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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to The Necessary Conversation. I'm Chad Kultgen with me is my sister, fellow lefty, hater of Trump, and my mom and my dad, not haters of Trump. Uh at least we can tell that by mom, you're wearing your beautiful Trump hat, one of them, one of several from the collection. Okay, thank you for the salute. >> I need a new one. I need the 250th anniversary one. I've got to find one. I'll find it. >> Okay. Um today we have a lot of topics to get to. We are going to be covering the endless war in Iran and the escalation of it. We're going to be covering Trump's sexual assault of a minor allegations that were released this week. Kristi Noem getting fired. Uh Trump's failing economy. God's war that some of these military leaders are telling troops, "This is God's war." And Trump making America less safe. We're going to be covering all of that today. Before we get to any of it, Mom, do you have your ditties? Well, of course the patriots of the year, um the six US service members that were killed in the conflict with Iran that came home, um in their dignified transfer that was at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware on March 7th of 2026. Um there are six of them and I'll say their names quick and I hope I don't foul up their names that bad, but I probably might and I apologize in advance. Captain Cody A. Kork from Florida, Major Jeffrey R. O'Brien, uh the home state was not widely reported [snorts] yet. I'm not for sure. Chief Warrant Officer Robert M. Marzan. Um, Sergeant First Class Nicole M. Amour from Minnesota. Sergeant First Class Noah L. Tijens from Nebraska and Sergeant DeCaine L. Hody from Iowa. And I apologize in advance if I said your names incorrect. Our sympathies are with their families. And also the other the other soldiers now that are being hurt there. That's probably not all of them, right? Like there's supposedly more. As of today there's six and >> Also, we know there's 166 girls dead. At a children's school. And a bunch of Iranian civilians >> Civilians >> in Israel that have died. >> good. We're not honoring them. Okay. >> I honored He honored Mom honored those >> six Americans. We're not honoring one single Iranian. Right. Cuz cuz babies deserve >> They don't deserve any honor. Okay. Okay. May I continue? Um Everything that was in our topics today is all bad Trump, bad Trump, bad Trump. Well, there is some good in There are some good things that we never report on. >> Well, yeah. You're you're the one that picks it. Okay. I have as I've told you about as You're hey, you're the one that picks >> hey. It's all bad Trump. Hey, as I've told you >> and your opinion >> told you As I've told you As I've told you Anytime you want to produce this show, you're more than welcome. >> it. Yeah. Or get out of it. You're more than welcome. >> any [ __ ] ultimatums. I'm that's not an ultimatum. I'm saying if you want to pick the topics and write the little blurbs about them anytime you want, you are free to do that. That's not an ultimatum. I'm not doing a topic. I was doing my ditties and I have a couple more if I could get to those. Okay. One is that the Trump administration did find 145,000 children. They were located. These were from the 300,000 that were lost during the Biden administration. And that is a fact, Jack. Um Yeah, and none of this has been really out there in the news about it. Nobody Cite your source. Uh this Um >> Newsmax? Let's see. Well No. Well, yes. Instagram and chat GPT and Quora. Yeah, fake news. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. >> Chad, can you Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Um in late 2025, DHS announced that they found 129,000 to 145,000 unaccompanied children who previously undocumented. Right. Uh Kristi Noem and Tom Homan are the ones who made this claim. Right. Uh Newsmax I'm finding it on. So that's fake news. That's fake. >> apologize that you don't believe that or whatever. That's okay. But I do. And >> I I Okay. On a second positive for Mr. Trump or whatever >> as highly misleading. That Okay. Dad does know more about this than I do financially. The Trump accounts. It's a new type of tax advancement for people that have children born between January 25 >> Under 18. and December 28. They have to be They have to have a social security number, a US citizen. They get a thousand dollars in an account that then can be matched. Uh it's kind of like a an IRA, right? Pretty much. Yeah. So, we have never reported on that and I think that's a good thing. I have several friends that said, "Yes, they're going to do this." Has anyone that you know actually received the thousand dollars? You don't You don't get it until you do your application. And then the kids will get it back >> brand new. The kids will get it back when they reach a certain So, it's not It's also not real because weren't we all supposed to get checks like cut to us from the government? Like none of it's real. Now, this is real. Well, anything coming out of your mouth not real either. Fake. Not real. Fake. It's not real. Okay, this is real and those were my two good things to start. All right. Thank you very much for your ditties, Mom. Let's move on to our listener question. If anybody What, Dad? Huh? He's not said anything, I don't think. He was like Um if anybody out there would like to send us a question, please just record it in a one-minute or shorter video format, email it to the necessary [email protected]. Here is today's question. Can you guys see that? Yeah. Here we go. No. Yes. >> Haley, Mary Lou, and Bob. My name is Jenna, for the record. I am 33 years old and I do not live with my parents and I am calling in from the state that voted blue in every county in the last presidential election and the state that ranks number one in education, Massachusetts. My question is for Mary Lou. Mary Lou, I know that Chad has been keeping a running list of items that you say that you don't align with Trump on, whether it's something that he did that you don't like or if you disagree with him. I was wondering if you'd be willing to go through and count those and for each item on that list, are you able to name something that you agree with that he's done or that you like that he's done. I guess I'm just wondering if for you the good still outweighs the bad in plain terms or if things are starting to shift the other way. Thank you. Love the pod. So there you go, Mom. The question is to you. There is a list of things that you have now said you don't like about Trump. And the question is are there enough good things to basically outweigh those bad things? I just scratched out a quick list here. War in Iran. Appearing in the Epstein files. ICE detaining children. ICE killing US citizens. Killing wild horses. Some of his crass language and inappropriate memes and social media posts. And his treatment of women reporters. Those are all things on this show that you've said you don't like. So what do you like about him that can counteract these 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 things that you've openly said you do? >> too. So put those two in the plus. Okay. >> securing the border, number three. Um the way I already I did like tariffs, number four. The way that the economy has gone up, number five. The way my gas went up for a while, number six. >> Gas prices are up 40 Gas prices are up 40 cents already. They're projecting $4 $4 gas because Yeah, exactly. Prior to Trump. >> Prior to the war, it was not, okay? >> But but it's not You can say prior to anything or after anything. You have to look at what's happening right now. Right now, because of decisions Trump has made, the economy has taken, the stock market took a giant hit, gas prices are the highest