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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Kultgen. With me today is the entire family, my sister Haley Pope, fellow lefty, fellow anti-Trumper, and my mom and dad, my mom in her best American flag hat. They are, of course, deep in the MAGA pit. They buy everything he sells. They believe everything he says is true, even when he's caught in lies and contradictions. Hello. Anyone? Hi. Can you hear me? Is this thing on? Now, that is true, but none of that is true, but hello. None of what is true? It's all true. >> the lies and and whatever you said. >> constantly caught in lies and contradictions, literally constantly. He ran on a platform of not starting any wars or fights with foreign countries. That was part of his platform. Okay. He has to >> Ha! Well, we'll get into that. Do you have any ditties, Mom? >> Jesus Christ. Mom? >> My ditty is just a real quick little thing and I'll talk more about it Wednesday. One of my friends that lives in um outside of Amarillo, one of her friends was driving down a county road and she had her window down and her heard a weird noise. She thought, "That's weird." Got out of the car. Someone had dumped three puppies like 5 ft apart and rolled them off into the grass and they were all in little balls and crying. Eyes were not even open, yipping and yipping and yipping. So, she took them home, of course. So, whoever that piece of [ __ ] is, I hope they're rotting in hell. From there, she took them home and her friend said, "We better go look for more." From there, they have now They're now up to nine puppies that someone dumped and just threw them out on the roadside by the side. So, um I'm going to start a little uh fund for her, but I'll talk it more about that on Wednesday. And they're in Texas. I don't know why my connection right now is with the animals all over the place, but I'm doing my job. I'm going to do it. All right. And now Is that it? That's all the ditties? Yes, because, you know, fostering puppies takes a lot of money. We only had that one little our little man, little stinky man, for like 2 days. I spent a lot of money in 2 days. She has nine of them to take care of. So, we'll talk about that more on Wednesday. Okay. Moving on to the portion of our program where we answer a question from somebody out there who watches our show, listens to our show. If you want to submit a question, all you have to do is record it in a 1-minute or shorter video format. I get a lot of them that are like 5 minutes long. I don't even open the file. You have to keep it to a minute or less or we cannot play it here. Once again, record it in a 1-minute or shorter video format. Send it to the [email protected]. Here is this week's question. Hi Chad, Haley, Mary Lou, and Bob. I'm here with my dogs. I thought you guys might appreciate that. And I was just curious, what is your family's um immigration story? Because as Americans, we all have one. So, I'm curious, Mary Lou and Bob, if you could share individually, how did your families come to America? What is that story? I loved how she was with her puppy swimming. That's pretty cool. What is our family's history with immigration? Okay. I'll start right now. My grandmother uh and my grandmother was 3 years old. Her parents came over from Russia {slash} the river area of Russian Poland on a ship. There were nine children. By the By the time they got into the United States at Ellis Island and came through at Ellis Island, there was one child that died on the trip from smallpox, I think. Uh so, my grandmother's family then went to Are you sure it was smallpox? I thought it was scarlet fever. Maybe smallpox or scarlet fever. I'll have to look it up. I have it written down. That was Grandma Gert's mom and dad. Uh they then settled in Beazine, Kansas. Well, after registering the correct way and signing all the documents, and I do have that to show the names, the numbers, where they were going, Beazine, Kansas. They settled there as farmers and um and raised crops and cattle and things in Beazine, Kansas. So, that's how that side settled. And then my dad's side, probably about the same. I don't have all the documentation on his side, but they settled in Beaver, Kansas. And where did they come from? And my dad was a Polish descent, more all Polish. And why did they come to America? To find a better life. To have jobs. To have it documented where they were going, what they were doing. That's why they came. They're like, "We need to go to America." >> We got to get documented. where we're going, what we're doing. To be farmers and and be an American, to be a citizen. >> better life. And they were all looking for a better life. And they were all American citizens, too. What? No, they weren't. They came here and had to become American citizens. Yes, and were productive and had jobs. Okay. Where did yours come from? Luxembourg. That's right. He's German. And what's the story? The story is that my grandpa and grandma on my dad's side came here from Luxembourg. They went through the same thing Mary's grandmother did, and they became farmers in Beaver, Kansas. So, the same thing. What is Is there a cat going wild somewhere? It's uh we got a new kitten. His name is Sparrow. And I am his He's He's He's a Velcro cat. Like he wants to be with you. He's purring all the time. He wants you to pet him, hold him, love me, love me. And he's outside the door cuz he can hear me in here like cuz he wants to be petted to me. Yeah, you can hold him if you want. But if I open the [ __ ] door, like I won't be able to get him out and he'll just be in here like [ __ ] around. All right. Well, there you have it. Once again, uh that's that's our family's immigration story. If you have any questions, please, again, record them in a I beg you, 1-minute or shorter video format. Send it to the [email protected]. Now, let's begin One last thing, I do know a little bit about my grandmother's language, what she used to teach me as a little child that then I taught you guys as little kids, but you probably don't even remember it. Wait, I'm going to get him and I'll show him to you and then I'm going to call I'm going to call uh Conrad come get him. I'm going to get the cat real quick. I remember some of that. It was a thing about like the parts of the face. Yeah, parts of the >> begel you. All that. Begel begel sainya sainya sop sop sop sop sainya. Um and then thros thros rili um bar hadum filia um filia kudat lava at the bar um siliaba. That was a little German dialect mixed in there and Russian. Oh my gosh. Pretty cute. Yeah, he's cute. >> just listening to this, my sister has this cat, Sparrow, um is on screen now. You can go on YouTube and see her holding. Is this a man or a woman? I think it's a boy. All right. Oh my gosh. Okay, you better get on her butt about this. If Dad and I were doing this, you would be so mad at us. Well, she's holding up the show. I agree. This is absurd. Okay. She's back. >> Okay. You're back. Here we go. Our first topic is oil wars. Early Saturday morning, Trump broke his own campaign promise to not start any new foreign conflicts by authorizing a large military attack against multiple targets in the capital of Venezuela, Caracas. The goal of the strikes was kidnapping the president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, and his wife, Celia Flores, who are now in US custody in New York. Maduro is expected to face US criminal proceedings tied to narco-terrorism