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Wait, look at my shirt. Jesus, what is going on in my shirt? I look like What? Look, Chad, what the hell? [laughter] Okay, there we go. I'm ready. >> Welcome to the necessary conversation. This is our midweek edition. It's going to be just me and my mom. Today, we are going to be discussing Trump's appearance on 60 Minutes. He said a lot of things that a lot of people are very scared by, laughed at, thought he was a [ __ ] about, etc. One of which we discussed in our last Sunday episode about a guy that he pardoned. So, we're going to watch some clips from that. Mom, you also have a clip that you want to show, which I believe is Candace Owens on her Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory stuff. Right. >> Right. And I I have a few other things. So, don't don't What do I want to say when you say I got to be looking at the screen? I always look at the screen, but I have a few things on my iPad that I do want to bring up that I have to look down to find them. So, >> okay. Now, all of that said, first before we get into any of that, we have to talk about the blue wave. >> What do you think? >> Democrats won every election they were in, including two big high-profile governor's races. Uh, Mumani is now the mayor of New York. And here in California, which I voted on this, uh, Prop 50, which allows Gavin Newsome basically to redraw the district so that there there will be five new Democratic Congress people coming from our state. Um, it was I've never been to an election like this. It was literally one question. It was one thing you could vote on on the ballot. You clicked yes or no and you walked out and it had record turnout for that for a prop. >> That doesn't scare me. This blue wave doesn't scare me. >> Here's what scares me. >> Okay. >> Um like the this is something I have on my iPad, so I have to read it and look down, so don't get on me. The Jay Jones victory to be the Virginia's AG is the most frightening outcome of that whole night to me. Why? He's the one He is the one that said that he would um >> let's see, how did he state it? He wanted to kill his political opponents and their children. That was his text that he would kill his political opponents and their children. >> That's a little frightening. And he won that. >> Dad should love him. >> Well, dad's not here. I don't love him. I don't like that. >> I don't like that. The blue wave doesn't scare me. You know why? >> Give the blue wave some time. We'll see what happens in New York. We'll see. >> You don't think that like and they didn't these Democrats didn't just win, they crushed their Republican opponents. These were blowout victories, margins that that we have not seen. Huh. >> Uh the New York mayor, he didn't win by crushing numbers. >> I'm talking about those two governors. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. >> Um you don't see this as like very clearly Democrats, the leftleaning part of this country is coming out to rebuke Trump. No, I think it shows they're kind of uh they're not using their brains when they're voting here. And we'll see where this takes us. We will see. >> But just the numbers, the turnout, you don't think is in any way important that that many people showed up to essentially vote against Donald Trump? >> I don't think it was against Donald Trump. It was just for to vote Democrats. And I do think the uh the shutdown had a lot to do with it. >> Of course. >> Yes. Of course. So the Democrats are propelling this whole thing. If they would open our government, we could get back to the way our government should be run. >> Uhhuh. Well, I take it as a landslide victory. That means people are willing to mobilize. People are going to get out and vote. And the thing that surprised me most about it, honestly, is that the the elections didn't seem to be tampered with. I'm pretty convinced Trump is trying to fix the election, but he didn't do it in any of these cases, which I find pretty interesting. So maybe he's not capable without Elon Musk's technological know-how. >> Okay, that's your opinion, not mine. >> All right, indeed it is. We were going to be talking about that more this Sunday. I hope dad comes to the show this Sunday. I don't know what his problem is or why he left last week or what the [ __ ] going on with him, but I hope that he does come on to the show this Sunday so that we can talk about these elections. >> Yeah. especially um the New York mayor. They're acting like it was the New York um presidential presidential election. >> But that was a rebuke of Trump. Cuomo is friends with Trump. >> Uh they're not that good of friends. I heard Trump say if I had to vote for