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I already know this is going to be bad probably, but go ahead. [Laughter] >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Culture. With me today is just my mom. We're going to be trying something a little different here. I've I've kind of talked about on our show uh before trying to show you some videos to broaden your scope of how you are perceiving the news. So today, what we're going to do is I'm going to play for you a 12minute clip from the Rachel Matto show on MSNBC talking about some recent developments with Trump. Okay, here's the rules for this. You can tell me to pause at any time and we can discuss what you've just watched. There will be some points in this video where I pause because I will want to ask you questions about it, but you can do the same. And then the reverse of this will also happen. You can show me a video at some point uh whenever you want to as well. Okay, are you ready? >> Oh, I can imagine. Hit it. Go. >> Wait, let me ask you this. Have you ever watched Rachel Meadow? >> Yes. >> Okay. You know who she is? >> Yeah. I don't like her. Go ahead. >> Here we go. >> I'm doing this for you. >> For me? Thank you. Well, I'm doing it for you. You can see that? >> Yes. >> Let me know if you can hear it. No one convicted in conjunction with a horrific crime like child sex abuse. No criminal should be given a reward for doing interviews about their crimes, >> right? It's instinctively repulsive to us as Americans. >> But of course, that is what Donald Trump's justice department appears to have just done >> in the case of Gain Maxwell, who was convicted of crimes related to mass child sex abuse in the Jeffrey Epstein case. Trump's Justice Department set Trump's former personal defense lawyer, who now has the number two job in the US justice department. He sent that man to go meet with Gain Maxwell in prison, do an interview, and then she immediately got a big, very important material benefit. She got bumped down to a minimum security prison where a sex offender like her is not allowed to be unless they get some special dispensation from on high, which apparently she got just after doing this interview with the president's former personal defense lawyer. >> Okay. So, you're following that, right? Yes, Trump. But I don't think Okay, you can stop. I don't think she got bumped down to that other prison just because of that interview. >> Why do you think that happened then? >> Because maybe she was going to turn more states evidence against other people and they had to get her out of there before someone would hang her by a rope or she'd commit suicide or something like that. >> Okay. So, you agree or you at least accept that she was moved to a nicer prison? >> Yes. >> Hello. >> Okay. Yes. You agree with that? >> In Texas? Yes. >> But you don't think that had anything to do with Trump sending his personal attorney there to interview her? That was just coincidental that it happened right after that. >> I have no I don't know. I don't know. >> Okay. >> What I'm saying is she had Yeah. She was moved for a reason. I don't know the reason. Neither do you. It could have been someone that the that someone was going to um try to kill her, someone was going to do bad things to her, or that they were giving her special treatment. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> So, you think that's possible they were giving her special treatment? >> I do. I do. Yes. Maybe. >> Let's keep going. >> Okay. >> Special treatment and a reward for an interview about her crimes. not from some some craven tabloid or some, you know, soulless exploitative publisher like New York State legislators were worried about in the 1970s. No, this is from the president's administration. This is from the federal government. And in that interview, it's not like the president's lawyer was pressing her real hard on what she was telling him. At one point, Gain Maxwell volunteered in this interview that there were multiple members of President Trump's cabinet who had been involved with child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein. Now, in the interview, the president's lawyer, we can hear it's on the tape. President's lawyer hears her say that about multiple members of President Trump's cabinet, and he responds to her saying that by not asking anything about it. You can listen to it. She she volunteers members of Trump's cabinet, people who the president's lawyer would value as colleagues. She says, she says they were among the people who she knows socialized with Jeff Jeffrey Epstein. She says that bluntly and then listen to how Donald Trump's lawyer responds to that. Listen to the long pause he greets that information with and then he just leaves it sitting right where it is and moves on to a different topic. >> Did I like think these guys were coming for that? I really don't. If you met Epstein, there is no way that this cast of characters of which it's extraordinary and some of your cabinet who you value as your co-workers and you know would be with him if he was a creep or because they wanted sexual favors. A man wants sexual favors. He will find that they didn't have to come to Epstein for that. Now, did some Okay, I don't know. I wasn't there. I didn't see it. >> Um, so when's the last time you think you were with Mr. Epstein when he got got a massage? >> Okay, I'm going to pause it there. Why do you think this attorney did not ask her who are the members of his cabinet that were with Epstein? >> Exactly. Yeah. He should have asked. I don't understand that. Yeah. >> Do you