and drug trafficking-related charges. Trump publicly said the US will run Venezuela temporarily as US oil companies will now claim oil production rights in the country. The operation was not authorized by Congress and is reported to be an illegal military action under the UN Charter. Senior Venezuelan officials denounced it as kidnapping. China calls it a violation of international law. Mexico and Brazil have both issued sharp criticism. European nations are calling for restraint and the UN Security Council is expected to convene soon for an emergency discussion about it. Uh Haley, Maduro has long been a key figure in narco-terrorism, drug smuggling. He's extremely corrupt. Is this a good thing? I mean, it's not a good thing because he literally [ __ ] kidnapped the leader of another country and bombed their country for oil. So, no. >> Supposedly for oil. Well, okay. Um He's a terrible person. He shouldn't be in leadership, just like Putin. I mean, like you know, there so many countries where uh at least a handful of them that are led by dictatorships. So, not having that man in charge is probably for the best, but this isn't how you go about doing it. This is all illegal. He did all of this without approval. Like literally overnight just [ __ ] bombed another country and stole their leader. That's [ __ ] insane. But yeah, he's a terrible person. So, I mean they need new president, but this isn't how you do it. Dad, uh what are your thoughts on Trump kidnapping the leader of another country? He didn't kidnap him. He didn't kidnap But wait. If this If this is okay with you guys, then are you okay with somebody doing this to Donald Trump? Because he's a [ __ ] dictator. >> if they're man enough to do it, bring it on, [ __ ] Nobody would be able to. You know what the difference between you and me? >> you a [ __ ] He was saying, "Come on, bitches." I'm going to tell you right now that that oil is going to make Venezuela rich, and the only other countries who are going to give a [ __ ] about it are the other communist countries in this in this world who need that oil to pay for the drugs that they ship to the United States to kill Americans. And what Donald Trump did What Donald Trump did last night was put an end to all that [ __ ] The first thing I thought about when it happened, honestly, was like all these people signing up, you know, to to be in the military, to like fight for our country, protect America, all this [ __ ] And we have a president willing to sacrifice these people for [ __ ] oil. Is that right? How many people died? We don't know yet. There were no American citizens >> There was no American citizen shot. >> Okay. >> Zero. Maybe. Maybe, but how long do you think this is going to last? How long do you think that we're going to control Venezuela? All the other communists are going to be afraid to wet their pants. They're not going to do [ __ ] >> Okay, is it my turn yet? No. No. I want to ask this Sorry, go ahead, Mom. Yeah, go ahead. >> No, go ahead. Ask questions cuz I have about five pages I would like to read, but go on. Oh, Jesus. My question is what happened to America first? Do you think that this has any How does this make uh gas prices better for us? How does this make food prices better for us? How does this solve healthcare? How does this do >> go down. Oil's going to become dirt cheap. Why? Because there's going to be Ma- Maduro's only producing 18% of the capacity that they have. You get that up to 100% capacity, bring in the US oil companies, the world will be flooded with oil. Everything's going to drop like a rock. Those oil rigs in that country were only operating at 18%. So, they were only drawing out of the ground 18%. So, you think that warrants another country going in to going into a country Yes. Yes. >> a war Let me explain to you what a war is. >> that's not ours? We saved those [ __ ] people from being used and abused. >> This is not a war. There were charges against him and his wife and I think 14 other people back in 2020 Okay. >> kinds of violations. Narcotics trafficking. Cocaine transport. >> This is simply It's simply an arrest. >> Possession of guns and weapons. No. But why is that okay? >> How are Why is >> an arrest. They used United States military to go in and kidnap this guy. We No. We used United States military to arrest these guys. Okay, well, Putin also has charges against him internationally for war crimes. Doesn't Netanyahu at this point Should Should we do it to them as well? Yes. They could be next. Should we kidnap Netanyahu? I'd say you try. >> to say something. I want to say one thing. >> The difference is Venezuela couldn't defend your mother. Okay. So, a US president Now, listen to this. This is pretty heavy-duty stuff. Okay. >> A US president using Article 2 powers used the military to go into a foreign country and arrest the dictator of that country who was supporting and continuing to support the drug flow from that country into the US without congressional approval. Is that correct? And it was harming US citizens. So, when they went in and got him, brought him to the US to to indict him for a trial. Is this correct what I just told you? Is what correct? This What I just stated. What are you stating? You know what who that is? >> Or are you not listening? >> That happened January the 3rd, 1990 when George Bush did the exact same thing and pulled out Manuel um Noriega. But see what I just stated, you guys were thinking that was Trump going into Venezuela. When Bush did the exact same thing Republican president Republican president >> boohooing about it. >> Republican presidents are notorious for creating wars over resources. It has nothing to do with a war on drugs. This is about resources. >> to do with the war on drugs. >> crybaby. Then why is he pardoning people from prison who are [ __ ] drug kingpins? That other pardon, I do not know what that was about. I know we talked about it, but it said that he was What was the word? I don't know. I need to research that one and I know you Donald Trump money, and so he let him out. He doesn't give a [ __ ] about drugs in America. He's letting them out of prison. Can I ask you this? >> Have you seen videos of the people in Venezuela? They are dancing in the street. Those videos are from >> is now Those videos Those videos have already been debunked. They are not correct. Oh my god. They have been. >> I'm sorry. Just put yourself >> from soccer celebrations. Put yourself in their shoes. Another [ __ ] president, a dictator from another country, bombs the United States and says, "I [ __ ] own your country now." You think that we're going to be happy about that? You're out of your [ __ ] mind. are are dancing in the street, Haley. They're so happy. >> videos that you're seeing are not real. They are from years ago. I wish I had a friend in Venezuela I'd call him right now. I wish I had a friend in Venezuela I'd call him right now. There is one video that's going around right now of people dancing and waving flags in the street. You've seen that one. Yes? Yes, they're happy. Those flags are for a soccer team. That was for a soccer tournament. Yeah, this is all over the internet. >> I've seen people get on Instagram and say I wish my parents were alive >> so full of [ __ ] your eyes are brown. >> Now, wait a minute. One more One other thing. He really wasn't president. That election that they so said that he won was not. It was rigged. That sounds familiar. Just like Putin. So, you