one or the other >> Uhhuh. >> you know which way he would vote. I don't think they're that good of friends. >> Okay. Um All right. Well, let's move on now. Trump appeared on 60 Minutes this past uh Sunday. He said a lot of wild [ __ ] that have has people um up in arms. I'm going to play you. I have four clips. They're each about a minute long and we are going to discuss what he said in them. Unless you want to do your Candace Owens things first. You tell me. >> Go ahead. >> Okay. >> You're the producer. Produce away. >> All right. So, we'll do Trump then we'll do your Candace Owens thing. Uh this is Trump talking about ICE raids. Here we go. you campaign. >> First of all, do you believe Trump needs farmers more than anybody? [laughter] >> I don't think that statement was funny. I don't think that was very funny. >> Stupid. How does he need farmers more than anybody? >> Uh to feed our country and to help produce things for our country. I don't think that was funny. >> You took that so funny. That's crazy. Number one, we know that reporter, >> she does not like Trump >> and you could see she was trying so hard to be in the middle there >> to uh bring across as a good interview. >> The this whole interview was a [ __ ] softball. She didn't ask him any hard questions and she let him skate on so much [ __ ] >> and they edited the interview to cut out a temper tantrum he had that did not air. They had to put it on the internet a day later. So, the very thing that he sued them for with um >> cutting Kla Harris's uh video that he had to sue them and he got some kind of settlement and all that [ __ ] >> They did it to him to make him look more favorable. >> I did not see that other thing that you said was on the internet. And I know you always call me I didn't see it. Where would I see that? I watched that whole news. >> I watched that whole interview. >> So did I. But there the interview I think they said was 73 minutes. They aired like 40 minutes of it or something. So there was about half an hour of it that did not make the >> 20ome 28 minutes I think. >> Yeah. Whatever it was. Okay. So you are aware of it in that 28 minutes. He threw a temper tantrum at one point. >> No, I didn't realize that. I wondered why. >> And they cut that out to make him look better. Um the the main thing I want to get to in this little clip that I played though is she asks him, "Do you think Ice is going too far?" you on this very podcast have said that multiple times. You think they are you don't like the tactics they're using. He says >> I'm saying that by the videos that I have seen and he said no I think they have not gone far enough. >> Correct. So he wants to see more of what's happening now and even more extreme versions of it. When I thought through some of that, that one clip where they're breaking the glass uh through the window of the car, um why aren't those people who are sitting in the car just comply? And if they're telling them, "Please get out of the car. Please get out. Please get out." They're like, "Nope, not doing it." So, they have to get in that car to get them some way or not. >> That is not true. We I've shown you these clips time and time again where the person is talking to whoever the ICE officer through their window. They're complying as much as they can and the ICE officers because they're just aggressive [ __ ] pieces of [ __ ] who have power trips smash the window. Yank them out anyway cuz they can. I played you that clip of that 16-year-old girl screaming at her mom being thrown to the ground. Trump is saying that's not far enough. You agree with him on that? >> I did. when you first showed me that, I said, "That's not right." You are correct. >> Um, and he said it needs to go even further to get them out of here. But do you remember too, if the parents are illegal and they can leave, so can the kids, so can the child. They don't have to be separated. They don't have to stay. >> I don't I'm not Mom. >> What? That is a 16-year-old child watching her mother >> be tackled and handcuffed by federal agents while they were on the way to school. >> Yeah, I told you I don't like the way that it's going down. I don't like it. >> Okay. And Trump is saying it's not going far enough. He wants to see more of this and worse versions of it. Are do you support that? >> No, I don't. I don't like it. >> Okay. So, you're against Trump? >> I'm not against Trump. I'm against the way that he is getting the illegals and getting them out of here. It's getting physical. Very >> That's one of his main things that he's doing right now. It's one of the biggest pieces of his administrative policy is having these horribly violent ICE agents beating the [ __ ] out of