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Hi. Hi everyone. Thanks for joining me today. Um, whoa, whoa, oh [ __ ] Oh, oh, there were some uh comments in here. I think I can get back to this. Let's see if I can do this. Hey, Hannah Blackman, thank you very much. Why does Mary Lou not want to be labeled MAGA? It's almost like she knows they are bad people. Also, get Ashley St. Clair Elon's ex on the pod.
She's been exposing MAGA. I don't know why my mom is so Oh [ __ ] now all these just went away. Well, I'm going to do my best here. Um, I don't know why she doesn't want to be called MAGA or or identify as it. She has clearly identified herself as MAGA multiple times on this podcast. Getting Ashley St. Clair. I'm not sure that I have the juice to do that. Um, but she'd be great. I've been, you know, as we all have been watching her go on the various podcasts and YouTube channels and stuff.
She's an interesting figure for sure. The Wetzels G98 idea. If Marylu claims Trump is just blinking when he falls asleep, have everyone close their eyes for 17 seconds to mimic this. It will feel ridiculous. All right, I might try doing that. That is pretty funny. Wetzels again. If your parents left Maggot tomorrow, what would be the main family problem left over? I don't know. Um I mean that's the biggest one. That's the one that kind of like fuels all their problems, I feel. I don't know. Maybe it would solve all of our problems. Who can say? Let me see if I can switch over here. Okay, here we
go. Um, Hunt and Farm, thank you very much. Happy Father's Day to Mary Lou. Marty Lou, Marty Lou is such a great dad and would definitely sue me if anything I said is false. If I am no sued by next episode, he is clearly admitting it's true. Happy Pride to Marty and Bob. I see what you're doing there. You're flipping the script on my mom, calling her Marty, a male version of her name. I get it. Maybe she will sue you. If she watches this, she might hunt the farm.
Be careful. K. Van Winkle 777, happy 29th birthday, Chad. Thank you. Phosphates in the water are high because the water is pumped in from the Ptoic River where there is wildlife. Also, Maril wanting video for the pew pewing, but not for the fertilizer dump. Exactly. That that fertilizer dump thing that my mom was talking about today was like she said a lot of crazy [ __ ] on this show. That was some of the craziest [ __ ] I've ever heard in my life. That she really believes somebody I guess just brought a truck of fertilizer and dumped it in the [ __ ]
reflecting pool. Bananas. Two ices, one palm. YC. Happy birthday, Chad. Thank you. You look glorious and not a day over 29. Thank you very much. Side of the ham 420. Chad, you cool, but something tells me you don't like spicy food. I don't mind it. Depends on what the spice is, I guess. Um, yeah, I don't mind it. I the I cook like a um this meal that I call the grl. It's basically that's like a joke name for this kind of vegetable stew that I make.
And I load that [ __ ] up with cumin, black pepper, all that kind of stuff. I don't mind spicy food. The one from none. I can't believe she went on record saying, sorry, saying it's not okay for a cop to shoot at a car. Not sure if she backpedalled a little bit. I mean, I think the the thing we were talking about today, the story we're talking about today, like they killed a baby, which is is just [ __ ] obviously soul crushing. And I think that that is there's no um way to justify that. Even for somebody who's like so far into
maggot, there's no way to justify killing a baby, I guess, unless you're looking at like Sandy Hook or something cuz they kind of did that. Well, this isn't the time to talk about gun reform. Um, but I think that the because the baby was involved and was killed, I think my mom is like, you know, she kind of has to take the stance that like this was bad what they did, which means cops shouldn't shoot into cars, even though she said the exact opposite thing when all the the Renee Good story was breaking. The Wetszel's G98 G9K, sorry. Chad, why did you go from
material atheist to whatever you are now? If you had to label yourself now, what would it be? If I had to label myself now, I don't even know. Just a guy walking around trying to do weird [ __ ] I guess. I don't know. I don't I don't have like a a formal belief system, I guess. I don't know that a label would be attached to it. I'm curious about the fundamental nature of reality specifically where consciousness is involved or where it intersects with whatever we believe reality to be. Um, I don't think anybody has the answers exactly, but I think a lot of people are doing some interesting
[ __ ] trying to get those answers or get closer to them. Why did I go from a material atheist to whatever I am now? Really, strangely, it was like material science that got me to this place. There's a lot of like very recent um work being done in in quantum theory and quantum science especially with like entanglement and stuff that effectively points us in the direction that spacetime does not actually exist. And so once you get to that point and you're like whoa this is crazy like a bunch of these highle theoretical scientists are essentially saying that this [ __ ] is not
real. And so it kind of leads you down a path of of wondering like why I guess and I just read a lot about it. And then I started doing some some weird meditations and stuff and having some of my own weird consciousness experiences. And uh it just seems there are so many um recorded instances, events, experiences that people, human beings have had throughout history that just simply cannot be explained by material science. like literally not capable of explaining it. The most basic of which is the human conscious experience like what does a strawberry taste like?
Tell me that scientifically that is an internal conscious experience that we all experience differently etc etc or even dreams like we spend a third of our lives asleep in these these other realms of consciousness and then we wake up and material science is like well that was nothing that was just your brain firing [ __ ] off trying to make sense of the day and it's like I don't know about that bro it just seems like anything that material science can't completely describe it uh throws it by the wayside and says well that's outside the models So, it can't be real or can't be important. And
I just stopped believing that. Um, when you look at these things on a kind of basic level, especially dreams, like I said, or out-of- body experiences or near-death experiences or any of these things that people have been recording having these experiences since the dawn of the written word, um, it just seems like there's a lot that science doesn't cover. And material atheism to me is kind of a it's a byproduct of a full adherence to material science. And I just don't have that anymore. I think there's, like I said, a lot of reality, a lot of the fundamental experience of being a human being or anything on this
planet, being an object on this planet that just cannot be described yet by science. Cider report. Um, if you can't get Kyle from Secular Talk on, definitely talk to Jovin Bradley. He would be incredible. All right, look into that. Um, it's Arroinu. You had two things wrong. We're paying Iran 300 billion plus Walmart makes 500 billion a year. What did I say? My apologies if I got those numbers wrong. I didn't know how much Walmart makes, but I thought I did say 300 billion. Oh, maybe I said 300 million. If I did, my apologies. I meant 300 billion. Obviously, 300 million is like, who gives a [ __ ] at this point,
right? That's like half of Donald Trump's [ __ ] ballroom. Hunt and farm. Chad, can you please start asking Maryl from a time for a timeline when he deflects and says, "We'll just have to wait and see." Oh, Hunting Farm still doing the the opposite pronoun there for my mom. Thank you very much. Um, can I please start asking her for a timeline? Okay, I I can certainly do that. The Wetzels G9K, what is a belief both you both of you changed in the last 5 years?