would be okay with us doing this to Putin, right? Yeah, but you won't do it to Putin. You know why? Putin's not bringing drugs to America. You're saying you Trump did this. That's where they got the He's where He paid them for the oil. Okay. Let me ask you this. He can't do that anymore. This man that was brought back to the United States with his wife last night or a day ago, he had ordered kidnappings. He had ordered >> Yes, he's a piece of [ __ ] We're not saying that. >> And he was supposed to be back in the United States in 2020. >> you two are sitting here telling us that everybody in that country loves his [ __ ] ass. Nobody's saying that. I'm sorry that he's gone. No, there's definitely people that are happy he's gone. >> horse [ __ ] You guys got [ __ ] so far up your ass you don't even touch your head and Now, they just have an American dictator in charge of them. Nobody wants to see their country [ __ ] overrun by another dictator from a different country. Move your [ __ ] ass to China. >> are trying to [ __ ] come here, but we have a president that puts them in a goddamn van and takes them to an undisclosed location. People are trying to move here. Because Venezuela is so corrupt, they're trying to immigrate here, but they can't now because we have a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] president. There are two people and probably more within the family that are so happy that he was taken down and brought back to the United States because now justice might be for Laken Riley. Laken Riley was slaughtered by Venezuelan illegal. You know her story, right? Strangled her. Okay. >> Went force trauma. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, that was Maduro's fault. Because that dictator said when the borders were open You guys have You got zero [ __ ] credibility. Okay. Trump has threatened Hang on. Trump has now threatened publicly to do the exact same thing to Mexico and Cuba. And I just saw a clip of him on Fox News saying, "We can do it anywhere we want. Nobody can stop us." How about Colombia? >> Colombia Nigeria They're all going to They're all going to get it. So, you think the smashing The very first place we ought to go is Somalia and annihilate those [ __ ] So, you are for World War III and you are for us creating it. people who hurt us. People who try to kill Americans, yes. I'm 100% >> madness. And I want to start it by blowing Somalia off the face of the earth. Now, this guy had several attempts and by Rubio. Rubio said that they had talked to him several times and said we can do this good, we can do it the right way. We'll get you out of there, you can go somewhere else. You just have to stop this drug stuff. And he would not do it. He said, "Come and get me, motherfuckers." He said that on X. He goes, "You want me? Come on in and get me." So, guess what? FAFO. You know what that means? Yes. >> [ __ ] around and find out. And that's exactly what we >> question here is Trump is now essentially saying, "We're going to do this to other countries. Here are the next ones in the line." >> Yes. What do you think that does to the attitude about America of every other country in the world? No, you know, the only other countries in the world that it affects at all are the three or four that he's already named. He said we can do it to anybody. No one can stop us. >> anybody, but we won't. We'll do it to those four. And I'm going to I've got my I'm raising my hand to take Somalia to the [ __ ] bottom of the earth. This is Hitler [ __ ] No, it is not, Haley. It's making our country better, taking down the bad guys. You have to take down the bad guys for peace. >> the bad guys. No, we're not. When General Raising Cane got up there during the presser and was explaining the details and how it went down, I had goosebumps. I was like, "Our country's back." We have a president willing to do what he's supposed to do to help our country. How he said every branch of the every branch of the army was involved. The helicopters >> like you who have made our country weak as [ __ ] The scariest part is that it's the military is the military that just fell in line. Right. That was my next question. This was an illegal military action done without notifying Congress, which is required >> Absolutely. to do this? You know why? >> faith that the military is going to obey international law at all at this point? Are they just going to do whatever Trump says? Hey, it doesn't [ __ ] matter. You're You're baby whining. All these people >> It does. Hang on. Hang on. Mom, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. If we don't obey international law, that means every other country in the world that used to be our allies now cannot trust us. And we get kicked out of a kind of international alliance that has existed since World War II. Oh, are you [ __ ] kidding me? We've been in an alliance with Venezuela, Cuba, and Mexico? I'm talking about primarily European >> you're just [ __ ] stupid. Not as stupid as you, piggy. >> Oh, I Okay. Little piggy got riled up. >> This was not a war. You guys are Well, I don't want to use that word, but >> You are stupid. >> This was merely they extracted those two people that had a warrant out for them. >> Fine. Mom, so do you They didn't need to ask Congress to do this. They did. Do you think No, they didn't. It only has to be approved in in wartime. Okay. So so Trump then can say, "We're not declaring war." And he can just take the military and attack anybody he wants. It's not a war. It's not. He was bringing back two people that were indicted in 2020 to stand trial. Uh-huh. Where did Dad go? Where do you think? He had to go to the bathroom. Congress only needs voted. They need to vote if we're going to go to war. This was not a war. So, that's why they >> insane. If this was a Democratic president, you'd be all over this [ __ ] You know No, if Biden would have done it, you would have loved it and been standing up doing flags. But >> true. This I don't know why you think Hang on, Mom. Wait a minute, Mom. Mom, wait. Wait. Wait. What? You constantly say this thing about, "Well, if Biden would have done it, you would have loved it." Haley and I were incredibly critical of many things Joe Biden did. Pardoning his son, continuing to run after he clearly was mentally unfit to do it, etc., etc. The list goes on and on. Every time he would do something that we disagreed with, we were vocal about that. We said we didn't like him multiple times, and you and Dad constantly attribute some kind of unyielding loyalty to Biden to me and Haley, and it doesn't exist. We aren't like you. We are not in a cult. We're not like you. I [ __ ] hate politics. I hate politicians. I wish you would all [ __ ] burn to the ground and start something new. No, that's real. I'm not in a [ __ ] cult. I do not have loyalty for a [ __ ] leader of any country. I don't wear their merch. I don't follow them blindly. That's [ __ ] insane. What are you doing? I'm covering up for a second. There we go. Are you down? Is he naked or something? What? I I thought maybe he was naked again. No. Okay. Wait a minute. I want to say this. Like I said, and you guys were just laughing me off. >> guys better get on board for killing Somalis. Okay, stop about that. We're not talking about that. It was an extra um extraction of just two people that they were warranted back in 2020. >> had to kill other people. They launched missiles into buildings to do this. It It wasn't like they walked