think it's possible that Trump sent him there to essentially have her exonerate Trump to say Trump did nothing wrong and that was his only goal? So when she's talking about this, saying there are members of the cabinet that are involved in the Epstein thing, he doesn't ask that question because Trump has told him explicitly not to. Don't dig too deep. Just get her to exonerate me and get the [ __ ] out of there. But before he even went to talk to her, she was recorded by saying that Trump that she never saw Trump in a bad way ever. >> And then she got moved to a minimum security prison. >> But she said that before that attorney ever showed up. That was on >> Yes, I understand. But a person in her situation, you have to imagine that's what she would want to say to try and get out of her situation. Maybe keep going. We'll see what the I don't like her. I don't like her at all. >> So, this woman who's in prison, a 20-year sentence because of her crimes that she committed with Jeffrey Epstein, she says, you know, hey, members of Donald Trump's cabinet were involved with this thing that I was part of. You're involved with Epstein. She said plural, right? Some are in your cabinet. Some are in your cabinet who you value as your co-workers. Multiple members of the president's cabinet were involved with Jeffrey Epstein. And the response to her volunteering this in this interview is not uh who which members of the cabinet say what now. The response is um long pause. Let's move on. So the president's name, it's been reported appears multiple times in the Justice Department's documents about the Jeffrey Epstein child sex abuse case. The FBI reportedly assigned agents to redact Donald Trump's name from the files in the Jeffrey Epstein case. The Justice Department is refusing to release all of its files and documents from the Jeffrey Epstein case. They are coddling and rewarding and doing favors for the one living person currently in prison for crimes related to Epstein's case, even as she is volunteering to them. That there are more. >> Mom, you're shaking your head. >> If this Chad, if all of this was true, >> why isn't this already out in the open? The Democrats would have found names, places, people. They would have already spilled this somewhere >> because the Democrats are in it too, >> right? So, >> Bill Clinton is in those files, >> right? And cabinet members, who are we talking about? Who do you think? >> I have no idea. I have no idea. >> Right. >> But if multiple cabinet members are in it, don't you also think that uh Trump is in it? Like the whole Epstein thing there? There's a lot of And it may be in this video. I'm not sure if it's in this video or not. We we still have eight minutes of this video left. But um there's a lot of information coming out that Gain Maxwell was potentially linked with the KGB and her and Epstein's whole deal. Like yes, they were abusing children, but they were also grifting politicians and powerful people, business people to come to that island, do horrible [ __ ] get it on video, and then sell that video. Not hold it against it. sell that video literally to Putin. So he now has a collection of these videos to control people globally. >> Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, but to use it against him. I I totally blackmail. >> I totally do probably agree with that. >> Okay. >> And I also agree maybe not even Who did you say? The K KBG. Yeah. >> Or who did you say? >> The KGB. >> Yeah. >> Russian intelligence. Yeah. >> Yes. I'm pretty sure that they were being paid money by our government to do this. I felt that from the very start. >> Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was being paid money to sexually assault children? By our government? >> No, but that he was paid money to get tapes against people to use against people. >> Okay. And did you see where Mike Johnson said that he thought Trump was an FBI informant >> and that's why he was friends with Epstein? You didn't see that clip? >> No. >> Okay. Maybe we'll talk about that on Sunday. Let's keep going with this though. >> Okay. >> How are you receiving this information right now? By the way, >> I think it's all sick. I think it's terrible. It's all sick. >> But you believe it's true. What you're saying? >> Yes, I do. Yes. Something. Yeah. That's great. That's >> I don't I don't think that Trump was on that island doing this to kids. I don't believe it. >> Okay. Well, let's continue down this path. or high-ranking Trump officials who were involved with Epstein. In that context, today the New York Times reported on thousands of documents about Epstein's finances that were submitted to the US government by his longtime banker JP Morgan Chase. Records of more than 4,000 Epstein financial transactions totaling more than 1.1 billion, which JP Morgan reported to the federal government as possible evidence of his child's sex trafficking. Reported to the federal government. So therefore, in the hands of the federal government, it has been nearly a week since Democratic Senator Ron Weiden formally demanded last week that Trump's Treasury Department release its thousands and thousands of files on Epstein's financial records. On top of that, NBC News reports as of this weekend that Trump's Justice Department is now specifically opposing the news organization's request to unseal the names of two people who Jeffrey Epstein paid in 2018. He paid one of them $100,000 and another a quarter million dollars. Federal prosecutors describe these people as potential co-conspirators of Epstein who were paid off by him. Federal prosecutors described