I'm not sure who both of you is. Do you mean me and my mom or me and my sister? Um, for me, I think it's probably all along those same kind of things I was talking about kind of metaphysical beliefs. I I don't know if it was five years. It was about seven years ago when I was going through like the worst parts of cancer treatment and I had my first sleep paralysis experience and like kind of half awake in my bed just saw a room full of these kind of demonic creatures staring at me and I was like, whoa, who are you? And
that kind of started leading me down the path to research sleep paralysis and blah blah blah blah blah. And it definitely, like I said, it changed my uh belief or understanding about what I again this is just what I believe, you know. Um and I don't even know that it's it's belief. It's more like curiosity that there I just am pretty convinced at this point that there are things operating here in reality that we don't know anything about or very little about. and certainly have not given given it um any credible scientific research where human consciousness is concerned where you know astral projection entities [ __ ] like that. So I
think for me that's that's something that has changed in roughly five years. Um for my sister or my mom, I don't know. Nicholas Chapus, I think 5296. Name of today's episode. One step forward, four steps back. I know my mom is is like kind of backsliding a little bit, but you know, I still think overall we've made a lot of progress. And as I've said before, I don't think that it's it's going to all happen like at once and oh, we finally got her. I think this is just kind of um the nature of the beast. You know, we got to keep at it and we have to allow
her these backslides a little bit. If where we're going ultimately is where I hope we're going and where I think we're going, then you know, this is just part of the the progress, part of the journey. The one from none. Can you ask Mary Lou what comes out first? the rest of the files or the Egene Carroll video that obsolescence that obsolescence Trump for his crimes.
I'm not sure what that means. Um that obsolescence trump for his crimes. I'm not sure what that exactly means. I think you're asking the rest of the files or the Eugene Carol Carroll video that exonerates maybe Trump for his crimes or something. I'm not exactly sure what you're asking here, but yes, I I mean I personally think, by the way, if what you're talking about is an EG Carol video that shows her basically like accepting money from the Democrats, I don't think that video exists. My mom has been lied to by whoever told her that. I do think the rest of the files
are going to come out, just probably not during Trump's presidency. I think as soon as he's out of office, that'll be like one of the big things that whoever the next president does, assuming that president is a um Democrat or at least non-magga Republican. Even a non-Maga Republican though, I bet they won't because the Republican party doesn't want to they don't want to like tarnish themselves and Trump is their party now.
And I think that that attitude will carry over for a minute. If it is another Republican who wins after Trump, I think they will tow the line and they probably won't want to even touch the Epstein files, especially if it's like JD Vance or something. Um, God, I can't imagine he wins though. Steven English 198. Mary Lou is upset Obama subcontractors not paid. Trump has had numerous lawsuits for non-payment to construction workers over his career and had 253 subcontractors not paid at his Taj Mahal in 1990. I that was on the tip of my tongue and then for some reason the conversation diverted. Um but I
remember reading all that too that he's like notorious for not paying people after they do work. Jason Allen 5886 Chad get a pen and paper write this down. If Michelle is a man because she isn't suing, is pervert Hoover guilty because he hasn't sued anybody over the J file. What? Who's Pervert Hoover? Is Pervert Hoover guilty because he hasn't sued anybody over the J file? Oh, I think you're asking about Trump. Is Trump guilty because he hasn't sued over the Epstein files? Yeah. I mean, that's my mom's logic obviously is is pretty flawed in the like, well, if they're saying you're a man and you're
not, you have to sue them. It's also like, what would you sue them for? You know what I mean? I don't know that that that you could claim defamation. I don't know that you could produce damages as a result of that statement. Um, my mom's logic is very flawed in this. I think we can say lace lace 22. Chad, you and Haley have helped me so much. I still have MAGA parents. I feel uh so seen every Sunday here. Thank you very much.
I'm glad that we're helping in whatever capacity we can and I hope you know, however that relationship is working out for you with your parents, I hope it's getting better or look, I'll say this too, we are coming to the end of MAGA. I I do firmly believe that MAGA after Trump dies, which feels like it could be any moment, I think it it just starts to dissipate. I can't imagine another Republican's going to have that hold over people. So, for what it's worth, I think Trump will die soon and you may get your parents back. I hope. Fingers crossed.
Heather Estep V7R. Iran gets 300 billion and with oil sanctions relief expected to make 200 to 300 million monthly. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's I meant to say billion. My apologies. I I now have seen some other comments too. I [ __ ] that up bad. My apologies. I meant billion. Um, Avi Avi Bra 2000, please start incorporating a share screen when having to show your mom stuff. It's very frustrating when she has to keep going on her iPad to fact check and stops listening to the combo. I agree with you. I have no idea how to do that technically. Let me watch some YouTube
videos. I do think we could jijge up the production a little bit where like a share screen is is concerned. I just need to figure out how to do it. Um or get somebody to help me who does. But it's a good idea. Rcast 312. Ducks dying in reflecting pond. What? The ducks are [ __ ] dying in that pond now because they're because the Democrats have put too many chemicals in it. Jesus [ __ ] Christ.
Ashley S 8740. Watch the unseen footage of January 6th. Um, I believe I did watch that and I think I showed some of it to my mom on a Wednesday episode once as well. So, she's seen it. Anytime she's claiming like, well, no, they just let them in there. It's like I've shown her footage of them smashing the windows and especially there's that one footage of the cop that's getting like pressed in the doorway. Um, that to me is like one of the most horrific things. It looks like that dude's about to die, but she's seen it all. It doesn't stick.