in and said like, "Hey, Maduro, come with us." They had military helicopters launching missiles into locations in the capital of a [ __ ] country. It would be like if helicopters flew over DC, fired missiles into multiple buildings, and then kidnapped Donald Trump. And you know why that's not possible? Cuz they're afraid they'll get their [ __ ] ass kicked if they try. And for security reasons and security leaks, no one on the Democratic side could If we didn't have we didn't have a power powerful military, it could happen here. No one could be told cuz this would be leaked out, and then our people would be killed. Okay. I have one more question. Saturday, January 3rd, was the day the DOJ was legally required to provide information about the redactions in the Epstein files. They did not provide that information, breaking the law once again. >> Are we Are you ever going to get tired of Epstein? No, he's not. I thought you guys cared about the pedophile rings and protecting children. I want to I want to help me open. So, you know there are 10 co-conspirators now with Epstein, none of whom have been identified except the one guy who was the uh Victoria's Secret billionaire or whatever. So, we now know there are nine other people in those files. >> about Epstein and his files. Okay. Well, that gets to the point of my question. A big date was January 3rd for the Epstein files for new information to come out. The DOJ did not put it out. They broke the law again. Do you think this attack in Venezuela was at all motivated to cover that up, to distract >> They were going to do this anyway, but it was 100% planned for that date. Like absolutely. Okay. So, you know more than General Raising Cane, I guess, because General Raising Cane said they had been practicing. They had been going over directions, how to do this for months and months and months. That dictator would go day by day to different sites, different places he would sleep. They knew everything on the day that he moved, and they had to wait until he moved to this particular location where they had planned to take him. So, no. They had not planned it on January 3rd, to be exact. I do not believe that with every part of my soul. I do Well, I'm just going to do what you always do. That's fake news. I don't know what source you're using. I don't believe you. The General Raising Cane. Raising Cane is AI. Raising Cane is AI. Fake news. That's CNN's what he did it on. That's fake news. Mom, let me ask you about this DOJ deadline that they blew on the Epstein files. Dad doesn't care about children being sexually assaulted. Yes, he does. Now, why do He just said he doesn't. He just said he doesn't. He said he doesn't give a [ __ ] How many How many childs or children right now are being sexually abused by Epstein? So, all is forgiven then? The the hundreds of victims that he had trafficked? No, I'm talking about as of right [ __ ] now. >> We know there's more victims. >> So, I don't So, I don't get I don't need to rehash old news every time you get on here. So, no justice for for any of the victims is what you're saying. You don't give a [ __ ] That That ship sailed. I believe there should be justice for victims. Okay. So, then what do you think should happen to the DOJ right now who has broken the law twice? They need to bring it up next week and get them all back in there. And then there's two other big dates coming up that we know. January 30th, January 31st. Our health care and also our government could shut down again. Well, Those are huge dates along with Epstein. So, those three they need to figure this out. >> Don't you believe that people belong in jail for breaking the law? Oh, yeah. Let's So, throw who in into the jail? >> Fired and [ __ ] in jail. They are breaking laws. The head of the DOJ. That law that Trump signed, the Epstein Transparency Act or whatever the [ __ ] it was called, said those files had to be released by December 19th, I believe was the date. They didn't release them all on that day. They broke the law there. How many of them were released? Now, here we are Here we are talking about Epstein when the main topic of today deals Venezuela oil. You're proving my point. Exactly. And that's how they [ __ ] got you cuz you guys are [ __ ] dumb as [ __ ] Let's move on. We have to We're half an hour into the show. We have to move on. >> you are dumb as [ __ ] Oh my god. >> You have completely closed your eyes to the [ __ ] that matters because you believe all their propaganda. YOU YOU CONSTANTLY call me and Chad stupid, [ __ ] and all this [ __ ] You're the [ __ ] dumbasses. Your [ __ ] Your [ __ ] is way past your hairline. It is It is It is like infuriating to sit here and listen to you guys regurgitate uh What do you watch? Newsmax? And what's his name? Smokey Joe? Like this is [ __ ] insane. CNN is where you got this one, honeybuns. I did try to do the CNN. Your Your main network, CNN. >> Okay, I did try to do the What's it called? The news The one that you told me to look up. Brown news. Yeah. >> But it cost money and I didn't have any money to get >> I'll see what I can do. I'll see what I can do and maybe you and me can make a video about it. We have to move on. We're half an hour into the show. Topic number two. >> going to get to all your topics, so I know. I want to get to the big ones. [ __ ] Epstein [ __ ] and get on with the oil. I do care about survivors. literally the biggest [ __ ] news story ever, and you want to move on past it. We have released them in the [ __ ] whole world, Pam millions. We released We've done Epstein God damn at least six times on this podcast. >> They have released them in the [ __ ] whole world, Pam millions. is all over the Epstein files. 10 million. Yeah, there was a whole new thing where they were like, "Oh, we've got 50 more million we didn't know about." >> Then why aren't we seeing more of that? Why aren't you >> Because Pam Bondi is hiding it from us. Okay. I don't Because Trump is saying [ __ ] it, do this Venezuela thing. People stop talking about it. It worked on you, Dad. I don't think he needs to hide anything from you guys. You're You're dumber than your [ __ ] hairline. Dad, you got brainwashed. >> Somebody needs to kidnap Trump, dig into the Epstein files. to say one more thing then we'll move on. >> Oh, Jesus. All right. >> For the first time in decades, the people of Venezuela are celebrating hope. That's fake news. >> If you are an American or a liberal and you're upset that this dictator fell, you need to ask yourself, what side are you on? It's not black and white. This is a complicated situation. Maduro is a piece of [ __ ] It's good that he's not in charge of that country anymore. Who knows who's going to replace him though? It could be even worse. The next step could be worse. We don't know that. You can't say that. We're the bad people at the top. We're the bad people at the top. Trump is going to carve up the oil rights of that country and give it to his [ __ ] buddies. Rex Tillerson, who was his Secretary of What was he? He was the Secretary of something in his first cabinet, was the the [ __ ] CEO of Exxon. He's going to let private oil companies come in and drill for oil and then give that money If you're so [ __ ] smart about the oil business, tell me the only oil company that's in Venezuela right now. Uh it's probably a Russian one. Tell me. What's the name of it? Chevron. Chevron. Chevron, a United States company. Only oil company with business in Venezuela. We