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In the aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule, now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. If I sit right here, you can't see you there. Stop there. Got it. I said it. Don't touch it. It's great. Looks great. Looking good. Welcome to Necessary Conversation. I'm Chad Colchin. With me is my sister, fellow lefty, and my two parents, both deep in the MAGA QAnon conspiracy pit of their own. This is how they live their lives. We are going to have conversations about politics today, but we are also going to have conversations about what is today. It's Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. Happy Mother's Day, Haley. You're also a mother. Happy Mother's Day, Dad. Hello. Is he with us? I'm not your mother. I'm not your mother. No. No. But you're married to my mother. Okay. Thank you for that. Um, we are going to be talking about Mother's Day during our simmer down. Mom, do you have any diddies? I always have a diddy. This is kind of a different kind of diddy, though. I'm tired of starting the podcast off mean and ugly on politics. So, um, some nights when I stay up late or even early, I'll get on TikTok and I'm always searching to see if Michael Jackson is still alive. So, I look at those clips. Now, you know, I don't believe that, but I'm still hoping. Anyway, I'm kind of late to this little party that I found on Tik Tok, but oh my god, Nenah Pool. Haley, have you ever heard this lady's name? I don't think so. Chad, have you? No. We know Dad hasn't. Okay. She's an influencer on a lot of different beauty hacks. Dupes. They're dupes. She's called the dupinary uh goddess. Uh people call her um oh god I wrote in in in uh Nina Pool we trust. Anyway, she is a really cool influencer. Like she will take a wrinkle cream that's $100 an ounce. She reads the back of the ingredients. Then she goes and finds the exact same thing for like at the dollar store for $150. I'm not kidding you. one of her hacks that I have tried. Just a minute. I I've got to pick something up. Don't yell at me. Got it. This is one of her hacks that I did try. Whoops. There we go. This is baby butt cream dust tint. And this is the Haley, are you googling right now? Mhm. This is the the maximum strength paste that you can buy. Dust tint. Okay. So, at night when you're going to bed, you put this all over your face. You look like a white faced clown for the night. Who cares? When you wake up in the morning, your face is as smooth as a baby's butt with no red in it. And the lines and wrinkles have disappeared. I couldn't believe. You're putting [ __ ] on your face. Yes. And it it works. Oh my lord. It works. Now, the sad there's there's a couple more I've tried that are crazy good, but I'm now I'm I'm sad because people have been giving her heck on uh Tik Tok. She has like over a million hits on everything that she puts out there. But people are they're trolling her and they're shaming her because she's autistic. She's autistic. And that's the reason we get the good dupes because she goes down every little ingredient and and makes this right. I mean, there's stuff that she says you buy at the Dollar Tree for a$125 because that's how much Dollar Tree is now. One of my favorite stores. And she uh says, "Don't buy that expensive thing. Buy this one." And I'll I'll tell you one other thing. I haven't tried it yet, but it's deodorant. That Lumi Lum deodorant. It's very good. That same exact deodorant with the exact same and that's $15. That exact same deodorant, exact same ingredients, you can get for uh $4.99 Dr. Teals. Same stuff. Did you know that the reason they give her [ __ ] for being autistic is because of RFK? No. Well, she said No, she said it herself. I saw her on Tik Tok and said, "People are shaming me and I'm tired of it." So, I think she's on Tik Tok. I can still see some of her clips on Tik Tok that were old ones. She's really funny. She's really just a character saying like she had a pickle nose to start, but now her nose is just beautiful and all this stuff. H, but now she has moved over to Instagram. So, you can find her on Instagram. She's the dupinary queen. She does dupes like no other. People follow her religiously and I'm one of them. Dupe. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for your diddy. Uh let's move on, shall we? Last week I wanted to address Well, let's take a question from a listener first. No, let's do this first. Last week, we got kind of heated and I felt a little bit like I don't know like you guys always feel like this has to be an argument and that's not what this is supposed to be. So, I want to ask each of you three questions. The same three, mom and dad. And me and Haley aren't going to say anything. I just literally want to know your answers. What do you think about these things? All right. No argument. I just want to hear your side of it. They won't rebuttal back. Dad, uh, I'll start with you. What is your favorite thing that Trump has done in these past 107 days? Roughly? Kick a bunch of Legos out. Okay. Mom, what is your favorite thing that Trump has done? Um, close the border like 99% and not allowing illegals to come back in and collect social security and get free government cards and all of that. So, made our country safer. All right. So, both of you are that same answer. Made the border safer. Yes. Okay. Or dad, in your case, it's just getting rid of illegal immigrants. Not just illegal. What's he doing over there? What's going on? I said yes. He said yes. Okay. Uh my next question is, Dad, what is something you think he could be doing better? I think right now what he needs to do is bomb Iran. Oh wow. More bombing, you think? Yeah. Okay. Mom, what is something you think Trump could be doing better right now? Well, this is kind of a crazy thing, but you know, because dad and I bought the cologne and the shoes and gave a little bit of money to his campaign. We didn't give a lot of money, a little money. I still get emails from him daily. I don't read emails. Mr. Trump, you are a president. Go do what you need to do and stop sending me emails. Okay. So, your what could he be doing better is sending less spam to the people who are giving him Yes. Yes. And then the final question, Dad, is is there anything you think that he should not have done? Something he has done in these past 100 days that you disagree with? You don't think he should have done it? No. Mom, is there anything you think he shouldn't have done? I can't think of anything. I can't think of anything right now. Okay. So, best thing he's done from both of you is border and getting rid of immigrants. Something he could do better is, "Dad, you think he could drop more bombs? Mom, you think stop sending more bombs? Bomb Iran." Is that in your background? Haley, people screaming. It's not my background. Okay. And then you both believe there is nothing he should not have done. He's made no mistake so far. Look, I'm sure he has, but I can't think of any big one right now. Go back to number one. It's not just stopping the illegals coming in. It's stopping the bad people, the people with drugs, the people with bombs that are supposed to be here. There's supposed to be Iranian bombs or something in the United States now because they came through the border. He stopped some of that bad stuff coming across the border that shouldn't have come. All right. I was just curious what you thought about that. Um, let's move on now to a question from a listener. Sorry, Mom. Go ahead. Can I say one thing? I know you were busy getting the show ready. I don't think you saw this. This just came on the news. It was on X, I