It was the highest one-week increase since like 1986 or something. You're not listening to the things I'm saying or marking them in the plus column. >> Stop talking over and let her finish. Okay. Another one. No, we're just giving you facts because what you're saying is [ __ ] So I needed to clarify that. I needed to give you the facts. today. I can't All right. All right. Mom, go ahead, please. Um another one that would be in the plus. I did I did say this on another podcast. If he doesn't like people that he's put in place in cabinet positions, all that, he should get rid of them and he did. We just saw that happen. So that's a plus. We're going to talk about that. That would be a plus, right? How many pluses have I just added? Seven? I I don't know. It doesn't have to be numerical >> She asked I know, but you don't have to >> Yes, but it doesn't mean that you have to have eight pluses to counteract the seven minuses. >> say Yeah, she she's from Massachusetts. She's 30 eight some years old, doesn't live with her parents anymore. But I bet you five bucks she did when she was 20. I still support our president. I still like a lot of things he does. Just because I disagree with him doesn't mean that I don't back him. Right now on the war, I did not want to go into Iran. But now that we have, I have to I am supporting him 100% in everything he does to keep our troops safe. That's why. But why do you Why do you flip-flop? Girl from the northeast that barely got out of her mom and dad's house. Why do you have to flip-flop and change your mind? Why do you have to Why do you have to change your mind? You didn't want a war in Iran. Now we have one. You still can hold that stance that you don't want a war in Iran and that you're [ __ ] mad about it. You don't have to support it. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Mom. Why Why can't you just hold your stance? Why do you have to give in and say, "Well, I support him." You don't have to do that. You can still say, "I don't support the war in Iran." Because I'm an American and I support what our president is doing in Iran. >> So, you >> have a brain of your own is what you're telling me. I have a very good brain. No, you don't. You can't think for yourself. If Donald Trump says jump, you say how high. Why don't you stand your ground? Why don't you stand your ground? I am standing my ground. Okay, let's get to our first topic. If anybody out there has a question, just record it again in a 1-minute or shorter video format, send it to the necessary conversation [email protected]. Our first topic is endless war. This week, Trump's needless war with Iran escalated triggering Iranian retaliation. Jesus Christ, just let him finish. Dad, you just got You just got mad and said, "Stop interrupting Mom. Let her finish." Now, can you Can you apply that to yourself? Can you apply that to How am I lying? This week, Trump's needless war with Iran Yes. Can I Can I [ __ ] impart my wisdom? Yeah. We discussed making Dad have a [ __ ] jar where if he interrupts, he has to put money in the jar. Okay. Can we start that? Dad, would you be okay with that? Well, I think that Yeah, we've crossed that line a long time ago. It's It's come to a reward system time. So, do we do gold stars or do we do money in the jar? What about you guys interrupting me and not letting me talk? Yeah, I think so. And then We could do it for everybody, and then at the end of a month At the end of a month, we can take a tally At the end of the month, we can take a tally and and we can be on teams. Me and Haley are on a team. Woo! Me and Haley are on a team and you and Dad are on a team. And whichever team has the fewest interruptions takes that money and donates it to a charity of their choice. Huh? >> There's a problem. There are four people in this podcast but me and mom only count for a third of it. I'm sorry. >> even that, a fourth of it. How? What do you mean? Yeah. Don't. What do I mean? How everything goes. Don't. You and Haley >> All right. are three-fourths and we are one-fourth. And when there are two of you and two of us, so your little jar trick doesn't mean [ __ ] Okay. >> There are four people. I'd like to do the jar. Let's move on. We let's get to a topic, please. We're already 15 minutes in. Two and two of these four Two of these four people don't get We get one-fourth of everything. Combined. >> Yeah. Combined. He's It's all about money. That's why we need to do the jar. If you know you're going to be losing that cash, you won't [ __ ] interrupt. Okay. Can we please divvy [ __ ] up. It'll come out the same way with your [ __ ] two-year-old jar thing. Okay. Our first topic is the endless war this week. Trump's needless Uh we have to get to a topic. We are 15 minutes in. Please. This week Trump's needless war with Iran escalated triggering This week Trump's needless war with Iran escalated triggering Iranian retaliation across the region affecting Gulf states, oil shipping, and international trade. Trump blamed the bombing of a girl's school on Iran and on Iranian forces this week even though reporting has found the US was responsible for the strike that killed over 100 children in celebrating of the murders the White House official social media accounts posted videos mixing real bombing footage with clips from video games like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. Trump's administration has confirmed the deaths of six US service members but abroad reports are emerging that the number is much higher. Trump has no clearly stated goal or exit plan for the war at time saying it's regime change other time saying it's destroying Iran's nuclear program other time saying it's forcing negotiations. Oil prices have skyrocketed 10 to 13% as a result of the war increasing gas prices for the average American from $2.98 per gallon to roughly $3.32. China and Russia are both helping Iran by buying their oil and supplies and Russia is now giving Iran intelligence on US military forces in the region. Iran has responded by launching missiles and drone strikes targeting US military facilities in Kuwait, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates and Qatar. There is no end in sight for this war and Trump said Iran must offer unconditional surrender before the US will stop military operations. And the cherry on top of Trump's [ __ ] sandwich, he threatened to start a war with Cuba next. Dad's [snorts] pretending to be asleep. Mom. Gas prices are up. Six Americans are dead. >> the oil supplies. Mom, gas prices are up. Six Americans are dead. The war is estimated to be costing America $1 billion a day. How is the war with Iran helping America? Okay. It has cut off supplies to Russia. Do you guys understand that? It has cut off Trump Trump lifted sanctions on them because the oil is being cut off. They immediately sold their oil as a result of the sanctions being lifted and now they are giving intelligence, military intelligence, to Iran. It has also cut off the China agenda to invite and it's inviting other countries to take control back in their freedom, too. Um he has smashed Iran's ability to make bombs now. Because he's cut off all the supplies to Russia. Russia can't help him make bombs and bring bombs in. Um that's my take. Okay. Dad? We have no this year endless war with Iran is [ __ ] It'll be over in a week or two. They don't have the mustard or the power to keep it going. >> Probably six weeks. >> think it's endless, it's not an endless war. It's it's the end of the war. So, you're going to say >> he gets done with Iran, you won't even be talking about this [ __ ] anymore. 