We have to move on. We have to move on. Our second issue is the health care crisis. On January 1st Shut up, piggy. On January 1st the Obamacare Quiet, piggy. Quiet, piggy. Quiet, little piggy. Look at the piggy. Piggy. [ __ ] On January 1st, the Obamacare tax credits that help lower health insurance premiums for millions of Americans expired because Republicans in Congress rejected Democratic bills that would have extended them before the end of 2025. With the enhanced credits gone, health insurance premiums in the ACA marketplaces are set to double uh starting this month, making health care unaffordable for roughly 20% of Americans getting their insurance from Obamacare. That's about 5 million people. To compound the negative effect, experts believe many young people will simply opt out of getting health insurance, making premiums rise even higher. Mom, do you think every American should have access to health care? Yes, I do, and they need to get their [ __ ] together, get this figured out by the end of the month, and make it right for people that need need health care. Yes. American citizens. And the next day >> Not the [ __ ] Somalis who have got this racket going. And the next day, the 31st, um our government is in trouble again for a shutdown, so they need to fix that, too. I wouldn't want to >> happened. The ACA subsidies expired. >> New York City, that guy's life expectancy is poop. We'll talk about that on Wednesday. Um why do you think the Republicans don't want Americans to have health care? I I never thought that that they >> The problem is They're the ones who blocked it multiple times. The Somalis got thousands of people on our health care system, and they're all illegal. Not just Somalis. >> That's not true. You can't even sign up for ACA if you're not a citizen. It's all illegals. They came across the border with free health care. You don't understand how their system works. You clearly don't. You can't I won't put them down. You cannot get health care through the ACA unless you are a citizen. That's not true. Okay. That right there is a [ __ ] lie. >> them cards as they came across the border for free everything, including health care, and I can bring that information next time we come. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. So, you think the Republicans do care about this, but every time multiple bills were presented in both the Senate and Congress by Democrats to extend these subsidies beyond this deadline, Republicans shut it down every time. They're not going to give it to illegal immigrants. They're going to give it to people our United States people that need the health care, and they need to fix that. >> giving it to our United States people. I just told you 5 million Americans are going to have their health care double and not be able to afford it. >> If our government cared about our health and our health care system, we would now have universal health care. We'd be paying taxes to go toward everyone getting free [ __ ] health care. Obamacare is no good. Every other developed nation, every other [ __ ] country has universal health care. Yeah, how's that working out? It's working for those countries. Canada, you might have to wait a [ __ ] year to get That is not true. That is a [ __ ] lie. No, it is not. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you'd lived in Canada or even traveled outside of the United States in the last 30 years. I can read, which is more than you can do. I I I have friends that live in other countries. Chad has had a girlfriend that lives in [ __ ] Canada at one point in time. I I remember going literally to a doctor and it was just like, "Oh [ __ ] something's weird with my eye today." You make a phone call, you're in a doctor's office about an hour later. That was probably before the pandemic, too. You guys are just You're full of [ __ ] That was before the pandemic. >> There are actual facts that exist. You just refuse to believe them. Okay. The fact that we don't have universal health care is because they want money. They don't care about our health. I don't want to argue anymore. You need to take that. No, it might be important, though. Can you Just turn your phone off for Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Just engage with the show for an hour. That's all I'm asking. [ __ ] I I have somebody in my bakery who does not have insurance. Are you listening to me? No, they're not listening at all. What are you doing? Dad, put the [ __ ] phone down. who does not have Go get your cats. Yeah. See, that's okay. >> I'm going to talk to both your cats, then you two. >> I'm listening, Haley. Go. What's the [ __ ] point? There's no [ __ ] point. Exactly. You don't give a [ __ ] and you don't hear me. What's the point? You talk over me. You look at your [ __ ] phone. What's the [ __ ] point? >> Oh my gosh. Let's done. Bye-bye. Love y'all. I'm out. >> What? Not going to do this in front of people. >> Yeah, Mom, stay. We have multiple topics. We still have 20 minutes to get through the show. Just stay chill. >> nicer, we'll be nicer or we'll be done. Yeah. I just I JUST RESPECT MY [ __ ] TIME. IF I'M here talking to you, listen. All right. We need to do a simmer down now. We're going to do a simmer down. Okay? [ __ ] has gotten wild. Let's simmer this right the [ __ ] down. This is going to be I'm going to ask a question. No one to answer it. Answer it in your mind. Then I'm going to say 1 2 3, and we're all going to answer it at the same time. Okay? And then discuss. Are you ready? Again, I'm going to ask this question. Answer it in your mind only, not out loud. What do you think is the most prominent Kultgen family physical trait? Okay? Lock it away. Now I'm going to say 1 2 3, and on three we all say what we think. Ready? 1 2 3. Thick limbs. Wait, Mom, what did you say? Receding forehead. You all said forehead? Yeah. I said thick limbs. We do have thick limbs, also. And all of my children Yeah, there's a thickness to us All of my children have the thickness, also. I No one else said forehead? I'm pretty sure. You didn't get any thickness from the Popes? Uh yeah, a little bit, yeah. But it's not like I don't Our thickness is a weird thickness. It's a thickness of the limbs. Like I have gigantic calves that don't look right on my body. I feel like Yeah, me too. >> Yeah, it's a thickness of the like even my forearms and stuff don't they're like thick. >> say but I will say like um especially as an adult woman like it is I think easier for me to build and maintain muscle. Like I think we have some kind of like like a denser muscle mass than a lot of people. >> Maybe. We're big because my weight you know like when I get on a scale everybody is shocked at a doctor's office like with my weight. Because I'm petite. I'm like 5'2 you know and when I get on the scale like they're like oh they didn't expect it and I think I weigh like probably 15 20 pounds more than people anticipate because I'm like dense. >> density I really believe that. Yeah, I'm dense. >> nanny was a high school um catcher softball catcher because of her legs. I mean it has served me well. Like I said I could build muscle really easily. It's I don't know. Okay. All right, well speaking of bodies our third topic is Trump's declining health. This week a Wall Street Journal interview with Trump was published in which Trump tried to defend his health. He repeatedly bragged about acing multiple cognitive examinations tests only given to patients who exhibit clear signs of cognitive decline. Trump also lied about the numerous times he's been caught on camera falling asleep in meetings saying that he was just relaxing or blinking. One of the biggest focuses of the recent Trump health coverage has been the visible bruising on his hands. Now that the bruising is on both hands the lie that it's from shaking other people's hands no longer makes sense. So Trump concocted what is likely another lie about taking 325 milligrams of aspirin per day to thin his blood despite doctors recommending a much lower dose. Trump is the oldest president in the history of America but maintains that he has perfect health. Mom, why do you think Trump lied about how his hands got bruised? Why do you think I'll answer that in a minute. Why do you think he lied about that much aspirin? Because doctors don't prescribe that much. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that he didn't take that much. I mean I don't know that he lied but it seems like a lie as literally everything related to his health has been a lie so far. One baby aspirin a day does make you bruise more easily. Your dad has to take one. He bruises a lot. >> That's fine. The question was why did Trump lie about how his hands got bruised? Because he didn't want to tell us the truth I guess. That he's sick. No, I think he is very very tired. He works non-stop to make our country great make our >> golf courses. Up all night taking down the bad guys. He's tired. I see it in the clips. I see it in his face. He's tired. So him sleeping on the job is he's tired. Sleeping sleeping on the job he's dying. Well, I don't see how he could sleep on the job when he pulled off one of the biggest in history take downs last night. I don't >> I we we have video and photographic evidence of him sleeping. He's just shutting his eyes and resting. >> it to you on the show. He said he's taking down. Right, that's a lie. That's what I'm saying. You've seen the video evidence both of you. I've shown it to you. He falls asleep in these meetings. >> He's working in overtime. He is not dying. dying But why is he lying about that? Don't compare him to Joe Biden. Joe Biden was [ __ ] on vacation for four years and all he did was sleep. So is our entire government. >> I'm not making up excuses for him. I'm making up excuses. He's very tired. He's working in over >> The question is why is he lying to America about that? About what? That he's tired? >> Saying that he's not falling asleep. Saying that the reason my hands are bruised is cuz I'm shaking so many hands. >> Other countries that would not look >> his hands are bruised is he's taking way too much aspirin. I take one baby aspirin. If you touch me hard I bruise immediately. So shaking hands with somebody would make him bruise back. He's got bruises on the back of both hands. He's only shaking hands with his right hand. See my fingers and hands they shake. I take one baby aspirin. Right and you're the pinnacle of health. No, I'm not the pinnacle of health but I'm damn sure far from dying. To build up energy maybe he is getting some type of IV infusions which I would say more power to you. And you think they do that in the first spot first of all Haley that was one of the dumbest comments I've ever heard in my life. There's nobody over 70 who's in the pinnacle of health. That's right. Okay, let me ask you this. Nobody zero people including your Lord and savior Donald Trump. So when he says they have perfect [ __ ] health you're telling me that that's inaccurate. He's healthy enough to do the job. As Chad would say from the day we're born we start to die. Let me ask you this. Why do you think doctors have administered multiple cognitive tests to him? I thought there was one that he said he passed. I did not know there was multiple. That's what came out in this article. He has taken multiple cognitive tests. He claims he quote aced them all. These tests are only given to people that doctors think need them. So what's your point? I'm asking you. Why do you think they I'm telling you I'm telling you the doctors are obviously [ __ ] wrong. Okay, so then he's not perfect. Well, let me let me put it to you this way. The fact that a doctor in this world is wrong 99% of them couldn't diagnose my [ __ ] Okay, but they did Haley. So okay, um let me move on here to our next topic which is dirty water. This week Trump issued his first veto of this term vetoing HR 131 the finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit Act. The bill which would help finish a long delayed pipeline project meant to deliver cleaner drinking water to 39 communities in Southeastern Colorado had passed Congress unanimously both the house and the Senate and was backed by Colorado's delegation across parties including Lauren Boebert who sponsored it in the house. Trump vetoed the bill arguing the project is too costly but Boebert recently broke with Trump by supporting more transparency around the Epstein files and it seems clear the veto is Trump's petty politically motivated payback against Boebert. Groundwater in the lower Arkansas Valley contains radioactive contaminants such as radium and uranium increasing cancer risks for those living in the area. This bill would have delivered clean water to those communities. Jesus. Mom, why do you think Trump vetoed this clean water bill? I read about it. They're calling it it's called the Arkansas Valley Conduit I think. It was started way back in the 1960s. They called it the ACV. It was first authorized to do extensive work here we go 2009 by Obama a signed bill. He signed the bill including cost sharing plans for that particular thing that they want put in and done. At that time it was 65% federal money and 35% local. So now what Trump is and then during Trump's first term he gave them 28 million to keep it going and keep doing it. What he's trying to say is if we keep putting more money in and it's not getting any better it's not going to work. He doesn't want the taxpayers have to pay for all of it. That's kind of my interpretation of what I read. It passed unanimously through both parts of Congress. He's just a petty [ __ ] No, he's trying to say I don't know at someone who broke ties with him. He's trying to think of a better way so that it's not all burdened on taxpayers. What's the better way? He he has no better way. He's not offering an alternative. Dad, why do you think he vetoed this? Dad didn't read. He doesn't know about it. He's a petty [ __ ] Okay, that's my opinion not ours. Do you think Mom a good person would veto this bill that puts tens of thousands of Americans [Music] [Music] [Music] at risk of cancer? Risk of cancer? They haven't got cancer in the last on to our next topic, Trump's friends. This week a profile on Marjorie Taylor Greene published in the New York Times magazine included Greene's claim that Trump told her if she pushed publicly to release more of the Epstein investigation files, quote, "My friends will get hurt." The comment came during a heated phone call after Greene publicly threatened to disclose disclose alleged abusers linked to Epstein and Trump. Uh and Trump reportedly yelled this on a speakerphone in her Capitol Hill office. Greene says all of her staffers were there and also witnessed Trump's reaction when she suggested inviting Epstein survivors to the Oval Office and when she continued to advocate for transparency. The White House dismissed Greene's account as petty bitterness and not a clear attempt