Cider import. If you could snap your fingers and make whoever you wanted to be president in 2028, who would it be? Alive or dead? From any era? Who are we talking here? Who are we talking here? I assume you mean from the political the current political landscape right now. I go AOC. Um I go AOC. She seems to me to be like the the least corrupted kind of contemporary politician. Um, and seems to really be like wanting to make the system better still. Even though she's been in it for a minute, she seems seems like what is being presented to me through all the clips I see her, her
social media, what she posts online, the presentation of her as a politician, I think is the best one that we have currently. That's just my two cents. Um, sound off in the comments. Calm down and relax. Chad, isn't it hypocritical of you guys to support MJ? Who is MJ? And not believe survivors just because you like his music. Is that also not cultish? He's literally pictured with Epstein.
Who is this? MJ. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was Epstein. Let me Google this. Let me Google this. Michael Jackson with Epstein. Let's see. Oh, yeah. There's that picture of him there. Michael Jackson's association with Jeffrey Epste came to light through the unsealed things. While Jackson is linked to Epstein, there are no allegations of wrongdoing by Jackson in these documents. Photographic evidence blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Despite the public surrounding their association, official legal files. All right. So, he was in a picture with with um Epstein. Yeah, I'm not down with that. Obviously, that's uh it's bad. If you were with Epstein in any capacity, I think it's probably pretty bad, but um I don't know. You can call it hypocritical if you want. I do like his music. I do think he was foundational in pop culture and music and all of that kind of stuff.
Um and the Survivors stuff, I don't know. It's It's hard to say what to believe. I believed it when it first came out. Then there was enough evidence presented that I was like kind of questioning it. Now I don't really know where I stand. And he's dead. Um, you know, I don't know. Is it cultish? I don't think it's cultish. I don't own any Michael Jackson uh cologne or sneakers. And nor do I say that he could do no wrong if he's in this photo with Epstein and if he did all this terrible [ __ ] Obviously, that's bad. I denounce it. Hunt and Farm. Um, oops. Can you
please start pre-watching Maryl's clips on Wednesdays? It's frustrating when there are easy fact checks that need to be prepared beforehand. also ban AI clips. It's melting M Marty's brain and ours at this point. I would love to be able to pre-watch clips on Wednesdays. Unfortunately, I don't know which clips she wants to play until one minute before we start doing our show because she sends me like 10 or 12 of them. I'm like, "Send me three clips." She sends me way more than three and then I got to kind of like wade through them in the course of the show. But, um, I agree
with the factchecking and the maybe like a share screen or something. I I will try to figure out how to do this. Um, I'll try to figure out how to do that because I agree that I I think that would um it would make it potentially like easier to refute her the like nonsensical things she's saying at like a quicker pace. And I'm curious how that would affect her um her kind of like logical defense mechanisms anytime we're in one of these conversations and she's like deflects or says some [ __ ] lie or what. Not even a lie from her, but like a lie that's been told to
her that she's parenting back. I uh I'll I'll see what I can do about these things. Deer's gone wild. Anyone can be a dad, but it takes someone special to be a daddy. What's the difference? When she said that today, I was like, "What the [ __ ] is she talking about?" I have no idea what is the difference or what she even meant. Giant movie nerd TM Chad, I agree that Disclosure Day is not great. I don't know what the [ __ ] happened to Spielberg. He's the reason I want to direct movies and he makes this [ __ ] He's old. That dude's 80. He's
like Trump's age roughly. I I think very few people, especially people who have been like at the top of a game like that for so long, like nobody's telling him no. Nobody's giving him notes on a script. They're just doing what they want to do. And there was a shot in the movie um that really was indicative to me of like he's lost it as a director.
It's when the this is a minor spoiler. If you haven't seen Disclosure Day and you're planning on it, this is a very minor spoiler. Give me 30 seconds on it. It doesn't really spoil much. Um in fact, I can present this spoiler-free. There is a shot where a character is looking at a a laptop computer screen. The shot starts behind the computer screen. So like if I was the character, the camera would be here pointing this way at me. And you would basically see like here Oops, I just lost my feed.
My camera became unplugged when I did that. Hang on. Getting the camera back online. Hang on. Okay. And I'm back. So, it turns out I cannot move my laptop to illustrate this. My apologies. But basically, the camera would be here shooting this way, and I would have a laptop screen in front of me. And you would see the back of the laptop. The camera would start here. The camera then comes up and goes over the laptop behind this character's head.
It's now upside down. And then it turns right side up and shoots over the shoulder to the laptop screen so that you see what's on the screen. Completely unnecessary. It adds nothing to the presentation of the information on that screen. It It's just in there. It's just like some weird camera move that he's just like, "Yeah, why don't we do this? Have the camera come over and flip around." But it's like meaningless.
It's just something that he can do, you know? Um I don't know. I just think he's like he's directed so many great movies and he spent such an amazing amount of years doing this and really shaping modern cinema. He's one of the most important artists ever in the history of humanity in my opinion. Uh, and it just like he's lost his touch. The movies, it doesn't feel like the movies he's making like he even really cares about them anymore. That's what it felt like to me.
That's what I got out of it, you know. Um, but by all means, if you're if you're curious or you like Spielberg or you like Aliens or you like any of that [ __ ] go check out Disclosure Day. It is worth seeing, I think. Um, just in terms of like it's kind of this weird perfect confluence in my opinion of Stephen Spielberg being like old enough at this point that he's lost it and also a kind of like just shitty lowest con common denominator presentation of the UFO phenomenon. That really was the most disappointing piece of it to me. The level of information that's in the movie
about UFOs and aliens is like you can get it from watching one episode of Joe Rogan. And it didn't go beyond that. In fact, it didn't even meet that threshold. It was just kind of like general dumb [ __ ] that that if you pay attention to UFOs for 10 minutes, you kind of know it all already. And his presentation of it, like it was just bad. It was bad. The treatment of the sci-fi elements were bad. It was just bad. I thought anyway sorry that's what I thought enjoy it if you can bunkertons regarding dreams and reality my cousin passed away recently in the night of her
death I dreamt she was visiting and kept saying she had to go freaky see this is what I'm talking about and plenty of people have experiences like this my mom had an experience like this with um she used to coach high school tennis and on prom night two of the tennis players that were on her team or a bunch of them I think actually got into a car accident and one of them died and appeared to her at the foot of her bed in a dream. So, these kinds of experiences have been happening to human beings since literally the dawn of recorded history.
