Transcript
Full text
In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colchin. With me is my sister. She's reading text messages, not paying attention to what's going on here, of course. And my mom and dad living in one of the red estates in America. Yay. Praying to their orange god, Donald Trump. Yay. My sister head to toe tattooed. All those I assume are MS13 gang tattoos. Everyone. Fantastic. Welcome to the show. Today we have six topics. A lot happened this week. Of course, we had Pete Hegsth once again showing how completely competent he is at his job. We had Donald Trump attacking the judicial system, the colleges of America, the economy of America, all kinds of stuff. We've got Elon Musk saying, "I've had enough. I'm leaving Donald Trump's government." Uh, we're going to be getting to all of that as well as a listener question. And we're going to start off with mom as we always do. You have some diddies. It's well it kind of is a diddy but really not. It was just about the pope's death and they got embarried now farewell from all the Catholics and Christians. But what I what I liked what I liked about some of the things I saw on TV is not only did religious uh people come for him and go to the funeral, there was a lot of high government officials. And it's funny how state uh government and government and religion is all supposed to be separated. But somehow his death brought everyone together. Um, including President Trump and Zalinsky. They had a meeting right there. You saw the official picture. Um, so they're back into talks and maybe maybe somehow through all of this and his his death, we'll bring our world back together a little bit better. Will not. Agreed. We will see. Dad, were you affected by the Pope's death? No. But you're you're Catholic. You're Christian as you've said many times. Yeah. I'm just glad the whole damn thing's over. Well, whole damn thing on TV. Drug it out for months. Oh, the funeral. I thought you meant Catholicism. I think that's still happening. I was like, wait, what? Like the papa is done. It's over. But then u Yeah, he was talking about it was on TV so long. But then what I think too is how they picked the next one is kind of different. Did you know there's is it the first black pope that they could potentially choose? Is that Did you guys read that? No, have not. I paid zero. One of them one of them is from uh Korea and the other I think is American and he's black. How do you feel about that? It doesn't matter if probably won't happen if they're purple, green, blue, or black as long as they're voted in and can do what the Catholic people want them to lead by. Uh twothirds of a vote have to come from those cardinals and there's what 135 and then is it what's the age, Bob? They have to be under under 80 years of of age. So it'll be interesting to see who they pick. You know, I'm sure you've seen. Do you know how the people are alerted that they have picked the next pope? Smoke. What color? White smoke. But you're not Catholic, are you? Okay. And if the black smoke comes and they're still deciding, liberating and the vote was not twothirds. And all they do is each one of those cardinals have a they have a piece of paper and they write on there, my vote is and then someone reads them and there you go. The Catholic Church is ripe with corruption and child molestation. That's your opinion. No, that's fact. Yeah, that ain't no opinion. Okay. This last pope was very um what generational and a lot of people did like him, some did not. Mhm. Historically, it's all corrupt. All of it. Did you like him, Mom? I didn't know him. I mean, some of the things he did is good, of course. Some was very um little wokeness mixed in there, I do believe. Yeah, he was he was outspoken about uh not agreeing with Donald Trump and and deporting immigrants. And you know, he made the statement that maybe he didn't make the statement, but it was put out in the news like if Jesus came to America today, that [ __ ] would be deported. Mhm. Well, rest in peace. RIP Pope. Uh hopefully the next one's better. Let's now move on to a listener question. And if you have a question you want to send to any of us or all of us, you just record it in a 1 minute or shorter video format or audio if you have to, but I prefer the video ones and email it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Are you ready for today's question, Mom and Dad and Haley? Yes. Here we go. Hi, Cultin family. My name is Michelle and I'm 36 years old calling from Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Thank you for your podcast. I feel an extreme range and intensity of emotions that I never expected to feel every single time I listen. So my question to you is about becoming the 51st state. As a Canadian, I wonder why anyone would choose to become Americans at this point. um given the immediate loss of health care um given the direction that things are going with the public education with um academic rights with women's rights with LGBTQ rights um so my question is to anybody I would love to hear your pitch about what how it would benefit Canadians to become the 51st state thank you can't wait to hear All right had. Why would any Canadian want to become an American? Yeah, it's not going to be up to them. They're going to go broke. Wait, it's not going to be up to Canada. Hang on. Hang on. Who the It will not be up to Canada. They're going to go broke. They're going to have no money. Her free medical U aid and all that stuff is going to go bye-bye because you know who's [ __ ] paying for it? We are. The United States of America has kept Canada afloat for the last two decades. And if we don't give them their money and we keep the tariffs on, they will go broke. They will have to knuckle down and they will become the 51st state. But you're saying they don't make the choice. You think America just says that's correct. Canadians will have zero to say about it. Please don't yell. And so, but how does that happen? Let's say that what you're saying is true. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Let's say what you're saying is true. Hang on a minute. Okay. I have no money. Let's say what you're saying is true. They are going to go to zero. The the Canadian government loses all of its money. What is then the next step to America saying you're now the 51st state? We just take them over financially. In what way? You want You want like that girl who's on there just now. You want to eat? you're gonna go to the you're gonna be a 51st state. Okay? You want medical attention, you're going to become a 51st state. If you don't, you're gonna have no food, you're gonna have no clothes, you're going to have no nothing. And okay, that's inaccurate. None of that's going to happen. And there is literally no reason to want to be an American citizen. Inaccurate. They will go broke. Okay. In fact, in fact, they're damn near there now. Okay. And so, let me ask you this. All the people that live in Canada now, it's not up to them. Okay. Okay. I'm not saying it is. Let's I'm going with your theory. It's not up to them. They go broke. America just says you're the 51st state now. Every one of those people now starts uh into the social security program. So, how much money do you think America? No, they don't. Oh, they're the only state in the country that doesn't get social security. They don't get social security until they pay into it, big guy. Okay. So, so you get paid zero. So you get none of the benefit of being American and all the detriment. It'll take it'll take couple of years before they get anything. See, they're going to be suffering big time. Okay. Mom, what do you what do you think? Why would any Canadian want to become American? It's not up to them. I don't know. I mean, I do believe the United States is the best place to live. And in regard and even though our country right now is going through a lot of change because of President Trump, people are going, "Oh my god, oh my god, it will get better." And I still believe in our country. I still believe it's the best place to live. Um, it's not, you know, like, okay, Haley, when you want to go out of the country or to a different country, do you really think that you would be able to do your bakery, do all your movements and everything that you say on social media like that in another country? Yeah, 100%. Okay. I don't think without the fear of being thrown in [ __ ] jail. I don't think you would be able to. And I think my kids could protest in college without being thrown in jail. deported. Yeah, there are lots of things that I could uh achieve in other countries without the fear of being penalized. I just did. What? An abortion. I could get an abortion and not go to Name one country. Uh Switzerland, Scotland, [ __ ] Okay. Spain. [ __ ] Portugal. [ __ ] France. Oh my god. Stop. Stop. Stop. I just think that that the latest question was very good and I think everybody right now with everything being changed all the turmoil a little bit of turmoil a lot about about the change that's occurring people are going oh my and that was do you realize though this is the only industrialized country without universal health care the only [ __ ] one where people's prescriptions cost too much so they [ __ ] [ __ ] die. You can go buy that [ __ ] in another country like France for $5. You can go see a doctor and walk out. We There are personal anecdotes of people we know who got their wisdom teeth out in France for like $100. Okay, [ __ ] But what kind of doctors are are there? Are they accredited? Yes, I think we have some of the best accredited doctors here. Hang on, Mom. Do you think in these other countries people are just dying left and right because the doctors don't know what they're doing? Yes. No. But I don't think the medical care is as good as it is here in the United States. A lot of them die because they don't get good treatment. If you have cancer, you stay here for treatment. Yeah. I have great cancer treatment. Three misdiagnoses in a row. A box operation. Cancerree. Yeah. You're sitting there. You're cancerree, Chad. Correct. But the treatment wasn't good. France, you'd be dead. It was good enough, but it wasn't good. They they made mistakes every step of the way. You guys have never You have never left this country. Dad has maybe once or twice, but everything we hear from him, it's [ __ ] You don't want to go there. When you see the world, when you leave this place and you see the world and you see how other people live and you understand that it's better than how you live it's [ __ ] eyeoping. Well, it's eye opening. If you want to go, go. I we can't hold you back. That's a good question. Yeah, thank you very much for the question. Trying to but like trying to explain to you and we do this frequently. trying to explain to you that there are better places to live than the United States is always met with [ __ ] resistance. You're wrong. You're wrong. It's all wrong. You don't even [ __ ] know. That's your opinion. You don't. I do. Actually, I've bought medicine in another country that would have cost me $200 here and it was [ __ ] 25. I do know. What a boy. Do you call her a boy? No. Oh, I thought he said what a boy, too. All right, let's move on. Thank you for your question. Uh, again, if anybody out there has a question for us, send it in a one minute or shorter video hopefully or audio clip to the necessary conversation pod atgmail.com. Let's move on to our first topic. This week, Trump attacked the judicial system. This week, under the direction of Trump appointee FBI Director Cash Patel, the FBI arrested Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan on federal charges of obstruction and concealing a person from arrest. The Trump administration alleges that Judge Dugan assisted Eduardo Flores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant facing misdemeanor charges in evading ICE agents by allowing him to exit the courtroom through a side door, a practice commonly used by judges nationwide. ICE agents did not present judicial a judicial warrant to Judge Dugan for the arrest of Eduardo Flores Ruiz. Instead, federal agents carried administrative warrant which does not compel compliance from judges or local law enforcement and lacks the authority of a court issued warrant. Flores Ruiz was later apprehended outside the courthouse. Judge Dugan was briefly detained and has since been released on bond. She is scheduled to appear in court on May 15th and has pledged to defend herself vigorously. Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash Patel have publicly championed the arrest with Bondi stating that judges who challenged the administration's agenda will be prosecuted. The arrest of a federal judge is so far the most dramatic authoritarian step taken by Trump in a clear attempt to intimidate the judicial branch of the government. Dad, do you think letting Flores Ruiz use that side door of the courthouse is a crime? Yes. And that bench needs to go to prison. Oh god. Okay. But it's not a crime. It is. Judges do it all the time. It's against the law right now and she needs to go to prison. It is not against the law. It's against the law. Mom, do you think it's a crime? What she did was she aided and abetted. Hang on. Hang on. I'm asking you this. Do you think letting that guy use that side door is a crime? Yes, because she escorted the him outside of the door and outside of the building. And that's fine. She told him, in fact, I have it right here. The courtroom deputy then saw Judge Dugan get up, heard the judge say something like, "Wait, come with me." Uh it states despite being advised of the of the administrative warrant for his arrest, she then escorted him out of the door and out of the building. That is aiding and abetting. It is not illegal. It is not. And a person that had committed crimes. No, that's wrong. But we say it is. Okay. Don't. But I'm Listen to