by Trump to silence anyone trying to release the Epstein files. Mom, do you believe Trump told Marjorie Taylor Greene that if the Epstein files came out it would hurt his friends? Maybe, but I don't believe much from her anymore either because she Cuz she went against Trump. She's exiting. She doesn't like Trump anymore. Just like we know people that don't like him anymore cuz they've been fired from his administration and stuff and they say mean things about him. So. Yeah, well that's from being cancelled. Stop. We know it. Stop. Who? Nobody. He was an ex-lawyer. Stop. He got fired by Trump. Chad just said that there was like an entire room full of staffers that witnessed this behavior. Yeah. I I don't know what to believe on her because she doesn't like him anymore. So when people don't like him then they Do you acknowledge Trump was friends with Epstein? Mhm. Dad? >> saying the release of these files is going to hurt my friends. They're going to hurt a lot of people. Including his friends. So he's friends with pedophiles. Are you not putting that together? No, I guess I'm not. I'm too scared. >> Wait a minute. You just said you know he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein. You think Epstein was a pedophile, right? He kicked Epstein out of his life way long time ago. >> The No, that's wrong. The Epstein files have proof that they were still friends even after the the time Trump said they ended the friendship. That's not true. He hasn't seen him. What if I give that to >> Well, you're making it up. Haven't seen what? >> Greene, present Look at some more [ __ ] on that high forehead. Marjorie Taylor Greene, present [ __ ] day, is saying he told me to keep quiet because if I don't it will hurt his friends. That is alluding that friends today, friends that he has today. How convenient that she says this what, 2 days upon her exiting the government? Yeah. I don't I don't know what to believe her or not. I just know that she's become very against Trump. >> She's flip-flopped two or three times already. All right. So you're you're dismissing everything she's saying. I just want to kind of generally break down what has happened to you guys with the Epstein files. Every new thing that comes out implicates Trump further and further and further. If it's Marjorie Taylor Greene, hello? Did I lose you both? Mom, you're looking at your iPad. Dad's staring off into space. notes to say I'm looking at you. Every Every new thing that comes out implicates Trump further in this. That's your opinion. No, it's not. Listen to what I'm saying before you refute it out of nothing. This is just the latest thing. Marjorie Taylor Greene had a conversation with him where he said it will hurt my friends. Many people heard this. Stack that on top of every picture you've seen of him with Epstein, the videos where he's like, "Epstein's a good guy." The fact that he said Epstein stole a girl from me at Mar-a-Lago. On top of all of the Epstein files where his name appears more than any other person. All of this evidence, you dismiss every new piece of it that comes out. But volumetrically, like think of how much there is that is pointing toward Donald Trump was doing bad [ __ ] with Epstein. And you just say you laugh at it and you say, "No, no, that We can't believe what they say. We can't saying Donald Trump's name was in there a lot of times. We've We've talked about this. He's the one taking him down. Oh, right. You think he's an FBI informant? I think he's an informant helped take him down. I do. Dad, do you think that? Sure. Okay. Let's move on to um Anything else? Trump doesn't care about children. In reaction to the now 100% debunked claims made by YouTuber Nick Shirley that there was rampant fraud in the Somali child care community in Minnesota, Trump announced a freeze on federal child care funds that support child care programs nationwide. Federal child care funds total billions of dollars annually to support subsidized child care for low-income families across the country. Approximately 1 million American families will be impacted and countless child care centers must now face possible layoffs, reduced enrollment, and even closures. Mom, why freeze funds nationwide if you believe this child care fraud is just happening in the Minnesota Somali community? >> it's just happening in Minnesota. I believe it's happening in Ohio, Washington State, at Carolina State, um Due to all this fraud while due to all this fraud the the payments uh won't resume until documentation is is given back. >> All these payments are going to Somalia. >> to our federal government Somalia. Dad, you're wrong. This is nationwide. The documentation that they have to send back is stuff like um how many kids are in that daycare, uh what time do they come, um they have to verify uh each kid and how and how much money per kid was going, how much per staff. It's all stopped nationwide until those daycares can give that documentation. Once they do they're back open. There is something bigger at hand, okay? So like we are now We are now calling We are saying nurses are no longer professionals. We are taking away like titles from predominantly female-driven jobs. We are now closing federal babysitters, child care centers. There is something bigger at hand here and it's part of Project 2025 and it's called putting women back in the [ __ ] home, taking care of the babies, and promoting this culture of white nationalism, Christian nationalism, where women are no longer working. Women now have to rear the children and stay home. Do you not see all of this happening? Yes, what you were describing >> they saying that nurses aren't professionals? What you were describing is fraud. That's why things are being shut down now and doing it the right way. They also have to include in daycares the attendance records, inspection records, the number of kids per staff. Once that's given back to the federal government, they reopen. Mom's putting up the brick wall defense. Ignore what you say, read the talking point. There's something bigger at hand that you refuse to acknowledge and it's going to young women all over the United States. They're trying to fund their goddamn terrorism. Okay. Let me ask you this. Do you think that How can you think that Trump cares about kids in America when he's literally taking away money from them? Because he's not letting it go out in fraud. Okay. They also just defunded But they also he's getting money away from the terrorists. defunded like a pediatric cancer What Haley say it again. The government defunded like a federal program that was funding research for pediatric cancer. Why would they do that? If they care about kids, why would they do that? That one I don't know and I haven't read about it, but I will. Give me the name of what the organization is, whatever. I'll read about it. There goes Chad. All I'm saying is Trump is holding people accountable now and the left doesn't like it. Y'all are pushing back. This is way it needs to be. People need to be held accountable. Right. So all across the United States children should not have care is what you're saying. Those doors can open when they show the documentation that our government needs. [Music] Hang on though. Mom, you're talking about Somalis, it's all fraud, it's all fraud. Do you think 100% of all federally funded child care centers are committing fraud? No. Turn in the documentation, they're Right. So some of them, right, are going to be very drastically