Some of the the first um accounts of stuff like this, you know, are in religious books of all kinds of [ __ ] like this. I I just think it's it's too ubiquitous for us as a species to just be like, "Ah, [ __ ] it. It's just a dream. [ __ ] you. Meaningless." But then why is it happening all the time? You know, that's crazy though. Um, I'm curious if anybody else in your family had an experience like that. Her hobby studio, thank you very much, Rebecca 3768. Hi from Scotland. Hello. Right back to you. Please watch documentary Homegrown about MAGA people filmed on
front line of insurrection shows violence, horror, and stupidity. Um, Homegrown. Okay. Is that on? What's that on? Is it on Netflix? Is it on Amazon? Can you only get it in Scotland? Mary one. Mary Lou reminds me of Drew Barrymore from the Adam Sandler movie 51st Date. She keeps she resets to factory settings after every sleep cycle. That ain't no [ __ ] And I I mean I will cut my mom some slack. I know she's um she's dealing with a lot right now with my dad, but um yes, she does always seem to kind of like reset back to these these default maga defense
parameters, but we will get her past that. Rest assured, fin ice bear 6781. I don't know. My apologies. The next time Ariel uses a slur, call her out in that moment after talking with Peppermint. I thought she was better, but she needs to directly apologize to the trans community next episode. I'll ask her to ask her to um I'm writing that down. Okay, I will ask her to. I'm curious if she will. I bet she will. I I think like literally she didn't know it was a slur. I don't think she's aware. You know what I mean? Not that that's an excuse or anything. It's
obviously not. I'm just saying I think that's why she said it. But I will um I will certainly ask her facts Chad needed on Wednesday. Chad, can you please point out to Mary Lou that any FBI infiltrations on Jan 6 were Trump's. Biden was not president till January 20th. Yes, I I believe I've told her that multiple times. Doesn't seem to stick. Chris the girl 1013. Chad, if you go to Magic Con, would you do a meet and greet? I if people walk up to me I'm look I don't know if I'm going to go to Magic Con or not. It's in Atlanta
November 14th I think or something 11th that it's the first or second weekend in in November. Me and my friend who do our Magic the Gathering channel which is called Soul Ringers. If you like Magic the Gathering we are thinking about going. We're looking into getting an Airbnb or something like that. If we're there yeah just uh find me, walk up. Happy to do whatever. Miracy one. Don Lemon is a fan of the necessary conversation. What? Wow. Hey Don, you call yourself a journalist. Why don't you investigate the disappearance of Robert Colchin? It's been months. That's a very easy investigation. He's in the
living room watching Newsmax. Wow. I didn't know that he was a fan. That's pretty cool. Her hobby studio. Do you know Chat GBT used more water than the global bottled water industry last year? How do you make sure not to get stuck in your ways like Bob and Maryl? Um, I'm not sure exactly what this is asking. So, do I know Chad GBT used more water than global bald water industry last year? I know that yes, that all of the data centers used massive amounts of water. Um, how do you make sure not to get stuck in your ways like Bob and Mary
Lou? Uh, I don't know. I probably am stuck in some ways. I think we all at a certain point get stuck in your ways, but I try to be open-minded about stuff and I'm always trying to do weird consciousness experiments on myself. You know, I I feel like I have been again, at least in the last five to seven years, extremely open-minded and uh have definitely retreated from the idea of hardcore atheism. I would say if anything now, I don't even really know if I'm agnostic.
I feel like there is some weird [ __ ] happening. Again, inexplicable by modern scientific standards. You can call it spiritual if you want. Um, I don't really know what to call it, but I think there's some weird [ __ ] going on here. So, I would say I don't know that I am stuck in my ways, at least in that capacity. Maybe I was wrong about that prior statement. Hey, Dentic or Yes.
Hey, Denetic. Hey, Detic for Gits and Shiggles. Um, I watched an early episode today. Bob Blair, whites are superior and Mary Lou was almost just as hateful. She's made so much progress despite the logic roadblocks. Be proud. Yes, I agree. Um, and I know my dad's influence on her is like I think personally one of the primary things that is keeping her kind of like locked in MAGA and as he's not on the show now, he's not there to kind of like box her in. I think that's very helpful in letting her have these conversations and kind of think a little bit more
about them. Um, and I agree with you. I think since the beginning of the show, she's much less confrontational with me and Haley. And she does sometimes say like, "You guys are teaming up on me or whatever. You're beating up on me." And I think she does still view it in a very adversarial way that it's like me and my sister are on a team and so we've got two people against her one. So we have some kind of like, you know, competitive advantage in these these conversations we're having. I don't see it that way.
Um, but yeah, I think she has progressed quite a long way. And again, there are these backst steps. She's she's in some kind of like pattern now where she's backsliding a little bit. Of course, today, use that slur, but I still think she's better than where she was when we started this show. Jess 113, do you think that your mom's resistance to disavow Trump is partially because she doesn't want to admit you and Haley are right?
No. I I don't think No, I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think it is more about a a relinquishing of a major piece of her identity that has been that way for over a decade now. That's a hard thing for anybody to do at any point in life with any piece of ideology. You know, ask anybody who was like in a hardcore like evangelical Christian cult or something. How long did it take them to be like, "Whoa, this is actually crazy." Or any cult for that matter. I don't think these are easy things to do psychologically for anyone.
Um, and I don't think it has anything to do with her wanting to like or or being unable to view me and Haley as being quote right and her being quote wrong. I think the resistance is really just about a a kind of fundamental human nature thing, which is like how do you how do you drop a significant part of your identity and just be like, well, I don't believe that anymore. You know, I think that's a tough thing to do.
