. I am curious though, you're saying it's bad. You're saying it's happening. You're acknowledging it's happening. >> Do you acknowledge this is a a designed genocide by Netanyahu? >> No, I don't believe it's all Israel. I don't believe it's all him. I also believe it's the um who are they? The hoodies, the hummus, hummus, all of those >> what you're you watched these videos. You're saying you you've seen the I mean there are entire neighborhoods that are just rubble now. >> Yes. >> People having to sift through it. People waiting in these lines to get a bag of flour if they can and then getting shot by Israeli forces. >> Right. There's no like I think you have this perception that there's a war happening there. >> I do believe that >> there's no war. It's the Israeli army killing everyone there and now actively with policies in place to only allow a small fraction of what is the recommended amount of aid trucks through. I mean 69 a trucks out of the UN is saying you need 600. They're letting 10% a little over 10% in. And hasn't Trump now has got involved, right? Hasn't he said, "We're going to stop this pretty quick or what?" >> Trump always says he's going to stop wars. Guess how many wars Trump has stopped since he's been in office? 0.0. He has no power to do that. He's completely inept. >> He's working on it. >> All right. Well, speaking of Trump, Trump was asked about what do you think is happening in with Gaza, the starvation, and I want to play you his answer at this uh press conference he had. Are you ready? >> Yep. >> Here we go. Mr. President, when you were in the Middle East, you talked about the images coming out of Gaza and starving kids. Those images are still going. Many of them were much worse, thinner children, starving. What do you what do you see or feel when you look at those images today? >> Well, it's terrible. You know, when I see the children and when I see especially over the last couple of weeks and people are stealing the food, they're stealing the money. They're stealing the money for the food. Uh they're stealing weapons, they're stealing everything. It's a mess. That whole place is a mess. Uh the Gaza Strip, you know, was given many years ago so that they could have peace. That didn't work out too well. When Israel gave that up, whoever was the prime minister at the time, who I know who it was, but it was not exactly a very clever thing to do because that was given so that they finally have peace and it's actually made the situation worse. But we'll see what happens. Uh I think Iran is acting up. I think that we have a lot of people acting. We have Venezuela acting up in a different way. They're sending they continue to send people that we rebuff to our border. They can continue to send drugs into our country. Venezuela, they've been very nasty and we can't let that happen. But we and we have other countries too. Uh we do have and this is just getting a little off subject but we have now the safest border we've ever had and I think in many respects we probably have the most successful and I say it all the time every leader when I went to NATO the other day every leader said you have the hottest country in the world. We are we have the hottest country in the world now. We're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars. Uh we have the highest stock market we've ever had. We have the best numbers we've ever had. But we have hundreds of billions of dollars pouring into our our country and I think it's the hottest. And by the way, uh, one year ago, our country was dead. We had a dead country because of an incompetent president and incompetent Democrats. All they know how to do is talk and think about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd waste their time talking about America being great again, it would be so much nicer, so much easier, be very successful. But we were a dead country and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. Yeah. Any other questions? >> President Trump. >> All right. So there you have Donald Trump is asked about these starving children in Gaza and he turns it into a conversation about having the hottest country in the world. We have a hot country. And by the way, I know who the prime minister was that did the Gaza deal. I do know. I'm not going to say it, but I do know. Of course I know that was the most wild rambling meandering pivot to the hottest country in the world. He's being asked about starving children. >> He talked about that in the beginning and he said it's terrible. He said it's terrible. But then he did ramble some. I don't know why he was rambling. He did >> because he ain't all there. Mom is all there. You saw that. You watched that clip. He's talking about the hottest country in the world. He turns it back on Biden. like what the hell is he talking about? Do you think that's a good answer to an incredibly serious question about a genocide that is happening that is being designed by one of our allies? >> He did address that and it's bad and somebody's got to step in and quit. This is ridiculous. It's getting bad. >> Yeah. >> Do you think we have the hottest country? >> I have no idea. He rambled. He did ramble. It's okay. People ramble sometimes, Chad. It's okay. Indeed. It's okay unless it's Joe Biden. >> Well, he didn't he didn't ramble. He went He didn't even know where he was. >> Okay. So, Joe Biden somehow was worse than what Donald Trump is doing. Of course. >> Oh, yes. He couldn't get off his stage. My lord, >> I we have a few minutes left. I want to try and hit two quick topics if we can before we wrap up. One of these is the topic that I was talking about with the Epstein files. Trump had the FBI redact him from these files. The story is covered everywhere. Um, is this starting to add up to you at all? The clips we played of Guffy's family saying he's treating her like an object. Him now redacting himself or having the FBI redact him from the Epstein files. Uh, Epstein's own brother giving a lengthy interview where he said Trump and Epstein hung out all the time. They were great friends. Is it are these pieces starting to coalesce for you that Trump and Epstein were definitely more than just acquaintances and that he's heavily associated with him? >> I think time's going to tell. I think time will tell. >> Time is telling. It's telling us right now. Why would you as the president say to the FBI, "Redact me from all of these files?" >> I