people. They're detaining US citizens. And he's saying it's not going far enough. They're shooting that priest in the head with pepper bowls. It's not going far enough. You're disagreeing with Donald Trump >> in regard to how the illegals are taken out. Yes, I am. >> Okay. And you would also say, are you getting a lot of text messages or something? What's going on? >> I'm not looking. Am I? I'm not looking. >> You're blowing up. >> I have a busy day today, but I am not looking. My eyes are on you. Wherever. >> Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm just saying that you're disagreeing with Trump. You've admitted that. And you're disagreeing with him on one of the cornerstone pieces of his current administration. One of their biggest strategies. >> One of his big strategies, which I did agree with, is shutting the border down. It is shut. It's shut. No one can come back. >> And that was admitted in that 60 Minutes thing. You've done that. You've shut the border. So why are you now tackling uh women? I just saw a video this morning of them going into a daycare and yanking a woman out of it while kids are screaming. >> But Did that lady I mean that that shouldn't be done in front of little kids. I don't agree with that. So there's part of this I don't agree with. But whoever they were taking out of there, what did she do wrong? Did she just come into our country the wrong way? Has she been here several years and never got a green card, never got citizenship? Why? Why? That's the answers I would like to know. But [laughter] the the thing that you keep like retreating from is you will acknowledge that how he's doing this and the tactics ISIS is using are bad. You acknowledge that, right? >> Yeah. I don't like him. >> Okay. And you've acknowledged he has closed the border, right? >> Yes. Yes. >> So why does he need to border is closed? I like it. I love it. >> That that's fine. So why does he need >> Because that border was open for that many years, Chad. We've got people in here that should not be here, >> right? But do you think that what Trump is saying is we need to go further in terms of violence against these people and in some cases against US citizens? >> Yeah, I don't like it. No. >> Okay. >> Disagreeing with Trump. >> Fantastic. And that's okay. You can still be MAGA. You can still wear the hats and the cologne and the tennis shoes and read his Bibles and eat his steaks and go to his defunct uh colleges. But you you have admitted that you disagree with him on one of the primary foundational pillars of his administration, which is how he's doing this anti-migration. >> Primary it was the illegals will leave and he's they are leaving. >> Okay, let's move on to our second clip from this. This is where he's talking about pardons. Now, we talked about this last Sunday and you didn't quite understand it. >> I heard this. I heard this. He didn't even know who the guy was, so he said. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. So, there's two main pieces of this. One, you constantly are talking about Joe Biden's pardons should all be invalidated because he used an autopin because he didn't sign. He didn't even know who those people were that he was pardon. >> Right. >> Trump now on camera in a nationally televised interview said this guy that he pardoned, he doesn't even know who he is. >> I know. When I heard that, Dad and I were watching um the interview. When he said that, I turned to your father. I said, "What did he just say? I did say that." >> Okay. >> I don't understand that. >> So, do you believe that all of his pardons should be invalidated just like you think Joe Biden should because he doesn't know who he's pardoning just like Joe Biden didn't? >> He didn't use the auto pin. But I do think that guy's was only like what four months or something. >> Four months. The the length of sentence is irrelevant. So, do you think all people who have four month sentences should just not have to go to jail? >> No. No. >> But it was a very light sentence. So, maybe he thought that maybe he didn't know the guy. >> You're not hearing the other part of this. That guy >> helped Donald Trump make $2 billion on cryptocurrency, >> right? >> You don't think that had something to do with it? >> Probably. But he I probably So that's illegal. >> It did. It did throw me for a loop when I heard him say, "I don't even know who that is." >> Yes, he Do you believe that? Do you think he doesn't know who this guy is? >> Uh, yeah, I do believe that. Maybe that he doesn't know who that is. >> So then why did he pardon him? >> I have no idea. You'll have to ask Donald. >> You think he's just randomly do? They asked him and he lied to everyone. He