those payments as potential witness tampering. NBC News reports that Trump's Justice Department has formally asked a federal judge to keep those names secret. >> Now, why do you think Trump would do that? >> Ask people close to him probably. >> Or maybe him. >> Nah. Nah. Hang on. Okay, fine. You don't believe it's him, but you are willing to acknowledge it's his friends. >> So, if he's friends with Epstein and he's now friends with people that Epstein was paying off, you believe that? >> But Trump's just a good guy who happens to have all these friends that are sexually assaulting children. >> I do not think he sex sexually assaulted children. I do not. >> Okay, we'll keep going. as NBC seeks to have them unredacted. >> And now today, we get this, which President Trump said did not exist. Donald Trump in fact sued the Wall Street Journal when they reported this summer that Trump had signed a birthday book for Jeffrey Epstein with some sort of a crude doodle of a naked woman and an enigmatic note from Trump to Epstein that seemed to suggest some kind of shared secret between them. Trump denied he had done any such thing and brought a big splashy lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal for publishing the claim that he had done such a thing, that such a letter with, >> you remember this, right? We talked about this on the show. >> Yes. >> You said you didn't think it existed. Here it is. >> Okay. But he did not do that and he has a lawsuit against them for this. >> That's his signature at the bottom of it. >> He said he did not do this. >> Right. But he's lying. That's his signature right there. >> He said he did not do this. >> And I'm saying he did. >> Okay. >> And that's his signature. Like what are you seeing? That signature. Anybody could do that signature, Chad. Okay. >> To say he did it. >> Let's keep going. >> Okay. >> Exist. Well, now today in response to a congressional subpoena. What do you know? There it is. The text apparently written by Donald Trump to child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein. This is what it says. Voiceover. There must be more to life than having everything. Donald. Yes, there is. But I won't tell you what it is. Jeffrey, nor will I since I also know what it is. Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Jeffrey, yes, we do, come to think of it, Donald, enigmas never age. Have you noticed that, Jeffrey? As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you, Donald. A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret. And then it is signed. See the typewritten text there? Donald J. Trump. So, you believe this image, all of that text that we just read, the wonderful secrets, the drawing of this naked woman's body with no arms, you believe someone else did all of that and fake signed his name? >> Yes, I do. Now, >> why would anyone hang on? Why would anyone do that? >> Just decades ago to get back at Trump. This is decades ago. He was not running for office. They make things up. Chad, >> you're seeing this on your news channels. What I'm seeing on my news channels is Trump standing there saying, "This is malarkey. I didn't do it." And on Newsmax, they're saying, "This is not true." And they're trying to smear him again. >> But this happened decades ago. How is it now? Like you're you're saying they're trying to use this to smear him. Why would anybody 20 whatever years ago have faked this to try and smear him now? He wasn't running for office. He wasn't even like he was kind of famous or whatever as a celebrity, but there was no need to create something to smear him in a private book that only Jeffrey Epstein had. How is it a smear if it's not public? That was a private document given to Jeffrey Epste for his birthday. I just have seen Trump on three different occasions on TV and different channels saying I did not do that. That's not my signature of course and that it's not true. >> Well, right now Rachel Matto is going to show you that it is his signature. So, check this out. >> With a handwritten signature Donald beneath it. >> So, it is all written like on the body of a naked womanish. Uh the president apparently describing a shared secret between him and Jeffrey Epste. bizarre reference to age and quote certain things that the two men have in common. Yeah. Okay. The White House today decided to claim that this is not really from Donald Trump, that this is clearly, in their words, um not his signature on this document. Pretty immediately, other examples were obtained of President Trump signing his first name in various contexts right around that time. and the signature from those other uncontested signatures of his, I don't know, looks pretty exactly the same. I I mean, just a layman's understanding of these things. But here, look, this is the birthday book for Epstein that has has Trump purportedly signing it, Donald, in 2003. Here, the New York Times publishes an example of a book Trump signed to Jeffrey Epstein, in 1997. Donald. Here's the Wall Street Journal publishing an example of a letter Trump signed Donald in the year 2000. Here's the Wall Street Journal publishing an example of a letter Trump signed Donald in 2006. Now, I'm no forensic handwriting expert. But if the White House is hinging its whole defense against how ferociously creepy and suspicious this all is on how much these signatures don't all look alike, how much these signatures don't look like each other, if that's their defense, that's a terrible defense. >> Look at those signatures. Do you think they're the same? >> Yes, they are. and anybody could reproduce his