Horde guy. During Biden's administration, Republicans wrote a bill to solve the border issue. Democrats voted in favor, but Trump told Republicans to vote down their own bill so it would be a campaign issue. I [ __ ] remember that. Um, yeah, Trump's a piece of [ __ ] and to him it's all this weird political game, but it seems like that game is is falling apart by the second. I was watching a little bit of news after we shot today with um, you know, JD Vance going to negotiate these deals and they're just all falling apart. It's all falling apart. There was that thing, this
narrowly missed the um, the list today. the Italian prime minister who is also like conservative right-wing, him and her got into this like kind of arguing match online where he was like she was asking she was begging me to take a selfie with her and then she comes back and she's like no dude [ __ ] you that never happened. So even these other countries that are kind of like ideologic or these other leaders, sorry, of these other countries that are kind of ideologically aligned with Trump are now [ __ ] on him. Nobody is doing what he wants. He can't get this deal
signed. Netanyahu is like [ __ ] laughing in his face when he's like, "Stop bombing Lebanon." He's like, "Okay, dude." So, um I feel like he's he has lost a lot of power. All these [ __ ] Republicans in the Senate and in Congress, too, don't like this deal that he's trying to sign because it gives them $300 billion dollars. Let me get that right this time. Um I think he's losing juice. And I I think it's happening like quickly. That UFC might have been the real kind of break point for a lot of people. that dude, that fighter who said Michelle Obama is a
man. That pissed a lot of people off. Um, this reflecting pool thing just seems to be a a like onetoone symbolic reflection of how bad his entire presidency is and how stupid it is and how ineffective it is. And now he's trying to say that it was uh, you know, these leftwing these liberal [ __ ] vandals that are doing this. It's like nobody's we all know it's because you hired [ __ ] to do this work.
I don't know. I think he's in a bad situation personally. Um, where was I? Matt Jackson, WNC. Maryl, count, what about deflection? 13 times. Not good. Seven times. Chad, you're glowing. Thank you. If Bob comes back, we'll do interruption counts again. Thank you very much. We'll see. Um, I talked to him today for Father's Day a little bit. He said he was feeling better. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said.
MGC Chad, please hire me. Love the pod. In the Who is to blame for CK's murder? Oh, Charlie Kirk's murder episode, Bob said he didn't want a black lesbian doctor to take out his appendix. Any people of color on his medical team. Okay. Yes. Okay. Yes. And it's likeh I wish he could come on the show because that exact question is one that I have wanted to ask him. Um if he does come back to the show that will be one of the first ones that I ask him because it's absurd. I think about that quote a lot that he said that from that episode and
I'm just like what about now dad? What about now? She wants spinach. A federal worker here just trying to save endangered species. Um, Trump admin has been hell. I'm public enemy number one. No good people will ever work for the government again. I don't know if that's true. Like I don't know if that's true. I I can see a version of the government at large. I mean like all government agencies and stuff. I can see a version of it post Trump where whoever is in office makes a hardcore push and basically says like look our government got [ __ ] by Trump. It's horribly
corrupt. Everybody in it is inept. We are going to change that. We're doing a massive hiring push. Anybody like if you have expertise in this this this whatever departments we need people in you make a massive push and say like we want to make the United States government the best it's ever been. We are looking for the best and the brightest. We pay well. We have benefits. You know, whatever the the bells and whistles are. But I think that there could be a um, you know, almost like a marketing push by whoever the next administration is to make it like this is a main priority of our
administration is to get people in government positions who are actually good at their jobs and not corrupt and not inept. I think that could work. We'll see. Time will tell. XK-exible. Love the pod and past pods. Thank you very much. I really miss your Nora chatis takes on things. Oh, from the old dudesy days. Do you still think AI is going to take a major turning point in 2027? Any other predictions? Yes, I do.
All things point in that direction. Um, I know everybody feels some type of way about AI. For me personally, AI is simply it's it's how we interact with computers now. And I know a lot of people are like, I'll never use AI. I have news for you. If you're using a cellular telephone or a computer in any capacity, you're using AI. Everybody is. It's it's just like the new operating system for computers effectively. Um I think you're going to see like there's some big benchmark things that are about to happen. Doug Lyman is making a movie right now where it's it's live action
actors, but all of the backgrounds are going to be AI generated. I'm very curious to see what that movie looks like. I don't know if the movie's good. I don't know what the script is or anything, but I'm curious to see what it looks like. Um, there are in every area of the the film or entertainment industry for things like color correction, for things like um any kind of like futing with the image. Now, that's all AI. So, it's again, it's like if you're watching anything on TV that's going to be made from like this year forward, AI will be in it whether you
see it or not. Um, I think 2027 is going to be a massive year for AI in terms of its like acceptance. I think the stigma that it has is either going to have to be overcome or ignored because again, we're all using products whether you like it or not that has AI in it. The amount of money that like Google, Apple, Meta are spending on AI development. If you're using their product, you are supporting that period. And we are all using those products because we have no choice. Um, I think that it will the cost of it will come down, the environmental impact will come down, and
it's just going to be like AI and computers are basically the same thing. That's where we're headed. Does Mary Lou, the boy factory 6, does Maryl consider diapers healthcare? That I don't know. Um, I I know she considers it to be a necessity for sure. I don't know if she considers it healthcare exactly, though. C. Oh, Candace Snap26. Thank you very much. I speak HTML. Join the Discord. There's a locked room just for your family with sharreen, please.
Plus free tech support. Search Discord in your email for a link. I believe I did and I think I emailed I emailed somebody back from necessary conversation about Discord about uh potentially getting on a Zoom and having whoever this person was show me the Discord that was built, but I never received a reply. So, if that was you, look at your email and see if there's a reply in there for me. MCG Chad, please hire me. In the in the King Trump episode a year ago, Haley told your parents to wait a year and see if their healthcare is still as good as it is
today. Does Mary Lou still feel the same doubt? Oh, that's good. King Trump. Hang on, hang on. I'm I Hang on. Hang on. King Trump. Um, episode 2652 through 2814. I am um I don't God I I want to be able to do it for this Wednesday. I don't know if I'm gonna have time, but I want to put together a Wednesday episode that plays clips from our past episodes for my mom and that that are like germanine to what is happening now. Obviously, this is a perfect example. Thank you for dropping that in the chat. Um, let me just do that. There we go. And if
anybody is looking through our old episodes and [ __ ] and you see something that my mom said specifically, I feel like playing clips of my dad at this point is is probably not going to be worth much because he can't be on the show. But if you see clips of things my mom has said, uh, send that to the necessary conversation [email protected] and maybe in the subject line just put old clip or like put time code in it or something like that so that I know that that's what it is. that would be massively helpful because I do want to put together that episode and maybe
that's what the wind Wednesday episodes will kind of become for a minute. Um, just playing her like two or three clips of things she said in the past and then asking her how she feels now about whatever that issue may be. Um, Lwanda Frasier 562, Michelle Obama is an accomplished, highly educated, beautiful black woman. This is what drives MAGA crazy. Michelle has no time for them. I could not agree more. We um I do another podcast called Game of Roses that is about we cover reality TV shows primarily the love shows like um Bachelor Love Island, Love is Blind, etc., etc.