think. Uh, Ura, Ukraine, Ukraine should agree to this immediately. At least they will be able to determine whether or not a deal is possible. Russia has agreed to a May 15th meeting to end the war and Donald Trump negotiated this May 15th. So far there ain't no end to the war. We'll see. We saw what he did with the ceasefire which was going to be one of our talk topics between um India and Pakistan. That ceasefire that he negotiated lasted about an hour and a half before they started fighting again. So we'll see. Um, okay. Let's move on to a question from a listener. We do this every week to open the show. If you have a question, please record it in a one minute or shorter video format and email it to the necessary conversation pod atgmail.com. Are you guys ready for this question? Yep. Yes. Here we go. Hello, Bob, Mary Lou, Chad, and Haley. My question is, how do you determine if a news source or piece of information is trustworthy? Thank you. Wow. There you go. Short and to the point. Dad, how do you determine if a news source is trustworthy? He didn't ask me. Yes, he did. He said, "Hello, Colchin family. We You're part of the culture family." Oh, he did not. He said Maryl Chad and Haley. He said Colchen family, I think. Replay it. Lord, how do I determine whether it's news? Bob, Maryl, Chad, and Haley. Hello, Bob. Maryl, Chad, and Haley. first name. Is that good enough for you? Yeah. All right. Trustworthy. So for you it's Newsmax or nothing. There you are. No other news source is trustworthy. No. And how do you make that determination? Why do you come to that conclusion? Just because of what I read uh other places and what's put on the different stations. So, you still read all the other news sources? I read a lot of stuff. But Newsmax is the only one you think you can trust. That's right. Even Fox News at this point, you can't trust. Fox can't trust. All right. Mom, I don't know. How do you is I You don't You don't anymore. Who knows? You just read and then what you think is right, that's what you go with. because um I do like Newsmax. Um I watch the Today Show. Dad tells me that's garbage. Get off of that. Um I love local news. I think local news is real, but for big world politics, it's hard to pick now. But you go with Newsmax as your baseline as well. Yes, I do. Okay. Haley, how do you determine what news is real? I try to consume news that is unbiased as much as I can. Um, you obviously don't want somebody reporting who has a personal [ __ ] opinion on the matter. So, I look for facts, statistics, and an unbiased opinion when I'm consuming news. But, and where do you find that? That's what uh right now like in my feed I follow um like CNN, I follow BBC. Uh, it's okay. None known to be, I guess, more liberal leaning, but I'm not going to accept news from Fox or Newsmax because I know that that's biased, right? I my answer to this question would be I don't think there is unbiased news, especially in the era of cable news networks. They all have an agenda. They all have an angle and the bottom line is they're all forprofit. They are motivated by retaining your attention, period. So the way they deliver the news and the news they deliver is designed to scare you, to enrage you, all of these kinds of things, it it really doesn't have much to do anymore with unbiased reporting. That said, I think if you can have kind of a consensus in what everyone is reporting, if there is a story that's being reported on CNN and Newsmax, for example, they will be reported in different ways, but that story will be reported. That story then is probably real. If something is happening that everyone must be talking about, the story at least is real, how it's reported. I mean, you have to look between the lines basically. You have to read I feel like this is what I do. I read so much news from every angle. And I have to kind of piece together what seems real and what seems like, well, they're saying it this way because the overlord of their giant corporate greed machine media company has told them to. Um, and all news stations are uh guilty of this. Do you do you even read like online like where um sometimes I'll see like now I'm not knocking these countries but I'll see like India something something or Pakistani news ma not newsmax but you read all of those things on the internet too. Uh if there's like like Haley's saying I trust local news reporting almost more than I do CNN or MSNBC or anything like that. Um, I mean, invariably, I think most political news now is just it's taking video clips of Donald Trump or whoever was at a congressional hearing and just throwing them on TV and then you have a a panel of talking heads reacting to that video. That's really what news has become, at least in cable news networks, but with videos now and cameras that are set up outside all around. Did you see that girl the other day walking a dog and then spit on one of the reporters? Now that that was real. You can't make that stuff up. It was terrible. Sure. Then she goes, "Yeah, I'm talking more about the spin of things like Huh. If you see it on a video, you That's just an incident. I'm talking more about how things are reported. For example, you know, when Trump launches his tariffs, MSNBC, CNN will say, "He's launching these tariffs. Here are the numbers. Here are the countries that he's going after, and this is why it's bad." Newsmax will say, "Here's the tariffs. Here's the numbers. Here's where he's going after, and this is why it's good." They're completely opposed in terms of how they're couching the information, but the information is still the same. So, you can glean from it. Like the only real thing you can take out of that is here's the numbers and the countries and the tariffs. The other [ __ ] that comes with it, whether it's good or bad, you have to make your own determination. And if you're only watching Newsmax, you'll make the determination they are telling you to make. I don't or CNN. Yeah. Or CNN or MSNBC. I agree. They have an angle, too. They are slanted to the left for sure. But like what you were talking about too when dad and I watch the weather here on different weather channels. There are different weather channels. The ones that want you to stay on there the longest and watch them, they over sensationalize what's happening. Yeah. You know, like a guy, you have to be smart. You have to do your [ __ ] due diligence. Like in Texas, you know, they're reporting that Greg Abbott just uh he signed the [ __ ] bill into law. So now we have I my taxes now go toward private education. I have to pay for kids to go to private school. Now these vouchers are in effect. Families are getting $10,000 to send their kids to private school. And you know when you read Newsmax and [ __ ] like that, they spin it as like a tremendous thing that's happening. But when you go read something like CNN, it's going to tell you how terrible this is for public schooling. When did you read When did you read it on Newsmax? I didn't. I'm just giving examples. Well, then why you why are you acting like you know because we all is right-wing propaganda because I live it. So, you know, it it does depend on what you're consuming. Um, we all know as as parents who send our kids to [ __ ] public school that this is a terrible thing. It's going to steal money from public education and put it in the hands of rich people and basically give them a [ __ ] break on their tuition for private school. Uh, so you have to have a [ __ ] brain and also I'm living through it. So understanding things is important and not just [ __ ] consuming and believing. You have to question everything. Dad, I got a question for you. What are you