what I'm telling you. That warrant I don't need to. Okay. Yes. Go. She broke the law. Going to jail. You're [ __ ] already on one, Dad. All right. That warrant they had is called an administrative warrant. It does not have judicial power. She legally was not compelled to help them in any way. That's a warrant issued from within ICE. A bunch of different federal agencies agencies can uh do these administrative warrants. The IRS can do it. Uh ICE ATF, which is what the law? No, those are warrants from within their own departments. They are not judicial warrants. So, it does not legally compel that judge to help them in any way. She's going to go to prison. Just wait. Okay. Um, let me ask you this. If judges can be punished by the president, by the executive branch just for disagreeing with them, how is this how is our legal system different than Russia or China? Probably isn't. And you're okay with that? I'm perfectly okay with this. But was he a citizen? No. Was he an illegal? Yes. That doesn't matter. She was trying to say, "Come back. Uh, go out that way. Stay in America. You're an illegal, but stay here." Which is her legal right. They did not have an official judicial warrant. She is not compelled under the law to have to help them in any way. Yeah. And we're going to we're going to see we're going to see whose law holds here. And your because what's happening now is he's coming after judges. And do you think when this case gets presented in front of another judge who's going to look at this and be like, "Well, [ __ ] he just arrested a judge. You think the judges aren't going to help each other?" No, they're going to do what's right. She wasn't doing what's right. Hang on. Hang on. The the whole judicial branch is now under What? What? Chad? No. What are you saying, Dad? He told you to hang on. I don't even know what he's talking about. You got You got no You got no stilts. You got nothing to stand on. You got no Let me see if I can find my stilts for you. All right. Look, right now. Quit saying she didn't break the law cuz she [ __ ] broke the current law, which is Donald Trump. No. For something to become a law. Okay, you're going to realize it pretty damn soon. Okay, let finish. What is happening right now is Trump and his administration, including Cash Patel, Pam Bond, they're trying to straighten up the corrupt judicial system. Okay, they are coming to they're trying to do judges. They are threatening judges. They are intimidating. That's right. In this case, they arrested one. They're all full of [ __ ] All right, just chill and and listen to this for one second. Then you reply and then I talk to you for more than a second. A conversation goes like this. One person says something, the other person listens. Then that person says something and the other person You don't listen. I listen to everything you say. I hear everything you say. Thank you. Right now, Trump and his administration are threatening and intimidating judges nationwide. And the story is gigantic. All judges have heard about this that the Trump administration arrested a judge simply because she did something that was against their will, not something that was illegal. She was well within her legal rights to do everything she did. These other judges now when this case goes before them are going to be like, "Shit, uh, they arrested a judge. We need to stop this now or we're all [ __ ] There is no way she loses this case. There is no way she goes to jail because right now the judicial arm of our government is the only one standing up to Trump. Congress has folded. They're all we got left is the judges. If they fold, if this woman does go to jail, it's a dictatorship. Done and done. I just feel she did not do her job. If she was a um if she did her job, then she wouldn't have escorted him out the side and said, "Come on and let him go all the way out." That's not doing a job of a judge. Yes. Well, she still believes in due process. She still believes he was an illegal illegal due process, right? Because anyone in the United States of America, whether you're a citizen or not, if you're within these borders and you're uh a crime, law doesn't apply anymore. It really does. You're wrong. Those laws have not changed. Now, Trump can go through his own due process to try and get those laws changed if he wants, but so far that has not happened. Okay, Mr. Democrat Liberal, do you know how long that would take? They would be here forever. That's not what he ran on. That's not what we voted him in on. He said, "I'll get the crime people out of here and illegals." That's what he's doing. Okay. Well, we'll get to that. You know what? Let's just let's move on to that as our next topic. I was going to save up for later in the show, but let's just move on. Uh our next topic is all these illegals that he's getting out of the country. This week, an in-depth 60 Minutes investigation discovered that 238 Venezuelan migrants that Trump uh deported to El Salvador's highsecurity terrorism confinement center, of them, approximately 75% have no criminal records in the US or any of their home countries. Despite this, they were labeled as gang members or terrorists because of the tattoos and social media posts and deported. So 75% of the people he sent to that mega prison are not criminals of any kind. Okay. Number one, where did you get that statistic from? It was 60 minutes, right? Yes. If you believe in 60 minutes, then I didn't researched it. Well, they researched it. 60 minutes. They're one-sided. Come on. They're one-sided. You don't think Newsmax is? You don't think the Trump administration is? No. No. So you're you are going to say that on one side, we'll say it on the other side. I'm not saying that on any side. These are reporters with us who researched all of this. Your problem is that you believe in 60 Minutes. Did you also believe in the Russian hoax? I bet you did. What? I bet you did. I know you did. You told me. 100% sure Vladimir Putin has comprom videos of him uh having sex with minors. That's my guess. The Russian hoax sure. They just deported a mother, her 11year-old daughter and her two-year-old daughter who were both born in Louisiana. One of them has cancer because they were Honduran, not criminals. A mother and two daughters. What? Let me ask you this, Dad. What crime do you think the two-year-old committed? She came here with her mother. No, she was born here in Louisiana. It's too bad. Her mother's an illegal and that makes her illegal. How far down gener generationally does the illegalness go? All the way down. Okay. So, that's a citizenship. Yeah, that's all of us. No. Could the mother Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hang on. Dad, you think we got We We got here legally. That's correct. Uhhuh. We all did through LSI. We came here legally. Signed the piece of paper. Smart ass. Sure. Okay. Told them where we were going, where our relatives were going to settle, what their occupation