have no idea. >> Because he's all over them. >> Uhhuh. In regard. >> In regard to what? In regard to >> in regard to anything >> children I seriously doubt >> in regard to let me ask okay fine ask you this question let me ask you this question >> do you think anybody's name who appears in the Epstein files is there for a good reason >> probably not >> okay so and we now know his name is all over them we have reporting that Pam Bondi told him in May your name is all over the Epstein files we now have reporting coming out that Trump has directed the FBI to redact his name in the Epstein files. >> Yeah, but like why is his name in there? >> That's that's what I'm asking you. What could be a possible good reason that wouldn't implicate him in all the bad [ __ ] that Epstein was doing? >> Is there one? >> We need to see those files, don't we? >> Yes. And we're not going to. >> As long as Trump is president, we're not going to. Or you may see them, but there'll be most of them will be redacted. Certainly his name will be redacted, but that's already happened. So if they release these files, it's just going to have a black mark where his name is. >> I just think it involves way too many people. It also invol involves our government, people within our government that don't want to be >> Absolutely. But why would Trump care about that >> if Trump is clean and all he has to do is put these files out and be like, "Here's all the names that are in it. These people are pieces of [ __ ] They committed crimes." Whatever. Who cares about the other people in the government? Isn't that what he ran on? To drain the swamp. Full transparency. He He even said he was gonna expose the Epstein files when he got in. That was part of his campaign. >> I'm sure that it's going to come out. It will come out. I'm not worried. I'm not really worried about >> When do you think it will come out? When? He's been saying this since he was campaigning. >> Soon. It will come out soon. >> All right. I think the turning point for me >> if he pardons >> that madam >> that's a turning point for me. >> All right. And what what does that mean the turning point? You will denounce him. >> I might have to. >> Okay. I think that's coming. I'm very curious to see if you can uphold that. They might kill her before that, but we'll see. Um, did you see this week that he also forced the National Museum of American History to remove the mention of his name in the presidential impeachment exhibit? >> No, did not see that. >> All right. Well, he signed an executive order that forced this museum, a giant federally funded museum in Washington DC, to remove him from an exhibit they have about presidential impeachment. Do you think that's right? >> No, probably not. >> Okay. But get over the the ballroom that he's building. I think that's quite cool. I love to dance. The Patriots, by the way, the Patriots, by the way, are putting money out for that. It's not our government. So, get over it. Let's go dancing. >> I never brought that up. I never brought that up. What I am talking about is how he is trying to >> alter history. He's trying to alter the written history. The fact that he was impeached has been done the last four years by ripping down statues, renaming stuff. That's hilarious. >> Joe Biden never ripped down a statue that was Joe Biden being impeached. This is factual documented events that occurred. Donald Trump was impeached. He is trying to remove that from history. You don't think that's bad? >> Football teams. Yeah. >> Speaking of football, my final topic is the presidential fitness exam. This week, Trump signed an executive order restoring the Presidential Fitness Test for public school students and reviving the president's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition, a program aimed at combating childhood obesity and promoting physical wellness. Ex NFL linebacker Law Lawrence Taylor along with athletes Bryson Dashambo, Anakah Soren, and others were named to the newly reconstituted council. Lawrence Taylor is a registered sex offender. He pleaded guilty in 2011 to charges involving a 16-year-old runaway and received probation along with a requirement to register as a sex offender. Mom, do you think a registered sex offender should be involved with the presidential fitness program? >> No. >> Okay. >> Absolutely not. Why would he pick him? That's ridiculous. >> That was my next question. Why would Trump pick a registered sex offender to be on this presidential account, stand next to him as he's making the announcement? Why would Trump do that? >> I don't know. I have no idea. >> Let me help you with that. >> Why? Why? >> By normalizing people who have got sexual assault crimes, registered sex offenders, by having them out, surrounding himself with them, it makes him look less bad because he also has been found guilty of sexual offenses. He's been accused of many more, including all this stuff with Epstein. So, by having these guys in place around him, Hegathth is another one. Uh Brett Kavanaaugh, I'm sure we remember during his confirmation hearing all that stuff that went down. The Republican party is essentially um hoisting these guys up as like whatever. It's totally normal because if they can surround Trump with enough of them, Trump doesn't look as bad. That's why he's doing this. >> I don't I didn't I didn't see it as that. I saw then what's the answer guy that's a guy he shouldn't have put on that council for sure >> then why did he >> I have no idea I don't think about it understand it okay so the thing I've just said to you you're dismissing that wholesale that's a very plausible reason as to why you would do this >> maybe one reason maybe but I still don't understand that >> but okay I'm asking you to just think about it don't dismiss it as like well I don't understand that one >> you think about this though that is a good program to bring back that is a very good one to get our kids more into shape. As an ex physical education teacher, >> I've always thought they should have had that forever, but no, it was taken out when during um could it be Obama years that he axed it? >> I don't know. >> Yes, I think it was. I think it was. >> Let me see. >> And that's why we don't have enough physical fit people right now to get in our military. They can't even pass the physical fitness test to be in the military. >> Yeah, it was Obama in 201 continued it and replaced it with the