8:26. You're saying Dad, [snorts] you're saying the war with Iran will end in two weeks. No, I Can you tell me saying Dad, you're saying the war with Iran will end in two weeks? No, I said four. >> I think six weeks. >> weeks. Put me down for six. >> He started a war based on a feeling, according to Caroline Levitt. There is really no reason for us to be over there. He's now bombing their oil reserves. It looks like [ __ ] apocalypse over there. >> close to >> He's killing children in schools. There is no reason for us to be over there. When's the last time you became mom or dad? That's who he was talking to. What? >> So, put some money in your kindergartner jar. What? What are you saying now? What do you mean? >> She just talked over us. Oh. Put some money in your [ __ ] two-year-old jar. Okay. So, Mom, what is the goal in this war with Iran? I believe it was started because Trump knew he knows more than us intelligence-wise, um you know, and he knew that they were getting close to hitting us first. He didn't want that to happen. Through intelligence with Israel, they knew that those main leaders were right there all together Yeah. And they wanted to get them in one swoop. That's how >> like totally >> sitting in the in the children's school? Is that where they were? No, they were not. And no one has reported that that was one of our bombs. >> Yeah. Yeah, they have. US intelligence has reported it. No. >> The United States did that. I have tried to look at that. I can't find it. No, no way. No way you can't find it? No. >> Reuters, New York Times, NBC News, Al Jazeera, CBS News, Politico, and The Hill. >> not saying it was a bomb from Iran? >> Yes, US investigation points to likely US responsibility in Iran school strike. No, but I mean Iran bombed it. They didn't. >> No. Trump is lying about that. There are multiple reports that have come out. All of these sources I just said to you. >> one of those sources you read to me are as left-wing as [ __ ] Okay, US military investigators >> of them. US military investigators believe it is likely that US forces were responsible for an apparent strike on an Iranian girls school that killed scores of children on Saturday. So what? We don't believe in that and you >> I don't give a [ __ ] It's not if you believe in it. That report exists. What I'm saying is >> I don't give a [ __ ] Why would I Why would Iran bomb a school for like out of the blue for no reason? Why would they do that? Does that even make logical sense to you? Yeah. They want some sympathy from dumbasses like you. Okay. Um let me ask you this question. Dad, you were a an Air Force service member during the Vietnam War. Trump dodged the draft by claiming he had bone spurs. Should a draft dodger be in charge of sending Americans to die in war? We had thousands and millions of draft dodgers. Who were not our president. Canada. And [ __ ] Ford forgave them. So don't throw it on Donald Trump. He's just one of thousands. He's our president. Yes, he came up >> You hold a president to a highest standard. >> way, didn't he? Put another Put another dollar in your [ __ ] jar. You guys literally don't care that you have the dumbest president alive. You voted for him in fact. You don't care about any of it, that he's a rapist, that he's draft he draft dodged. I care even less about the 62 children who got killed in the bombing. I don't give a >> It's over a hundred. It's over a hundred. I don't care if it's two thousand. >> Dad, why don't you care about it? Because they're Iranians and you know my stance on Iran. We will be better off in the world when it doesn't [ __ ] exist. Another genocide. >> the sooner we kill them all, the better this is. Okay. Mom, the White House is posting video game memes of people dying overlaid into games like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto when the explosion goes off, it has like scores going up on the side like a video game. Do you think that's appropriate? It wasn't the real footage. I did look this up. It said it was not the real footage from the war. It inserted but edited footage that showed graphics that made it more realistic or something. Cool. You okay with that? I don't know. I don't They're treating war like a video game. That's the effect. That is the purpose of these posts is like check it out, we're blowing [ __ ] up in Iran and we're scoring points. It's a video game. That's the intent of these things. And why it's harmful and why it's harmful Why it's harmful is so I I'll go look at like, you know, my Facebook feed or whatever and I don't know how many people I follow. I don't even know who they are, but I see in my feed men saying [ __ ] like, you know, that's our boys click click boom reposting that [ __ ] from Instagram White House official. Do you see how that's dangerous? Do you see how that incites violence? I don't think any video I don't I don't think any videos of the war should be posted, actually. They can report it, but I don't like real-time videos. I don't like that. Because it's in your face and you have to acknowledge what's happening? I just don't like seeing war. Sorry. >> to see it. Donald Trump created that. He created those dead children. He created freedom for a generation to come that they are over there in the streets saying thank you to Donald Trump, we will be free. I've seen clips where people are crying saying freedom freedom freedom. >> Yeah. Not anymore. Did you see he blew up those oil fields and now it's just it's a hellish nightmare scape of black smoke that is literally raining oil down on people in Iran. It won't last long. Let me just ask you what kind of health problems do you think are going to come out of a perpetual cloud of black oil raining down chemicals on the population? I hope it kills them all. Okay. >> know. All right. Uh let me ask you this. How many American deaths are acceptable to you, Mom? after this war in Iran? None. All right. Well, we have six so far that they're telling us about. It's I believe I don't have to say that. None. Well, your president said that it's going to happen, so get ready for it. >> okay with it. Trump is okay with Americans dying for this. Every president that has gone into a war Yes. It does happen. The the cavalierness behind his delivery, the I don't give a [ __ ] how many people die. You don't see a problem with that? I think it's great. Did you see a problem watching the um the transfer of fallen soldiers, the with him? He was there, Melania was there, J.D. Vance, J.D. Vance's wife. It's all posturing. It's all posturing. He's there to show you he cares, but then he tells you he doesn't. At least he's not looking at his watch to see what time it was. I remember that president. He's not. He's posting memes of video games. He is saying, "I don't Your sons and daughters dying for this is a [ __ ] video game to me." I don't. No, that's not how I view that. I view it as the bombs were edited. And like I said, I don't >> Once Once he decides to end this, it will be a [ __ ] video game. Okay. Let me ask you this. >> Iranians will die like it's a [ __ ] video game. You watch. Dad, China and Russia are now backing Iran. Is this the beginning >> now? They always They've been backing Iran for 40 years, you [ __ ] But we weren't we weren't in a war with them until now. So, do you >> them. We're We're in a war with China and Russia. We have been for 40 years. You know what the problem was? We had nobody in leadership with enough backbone to fight back. Okay. My question is I think you owe some money to the jar. Now, my question is um is this the beginning of World War III? No. No, it's going to be over. It's going to be over within weeks and out of there and >> World War III requires nuclear bombs and Russia and China don't have the balls to do it. Right before we got on today on TV, it said they've already picked a leader. I don't know who it was, but they said that a leader has already been picked to lead the people. Okay. Um do you think this is mom going to be another Gaza? No, I don't. Like dad said, it's going to be over quick. We're going to be out of there and they will have their freedom. And we will not >> It'll take It'll take them 4 days to wipe out the the what do you call it? The guard uh What What do they call it? Iranian guard. 