of course he knows who this is. That guy made him $2 billion. Well, he said he didn't know who he was. >> That's a lie. >> Okay. >> Do you think Donald Trump lies ever? >> They all lie. We've talked about this. This is a big lies >> straight to your face. And you can tell why it's a lie. He already has worked it up. He knows what he's going to say. He's prepared for this question because she's like, "Why did you pardon him?" He goes, "Are you ready for this?" I don't even know who he is. He has Why would he say, "Are you ready for this?" >> He's already worked it up. And in his mind, it's a crazy answer. He knows that. He knows that this is going to sound insane. So, he's like, "Are you ready for this?" >> Why wouldn't he have said like the sentence was only four months? I didn't think it was a big deal. So, I pardoned him. >> He didn't say that. You tell me why he didn't say it. >> That's what your father said. Your father said, >> "But that even that logic is insane because again, I'll point you to should everybody who has a four-month sentence be immediately pardoned?" >> No. No. >> Okay. So that doesn't matter. The length of the time of the sentence weird is meaningless. >> You got me. That was that was weird in that interview. >> I'm not trying to get you. I'm showing you what Donald Trump is saying and I'm just asking you to think about what could it possibly mean. >> Right. I thought it was odd. I turned to your dad and said he said he didn't even know that guy and he pardoned him. >> Correct. And he's made$2 billion dollars from him. Dad just goes, "Ah, maybe it was the four months." >> So, even dad can't get his head around that one. >> Okay. No, we didn't understand that one. >> Let's move on. Our next clip is about mom Donnie, of course. Congratulations, Mom Donnie. He is the new mayor of New York City as of last night. And this is what Trump had to say about him on Sunday's 60 Minutes. All right. So, two things in there stood out to me. One, he believes he's better looking than Manny. Do you agree with that, Mom? >> Yes, he is. [laughter] Yes. I would pick Trump every time over Mandami. [laughter] >> I'm sorry. [laughter] >> Why do you ask me silly questions like this? >> He said it. I'm not. He unprompted. She said, "What do you think of Mum, Donnie?" His first response was, "I'm better looking than him." Like that. You don't think that that's a crazy person. >> Like a complete egoomaniac. >> I thought he said too, "If I was on the ballot, I would win." >> Didn't he say that in part of that interview? >> Okay. Well, Mandami said uh at at his uh speech where he was uh his victory speech, he said, >> "Donald Trump, I know you're watching." I tried to do it. Avana mean Melania. I know you are watching Donald Trump. He said that during his victory speech and he said, "I have four words for you. Turn the volume up." >> Okay, >> they have no idea what they have unleashed in New York. Time will tell. >> Okay. >> I This is not good. This is It is not socialism. It's communis communism for sure. >> Okay. >> That city will fall. What do you mean? The city will fall. >> That city will fall to Islamic uh Islamic people. It's going to fall. >> What does that mean in your mind when New York City in quotes falls? >> Um let's see. There will the crime will go up. >> Okay. >> The tourists no longer will come there to New York. There will not be anybody in their right mind after January be a tourist in that city with crime. >> Okay. >> With people just let out of jail. Mhm. >> with um there will be people in the streets praying praying to Islam. Um I am very very afraid of my Jewish friends that are there. >> He does not like Jewish He does not like Jewish people. >> Okay. >> He pretends he does. >> I do not think he likes gay people, trans people, all of those different people. >> It's going to be very sad. I think that city will fall. Just give it >> What do you mean fall? >> Like literally um crime rate. >> Um people are going to move out of there. At least a million people will move very quickly. Anybody that has money will move out of that city. Why would they want to give their money to other people that don't work and just say, "Here's my money. Take it over." >> Okay. property people who own property there. >> Now, their their um rent and tenant prices will be frozen. >> Okay, >> that's not fair to people that have earned um a living to buy a nice property and now they can't increase as they need those prices to be raised. They can't do that anymore. >> So, you're on the side of the landlords here >> a little bit. >> Holy [ __ ] >> If they need prices >> Uhhuh. Uh there'll be higher taxes. The people that have money will leave. Uh he