presidential youth fitness program. The new program emphasized more holistic approach to student health and fitness, focusing on individual progress, healthy lifestyles rather than competitive performance. >> Yeah. Where everybody gets a blue ribbon. >> All right. Well, that wraps up our show for today. Thank you, Mom, for joining me. Thank you for doing this show with me for almost three years now. I think what will it be next week or the week after will be our literal three-year anniversary of this show. >> I can't believe it. Time flies when you're having fun. >> Time flies when it doesn't exist. Um, we of course would like to thank everybody who's been on this strange journey with us as we continue to move ahead with it as we are now in uncharted territories with American democracy crumbling around us. We are, I think, months away from living in a full-blown dictatorship. And then we will have to see how the citizenry reacts. Will there be protests? How will this end? Usually it doesn't end well for dictators. Mom, I hate to break it to you. >> I like to say this. I I love Trump, what he's doing for our country. I am a patriot. I love our United States. But there are people within it right now that I don't care too much for by their actions, what they're doing. There are days I just want to go out and see my shiny Heiny, see my horsey, see my rabbits in the backyard, take care of my kitty cat and Bob, and not see anybody else in this world because it's getting hard. Yeah. >> But that attitude of these people, you're talking about people on the left who who disagree with Trump, right? >> Right. >> So that is not going to go away. The more power Trump assumes, the stronger that reaction will be. You understand that, right? Right. It's not just the left people I don't want to see. I just don't want to see crime anymore. I don't want to see >> but don't want to see crime anymore. >> I mean, do you want me to play I have a couple more clips here of >> Well, do you want the guy to get the mayor of New York and then defund the police? You want to see crime? Get that communist in there. You'll see a lot of crime in New York. >> Let me let me play you a clip and you tell me if you think this is a crime or not. Okay. >> All right. Hurry. I gota go. It's our final clip. I know. Sorry. Here we go. >> I don't have any choice. >> I don't have any choice. >> Will you stand up and come with us? >> No. No. >> I understand, sir. You have to come. >> Please. [Music] [Music] [Music] How are you doing this? [Music] That was Ice kidnapping a child and the child's mother. Here is one more. >> This is Ice kidnapping a man who is literally in court to do his immigration hearing. Move [Music] back. >> Look at that. Does that look like a crime? >> That's a gang of masked men >> literally kidnapped courthouse. >> What do you think, Mom? Why do you get to play clips like that when I don't get to play the clips of the mothers of the children, their daughters that were raped with their heads crushed in with rocks and raped and thrown up again? Remember I said I wanted to see that? >> You didn't send me any of those clips. Send me a clip >> where she testified. >> Send me the clip. Send me the clip. I'll play whatever clip you want me to play. >> That will be >> But let me also say, >> yes, that also >> you're doing this weird false equivalence thing. Great. Cops should be catching criminals. They should be. That's their whole job. Cops should not be doing what you just saw in these two clips. >> The stories behind both of those. Were Were those legal American citizens? Do you know the stories? >> That guy, that last clip that I played to you, that guy, he was in court, immigration court, going through his immigration proceedings. So, yes, he was following the law. >> Okay. >> I don't know about the woman, but you saw the kid crying. They're traumatizing this child. >> Yes. yanking this kid out of their home and and you're talking about, you know, I want the streets to be safer. Do you think it's safer for those people? >> What do you mean? >> Do you think America is a safer place for these people that ICE is kidnapping on a daily basis? >> Again, we don't know the stories behind those people. We don't know where they came from. >> I'm asking you a very simple question. Do you believe that child who is sobbing, crying, having their life destroyed, do you think it is safer in America for that child now than it was before Trump? >> I think he is more sad because just what happened to to in front of him and the parents were taken away or the child was whoever was. Mhm. Do you think it's safer for immigrants who are applying for immigration, who are doing everything legally correctly like you always want them to, and they are getting kidnapped in court? >> Probably not. >> Okay. So, when you say safer, who are you talking about? >> How many years have they had to do this the correct way? >> What do you mean? >> How many years have they had to make themselves legal? That guy was there for a scheduled court date. >> Okay. >> Then ICE kidnaps him. >> Yeah, that's not right. >> Well, they're doing that constantly because we talked about this last week. They have this quota of 3,000 people they have to deport per day. There aren't 3,000 criminals that they can deport per day. There just aren't that many. Sorry. So, they're getting little kids on their porches. there. I mean, out here in LA, ICE tried to go into two elementary schools. >> And you've seen this firsthand. >> Yes. Not firsthand. I'm not standing there. It's all over the internet. All of this is very widely reported on. You just have to not watch Newsmax. That's They're never going to tell you this on Newsmax. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you very much for everyone who joined us. Thank you, mom, for joining me. Thank you again for joining me for three years of this podcast almost. I love you for doing that. I love you for at least being here to have this conversation and uh for taking care of dad and his hours of need. >> You have no idea. Look how tired I am. You have no idea. >> I know. No idea. >> Okay. I love you too, Chad. I love you, Haley. She's off on vacay again. She's the only one in our family that goes on vacay like every other week. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Vacay. Well, hopefully everybody will be back next week and we hope you will join us too. >> Okay, bye.