700,000 soldiers, they'll shoot them all dead, then the party's over. I'll tell you why this isn't another Gaza. Israel's involved. Exactly. I agree. I think they're not going to stop until there is mass casualties all over that country and they've they won't I mean, why would they bomb the oil fields? >> 700,000 of them. They're going to have 700,000 casualties. And it's going to take us It's going to take us about 4 days to do it. They bombed the oil so Russia can't have it. Okay. That's what you think it is? It has nothing to do with with resources. They want to level that entire country and build [ __ ] that's going to make them money. It's all about money. Let's kill them. They're not there to save the Iranian people like the United Donald Trump doesn't care about any of them. Like this liberation of the people, it's a facade. They want to level this place They've been murdering and turn it into the next Dubai. Do you realize They've been murdering us for 40 years. Donald Trump is going to give kickbacks to his kids who are going to then build apartments and luxury buildings and they're going to turn Iran into this oasis. How do you not see that? They're doing it in Gaza. This is just the next step. Not only, you know, Russia also got their oil from Venezuela, which has now been wiped out. But, Russia also got weapons from Iran. So, that's been wiped out. You don't think that's a little plan in there? I think Russia and China just see this as an opportunity to align forces and take us out. So, I'm just waiting for that to happen. Yeah. [ __ ] All right, let's move on to our next topic. Trump sexual assault of a minor allegations. This week, the DOJ finally released several previously withheld FBI interview summaries connected to Trump and Epstein. He asked if I had information on this. I said, yes, a little bit. >> Okay. Dad, I send a document to everybody the night before we do this. >> what I know what to say about this, but this is Mom's question. Okay. The files include uh four interviews conducted by the FBI in 2019 with a woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her when she was a minor in the 1980s. The woman said Jeffrey Epstein introduced her to Trump when she was between 13 and 15 years old. She claimed Trump made sexual comments to her, ordered other people to leave the room, attempted to force her to perform oral sex on him. She then bit him while fighting him off, after which he allegedly struck her. Investigators reportedly uh considered the woman credible enough to interview multiple times. Pam Bondi and the DOJ say the documents were not intentionally withheld, but misclassified during the initial release. Um first of all, I just want to say that's a lie from Pam Bondi. They never planned on releasing this. Then reporters found out about it, and it became big enough that they had to. That is why it was released. Mom, do you think this woman was telling the truth? I don't know the woman. Trump has denied the accusations. We know this. Yeah. Um it was back when she was 13 years old in 1994. It was at parties in New York. I did read into all of that. Before it ever went to trial, um there was no jury evaluation of it. There was no judge. They never went to court because the evidence was not brought forward. No, the evidence is brought forward. It's her testimony. They Why do you think if the FBI didn't think she was credible, why would they interview her four times? Why did it never go to court then? That's the part I don't understand. Probably for the same reason that the other rape allegation against Trump from a child didn't go to court. He threatened her. Could we have her name, her legal name? It was Jane Doe, Katie Johnson. Is that the real name? Could she come forward? >> Katie Johnson is another one. That's That's the one that got threatened and so took the lawsuit back. >> Why is it so hard for you to believe them? Cuz he's not a pedophile. I'm not asking you. I'm asking Mom. I don't believe he is. Okay. Mom, let me just give you a list of some things. We now have got Trump in thousands of Epstein files. He's bragged publicly about sexually assaulting women on tape. He's found guilty of sexual assault in a civil case. He's convicted of 20 or sorry, 34 felonies related to covering up a sexual relationship he had with Stormy Daniels. Countless pictures and videos of Trump with Epstein partying with young women. Trump openly bragging about barging into dressing rooms of underage girls when he owned the Miss USA pageant. Your own daughter has told you Trump sexually harassed her and all of her college classmates when they visited Trump Tower. And now a credible witness interviewed by the FBI four times based on her allegations that Trump sexually assaulted her as a child. What else do you need? For that witness to come forward and it go to trial. Why? Could Haley come forward, too? What do you mean? She has told you on this show the account of that incident. >> trial? Go to the [ __ ] law. Get you a lawyer. Get you some FBI agents and go to go to work. Let's see what you Let's see what you can do, big mouth. Why are you like this? Why am I like what? Like neither of you support victims. And you're And you're mocking me. >> None of you victims can prove you were a victim. That's why. I I mean, it's staggering to me that so much of this stuff that I just read, that giant list. If like imagine if that list was against Obama. You'd be saying kill him. Right? Yes. I've read things about Dad. But now Put him in jail. Get your [ __ ] ass into a courtroom and prove it. >> Prove it, god damn it. We know that Dad is vile. We know that he has no morality left in his body. But Mom, this is where like this is why this is why I do the pod because I think at some point it's going to click for you. I do believe, Haley, what you said, that whatever happened to you in the elevator with the girls, right? But why does it Why does it have to be personal? Why can't you believe the 13-year-old that was assaulted by Donald Trump? Why would someone make that up? Allegations to this point. Allegations to this point. >> like you guys are saying get in court. Trump controls all of that. That would require the DOJ to bring charges against him. >> it. He doesn't. That's [ __ ] >> Put him through the wringer how many times now and brought him to court all these times? >> And he lost. He's been found He doesn't control the courts. He does. He was found guilty. >> And in the Northeast, he doesn't have a leg to stand on with those charges. >> it federally. Listen. Listen. He was found guilty of 34 felonies in a court. He did not serve a day in jail because he became president. Okay, what court does it have to be in so that you'll accept it? Do you see how like you just go down the list? Democratic appointed judges. Okay, so you say take him to court, find him guilty, okay? He's been found guilty of 34 felony count. Well, that was in New York, that doesn't count. You see how you guys every time you say this has to happen, it happens, and then you say, "Well, that doesn't count, that one." You You have no standard by which you can hold him accountable. This is whatever the [ __ ] that is was totally made up [ __ ] by by that fat woman. A jury found him guilty. Yeah, right. Why do you believe [laughter] So, there are victims that have come forward and said that they were assaulted by other other people that they that it was all kind of intertwined with Epstein, and you believe them. But, why don't you believe the ones who say they were assaulted