will become super filthy rich while that city burns around him to the ground. There will be no police. >> There will be no police to enforce anything. >> But you >> So why would you want to go to that city do to do anything? >> You're saying he's going to become filthy rich while the city burns to the ground. Do you not see that Trump is doing that exact thing? >> No, I do not. are saying the United States is getting stronger with Trump. >> Hang on. We just talked about how he made two billion dollars off of that crypto deal. He has doubled his net worth just in the almost year now. I guess this this week is the year anniversary of the election. So he's been in office almost a year, not quite. >> Uh what is it like 10 monthsish? He has doubled his net worth, adding about $3 billion to it in that time. So obviously he's enriching himself off of this. You would agree with that? >> All presidents do. Yes. >> Not like this. >> Okay. >> Um and the country is in shambles. The government is currently shut down >> thanks to the Democrats. >> Doesn't matter. Trump's in office. He's the one in control of No, it doesn't. The Republicans control every branch of the government. This is all on them. >> They do. Oh my gosh. They don't control that vote when you need 60 votes. We need six Democrats. >> I keep saying get rid of the filibuster. They're not doing that. They could if they wanted to. This is all on them. >> You tell me. You tell me any city, any country that has really went communist and survived. Not in the United States is not going to survive. >> Okay. He's not a communist. >> Tell me the difference between socialist and communist. He's a communist, Chad. Okay. What I'm telling you is I'm trying you're you're deflecting as always. I'm trying to get you to understand Trump is doing what you think this guy is going to do. >> He's enriching himself at the cost of America. These videos of of ICE, just the images of these masked guys with guns who do not identify themselves kidnapping people out of daycarees, ripping mothers out of cars, and throwing them down in front of their daughters. Those images are now burned into the American psyche. That is going to leave generational trauma for all of us, for all Americans. He's doing it. He is the one doing this. Trump, >> he's getting the people that should not be here out. I do not believe that's happening in every city like you think it is. >> I don't see it in Oklahoma City right here. >> But you don't see it in Oklahoma City. What? On your way from your house to the horse barn? Like >> No, I go downtown sometimes. There are at least one or two of these videos come out every day >> of somewhere in America, ICE doing some horrible [ __ ] thing to somebody, tackling a person, beating the [ __ ] out of a person. There was a a video that I saw of them beating the [ __ ] out of this guy who was like 73 years old. Um, they're doing these horrible things. And I think in in uh you know history as we kind of move out of this phase of America hopefully in the next 5 to 10 years or whatever it's going to be very similar to Nazis. If you were a member of ICE if you were an ICE agent it's going to be like you were part of the Nazi party. There may have to be some answering for that. I'm not sure. But I'm just saying that the thing you think this guy is going to do to New York Trump is actually doing to America. >> I totally disagreeed SNAP benefits. He's gotten rid of uh the our farmers can't sell [ __ ] soybeans. >> Where are the stats? Why aren't you showing me the stats of all the bad criminals that he has got out of our country and back to where they belong? >> I'm not saying he hasn't done some of that. But there's only so many of those people. And he has imposed these weird quotas. You have to get rid of 2500 people a week. Well, okay. There's not 2500 criminals a week that you can get rid of. So, who who's next? Well, it's going to be the 16-year-old girl's mom. It's going to be this woman who works in a [ __ ] daycare center. It's going to be a 73y old man. >> I disagree. I totally disagree that that is happening that he's just grabbing people off the street the way you and >> Haley >> I've shown you the videos. I showed you one last week. What do you think is happening? These people are not criminals. Do you think a criminal is just like, "Okay, >> then they're released." >> A they're not released. Sometimes they're deported. But even if they're released, why have to go through getting the [ __ ] kicked out of you by ICE, spending five days in a detention center, and then you get released. So, no big deal. >> They have to have a reason for going after these people. And >> they're not white. That's the