watching? What am I watching? Yeah. What are you What are you looking at off screen there? Huh? The screen's on, but there's no sound or anything. I have noises. So, what are you watching? It's It's taking your attention away from the conversation into space. Is that our what? He said he's staring into space. I can't just look out. You're watching TV. I can see you doing it. It's Newsmax. But there's nothing on there. Then what are you looking at? Well, right now, okay, if you want to know what's on there right now, there is a simple heart cure heart test 911.com. Okay. Can you turn that off so that you're present in this conversation with us? No, just leave it alone. I I'm tired of turning the TV on and off and here. [Laughter] Okay, first topic, American Pope. This week, the Catholic Church made history by electing an hour. So, continue. I know. And I have like eight topics because a lot [ __ ] happened this week. So, we're going to blaze through this. We got to hurry because at 1:00 it's wild cat baseball. All right. This week, the Catholic Church made history by electing Cardinal Robert Francis Pvost as Pope Leo I 14th. The first Americanborn pope. The 69-year-old Chicago native with deep missionary roots in Peru and dual US Peruvian citizenship was chosen on May 8th after four rounds of voting during a two-day conclave. Pope Leo the 14th selection marks a significant shift reflecting the church's evolving global identity. Choosing the name Leo pays homage to Pope Leo I1 13th, known for championing workers rights and social justice. Politically, the new pope has expressed criticism on social media of Trump's immigration policies, including mass deportations and family separations. He also opposed Vice President JD Vance's stance on prioritizing citizens over im immigrants, emphasizing the church's commitment to compassion and dignity for all. Dad, do you like this new pope? Well, I think you'll be all right. He ain't worse than the last one. All right, Mom. Do you like him? I mean, I don't know him. I don't know what he's going to do. We've got to have some time here. Wait and see. But I think he'll be fine. And you know, surprised everyone that he was from the United States. That was a big surprise. Chicago, I think, areas where he grew up. But then he went overseas for a while. But everybody was surprised. Yeah. Never know. How are you feeling about the new pope? I don't generally care about Catholicism or the pope or any of that [ __ ] but I guess it's a good sign that he's uh, you know, taking a stance on Yeah. anti-Trump, taking a stance on immigration. I think that's a positive thing. Okay. See, what I think is odd, why all of a sudden do we have to put labels on him and say whether he's Republican? Is he Democrat? Does he hate Trump? Does he love Trump? Does he hate Vance? Why are we doing that? Because Donald Trump right now, the Catholic people in faith, why would you why would you cut him down if he's if he is Republican or if he is Democratic? Because Donald Trump is destroying the fabric of America and someone in this man's stature, a [ __ ] pope in another country, what he thinks and what he believes is important at this current situation, at this time. Everyone hates Donald Trump. So, we need to know if this [ __ ] dude is on our side or not. And he is. So, that's a positive thing. On our side. We've talked about that before. On our side. I'm not even saying our side or your side or whatever. It's what is his position in reaction to Donald Trump's policies and Donald Trump's clear attempt to become a dictator in America. And he so far based on his tweets and stuff, he's against stuff you just said. That's all your opinions on what Donald Trump is doing. That's not my This is not opinion. This is not opinion. Time to see how he unfolds here and what he does. I body slammed a [ __ ] 16-year-old and ripped a four-week old baby out of a mother's arms in Massachusetts to deport them. And what stage did you see that on? It's all over the [ __ ] internet. Okay. I have not seen that, so I can't When did this happen? I haven't seen it yet either. A mother with her 16-year-old and her four-week old baby in her arms. An entire neighborhood [ __ ] surrounded them and said, "You're not doing this." They bodys slammed the 16-year-old to the ground and cuffed her. The baby went to a [ __ ] bystander and the woman was arrested and ICE took the the 16-year-old and the mother away in Massachusetts. Sounds good to me. Oh gosh. Wait, Dad. You You're for this? Yeah, I'm for that. Why? Why not? No warrant. No reason. Because it's illegal. Why? What did a 16-year-old get his ass slam dunk for? It was a girl for nothing. Yeah. What What's the reason she got slammed up? For trying to resist arrest for no reason. There you go. Quit yelling, please. She broke the [ __ ] law. A 16-year-old girl got body slammed by [ __ ] two ICE agents that outweighed her by 100 pounds. I hope it shook her up good. Well, I don't agree with what he's saying, but a 16-year-old girl could also have a knife or a gun and kill either one of them. I wish they would have. Okay, that's got to be at this point. They're stealing people. They're literally They're stealing people out of the [ __ ] streets and out of their homes. No, they are not. Well, one of them uh we'll move on to this uh story then. You better get rolling if you got Thanks. Okay, I'm going out of order here. Um, Mom, one of this story wasn't in the document I sent you, but that tough student, last name Ozurk, was ordered to be released by a federal court. She is now released. Where was she was being held in a detention center. She was a tough student. This is the woman that they just took off the street, kidnapped off the street. That video came out. They ripped her cell phone out of her hand and they disappeared her. A judge said you have to release her and they did in fact release her. So the judicial system now is issuing demands. They are complying. I mean that's a positive thing. But yeah, when you show up with no warrant and no [ __ ] reason to take these people and there's no due process. That's what they're doing now. They are illegally [ __ ] kidnapping people because the judicial system says no, you're going to be held accountable for this [ __ ] So if there is if they're taking because there are immigrants here who don't have their papers yet, but they have applied for all of that [ __ ] They are here legally waiting to become citizens. They're taking these people and they're shipping them off to different countries. Yes, they are. No, they are not. If they haven't done work, they're not. They're waiting on their How do you think it works? That you just cross the [ __ ] border and they hand you papers? That's not how it works. No, you just cross the You cross the [ __ ] border and the government ignores it until now. Now they're arresting your ass. What are you supposed to do when you're waiting for your paperwork to go through? Wait on your paperwork wherever you live. But legally, you can do that in America. No, you can't. People argue on that and they're paying taxes. Why can't you become a US citizen while you're waiting or they're waiting for the paperwork to be completed so they get citizenship? Excuse what? For breaking you you make up excuses to break the [ __ ] law. Moving on. Go. All right. The next uh topic is Cash Patel. This week, FBI Director Cash Patel faced intense scrutiny during congressional hearings marked by inconsistent testimony, missed deadlines, and evasive responses. Despite being asked repeatedly to produce the budget plan that was due to Congress days ago, Patel failed to provide the budget plan or any