Donald Trump? I do not know. I do not know what to believe anymore, I'll be honest. I don't know what to believe. Okay, that's a step in the right direction at least. It is hard for you to break free from what I call the cult because you blindly kind of believe anything about Donald Trump that's positive, but then you throw away everything that's negative. You have to start You have to start focusing on the negative and ask yourself why. Why is there so much information that exists against Donald Trump and why he's a bad person? Like, ask yourself why. On one of the cases that E. Jean Carroll, her name, isn't that her name, the civil case? Yeah. When it said um it said there was a 50% 50% that he could have just brushed up against her, and that was what they believed. It was not penetration, it was not rape. None of that. >> found him guilty. Brushing up against her or what? >> no, of sexually assaulting her. A jury found him guilty of that. >> assault. That was the word. Yeah. But her interpretate her interpretation of that But do you see how you're having to go into these things of like, well, I know they found him guilty, but her interpretation and maybe it was this >> things where some broad who doesn't know her ass from dog [ __ ] accused him of something in a court in New York City totally run by uh Democrats and Letitia James found him guilty and now you think that's the end of the world and that that is concrete evidence. That ain't [ __ ] >> It's just that there's this idea that like you've literally heard him say that he grabs women by the genitals. >> No, he said he could. You he said he does. >> I don't even wait. I just grab them by the blank. And then and then you have evidence you have that on record. You hear him saying that. You hear him on Howard Stern talking sexually about his own daughter. Yeah, I mean there are there are audio clips >> Jesus lies like a little maggot. >> No, that's true. >> Those are all true. That's all true. >> clips in mass where he is hypersexualizing not only women but his own daughter. Here's Okay. >> Why is it hard for you to believe that he sexually assaults women? Here's my question. No, answer Haley's question first. What was it? Why is it hard for you to believe given all of that information, why is it hard for you to believe that he could sexually assault someone? I guess I have to experience. We've talked about this. I got to see it. I've got to >> That's absurd. But you are you are seeing it. That's what I'm saying. All that stuff I read to you, this list of evidence, is getting so insanely big. Some of the Some of the presidents in the past, oh my gosh, all the sexual things they did. We're not talking about them. We're talking about the current president. >> them for a minute. Did that make them bad presidents? Yes. Yes, it makes them terrible people, which makes you a bad president. So Kennedy was a piece of [ __ ] according to you two, right? I don't I don't I'm not >> Who did he sexually assault? Yeah, I don't sympathize for politicians. I don't I don't apologize for women. He got assassinated two weeks before the FBI was going to charge him with rape. Like a whole bunch of rapes. He wasn't president. >> And I'm not saying that's right. I'm not saying that's right. I'm saying right now at this point in time, you have to prove more to me. >> But but that's another kind of >> him as president of the United States. That's another defensive tactic. Okay. I just can't believe these allegations right now. So one of the your tactic is trying to get Mom to believe [ __ ] No, we're not trying to get her to believe anything. We're simply presenting evidence and asking her questions. But hang on a minute. Hang Okay. Dad, hang on. Dad, hang on. $5 in the drawer. The thing that I >> $5 in the jar. I'm not playing your stupid kindergarten games. >> Okay. Okay. Jesus Christ. The thing I'm I'm >> Exactly. I'm talking about is anytime we >> Jesus Christ you don't believe in. So quit talking. >> Anytime Anytime we bring up something about Trump, you either try to invalidate it, you say it's not real, or you're kind of you're Okay, your fall back defensive tactic You're Hey, quiet, piggy. Your your fall back defensive tactic is to then come out of your mouth. Dad, please. Just let me [ __ ] say this. Your fallback defensive tactic is to say, "Well, what about this guy? And what about this guy? And what about this guy?" So, anytime we're talking about Trump and it gets to a point where you can't defend, you then flip it out to Obama, Biden, Martin Luther King, JFK. But, you're not understanding. Let's say all these other people Okay. Jesus [ __ ] Christ. Dude, you you have to [ __ ] chill so we can have a conversation. I don't have to. Please. When we're talking about Trump, you try to deflect out to other people. And let's say that you're right about all those other people. It doesn't matter what the other presidents did. Trump is innocent. Dad, you have to [ __ ] have at least a little respect for us in this conversation to actually let us speak. No, I don't. Why? Let me ask you this question, Dad. This has nothing to do with politics. >> have no respect? Hang on. >> Because the [ __ ] each of you out here is total baloney and that makes me lose any respect for you at all. Why, Dad, are you such an angry person? I'm not angry. Excuse me? I'm not angry. I can I can raise my voice and be pissed off at the [ __ ] coming out of your mouth. In In this podcast alone, Okay. Dad, in this podcast alone, you have supported the idea of genocide in Iran. In two In two places. Okay. >> Gaza and Iran. All right. You have You have interrupted us more than anybody uh more than anybody in this podcast. Yes. Okay. You have called You have called us Okay. You have called both of your children names in this podcast. And you both deserve it. How is that not an expression of anger all of these things I've said? >> anger, it's fact. Okay. Let's move on. We've gotten heated up. Let's simmer down. Uh oh [ __ ] what was the simmer down? Mom, I sent it to you, but I don't have it in this document. Um what animated movies or other movies are your favorites in TV? >> What are your favorite animated movies or TV shows, Haley? Um I mean I'm going to have to go like anime route. I mean, I love everything. >> Yeah. Um Miyazaki, but my favorite is Spirited Away. I also love Attack on Titan. And then TV shows, I actually watch a lot of cartoons, but >> Uh-huh. nostalgia purposes, Jem and the Holograms, you'll never beat it for me. Um >> Miraculous Ladybug City of Lights. >> [laughter] >> Um yeah, so Jem and the Holograms, you will never beat that for me, but like present day, my children and I love to watch uh Adventure Time, Regular Show, Steven Universe. Like those are on in the house constantly. Yeah. Mom, favorite animated movie or TV show? I don't watch animated. Um Oh gosh, like the old ones. I like the old Westerns that Audie Murphy was in. I like that. >> [laughter] >> That's not animated. I said I don't have any animated, and then I said I like the old TV shows. I like what Audie Murphy was in, the old Westerns, Gunsmoke. The ones that I have watched in the Not even like a not even like a old like a Fantasia? I like a TV series that was called Bad Judge. Um Okay. I like right now I'm watching, I think it's on Netflix, The Gray House. I'm on number two. Okay. >> And it's it's a historical about um Virginia seceding and I like it. And I cried at episode number two. All right. Dad, favorite animated TV show or movie? Huh? >> watch any animated movies and Fraser. All right. Mine is probably recently Chainsaw Man Reze Arc is one of the greatest movie-going experiences I've ever had. Um I like Invincible a lot. That's on Amazon right now. All the anime you mentioned I like. My favorite anime of all