affected by this. Even if it's a week, even if it's 2 weeks, something like that where they have to shut down to get their files in order and then they have to show those files to the government. The government has to okay it. They should be ready to go in if Do you think the government Do you think it's instantaneous? Here's our files. Okay, you stay open. It's going to take however long it's going to take for the [ __ ] up government to get their [ __ ] together, to receive those files. And Dad, you're giving me the wrap it up sign? You're not even listening to this. That means parents have to then take care of their children which means they can't go to their place of business, which means you run the risk of losing your [ __ ] job. Because the bad people did this. There's bad >> is the bad people. >> No, they're not. The people taking our money away, committing fraud >> Somalia >> did this. Stop it with the Somalias. Well, that's who's doing it. No, they're not. There's other people, too. Um I had one last topic I want to cover this quickly. There was a new rule that came out this week about postmarking. Did you guys see this? Yeah. Not postmarked. >> So, it's a new system. Goes into effect this week. Instead of mail being postmarked on the date it's dropped in a mailbox or handed in at a local post office, it's now going to be postmarked when it's first processed at a regional mail facility. This could be a day, it could be 3 days, 4 days, it could be any amount of time after you drop that mail off or put it in the mailbox. The decision was made by the USPS Board of Governors led by the Postmaster General David P. Steiner, who Trump strongly supported for that role. Right. In a lot of states, you have election law that says a mail-in ballot is good as long as it's postmarked by the date of the election. Well, now you can turn in your ballot on that day and it may not get postmarked until 1 2 3 4 days later and then that ballot's rejected. So, no more mail-in fraud. Yeah, you have You have to give a driver's license. It's >> How does a 1 or 2-day period how is that implicating fraud? That they dumped them whenever they dumped them. What's wrong with voter ID? A picture? A driver's license? >> nothing to do with voter ID. Has nothing to do with voter ID. This is mail-in ballots. Right. No more mail-in ballots. Do it in person. That's ridiculous. Oh my god. >> What if you can't get there in person? Tough [ __ ] >> you don't vote. Yeah, I don't like that. That's even for just not voter ID voters and elections. It's also for payment of bills and stuff. >> Yes, correct. >> the bill do? So, now we have to do it a week ahead? Yep. Yep. It affects a lot of things. >> and hope that it gets there in time. We vote a week ahead? I don't think you can do that. You're going to have to. You have to mail in your ballot at least a week ahead. And even in that case, now what it allows too, because Trump now controls the USPS, it allows him to just lean on this guy, the Postmaster General, and just be like, "Hey, I uh why don't you just roll back the post dates for all the ballots that you get by a couple of weeks?" >> one year we did mail in our ballots and I made sure that they were in way early. Way early. Sure, but I'm saying way early doesn't matter. He now can control the entire mail-in system. He can postmark all the ballots any [ __ ] date he wants. Good. Well, he's not running again, so. Who's not? I don't think Trump will run again. Uh we'll see. Um all right. Well, that wraps up this show. What a doozy it has been. We are living now under a full dictator who is wielding our US military without any kind of congressional approval or even their knowledge. And he has claimed that he's going to do this to other countries as well. This is a full-blown dictator who is bent on world domination or at least the domination of the Western Hemisphere. >> like this. >> to close. I'm going to close like this. I've never been more than proud to be an American. Never. Okay, well, let me close like this. I'm ashamed. He's not my president. I don't agree with any of this [ __ ] So, all of my international fans out there, please know I'm sorry. I wish it wasn't this way. And if I could move to your country, I would. It's a [ __ ] disgrace. I'll close with a 2026 prediction. I was going to do some New Year's resolutions, but instead let's let's do with a prediction. Each one of us gets a prediction. Uh go for it. Haley. For what? >> 2026. Yeah, what's going to happen this year? Um [ __ ] It's honestly too scary to think about. Like I woke up to the news of Venezuela and everything in me like both Conrad and I were having like anxiety attacks. And like >> Oh my god. >> a little dream about it. Yeah, I was like, is this is this the point where we cut and run? Yeah. Is it does this have to be political? Are we doing political What? Just one prediction for 2026. Haley, too afraid to make one? Mom? No, I'll make one. Um Donald Trump is going to die. That was mine as well. I predict if we're going to do political ones, I predict the New York That's rude. That's not even nice, Haley. >> [ __ ] hoping, hoping, praying. >> Praying. Same. Wow. >> Hoping. Wow. Wow. I'm I'm hoping for a better heart in both you and Chad. Huh? More kindness, more willing to get along. Right. We want universal health care. You want all the kids in Gaza to die. But we need the better heart. >> I know. I like how you're like, "You guys have to be nicer." Meanwhile, the guy sitting right there to your left is telling us to "You can't stack [ __ ] as high as your forehead." Right. Right. Okay. >> I have not liked this podcast. If it continues like this, I'm out. And I told you that. There you go. That's a prediction. That's a prediction right there. I predict if Mom's out, I'm out. These aren't predictions. Yeah. Yeah, they are. I'm talking about like world events >> type [ __ ] >> the New York the New York mayor will not last very long at all. He's already doing all weird stuff. He's not going to last. My prediction is the four mongols that are in Congress right now will all disappear. Okay, that's enough. Mongols. There you go. You figure out who the four mongols are. I don't even know what you're saying. I'm not even going to be able to, but thank you for your predictions. Thank you everybody out there for joining us this week. Before we go, as always, Haley, I love you. Mom, I'm sorry that today was so brutal for you. I hope you can come back to the show. Um I love you. Dad, even though you called me a [ __ ] stack or whatever, I love you as well. >> No, your [ __ ] your [ __ ] is stacked over your head. Chad, I love you. Mom, I'm sorry I yelled at you. I get heated over this [ __ ] because I feel very strongly about it and I wish that you would just open your eyes sometimes. It is infuriating. So, I apologize for being mean and yelling, but I get really [ __ ] heated over some of this [ __ ] It matters to me. Dad, I love you. Mom, I love you. I love you, Haley. I love you, Chad. I love you, Mom. I love all of you. Let's wrap it up. All right. Well, see somebody's going to do a Wednesday show. And if you're watching this on Sunday, I will be going live tonight at 6:00 p.m. PST to discuss >> And Haley will be there, too. No. >> Are you going to do it, Mom? You're taking it off? All right, it'll be me and Haley, the Lib Sibs, holding it down, answering questions about today's show and anything else you may have. We hope to see you there. Bye.