was going to be, how many children had then became citizens of the United States through these two kids. Yes. were [ __ ] born here, making them legal United States citizens. That law that law was made for slaves than their mother or where their So are my kids. I if if anyone has a child in the United States today, if they're from a different country, you're telling me those kids are not state citizens. That's correct. They need the mother or father needs to get a cit citizenship. Hang on a minute, Mom. Now, there were a lot of these people deported as well were in various stages of legally trying to get citizenship. They turned in their applications. Was that on 60 Minutes? Again, this is everywhere. It's news. Now, this is exactly what you're talking about with our ancestors coming to Ellis Island. There was a due process that they followed, right? They filled out forms. They said, "This is where I'm going to go live. This is what kind of job I'm have." Many of these people who are deported are doing the exact same thing and they're in the middle of that process when they get deported. But and they also are until they get finished, they're illegal. Our relatives came through ports that were legal. The people coming across the border, they're not they're not coming through a port where there's a person taking names. They're slapping information. They're coming up. They were coming. Well, they're coming here filling out paperwork and paying [ __ ] taxes and then getting deported before the paperwork is over. No, actually, they were getting phones from from Biden. They were getting cards from Biden that were already loaded. They were getting social security numbers. Never paid a dime. Dime on. All right, let's move on. Move on. Signal are totally uninformed. Okay, move on. Okay, Signal Gate part two. Speaking of uninformed, this week Pete Hegsth was caught sharing classified information in another group chat on the Signal app. This time around he shared operational plans for air strikes against Houthy targets in Yemen with his wife, brother, and personal attorney. The shared information encompassed specifics such as the types of aircraft and missiles to be used as well as launch and attack times. In order to use the Signal app, HGsth bypassed standard government security protocols to set up an unsecured internet connection in his office at the Pentagon, allowing him to use Signal on a personal computer, circumventing the Department of Defense's secure communication systems, almost exactly as Hillary Clinton did in 2016 with her private email server. Hexath also left his phone number publicly accessible across various platforms, including WhatsApp, Facebook, Airbnb, and even in reviews for services like plumbing and dentistry. Hexath has denied any wrongdoing and attributed the reporting of his ineptitude to disgruntled former staffers aiming to undermine the Trump administration's agenda. Trump has publicly defended Hegsth, dismissing the reports as fake news. Now, I want to play you a clip right now real quick. This is Pete Hegsth on Fox News in 2016. Are you ready? I'm ready. security professional, military, government, or otherwise, would be fired on the spot for this type of conduct and criminally prosecuted for for being so reckless with this kind of information. The fact that she wouldn't be held accountable for this, I think, blows the mind of anyone who's held our nation's secrets dear, who's had a top secret clearance like I have and others who know that even one hiccup causes a problem, let alone a a standard procedure like this. That was Hegathth talking about Hillary Clinton's email server in 2016, saying that she should be prosecuted. Uh, do you think, Dad, Hegath should be punished in the same manner he thought Hillary Clinton should be? No. Why? Because what he's doing is good for the country. In what way is bas It's not based on lies. He's cleaning up the [ __ ] Pentagon. Hang on. Hang on a minute. You're saying it's good for the country and he's cleaning up the Pentagon. How is it good for the Pentagon or cleaning up the country that he is a his personal phone number is available to be found everywhere including on WhatsApp that B he is sharing classified military strike information with his wife on a a app I can put on my phone. give him a call. In order to do that, he had to set up a system to go around the security protocols at the Pentagon. Number, whatever it takes to clean up the Pentagon, I give him 100% support. I do, too. And number one, if it was really, really bad, Trump would get rid of him. He has not. Trump's gonna get rid of Hillary Clinton. Nothing. She had 31,000 emails. Nothing. He's got the DOJ and FBI. They have his back. He's going to be just fine. But you don't think that he did anything wrong here? This is the second time he's been caught for the same blunder. No. No. If he did, Trump would say adios, amigos. He has not. Let me ask Let me ask you this, Dad. Why do you think he's still using the Signal app? Why not? He's probably drunk. Why not? because he got caught one time around literally texting strike plans to the editor-inchief of The Atlantic who was in his group chat and they didn't even know about it. The whole White House is a [ __ ] joke. Like everyone knows it. Everyone around the world just laughs at this [ __ ] They're terrified of what's going to happen. But like you read this, it's a joke. It's a [ __ ] joke. [ __ ] Obama. It's like the Kardashians running the [ __ ] country. That's what it feels like. The biggest the biggest joke no one ever told me whose cocaine that was. I do believe it was gives a [ __ ] You keep bringing up Joe Biden's Biden people. I know whose it was. Donald Trump raped women. You want to talk about that? Hang on. Hang on a minute. Mom and dad, I want to address something. I want to address something. We're talking about this Pete Hegsth thing and it's very clear that he has [ __ ] up bad two times in a row doing the exact same mistake. Hang on a minute. Hang on. Hang on. Let me say what I have to say. My problem is that you won't let me say what I'm trying to say to you. You will not accept the fact that you lost the [ __ ] election. Your goddamn democratic control over the country is over. And you What do you mean we won't accept it? We're sitting here talking about it. How are we not accepting it? No. Democratic control of this country is over and you can't accept it. I fully accept it. Just accept it. I do accept it and I'm talking to you about it. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm bringing up this thing with Heg Seth about how he's made all these blunders. He's clearly inept. Uh he he did something that was just like what Hillary Clinton did and you guys don't see it that way. He literally had to go around the Pentagon internet security that is set up for every Pentagon employee. He ignored that. had to have somebody come in and set up an outside system in his house. What's that? He's got a server in his house with 30,000 emails on it. I don't know how many [ __ ] emails are on it. We at the very least know there's two signal group chats. You're not comparing apples to apples. Okay, fine. Donald Trump that had classified files in his [ __ ] bathroom. Yes, in his shower. Listen, all of that aside, I'm talking about this Pete Hegath thing. He clearly did this thing that is a blunder and immediately talking about the Pete thing, too. Okay. You're not, though. This is what I'm getting at. You're not. Immediately, you started talking about Joe Biden and the cocaine in the White House. No. Yes, you did. Mom did. I did. No, I talked about Barack Obama. Okay, whatever. Obama. Biden. You deflect to something that is not the topic when it's Hang on a minute, Dad. Just let me say this. Please let me say this. And well, let me ask you that. Why do you get so pissed when I'm just asking you to listen to what I'm saying? Okay, now he's doing the silent treatment. All right, so I have a minute to talk. So we are talking about Pete Hegsth and you guys deflect to Biden, Obama, Hillary, Clinton, this that whatever. Unless I said, Trump would get rid of him. Okay. So I'm I'm siding with Trump. If he did something bad, if it's that bad, Trump will get him out and put someone else in. But my question is, why did you bring up the cocaine in the White House? Because I want to know who did that. But that has nothing to do with Pete Hug. Seth, I for go back and see what you guys were talking about before I said that. We were not talking about that at all. That's what I'm saying. We were talking about the corruption in the Pentagon. It was brought on by Joe Biden and Barack Obama. Okay. who are crackheads. Okay, let's uh let's move on to our simmer down. Okay, if they made a movie about your life, who would play you, Haley? Are we talking like like right now? Yeah. Like it would be a you know me, my bakery, [ __ ] like that. Or whatever. I don't know. You want to project into the future they make a movie about you when you're 90? Oh gosh. I would like to be played by Florence Pew. Okay. Who is Florence Pew? Pretty good one. She's an actress. I don't even know who that is. Maybe. Big famous actress currently making a lot of movies. Now, see, we don't know something. We're trying to ask you who that is. And you go, "What the fuck?" Yeah. She's very well known. She's pretty famous. She's very famous. We don't know her. I said that. And you know what? Not on the other side of the fence. Hang on. Mom, we never heard of her. Mom, if they made a movie about your life, who would you want to play you? I have only met one person that's kind of important and kind of pretty and it's the only one I've ever met. So, Mary Steen Burgess. Her name's Mary Steen Burgon. Um, Virgin. I said that. No, you the only person that chat allowed me to meet one time. What? That's not true. Yes, you did. I helped you become an extra in men, women, and children. Oh my god. Yeah. No. See, it goes down like this. Mom, someday when I make a movie, you will be in it. I'm going to make a movie called Bert Wondersstone. I said, I can't wait. I wrote it, but I didn't I was the director. Mom, mom, I'm so sorry. I have no control over who goes in my movies. I'm sorry. I can't do it. We watched the movie. There's Chad Pulchin in the movie. That's how it kind of went down and then I got to meet Fur and she was very nice on one of your TV shows. Okay. Um, Dad, if they made a movie about your life, who would you want to play you? Ros Perau. I knew he was going to say that. What? I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. Hannah Fanish. Yeah. Look, I didn't say it had to be an actor, I guess. Rosar's valid. If it had to be an actor though, Dad, what actor? Someone alive. Would you want to play alive? Is he? Is he? I think he is. I don't think so. I think he is. Paul Simon. Oh, he's not. He can sing, too. He's a singer. I want to see Robert Dairo play dad. Not a chance. That would never happen. Becca Bag. Okay. Wait, what actor though would you want to uh play you? I can't find this if he's all I ever did. Uh Tom Cruz. No. Yeah, that's a movie I'd see. Tom Cruz. Apparently was I think Ross Perau is What actor, Dad, would you want to play you? I can't think of one. Ross Eastwood. Clint Eastwood. Eastwood. Uh, Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson. You know who I think would be a good dad? Like for the young years of dad? Yeah. Don Johnson. Elijah Wood. No. No. Ros Perau is dead. So that was That's what I thought. [ __ ] Froto. Yeah, Froto be a good one. Or uh Okay. Who's gonna Sean Austin Sean? That'd be a good dad. Sean Rudy. Yes. Yeah. You'd be into that, right? Huh? Rudy. Joe Peshy. Joe [ __ ] around. You're right. It's Joe Pesy. Joe Peshy or Danny Devito. Not Danny Devito. I could be Danny Devito. Mom would be Mom would be Merryill Street. Yeah, I'm casting you as Merryill Street and Joe Peshy. I would prefer if they made a movie of my life. I would like to be played by Paul Giamotti. Okay. All right. Did you watch the new Black Mirror? Not yet. No. He's in one of those episodes. It's pretty good. Welcome to the necessary conversation. Okay. Well, I'm gonna change Christopher Walkan. Oh, you'd have Christopher Walkan play you? You? Oh, okay. Yeah, you're gonna be Christopher Walk. No, you're Ethan Embry. Yeah, we You're Jesse Pinkman. Okay. Oh, I like Jesse Pinkman. You look like Siri conversation. Um, after we cut you [ __ ] today after we're done, you need to do the actors we said the main ones by our faces and see. That sounds like a job for you, Mom. Um, let's move on to our next topic. Bye-bye, Elon. This week, Elon Musk announced he will significantly reduce his involvement with Doge to refocus on Tesla, which is experiencing its sharpest decline in value and sales since the company was found in 2003. Initially, Musk claimed that Doge would save the federal government $2 trillion. However, the department now claims $160 billion in savings through measures like contract cancellations and workforce reductions. But independent analysis suggests these cuts may have cost taxpayers approximately 135 billion in lost services and economic activity. The reason for Musk abandoning his promise to America is to try and salvage what value remains at his floundering car company Tesla, which reported a 71% drop in net income for Q1 of 2025, earning 409 million compared to 1.39 billion in the same quarter of 2024. Tesla's stock, which has declined 41% year-to- date, experienced a 5% uptick following Musk's announcement to step back from Doge. Musk lasted about 97 days, give or take. Not quite 100. Why is it that the people in Trump's administration don't last very long, Dad? What do you mean they don't last very long? His first administration had Michael Flynn, Rex Tillerson. Yeah. It does it doesn't take them a year to get a job. Get a job done. I knew he was going to say it only takes a few months. No, Michael Flynn didn't get a job done. He got embroiled in a huge scandal and was pushed out. Sally Yates, who was his attorney general, pushed out. Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State, pushed out. None of them got jobs done. They were like, "This is [ __ ] crazy. I got to get out of here." Huh? Jobs are done. Musk wasn't going to stay there forever. He never said that in the beginning. He said he'd stay there for as long as the job. He got it done. But we we know his stock is declining. He's he wants to get back to his business and his money. He didn't get the job done. He said they would. There you are. Thank you. There's Jesse. Yeah. Look, looks just like Chad. Very close. Uh, he's got a little bit more face than I have left. Um, stop it. He said he was going to save us $2 trillion year to date. 160 billion. That ain't quite two trillion. Well, he but he has cost us 135 billion. No, he has started the process of them getting it done. Okay. So, you still like him even though he's abandoning his promise to America. I think he's brilliant. I really do. Do you What's going on? Stop it. Nothing. What's happening? Nothing. You're having little side conversations. What is going on here? Alexa has a notification. He's not going to Alexa to get it right now. Oh gosh. Alexa, stop. Stop. He's not He's not gonna do it. Okay. Uh, Dad, do you think that there's any possible way Elon Musk can restore Tesla's value or is that company over? Oh, no. It'll be back stronger than ever. No, it's over. Okay. As soon as the soon as the tariffs kick in. Mom, do you think Tesla can be restored or do you think the company is is on the road to bankruptcy? Uh, I think it can be restored. I haven't seen any more people destroy destroying his vehicles or places because they're going to go to jail if they do. They don't have to. The the company is destroyed. They're down 71% in sales. Yeah, I know. He will bring it back. He's brilliant. He'll bring it back. How do you think he could bring it back? How do you think he can repair the damage he's done to the reputation of the company as it's associated? I don't know. I'm not that smart. Have to cut ties from Maja and rebrand as someone else. I don't even think that will do it. I think the only way to save Tesla is for him to very publicly sell the company to someone else and have nothing to do with it. Anything he touches is dead at this point. I think everybody [ __ ] hates him. Um, did you No, we don't. We think he's brilliant. Are you going to buy a Tesla? We've never said we wanted to buy an electric car. I rest my case. The people who like him are now Maja and Maja don't like electric cars. You guys like your We've never liked him from the start, though. I know. That's what I'm saying. The only people that like him don't like his product and the people that like his product don't like him. He's completely [ __ ] Nobody's going to buy those cars. We will see. We will indeed. Did you see what happened this week with the Public Square app? This is along the lines of what's going on with Musk. No. Hello. Anyone? Public Square is this app where right-wing uh companies basically can promote their companies on this app and then other maj. So that app was basically these maj people being like, "Fuck you. We can kind of self-contain our own little economy and and people who are proud to be majot all those companies and those companies are going bankrupt." Yep. So I didn't see the very opposite of what you guys used to always say. By the way, where his dad of course you know where doing his his double pee. Yeah. You guys mom always said go woke go broke. The exact opposite is now happening. Maja is going broke because they're maja. Give it time. Just give it time. I don't there are there's a lot of businesses locally owned businesses in the town that I live in. If I would post them on my social media with their names and like the [ __ ] that they do and that they're maja, if I would post their [ __ ] business and names, they would see a decline in business and potentially go under. Mhm. People are sick of this [ __ ] I agree. I think it's the other way around. But I'm giving you the exact evidence that it's not 71% down in sales from this same quarter last year. How do you think that's the opposite? Because he is brilliant. He's going to rebound and bring it back. Even large corporations like Target, there was a huge boycott in the beginning when everybody was rolling back DEI. Target is in the [ __ ] dumps. Yeah. because a large corporation because of being woke. They're not woke anymore. The opposite. When they were woke and they were selling like Pride Month t-shirts and stuff, Ma was like, "Fuck Target." It didn't really make a huge dent in it made a hu Oh, it made like 600. I forget the number. They lost money for sure. It goes beyond that because Target also had an initiative for like blackowned businesses. So they were selling products like only by blackowned businesses at one point. They when they rolled back their DEI, they stopped carrying it. So like the black community, the LGBTQ plus community, everybody stopped shopping at Target. They're [ __ ] People are sick of this [ __ ] I stopped shopping when I saw the mannequins of little boys and girls dresses and stuff like that in there, which I did. Oh my god, that's not [ __ ] real. Oh, should I take in a picture for you? I guess. Hang on a minute. I want to get back to this Elon Musk thing. You guys think he's still good, still knows what he's doing, but every brand that he has has been completely poisoned by his association with Donald Trump. His car company, I think, will be bankrupt within a year or two. I just don't see any way around it there. Anybody who wants to buy a Tesla is not buying it because of his association with it. And I don't think that ends. Like I just don't know at this point, especially with Trump in office for the next four years doing these crazy things where he's arresting judges and deporting people for no reason and all this [ __ ] I don't think anybody's buying anything Elon Musk makes. I think he has destroyed himself. That's your opinion. We will. His moves are literally turning people like [ __ ] Candace Owens. Yeah. Okay. like like we're we're hitting territory where the most conservative right-wing people in in media are [ __ ] over it. Like when you attack free speech, when you attack [ __ ] colleges, speaking of all of these people are going to blow back. Moving right along, let's go to our next topic. Trump versus colleges. This week, Trump continued his attack on higher education by abolishing student loan forgiveness. Starting May 5th, 2025, the Department of Education will resume collections on defaulted federal student loans, ending a 5-year pause initiated during the CO9 pandemic. The Treasury Offset program will allow the government to withhold federal tax refunds, up to 15% of Social Security