time, Soul Eater. Check it out if you haven't seen it. Now let's get back into this. Let's talk about next uh Trump's failing economy. What? Oh, I thought we're going on Kristi Noem. >> Yeah, we'll do Kristi Noem, I guess. It's big news this week. Trump fired Kristi Noem as Secretary of Homeland Security. One of the biggest issues leading to her removal was a $220 million taxpayer-funded advertising campaign about immigration enforcement that she claimed Trump approved when she was testifying before Congress. Trump, however, claimed he did not sign off on the campaign and threw a temper tantrum when he found out what she said. In the same hearing, Noem was questioned about how the advertising money was awarded to a company that had only been incorporated eight days before the contract was issued, leading most people to believe that this was part of a larger embezzlement scam run by Noem. Her mishandling of the ICE murders that took place in Minneapolis last month and suspicions of her alleged sexual relationship with Corey Lewandowski likely contributed to her firing as well. Trump is replacing her with Republican Senator from Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullin, a former MMA fighter who inherited his father's plumbing business. He supports mass deportations. He has challenged a labor leader to a physical fight during a Senate meeting. And he is a staunch supporter of Trump. This is the first cabinet-level firing of Trump's current term. Mom, why was Kirstjen Nielsen fired? Um I think there was great controversy about um the content of those ads. They were insane. Dad and I saw a couple. We're going, "What the heck is that?" Where the money came from to pay for it. And then she lied and said Trump did approve them when in fact he said, "No, I did not." I think she failed miserably this last week when she was questioned. Um it just didn't go over well. I have always said to you if he puts someone in the cabinet or whatever like this and they don't do well that he should replace them and he did. So, that's a plus for Trump. Uh and then she would not commit whether she had the affair or not and called that theatrics or whatever. Um and then how whoever made those commercials, how those people got paid. Some of those people were friends of hers apparently. Yeah, not good. All right. Dad, why do you think she was fired? Because she did something that she didn't have approval to do and it cost $220 million and he said, "That's enough of that. You're out of here." And he even replaced her with somebody who's probably going to do a better job at DHS. >> I don't think he liked that affair either and she was like it was right there in her face. >> She deserved to go cuz she was playing by a different set of rules. I do think she started out well though. I do think she started out well. >> border. But now she got out of line and that's what happens when you get out of line with Trump. Um let me ask you, Mom, how do you >> bricks. Mhm. How do you think this will affect DHS? I think it'll be just as good or better. I think Mark Meadows will do a good job. Yeah, he'll >> That fat fellow [ __ ] wanted to fight him. That was funny. No, he wanted to fight the other guy. He tried to start the fight. Yeah, he he said, "You stand up and the fat guy goes, "You stand up." And that fat son of a [ __ ] wouldn't ever come out from behind the desk. And you don't see a problem with the new head of DHS trying to start physical MMA fights with >> know. I think it's great. >> other government officials? You don't think that's a problem? >> The fact is my He's my He's my uh what do you call it? of the week. The week He's my patron of the week. He's like a He didn't even graduate from college. He flunked out. There's nothing wrong with not graduating from college, honey. >> He's the head of DHS. Can you name me four people who graduated from college that have a lower IQ than 50? Nothing wrong. >> if you're going to be the head of DHS, you should definitely have a [ __ ] college degree. I disagree. >> He has an associate. He has 2 years of college. He took over and he quit because he took over his dad's company when his dad started getting sick. >> got that He got that daddy plumbing money and then he wasn't he caught for insider trading as well? No, his father got ill. He took over the company. He has other companies, too. He's made money through other companies. Yeah. >> And that really That That's something that you would say that about education. You know, education. Would Would you vote in a president without a college education? I mean, I guess we did, didn't we? Does he have one? Trump? >> go on what Does he have one? Yeah. Trump? Yes, he has a college education. Could have fooled me. Did he go to Wharton? He's the worst president I've ever seen. Yeah, he went to a very good school. He paid his way through school. We all know he's not that smart. Um Let me move on. We only have 10 minutes. I want to get to this last topic. >> Can I say one more thing? >> You sure. Go ahead. We have 3 minutes. He then appointed her to uh it was called the What was it called? The Western Hemisphere? What did he call it? The Shield of America's lady? he >> her to some meaningless title. >> Western Americas, but I did read something that maybe he knows what he's doing. Maybe he knows something's going on down there and we need her help. Okay, I don't think that's the case. >> No, not at all. Okay. Let's move on to our final topic. Uh Trump making America less safe. This week it was reported that Trump blocked the release of a joint intelligence bulletin prepared by the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Counterterrorism Center warning state and local law enforcement agencies across the United States about escalating domestic threats linked to the war with Iran. According to reporting about the document, the assessment warned of several potential threats, Iranian government or proxy attacks targeting US officials or facilities, possible attacks on Jewish or Israeli institutions in the US, threats against Iranian dissidents living in America, and the possibility that radicalized individuals could use war as justification for violence. The report included specific scenarios and guidelines for local police on how to respond to potential attacks. The White House blocked the release of this report, which claims that it was poorly written. Officials warned that delaying the document would slow the flow of threat information to local police departments, making Americans less safe. Mom, why do you think Trump blocked the release of a report that terrorist threats are on the rise in the United States? Oh, we all kind of know that anyway, but I didn't read where that was blocked. >> Nobody's threatened anything that from the those little cells. Well, >> There's no credible evidence that they've threatened anything. >> Yes, there is. There was an airplane, I forget that I was looking it up. I was looking it up before. >> missing the point. What? >> These three intelligence agencies, once I can read them for you again if you want, the FBI, DHS, and the National Counterterrorism Center put together this report. And they said we need to send this to all local and state law enforcement so that we are prepared for an escalated >> immigrants are going to take action and we got to stop it. They wanted to send this to these agencies to say this is going to make Americans safer if you have this information so that in case a threat does appear, you will know how to deal with it. Right. The White House said, "Don't send that memo. We're blocking it." Why did they block it? You tell me. I have no idea. Because Trump doesn't want the appearance of our country to be that terrorism's on the rise as a result of what he's doing. You're interjecting