reason >> if they don't comply. If if the offices is asking them, please get out of the car. Get out of the car. >> I showed you that video. I showed you that video this week on the show. That woman is out of her car. She is talking to an ICE officer calmly and then he just tackles her to the [ __ ] ground and handcuffs her. >> We don't know what she was saying, but yeah, I do remember that video. It's not good. Okay. >> All right. Our final clip. This is Trump talking about um nuclear. Okay. So, there you see him in an open lie. Caught in an open lie. He's saying that Russia and China are testing nuclear weapons. The guy he himself put in charge of our nuclear weapons says, "No, they're not testing nuclear weapons." >> Maybe Trump knows more than that guy. >> So, you think Trump just broke international news in that 60 Minutes interview when he said China and Russia are testing nuclear weapons? >> No, I have no I don't know. I don't know. >> You don't? >> I know she did. She tried to press him on something else that was very confidential and he goes, "Why would I have to tell why would I tell you that?" >> But he he told her this without being pressed at all. >> I know. I guess just making it okay for the United States to be testing, too. >> But do you want the United States to be testing nuclear weapons? Do you know what is required to test a nuclear weapon? >> No, I don't. It's probably very scary. I hate that word. >> Yes. They have to detonate a nuclear warhead. >> And where do they do that? Underground. >> Underground. They do it in the ocean sometimes. I don't I don't even know where we last left off. We haven't done it in a long time. >> I don't even like that word at all. I don't even like it. >> Where does the US test >> because when we start doing that, I mean, it's over. Yeah, I don't like it. >> Uh various sites, most notably Nevada Test Site, historically also in the Pacific proving grounds like the Marshall Islands >> have to go underground, right? Um I think >> Yeah, I think >> I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know why he even said that. I don't know. >> Yeah, they do it underground. Um so why do you think he wants to do this? >> To be prepared, I guess that if somebody's going to launch one at us, >> we got to launch one back, I guess. >> But you don't need to test these weapons to do that. We have more nuclear weapons than anybody on the planet. >> I know. That's what he said. we can launch them at any time if we need to or whatever. Hopefully that it obviously never comes to that. But testing them is just like a thing that he can put in the news like we're testing nuclear weapons again. >> Well, maybe it's a strategy. Maybe it's a strategy against those big countries that want to take us over. >> But he's using a lie that China and Russia are testing nuclear weapons to justify him doing it. That lie you saw in this very thing. The guy that he himself put in charge of nuclear weapons for this country said that's a [ __ ] lie. He's lying. >> That we'll have to research that one. I don't know. I like I said, I don't like that word. It scares me. It scares me a lot. >> So, that was my last clip. So, you're scared of what he's saying about nuclear weapons. >> You don't agree with him on how ICE is going. You're at the very least confused as to why he pardoned this guy that made him $2 billion who he said he doesn't even know who he is. >> Yes. >> You can't quite make the connection that it's exactly what you are saying Joe Biden did. >> Pardoning people without knowing who they are. >> He didn't even he didn't even use a pin though. He did the auto pin. So, [laughter] >> do you think Trump Do you think Trump has ever used an auto pin? uh not to sign big things like that. I don't think >> um Donald Trump slammed your Bible times, >> but he has used it. He has used it. This says >> how many times >> Trump admits to using autopin after declaring Biden's This is a thing from March 18th. >> I I don't know how many [ __ ] times. I can't >> not many. I read once that he did do it like five or six times. >> So now it's about the volume of uh of the use of autoen. All right. It's you. Every time you bring up something to try and defend Trump and then I debunk it and say, "No, this is actually how it is." You just move the goalposts. You're like, "No, no, no, but okay. Well, yes, he does use the auto pen." Joe Biden didn't even know who he was pardoning. Trump says on 60 Minutes, "I don't know who I was pardoning." Well, Joe Biden was using an autopin. Trump uses an auto pen. Well, Joe Biden uses the autopin more than Trump. You understand how that logically is crazy? >> Not really. Joe Biden didn't even know where he