she on her podcast, Michelle Obama, this past week, she was talking about reality TV and just saying like so many of the things that we've said on this podcast for seven years now about how um you know, reality TV gets kind of like relegated to this guilty pleasure trash TV, yet sports are like, "No, if I like the NFL, that's valid." I just I I could not agree with her more on like almost all of her takes that I've ever seen her have on anything. But I just really when she was talking about reality TV, I was like, "Oh, she's a [ __ ] genius." Not
because she's saying the same things I am, by the way, but because she gets it, you know, um, and is very articulate, eloquent, and can like present ideas. She's just like fascinating to me. But I agree with you 100%. It drives MAGA [ __ ] crazy because she's just like, "Fuck this. Take the high road." Vman, like, can you imagine if she My mom is like, "She should sue. Why? So she can be like [ __ ] Trump."
Vman Maryl was visibly upset at the end of the show. I think your parents disdain for Obama has them now pitying Biden if he tries to make Obama look bad. Yeah, it was weird. Um when she was like, "They left poor Biden out there on the stage." I was like, "What the fuck?" She used to wish him dead on a on an episode toep episode basis and now she's like, "Oh god, poor Joe Biden. I can't believe they left him out there." That [ __ ] blew my mind. I'm going to um [ __ ] Where is it? I'm going to turn off the
super chats now. Thank you everybody who has submitted one. I'm going to get through all the rest of them, but I'm going to turn them off. Did I do it properly? And they're off. Okay, I'm going to get through all the rest of these. Um, thank you everybody who has submitted one. Let's go to the next one. The Wetzels G9K. What trait did you get from your parents you dislike in yourself? Jesus. Height.
Thickness. Actually, I don't have any problem with either of those. Um, I don't know. I do tend to be like a little bit of a workaholic. I think I don't know if I inherited that genetically or um, you know, patterned behavior through watching my dad as a kid. I don't know if they like gave that to me, per se, but I do think I could work a little bit less uh, and have like a more well-rounded lifestyle potentially. I don't know if that's an answer.
As as mountain girl. Oh, Arizona mountain girl. Probably today. Maryl was exasperating. Why do we need a video to vindicate the shooter? A child's dead over diapers. Come on, Maryl. That's what I was trying to kind of get at the the point I was trying to make. I guess when I asked her, uh, is there any scenario in which murdering a baby is justified? She said no on this very podcast. then proceeded to defend the shooters. So, I don't know. I I don't like I really thought I remember when the when Ice killed Renee Good, I was like, "This has got to be it. The line's got
to be drawn for them." But they defended that guy, too. And they defended all the lies that Trump said about him going to the hospital and that she was driving the car at him, which he clearly wasn't. We watched the video. They did the exact same thing with Alex Prey when it's abundantly clear he's not reaching for a gun. He's not doing anything except trying to protect that woman that was there protesting with him and they just [ __ ] light him up. And so now, but but also this is like I was saying earlier, Sandy Hook there, like how many of these terrible tragedies have to
happen at every level where it's like innocent people now it's a baby um before they get on board with the fact that like something in our government and our governmental system and our law enforcement system is drastically [ __ ] up and that we all have to be against it or it won't change. I don't know like what it has to be at this point when um you know you're you're hearing these stories. I mean this is a horrific story. A baby. They killed a baby over diapers, you know, and then my mom's like, "Well, they shouldn't have been stealing those diapers." It's like, who
gives a [ __ ] They killed a baby. I don't know. I agree. That was a a tough um conversation to have for me and my sister as well today. Ba girl 26. Chad, have you read the Dungeon Crawler Carl series? Not yet. I thank you. Scabulan would make a great Carl and Princess donut for Halloween. Oh my god. I haven't read it, but I know a lot about it. And I know um Seth Rogan, no, Seth McFarland is doing the live action. He's producing the live action show for Netflix, I believe, of it. But it seems like it's right up my alley. It seems
like it's a that um genre of like person wakes up in a video game or aliens make us play a video game. that that is like a fantasy thing that has been around in anime for a very long time and I know this author just kind of like Americanized it and um I have heard it's very good. MCG Chad, please hire me once again. In the Memorial Day episode 2025, Marylu made a huge deal about 13 soldiers at Abbeby Gate that lost their lives. Yet this year on Memorial Day, zero mention of any soldiers that have died in Trump's war. Interesting.
Yeah, she she definitely has a little bit of a double standard or a um an inclination to kind of like only use the certain stories to illustrate whatever her point at the time is. That's interesting that she didn't bring that up. Good catch. Oh, Candace Snap. I always read this as C and Ace and that is not it. C and Ace is an app. It's Candace Snap 26, I think. Happy 50th birthday, Chad. Thank you very much. I hope you can kick and stretch and kick like Sally Ali. My last name is Snap. So, obviously, I think Haley's super cool with a last name like
Pope or Pop, she now claims it is. Thank you very much. It's been a surreal moment as she turned 50 years old on this planet in this era. MCG Chad, please hire me. I sent you an email titled Producer Research with a bunch more examples and timestamps. Uh, June 1st. Okay, thank you. June 1st. It's entitled producer research. Thank you. That email is um it's hard to get through at this point.
There's a lot of stuff in it and I don't see it all obviously. So, thank you very much for that for reminding me. The pleb think why the think why the Wednesday vid didn't convince Mary Lou is because that guy is no longer GOP. Need to have a never Trump Republican on like Adam Kinzinger. Oh, that's kind of interesting. I wonder if we could get him.