opinion. I think we all know it is. He put us in the [ __ ] and he doesn't want us to see it. No, Joe Biden put us in the [ __ ] and he's trying to protect >> Joe Biden didn't start a war with Iran. Joe Biden left our border wide open. and let in like 30 million idiots. More more than that. >> Dad, do you think blocking this report that these three intelligence agencies wanted to send to local law enforcement, do you think blocking it makes Americans safer? Yes, I do. How? Because now the average citizen in these big cities won't be afraid to walk out and have a cigarette on the sidewalk because now that's okay. Okay. Uh let's see if we can squeeze one more in here. God's War. No, we can't. Yes, we can. We started late cuz you guys were messing with the camera. But Dad, you're free to leave at any time. This next topic is called God's War. This week reports emerged that US military commanders told troops the war with Iran was part of "God's divine plan" and that Trump has been "anointed by Jesus" to start the war. Some troops were allegedly told the war could help bring about "Armageddon" or the return of Jesus. Complaints from troops were collected by Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy organization that investigates religious coercion in the military. The group said it received complaints from more than 50 military installations. Mom, do you think Trump is anointed by Jesus to start a war with Iran? No. Dad, do you think Trump is anointed by Jesus to start a war with Iran? I left the iPod or podcast. What? >> I said I could leave it. I've left it. You're sitting right there. I can see you. You haven't left. Give your answer. I'm not going to talk anymore. Oh my gosh. Okay. >> I have a different time I have a different time than you do than you. You just said you weren't going to talk anymore and then you talked. >> [laughter] >> I'm telling you why. I'm answering your damn question. You're not answering it. I'm curious too. Do you think that Trump is anointed by Jesus to start war with Iran? Nobody's anointed. Isn't it crazy that He's doing He's going to make the entire world safer by eliminating that [ __ ] country. Isn't it crazy that like part of his claim for bombing Iran was to liberate their people including from religious persecution and here we are indoctrinating our own military? No. Mom, do you think this war is part of God's divine plan? Everything is every day is God's plan. Okay. Dad, do you think it's part of God's divine plan? Now he's silent treatment. Okay. Um Mom, do you think religious rhetoric has a place in our military? I think God does. No, the answer's no. Okay. >> think God likes guns and killing? You think God killed part of God's divine plan was to kill over 100 children in a school? Chad, why would you say it like that? You just said it's part of God's plan. Every day is God's plan. >> dropped the Red Sea on the Egyptians. Every day is God's plan. >> than 60 people. See, people in the military are allowed to believe whatever they want religiously, but as an organization, it is not a religion. There is no religion associated with our [ __ ] military. See how that could be dangerous? It's okay to pray and be in the military. It's okay to pray before you go to war. >> your own, of course. On your own, but collectively, no. That's not okay. >> all go into war. It's okay to pray before a football game. It's okay to pray before a basketball game. >> It's not. That's where you're wrong. Okay. I had to pray before every baseball game I ever played in high school. >> And I refused. That's why I was That's why I was the black [laughter] sheep. I said, "Fuck you." Going to the dugout. [ __ ] you. >> Okay, and did that really not Did that Did that hurt you in any way? No. >> To pray? No. >> There's a separation of church and state. Like that's a real thing. So, to make children on a [ __ ] ball field sit around in a circle and pray to a Jesus that you don't believe in, that's unconstitutional. Mom, would you be okay with soldiers praying to Allah before going into battle? No, that's not United States. Sure it is. There's lots of Muslims in the United States. The United States is not Christian. That's a lot of the problem with the United States. Too many [ __ ] Muslims. Do you think there are any Muslims in the United States military? Yeah. >> Yes, probably. Yes. Okay. And but they should have to pray pray to Jesus? That's where they get their money. Okay. But I want to squeeze in this last topic quickly. Mom, Dad, you can check out. It's Trump's failing economy. This week the US Labor Department reported the economy lost 92,000 jobs in February, which surprised economists who had expected job growth instead of a weakening labor economy. Trump's tariffs were cited as a significant influencing factor in much of the job loss last month. The report combined with the war in Iran that is growing out of control by the day triggered a Nope, don't do that. Don't do that, Mom. >> I asked him not to. Now that fouls up the whole podcast. You can't move the goddamn camera and you do it every week. Uh the report combined with the war in Iran that is growing out of control by the day triggered a decline in financial markets as well. Trump maintained that this is temporary and that he inherited a bad economy from Biden. Mom, do you think Trump had anything to do with why the United States lost 92,000 jobs last month? Probably, yes. Okay. Does it worry you at all that Trump is waging war abroad while people at home are losing their jobs? No, because once that war is over, jobs are going to come back. It'll spring back. How? How will Trump fix that? I have no idea. It will be fixed. Why are you confident in that? You don't know how. We also don't know when the end of the war is going to be. 5 to 6 weeks. Now he's talking. Now he has to be back on camera. I know. >> back on camera. >> God damn it. >> move the [ __ ] camera. I didn't move it. So there's We don't know when the end of the war is. There is no end in sight. 5 to 6 weeks. No, you Mom, you said 6 weeks. Dad said 4. So we are going to clock that and if you're wrong, will you admit that you're wrong? Yes, 6 weeks from now. Let me ask you this. Dad, 92,000 jobs evaporated last month. Do you think we still have a strong economy under Trump? Yes. We're switching from government jobs to private jobs. Okay. >> And it's easy it's easy to pick up the government jobs cuz they they're already gone. And he's going to he's going to reduce the government by a lot more. So you're going to lose probably another million jobs. >> Yeah. And they come up on the they'll come in on the private sector once these tariffs start to act I was thinking about this the other day. The reason that they Yeah, you don't understand that, Chad. It's over your head. The reason Listen, the reason that they don't understand what's happening >> They have no brain. Yeah. in the economy is that they have no like real world life experience. So, like I work with people that this directly affects where like they have to bunk up with like two and three roommates. Like nobody can afford rent. Like I'm a business owner. So, like my grocery bills are significantly [ __ ] growing from all of this going on. They live in this bubble where the only people they interact with are like they own horse centers, you know. Like they don't see everyday people going through like these everyday struggles. And they know like their grocery bills only go gone up by $5 or whatever, but it's just like they kind of live in this bubble. And you do. You guys don't interact with a ton of people. So, I don't think that you see what's going on economically with everyone else in the world. Is that why >> what is what is happening is detrimental to the growth of the United States. I don't even want to