kind of timeline for his proposed changes to the FBI, attributing delays to inter agency coordination. This lack of preparedness drew criticism from lawmakers who questioned his understanding of key legal principles and his ability to lead the FBI effectively. Additionally, Patel's testimony regarded regarding his involvement in producing a song with the J6 prison choir and his relationship with far-right figure Steuart Peters was contradicted by prior public statements and appearances, raising concerns about his credibility. Since taking over the FBI, Patel has reduced the frequency of the FBI director's daily morning briefings, traditionally held at 8:30 a.m. each weekday. These briefings, Dad, you don't have to do this. You seem like you don't want to be here today. I got to wait till 1. Go. You don't go. If you don't want to do it, bye. All right. Uh, since taking over FBI, Patel has reduced the frequency of the FBI director's daily morning briefings, traditionally held at 8:30 a.m. each weekday. These briefings have been scaled back to just two days a week due to Patel's habitual tardiness leading to cancellations and rescheduling of meetings. Additionally, Patel has discontinued the weekly secure video conferences with field office leaders, a practice aimed at maintaining cohesive communication across the bureau. Mom, he's gone. Dad's gone. What's his deal today? I have no idea. Happy Mother's Day. No [ __ ] It's been a good Maybe he'll come back for the simmer down because I do want to hear his answers to this. So my question is, Mom, do you think the head of the FBI should be able to provide an FBI budget to Congress by the deadline for that budget? Yes. So going on something's going on. It's not good. Um interesting. Yeah. I I don't think what he's doing is right. I think Trump will will do something. I do. You can't let the head of FBI do what he's not making meetings. He's not having as many. Something's not right. I don't know. He's inept. That's what's not right. He's bad at this job. He was never qualified for it. And now we're seeing that. The same thing is happening with Pete Hexath. Many of the people that he's put in these positions are completely unable to do the job. Well, then Trump will make a change. You think you think he'll fire Cash Patel? I don't know if he'll fire him, but he might. If he doesn't if he doesn't do the job that he's supposed to do, Trump's not gonna let him stay in there. How do you trust Trump's judgment now that he's put all these [ __ ] turds in office who are just mucking it up? How do you then trust him to choose somebody who's qualified? Because it's very clear he hasn't. I don't think they're all turds. Like what you said, a lot of them are very, very good. It's a good cabinet. It's a good people that he's put around him, but something is not right with this one with with Patel what he's doing. I read a bunch of that stuff. Something something's not adding up. But you think Heg Seth is okay. Yes, I do like him. Interesting. He's made big fuckups, too, though. Well, the signal gate that was that's kind of weird what happened there. And nobody's going to ever get to the bottom of that. Get to the bottom of it. We're we're at the bottom of it. The bottom of it. He's using a commercial app to text secret war plans to his wife and his brother-in-law, the editor-in chief of the [ __ ] Atlantic. The Biden administration and everybody was told to use it and all that. The guy that that supposedly started that text is now out of that position and onto something else. But where he was placed is a good good place to be, too. It's not. So I don't know. I don't think what Heath has done it multiple times. I don't think so. Two instances where he has blundered this. He's used the [ __ ] app. Two different instances. Two is not multiple, but that's okay. It literally is. Let's uh let's move on to our next topic. Then we'll get to the simmer down. Our next topic is [ __ ] the first responders. This week, RFK gutted the World Trade Center Health Program, laying off 16 staff members, including nurses and scientists. The world the uh World Trade Center health program provides health care to over 137,000 911 first responders and survivors. The cuts uh led to delays in cancer treatments and halted new enrollments, leaving hundreds of 911 first responders without access to any necessary care. Mom, do you think the 911 first responders should be able to get health care through our government? Of course. Now, what I read on this was that is you're right. They're no longer Okay. So, we agree on the facts. That's good. But, it's being consolidated what I read into uh the Administration for Healthy America is what it's called. Great. So there are other parts within our government that can help those people. People that had already applied for cancer help u that were enrolled will go on. It said I mean I don't know because I'm not in this and applying myself but it said they would be okay. The ones that were not enrolled then they have to go to different agencies to help. But I read there were three other agencies that could help them. So I don't think they just threw those people away and said no more. I don't in this interim though where they're trying to shift [ __ ] around, these people who have to have daily care in some cases are not getting it. So at the very least they've thrown a a week-long wrench into these people's treatment plans. And who knows what kind of detrimental effects that could have. Yeah, I don't think that's right. Especially if it was one of us. Heck no. So, they're scrambling to reorganize and and kind of consolidate it and doing some of that Doge stuff where they get rid of people to slimline it and make it better for all. That's kind of what I read. So, that's kind of where I'm going with that. And it is people need the care. Where'd you read that? Um, on my AI little guy that came on the internet and talked with me. Okay, let's move on to our simmer down. I don't know if dad wants to come back for this or not, but it is about Mother's Day because this is Mother's Day. Is he going to come back? Doesn't apply to him apparently. Well, [ __ ] it. We don't need him. Um, happy Mother's Day first of all to you, Mom, and to you, Haley. You're also a mother. I wanted to get from both of you, what are some of your favorite memories of being a mother? Mom, please go first. Oh, and also, do you want me to show this picture that you sent me? If you want, Haley, you go first. We'll get these questions, then we'll take a look at this picture. Are these memories of our mother or my children or memories of you being a mother? Oh, wow. Oh [ __ ] Hang on. Now I have to take a I have to take a small break to let my cat in. This Oh my god. Somebody's gonna give you hell for leaving the screen. Uh oh. I'm glad dad isn't watching this. Where did he go? I don't know who. Dad. Yeah. In the other room watching baseball. He's fired. He's bad. Yeah. I don't care. I want to hear your memories of being a mom. I don't. I mean, you're out. That's a big ask. Like, I got one of mine is 2018 and 16. That's 20 [ __ ] years of trying to remember moments. I'm 48 years old. How old are you? 44. Yeah, 44. That's a lot, too. Yeah. Um I don't know. I guess I am it's hard to pinpoint through all of the 20 years like what moment you know I remember the most or the that's hard to do uh on the spot but I am lucky that my kids talk to me every day like Roman will text me or call me certainly like two three times a week cuz he's off at college now um Willow like goes to concerts with me and [ __ ] We've traveled together. Uh Harper is she's the wild child. But she, you