was. Okay, show my clip. Let's talk about that. >> This is your clip. This is >> I forgot my diddy. I'll do it at the end. >> Okay, this is Candace Owens talking about um Epstein and Charlie Kirk >> and Charlie Kirk and what he said about Epstein, which I do believe. >> Oh, we'll see. I I mean, let's watch this clip, then I'll say what I'm going to say about Candace. [laughter] >> I was telling the truth even about Jeffrey Epstein. Take a listen. Epstein with his little friend Galain and Galain's father, Robert Maxwell, who was obviously a spy of the Israeli intelligence agencies, that there was something else going on here. Epstein was not some sort of whiz kid hedge fund manager. Epstein was playing a part. Epstein was a larer. Epstein was cast for a specific role and he played it really well. the sweatpants and the Harvard jacket, the kind of disheveled hair, looking as if he was so smart and above the clouds that he was doing advanced mathematic equations on the back of napkins. But if you actually go into some of the videos of people that met with Epstein at the time, they said he was awfully unimpressive when it came to finance and markets and economics. And it's nothing new that if you're in the intel agencies, you want to try and get as much blackmail on powerful people as possible. Easy, not hard. And this is no longer just speculation. First of all, the evidence that shows that Epstein was a creation of either MSAD, Israeli intelligence, American intelligence, Saudi intelligence, or maybe he was just a hired gun. Maybe he was just a guy that countries would go to and park a couple hundred million bucks and say, "Hey, can you get one of the members of the royal family with a 13-year-old so we can get them to do what we want to do?" Members of Congress are actively being blackmailed. The Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis. Jeffrey Epstein was not a financeier. He was not a hedge fund manager. Jeffrey Epstein was a key player in a multi-deade blackmail operation against the most powerful people on the planet. >> I believe all of that. I totally believe that. >> I I believe it as well. I do think he was a pedophile and all that also, but I I've been watching like what for whatever reason Candace Owen's Charlie Kirk videos are like getting into my feed. She I just watched one the other day of her talking about how uh there were 12 cell phone signals there on the day of the assassination that were Israeli cell phones like had the accounts had been set up in Israel and they were there and she's like I don't know if these are exchange students but like who were these people we don't know and there was some plane that came into Utah on that day or something that was had like Egyptian paramilitary people on it >> right >> I don't I hate to like go down conspiracy theory whatevers, but certainly with the Charlie Kirk assassination, there are so many pieces of the story that is being told to us by mainstream media that just don't [ __ ] add up. >> What happened to the assassin? What happened to the roommate? >> We've heard nothing about any of them since it all happened. Why did they pave over the murder scene less than 48 hours later? >> We talked about this, I think, on Sunday. all the videos that are coming out of like I'm an ex army sniper. Here's the weapon that they say he used and I you know look how long it takes me to break it down and there's like tools involved and it won't fit in the background over a minute or something and they did it in 8 seconds or whatever. >> Yeah. >> And now there's multiple photos that are like this photo they showed of the guy in the stairwell isn't even the same guy they arrested. All all this [ __ ] There's like a million things that just don't add up. I do believe though that that Candace Owen like everybody was going, "She's crazy. She's cuckoo. Don't listen to that." I believe she was pretty close to him and knew uh what was going on. I really do. And now some of the stuff she's saying, we're all going, "Ah, interesting." Okay. She's making us think >> for sure. Well, I mean, as I'm watching this, I'm like, here's the deal. If she's correct, if this is some kind of bigger conspiracy that involves Israel in some way or for some reason the the powers that be, whoever it may be, don't want any of this information to come out about Epstein that it was part of some bigger government plan to get blackmail and all these people, whatever the case may be, I think she, you know, if she's right, and I'm not saying she is, but again, there's compelling evidence that at least the story we're being told is not true. Um, is she putting herself in danger? >> I was going to say she better be