respond. >> We're all drowning out here. And And you guys tariffs are good and gas is down, but it's just simply not true. And that's why when I see people in need, I give them things and I go to Costco and buy clothes and give them stuff. And I see that they have blisters on their feet from walking over and trying to come into the United States the correct way. But yeah, we live in our little bubble. What? What's going on now? Now you're mad about something? >> I'm talking about tariffs and like the economy. You're talking about immigration. >> we live in a little bubble and we don't even see people other than going to the bar and back. In terms of how this economic downturn is affecting people. Yeah, we've seen we've seen it first hand. One of my friends that's under 30 bought her first house, was able to save up, and the interest rate was at a time when she could buy her first house. Okay. Uh-huh. How she said groceries are fine, she just has to kind of walk >> two we have two illegal immigrants who we see on a Stop. >> weekly to monthly basis. Okay. I don't understand what any of this has to do with the question at hand. There's nothing wrong with them, they're fine. They're doing good. And so how does this relate to 92,000 jobs being lost in February? It's what I told you. Those are all government jobs and they haven't replaced yet. When the tariffs kick in and 15% which is starting now, you give it a month or two, those will all be replaced with domestic jobs because of all the money flowing into the United States and companies are now going to build their factories and their departments in the United States because if they don't, they're going to be subject to those tariffs. Once that starts kicking in, you're going to see humongous growth in the private sector and it will dwarf what we're doing to the We need to shrink the government and that's exactly what he's doing. But we're over a year into Trump's presidency. No, it doesn't matter. Hasn't had the tariffs on for a year. >> he Yes, he has had tariffs since he came in. That was one of the first things he did. >> They haven't even kicked in yet. The only companies setting up shop in the United States are giant [ __ ] AI centers and Tesla. >> they're going to hire people. All right. Well, what an episode this has been. That is the end of it. Thank you all for joining us. Haley, despite everything that is happening here, I love you. Thank you for doing this. I know it's it's sometimes a hard thing to do. Mom, I don't know what you're looking at. See how long the tariffs have been on. [ __ ] it. Here, I can Google it for you. Jesus [laughter] Christ. >> I'm over it. Huh? The 15% We're talking about the 15% tariff. It hasn't been on long. >> But is it getting overwhelming because like you're starting to understand that some of this is really bad? Trump's Oh, this was 2018. Let's see. Like some of the [ __ ] happening is really bad. War is always bad. It's not just war. His first tariff first major tariffs on his second term were initiated on February 1st, 2025. Executing orders for not 15, 25% tariffs on most goods from Canada and Mexico. So >> February. So that's been a year. >> February of last year. Okay, smarty. That's from Canada and Mexico. >> I shouldn't have said I was going to >> Which was going to start which was going to start the 15% tariff that's going to go to Russia and China. And it was 25% hasn't been in effect very long at all. >> Okay. I shouldn't >> Uh Liberation Day, April 2nd, 2025, announced a 10% tariff on all US imports from every country. >> Okay, so it has not been a year. It's okay. Sorry. 11 months and 20 whatever days. >> Like I'm I am telling you my personal experience as a small business owner. I can cite cocoa, for example. Two, three years ago, I used to get a whole case of cocoa for like $45, $50. It is now $160. >> All right. Now, let me ask you a question. You say you spend a ton more money for groceries. Right? Mhm. Right. And the tariffs are killing your business. Now, what's your business done in the last year? Tariffs >> once is the year before. Tariffs are killing my budget, so I've had to raise my prices. You should know that as someone who's an expert in economics. Dad's right. >> need Okay. >> You don't know what I don't understand. You're making more money than Jesus with tariffs in place. Okay. Thank you, Chad. I love you. Thank you, Lily. [snorts] I love you. Thank you, Bob. I love you. Okay. I love everybody. Hang on. I do sincerely love you, Mom and Dad, and I thank you for doing this. I know these are not easy conversations. I know today >> This was a terrible one. I can't keep doing this. Well, I don't know what is is wrong with you, Dad. You seem to be more hostile uh with every progressing week. >> Because you come up with more insane [ __ ] week in and week out. >> you mean? I >> You have You have the inability You have the inability to even listen to or hear Chad and I. That's right. Let's try next time, like we did one time long ago. I'll do two topics, you do two topics. Or don't keep bringing on lefties. Get us some MAGA people on here. Or let me do two MAGA topics, you do two liberal topics. >> have had At this point, we have had I believe two liberal guests. >> No. And two MAGA. You brought on your friend, Jewels, who was MAGA. And the first guest we ever had was the head of the Republican uh Florida Republican Party. He was MAGA. So, let's get another MAGA. So, we're even on that. You said zero, Dad. You're completely wrong. No. Yes. >> Jules was on. Our first guest was the head of the Florida Republican Party. Our second guest was your friend, who you asked to bring on the show. That was your by your request. And how many lefties have we had? Two. [ __ ] We've had >> Parker Get a job and we had Jessica Anderson. You had the other guy. He was like a representative from Oh, Gil Cisneros. Technically a Democrat. Yeah, he So, okay. So, you tell me. Who do you want to We had three on our last stream where all girls that were from the northeast. He's talking about the beer question. Move on. Let's go. I got to go. He's talking about If you guys have somebody if you guys have somebody a MAGA person you want to come on here get them on here or send me an email contact information, whatever. I'll handle it. We can have whoever you want, but I want them to be I told you >> somebody who's like you know, has a They're either political commentators or they are in politics. the conspiracy theorist that knows a lot about conspiracies. I would love to have him. I don't know who that is, but send me the information. >> I will. Alex Jones, like No. >> about the old man? No. Just Just email it to me. Okay. He's on here right now. >> Email it to me later. I just want you to know that we both Haley and I do love you. That's why we do this podcast. And I am am sad and sorry, Dad, that you're like so angry all the time about all this [ __ ] to the point that you can't even have a conversation about it. And I I would like that to change if possible so that you can actually hear what we're saying. Dad, are you with us? I'm looking at something. It's the guy >> Okay. The guy is called Jesse on fire. And he's really deep into like right now he's doing Candace Owens stuff. He's doing all kinds of stuff that he knows a lot about Charlie Kirk conspiracies. I could probably talk to him all day about that. Send me his information. I'll try to get a hold of him. All right. Thank you everybody for joining us. I will be doing a live tonight at 6:00 p.m. PST on our YouTube channel. Maybe one or more of people here today with us will join me, maybe not. I'm not positive about that, but I will at least be there. Please join us for that, and thank you everybody for joining us for this weird episode. This is not good. This is not good.