know, like we go shopping, we do things together. So, I'm lucky that I my kids are in my life. They give a [ __ ] They come to me, they talk to me about everything. So, I I don't know. I feel like I did something right because a lot of times kids pull away. They don't want to talk to their parents. Um I still feel like I'm at the forefront of their lives even though they are becoming adults. And so for that, I am grateful. I have lots of memories of the kids, good and bad. Like, you know, they've [ __ ] on me, they've thrown up on me, they've pissed on me, all that, all that, cuz motherhood is unglamorous uh lots of the time. But I don't know. I just feel lucky that they're good kids and they still talk to me because they want to. So, it's nice. Mom, oh my gosh, it's hard like you said. Oh my gosh. Okay. Chad's would be Have you experienced stitches today? Have you ever experienced stitches? No. Today will experience the stitches. Yeah. He sliced his knee open on a can of corn, taking it out to the trash. He knelt down. Slice. He came in and I was like, "Oh my god." He goes, "It's nothing. It's nothing." How old were you? Like seventh grade, eighth grade? No, younger. I was maybe 10 or 11. We lived in Amarillo. Yeah. So, he had to go get stitches and he almost passed down and he's such a wuss with blood and stuff. But I remember that vividly like it was yesterday. Haley. Um, she always made me laugh when Chad was involved and would pull you in the diaper box and you would put Chad's underwear on to be a wrestling queen or something and he would pull you around the house as a little kid in the diaper box like a choo choo train. I thought for sure since you brought up Chad's trauma, you were going to talk about me falling off the tennis tower or slamming into the telephone pole on my bike at the park. Oh yeah, both of those were good. Um, I think the tennis tower would be the worst. We were on a tennis trip. Uh, I was coaching. Uh, dad was with us and then Dr. Jay was driving the bus. The all the high school kids had just got out for practice on the courts. It was early morning. I see Haley out of the corner of my eye and she went up on a tower, a judge's tower that was probably what, 10 foot tall and all of a sudden, boom, she goes over backwards and as she fell, she uh caved this part of her head in. Oh yeah. Needless to say, bye kids, high school kids, see you later. Threw her in the van. Dad drove the van was scraping the streets as we were going to the emergency and she turned out to be okay but yeah had a bad concussion. You've always had concussions. Same on the bike. Went down. You got CTE. Well, thank you for your your motherly memories. Thank you for being my mom and my sister. Um happy Mother's Day to everybody out there. Did you get your gift certificates yet? No, I did get gifts from Haley. Thank you. But I thought yours were coming and I knew that. Um, one other thing that um I will always cherish is the day that Haley became a mother and I got to experience all three of those births. They were all about the same with the with the word flying one time 27 times. The f word, the fbomb. I think I lost count on the other one. It was over 50 fbombs. Uh yeah. So yeah, I do I do vividly remember all three births of my children like with vivid detail. I remember Cedub almost passing out when I got an aesiottomy with Roman literally like his whole body went just talking about it. I'm going to [ __ ] pass out. Oh god. I I remember all of that with vivid detail. Having to stay in the hospital until I could piss and [ __ ] again. Um vivid detail. I remember all of it. And some for some reason I thought like doing it three times would be a good idea. You'll never forget those memories with Chad when he was born. Uh the do it was an Air Force hospital. They were like, you know, matter of fact, you're having a baby. Okay. I I delivered him. They delivered him with forceps because anyway, he comes out. Uh they tie the cord, hand the baby to dad, and the doctor looks at me and says, "I'm not kidding you." This was in 15 within 15 minutes of me giving birth. The doctor said, "Would you like to walk back to your room?" I said, "Of course, let's go." I walked back to the room. That is such a no no. I could have hemorrhaged down. Yeah. And you were 16 minutes of u a little bit of cramping in my tummy. From the minute we hit the hospital door and opened it, you were born 16 minutes later. I was screaming, "Get me on the table now. 16 minutes of labor. You are easy." Congrats. Well, happy Mother's Day to both of you. Happy Mother's Day to everybody out there who is a mother, has a mother, knows a mother, etc. Now, and whether you are mothers to two-legged or four-legged, there are some people that are mothers to four-legged animal. I guess I have a son, too. Yeah. Yeah. But you're not a mother, am I not? Let's move on to our next topic. Trump gets paid. This week, reports surfaced about Trump's cryptocurrency ventures in conflict with US trade policy. Specifically, a $2 billion investment by a United Arab Emiratesbacked fund into Trump affiliated cryptocurrency has raised concerns about potential conflicts of interest. This transaction coincided with the Trump administration's announcement to ease export restrictions on advanced AI chips to the UAE, a move that benefits US chip makers like Nvidia. Critics argue that the timing of these events suggests a potential quidd proquo where favorable US trade policies may be influenced by foreign investments in ventures linked to the president's family. Do you understand what's going on here, Mom? No. That's why I'm googling kind of. I United Arab Emirates basically gave Trump $2 billion through one of his cryptocurrencies. Okay. And then he eased up uh sanctions, tariffs, etc. on chip trading policies to the UAE. So they gave him $2 billion and he basically said, "Okay, let the AI chips go to them." They paid him straight gave Donald Trump money, not the United States government. Gave Donald Trump $2 billion. He then gives them the chips. Do you think president should be able to do this? I have uh What did Biden I I know you say I shouldn't say that, but didn't Biden give paintings or the sun for like billions of dollars, too? probably. Who cares? I'm asking you, should a president be able to do this, accept $2 billion personally and then alter law and trade policy to help whoever gave him that money? How did he what did he do to alter the law? Not to alter the law. So, he basically has put these tariffs on all kinds of [ __ ] One of the big things is exporting AI chips, which everyone now needs as everybody's building new AI infrastructure and all their computing systems. So, United Arab Emirates said, "Here's $2 billion," President Trump in cryptocurrency. So, there's no, it's not money going into a bank or coming from a a political action committee. It's none of that. It's here's $2 billion. And then Trump says, "Great, let them have the chips." They literally paid him as a person and got preferential treatment by the president of the United States. I think though if it was like paper money, you know, going into a bank account, it would be worse. What? Of course, because it could be traced. Crypto is at this point pretty unregulated and it is used primarily in cases like this to hide payments, to launder money, to do nefarious [ __ ] because there is no paper trail. Not in the same way. Crypto is nothing anymore. Crypto is not that big of a deal, is it? $2 billion. I don't It doesn't matter if it's traded in crypto or paper money. It's $2 billion. Yeah. To me, it kind of does. Huh? How could I? Here's how it works. Here's how it works. Okay. United