benefits, and up to 15% of federal salaries from borrowers in default. Approximately 10 million borrowers could be affected with disproportionate impacts on women and low-income individuals. Trump also signed an executive order limiting eligibility for the public service loan forgiveness program, excluding borrowers employed by organizations involved in activities deemed illegal or disruptive, such as those related to immigration or public protests. The move has raised concerns about the politicization of loan forgiveness programs and potential violations of First Amendment rights. The colleges are fighting back, though. Harvard filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration, alleging unconstitutional overreach and retaliation for the university's refusal to comply with demands to alter diversity and inclusion policies. And over 150 university presidents, including leaders from Harvard, Princeton, and Brown signed a letter condemning the Trump administration's actions as quote unprecedented government overreach. I want to ask this generally, Dad. Do you think people should have in America or globally the right to a free education? No. Why not? Because if you want a higher education, you need to pay for it. And you need to pay for it, not somebody else because you're going to get your debt forgiven. Why do you think that is, though? Why is that system uh good in your life? What's happened? These these colleges have gotten rich off of the government. Mhm. And I'm the government. I'm the one paying these [ __ ] And now the education that kids are getting in these northeastern schools and Ivy League schools is total [ __ ] Can you imagine though? You can't even get a [ __ ] job when after you're done going to school there. Some of the most brilliant minds in our country can't [ __ ] go to college. They cannot pursue higher education because they can't afford it. These are scholars that can potentially cure cancer. Then they need to get a job, save their money up the way dad and I did or find a scholarship. If you're athletic, if you can do different things for scholarships, find scholarships, work, save your money, go to the airport, asking me to pay for it is [ __ ] stupid. Going to the military. Why do you always take everything so personally? GI because that's who's going to pay for it. That's how So you want you want people like my kids and their kids to have to struggle to struggle. Okay, your kids are not going to struggle to go to school and we know that. It's a generalization. Do not struggle to go to school and we know that. It's always a competition with you. This is a generalization. You want You want my kids' generation and their kids' generations to [ __ ] struggle to live and work and go to school? Did you struggle going through school? You're not [ __ ] answering me. You like that people You like that people have to struggle. Two of you got a free ride, so I don't want any [ __ ] What [ __ ] are we giving you? We're asking you questions about what's going on. You like we had no parents to help us. Yeah. I paid I paid every dime of you two's education. Let me every [ __ ] dime. Let me ask you, we worked. Let me ask you. Sorry. Go. You worked. We worked. We saved. We got scholarships to get our butts through school. If you have rich parents that can help you, great. If you don't, you have to work to save the money. I don't think it's a government you don't have a right to any education that the government forgives all loans and every loan that you ever got if you never worked to get it. Okay, hang on a minute. So, you don't even you don't even believe in public education then for like elementary, middle, and high school? Not anymore. public education. You always had to pay for your books and everything going through there anyway. What? And we paid property taxes for your education. In public and you pay state taxes. I know how that works. But you didn't buy a single [ __ ] book personally when we were in elementary school. Yes, we did. We go by those packets, Haley. If you were like in third grade, we had to go buy the $40 packet that had books, Kleenexes, all that in it. Hang on a second. I want to get to a kind of the base level of this question. You're the one you're the two that don't understand how this all works. I want to get three kids in school. You're right. I want to get to the base level of this conversation, which is this idea that right now, you're paying for nobody to go to school. I have a headache. According to you, I'm paying for two kids in public school. Yeah. Okay. So, what is it? Is Haley paying for these kids to go to school or not? Not college. No. But you just said you do pay for kids to go to public school. Which is it? No. Mom's talking about the packing stuff. It's a spit in the bucket. Okay. So, you didn't pay for public school then? Yes, you do. By the supplies that you have. Okay. Then Haley is paying for kids to go to public school. Yes, Haley. She might. No, I don't perceive that as paying for my kids to go to public school. I want to get to the base level of this question, which is this idea. If you could press a button tomorrow, Dad, and make all school free for everybody, would you do it? No. No. Why? Because that eliminates all the competition and it puts the burden of education on people who don't have anything to do with it. What competition should exist in education? Oh god, that that is the dumbest [ __ ] thing come out of your mouth. Yeah, answer the question. What? What competition should exist in education? The the most. What does that mean? In what way? He should the people the people who should go to school are the ones who can earn their own way and that takes uh some spunk which 90% of the people going to school now don't have [ __ ] What they're betting on is we're going to borrow a shitload of money and have the government forgive it and we're never going to have to pay it back. That's what encourages people to go to college now. Okay, let's move on to our final topic. Trump will not help Arkansas. In March, a series of devastating tornadoes struck Arkansas, resulting in over 40 fatalities and widespread destruction. Governor Sarah Huckabe Sanders, a major Trump ally, and his press secretary during his first administration, requested federal disaster relief through a major disaster declaration, but Trump denied the request. Are you guys listening at all to what I'm saying? Yeah, I know this topic. Yes, Dad. All I ask is just to pay attention, have the conversations. He wants me to take his picture. Okay, that can happen after we record the podcast. Just listen to what I'm saying because I want to ask you about this. So, he basically told Sarah Huckabe Sanders, "Go [ __ ] yourself. You're not getting disaster relief." Uh, the decision aligns with President Trump's broader initiative to reduce or eliminate the um Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA. Governor Sanders appealed the