signature. >> Why would they fake that again? This thing that they gave to Jeffrey Epste, >> try to take him down. >> But how would that take him down if when that book was given to Epstein, >> it was a single copy, a birthday gift for Epstein, >> no one knew about it, it's not in public, how does that take anyone down? What do you mean? I don't understand what you're asking. >> That book that that has the drawing of the woman's body and says all the [ __ ] about the secrets >> signed by Donald Trump. >> They can make anything up. They can make anything. Anybody can sign a signature. Anybody can make anything up. >> Listen to me. You're saying somebody would have made it up to take Trump down, >> right? >> That book is one copy given to Jeffrey Epstein. No one is aware of it. How is that a strategy to take someone down? It's not >> Why do you Why did that buck surface right now? Where did it come from? >> It came from investigative journalism. This specifically came from a subpoena because now that book's important. Now that Epstein is dead, now that Gileain Maxwell is in prison, people are saying, "What is the relationship between Trump and Epste?" Well, here we have a clue. Trump wrote this weird thing about how they have secrets together and put a naked woman's body on it. He denies that it exists and now it clearly exists. Here it is right in front of our faces. And so the next line of defense for the Republicans and you is, well, Trump didn't write that. It was forged. Why would anyone forge it? >> I am going on what he told me and what I see on TV when he talks to me. That's what I'm going basing my decision on. >> All right, let's let's keep going here. We have three more minutes of this video. Here we go. >> I don't like her. >> I don't really like her either. But whether you like her or not, I'm just telling you to get at look at the information. Take take the fact out of it that she's the one telling you. Look at the information. >> I'm trying. I'm trying. She's so ugly. Go ahead. >> God. Naked woman references to never aging document from Epstein's birthday book. Epstein's estate also today handed over to Congress this photo in which Epstein, you see on the right there, is holding a big novelty check for $22,500. It is a check that is made to look like it is from Trump to Epstein. So, it's Trump reportedly paying Jeffrey Epstein more than $22,000. The caption alongside the photo, which the Wall Street Journal says was written by a longtime Mara Lago member, indicates that the check is because Epstein um sold to Donald Trump a quote girl who is described as quote fully depreciated. >> Mom, you're shaking your head. You don't think this is >> They make this stuff up. That is not real. I don't believe it. >> You don't believe what is real? The image or the note? What? What just spewed out of her mouth? Any of it. >> Okay. But you can see the picture, right? >> Yes. >> So, do you think that picture is fake AI? What do you think? >> I have no idea. >> Okay. You said it wasn't real. So, you have to have some next logical step to explain away the fact that you are looking at an image of Epstein holding a check for $22,000 signed by Donald Trump. Then this note that says what it was for. That's a picture of a handwritten note saying that is for a fully depreciated girl. >> And where did all of this come from? >> Let's listen. Well, I mean, it says right there, the source is House Oversight Committee. So, these documents, I assume, came from Golane Maxwell after they have subpoenaed all of this stuff, including the birthday book. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> This, of course, comes after President Trump said just earlier this summer that the reason he had a falling out with his longtime friend Jeffrey Epste after 15 years of friendship, was because Epstein, in Trump's words, stole a young woman from him. one of Epstein's sex trafficking victims who Trump ep who Trump Trump says Epstein stole from Trump's spa at Mara Lago. Real normal stuff here, you guys. Real normal. I mean, what in presidential history even approximates a scandal this disgusting? What in the history of the United States of America for anybody in any position of public trust approximate? >> That's that's all the information that we have there. The rest of it is her just kind of pontificating. But um so you saw those images. You saw that Trump or at least in that picture which you're claiming I guess is not real. Trump gave a check to Jeffrey Epstein for $22,000 for a in quotes fully depreciated girl. >> I would like to hear him speak about that and he's going to say that's not real probably. >> Of course. But what is he going to say? What what is he what his alternative is? What? To be like, "You got me. I was involved in the Epstein sex ring. I did pay $22,000 for a girl." Like, obviously, he's not going to say that. He's going to lie. >> But what I'm trying to do with these videos is show you this is clear evidence. And like you're saying, you don't see this [ __ ] on Newsmax. >> No, I don't. >> And I'm not saying I like Rachel Matt out either. I think she's a little condescending in the way she delivers the news. But her reporting, the the information is factual. You have now seen that. uh Jeffrey Epstein birthday book. You're explaining it away by saying someone forged it for the purposes of taking Trump down >> in a private B. It would be like if I forged some signature on a birthday card that I gave to you >> to try and take you down. >> Like what that makes can be made by anyone. I do believe that you believe that too. >> Of course AI can be