Arab Emirates, whatever this There's an organization that is from there that is doing this for their country. Okay? They buy $2 billion worth of a Trump coin, let's say. So they then get that coin which is effectively worthless. Trump gets $2 billion. He then says thanks. He cashes that out, turns it into real money. That goes into his bank account and then says let them have the chips. They just paid him $2 billion to get preferential treatment. Another government. Well, if this is all not good and not supposed to happen, why does everybody know about it? He's doing plenty of things that are illegal and seemingly nothing is happening. Judges are saying you can't do this, you can't do this, but nobody's enforcing it. That tough student getting released really is kind of like in my opinion the first big thing that has shown the Trump uh administration will take some kind of action in service of whatever these judges are telling them to do. This I think is cryptocurrency is like the wild west still because there's not strong government regulation because people as you've just uh indicated don't really understand how it works. I don't understand it. Uhuh. I don't. He's taking bribery. He's taking things for himself from other governments. Well, I mean that's been going on forever. So I don't know. I mean if it was illegal illegal bad how do we how would we know about it when they try to keep it more This is this is impeachable. You lose your [ __ ] presidency over this. I think there's going to be major investigations into this as there is with everything. We saw all these different congressional hearings that are happening this week. Christy Gnome had to go before Congress and basically admitted to spending more money than is budgeted for her department and not giving a [ __ ] and not giving a [ __ ] that she's breaking the law when she's deporting people, detaining people. She kind of was like, "Yeah, and spending all the money that we didn't have." That's Democrats. It's Christy Gnome. Okay. All right. Let's move on. Diplomat Trump. This is what I was talking about earlier. This Saturday, after an escalation of military action between India and Pakistan, Trump announced that his team had secured a quote full and immediate ceasefire. Both nations confirmed the agreement. Though India did not publicly acknowledge US involvement while Pakistan expressed gratitude to Trump for his rule. Trump's ceasefire lasted a few hours before explosions were reported in India administered Kashmir and both sides accused each other of violating the truce. India claimed Pakistan initiated the breach, prompting a proportional response while Pakistan denied violations and blamed India for the continued aggression. Um, okay. Mom, Trump has Huh. It's stopped now though, hasn't it? I I don't know. I haven't looked at the news today, but yesterday it was like they ceasefired for literally I think an hour and 45 minutes and then uh started right back up. So Trump has failed to end the war in Gaza. Trump has failed to end the war in Ukraine. Now his first broker ceasefire, his first peace deal gets obliterated in a few hours. Do you think Trump and his team are good at diplomacy like this? Yes, because right here three hours ago, India Pakistan truce appears to hold despite accusations of not. That was on CNN. All right, so it has failed. Okay. Well, maybe I'm wrong on that one, but nonetheless, he still has not ended these other two wars. Do you think, Mom, being able to perform uh diplomatic actions like this to help other countries solve their disputes is something an American president should be doing? Yes. Because eventually it will come back on us. And let's see what happens. What did I tell you? May 15th with Russia. Mhm. And Ukraine. Let's see there. Okay, let's move on. I have three more topics I want to get to. I think we can get to all of them. Next one is habius corpus. This week, the Trump administration signaled the potential move to suspend the constitutional right of habius corpus for migrants detained in the US, intensifying its immigration enforcement policies. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Steven Miller stated that the administration is quote actively looking at suspending habius corpus to expedite deportations, citing the constitutional provision that allows such suspension during instances of rebellion or invasion. Neither of which is happening here, by the way. Legal experts, however, argue that the constitution granted grants only Congress the authority to suspend habius corpus, not the president, and only under specific circumstances. The caution that unilateral action by the executive branch would likely face uh significant legal challenges and could be deemed unconstitutional. The administration's consideration of this measure follows recent legal setbacks in its immigration enforcement efforts. Federal courts have blocked deportations under the Alien Enemies Act, emphasizing the necessity of due process for its detainees. Mom, should everyone in America have habius corpus rights? I've always heard that the only one that could change that is Congress. Okay. But so what's your answer? Yeah. The question is, do you think everyone should have this right? Yes. Okay. So, you disagree completely with what Trump is doing on this one? Yes. It's okay. Okay. Okay. It's okay to do that. How does that feel? Fine. All right. I would I would have said that no matter what. Well, it's important because if you see something wrong, it you're allowed to say so regardless whether Trump has issued some [ __ ] order or not. Like it's important to see that what is happening is wrong. what I spoke about earlier too. If Patel is not doing that job, Trump's not gonna leave him in there and let let him do bad. He'll get him out. So you still then for you, it's like the habius corpus thing. You disagree with what the Trump administration is trying to do here to get rid of that fundamental right. You disagree with it. I do disagree with that. But you still don't disagree with Trump is what it's sounding like. No, he's our president. No, but Trump wants to do this thing you disagree with. It I think Congress should be the one that that can change it only. But Trump doesn't think that. I know that. So something's got to give, doesn't it? He's trying to steamroll the judicial system. He's trying to find back doors to do these nefarious [ __ ] things that harm the American public. Because once you open the door to [ __ ] like that, no habius corpus, who's to say he can't just [ __ ] pick me up and send me to El Salvador. That's what that opens the door for. Like literally anyone down anyone's door and that's terrifying. And Donald Trump is down with that. Like I said, Congress should be the one. All right. Well, this is interesting. We're making some progress here. Mom, I can. Haley, what did you didn't let Haley say what she was talking about before we got online? What she was going to do for Mother's Day? I'm buying guns. How many? We're going to go buy guns. Uh, we're both going to get one. So, two today. What kind? I have one, but we're going to get more. Um, handguns. No, not an AR-15. Not yet. Anyway, well, happy Mother's Day. Exercise your Second Amendment right. We have two more topics. Mom, I think we're on a good path here. Maybe we can continue down it. The next topic is no internet for you. This week, Trump declared the termination of the $ 2.75 billion digital equity act, a program established under the 2021 infrastructure law aimed at improving internet access for marginalized groups, including rural residents, veterans, and low-income households. Trump criticized