denial, emphasizing that the severity of the storms exceeded the state's capacity to respond effectively. Despite these appeals, Trump denied her again. Dad, are you surprised that Trump won't help a red state and the governor of that state was his old press secretary? No. Do you think she deserves help? I don't know how bad the damage is in this one town. The bottom line is if if it's not major catastrophe where they need government's help. Yeah. State of Arkansas should pick up the bill. Well, she's she's saying that they do. The governor of that state is saying we need federal help. That's right. Because she wants to keep it from coming out of her pocket. We all know that FEMA, he wants it's done. FEMA was mismanagement. Okay. Uh during the Biden years, it was people were embezzling money. They didn't help when natural disasters really did have happen. I can't even talk. So, he's going to dissolve it. I think there are state people that can help. Red Cross, there are charities, there are churches, there are individuals who work for him at one time doesn't give her special treatment. There's a bigger thing happening here though, which is he's right now putting on display. has zero loyalty to people who have been loyal to them their entire career. She is the daughter of Mike Huckabe who was a that doesn't have anything to do with the price of aut FEMA money. He's not giving out FEMA. He has I'm sure they had a long conversation. I bet if you talked to her on the phone, he gave her other agencies to look at and help those people like Red Cross, churches, places like this is how much she needed that money. He said no. She appealed that decision. Uhhuh. And he said no. Again, he does have the money. That didn't mean that she needed. And guess what? She's not going to be the first one. He's not going to give he FEMA is done. Stick a correct. Thank you. Biden because Donald Trump managed funds doesn't give a [ __ ] about you or anyone else. That's your opinion. Do they have they don't they don't have food. They don't have clean water. They have to rebuild an entire [ __ ] city. He doesn't give a [ __ ] And that's what was happening in North Carolina because FEMA money wasn't there and it was embezzled. So because to help individuals came in to help. So but you're blaming this on Biden. Some of it. Yes. During his administration, they all foolishly threw all the money down the toilet. And And what do you when they're You're saying they threw it down the toilet. How they never used it on the people that needed it. They embezzled it. There were embezzlements going on. Do you have Can you site that information? Can you show me where that report came from about them embezzling? I'll look it up for next next time. So, how is the answer just shutting down FEMA? How does that make sense to you? Well, what Chad's saying is Trump's not even helping his old friends. It has nothing to do with a friend. States should pick up their own bill. He's trying to illustrate that even though she was loyal to him, he has no loyalties. He doesn't give a [ __ ] That's That's what Chad's trying to show, which is stupid. I'm not trying to show anything. That's what's happening. But okay, but it has nothing to do with loyalty and friends. It all is no longer there to help and you need to look at the state organizations uh the religious organizations to help. Okay. So, hang on. You're saying natural disasters should receive no federal aid ever. I don't think it's going to. It's going to be states. But do you think that's a good idea? Sometimes there are natural disasters that are so big a state gets decimated. Remember hurricane Katrina? Remember Hurricane Katrina? Right. And remember all the embezzlement going on there and all the crazy there's corruption in every kind of government financial system. Absolutely. I'm not saying there's not. But I'm saying there are some natural disasters that are so devastating. [Music] You okay? I don't know. Well, time will tell. What's going on? I don't think it has to do with friendship like what you said. No, I'm not saying it has to wrap it up. No, it's not. We have one minute here. I'm not saying it. One minute. I'm five minutes past one. Well, your clocks are wrong. Don't know what to tell. No, they're not. Stop. All right, I guess we're wrapping it up. Thanks everybody for joining us. Dad needs to take his nap or whatever. Um I I don't know what to say at the end of this. I can't believe you guys don't see that he is turning his back on a MAGA loyalist and you don't see a problem. No, I don't see it like that at all. I mean, I know that they were friends. I know she supported him. She worked for him as she lied for him every day in front of the press for I know you think she did. We don't see it that way. We don't see it that way. We don't see it that way. All right. The biggest liar on the press was the little pygmy. Okay, thanks for joining us. We will be back next week. Maybe it'll be a little bit later next week. I have a speaking engagement at Depal University if you're in the Chicago area May 3rd and you want to see me talk about the Bachelor uh as a professional sport. I'm going to be giving a presentation there on May 3rd. Check that out. You can go to I believe it's popcultureconference.com to get tickets to it and all this kind of stuff. But thanks for joining us. If you have a question, send it in a 1 minute or shorter video or audio format to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Before we go, we must remember we are a family. I get a bunch of DMs from people saying, "Cut them off. They are lost causes. They are poison. They are making your life worse. They are evil. They are the devil. They are everything that's wrong with America. They don't deserve your time. Save your sanity. Save your mental health. stop talking to them forever. The same thing about you, okay? Do you? I don't. Um, and what I say to all those DMs is I don't see it that way. Just like you guys don't see Huckabe Sanders that way. To me, cutting people off means they are gone and you are letting them Hey, w let's wrap it up. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Dad, despite how terribly you treat me and Haley, I do love you. I don't know if there's hope for you to come back from the brink, but I do love you nonetheless, and that will never change. Mom, I think there is hope for you. I'm going to get you eventually, and I do love you. And Haley, of course, I'm very proud of everything that you're doing uh with the bakery, with your speaking out publicly about your political beliefs, etc., etc., and I love you as well. I have no speeches. Mom, I love you. Dad, I love you. Chad, I love you. We're all nothing else. We were all stunned. We didn't know what to say after that long. I love you from Chad. I love everybody. Chad, Haley, I love you. Will it look beautiful just like you, Haley, on prom night? I hope. All right. We'll see you next week. Okay. Bye.