made by anyone. Why would anyone do that >> in a Jeffrey Epstein birthday book? >> Yeah, this is starting to be very concerning to me if that's what you wanted to hear. It is. So, >> well, it should be that. >> Yes, it is. >> What I'm trying to do with it is just to make you see some stuff that I don't think you're seeing on Newsmax. >> I don't think they're talking about this stuff in this way. >> And the the um excuses that Trump is giving are [ __ ] insane. I didn't I don't draw pictures. Remember when he said that, >> right? That was already here's a picture that you drew. No, I didn't do that. It's not my signature. Well, here's 10 other signatures from around that time on personal documents that you did sign that you're not contesting that look exactly the same. >> So, how do we get to the bottom of this, Mr. Chad? How do we get to the bottom of it? >> Exactly. By what's happening now. Subpoenas, investigations, House Oversight Committee. Those are really the only methods we have at our disposal. We know there are high fish high off high officials that are involved in all this. It's a cover up. Those people don't want to be their names don't want to be thrown out. >> But >> Trump is one of them. >> I do not believe it. I don't believe he's in there with them. I really don't. >> All that reporting about how he had the FBI redact his name from the Epstein files. You think that's >> I don't want to believe this. I don't want to believe it. when when the documents I don't believe it either >> when the when the documents came out where what do you call it uh where they had to write the names of people that went on the airplane >> Mhm. >> down to the island. Trump was never on those airplanes. He rode some of its airplanes from Florida up to New York and back with family members. >> Yes. None of that matters. You saw all these videos of him with Epstein. You saw him in this thing giving him a birthday book. We have a beautiful secret together. What is the secret? What could he be talking about there? There's one thing. There's one thing. >> It's that they were having sex with kids. He paid him $22,000 for a girl. >> If that is the truth, he needs to go to jail and he's a bad person. >> Okay. So, you're at least to that point. Now, you just need some convincing that it is the truth. >> We need it proven 100%. >> Okay. And to you right now, these things are not proof. >> Not quite yet. >> Because you believe they're fake documents. >> I think some of it is fake. I really do. I think they're trying to take him down still. >> You're saying they're trying to take him down. So when you're saying that with respect to the Jeffrey Epstein birthday book drawing >> that was made decades ago. >> Chad, if all of this stuff really was true, don't you think those Democrats would have found this a long time ago, thrown it in the open to where Donald Trump would have never run for to be a president? Never. >> It would have been overwhelming. They would have thrown it and said, "Look, look what he did. They haven't done it. They tried to do it. But Epstein also held this weird position because he had so much blackmail on so many people in the government that it's like if you >> say Trump was in this, look out. That may come right back on you. I I do think like Trump is definitely a part of this in my mind, but so are a bunch of highranking Democrats. I think the entire US government is extremely corrupt and has been doing terrible [ __ ] for a very long time. And I think there's a lot of people who don't want these names to come out, but Trump is one of them. >> We will see. Why hasn't anything happened to the Clintons? Bill Clinton, >> I'm telling you, he's on >> I do believe that. I I don't know why, but I do believe that of him. I guess because of his [ __ ] in the White House and all that. I do believe that. >> But with all of the mounting evidence of Trump, there are like credible sexual assault allegations against him. He lost that Eene Carol lawsuit I think this week that her decision just got upheld by >> and did you see how she was bragging how every day that she would have a stylist come in and make her look um like she did when she was younger and on the day and all that. Oh yeah, she was bragging all about it. >> What does that have to do with if he sexually assaulted her or not? >> I don't think he did. >> Okay. Well, a jury does and she was awarded money. He himself has talked about having fun when he walked into dressing rooms to see the naked teen girls of the MissUSA pageant that he owned. >> He himself has talked about how he wanted to date his daughter. >> Okay, I know where you stand. I know where I stand. I need more. >> These are facts. >> I need more facts that are real. >> Okay, these are all real facts. But thank you for watching this video. If if you're down with it, I wouldn't mind trying to do these little things every once in a while. If you have videos you want to show me from Newsmax or something, send them to me and we can do that, too. >> Yes, because I could probably show you exactly the opposite of what you just showed me. >> Mhm. >> I probably could. >> All right. Well, we'll see. But, uh, that wraps up this little short video we wanted to do. Like I said, we're going to try and do some more of these. Thank you, Mom, for joining me for this. I love you, and I'm sorry about Kitty this week. I know it's been a a rough week for you guys. Oh, Jesus Christ. I didn't mean to make you cry. I'm sorry. For what it's worth, I believe she is still with us and will be forever. >> Okay. >> I love you. >> Love you. Bye. >> Bye.