the program as racist and unconstitutional, asserting that it represented unnecessary government spending. The administration also paused the broadband equity access and deployment program, a $42.5 billion initiative designed to fund fiber optic internet infrastructure in underserved areas. Additionally, the administration proposed halting new broadband funding through the US Department of Agricultures Reconnect program, which has historically supported internet expansion in rural areas. The White House justified this decision decision by stating that existing resources are sufficient and that some programs are redundant or better served by the private sector. The states most affected by the loss of government funded internet access were these where these programs were already rolled out are all deep red states that voted for Trump, including Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, Arkansas, and Iowa. Mom, should all citizens have easy access to the internet? Yes. But wasn't that program started uh with uh Camela Harris and she was supposed to start it and there wasn't even a shovel put in the ground or wires put anywhere and it was like what 60 or 40 billion dollars and nothing was done. No. All these states that I' I just mentioned Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, Arkansas and Iowa have all already had those programs initiated. the people in the rural areas of those states are getting internet access through these programs. Trump has now shut it down. So, they cannot get internet access. Um, she was called she was called the broadband zar and did nothing. She had 42.45 billion. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Why are we talking about Kla Harris? Donald Trump is doing because because No, she was supposed to um make that better during her time and our government gave her 42 billion dollars, but nothing was done. He's saying these states already have this [ __ ] in place and Donald Trump is going to eliminate it. No, they don't all have that in place because she never implemented it. No, those states that I just mentioned, that program has started in all of those states. Now he's yanking it. So the people who live outside the cities, rural areas, uh you know, places, lowincome areas, these places need this [ __ ] to have the internet. He's taking that away, which at this point, I personally believe the internet is like water or gas. It's it's like a basic utility that everybody should have. Um let me ask you this, Mom. Do you think the people who live in these rural areas of these red states when they voted for Trump, do you think they thought he's going to take my internet away? Who knows? I don't know. It was never started for them. Yes, it was. They all of these states that I just mentioned were getting their internet in these rural areas from these programs. Well, what happened to the 42 billion broadband that she was supposed to start? Where's that money? That's this program. No, that money is still there started. I don't think everything I read said it has been started in some of these states. I don't think it was. I don't think it was. All right. Well, I guess agree to disagree. Let's move on. We have two two more. One more topic. One more. Are you ready? Mhm. This is the detention center catastrophe. On May 9th, 2025, a confrontation unfolded at the Delaney Hall Immigration and Customs Enforcement Detention Facility in New York, New Jersey. Congress people Bonnie Watson Coleman, Rob Menendez Jr., and L Monica Macccyver, who attempted an unannounced oversight visit to Delaney Hall, a facility operated by the private prison company GEO Group under a $1 billion 15-year contract with ICE. Newark Mayor Ross Baraka also was with the delegation, was arrested and charged with trespassing. He contends he was on public property and had been invited to a press event. Video footage shows Baraka being handcuffed after returning to the public side of the gate. The Department of Homeland Security alleges that the lawmakers assaulted ICE officers during the incident, including claims of body slamming. These allegations have not been corroborated by witnesses or any video evidence whatsoever. Delaney Hall's reopening has been contentious with critics citing its location in a contaminated area and alleged violations of state and local laws. Mayor Baraka has vowed to continue legal action against the GEO group, asserting the facility operates without proper permits. This is my question. My first question, Mom. Should we have forprofit prisons? There are prisons in the United States that are profit. I know that. I happen to know that this place is one of them. I know. And there's going to be more. So, somebody is going to reap benefits on this, right? But you understand the conflict here. That means you have to fill those prisons. Yes. No, there some of them are already filled. I happen to know two people that five years ago, oh kitty, opened their own prison. I mean, they built it and then opened it and they're quite wealthy because of it. So prisons are profitable. It's going to happen. But are you for that? Are you for the This is the basic idea of a for-profit prison. I am going to I need to incarcerate people. I don't give a [ __ ] what their charges are or if they're actually guilty. I need to have bodies in these cells to get federal money. So, give me all the bodies. Who? I don't understand that. That's how those prisons work. For-profit prisons work. They get government grants and government contracts. Like this one has a contract with ICE. It's a billion dollars to detain people. But they put people in there that have committed crimes, Chad. They just need people off. Oh my god. You think everybody who's in a prison is correctly convicted of their crimes? No. Yes. No. Holy [ __ ] Well, we know that's exactly false. Plenty of people overturn their cases all the time. New DNA evidence, cold cases that get solved that exonerate people. You're right. No, no, no. You're right. January, the January crew. Yeah, I guess you're right. The never been in prison. January 6 is what she's talking about. Yeah. They shouldn't have been in there. Fine. Great. Well, I don't agree with you, but let's take that as an example. You think none of those people were correctly convicted, but they were all in prison, right? Right. Right. Okay. So, you don't think it can happen with anyone else? It was only the January 6th riers. Yes, I guess so. Yes, it can. Okay. So, they're not they are not constructing prisons just to throw people in for the fun of it. Yes, they are. For the profit of it. That's a for-profit prison system says the more people you can pack behind these cells, behind these bars, the more money we will give you. That's why it's forprofit. And that my question to you is, do you think we should have a for-profit prison system? Is because it it kind of a for-profit prison in my opinion is among the it's the worst things America does. And now we're even outsourcing it to El Salvador, Libya, they're talking about. So it's going to be cheap for-profit prison labor. It's like what we do with all of our technology and sneakers and what? Huh? How about Alcatraz? Trump wants to um fix Alcatraz and put some people in there. What's wrong with that? He likes his prisons. What's wrong with it is that will also be forprofit. When you have these things that are profit motive is what drives a for-profit business. The only thing that business at large cares about its board of directors, etc., etc., the people who run it, the only thing they care about is increasing profits quarter to quarter. That's all they're driven by. And if you get more money