Maybe we could get Mitt Romney. I'll look into Kinzinger. I just don't know if he would come on like I don't know if he would come on. Well, maybe he would. I don't know. I I'll see. I'll see what I can do. Lemonello 75. In my humble opinion, Mary Lou will continue to be MAGO while she's around Bob regardless of Newsmax's diet. She was making progress when Bob was unavailable. Bob is still unavailable and she is backsliding a little bit. But I think ultimately I think it's a little bit in protest of us asking her not to watch Newsmax as well. That's like fine,
I won't watch Newsmax, but I have to prove to you that that is meaningless in the grand scheme. I think there's a little little tinge of that in there. Silent Ghost 2021. I dreamt about my dad returning home the night he died. Didn't find out he died till the day after. Prophetic coincidence or something else. This is what I'm saying. Silent ghost. A lot of people have experiences like this. And I just can't I can't imagine it's all meaningless. You know what I mean? I look I got very close to a a full OBBE the other night. I was in a dream and in the dream I was in this
kind of like brutalist um pressed concrete building. There was water all over the floor and I didn't want to step in the water. So I just thought to myself, what if I just kind of like start floating and I did. My I was walking and then my body just kind of went like this and I just floated down the hallway without my feet touching the ground. As that was happening, I became aware that obviously it was a dream.
Logically that makes no sense. I was like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm dreaming." As soon as I became aware that I was dreaming, I could feel my body vibrating. I could hear a loud like which I have read are kind of the final stages right before you disconnect and get out of your body. And I think for a split second I even saw my bedroom um in a kind of like astral projection way and then I woke up. So I don't think that I got the full experience, but I'm getting so [ __ ] close. Uh but yeah, this this dream that you had, you know, is it a
dream? What the [ __ ] even is a dream? It's like when you're in a dream, your the emotional experiences you're having are just as real, if not in some cases more real than in your waking life. Like when you wake up from a dream that has had like a drastic emotional impact, that emotion can stick with you for all through the day, sometimes a couple. So does that mean that emotion is completely invalid that you are feeling like literally experiencing it? You have to just write that off. Ah, [ __ ] it. It was a dream, so it's meaningless. It makes no sense to me if the feeling is
the exact same or or potentially like I said even more engaged than than you would have in your waking life. Um I just don't think dreams are for me at this point they are not that easily dismissible as like meaningless. Levo 26, thank you very much. Silent ghost back in the chat. AI is ruining the environment and economy. Yeah, I mean I'm not saying that it's like great right now, but that's all technologies are that way. remember when uh the industrial revolution happened and pollution was everywhere and now we don't give a [ __ ] about it cuz we all drive cars and have laptop computers and
phones and you know blah blah blah. I think AI is a it's a technology that is currently in its infancy. It is the in terms of its environmental and economic impact. It is the worst it will ever be right now. I think it will get better. Um, I know it's a big boogeyman for a lot of people, but I just don't I'm like, what's the point of of um fearing it like it's it is happening and you can be against it certainly ideologically you can be against it. You can be against the companies that make it. All of that is is fine. Like everybody's is
down to have whatever stance they want to have. It's all valid. But I do think where it's headed is it will be ubiquitous in every device we own and operate. And I don't think there's any getting around that. Laval 26, make Mary Lou do a political placement test. I've had that suggestion in a couple of other emails, too. Maybe we could do that on a Wednesday episode.
Bunkerton's regarding my cousin passing. I'm the only one. The weirdest part is that the dream turned lucid and I kept her there for a bit to say bye, then she left. This is what I'm saying. There's in the um at least in all the [ __ ] that I've read about astral projection, there's kind of like a I don't know how to describe this. A lot of the phrasing of it in some of the stuff that I've read is like mind awake, body asleep. And and that gets to like a kind of lucid dreaming phase where your body is complete like out like your body
is just like so relaxed but your brain is aware of of itself. You know, it's not like you're in a regular dream you don't know you're dreaming. But when you're in a lucid dream, you do. And so it's like you have your conscious mind there, but you're also dealing with this kind of weird dream world that is like obviously not the physical world that we live in. And so, um, that's fascinating, um, that you were able to go lucid and keep her there for a minute. Maybe it was her. I mean, look, there's another piece of this that again, like I was saying, like what brought I'm sorry,
this one turned into like a weird metaphysical conversation, but um, the thing that really brought me to all this initially was reading about stuff with quantum entanglement and how like two particles can have can share the exact same information across space and time and the transfer of that information is instantaneous. And so if that's the case and and you know whatever you want to say subatomic particles are, are they physical matter? Are they particles? Are they waves? Are they vibrations? I don't know. There there's arguments for all of those, I guess. But if we are existing in some kind of a world that is
fundamentally manufactured off the vibration of these subatomic particles or the reflection of them, if you will, a holographic universe, which is a term that has been thrown around a lot. If it is that, like doesn't it potentially stand to reason that whatever these particles are that are responsible for or perhaps even creating consciousness that they could exist in multiple places and times simultaneously. And so if somebody in quotes dies, if time isn't real, neither is death. Neither is anything that is measured by time.
Neither is life for that matter, you know. And so when you're dreaming of somebody who has died, it's possible that like they're not dead. That that that that's just them. That's always been them. And for a moment, they inhabited this physical body that is constrained by what we perceive time to be because that's what this experience is. And then you start going down, at least for me, a series of other rabbit holes. That's like well if consciousness is unencumbered by time but we are in this physical environment is this physical environment something like a video game where we have been given consciousness has been given constraint
uh for what purpose I don't know I think that's kind of an argument of first cause type thing that we may never know but it feels to me correct to say that time does not exist space does not exist except in this environment and this environment seems potentially artificial to me that's a long way of saying I'm glad you had to have a couple more minutes with your uh cousin. MCG Chad, please hire me. Oh, and happy birthday, Chad. Thank you very much.
Hunting Farm, thank you very much. I've been joking about the Marty Lou thing all live, but seriously, please address the insane transphobia. If not, it's disrespectful to the entire community and guests like Peppermint. This isn't a difference of opinion. Your mom is being a bigot. I agree with you and I will in our Wednesday episode ask her to apologize. We'll see what she says. I can't force her to do anything, but I will ask her. Truffton, ask Maryl next show. If Michelle not suing means she's a man, then Trump not suing means he's a pedophile, right? He hasn't sued anyone for calling pedophile. I'll I'll throw
that on here, too. Um, okay. What am I looking at here? Ask her to apologize. And I will also put on there, um, does Trump not suing mean he's guilty in J files. All right, I'll know what that means. Good points. The Wetszel's G9K, what are your thoughts on when Bob will return? I don't know. Um, like I said, I talked to him today for Father's Day. He seemed to think he was feeling better, getting better, etc. But I I don't know. I can't be sure about that.