careful, too. Now, >> for real, if she winds up dead, then we're we got some explaining to do. >> I know. I know. It It's making me think all the things I'm watching. We'll have to bring those up another day. But yeah, whether the microphone exploded, whether the bullet hit the microphone and then didn't go out of his body, they've never found the mic the bullet, >> I don't think. >> Did he have an autopsy or not? I don't know. >> But let let's get to this point that she brings up here about the blackmail ring essentially that that's what Epstein's real purpose was was to get blackmail all these people. >> Uh do you think Trump is among those people that they have blackmail on? might be. It was high up political people. It said, >> "Okay, so what do you think the blackmail is?" >> I don't know. >> That means Trump had to have done something very bad, very illegal. >> I know, but I've always told you this. If he did something bad, the Democrats would have fished that out and thrown that out before an election. >> It never happened. >> But the the converse argument can be made. If he did nothing bad, why doesn't he release the Epstein files? >> Yeah. Because there's people in high positions that say if you do, you're going to be killed maybe. >> Uhhuh. Isn't he in the highest position? You think there are people above him? >> In other countries, maybe that are going to crush him. I don't know. I don't know. >> I don't either. But definitely that Charlie Kirk assassination seems very fishy. Also, the assassination attempt on Trump is, I'm convinced at this point, 100% fake. >> All the new video angles that have come out of it is just like he didn't get shot in the ear. >> His secret servant. Yeah. 100%. It's all fake. >> Well, >> at any rate, and and again, that guy, the the guy who supposedly shot him there, we've heard nothing about that. >> That is true. Yeah. Where are these? >> That was over a year ago. >> Where are these people? Yeah. >> It's very strange. Luigi Manion. I mean, that [ __ ] was like still even now there's more news coming out about it. His trial is coming up. Like, we're we're very invested in that and people are looking into who is this guy? How did he do this? All this kind of [ __ ] >> These two assassins who killed or took two assassination attempts, one successful, one not. In broad daylight in front of massive giant crowds, we know nothing about them. >> I know, very. Luigi Manion who like wore a mask, had a hood over him, who did this in cover of like early morning darkness with no one around. We know everything about that guy. >> Very fishy. Yeah. Yeah. >> I agree. Anyway, thank you, Mom, for joining me for these. We got to do my Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It's kind of just It's not really a diddy, but I read about this today. Tom Brady, have you heard about this? He cloned his dog, Chad. >> He cloned a dog. He had a pup, Judy, that looks just like Lula. And Lula died in in uh 2023. >> So then he cloned that dog. They were pit bulls. And now he has his new one >> and she's walking around and looks just like the other one. >> And I know we discussed this a long time ago when we had Rudy. We should have done this for my last two. And I >> I don't think it's cheap. >> It's 25,000 for a dog. I would have done it. I would have done it in a heartbeat for both of you. [laughter] >> I would have done >> Wait a minute. You would spend $25,000 to clone a dog instead of just like giving a home to a shelter dog or something for way less. >> What I feel now, I would have done it, but >> interesting. >> Probably not the best idea. I need to do a rescue if I do another one. >> Absolutely. >> But he also uh the company it was called Colosso, I guess, >> Biocience. and he owns a part of it, I guess. Or he invests in it or whatever. That's creepy. >> But they said, "No, it's 50,000, not 20." >> Yeah, that's what I thought. Is it in Germany,000 for a dog and for a horse? Start saving up, Chad. 85,000. >> A horse. [laughter] >> 85,000 for my shine. Shine, my shiny Heiny. >> Okay, I'll see what I can do about cloning your horse. >> Okay, >> thank you for joining us everybody. Thank you for joining me, Mom. I love you for doing these midweek episodes. We're the only two people who will [ __ ] do this [ __ ] >> I know. We're the only ones up and alive and kicking on Wednesdays. >> The only ones trying. Yeah. But uh thanks for joining us and we will be back on Sunday to discuss the elections. Dad better [ __ ] be there. Better not >> wimp out on this. >> Okay. >> In the face of devastating defeat to the Republican party. >> I'll prop him up. Okay. >> All right. We will see you on Sunday. Love you, too. >> Bye. All right.