for having more people in your prison, guess what? You're going to have more people in your prison every quarter. And you don't care how they get there. Your only motivation is profit. You think people who run these for-profit prisons give a [ __ ] about the prisoners? No. But I don't think our government is slamming people in there just to make money either. I don't feel that. No, not the government. the the Trump is slamming people in there because he needs to appear big and tough and I'm getting hard on crime and getting rid of the the bad people as he calls them or whatever. The people who run those prisons are the ones making the money. They are getting money from the government. You your tax dollars, my tax dollars are going to the government. Then they are going straight into the pockets of the people who imprison people for profit. Where do the people that are bad go then? The murderers, the rapists, the robbers, where do they go? Of course they should go to prison. I'm not, okay, suggesting there aren't people who commit actual crimes. There certainly are. But when you put a for-profit model onto something like a prison, it incentivizes the people running that model to do whatever they can to get more people in the prison. Period. Yes, some of them are going to be legitimately tried and convicted of felonious crimes, 100%. Some of them aren't. And it all comes down to margins. If we can get an extra 10% of people in here on bogus charges or Trump just [ __ ] yanks them off the street and throws them in here, great. Give us more money. They don't care. Y'all are crazy today. And with habius corpus out of the way, guess what? Could be you. Could be me. Could be. That's why you got to go get those guns today. So my question again is, do you think we should have for-profit prisons? I have no idea. I mean, a prison to me is a prison and somebody has to build them and somebody's going to get money off of them, but you don't have to. Yeah. It could just be a part of the government. So, there are no private equity groups that own prison. I don't think we I don't think I don't know the numbers in the United States how many prisons there are, but I happen to know that some people don't even go to prison now because there's no place to put them. Mhm. So they commit big crimes, uh you go before a judge, he says goodbye. Yeah. They're not even going to prison because we don't have places to put them. Even the way the prisons are run, when you go into one of these for-profit prisons, there there's a system set up where you have to have money in the prison to be able to do anything. And that money comes from outside. Your friends, your family, whatever, can put money on a discretionary account. You then have to use that money, for example, to make a phone call where it's like $5 a minute on a phone call to talk to somebody else. Chad, you haven't been in prison. This is all been reported on ad nauseium. This is everywhere. Just Google it. All of these for-profit prisons are set up not only to pack as many people in as they can, but then to extort the people that are in the prison for as much money as they can get out of them for just standard [ __ ] toothbrushes, phone calls, uh, clothing. You have to buy that [ __ ] while you're Well, it used to be. And there's also like slave labor within these prisons. They use them to create goods to sell and they pay them next to nothing. Well, there should have been no question whether you're going to prison or not for starters. So, well, how will we know without habius corpus? How will we know without due process? I don't know. We will see. All right. Well, do you want me to throw up this picture that you sent me, Mom? As if you want to. This is our our final Yeah, if you want to. Yeah. Are you throwing it up now? Yeah. This is something you sent me about about my mother. Yeah. Is what I think I remember most about her. Um, and I can't believe it was 15 15 years ago she passed. And in fact, it was like two weeks from today almost that she went into a nursing home and the nursing home lady said at that time uh she's either going to, you know, pull through here or die. She said most people uh once they're placed in nursing home can die within two weeks and she passed within two weeks. But I remember the day the last time I saw her in there in the nursing home and she said I she loved me. I said, "I love you." And we hugged and then I took my steps outside the door and started to walk away because your dad was already in the car. He had already said goodbye to her. He had bought her brand new TV, in fact, the night before. Anyway, he was sitting in the car waiting and I something told me, "Stop. Go back." I took 10 steps back. I counted them. I looked back in at her and I said, "Hey, I love you." And she gave me the thumbs up. And then I left. And then I never saw her again. Then we got the phone call 10 days later. But what I also wanted to say about her, she was very pretty. And those jeans of hers are strong and hard in our family. They go through Haley. They go through my grandbabies. I think my grandbabies look a lot like her. So that's what I wanted to say. Georgia, you didn't say that I got the pretty jean. Um, you got him from my father. You have my father's hands and I think you've got my dad's nose maybe. Okay, thanks. Um, well, that wraps up our show this week. It was kind of a kindler, gentler show without dad screaming all the time. Wonder why. Yeah. Um, thank you everyone for joining us. We will be back next week again. If you have any questions or anything, send them to in a one minute or shorter video format to the necessary conversation [email protected]. I go through all of them. Uh, thanks to all the new people who have found this show through Tik Tok and Instagram. We're glad to have you with us. And as we say every time on the show, no matter our differences, we must remember we are a family and our relationship, I believe, Mom, is stronger than your relationship with Donald Trump. Would you agree with that? Well, of course it is. Of course it is. We made some progress here today. say that. Why would you think I love Donald Trump more than I love you two? That's insane. I think dad does. I think dad Trump does not. Oh my god. I mean, he constantly tells us that we're going to die and we're waste of skin. He doesn't say that about Trump. No, I can't believe you even said that. Please believe it. Anyways, before we go, despite all of our political differences, Mom, I do love you. Happy Mother's Day. Thank you for giving birth to me and raising me for the first 18 years of my life. Haley, I love you. Happy Mother's Day to you. A mom of three children, all now moving into young adulthood, fleeing the nest. I hope you can be uh okay with that as you move into the next phase of motherhood. Haley and Chen, I love you. Thanks for making me Thanks for making me a mama. You make yourself a mama. It wasn't our choice. Wait for the empty nest, Haley. It's no fun. Wait till you have to leave. Well, you've left Roman. You cried. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, it's bad. Willow will Yeah. Uh I don't like to think about it. We love leaving Roman was hard, but you know, I like we I know that they're going to be okay. I know that they'll make it, but it doesn't make it any easier to walk away. It was we left Chad at a college that when we left the campus there were bars bars behind the armed guard with a gun. I cried all the way from LA all the way back to the stewardist on the airplane. Are you okay? Yeah, it's bad. Well, Chad, I love you. Mom, I love you. Happy Mother's Day. Thank you for being my mom. My honor.