It's the uh the unpredictability of life unfortunately. Teleport me out of here. Thank you very much. Rachel Zorzy 3565. Hey Chad, wanted to say this is the combo I wish I could have with my parents. Thank you for doing the work. I really think Maryl is on her way. Thank you very much for indulging the conversation. Um I wish you could have it with your parents too. And you can.
You may have to start out slow or or maybe you don't. I don't know. Everybody's situation is different. Do what do what is best for you obviously. But if you want to have that conversation with them, you know, it never hurts to give it a try. And if it goes bad, you don't ever have to do it again. But if it goes good or if you think you're making progress, you know, maybe it'll it'll help your situation.
Um, fa fet fedener 1945. I'm so sorry. I don't know how to pronounce the name. The transphobia coming from Louu. I'm so mad. I agree. I when she said it I was just like Jesus [ __ ] Christ. But again I think it's a she doesn't understand that that term was a slur. Um I think but I will ask her about it on Monday and see if we can get that apology. Jeremy Beagle Y1H. If Michelle Obama is a man because she won't sue us. Trump AOMO.
If Michelle Obama is a man because she won't sue us. Trump a chomo because he ain't suing those who say he is. Trump a chomo. I'm sorry, Jeremy Beagle. If Michelle Obama is a man because she won't sue us. Trump a chomo because he ain't suing those who say he is. I'm not sure what a chomo is. I don't know about this one. Jeremy go.
I'm sorry. I can't put this one together. I wish my sister was here. She'd know what this means. Silent goes 2021. Happy birthday, Chad. Don't look day over 29. Thank you very much. Katie Rue 9034. Why does Mary Lou's doorbell ring every video? Is it Bob's way to interrupt now? They have just like an automatic thing when somebody comes up to the front door and that that sound goes off. It's so [ __ ] annoying. I don't know how to turn it off. I don't think they know how to turn it off. It could be deliveries. It could be I don't know anybody walking up to the front
door, but it is very annoying. I agree. Amelia Bedilia 3813. How does it feel to have the pod gaining so much more traction? I feel like Obama is going to be a guest one day speaking it into existence law. If we have either Obama on this um podcast, I I don't know if I'd be able to do that. Honestly, I think I would not be able to speak. I would be um that would be a hard one to do for me. I would just be so like [ __ ] that would blow my mind in a very good way obviously but I don't know I don't
know that I'm equipped to actually do that podcast. Um but no to see it gaining traction is cool obviously like I when we started this thing it was audio only for about a year then we started recording our Zooms with like just our shitty webcams. Then I kind of jijged it up a little bit and started making clips and stuff and I think all that helped. But yeah, it's it's very interesting to see um how it resonates with people. And I get DMs all the time from people that are in a similar situation and they say it's cathartic to see this conversation happening with
another family that's like theirs. I also get DMs that are like death threats and I'm part of the problem and or I'm I am the problem, you know, all those kind of things, too. So, it's it's just interesting to see the reaction to it. Um certainly, but no, I'm happy that it's it's helping some people. I certainly feel like those messages to me are the most important ones and um I I like to see it. You know, I'm happy to help if I can.
Mac Papa 9, my dad turns 50 this September. A bit of context. I'm pushing 30 and have two kids. Damn, two kids. 30. Well, that's babies having babies. Happy birthday to your dad in September. Happy birthday to you and your two kids, whenever those birthdays may be as well. Phil Meyer, 2367, fertilizer is hard to get. How much is needed for the refuction pool to create the algae?
Exactly. That's what me and my sister were saying. It It's a I don't know how many thousandgalon million gallon [ __ ] pool and uh they got a like you would have to have semi-truckss full of fertilizer backing into that [ __ ] all night long in my opinion. I don't know anything about algae and fertilizer and all that [ __ ] but that's what it seems like. Silent Ghost 2021. While debating Dean, a MAGA woman said she'd prefer a president who creeps on women, Trump, since he's attracted to women rather than a gay person.
Wait, what? Now, while debating Dean, I I'm assuming you're talking about Dean Withers, a MAGA woman said she'd prefer a president who creeps on women like Trump since he's attracted to women rather than a gay person. That's insane. It's I mean that's it's [ __ ] crazy, but that's kind of what they're trying to do with um James Tal Rico because it looks like he's gaining a lot of traction in Texas, but the opposition that the Republicans are putting out is basically like, well, he's a [ __ ] soy boy vegan who even knows what his girlfriend looks like. I remember that was a thing for a minute.
And it's like these weird attacks on like what he eats and who his girlfriend is. And it's this strange identity [ __ ] that's like we want a strong alpha male. Meanwhile, you've got Pete Hegsth like struggling to a chin up and [ __ ] It ain't good. That's [ __ ] wild though. I mean, but that's where it's at. C. Clausen. Have your parents watch batch shows or your pod?
No. I tried to get them to watch a season of Bachelor once. It was season 26 because that was the first season where I had secretly coached a player to infiltrate the show and I was like I tried to appeal to my dad and be like, "Dad, remember how you used to coach um all of our sports and stuff as a little kid? Well, Bachelor is like the sport that I'm most interested in now and I coached my first player. You got to watch this season." They didn't watch it.
Her hobby studio has our last question of the day. Any Love Island faves currently? I mean, sad to say, Soul was my favorite. Bye-bye. She got eliminated too early. I also like Shawn. Um, but now I would say Annayia is probably my favorite. I think she is a good player, an interesting player, and I think she's going to have a very good victimization edit coming and then maybe pivot to a bombshell in a big a story kind of way.
We will see shortly though, 45 minutes from now, there's a new Love Island airing. If any of you out there are watching the show and you want to watch it along with me and my co-host of my other show, Game of Roses, it is on our Patreon, patreon.com/gameof of roses. But that's it. Thank you everybody for joining me tonight and uh thank you for all these questions, all the super chats. I sincerely appreciate it all so much. Thank you for these suggestions.
I'm going to look up these clips. I am going to ask my mom to apologize on Wednesday and I'm going to ask her about um Trump not suing about the Jeffrey Epstein files. Does that mean he's not guilty? With reference to what she said about Michelle Obama needing to sue for being called a man. So, thank you very much for all of this stuff. I will see you on Wednesday, unless you're coming over to our Patreon to watch Love Island with me tonight. Until then, goodbye.